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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #60 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 12:30 AM »
Whoa! ??? I was planning to get the Oppo first...why do you recommend the PCH to be my first purchase? :)

Depende sa priorites siguro bro, kasi ako the reason I posted this poll is to experience HD given my existing gears. Mine is also PCH first, then OPPO (maybe) next. Based on the sample HD's I got from my HDD.

I also would like to get PS3 why not, pero madaming balakid dahil nga sa nabanggit ko na existing gears ko. If by chance I be able to buy a Plasma soon, then the PS3 might be the next step, sarap din kasi maglaro minsan, especially the MGS, had the chance to own the PS1 & 2 kasi.  ;)



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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #61 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 12:42 AM »

And we're on the transition period already fr. SD to hi-def. So, IMO buying a dvd upscaler doesn't make a drastic change in your setup esp. if you have an HD capable display.

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #62 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 12:52 AM »
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Q. What will be the big difference of a PS3 to PCH/NMT in terms of displaying hi-def PQ (720p)? I know that PS3 is orig or should I say the real hi-def, the PCH is downloaded, compressed? DTS/DD only? (I can live with that). But when you watch it over your flats or PJ, will you easily distinguish which is which?

This is a good question froot, I think those guys here who have a 720p native PJ, PCH, PS3, a particular movie title in both BD(1080p) and 720p encoded MKV can answer this. Anyone?

Sagutin ko sana kaso wala pa yung PCH ko eh. ;D Tho' I did a similar test on my xbox360 using a combo disc. 3 tests: upscaled dvd, 720p hd dvd & 1080i upscaled hd dvd.
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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #63 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 01:10 AM »
Depende sa priorites siguro bro, kasi ako the reason I posted this poll is to experience HD given my existing gears. Mine is also PCH first, then OPPO (maybe) next. Based on the sample HD's I got from my HDD.

I also would like to get PS3 why not, pero madaming balakid dahil nga sa nabanggit ko na existing gears ko. If by chance I be able to buy a Plasma soon, then the PS3 might be the next step, sarap din kasi maglaro minsan, especially the MGS, had the chance to own the PS1 & 2 kasi.  ;)

Know what brader, you have a point. ;) Maybe, I should go the same way...PCH muna, tutal may dvd player pa naman ako eh for viewing dvd's. :) At least as PCH, makakaexperience na ako ng high def. ;D

We have the same case here Froot. My gears are old na. 2001 model yung AVR ko...as I can recall, and my speakers were purchased 2003. If I go Blu or PS3, this will only encourage me to upgrade to a better AVR. And I certainly know for a fact, that I do not have the budget for a full upgrade. :(

Question: If you will get the PCH first, what capacity will you go for, 500GB or 1TB? ::)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #64 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 01:18 AM »
And we're on the transition period already fr. SD to hi-def. So, IMO buying a dvd upscaler doesn't make a drastic change in your setup esp. if you have an HD capable display.

Not really bro, I would still patronize SD's, most especially the LE's,CE's,Giftsets etc (baliw ako dito eh). The reason I posted PCH as my priority is having the HDD I got full of HD's, sa PC ko pa lang ang linaw na talaga, what more sa 720p ko na PJ. But who know's, you maybe right, after I got the PCH, that might be the transition period for me.  ;)

My wifey is already having a gut feeling of my plan since he often see's me selling lotsa DVD's lately, and will disposing more in the coming days. Oh di ba?....parang transition na nga.  ;D Ang hirap mag umpisa ulit pag nakapag umpisa ka na. Parang lahat gustong mag back to zero.  :-\

Yup, that question (hopefully) be my final question here. Kasi maganda rin yung napapag-usapan. I've seen some who bought upscalers but later sold it, not satisfied daw. Kasi if you were to ask me, and I've told you this before, I'm happy with my current video set-up, some DVD's really give excellent PQ, just the beauty of having a 90" screen in front of you makes me grin already.  :P



