Author Topic: NBA 2008-2009 Season on BTV, ESPN, Star, C/S (Read 16888 times)

Wiggum · « **Reply #30 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 08:23 AM »

Woke up today to a huge NBA trade: Iverson's going to Detroit in exchange for Billups and McDyess!

I don't know what to make of the moves made by either team. But historically, Joe Dumars has proven that he knows what he's doing, except maybe getting Kwane Brown.

darth_rye · « **Reply #31 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 08:37 AM »

Looks like Joe dumars surprise a lot of of people just like Lakers did when they acquired Gasol.

One conclussion for me here Joe Dumars will be in the forefront once Lebron James contract expire with Cavs on 2010.

But will this new roster of Detroit be able to win the Eastern conference (A rematch of 2004 NBA finals might be possible this 2009 NBA finals LA Lakers/Detroit Piston, another payback time for my LA Lakers)

DaSilva · « **Reply #32 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 08:40 AM »

or darko, let's not forget him

i think, for dumars, it's a win-now-with-iverson, win-later-with-stuckey trade. plus as darth-rye says it clears up cap space to pursue lebron in 2010 (get in line, joe).

for denver, it's let's-share-the-ball-more basketball.

for melo,it's give-me-the-f'ing-ball!

darth_rye · « **Reply #33 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 08:50 AM »

Check-out some reaction regarding the Iverson trade.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AnFIPEZZBi0QP_8GxJjaBD3TjdIF?slug=aw-dumarslebron110308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Munskie · « **Reply #34 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 10:15 AM »

Im happy with this trade fantasy wise. It bumps up my SG JR Smith to starter status, more minutes, more shots.

kimpOy · « **Reply #35 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 11:56 AM »

steal by the pistons!

galing talaga ni joeD, forget AI, even AI got injured on the way to detroit it doesnt matter.. as you've read it already... AI and Sheed's salary will come off the book next year.. that's 30M salary cap relief... if JoeD plays his cards right and we know he will, detroit can have a starting lineup of stuckey, rip, lebron, maxiel and bosh in 2011

Munskie · « **Reply #36 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 12:14 PM »

Wow......27 pts and 16 rebs by Memphis' Marc Gasol vs the Warriors. Makes me rethink the Pau Gasol trade.

But then again, these are Nellie's Warriors. Every big men should have a heydey against Nellie's small ball line-up.

voj · « **Reply #37 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 12:15 PM »

Quote from: kimpOy on Nov 04, 2008 at 11:56 AM

steal by the pistons!

galing talaga ni joeD, forget AI, even AI got injured on the way to detroit it doesnt matter.. as you've read it already... AI and Sheed's salary will come off the book next year.. that's 30M salary cap relief... if JoeD plays his cards right and we know he will, detroit can have a starting lineup of stuckey, rip, lebron, maxiel and bosh in 2011

One thing going against this is HISTORY. More often than not, when a franchise player gets traded, they're shipped to the opposite conference, especially so if the original team is also a contender.

darth_rye · « **Reply #38 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 12:33 PM »

Quote from: voj on Nov 04, 2008 at 12:15 PM

One thing going against this is HISTORY. More often than not, when a franchise player gets traded, they're shipped to the opposite conference, especially so if the original team is also a contender.

Correct! Although one exception i can think was Luis Scola from Spurs to Rockets. Not just same western conference but same division as well.

Quote from: kimpOy on Nov 04, 2008 at 11:56 AM

steal by the pistons!

galing talaga ni joeD, forget AI, even AI got injured on the way to detroit it doesnt matter.. as you've read it already... AI and Sheed's salary will come off the book next year.. that's 30M salary cap relief... if JoeD plays his cards right and we know he will, detroit can have a starting lineup of stuckey, rip, lebron, maxiel and bosh in 2011

Maybe Lebron or d-Wade only. Having Bosh will be too much unless they all take huge pay-cut and definitely it wont happen.

Free agency = Big Fat contracts! $$$$$$$$

kimpOy · « **Reply #39 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 12:40 PM »

he..he im just citing an example of how max 34M
(21M AI, 13M sheed) can be when it comes off the book by next year...

Lebron-Boozer reunion can be a reality in detroit...

voj · « **Reply #40 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 12:44 PM »

Quote from: darth_rye on Nov 04, 2008 at 12:33 PM

Correct! Although one exception i can think was Luis Scola from Spurs to Rockets. Not just same western conference but same division as well.

I'm sorry I'm not familiar with some of the players. Is Scola already a franchise player? i should follow the games more.

I was thinking along the lines of

Milwaukee to Los Angeles - Jabbar
Philadelphia to Los Angeles - Chamberlain
Minnesota to Boston - Garnett
Los Angeles to Miami - Shaq

you know, players that makes instant contenders to the receiving team that would provide additional hurdle to the original team's own championship quest. of course, there are exceptions, that's why i didn't discount the possibility just pointed out the precedent.

Battousai · « **Reply #41 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 12:56 PM »

Houston's Ron Artest came from Sacramento and I'd like to think he was the franchise player then for the Kings.

Steve Nash, although not considered Dallas' franchise player then, was shipped back to Phoenix and man did he and D'Antoni make the Suns fun to watch and a contender to boot.

darth_rye · « **Reply #42 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 12:58 PM »

Your correct voj!

Thats why i love NBA! 2009 season is barely a week old and already big time player movement made by the pistons. Other eastern team will likely follow suit.

