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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #90 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:13 PM »
Paano yung "Pron"??   HD quality ba dapat??? hehehehe....either its a good thing or a bad thing...  ;D ;D

Seriously....good strategy to..... ;)

oo nga pala sir munskie, i forgot about that. pag may hd ang pron, i'll go hd, so far i have 6 in my library.  ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #91 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:18 PM »
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hehe..ya I use to download also in these torrent sites. I usually download mostly tv series like cheers, remington steele etc. But the video quality is not that good. I dont know what im doing wrong. Divx nga or avi ata mga download ko. I also don't want to wait for the download, Mine is the 999 plan ;D.. It takes so long kasi ;D..Do you have the 2mb above plan, 2 to 3 thou a month? Man 400mb in 2 hrs is fast. I think before mine took couple of days for a 400mb >:(.Thats why I gave up on downloading..Some chick flick, comedies I like in hidef ;D

i have a 1mbps dsl (bayantel), reliable naman. i think for a dvd quality rip to be good in divx, it should atleast be 700 mb, there are sources that are smaller than that and i think its unwatchable, one think good about pch, it upscales too, not as good as the stand alone upscalers but it improves divx/avi files. kaya oks narin, tv series mga 300-400 mb per episode.

tingnan natin sa shootout 2 i'll bring some divx kung uubra sa taste nyo yung quality.

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #92 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:20 PM »

Q. What will be the big difference of a PS3 to PCH/NMT in terms of displaying hi-def PQ (720p)? I know that PS3 is orig or should I say the real hi-def, the PCH is downloaded, compressed? DTS/DD only? (I can live with that). But when you watch it over your flats or PJ, will you easily distinguish which is which?

Natabunan na yung golden question ko.  ;D 

sir Munskie, care to comment since you have both?  ;)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #93 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:22 PM »

One more thing that I will be happy about is (hopefully) magkaron ng EB of some sort for file sharing, and I'm pretty sure sooner or later, baka meron na sa Greenhills ng downloads for a fee.

Now this made me think twice.  :-\

actually sir froot, meron na, will just tell you when we meet, i think alam ma na rin ito. charges are very reasonable. quality very good.  :o

what i do narin, is just leave my computer to do the deed, at night, ika nga "while you were sleeping", so mga 8 hours din yon, so 2 to 3 nights isang movie.  ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #94 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:32 PM »
Natabunan na yung golden question ko.  ;D 

sir Munskie, care to comment since you have both?  ;)

Actually I havent compared a BD title to its MKV counterpart.   But with my (I suppose) trained eye in two years of seeing highdef, I can say that 720p and 1080p MKVs really do look good  (syempre depende pa rin sa title).

I have watched Ironman in 1080p MKV, and all I can say, there are scenes that are really tact sharp.     :o :o :o  Now Im trying to convince myself if I would still buy the Ironman BD......


Can I distinguish which is which??   Only a blind a/b test will tell.   Which I havent really tried.   
« Last Edit: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:33 PM by Munskie »

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #95 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:35 PM »
actually sir froot, meron na, will just tell you when we meet, i think alam ma na rin ito. charges are very reasonable. quality very good.  :o

Really? PM na lang please sir.  ;)

Actually I havent compared a BD title to its MKV counterpart.   But with my (I suppose) trained eye in two years of seeing highdef, I can say that 720p and 1080p MKVs really do look good  (syempre depende pa rin sa title).

I have watched Ironman in 1080p MKV, and all I can say, there are scenes that are really tact sharp.     :o :o :o  Now Im trying to convince myself if I would still buy the Ironman BD......


Can I distinguish which is which??   Only a blind a/b test will tell.   Which I havent really tried.   


Thank you po.  ;)  I guess the only way for me to answer my own question is to audition it at my HT.  ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #96 on: Sep 21, 2008 at 08:14 AM »
Shoot-out II will be a good opportunity to have an objective response to froot's dilemma. I have a BD copy of Batman Begins, 2 SD copies and a PCH version. We will do blind test of video on:

1. BD player, 1080p
2. PCH, upscaled to 1080p at the player
3. Oppo 980, upscaled to 1080p at the player
4. Pio 696, sending 480i to video processor and outputting 1080p

Iiinaslao is helping me do the set-up. We plan to have 3 different scenes of "Batman Begins." Maybe a bright scene, a dark scene and an action scene. Each person will give a grade per player per scene, and then we will get the average.