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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #65 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 01:28 AM »
Know what brader, you have a point. ;) Maybe, I should go the same way...PCH muna, tutal may dvd player pa naman ako eh for viewing dvd's. :) At least as PCH, makakaexperience na ako ng high def. ;D

We have the same case here Froot. My gears are old na. 2001 model yung AVR ko...as I can recall, and my speakers were purchased 2003. If I go Blu or PS3, this will only encourage me to upgrade to a better AVR. And I certainly know for a fact, that I do not have the budget for a full upgrade. :(

Question: If you will get the PCH first, what capacity will you go for, 500GB or 1TB? ::)

Ikaw nga naka LCD ka na, so pwedeng pwede ka na mag full HD.  :P  What's the size of your LCD? Kasi if it is 42" and lower, you may not be able to get what you are looking for in an upscaler. IOW, as some members say here, it is not a night and day difference. (oh di ba...lalong nakagulo  ;D ).

Already got 500gb, eh nung pinanood ko pa lang yung Victoria Secret Fashion Show nanginig na ako eh.... :o   8)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #66 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 01:37 AM »
Ikaw nga naka LCD ka na, so pwedeng pwede ka na mag full HD.  :P  What's the size of your LCD? Kasi if it is 42" and lower, you may not be able to get what you are looking for in an upscaler. IOW, as some members say here, it is not a night and day difference. (oh di ba...lalong nakagulo  ;D ).

Simpleng tao lang tayo brader... :P 32 inch lang po LCD ko. Maybe there isn't much difference in PQ with an upscaling dvd player. I would believe that there is a significant difference with the PCH... ::)

Already got 500gb, eh nung pinanood ko pa lang yung Victoria Secret Fashion Show nanginig na ako eh.... :o   8)

Whoa! :o So may PCH ka na? :o When did you get it bro? :)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #67 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 01:49 AM »
Already got 500gb, eh nung pinanood ko pa lang yung Victoria Secret Fashion Show nanginig na ako eh.... :o   8)

 ;D

2. If you are a big fan of high def US and UK TV series, high def documentaries (National Geographic, Discovery Channel, History Channel, PBS Nova), not to mention high def porn,

Eh papaano pa sir kung eto pa mapanood nyo?  ;D :D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #68 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 01:51 AM »
;D

Eh papaano pa sir kung eto pa mapanood nyo?  ;D :D

 ;D :D ;D :D Baka mawalan na ng oras si Froot sa pDvd! ;D :D ;D :D

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« Reply #69 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 03:33 AM »
Good morning brothers stick and froot  :D, Since you still have a working dvd player pa naman then its better and more practical to invest first in an mkv player(nmt) or bdp/ps3. The reason why I got my oppo lang is bec I really need a dvd player(hindi dahil gusto ko ng upscaler). Kung Hindi nasira yung old trusted pioneer dvdp ko malamang nmt ang kinuha ko  ;D Kaya nga it all depends on your needs. As for the Bd players medyo mahal pa yung titles and meron next best alternative pa naman which is the nmt. Wink Ngayon ang 15t peso question is anong nmt player ang kukunin nyo? Grin Like i SAID before, kung need nyo talaga ng dvdp then oppo na kunin nyo kasi worth the price talaga pero kung pagkakagastusan lang need nyo eh di try the nmt muna ;D

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« Reply #70 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 05:23 AM »
Good morning brothers stick and froot  :D, Since you still have a working dvd player pa naman then its better and more practical to invest first in an mkv player(nmt) or bdp/ps3. The reason why I got my oppo lang is bec I really need a dvd player(hindi dahil gusto ko ng upscaler). Kung Hindi nasira yung old trusted pioneer dvdp ko malamang nmt ang kinuha ko  ;D Kaya nga it all depends on your needs. As for the Bd players medyo mahal pa yung titles and meron next best alternative pa naman which is the nmt. Wink Ngayon ang 15t peso question is anong nmt player ang kukunin nyo? Grin Like i SAID before, kung need nyo talaga ng dvdp then oppo na kunin nyo kasi worth the price talaga pero kung pagkakagastusan lang need nyo eh di try the nmt muna ;D

Brader Ricky...good morning po! ;D Very good advice...PCH na nga ang mauuna para maka experience na ng high def films. ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #71 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 06:28 AM »
This is a good question froot, I think those guys here who have a 720p native PJ, PCH, PS3, a particular movie title in both BD(1080p) and 720p encoded MKV can answer this. Anyone?

