Topic: Egreat NMTs

[gogo]

Hi Mr. Richie, thanks for your comprehensive reply, will try the external DVD ROM casing, para makamura. I hope i can play all those mkv files dvd-backup.   

[gren]

expect: slow results, as in really slow   i'll try it tomorrow to give you more definite numbers.

i was trying to set up the a-100 to use the tp link, ayaw.  i seriously hate these dongles

sir richie, if i connect a tp-link  usb dongle on the egreat can i transfer file from my pc & or mac? what speed do i expect. am currently using belkin n router. also not going to use it for hd streaming only for file sharing. tia

[eksi]

richie,

na-add ko na thru eSATA yung 1TB studio edition... ayos na ayos... egreat & wd runs well together
i also connected the hd to my pc thru USB... walang sablay din

na-work around ko na pala pano i-delete yung mga movie trailers and other preliminary videos before the main feature of DVDs
salamat uli bro

[jrcrunch]

up for richie and guys from ehome. great aftersales service from them

[gren]

ZOMG, the 1.5TB Seagate is so frigging hot I literally could not hold on to it after leaving it on all night for file transfer (for a DNS 323).  Put it in your NMTs at your own risk

[ESi]

ZOMG, the 1.5TB Seagate is so frigging hot I literally could not hold on to it after leaving it on all night for file transfer (for a DNS 323).  Put it in your NMTs at your own risk

[HD_MOVIES]

ZOMG, the 1.5TB Seagate is so frigging hot I literally could not hold on to it after leaving it on all night for file transfer (for a DNS 323).  Put it in your NMTs at your own risk

mainit talaga bro, yung 3x1.5tb ko ay me kanya-kanyang harddisk cooler.. baka biglang mawala ang 4TB of MKV's ko.. hehe

nung walang fan, idle at 38C-40C; load at 45C-50C
ngayon me fan: idle at 36C-38C; load at 40C-45C

[tetablanco]

hi. the popcorn hour a-110 already has the DTS down-mixing firmware update. i wonder when the m31b will get a similar firmware update. any ideas as to the time frame?

[[joms]]

yeah init din ng 1.5TB ko kahit naka idle lang. im getting a fan for it

[eksi]

hi. the popcorn hour a-110 already has the DTS down-mixing firmware update. i wonder when the m31b will get a similar firmware update. any ideas as to the time frame?

mga bro, what's the additional benefit of DTS down-mixing feature?
does this feature matter, if digitally connected (i.e. coax, optical, hdmi) yung nmt/dvdp to avr?
right know i can have dts surround, dts-es or dts-ma in egreat+avr
i find this feature also in my pioneer dvdp, pero di ko alam what's it for... TIA

[[joms]]

mga bro, what's the additional benefit of DTS down-mixing feature?
does this feature matter, if digitally connected (i.e. coax, optical, hdmi) yung nmt/dvdp to avr?
right know i can have dts surround, dts-es or dts-ma in egreat+avr
i find this feature also in my pioneer dvdp, pero di ko alam what's it for... TIA

Biggest advantage for me on the DTS down-mixing feature is when ill go to tagaytay/baguio/batangas/etc with my family or friends and bring my egreat along to plug-in the local TV. (Im pretty sure that the rooms in hotels outside metro manila (even those in metro manila) don't have an external receiver that can decode DTS)

[eksi]

Biggest advantage for me on the DTS down-mixing feature is when ill go to tagaytay/baguio/batangas/etc with my family or friends and bring my egreat along to plug-in the local TV. (Im pretty sure that the rooms in hotels outside metro manila (even those in metro manila) don't have an external receiver that can decode DTS)

therefore, DTS down-mixing feature does matter only if the analog sound output will be used, nakuha ko ba?

[gren]

DTS down-mixing = DTS internal decode = being able to hear DTS encoded sound via HDMI or RCA without a receiver.  There is NO firmware update for ANY of the NMT's thus far (as of 0818).  We're still waiting for the DTS internal decode update for both our a-110's and egreats.

