Topic: 1080p with a non-HDMI A/V receiver

[DonT]

Lets say I have the following:
1. DVD player with 1080p output w/ HDMI port
2. A/V receiver w/o HDMI port
3. LCD TV with HDMI port.

What would be the best way to connect them?
DVD Video ---> LCD TV via HDMI directly
DVD Audio ---> A/V receiver via optical cable?

possible? 

[ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ]

yes sir that would be best given that scenario.

[DonT]

Is there any drawback in having a non-HDMI A/V receiver? Is there any Audio technology which is dependent on HDMI and cannot be accomplished by optical or component connections?

[blued888]

Is there any drawback in having a non-HDMI A/V receiver? Is there any Audio technology which is dependent on HDMI and cannot be accomplished by optical or component connections?

Lossless audio can only be bitstreamed via HDMI or output via PCM through analog outputs.

For optical you will be limited to DD and DTS/DTS-ES.

[Huddaf]

Is there any drawback in having a non-HDMI A/V receiver? Is there any Audio technology which is dependent on HDMI and cannot be accomplished by optical or component connections?

With your current setup, there is no drawback. There is no lossless audio anyway to process coming from your DVD Player.

If you decide to go hidef, then there is a drawback. DTS HD and Dolby True HD cannot be processed using optical. Those are the new Audio Technology that is very dependent on HDMI.

[jeyps11_c]

So better to directly output the audio to the AVR instead of this: DVD (via HDMI) --> display --> digital coax/toslink to AVR.
I think I have the same question as the OP. I have a PS3, Pio DV600, 42PV8 and Denon 1907 (non-HDMI AVR).
What I did was run the Pio DV600 and PS3 to the display via HDMI then output the display audio to the AVR via coax cables.

[iiinas]

So better to directly output the audio to the AVR instead of this: DVD (via HDMI) --> display --> digital coax/toslink to AVR.
I think I have the same question as the OP. I have a PS3, Pio DV600, 42PV8 and Denon 1907 (non-HDMI AVR).
What I did was run the Pio DV600 and PS3 to the display via HDMI then output the display audio to the AVR via coax cables.

for non-hdmi avrs, i think your connection is the right one.

[jeyps11_c]

But is that the optimized option? Another one that I can think of is HDMI to display for video then use digital out for the audio (coax or toslink) but directly connect it to the AVR. Will this set up have any difference than the first one?

[jojitv]

But is that the optimized option? Another one that I can think of is HDMI to display for video then use digital out for the audio (coax or toslink) but directly connect it to the AVR. Will this set up have any difference than the first one?

I think this is better since you wouldn't have to turn on the tv in case you want to listen to audio only sources.

[Huddaf]

So better to directly output the audio to the AVR instead of this: DVD (via HDMI) --> display --> digital coax/toslink to AVR.
I think I have the same question as the OP. I have a PS3, Pio DV600, 42PV8 and Denon 1907 (non-HDMI AVR).
What I did was run the Pio DV600 and PS3 to the display via HDMI then output the display audio to the AVR via coax cables.

Thats possible. If you want all audios to prioritize going into your LCD/Plasma then you can do it that way. Then just make sure that your monitor out for audio (coax or optical) is directed to your AVR.

Problem is, if you are playing a DTS encoded dvd, your DVD wont be able to downmix it (and possibly your TV too cant do it) and you wont hear a sound. 

[jeyps11_c]

So I made some changes in my set up...Pio DV600 via coax to AVR for the audio and HDMI to the display.
I did the same thing for my PS3, HDMI to display and toslink to the AVR. The problems is I am not getting any sound from the AVR. What happened?

[iiinas]

So I made some changes in my set up...Pio DV600 via coax to AVR for the audio and HDMI to the display.
I did the same thing for my PS3, HDMI to display and toslink to the AVR. The problems is I am not getting any sound from the AVR. What happened?

did you assign the digital inputs to the right input selector?

ie. v1 to coax1 or 2 or optical1 then v2 to coax 1 or 2 or optical1

[jeyps11_c]

did you assign the digital inputs to the right input selector?

ie. v1 to coax1 or 2 or optical1 then v2 to coax 1 or 2 or optical1

Not sure if I was able to do that and I don't know if I understand hehehe. v1 = video 1?

[iiinas]

Not sure if I was able to do that and I don't know if I understand hehehe. v1 = video 1?

yes, receivers usually have a couple of coax na da couple of optical digital audio inputs which you can assign to the video input selector. ie: dvd, video 1, video 2. because if assigned wrong, you may be using dvd video input for lets say as your hdmi 1, but for the audio it was set to output in hdmi too. you should reassign it to the audio input you use for the device.

[Huddaf]

yes, receivers usually have a couple of coax na da couple of optical digital audio inputs which you can assign to the video input selector. ie: dvd, video 1, video 2. because if assigned wrong, you may be using dvd video input for lets say as your hdmi 1, but for the audio it was set to output in hdmi too. you should reassign it to the audio input you use for the device.

Yup, your receivers input of digital sound processing is assignable. What's your receiver anyway?

[Tonteng]

Madami dito nakikita ganyan din scenario/setup  nila 

[goosebumps]

same situation here:

PS3 with HDMI and optical
LCD with HDMI
A/V receiver optical only

I want to have the best quality sound..how should i go?

[iiinas]

same situation here:

PS3 with HDMI and optical
LCD with HDMI
A/V receiver optical only

I want to have the best quality sound..how should i go?

ps3's hdmi out to lcd hdmi input

ps3's optical out to avr's optical input

then set your ps3 to bitstream the audio to let your receiver do the decoding of standard dolby digital and dts. 

[goosebumps]

ps3's hdmi out to lcd hdmi input

ps3's optical out to avr's optical input

then set your ps3 to bitstream the audio to let your receiver do the decoding of standard dolby digital and dts. 

thanks for the reply..

another scenario

PS3 with HDMI and optical
LCD with HDMI
A/V with HDMU out, and HDMI ports for DVD and DTC/CBL

how to achieve lossless audio?

[NADphyle]

makisakaya na rin

what do I do given the scenario

I want to use my HTib as a dvd player only as my old DVD player cannot upscale.

Problem is, the only audio out option is thru stereo coaxial.  Can DTS output be achieved thru stereo coaxial (analog) ? 

Meron sya digital kaya lang IN! from other sources.... labo no?

[iiinas]

makisakaya na rin

what do I do given the scenario

I want to use my HTib as a dvd player only as my old DVD player cannot upscale.

Problem is, the only audio out option is thru stereo coaxial.  Can DTS output be achieved thru stereo coaxial (analog) ? 

Meron sya digital kaya lang IN! from other sources.... labo no?

others can correct me, but i think this cant be done. since htibs are designed as an all-in-one thing. even if they can decode dts, it is assumed that you will use the amp section of the htib also. and having the digital in is a given for htibs, because if let's say you have another source like the wdtv/nmt, then you can use the digital in to decode dolby/dts from the wdtv/nmt source.

[disturbed]

^ given your scenario, sir iiinas is correct and covered all points +1 na lang ako