Sagutin ko sana kaso wala pa yung PCH ko eh. ;D Tho' I did a similar test on my xbox360 using a combo disc. 3 tests: upscaled dvd, 720p hd dvd & 1080i upscaled hd dvd.

i have a pch, hddvd and dv600, my lcd is only a 37", playing same material on all three yielded a quality index of:

hda3 - 95%
pch  - 90%
dv600 - 80%

but when viewing animated stuff like cars and shrek, the difference of the three is +/- 2% very little talaga ang pagkakaiba. btw, my lcd is 768 native so my hda3, pch and dv600 are all set to 720p.

now, my lcd is small, what will happen when viewed in a 90"-120" screen, based on my experience in sir mark's ht i would say hddvd and pch (although not same viewing material), my rating will be the same as the above. but its just me.  ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #72 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 06:33 AM »
Simpleng tao lang tayo brader... :P 32 inch lang po LCD ko. Maybe there isn't much difference in PQ with an upscaling dvd player. I would believe that there is a significant difference with the PCH... ::)

Whoa! :o So may PCH ka na? :o When did you get it bro? :)


truth is sir stick, during the first shoot-out although talo and pioneer dv600 sa oppo 980 and the eventual winner oppo 983, the dv 600 perform pretty well. hirap discern which is which, very subtle lang nag difference. now with a 32" baka lalong hindi na makita ang pagkakaiba. my recommendation for you is get the pch, then get a cheaper upscaler for your dvd collection. so 15k for pch then 6k for an upscaler.

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #73 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 08:17 AM »
Good morning brothers stick and froot  :D, Since you still have a working dvd player pa naman then its better and more practical to invest first in an mkv player(nmt) or bdp/ps3. The reason why I got my oppo lang is bec I really need a dvd player(hindi dahil gusto ko ng upscaler). Kung Hindi nasira yung old trusted pioneer dvdp ko malamang nmt ang kinuha ko  ;D Kaya nga it all depends on your needs. As for the Bd players medyo mahal pa yung titles and meron next best alternative pa naman which is the nmt. Wink Ngayon ang 15t peso question is anong nmt player ang kukunin nyo? Grin Like i SAID before, kung need nyo talaga ng dvdp then oppo na kunin nyo kasi worth the price talaga pero kung pagkakagastusan lang need nyo eh di try the nmt muna ;D

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if you like marathon movie watching then PS3 is not recommended. there is however an alternative Panasonic BD-30 selling at a little over than $250 sa  Amazon. Yun nga lang R1 lang sa DVD ang puwede. Most of froots DVD naman is R1 diba  ;)

ako yung binibili ko na BDs is mostly action movies which has very good reviews for PQ & SQ  ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #74 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 08:47 AM »
truth is sir stick, during the first shoot-out although talo and pioneer dv600 sa oppo 980 and the eventual winner oppo 983, the dv 600 perform pretty well. hirap discern which is which, very subtle lang nag difference. now with a 32" baka lalong hindi na makita ang pagkakaiba. my recommendation for you is get the pch, then get a cheaper upscaler for your dvd collection. so 15k for pch then 6k for an upscaler.

