Author Topic: WD TV HD Media Player (Read 182651 times)

barrister · « **Reply #510 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 12:25 AM »

Quote from: edubaret on Jan 22, 2009 at 05:52 PM

Mga bossing, can you help me? I just got my wd tv hd media player two days ago. kaso, while playing lord of the ring two towers nawala agad yun video in the beginning of the movie, kya wala nako makita though naririnig ko pa rin yun audio tuloy tuloy. Anu kaya problema nito? yung part lord of the ring 1 ok walang problema but yung two towers may prob. Ganun din yung harry potter yung ibang series nawala yun video pero you can still hear the sound while its playing

question: anu kaya problema nito yung video file or yung player?

edward

Imposibleng masagot ang tanong na yan kung hindi mo sasabihin ang specs ng video file.

The title of the movie is irrelevant. What is relevant is the file specs.

Archie · « **Reply #511 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 06:34 AM »

bakit ayaw gumana kung yun hdd derecho sa dvd player na may usb input?

also, what will happen if i connect a pc, multiple external hds mem cards, and the wd hd player via a usb hub?

thanks

ninjababez® · « **Reply #512 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 07:23 AM »

Western Digital WD TV HD Media Player
available again .. at Questlogic Tech Computer Store

available again!!

edubaret · « **Reply #513 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 08:39 AM »

mkv 720

edward

Quote from: barrister on Jan 23, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Imposibleng masagot ang tanong na yan kung hindi mo sasabihin ang specs ng video file.

The title of the movie is irrelevant. What is relevant is the file specs.

barrister · « **Reply #514 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 09:36 AM »

OK dapat ang MKV 720p. Kung ang ibang detalye ay ayos pa rin, baka defective ang authoring ng file o hindi pa updated ang firmware ng WD.

Forums say it works fine up to MKV Level 5.1, unless reference frame number is too high. VC-1 codec does not work in .MKV containers, but works in .M2TS containers.

Please fill in the blanks:

Container : _MKV_
Level : ______
Reference Frames: ______
Video Codec : ______
Video Bitrate : ______
Resolution : _720p_
Audio Codec : ______

If you have not yet updated to 1.01.02 firmware, please do so.

The firmware reportedly fixed the occasional "black screen while only audio is playing" issue with .MKV files, although the fix was not declared in the official release notes.

Also see my old posts:

Quote from: barrister on Jan 06, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Users' Unofficial WD Bug List Thread on avsforum:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1100499

Quote from: barrister on Jan 04, 2009 at 02:18 PM

Latest firmware: ver. 1.01.02.

Fixes only 1 minor issue:

"Resolved the issue surrounding updating the firmware from a large (500GB or larger) drive, previously the WDTV™ would not recognize the updated firmware on a large drive."

Download firmware update (1.01.02) and release notes (1.01.01 & 1.01.02) from WD TV Software Update Page:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/

Click "Download Now" and "Release Notes".

----------------------------------------------

Safe firmware flash method, if updating from a version earlier than 1.01.02:

- Get a thumb drive; save its exisitng contents in another location; reformat the thumb drive.
- Copy the extracted .BIN and .VER files to the thumb drive.
- On the WD, go to Home > Settings System > System reset > OK.
- Eject all connected drives, then physically disconnect all USB ports.
- Connect thumb drive to the WD, then proceed with firmware update instructions on the release notes.

barrister · « **Reply #515 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 09:52 AM »

Quote from: Archie on Jan 23, 2009 at 06:34 AM

bakit ayaw gumana kung yun hdd derecho sa dvd player na may usb input?

Siguro dahil NTFS ang format ng HDD. Usually, FAT32 lang ang kayang format ng DVD player.

Quote from: Archie on Jan 23, 2009 at 06:34 AM

also, what will happen if i connect a pc, multiple external hds mem cards, and the wd hd player via a usb hub?

Hindi gagana yon.

edubaret · « **Reply #516 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 02:50 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jan 23, 2009 at 09:36 AM

OK dapat ang MKV 720p. Kung ang ibang detalye ay ayos pa rin, baka defective ang authoring ng file o hindi pa updated ang firmware ng WD.

