Author Topic: A few Panasonic Plasma Questions (Read 16013 times)

kakashi · « **Reply #90 on:** Feb 19, 2009 at 05:48 PM »

hmmmm...

havent seen it and i just installed a new light (very bright light) in my room

wonder whats causing it.... tama ka sir para ngang hidden 3d image, ehehehe

any specific setting your set was on when you noticed this?

i asked about the age of your unit thinking that it maybe something caused by extended use, but since your unit isnt even a year old, this is becoming more and more interesting

sardaukar · « **Reply #91 on:** Feb 19, 2009 at 06:09 PM »

Quote from: Carlo777 on Feb 19, 2009 at 01:25 PM

POST UPDATE:

YEAH! I can see it already on my PV8, I'll go down lang to check it sa PV80 (Nasa kids room kasi yung PV8). Bright surrounding on a blank HDMI input, grabe pati yun nakikita nyo I'll also check the PY800.

Stand-by=)

Thanks for checking! Since tatlo na tayong nakakakita, I'm not so worried anymore.

I haven't seen the green phosphor lag myself. Baka sobrang liwanag lang talaga ng kwarto ko, hehe.

sardaukar · « **Reply #92 on:** Feb 19, 2009 at 06:13 PM »

Quote from: kakashi on Feb 19, 2009 at 05:48 PM

hmmmm...

havent seen it and i just installed a new light (very bright light) in my room

wonder whats causing it.... tama ka sir para ngang hidden 3d image, ehehehe

any specific setting your set was on when you noticed this?

i asked about the age of your unit thinking that it maybe something caused by extended use, but since your unit isnt even a year old, this is becoming more and more interesting

Mahirap siyang makita with a fluorescent. Dapat daylight. No setting. Just a dark or blank screen.

kakashi · « **Reply #93 on:** Feb 19, 2009 at 06:31 PM »

ill try this weekend, i rarely catch the sun at home during weekends e, i leave for work early to avoid traffic

reynold · « **Reply #94 on:** Feb 19, 2009 at 08:09 PM »

Quote from: ninjababez on Feb 19, 2009 at 01:45 PM

ako nga di ko nakikita green phospor lag ..

curious din ako dito sa green phospor lag na 'to e, hehe pero nung one time parang may nakita ako sa isang scene sa transformers na parang pink but when i watch it again, wala na

will check my pv80 this weekend kung may chicken fence like image din... so far wala pa naman ako napapansin

kakashi · « **Reply #95 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 05:17 AM »

ok, so how do we see the green phospor lag?

i want to see if my units affected with that too

Clondalkin · « **Reply #96 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 08:46 AM »

Hey Guys, dont try to find something that you might not like. If you don't see it - great. Green phosphor lag should still be there. It's science. If the biggest players like Panasonic had already found an effective measure to alter the inherent chemical characteristics associated with the plasma cells, for sure they would have coined some cool sounding phrase to boast that - Turbo Green Excitation, Green Neutralizer, Excitation and Decay Equalizer, whatever.

kakashi · « **Reply #97 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 08:58 AM »

oh, so thats what it is, yeah, better not look for something that can be considered a defect, hehehe

anyways, im curious as to what causes that chickenwire thing is and why its visible

verde9 · « **Reply #98 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 09:10 AM »

my tv room lighting is not too bright, no windows just a glass sliding door on one side and walls on the other 3.
but I checked it with lights open (my lights are warm white) and still couldn't see it... I also tried changing the brightness and contrast.

anyways, do you only see the chicken wires on a blank screen or do you also see it while watching a movie?

joepaps · « **Reply #99 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 09:23 AM »

di ko rin makita sa pv8 ko ang chicken wires.

sardaukar · « **Reply #100 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM »

Quote from: verde9 on Feb 20, 2009 at 09:10 AM

my tv room lighting is not too bright, no windows just a glass sliding door on one side and walls on the other 3.
but I checked it with lights open (my lights are warm white) and still couldn't see it... I also tried changing the brightness and contrast.

anyways, do you only see the chicken wires on a blank screen or do you also see it while watching a movie?