Good morning Sir iiinaslao! ;D I would say, I'd still get the Oppo as my upscaling dvd player...coz, I read the thread on the Pio 610 and it's starting to look like the player is not too reliable at all. :( Regarding the PCH, sure na yan... :P

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« Reply #75 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 08:55 AM »
Good morning Sir iiinaslao! ;D I would say, I'd still get the Oppo as my upscaling dvd player...coz, I read the thread on the Pio 610 and it's starting to look like the player is not too reliable at all. :( Regarding the PCH, sure na yan... :P

good to hear, its sad kung may issues ang 610, im using a 600 kasi, and its reliable naman.  ;D
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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #76 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 09:12 AM »
truth is sir stick, during the first shoot-out although talo and pioneer dv600 sa oppo 980 and the eventual winner oppo 983, the dv 600 perform pretty well. hirap discern which is which, very subtle lang nag difference. now with a 32" baka lalong hindi na makita ang pagkakaiba. my recommendation for you is get the pch, then get a cheaper upscaler for your dvd collection. so 15k for pch then 6k for an upscaler.

Ya this is what I would do also (Stick, froot assure ko ma in love kayo sa pch if you attend the shootout) and Sir Marks audio, its mindblowing..Tulo laway ko sa Celin Dion concert in blu...At the end of this month there is news sony will lower the msrp of the Sony s350 to 299 ata. So possible na ata this player at 220 to 230 dollars or maybe even lower ;D..Don't you wish meron buy a player and 5 free discs ;D..Baka that will be their 4th quarter push.  Kung meron ka extra budget I would also get this s350 or ps3  ;D..One time gastos nalang ;D..then do what Sir Munskie is doing na buying  those great movies na type mo in Blu. Im also doing that na, I haven't bought anything since April-May hehe ;D, I haven't posted in Whats your Lastest HD purchase na for the longest time ;D ;D, more selective na ako, however I still don't have the pch and I'm just rewatching those movies on dvd nalang on my oppo 980 muna until these movies in blu get down to at least 15 dollars for me to justify double dip haha.

After a while nga its getting painful sa pocket ;D..By the end of the year I just see myself buying the following lang ;D, Shawshank redemption, Austin powers collection, the Godfather collection, Ironman, Ronin, JFK and maybe a couple more. Usually they will have some sale coming this holiday season (sana BOGO) so nice to add to your collection. To me worth it if its 10 to 15 dollars.  ;D. Sana mag sale na amazon..Ganda din talaga collecting blu discs, its the best siempre with special features and everything, also nice looking sa rack mo if your a collector.

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #77 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 09:16 AM »
I have owned different types of upscaling dvd players like Pioneer and Oppo. All I can say is - "480p will be always just be 480p no matter how you upscale it". This is why I decided PCH over Oppo 983. 720p rocks!  ;)

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« Reply #78 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM »
And since nasa transition na tayo to HD, my suggestion is to stop purchasing SD DVDs sa mga new releases.      If you dont stop kasi, the more you pad your SD DVD collection, the more you have to justify using upscalers to continously enjoy the collection.  I have stated this suggestion, coz there is already a new option to view your catalog movies into HD (via PCH/torrents). 

May transition na rin sa movie collection.    Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.

In my end, the minute I decided to embrace the HD format:

1.  I stopped buying SD DVDs.
2.  I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.
3.  Bought only worthy Blu-ray titles (good movie/great disc in terms of AQ/PQ)

The arrival of this NMTs/PCH hiked my enthusiasm even more.   Now, all the movies I want, I can view them in 720p/1080p.....and that at the cost of hard disc space, PC use and broadband fee.  ;)

Of course, as Ive stated before, andyan pa rin Blu-ray.   Piling pili na nga lang.  Theres still that part of me who wants to see my collection na meron physical optical disc.   Buti na lang, maliit lang a ng rack ko, pero malaki naman hard disc space ko  ;)

Suggestion lang po....


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« Reply #79 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM »
Plus the fact that mkvs are for FREE, I find it ridiculous to spend a lot on an expensive upscaling dvd player. Besides you still have to spend more to have a good quality dvd. IMO

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« Reply #80 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 10:42 AM »

2.  I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.

Suggestion lang po....