Forums say it works fine up to MKV Level 5.1, unless reference frame number is too high. VC-1 codec does not work in .MKV containers, but works in .M2TS containers.

Please fill in the blanks:

Container : _MKV_
Level : ______
Reference Frames: ______
Video Codec : ______
Video Bitrate : ______
Resolution : _720p_
Audio Codec : ______

If you have not yet updated to 1.01.02 firmware, please do so.

The firmware reportedly fixed the occasional "black screen while only audio is playing" issue with .MKV files, although the fix was not declared in the official release notes.

Also see my old posts:

San ko makikita yung mga sagot dito? sorry d ko alam how to get this info. when i paused the movie and play it again, naging ok na. what s wrong with this kaya? yun file kaya?

edward

barrister · « **Reply #517 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 04:06 PM »

Quote from: edubaret on Jan 23, 2009 at 02:50 PM

San ko makikita yung mga sagot dito? sorry d ko alam how to get this info.

May mga software na bumabasa ng details.

OK lang sir. Wag mo muna pansinin yung file details, magulo talaga yan. Tutal, hindi rin naman ako expert e.

Kaya nga ba ako, mas gusto ko AVI container & Xvid codec. Simpleng simple, hindi pa ko tatanda nang wala sa panahon dahil sa kunsumisyon ...

Quote from: edubaret on Jan 23, 2009 at 02:50 PM

what s wrong with this kaya? yun file kaya?

Hula ko bug ng WD mo yan kasi hindi updated ang firmware. Try mo muna update sa 1.01.02 firmware.

Clondalkin · « **Reply #518 on:** Jan 23, 2009 at 05:20 PM »

Quote from: edubaret on Jan 23, 2009 at 02:50 PM

San ko makikita yung mga sagot dito? sorry d ko alam how to get this info. when i paused the movie and play it again, naging ok na. what s wrong with this kaya? yun file kaya?

edward

Edvard, try mo paglaruan yung freeware called Mediainfo.

Is it possible for you to try your files on the PC you're using to make these posts? Or maybe a friend's PC or NMT?

Hula ko rin yung WD kase maraming cases na kapag may issue yung player, sound lang lumalabas kase dehins makahabol sa bitstream ng video. Kung problema ng file, usually it wont play at all, or would stop playing somewhere..pero sabi mo meron naman sound (tuloy-tuloy?), and when you pause and play, lumalabas.

Archie · « **Reply #519 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 01:17 AM »

i connected my usb hdd to a dvd player with usb input. got it working.
no need for this device for the time being.

barrister · « **Reply #520 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 01:37 AM »

Sooner or later, you will notice just how many video files a DVD player's USB port cannot handle properly.

It's going to be a frustrating experience.

jeyps11_c · « **Reply #521 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 07:03 AM »

Not just the files but the file format of the hdd and the limitations of the file format. Even if you were able to make a FAT32 formatted HDD run via DVD USB you won't be able to play any hidef movies since it is normally higher than 4GB. Plus the fact that not a lot of DVDs handle .mkv I don't think it'll be possible to run a hidef movie. But if you're just doing TV series and SD movies that'll do.

edubaret · « **Reply #522 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 08:51 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Jan 23, 2009 at 04:06 PM

May mga software na bumabasa ng details.

OK lang sir. Wag mo muna pansinin yung file details, magulo talaga yan. Tutal, hindi rin naman ako expert e.

Kaya nga ba ako, mas gusto ko AVI container & Xvid codec. Simpleng simple, hindi pa ko tatanda nang wala sa panahon dahil sa kunsumisyon ...

Hula ko bug ng WD mo yan kasi hindi updated ang firmware. Try mo muna update sa 1.01.02 firmware.

updated na firmware ko 1.01.02 but still ganun pa rin problema. while playing nagpipixelize. pag inistop ko and play it again ayos na ulit.

file kaya problema nito?

edward

barrister · « **Reply #523 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 09:46 AM »

Sa tingin ko yung file ang problema.

Hindi naman corrupted files, kakaiba lang siguro ang specifications kaya nagkakaroon ng compatibility issues.