What 0818 brought for us is DTS-MA/DD-TrueHD passthrough functionality via HDMI 1.3.

therefore, DTS down-mixing feature does matter only if the analog sound output will be used, nakuha ko ba?

[gren]

okay, i'll eat my words here (lol), there is an update for the a-110.  will check out the nov 4 update for the other  nmts too :>

DTS down-mixing = DTS internal decode = being able to hear DTS encoded sound via HDMI or RCA without a receiver.  There is NO firmware update for ANY of the NMT's thus far (as of 0818).  We're still waiting for the DTS internal decode update for both our a-110's and egreats.

What 0818 brought for us is DTS-MA/DD-TrueHD passthrough functionality via HDMI 1.3.

[gren]

RE: Nov 04 Firmware Update

Quoting Egreat:

if they have we will have also (later 2days than them)

[bejiboys]

Awrite.  Thanks Richie for the immediate update.  I agree with Joms re: the typical use-case of DTS downmix.  Will look forward to the updated firmware for the eGreat.

OT:Please PM just in case you will carry the WD HDTV player.  Around 4 guys in the office interested.  Thanks.

[bono vox]

hi gren, same here, interested to wd hdtv player.

[eksi]

DTS down-mixing = DTS internal decode = being able to hear DTS encoded sound via HDMI or RCA without a receiver.  There is NO firmware update for ANY of the NMT's thus far (as of 0818).  We're still waiting for the DTS internal decode update for both our a-110's and egreats.

What 0818 brought for us is DTS-MA/DD-TrueHD passthrough functionality via HDMI 1.3.

thanks Ritchie
i'll wait for firmware update, although not much excited on DTS down-mixing, siguro may iba pang feature upgrades na kasama

[[joms]]

FYI:

Release Date : 04 November 2008 (Release is for Popcornhour. Egreat version will arrive within the week)
Firmware Version : 081023