Give me a few more weeks to think about this. But I am definitely considering the matter.  :o   :-\

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« Reply #81 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 02:41 PM »
Not really bro, I would still patronize SD's, most especially the LE's,CE's,Giftsets etc (baliw ako dito eh). The reason I posted PCH as my priority is having the HDD I got full of HD's, sa PC ko pa lang ang linaw na talaga, what more sa 720p ko na PJ. But who know's, you maybe right, after I got the PCH, that might be the transition period for me.  ;)

My wifey is already having a gut feeling of my plan since he often see's me selling lotsa DVD's lately, and will disposing more in the coming days. Oh di ba?....parang transition na nga.  ;D Ang hirap mag umpisa ulit pag nakapag umpisa ka na. Parang lahat gustong mag back to zero.  :-\

Yup, that question (hopefully) be my final question here. Kasi maganda rin yung napapag-usapan. I've seen some who bought upscalers but later sold it, not satisfied daw. Kasi if you were to ask me, and I've told you this before, I'm happy with my current video set-up, some DVD's really give excellent PQ, just the beauty of having a 90" screen in front of you makes me grin already.  :P

Aba aba . . . at nag-order na ;D

Congrats sa PCH bro!

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« Reply #82 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 02:49 PM »
And since nasa transition na tayo to HD, my suggestion is to stop purchasing SD DVDs sa mga new releases.      If you dont stop kasi, the more you pad your SD DVD collection, the more you have to justify using upscalers to continously enjoy the collection.  I have stated this suggestion, coz there is already a new option to view your catalog movies into HD (via PCH/torrents). 

May transition na rin sa movie collection.    Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.

In my end, the minute I decided to embrace the HD format:

1.  I stopped buying SD DVDs.
2.  I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.
3.  Bought only worthy Blu-ray titles (good movie/great disc in terms of AQ/PQ)

The arrival of this NMTs/PCH hiked my enthusiasm even more.   Now, all the movies I want, I can view them in 720p/1080p.....and that at the cost of hard disc space, PC use and broadband fee.  ;)

Of course, as Ive stated before, andyan pa rin Blu-ray.   Piling pili na nga lang.  Theres still that part of me who wants to see my collection na meron physical optical disc.   Buti na lang, maliit lang a ng rack ko, pero malaki naman hard disc space ko  ;)

Suggestion lang po....

Pareho tayo ng thinking marvin . . . I really did stop buying dvds for quite some time now. But yung dvd collections ko parang ayaw ko na ibenta . . . P100 na lang yata ang resale value per disc ngayon. Gawin ko na lang diffuser sa HT rm.

Parang nung time ng vhs to dvd transition kahit marami ang for rent dati, madami pa din ang inamag na lang.

And I think many will jump in already to Hi-def due to the arrival of these NMTs . . . much more when the price gets more affordable.
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« Reply #83 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 03:16 PM »
And since nasa transition na tayo to HD, my suggestion is to stop purchasing SD DVDs sa mga new releases.      If you dont stop kasi, the more you pad your SD DVD collection, the more you have to justify using upscalers to continously enjoy the collection.  I have stated this suggestion, coz there is already a new option to view your catalog movies into HD (via PCH/torrents). 

May transition na rin sa movie collection.    Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.

In my end, the minute I decided to embrace the HD format:

1.  I stopped buying SD DVDs.
2.  I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.
3.  Bought only worthy Blu-ray titles (good movie/great disc in terms of AQ/PQ)

The arrival of this NMTs/PCH hiked my enthusiasm even more.   Now, all the movies I want, I can view them in 720p/1080p.....and that at the cost of hard disc space, PC use and broadband fee.  ;)

Of course, as Ive stated before, andyan pa rin Blu-ray.   Piling pili na nga lang.  Theres still that part of me who wants to see my collection na meron physical optical disc.   Buti na lang, maliit lang a ng rack ko, pero malaki naman hard disc space ko  ;)

Suggestion lang po....



Plus the fact that mkvs are for FREE, I find it ridiculous to spend a lot on an expensive upscaling dvd player. Besides you still have to spend more to have a good quality dvd. IMO

I think dvd is here to stay for a long time and still the choice no matter what, there are just too many title selections. If the pch/torrents have all these movies that are available in dvds,  and ready for download (hidef version) then I also say forget buying an upscaling player also, especially the expensive ones, just buy the pch. Waiting a lot of titles to come out in blu might take forever or one is not even sure it will come out on blu or what is blus future.

