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About MKV
« on: May 17, 2009 at 12:39 PM »
Newbie question here....
Just want to know more about the mkv format and where to get these video files...
Are they downloadable?

Thanks guys...


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Re: About MKV
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009 at 01:33 AM »
ako din question mga bossing

bakit nagsstutter/naghahang ang playback ng mkv
when im using bsplayer on my pc
as well as ps3mediaserver on my hdtv?

how can i resolve this stuttering thing?

does it have anything to do with the performance of my pc?

tia ;)

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009 at 05:23 PM »
@Louie_18: Sa torrent sites at warez forums mo madodownload yon.

@jireckpuge: Kelangan mataas ang specs ng PC mo. Mga around Intel Core 2 Duo pati Video Card mo dapat may Nvidia Pure Video Technology.

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009 at 08:27 PM »
tnx crusher
narealize ko nangangarap lang pla ako
core duo lng gamit ko e hehe  ;D

pro kahit b sa ps3 media server un din ung reason?
dahil hindi ako naka core2duo?
tnx again ;)

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009 at 10:38 PM »
ako din question mga bossing

bakit nagsstutter/naghahang ang playback ng mkv
when im using bsplayer on my pc
as well as ps3mediaserver on my hdtv?

how can i resolve this stuttering thing?

does it have anything to do with the performance of my pc?

tia ;)

if you are playing mkv files on your PC you should have the right codec for this version... and play w/ VLC player....  :o  ;D
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Re: About MKV
« Reply #5 on: Jun 01, 2009 at 12:10 PM »
or you can use KMplayer + special sauce for smooth MKV viewing.

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #6 on: Sep 22, 2009 at 12:10 PM »
does mkv files have dts or dd? or is it available for regular .avi files too?

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #7 on: Sep 22, 2009 at 02:32 PM »
Yes, it has DTS and DD depending on the source. Yes, it can play .avi files.

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #8 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 05:26 PM »
please refer to the discussions here HTPC

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #9 on: Nov 09, 2009 at 08:48 AM »
ako din question mga bossing

bakit nagsstutter/naghahang ang playback ng mkv
when im using bsplayer on my pc
as well as ps3mediaserver on my hdtv?

how can i resolve this stuttering thing?

does it have anything to do with the performance of my pc?

tia ;)

I you really want your MKVs to look great on your PS3 you are better off demuxing the MKV files using MKV2VOB. It takes a few seconds to convert a 1GB file on my Pentium IV(!). The converted file can then be played on your PS3 via any FAT32 USB storage device.

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #10 on: Nov 10, 2009 at 10:42 AM »

Mga Masters,

Newbie alert here..  :) 
(although i signed up years ago, seems either the site or I forgot my login/pw before.. ???)

Anyway, question about MKVs..

Tried one bec i was curious..

it plays on all my 3 PCs.. even on my old laptop..

My latest and fastest (dual core) PC have a VC that is HD/1080p ready (Radeon HD3600) w/ HDMI port..

Question #1.. does having that faster PC with HD VC make a difference at all? I know it might be a silly question, since my undiscerning eyes cant tell the diff.. they both look fine to me.. does the VC help at all? or is it bec i only use an ordinary 15" lcd monitor for the PC (and a 15" lcd laptop monitor).

Question #2.. if i connect my PC to a 32" LCD (i dont have one yet, planning to buy SOON) using the HDMI connection, will that MKV playback as HD/ Bluray quality? would it be BETTER than a (regular) DVD playing thru HD DVD thru HDMI cable?

Question #3.. in relation to Q#2.. would a cheap HDMI cable accomplish same or comparable results? To be able to connect my PC w/c is about 6 feet away from my TV cabinet to the LCD TV, i would need a long HDMI cable, and they have a CHEAP one in CDRKing that is long enough. I shudder to think how a branded HDMI cable that long would cost...  ;D

thanks in advance for any replies....

 

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #11 on: Nov 10, 2009 at 12:15 PM »
Mga Masters,

Newbie alert here..  :)  
(although i signed up years ago, seems either the site or I forgot my login/pw before.. ???)

Anyway, question about MKVs..

Tried one bec i was curious..

it plays on all my 3 PCs.. even on my old laptop..

My latest and fastest (dual core) PC have a VC that is HD/1080p ready (Radeon HD3600) w/ HDMI port..

Question #1.. does having that faster PC with HD VC make a difference at all? I know it might be a silly question, since my undiscerning eyes cant tell the diff.. they both look fine to me.. does the VC help at all? or is it bec i only use an ordinary 15" lcd monitor for the PC (and a 15" lcd laptop monitor).