1. Requires NMT apps 00-17-081023-15-POP-403
2. Playback
- MKV HTTP streaming performance improved
- MKV Chapters support.
- MKV chapter key handling (follows WMP)
- use PREV/NEXT key to switch chapter
- at each chapter,
- pressing PREV once will goto start of that chapter
- pressing PREV twice will goto previous chapter
- pressing PREV twice at 1st chapter will goto previous clip if in playlist
- pressing NEXT once will goto start of next chapter
- pressing NEXT once at last chapter will goto next clip if in playlist
- Fixed ISO playback over USB occasional hang issue
- Fixed some FLAC playback at wrong sampling frequency
- Fixed certain TS substream (mostly teletext) incorrectly detected as DTS
- Fixed certain TS with mixed Hi-Def and standard audio subtracks losing audio
- Audio with new info display and ID3v2 (album art if available)
- ID3 parsing for local (HDD, USB storage) content only
- Press Info key to display
- Added filename and bitrate in video info display.
- RMVB support (requires new myiHome v5.1.0 and above to perform transcoding)
- Fixed certain microDVD SUB file will cause hang
- Fixed thumbnail display issue from WMP servers
- Moved Video Zoom option from "Preferences" to "Audio/Video" page, separating into 2 options
- Video Zoom [Actual Size | Fit To Screen | Crop | Full Screen]
- TV Type [4:3 | 16:9 | 16:10]
- Prebuffering control
- new HTML extension tag supported, "prebuf=xxx" property tag added to
anchor tag to set the size of the pre-buffer
- Fixed no dimension information displayed for certain M1V/M2V files
- display MP3 album art in actual size
- Fixed exception handling for music album art
- added handling of FLAC file with ID3 header
- DTS-core passthrough fixed
- Fixed audio switch between DTS-HD and other codec no output issue
- Video playback progressive zoom and pan
- press "Zoom" key to cycle through zoom mode, magnify mode and pan mode
- use arrow key to adjust value (only left/right key for zoom/magnify)
- moves viewport when panning, instead of the image
- added exit zoom mode
- change pan step size to 1
- save pan/zoom setting for each zoom profile (FullScreen, Actual Size etc) to RAM.
- Audio output fixes
- fixed some AVI with DTS 96/24 output
- fixed AVI with PCM output noise when set to 5.1
- fixed HDMI no DTS output when AC3 set to PCM mode
- Fixed for 24 bit encoded FLAC playback
- Fixed playback video_ts over SMB stuttering issue
- Fixed Brightness/Saturation/Contrast not applied correctly in DVD playback
- Added language selection for DVD subtitle/audio (Danish etc)
- Fixed DVD with single subtitle track cannot be displayed
- Modified Volume range to improve usable range
- Volume range -15~+15, max 15dB, min -28dB.
- red number if >0dB, indicating boosted volume
- green number if <0dB
- white at 0dB
- Fixed volume not saved when it is 0dB
- Detect .dts as DTS-WAV, starts playback with 0dB to allow uncorrupted passthrough
- Fixed WAV header parsing for certain wav file
- Fixed HD-DVD remux, DD+ track no audio downmix output
- Fixed M2T PMT detection bug
- Fixed DTS-WAV output issue when surround mode is set to 5.1
- Fixed inaccurate running video bitrate
- Rectified "repeat", "suspend" key mapping in ISO playback
- Fixed incorrect playlist OSD display when music playback from myiHome
- Fixed decoder crash when playing a MKV without audio track
- Fixed incorrect downsampling of PCM audio for HDMI output source sampling rate > 48kHz
- Fixed incorrect WAV playback sampling rate (set at 48kHz)
- DTS Stereo downmix supported
3. Photo app
- New Photo app
- added more information on display
- eliminate black-out gap between slides
- able to display monochrome JPEG
- auto rotation for photo (JPEG)
- based on EXIF orientation and below 2048x2048
- Brightness/contrast/saturation change ("Setup" + arrow keys)
- Slideshow fixes
- Auto rotation for jpeg 2111 profile
- Known issue: Color distortion at the bottom of picture after +-90deg rotate.
- Color settings to follow preset value
- changed pan to moving viewport, instead of image (same as for movies)
- fixed mis-aligned position when performing zoom
- Fixed decoder crashed when displaying certain GIF file through HDMI
- Fixed certain JPEG rotation will crash decoder
- Known issues:
- for GIF/BMP/PNG, will clear screen when manually switch previous/next slide
- color distortion at bottom of photo when panning.
- no rotation for BMP GIF PNG
- no rotation for JPEG >= 2048x2048
- JPEG > 15MB cannot be displayed through HTTP
- BMP > 2272x1712, PNG > 4000x2400 cannot be displayed - checking
- Note: myiHome will transcode and scale-down BMP/GIF/PNG to JPEG
4. System/Browser
- Atheros WiFi WEP issue fixes
- added HDMI/DVI colorspace Setup option
- fixed wrong navigation flow after adding network share
- Modified Web Services UI pages
- Fixed when USB drive added/removed, issue with media source page refresh
- Turkish, Danish translation added
- Browser caching to harddisk
- Browser codepage conversion
- Various translation fixes
- WiFi graceful teardown during reboot/shutdown to avoid crash.
- Browser modification
- pressing SOURCE key at "Media source" page will goto "Web Services"
- fixed browser using wrong cached image
- added "new folder" and "rename" functions in File Operation menu
- faster fileplayer sort
- Fixed garbled text at network share -> username/password page
- Various new libs to resolve crash issue Usenet download under certain condition
- Fixed CD-ROM folders not sorted on top of file list
- Fixed occasional inaccurate WiFi auto-scan list
- Workaround inaccurate width calculation for some fixed-width character
- Cut Browser parsing time to about half (reduce about 0.2s)
- Fixed ISO file does not support relative path on fileplayer
- Fixed NMT apps start/stop status shown incorectly
- Fixed NMT apps status refresh in SEtup page and "Reset Factory Setting" handling
- Fixed failure to access Clutch interface
- Fixed broken browser history
5. Network
- NFS servers browsing supported
- SMB client fixes, additional checking to prevent from redirect to invalid/stale share folder
- Handling when network lost - proper unmount and page redirection
- NFS client fixes, reduce the retry time on NFS mount from 2 mins to 1 min
- Revert network IP checking for SMB/NFS share before mount attempt
- Fixed reset to factory settings occasionally failed after network configuration changed
6. Subtitle
- Fixed extended character misaligned in MKV embedded subtitle
- Fixed bi-direction issue in Hebrew *.SUB
- Subtitle menu re-ordered and text modified
- "Time"->"On/Off"->"Color"->"Size"->"Position"
- Fixed Subtitle from myiHomeLite bug (QA#495)
7. Casgle client
- changed Casgle client name from "Casgle Client" to "Casgle iDVR"
- opened Casgle client service for SD mode too
8. Known issues
- PNG/TIFF support over myiHome broken