Celtics will surely find their hands full just defending their Eastern conference title much more Their NBA title.

kimpOy · « **Reply #43 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 01:00 PM »

not to be sounding like an nba geek but im my poor memory serves me right.. cuban wont dig deep into his pockets to sign nash who is an unrestricted FA. funny though before that he gave daimpier a huge contract.

darth_rye · « **Reply #44 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 01:21 PM »

Quote from: Battousai on Nov 04, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Houston's Ron Artest came from Sacramento and I'd like to think he was the franchise player then for the Kings.

Steve Nash, although not considered Dallas' franchise player then, was shipped back to Phoenix and man did he and D'Antoni make the Suns fun to watch and a contender to boot.

Steve Nash won the NBA MVP on his first year back with the suns and the next year also. Making him in league with MJ,Russel,Chamberlain,Jabbar,Magic,Bird,Duncan,M.Malone, in winning back to back MVP and hopefully Kobe will join them this year...he-he!

Battousai · « **Reply #45 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 02:38 PM »

I think Kobe would rather have the Larry O trophy this year.

darth_rye · « **Reply #46 on:** Nov 04, 2008 at 02:47 PM »

Quote from: Battousai on Nov 04, 2008 at 02:38 PM

I think Kobe would rather have the Larry O trophy this year.

I agreed with you..But it would make lots of Lakers fan including myself very happy if he can have it both this season.

Munskie · « **Reply #47 on:** Nov 05, 2008 at 07:57 AM »

Quote from: Battousai on Nov 04, 2008 at 02:38 PM

I think Kobe would rather have the Larry O trophy this year.

Oh yeah.

He has his Olympic Gold Medal already....

He got his MVP.

He got three rings.

Now, to complete his hardware, he needs to win another championship ring...sans Shaq.

Munskie · « **Reply #48 on:** Nov 05, 2008 at 11:09 AM »

Wow...Spurs being blown out at home.

In danger of being buried in an 0-3 hole of a start.

dobler · « **Reply #49 on:** Nov 05, 2008 at 11:15 AM »

Quote from: Munskie on Nov 05, 2008 at 11:09 AM

Wow...Spurs being blown out at home.

In danger of being buried in an 0-3 hole of a start.

They're saving themselves for the playoffs. Hehe...

bumblebee · « **Reply #50 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 10:29 AM »

Amare
FG: 18-22, 0-2 3pt
FT: 15-15
Rebs: 11
Assists: 6
Blocks: 2
Stls: 5
Pts: 51

Vs Indiana. Very impressive.

darth_rye · « **Reply #51 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 10:42 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Nov 06, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Amare
FG: 18-22
FT: 11-11
Rebs: 10
Assists: 6
Blocks: 4
Stls: 2
Pts: 47

Vs Indiana and the game is not yet over.

I guess its a big thanks to Shaq now playing the Center position for the Suns. Amare moved to his natural power forward position and getting more comfortable with it.

Secondly, i think Indiana doesn't have a match-up for amare thats why his wreacking havoc. Lets wait for them to play Houston. Still very impressive!

Munskie · « **Reply #52 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 10:53 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Nov 06, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Amare
FG: 18-22, 0-2 3pt
FT: 15-15
Rebs: 11
Assists: 6
Blocks: 2
Stls: 5
Pts: 51

Vs Indiana. Very impressive.

1 game Fantasy Stats Filler of the year......

Very hard to top that.

DaSilva · « **Reply #53 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 12:18 PM »

wow, the brothers are inspired today, perhaps by barack

49 by amare
41 by lebron in 36 minutes
55 by parker
melo vowed to score 44 in honor of obama
who knows what kobe will do today

Munskie · « **Reply #54 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 12:24 PM »

Quote from: DaSilva on Nov 06, 2008 at 12:18 PM

wow, the brothers are inspired today, perhaps by barack

49 by amare
41 by lebron in 36 minutes
55 by parker
melo vowed to score 44 in honor of obama
who knows what kobe will do today

Yup...big games all.....

kimpOy · « **Reply #55 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 12:56 PM »

mukhang iba ang inspiration ni tony parker.. mukhang sinuwerte kagabi...

sardaukar · « **Reply #56 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 01:17 PM »

Quote from: darth_rye on Nov 06, 2008 at 10:42 AM

I guess its a big thanks to Shaq now playing the Center position for the Suns. Amare moved to his natural power forward position and getting more comfortable with it.

Secondly, i think Indiana doesn't have a match-up for amare thats why his wreacking havoc. Lets wait for them to play Houston. Still very impressive!

I didn't see the game but maybe more of the second (at least for this particular game). Looking at the box scores Shaq only played 12 minutes so he probably didn't have a lot to do with Amare's stat line.

bumblebee · « **Reply #57 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 01:23 PM »

Quote from: kimpOy on Nov 06, 2008 at 12:56 PM

mukhang iba ang inspiration ni tony parker.. mukhang sinuwerte kagabi...

Di ba dapat manghina sya? 2OT e. Baka mamayang gabi pa, kaya inspired.

darth_rye · « **Reply #58 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 01:45 PM »

Quote from: sardaukar on Nov 06, 2008 at 01:17 PM

I didn't see the game but maybe more of the second (at least for this particular game). Looking at the box scores Shaq only played 12 minutes so he probably didn't have a lot to do with Amare's stat line.

I am not just refering on this particular game but since shaq was traded to Suns they got a big man that can cover the center position. And Amare able to moved at power forward position which i thinks he is more comfortable rather than playing the teams center position during pre-shaq time. Just my observation.

Cant wait for them to match-up with my LA lakers (Nov.20)

Munskie · « **Reply #59 on:** Nov 06, 2008 at 05:56 PM »

Amare scoring 49 points on 18-22 shooting has more to do playing against Indiana big stiffs like Troy Murphy and Jeff Foster......

Still pretty impressive though.