It might be barely detectable in very dark scenes. And only if you're looking for it. Pag maliwanag na yung scene di na talaga kita. So it really doesn't bother me when I'm watching. Just also curious as to what it is and just making sure it's not a defect or something that will become a problem later on.

young_Miklo · « **Reply #101 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 02:04 PM »

ako naman i'm not looking for it. Kahit naka-off yung tv, kita ko pa rin yang "chicken wires" when i'm in front of the tv. noticed it the day i got the plasma, so I assumed na normal lang.

Carlo777 · « **Reply #102 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 02:09 PM »

Quote from: young_Miklo on Feb 20, 2009 at 02:04 PM

ako naman i'm not looking for it. Kahit naka-off yung tv, kita ko pa rin yang "chicken wires" when i'm in front of the tv. noticed it the day i got the plasma, so I assumed na normal lang.

Yup, it's there even when turned off.

sardaukar · « **Reply #103 on:** Feb 20, 2009 at 02:16 PM »

Hi Carlo! Were you able to see it in your other plasmas? Or is this a PV8 thing?

Carlo777 · « **Reply #104 on:** Feb 21, 2009 at 03:39 PM »

Quote from: sardaukar on Feb 20, 2009 at 02:16 PM

Hi Carlo! Were you able to see it in your other plasmas? Or is this a PV8 thing?

Ooops, forgot to check, we're busy with the Sony X450 but will check later

sardaukar · « **Reply #105 on:** Feb 21, 2009 at 04:07 PM »

Yes I was reading that thread as well and great review as always! Anytime you get around to it would be fine. I know what it's like to have a new gadget on hand. Particularly one like a Sony X series.

Carlo777 · « **Reply #106 on:** Feb 21, 2009 at 04:20 PM »

Quote from: sardaukar on Feb 21, 2009 at 04:07 PM

Yes I was reading that thread as well and great review as always! Anytime you get around to it would be fine. I know what it's like to have a new gadget on hand. Particularly one like a Sony X series.

Thanks! Anyway I think our "chicken wire" issue is normal because I remember seeing it even when the unit is off^

ninjababez® · « **Reply #107 on:** Feb 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Feb 20, 2009 at 08:46 AM

Hey Guys, dont try to find something that you might not like. If you don't see it - great. Green phosphor lag should still be there. It's science. If the biggest players like Panasonic had already found an effective measure to alter the inherent chemical characteristics associated with the plasma cells, for sure they would have coined some cool sounding phrase to boast that - Turbo Green Excitation, Green Neutralizer, Excitation and Decay Equalizer, whatever.

yeah the only thing that bothers me now is the size, i want a 50" now!

ninjababez® · « **Reply #108 on:** Feb 22, 2009 at 11:33 AM »

Quote from: Carlo777 on Feb 19, 2009 at 01:48 PM

You're lucky man! Check out my ramblings sa PLASMA vs LCD thread!

yeah i read those too ..

lahat ata ng thread naguusap tayo eh

crxs07 · « **Reply #109 on:** Mar 03, 2009 at 03:09 PM »

i have a plan of buying this panasonic pv8, this thread really helps..thanks to all the feebacks.keep it coming!

tonio1011 · « **Reply #110 on:** Mar 03, 2009 at 08:35 PM »

Quote from: crxs07 on Mar 03, 2009 at 03:09 PM

i have a plan of buying this panasonic pv8, this thread really helps..thanks to all the feebacks.keep it coming!

You wont regret buying one.. I just bought this pv8 2 weeks ago and im very satisfied. Cable viewing
is very clear.. Gaming is crystal clear as well on both PS2 and PS3!

Carlo777 · « **Reply #111 on:** Mar 04, 2009 at 11:55 PM »

Quote from: sardaukar on Feb 20, 2009 at 02:16 PM

Hi Carlo! Were you able to see it in your other plasmas? Or is this a PV8 thing?