Question #2.. if i connect my PC to a 32" LCD (i dont have one yet, planning to buy SOON) using the HDMI connection, will that MKV playback as HD/ Bluray quality? would it be BETTER than a (regular) DVD playing thru HD DVD thru HDMI cable?

Question #3.. in relation to Q#2.. would a cheap HDMI cable accomplish same or comparable results? To be able to connect my PC w/c is about 6 feet away from my TV cabinet to the LCD TV, i would need a long HDMI cable, and they have a CHEAP one in CDRKing that is long enough. I shudder to think how a branded HDMI cable that long would cost...  ;D

thanks in advance for any replies....

 

1. im not sure about this... but i think vc would help....

2.  it would definitely be better than dvd quality.. it will have hd resolution.. i suggest getting an lcd which supports PC in..i just hooked mine to my lcd last weekend. and PC in is definitely sharper than hdmi in.. but then again.. my mac didnt have hdmi out.. just dvi out.. so i opted to use vga cable.. its technically the same as playing mkv's sa mga network media tanks... basically you have a working HTPC..

3.  signals are digital.. so basically its the same as expensive and cheap.. but be wary of the cables.. meron kasing 1.1, 1.2, 1.3.... think of it as versions... the latter the better and more support for newer tech ...   cdr king works well with me too...  altho there was a time when i used it to display 1080p on my tv via ps3.. and there were artifacts.. (noise).. i just had them replaced sa cdrking.. and ok na...
« Last Edit: Nov 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM by Waxx »

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #12 on: Nov 10, 2009 at 10:07 PM »

1. im not sure about this... but i think vc would help....

2.  it would definitely be better than dvd quality.. it will have hd resolution.. i suggest getting an lcd which supports PC in..i just hooked mine to my lcd last weekend. and PC in is definitely sharper than hdmi in.. but then again.. my mac didnt have hdmi out.. just dvi out.. so i opted to use vga cable.. its technically the same as playing mkv's sa mga network media tanks... basically you have a working HTPC..

3.  signals are digital.. so basically its the same as expensive and cheap.. but be wary of the cables.. meron kasing 1.1, 1.2, 1.3.... think of it as versions... the latter the better and more support for newer tech ...   cdr king works well with me too...  altho there was a time when i used it to display 1080p on my tv via ps3.. and there were artifacts.. (noise).. i just had them replaced sa cdrking.. and ok na...

@Waxx,

   thanks for the reply and advice... some comments and further clarifications if you dont mind.. :)



VGA vs HDMI cables:

I think most if not all the current LCD TVs now have PC in (at least the ones Ive been looking at). Im surprised that PC in is better than HDMI?  Problem is to get a Monitor cable long enough to cover the 6-8 feet distance between my PC and TV Cabinet (thats why using CDRKing's HDMI cable of 5 meters was my plan) I guess i can connect 2 or 3 VGA cables (those that have both male ends) using VGA connector (also from CDRKing). Just not sure if connecting it this way will affect the signal. Btw, what LCD TV did you connect your PC to, and how long is your cable?

Branded vs china-made or cheaper HDMI cables:

  Wow. You took a load off my mind. I've heard some discouraging remarks about using CDRKing HDMI cables or other "inferior" cables (like Devant's daw). They say it causes "signal loss" bec of the type of wire they use. Is there any credence to this, or as you say, signal is digital so it shouldnt matter? Then I see how much Monster Cable cost and it makes me cringe.  :)  So i can look forward to just using the cheap CDRking cable and expect Bluray-quality playback if I play mkv files?  Ane even better if using VGA cable?

Video Card with HD

 I havent tried it yet and havent confirmed it elsewhere, but i expect/hope it does make a diff.. but probably only with a true LCD TV and not the standard LCD PC monitor I use. The VC specs say it has HD Techology with Built-in HDMI with 5.1 Surround Sound. It even has a "Before and After" image of a frame without and with ATI Avivo HD.