After this, we will do several BD movies, comparing Dolby TruHD or DTS-MA vs ordinary DD/DTS.

I think the shoot-out will be very interesting.  ;D ;D
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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #97 on: Sep 21, 2008 at 09:01 AM »
Shoot-out II will be a good opportunity to have an objective response to froot's dilemma. I have a BD copy of Batman Begins, 2 SD copies and a PCH version. We will do blind test of video on:

1. BD player, 1080p
2. PCH, upscaled to 1080p at the player
3. Oppo 980, upscaled to 1080p at the player
4. Pio 696, sending 480i to video processor and outputting 1080p

Iiinaslao is helping me do the set-up. We plan to have 3 different scenes of "Batman Begins." Maybe a bright scene, a dark scene and an action scene. Each person will give a grade per player per scene, and then we will get the average.

After this, we will do several BD movies, comparing Dolby TruHD or DTS-MA vs ordinary DD/DTS.

I think the shoot-out will be very interesting.  ;D ;D

ayos ito!  ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #98 on: Sep 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM »
Shoot-out II will be a good opportunity to have an objective response to froot's dilemma. I have a BD copy of Batman Begins, 2 SD copies and a PCH version. We will do blind test of video on:

1. BD player, 1080p
2. PCH, upscaled to 1080p at the player
3. Oppo 980, upscaled to 1080p at the player
4. Pio 696, sending 480i to video processor and outputting 1080p

Iiinaslao is helping me do the set-up. We plan to have 3 different scenes of "Batman Begins." Maybe a bright scene, a dark scene and an action scene. Each person will give a grade per player per scene, and then we will get the average.

After this, we will do several BD movies, comparing Dolby TruHD or DTS-MA vs ordinary DD/DTS.

I think the shoot-out will be very interesting.  ;D ;D

Can't wait na for this! I feel the shoot out will really be helpful in making me decide how to move forward. ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #99 on: Sep 27, 2008 at 10:51 PM »
Upscaling Players  4 (19%)
Blu-Ray  7 (33.3%)
NMT's  7 (33.3%)
others/HTPC  3 (14.3%)


I guess this poll will change after the 2nd Shoot-Out which happened today. Let's see.

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #100 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 12:23 AM »
Upscaling Players  4 (19%)
Blu-Ray  7 (33.3%)
NMT's  7 (33.3%)
others/HTPC  3 (14.3%)


I guess this poll will change after the 2nd Shoot-Out which happened today. Let's see.

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #101 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 12:29 AM »
brader tahimik na tong thead ah ;D

Mismo mo brad. Mukhang nagulanta talaga ang lahat sa nagyari.  ;D  Sana makabili na kayo ni DTS-HD para ma try ko na sa bahay.  ;)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #102 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 12:36 AM »
Mismo mo brad. Mukhang nagulanta talaga ang lahat sa nagyari.  ;D  Sana makabili na kayo ni DTS-HD para ma try ko na sa bahay.  ;)

organize pa lang ng group buy si brader Esi,hopefully bukas may linaw na kung ilan kami.
sa sta rosa mafia mukahg wala pang kulam eh, busy sa mga tubo ;D
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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #103 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 01:08 AM »
Know what brader, you have a point. ;) Maybe, I should go the same way...PCH muna, tutal may dvd player pa naman ako eh for viewing dvd's. :) At least as PCH, makakaexperience na ako ng high def. ;D

We have the same case here Froot. My gears are old na. 2001 model yung AVR ko...as I can recall, and my speakers were purchased 2003. If I go Blu or PS3, this will only encourage me to upgrade to a better AVR. And I certainly know for a fact, that I do not have the budget for a full upgrade. :(

Question: If you will get the PCH first, what capacity will you go for, 500GB or 1TB? ::)

brader stickfighter sama ka sa group buy ?
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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #104 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 09:26 AM »
care to share the results of the shootout? :)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #105 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 09:58 AM »
care to share the results of the shootout? :)

andito po. click na lang. :)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #106 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 10:23 AM »
brader stickfighter sama ka sa group buy ?