Hmmm...I can't see it on my PY800, maybe gabi na kasi and duling na ako=)

Will check again tom.

riza21 · « **Reply #112 on:** Mar 05, 2009 at 01:16 PM »

Plano po namin to buy a plasma. Do we really need to do the break-in? The info we get sa net is conflicting sabi ng iba hindi na daw. Yung iba naman it's really needed naman. I know this has been asked so many times already so sorry for the question.

kakashi · « **Reply #113 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06 AM »

hmmm, well, it depends ata e, after the break in kase saka lalabas un kagandahan ng panel mo, so its not like you have to force yourself, or leave the set open for 100 hrs, its accumulative too, so as long as you regularly use it, it will eventually break in =)

hope this helps!

Carlo777 · « **Reply #114 on:** Mar 19, 2009 at 07:24 PM »

Quote from: sardaukar on Feb 20, 2009 at 02:16 PM

Hi Carlo! Were you able to see it in your other plasmas? Or is this a PV8 thing?

Sorry for the late reply but yes both the PV8 and 80 has it, the py800 has it on a lesser extent.

Verdict: I guess it's normal

sardaukar · « **Reply #115 on:** Mar 19, 2009 at 11:05 PM »

Quote from: Carlo777 on Mar 19, 2009 at 07:24 PM

Sorry for the late reply but yes both the PV8 and 80 has it, the py800 has it on a lesser extent.

Verdict: I guess it's normal

Thanks Carlo!

crxs07 · « **Reply #116 on:** Mar 20, 2009 at 03:49 PM »

recently bought a pana pv80, but ive been reading this topic before ko pa binili.

During my first try of the unit i already notice this problem. pag black un background and me reflection from the wdo, me parang criss-cross pattern nga.

Quote from: sardaukar on Jan 29, 2009 at 03:18 PM

Me too. My room is not completely dark and I was worried regarding all the discussion about reflections. I got a plasma anyway and if it turned out to be really bad I was prepared to black out part of the window. It turns out it wasn't any worse than the CRT I'd been using for several years. I can live with it for the most part. If not, I just wait for it to get late in the afternoon or evening before I start watching movies. It's only really apparent with dark movies.

I have a plasma question though. Has anyone noticed those diagonal criss-cross patterns on the screen? Parang steelwire fence yung pattern. It's barely visible and only when it's off or the image is really dark--and even then only if you're really looking. Or is that just me? I have a pv8.

crxs07 · « **Reply #117 on:** Mar 20, 2009 at 04:52 PM »

Mga Sir,

could anyone pls share their settings during the first 100 hours break in period? Im only watching dvds, no catv attached to my pv80.

saka kun di na kalabisan un calibration po after 100hrs.

paki pm nalang po. all feedbacks will be highly appreciated!

many thanks!

barrister · « **Reply #118 on:** Mar 21, 2009 at 08:35 PM »

Quote from: crxs07 on Mar 20, 2009 at 03:49 PM

recently bought a pana pv80, but ive been reading this topic before ko pa binili.

During my first try of the unit i already notice this problem. pag black un background and me reflection from the wdo, me parang criss-cross pattern nga.

Has anybody explained this issue yet?

I can't answer it with accuracy because I haven't seen it yet. My Viera is an old model, and it definitely does not have the crosshatch pattern issue.

Panasonic has no official statement on the matter yet. But I did find some foreign user posts that give a reasonable explanation:

The crosshatch pattern is normal. It is a side-effect of the screen's anti-reflective coating.

The anti-reflective coating is supposed to reduce glare when there is a bright light in the room that shines on the screen. The coating does reduce glare, but the side-effect is a faint crosshatch pattern. Therefore, the anti-reflective coating is not very useful.

If your screen has an anti-reflective coating:

1. If there is an external bright light, glare is reduced, but there is a crosshatch pattern.
2. If there is no external bright light, there is no crosshatch pattern; but then, the anti-reflective coating would not have been necessary.

sardaukar · « **Reply #119 on:** Mar 21, 2009 at 10:12 PM »

Nope, nobody has given an explanation yet. Thanks for digging up the answer for us!