Ang mga media files kasi ay walang standard specs. Ang gumagawa niyan ay mga hobbyists lang na gumagamit ng kanya-kanyang specs. Iba-iba tuloy ang lumalabas na encodes.

Quote from: jeyps11_c on Jan 24, 2009 at 07:03 AM

Not just the files but the file format of the hdd and the limitations of the file format. Even if you were able to make a FAT32 formatted HDD run via DVD USB you won't be able to play any hidef movies since it is normally higher than 4GB.

That's right. Maximum file size for FAT32 is 2GB.

Quote from: jeyps11_c on Jan 24, 2009 at 07:03 AM

Plus the fact that not a lot of DVDs handle .mkv I don't think it'll be possible to run a hidef movie.

AFAIK, there is presently no DVD player that is MKV-compatible.

Quote from: jeyps11_c on Jan 24, 2009 at 07:03 AM

But if you're just doing TV series and SD movies that'll do.

Even very simple media files have playback issues on DVD players.

I like to keep my equipment simple. If low-bitrate AVI media files with common codecs can play flawlessly on my DVD players, then I would not have had any need for yet another gadget such as the WD. Unfortunatlely, media file playback on DVD players is unreliable.

My TV series are encoded in AVI container, Xvid video and MP3 audio. File sizes are 350MB per 1-hour episode.

On the DVD player, some of those TV show files play with dropped frames; some disable the time display; some forward at 2x maximum and cannot be reversed; some stop and go back to the beginning whenever the reverse button is pressed. But all of them play flawlessly on my WD.

I have one AVI-Xvid file (also a 1-hour TV episode) that has portions that flicker on the DVD player. It also flickers in the same portions on my PC using Nero ShowTime, Windows Media Player and Winamp. But it plays flawlessly on my WD.

I transcoded a DVD to AVI-Xvid; audio is untouched direct-stream AC3 5.1. File size is only 1.5 GB, yet it stutters badly on my DVD player. But it plays perfectly on my WD.

edubaret · « **Reply #524 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 10:03 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Jan 24, 2009 at 09:46 AM

Sa tingin ko yung file ang problema.

Hindi naman corrupted files, kakaiba lang siguro ang specifications kaya nagkakaroon ng compatibility issues.

Ang mga media files kasi ay walang standard specs. Ang gumagawa niyan ay mga hobbyists lang na gumagamit ng kanya-kanyang specs. Iba-iba tuloy ang lumalabas na encodes.

That's right. Maximum file size for FAT32 is 2GB.

Question: The reason I bought wd tv is to experience hi def movies pref 1080p. Those Mkv files format lang ba capable to play hi def movies?
May dvd pio upscaling player rin ako and i am using p***** movies dvd9 copies with 42pv70 pana and it sits well and play like those hi def movies. I cant see much diff fyi.

edubaret · « **Reply #525 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 10:07 AM »

Quote from: edubaret on Jan 24, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Quote from: barrister on Jan 24, 2009 at 09:46 AM
Sa tingin ko yung file ang problema.

Hindi naman corrupted files, kakaiba lang siguro ang specifications kaya nagkakaroon ng compatibility issues.

Ang mga media files kasi ay walang standard specs. Ang gumagawa niyan ay mga hobbyists lang na gumagamit ng kanya-kanyang specs. Iba-iba tuloy ang lumalabas na encodes.

That's right. Maximum file size for FAT32 is 2GB.

Question: The reason I bought wd tv is to experience hi def movies pref 1080p. Those Mkv files format lang ba capable to play hi def movies?
May dvd pio upscaling player rin ako and i am using p***** movies dvd9 copies with 42pv70 pana and it sits well and play like those hi def movies. I cant see much diff fyi.

Question: The reason I bought wd tv is to experience hi def movies pref 1080p. Those Mkv files format lang ba capable to play hi def movies? kung may bug yun file, anu file format dapat icopy ko aside from mkv so i can play those hi def movies?
May dvd pio upscaling player rin ako and i am using p***** movies dvd9 blu rayed copies with 42pv70 pana and it sits well and play like those hi def movies. I cant see much diff fyi.

barrister · « **Reply #526 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 10:16 AM »

Maraming formats ang puwede sa high-def files. It just so happens that MKV is the most popular.