To me ok to buy the oppos, toshiba xde500 (some do like this) if one wants to buy a dvd player. Denon 3930, thats another story. I would buy a great dvd player especially if you have a big dvd library. At the prices of dvds right now its just senseless to sell them (just my opinion). Might as well just keep it. I don't have a pch and I dont know what titles are available in the torrents but if they have Ferris buellers day off, pretty in pink, Jaws, Back to the future series, Star wars series 1 to 6, Night at the roxbury, the good the bad and the ugly, Ruthless people, Down and out in beverly hills, Beverly hills cop, Two weeks notice etc. hehe, mga type ko itong movies..then Im almost totally convinced/sold na to go for downloading and get a pch. If majority of films are not yet in the torrents then Im still going for dvd.  Anytime I want to watch these films I will just go to my rack, get it and put it in the player. I don't have to wait na.  ;D..When dvds are phased out na then Oh well ;D..Enjoyed everything while it lasted and they will still work.

Regarding buying dvds pa or selling them to get lets say the bluray copies, sorry to me I don't see any benefit from this for the following reasons.
My reasons are:

1. Dvds are super cheap now. Times are different from couple years ago. You can get warners at 125 ata sa sale to lets say 199. I think the movie jumper hit 175 or 199. Bluray is 22 dollars. If you get these movies sa downloads yes ok yan. But lets say I have a copy of eraser. I bought it ata 375pesos with collateral ata (so it comes out to 187.50 pesos). I want to sell this to finance my Eraser bluray copy which is now 13.95 at amazon. Market value of my eraser dvd if I wanna sell is I think  only down to 100 pesos, maybe 150. I also have lots of vivas that maybe I can sell for 100 to 150 pesos, I need like at least 4 dvd movies to finance my eraser bluray. With a hundred of my cheap dvds I can only get around 20 blurays for it (assuming I don't want to shell out any money) Iba ang usapan if your copies are region 1, collectors maybe, tin copies, limited edition, criterion, gift set etc. They have better value, but if I have those copies Im not wlling to sell them, thats just me tho..I have The rock Criterion, Im not selling it even if I have the blu version. Again thats just me. Another example is JFK, its coming out in blu and dvd I think a month from now. Dvd version is 29.99 and blu is 23 ata in amazon. I like the dvd version bec of the collectibles, features ( I think dvd has a feature wala sa bluray), I want to get both versions bec Im a fan of JFK and this movie hehe..So it gets me ???..


2. Not buying new releases anymore: I also can't justify this because lets take the sample of speed racer. They are selling it here ata at 550 pesos? The blu-ray copy is around 1200 pesos. Risky business 20th anniversary is 475, blu is 937 plus lets say 100 pesos shipping pa..Just a couple of these titles is already how much sa pockets natin versus the dvd copy. Again if we get these sa downloads then justifiable. Parang kasi double the price all the time versus dvd. Imagine maybe in 2 months nga speed racer will maybe be 299 to 375 nalang. In amazon its still 24 bucks. Prices are just too attractive here right now sa pinas for dvds. Eh kung mga jack sparrows pa ;D..

So to me dvd pa rin (worth to buy excellent player), or combination with downloads for the pch, Blu for those who can really afford the discs and just want the best pq and aq, special features etc.

This is just my opinion. :)






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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #84 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 03:57 PM »
actually with the pch or any other nmt, many people forget that it can play other files as well including divx xvid which is full of rips of tv shows and movies (dvd quality) from the torrents too. my take is:

really really good sci-fi / action movie = bluray or hddvd (for the old collectibles) purchase
other sci-fi / action movies               = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)
chick flick and comedies                   = divx/avi download (700mb 4-5hrs download time)
tv series                                        = divx/avi download (400mb 1.5-2 hrs download time)

its been a while that i have purchase any sd dvds (origs or jack sparrow blewreys). as they say, "everythings on the net!"  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #85 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 04:11 PM »
I think dvd is here to stay for a long time and still the choice no matter what, there are just too many title selections. If the pch/torrents have all these movies that are available in dvds,  and ready for download (hidef version) then I also say forget buying an upscaling player also, especially the expensive ones, just buy the pch. Waiting a lot of titles to come out in blu might take forever or one is not even sure it will come out on blu or what is blus future.