NMT Apps Version : 00-17-081023-15-POP-403

Release Notes :

1. Minimum firmware version to use this NMT App is 00-17-081023-15-POP-403-000
2. Casgle services added
- For more information on this feature, please visit http://www.casgle.com/pch.php
- Note that by default Casgle iDVR will be subscribed to some
default channels and will do downloads in the background.
This may take up some of your HDD space, and network bandwidth
during the download.
To disable this service, you can Stop this service under
Setup->NMT apps->Start/Stop OR you can unsubscribe all channels
on Casgle
3. Fixed Casgle when start from index page link, unable to add channel
4. NMT apps page will generate for every access to get latest status
5. Added Casgle UI with help
6. Restart NMT apps after restore factory setting
7. Automatic restart NMT app that fails to start
8. Samba server, remove server information when server is stopped
9. Samba server, upgraded Samba server from 3.0.26a to 3.0.32.

Unzip into the root of your USB thumbdrive. Browse to usbupdate.html to update.
Please DO NOT power off the unit during firmware update, as it will render your unit inoperational.

[tetablanco]

Biggest advantage for me on the DTS down-mixing feature is when ill go to tagaytay/baguio/batangas/etc with my family or friends and bring my egreat along to plug-in the local TV. (Im pretty sure that the rooms in hotels outside metro manila (even those in metro manila) don't have an external receiver that can decode DTS)

yep. i move my m31b around quite a bit. that's why the DTS down-mixing feature is useful to me. i won't always have a DTS-decoding external receiver in the places i go to.

[milken]

just curious, when you say down mix---the sound quality of DTS decoded internally would not be as good as that compared to DTS decoded via a receiver right?

[anya618]

just curious, when you say down mix---the sound quality of DTS decoded internally would not be as good as that compared to DTS decoded via a receiver right?

parang napansin ko rin yan, kelangan mas malakas ung volume compared sa sound decoded in dolby digital and pcm

[tetablanco]

just curious, when you say down mix---the sound quality of DTS decoded internally would not be as good as that compared to DTS decoded via a receiver right?

dts down-mixing means that the original dts digital 5.1 sound is decoded internally and converted into 2-channel analog stereo sound so it can be outputted into analog stereo sources such as a TV's built-in stereo speakers. however, this is definitely no substitute for an external DTS-decoding receiver since you get the full quality 5.1 channel DTS digital sound experience.

this DTS down-mixing feature is useful however when you bring your NMT to other places. You can still play your DTS-encoded movies on other TVs using their built-in stereo speakers and won't need an external DTS receiver as well as a 5.1 speaker system to get sound.

[tetablanco]

dts down-mixing to stereo is still not supported in the new egreat 31b 1023 firmware. 

i'm starting to think that this is already a hardware limitation. maybe the 31b's hardware just isn't capable of internally decoding DTS and converting it to 2-channel stereo. that's probably why there is an optional DTS daughter board available for the 31b while there is no such board for the a-110. i hope i'm wrong though.

i can't even load the new 1023 nmt apps as the nmt setup wizard can't detect my usb flash stick, the same stick i used to flash to the new 1023 firmware.

update: got the new 1023 nmt apps to finally load by changing the filename.