My advice is to stick with MKV for high def files. We really have to go for the most widely-used, since that's the only way to at least have some semblance of spec standardization.

If you can't replace the problematic titles with a different MKV file, you will have to re-encode it yourself. Try Super http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER . Very flexible but difficult to learn, pero OK na rin once you get used to it.

In my experience with the fake DVDs, very few BD-to-DVD9 transcodes are good. Dropped frames of the severe kind is the common encoding error. Most of my acquaintances don't notice it. But they all see it after I point it out to them.

Whenever I see a well-encoded fake DVD-9 in a BD package, 99% of the time it's just a direct copy from a standard DVD rather than a BD transcode, but packaged as BD for marketing purposes.

edubaret · « **Reply #527 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Jan 24, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Maraming formats ang puwede sa high-def files. It just so happens that MKV is the most popular.

My advice is to stick with MKV for high def files. We really have to go for the most widely-used, since that's the only way to at least have some semblance of spec standardization.

If you can't replace the problematic titles with a different MKV file, you will have to re-encode it yourself. Try Super http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER . Very flexible but difficult to learn, pero OK na rin once you get used to it.

Naku, i dont have time to learn this. Is it ok Sir Barrister to copy those hi-def movies bug free from you ? hehehe

barrister · « **Reply #528 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM »

Sir edubaret, this forum has a strict policy against piracy, so hindi tayo puwedeng mag-mention ng file-copying.

Besides, I don't have any high-def files anyway.

:'( Try sending a private message to sir ninjababez. I'm sure he can help with the files

, but no forum discussion please.

My advice is to keep your setup simple. The more complicated it gets, the more time it will demand from you.

But you will still need the program SUPER by eRightSoft (actually a GUI of several programs) to view the video file's specs. Just drag the file to the bottom window and double-click the file to view the specs.

Alfie · « **Reply #529 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 07:53 PM »

I finally joined the bandwagon.....the WD TV HD Media player was being sold earlier at the Gaisano Store in Gilmore, at 5.8K, and since Quest Logic is so far in Paranaque,and the price is the same I decided to get one for myself.

I'm now in the process of upgrading the firmware.

kapau · « **Reply #530 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 08:39 PM »

congrats sir

barrister · « **Reply #531 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 09:13 PM »

Congrats! Best price na talaga ang P5.8K.

Alfie · « **Reply #532 on:** Jan 24, 2009 at 09:25 PM »

Barrister- Post ka kasi nang Post....na-convince tuloy akong bumili

Thanks sa mga Info mo, very helpful talaga.

.....kaya lang tulad mo...axxo fan parin ako.

ninjababez® · « **Reply #533 on:** Jan 25, 2009 at 12:35 AM »

Quote from: Alfie on Jan 24, 2009 at 09:25 PM

Barrister- Post ka kasi nang Post....na-convince tuloy akong bumili
Thanks sa mga Info mo, very helpful talaga. .....kaya lang tulad mo...axxo fan parin ako.

bro try playing 1080p band of brothers, if it stutters try another 1080p files.

barrister · « **Reply #534 on:** Jan 25, 2009 at 01:39 AM »

Quote from: Alfie on Jan 24, 2009 at 09:25 PM

Barrister- Post ka kasi nang Post....na-convince tuloy akong bumili
Thanks sa mga Info mo, very helpful talaga. .....kaya lang tulad mo...axxo fan parin ako.

You're welcome, sir ...

Pero curious lang ako ... Di ba dati ka nang may HTPC? ... Bakit pa gagamit ng WD player? ... At bakit pa magtitiyaga sa aXXo?

nerveblocker · « **Reply #535 on:** Jan 25, 2009 at 01:45 AM »

Quote from: Alfie on Jan 24, 2009 at 07:53 PM

I finally joined the bandwagon.....the WD TV HD Media player was being sold earlier at the Gaisano Store in Gilmore, at 5.8K, and since Quest Logic is so far in Paranaque,and the price is the same I decided to get one for myself.

I'm now in the process of upgrading the firmware.