To me ok to buy the oppos, toshiba xde500 (some do like this) if one wants to buy a dvd player. Denon 3930, thats another story. I would buy a great dvd player especially if you have a big dvd library. At the prices of dvds right now its just senseless to sell them (just my opinion). Might as well just keep it. I don't have a pch and I dont know what titles are available in the torrents but if they have Ferris buellers day off, pretty in pink, Jaws, Back to the future series, Star wars series 1 to 6, Night at the roxbury, the good the bad and the ugly, Ruthless people, Down and out in beverly hills, Beverly hills cop, Two weeks notice etc. hehe, mga type ko itong movies..then Im almost totally convinced/sold na to go for downloading and get a pch. If majority of films are not yet in the torrents then Im still going for dvd.  Anytime I want to watch these films I will just go to my rack, get it and put it in the player. I don't have to wait na.  ;D..When dvds are phased out na then Oh well ;D..Enjoyed everything while it lasted and they will still work.

Regarding buying dvds pa or selling them to get lets say the bluray copies, sorry to me I don't see any benefit from this for the following reasons.
My reasons are:

1. Dvds are super cheap now. Times are different from couple years ago. You can get warners at 125 ata sa sale to lets say 199. I think the movie jumper hit 175 or 199. Bluray is 22 dollars. If you get these movies sa downloads yes ok yan. But lets say I have a copy of eraser. I bought it ata 375pesos with collateral ata (so it comes out to 187.50 pesos). I want to sell this to finance my Eraser bluray copy which is now 13.95 at amazon. Market value of my eraser dvd if I wanna sell is I think  only down to 100 pesos, maybe 150. I also have lots of vivas that maybe I can sell for 100 to 150 pesos, I need like at least 4 dvd movies to finance my eraser bluray. With a hundred of my cheap dvds I can only get around 20 blurays for it (assuming I don't want to shell out any money) Iba ang usapan if your copies are region 1, collectors maybe, tin copies, limited edition, criterion, gift set etc. They have better value, but if I have those copies Im not wlling to sell them, thats just me tho..I have The rock Criterion, Im not selling it even if I have the blu version. Again thats just me. Another example is JFK, its coming out in blu and dvd I think a month from now. Dvd version is 29.99 and blu is 23 ata in amazon. I like the dvd version bec of the collectibles, features ( I think dvd has a feature wala sa bluray), I want to get both versions bec Im a fan of JFK and this movie hehe..So it gets me ???..




Yeah, I must admit.  What I did two years ago wont be so advisable now.    Back then, that was what Im thinking.   I should sell fast before DVD prices drop down.  I did.  It was actually a hard choice back then, kasi lugi talaga pag nagbenta ng collection, but it was not so bad at all.   I came off with a PS3 because of my DVD disposal plus some HD titles.

Yung natira na DVD sa akin kokonti na lang, so the part in me to buy an upscaling player is no longer prevalent, which is something I was also trying to avoid.  Having a huge collection na diko maiwan iwan.


2. Not buying new releases anymore: I also can't justify this because lets take the sample of speed racer. They are selling it here ata at 550 pesos? The blu-ray copy is around 1200 pesos. Risky business 20th anniversary is 475, blu is 937 plus lets say 100 pesos shipping pa..Just a couple of these titles is already how much sa pockets natin versus the dvd copy. Again if we get these sa downloads then justifiable. Parang kasi double the price all the time versus dvd. Imagine maybe in 2 months nga speed racer will maybe be 299 to 375 nalang. In amazon its still 24 bucks. Prices are just too attractive here right now sa pinas for dvds. Eh kung mga jack sparrows pa ;D..