[penguin230]

i can't even load the new 1023 nmt apps as the nmt setup wizard can't detect my usb flash stick, the same stick i used to flash to the new 1023 firmware.

update: got the new 1023 nmt apps to finally load by changing the filename.

to what file name did you change it to? the nmt apps i downloaded was named 00-17-081023-15-EGR-402.nmt, did you change it to something like syb8634.nmt, which was how the nmt apps for the previous (080808) firmware was named, for it to work?

the linda and the .bin file is named similarly though. btw, i downloaded my firmware from the shenzhen site.

http://www.egreatworld.com/en/support.asp

edit: i successfully updated my firmware and nmt apps. i just put 2 copies of the nmt apps in the root of my usb to be sure, one named 00-17-081023-15-EGR-402.nmt and the other i changed the file name to syb8634.nmt  i dont know which one was used though 

- jb

[IceTea]

dts down-mixing to stereo is still not supported in the new egreat 31b 1023 firmware. 

Argh!  Why not?  I thought they usually follow the PCH path for firmware upgrade.   :'(

[milken]

I remember egreat announcing support for internal decoding of DTS months ago.  Maybe we have to wait until the next firmware update.

[[joms]]

dts down-mixing to stereo is still not supported in the new egreat 31b 1023 firmware. 

i'm starting to think that this is already a hardware limitation. maybe the 31b's hardware just isn't capable of internally decoding DTS and converting it to 2-channel stereo. that's probably why there is an optional DTS daughter board available for the 31b while there is no such board for the a-110. i hope i'm wrong though.

i can't even load the new 1023 nmt apps as the nmt setup wizard can't detect my usb flash stick, the same stick i used to flash to the new 1023 firmware.

update: got the new 1023 nmt apps to finally load by changing the filename.

I don't think sir that its a hardware limitation of the egreat as all NMTs are pretty much the same. As per PCH forums, the PCH A110 can already downmix DTS successfully. It's either egreat hasn't paid for the license to use DTS yet thereby they aren't allowed yet to activate the DTS downmixing OR the one who adapted the new firmware to egreat systems didn't do a very good job. *shrug* 

[jackryan]

oh, we have the novatronn unit in store.  still setting it up and whatnot, but if you're curious to see (and compare) both units, side by side (along with the a110), just drop by. not sure how long it's staying though.

we'll be carrying the novatron as well (though we're not directly importing it, we're getting it through the local distro, who have been kind enough to lend it to us).  will post impressions in our multiply site.

Richie, this one is also nice... try to get the model with the wireless LAN support option bundled together... :-) (thumbs-up for the LCD display and unit's button controls but thumbs-down for the whole plastic enclosure) but over-all, a good alternative to the eGREAT's. However, I use my eGREAT much more than the Novatron of late... 

[jackryan]

mainit talaga bro, yung 3x1.5tb ko ay me kanya-kanyang harddisk cooler.. baka biglang mawala ang 4TB of MKV's ko.. hehe

nung walang fan, idle at 38C-40C; load at 45C-50C
ngayon me fan: idle at 36C-38C; load at 40C-45C

RJ, have you tried getting the external Vantec NexStar MX casings that I am also using? I am on my 3rd unit of that... thanks also for helping me get the 1.5TB last Friday... :-) (So far, I tried two of my 1.5TB HD's into them and they seem to be working out well despite an overnight operation).

I went to E-Home yesterday and ended up getting another WD 1TB My Studio... I really think I will need confine myself with "Unexplained-Storage-Space-Obsession-Syndrome"... tally to-date: 10TB. I have now to find a good time to weed out my duplicates... I am also creating my own personal jukebox of all my DVD collection before... after that I will sell off my SONY 400-DVD Megachangers --- both of them!

This surely beats the EMC storage total space capacity we have in the data center right now! hahaha

:-)