Ditto

keema · « **Reply #536 on:** Jan 25, 2009 at 04:31 AM »

sorry mga sirs pero out of topic itong question ko.

sabihin nating may external hardrive ako tapos ginawa ko syang fat32..pag kinabit ko ba sya sa usb port ng mga dvd players mababasa na nya toh? mapa-powered na external hdd or mapa hindi..

salamat mga sirs..

captainbarbell · « **Reply #537 on:** Jan 25, 2009 at 08:01 AM »

Quote from: keema on Jan 25, 2009 at 04:31 AM

sorry mga sirs pero out of topic itong question ko.

sabihin nating may external hardrive ako tapos ginawa ko syang fat32..pag kinabit ko ba sya sa usb port ng mga dvd players mababasa na nya toh? mapa-powered na external hdd or mapa hindi..

salamat mga sirs..

If Im not mistaken brod, yung first 30gb lang ng external HDD ang kayang basahin or ma detect ng usb ng dvd. So kahit naka Fat 32 ka, dapat mag create ka ng partition. (example: kung may 40gb ka...dapat 30gb and 10gb ang partition..)

depende pa rin to sa klase ng enclosure at hdd. Madami na rin ako nasubukan na hindi umubra, especially yung mga old models ng external na matakaw sa power.

I believe meron ng nag create ng FAQS nyan dito sa mga forum

gearhead000 · « **Reply #538 on:** Jan 25, 2009 at 09:07 AM »

Quote from: Alfie on Jan 24, 2009 at 09:25 PM

Barrister- Post ka kasi nang Post....na-convince tuloy akong bumili
Thanks sa mga Info mo, very helpful talaga. .....kaya lang tulad mo...axxo fan parin ako.

waiting for your feedback, bro. alfie.

Alfie · « **Reply #539 on:** Jan 25, 2009 at 09:13 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Jan 25, 2009 at 01:39 AM

You're welcome, sir ...

Pero curious lang ako ... Di ba dati ka nang may HTPC? ... Bakit pa gagamit ng WD player? ... At bakit pa magtitiyaga sa aXXo?

Number of reasons really:
1)The advantage of the WD TV HD Media Player is that you can use all your HDD(I have at least 6 TB as of my accounting of Axxo type files) for your movie viewing pleasure. Unlike the other NMTs like Egreat/Popcorn wherein the HDD that you installed will probably be the only HDD you'll use , with the WD TV HD Media Player, it's mainly Plug in and out (and as what you have supplemented with picture before),and use it on your CRT.

(In which I still have been maintaining mainly for it's Closed Captions capabilities,and I cannot use my HTPC on my CRT).

2)It can recognize a HDD formatted to NTFS, whereas my usb equipped DVD players can only recognize FAT32 formatted HDD(which is a disadvantage to maintain).

3)Portability-Going on long vacation at most times will place you with accommodations that only have a CRT for your viewing pleasure.During my last travel, my laptop became my media player for the week.

4)Cheapest player that can decode MKV,and you're assured of the one year warranty.

and additionally'

Quote

... At bakit pa magtitiyaga sa aXXo?

1)I'm a content type of person.

2) I am fully satisfied with the way the axxo files were encoded(Imagine a 700mb movie file,the more the merrier, It's a library I want)

3)The axxo file releases are up to date(The latest DVD release),and the hard to find titles are mostly in the Axxo type of files for e.g. The German Count Dracula with Klaus Kinsky will probably not be released in MKV.

4)MKV files are mostly the commercial type of films that are easily available whether as an original Blu Ray release, DVD release or even you BluRayray'an which I feel is much better and cheaper to purchase rather than a 7.8G MKV on an average 80kbps download rate.(tried once, a 5 G file took me 3-4 days on a good connection day)

5)Lastly....MKV 1080p files are only for HTPCs.

BTW...I'm still pro HTPC, it's just that a new product is available and due to it's price affordable, so why not buy one?.......another thing......last night; I played with it and found out that The Dark Knight 1080p cannot be rendered, but I'm expecting this, I just wanna confirm, about the limitations of this player.

Another Thing; the trend nowadays in one of the sites that i frequent is to release a BDRip Axxo type of file. which averages 1.5 to 2 G.Most of the time, it includes the original AC3 audio.