So to me dvd pa rin (worth to buy excellent player), or combination with downloads for the pch, Blu for those who can really afford the discs and just want the best pq and aq, special features etc.

This is just my opinion. :)
 

It was "no turning back decision for me".   I contemplated back then, if I were to keep my collection (reaching 300) and still buy new releases, medyo mahihirapan ako to embrace highdef.    I was just so engrossed with it that I really have no choice but to leave the DVD format.    

Buti na lang I came to love the PCH.    Even if new releases in DVD goes below the P500 barrier, di na ako nanghihinayang......sa torrents, patience lang in downloading...HD quality video pa.



THats why I posted this....

    Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.

And in my case.  It was a clear cut decision to embrace HD and leave the DVD format (and admittedly sinubukan rin yung mga jack sparrow BD copies, na iniwan na rin dahil sa PCH).  ;D ;D

Kanya kanya strategy talaga...... ;)


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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #86 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 04:22 PM »
actually with the pch or any other nmt, many people forget that it can play other files as well including divx xvid which is full of rips of tv shows and movies (dvd quality) from the torrents too. my take is:

really really good sci-fi / action movie = bluray or hddvd (for the old collectibles) purchase
other sci-fi / action movies               = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)
chick flick and comedies                   = divx/avi download (700mb 4-5hrs download time)
tv series                                        = divx/avi download (400mb 1.5-2 hrs download time)

its been a while that i have purchase any sd dvds (origs or jack sparrow blewreys). as they say, "everythings on the net!"  ;D ;D ;D

Paano yung "Pron"??   HD quality ba dapat??? hehehehe....either its a good thing or a bad thing...  ;D ;D

Seriously....good strategy to..... ;)

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #87 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 04:46 PM »
actually with the pch or any other nmt, many people forget that it can play other files as well including divx xvid which is full of rips of tv shows and movies (dvd quality) from the torrents too. my take is:

really really good sci-fi / action movie = bluray or hddvd (for the old collectibles) purchase
other sci-fi / action movies               = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)
chick flick and comedies                   = divx/avi download (700mb 4-5hrs download time)
tv series                                        = divx/avi download (400mb 1.5-2 hrs download time)

its been a while that i have purchase any sd dvds (origs or jack sparrow blewreys). as they say, "everythings on the net!"  ;D ;D ;D
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hehe..ya I use to download also in these torrent sites. I usually download mostly tv series like cheers, remington steele etc. But the video quality is not that good. I dont know what im doing wrong. Divx nga or avi ata mga download ko. I also don't want to wait for the download, Mine is the 999 plan ;D.. It takes so long kasi ;D..Do you have the 2mb above plan, 2 to 3 thou a month? Man 400mb in 2 hrs is fast. I think before mine took couple of days for a 400mb >:(.Thats why I gave up on downloading..Some chick flick, comedies I like in hidef ;D

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« Reply #88 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 09:13 PM »
@ Moks007,   I think we are in the same boat. My plan to use HD is just an alternative. SD's will still be on my list. As I've said, I'm a sucker for LE's,CE's,Giftsets etc. My buying habit really declined for the past months, the only time I buy SD's (r3) now is when there is a sale. Minsan nga nakakainis pa, during the last Trinoma sale, I had to travel pa almost 30kms just reach the sale, bought a title for 275ph, kinabukasan 199ph na lang.  >:(  ganun ka mura na talaga ngayon. I'm running out of space na rin kasi for my DVD's, kaya had to think of something else, something more economical and convenient.

One more thing that I will be happy about is (hopefully) magkaron ng EB of some sort for file sharing, and I'm pretty sure sooner or later, baka meron na sa Greenhills ng downloads for a fee.

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other sci-fi / action movies = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)

Now this made me think twice.  :-\

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Re: Which Way To Go?
« Reply #89 on: Sep 20, 2008 at 09:32 PM »
Whoa! ??? I was planning to get the Oppo first...why do you recommend the PCH to be my first purchase? :)

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