bili na bili na bili na bili na!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #107 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 10:30 AM »
bili na bili na bili na bili na!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Bro PCH or Egreat? ??? :D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #108 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 11:17 AM »
dadami ang benta ng mga AV stores dahil sa shootout  ;D huwag lang sana major overhaul ng gears masyado mahal yun  ;)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #109 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM »
Bro PCH or Egreat? ??? :D

great -e pare ;D
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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #110 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM »
Bro PCH or Egreat? ??? :D

sir ricky,

i think mas mahal kasi ng kaunti yung egreat but it has better features than popcorn (harware wise) but the firmware is basically the same. kaya it performs the same in terms of playing the files. sa harware naman the main difference is may e-sata na ang connection ng egreat while usb lang ang popcorn, super bilis kasi file transfer ng e-sata. but question is do you need it. and i think the egreat has higher memory 512mb vs 256mb for popcorn, what this means is this helps in terms of stutter free playing of files. so i think egreat tops popcorn here. ;D

ako kasi i have a popcorn, and have stuttering issue early on and i thought its got to do with the encode of the mkv files and internal memory of popcorn which some says is too small. but after the august 2008 firmware release all the stuttering is gone, even with files that stutters before does not anymore. so question is does the higher amount of memory really needed.  :)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #111 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM »
sir ricky,

i think mas mahal kasi ng kaunti yung egreat but it has better features than popcorn (harware wise) but the firmware is basically the same. kaya it performs the same in terms of playing the files. sa harware naman the main difference is may e-sata na ang connection ng egreat while usb lang ang popcorn, super bilis kasi file transfer ng e-sata. but question is do you need it. and i think the egreat has higher memory 512mb vs 256mb for popcorn, what this means is this helps in terms of stutter free playing of files. so i think egreat tops popcorn here. ;D

ako kasi i have a popcorn, and have stuttering issue early on and i thought its got to do with the encode of the mkv files and internal memory of popcorn which some says is too small. but after the august 2008 firmware release all the stuttering is gone, even with files that stutters before does not anymore. so question is does the higher amount of memory really needed.  :)

Bro baka bago ako makabili eh 768 na memory ;D Thanks again

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #112 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM »
Bro baka bago ako makabili eh 768 na memory ;D Thanks again

pag walang 1.5k ang difference between pch and egreat, get the egreat nalang, better tech is always good, future proofing din yan.  ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #113 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 03:36 PM »
My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #114 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 03:41 PM »
My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA

Psst yung ae2000 on sale na pare para bagay na sa NMT to play downloaded files :o ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #115 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 03:56 PM »
My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA

i think walang issue, since 720p compatible naman ang pj mo, pero as the saying goes, pinaka maganda is to test the pch sa pj mo sir froot.


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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #116 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 04:08 PM »
My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA

I think I'd be a little bit worried (para may kumontra  ;D).   The NMT will output in either 720p, 1080p, pseudo-720p and quasi-1080p, but the PJ will have to downscale that to 480p.   Will there be any PQ degradation?

Pero the 80-peso BeeDees in St Francis that play in regular DVD players are outputted at 480p anyways.   :)


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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #117 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 04:17 PM »
I think I'd be a little bit worried (para may kumontra  ;D).   The NMT will output in either 720p, 1080p, pseudo-720p and quasi-1080p, but the PJ will have to downscale that to 480p.   Will there be any PQ degradation?

Pero the 80-peso BeeDees in St Francis that play in regular DVD players are outputted at 480p anyways.   :)



I agree. If the pj is 480p, it might not be worth it to get NMT.
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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #118 on: Oct 01, 2008 at 01:05 AM »
I agree. If the pj is 480p, it might not be worth it to get NMT.

Buti na lang!..... ;D  Since my desktop is scheduled for an upgrade, then I might just settle for an HTPC.




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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #119 on: Oct 01, 2008 at 01:50 AM »
HTPC
my reasons:
1. you can buy a bluray ROM for 6k (or less) / combo drive (hddvd/bluray is under 10k)
2. with the right motherboard or video card you can output 1080p through HDMI
3. you can easily run HD files and SD files without any hiccup, given that you know how to use it .. ;D
4. you can easily play HD downloads (.mkv)
5. upgradeable ..

and ofcourse, me being familiar with the hardware .. its easy for me to tinker with it .. :)
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