 And I just realized something when I took out the VC box to check the specs.. it doesnt say 1080p capable. My old mobo ECS-780g has a built in IGP that clearly states it can do 1080p and presents itself as a HTPC solution. But my PC got flooded in Ondoy so I had to buy a new mobo and I opted to get a separate VC instead (Radeon 3600). Its faster than the IGP one in terms of 3D engine but as I said I just noticed it apparently doesnt do 1080p (doesnt say it does anyway) dammit....
« Last Edit: Nov 10, 2009 at 10:26 PM by kyleryner »

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #13 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 01:37 AM »
@Waxx,

   thanks for the reply and advice... some comments and further clarifications if you dont mind.. :)



VGA vs HDMI cables:

I think most if not all the current LCD TVs now have PC in (at least the ones Ive been looking at). Im surprised that PC in is better than HDMI?  Problem is to get a Monitor cable long enough to cover the 6-8 feet distance between my PC and TV Cabinet (thats why using CDRKing's HDMI cable of 5 meters was my plan) I guess i can connect 2 or 3 VGA cables (those that have both male ends) using VGA connector (also from CDRKing). Just not sure if connecting it this way will affect the signal. Btw, what LCD TV did you connect your PC to, and how long is your cable?

Branded vs china-made or cheaper HDMI cables:

  Wow. You took a load off my mind. I've heard some discouraging remarks about using CDRKing HDMI cables or other "inferior" cables (like Devant's daw). They say it causes "signal loss" bec of the type of wire they use. Is there any credence to this, or as you say, signal is digital so it shouldnt matter? Then I see how much Monster Cable cost and it makes me cringe.  :)  So i can look forward to just using the cheap CDRking cable and expect Bluray-quality playback if I play mkv files?  Ane even better if using VGA cable?

Video Card with HD

 I havent tried it yet and havent confirmed it elsewhere, but i expect/hope it does make a diff.. but probably only with a true LCD TV and not the standard LCD PC monitor I use. The VC specs say it has HD Techology with Built-in HDMI with 5.1 Surround Sound. It even has a "Before and After" image of a frame without and with ATI Avivo HD.

 And I just realized something when I took out the VC box to check the specs.. it doesnt say 1080p capable. My old mobo ECS-780g has a built in IGP that clearly states it can do 1080p and presents itself as a HTPC solution. But my PC got flooded in Ondoy so I had to buy a new mobo and I opted to get a separate VC instead (Radeon 3600). Its faster than the IGP one in terms of 3D engine but as I said I just noticed it apparently doesnt do 1080p (doesnt say it does anyway) dammit....



1. vga cables comes in 5m 10m 15m 20m... i used 10m on mine.. coz my pc/mac is at the back near my av.. so dont worry.. oh yeah.. i bought it at gilmore.. 400 pesos for 10m... but take note ha... there are low res vs hi res vga cable....so make sure to get the high res one... i got the low rest by mistake and my lcd displayed 800x600... good thing i was able to change it to a hi res one 1920x1080 (capable of 1600x1200 i believe) my tv is a us sammy series 6. i myself was surprised that pc in is better than hdmi.. or maybe coz the mac im using has a weak vid card and doesnt maximize 1080p resolutions.... i dunno with other users tho... so i cant really verify this for you....

2. digital is digital signal... 1s and 0s... thats it.. monster cables are more of overhyped marketing.. thats why its costs a kidney.. kumbaga.. kung makakaloko at makakalusot.. why not.. since mayayaman daw naman ang mga may home theater....  as for the signal loss with cheaper cables.. i think its coz of the version... i myself probably got an earlier version cdr king hdmi cable then.. so when i tried it 1080p.. there were artifacts.. but on 720.. no problem.. so i exchanged it.. and voila.. it was ok...

3. i cant answer much on the hdmi capable vga card.. coz i myself havent used one... but i believe you wont have a problem with yours... hdmi is more of technology for consumer electronics.. and not IT stuff.. so i would think na it would support resolutions without any problems...


i hope ive shed much light to your probs.. but na o off topic na tayo e..

so to get back on topic..

mkv = hd/bluray...

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #14 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 07:39 AM »

@waxx

   thanks again so much for the clarifications.. its been most helpful.

 
Quote
so to get back on topic..

mkv = hd/bluray..
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oo nga ..na off-topic na yata... my apologies. :) (already inquired related topic elsewhere para nga di OT)

Main question answered is mkv = hd/bluray,  meaning i can get equivalent of bluray playback using VGA or HDMIcables (assuming mkv files are available).

A simple, on topic question about MKVs that is the culmination of the above queries is:

If I put 2 identical LCD TVs in front of you, one playing from a Bluray player and another playing an MKV file of the same movie from a PC and you cant see the cables and player/PC... would you be able to tell the difference?


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Re: About MKV
« Reply #15 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 07:50 AM »
@waxx

   thanks again so much for the clarifications.. its been most helpful.

  .

oo nga ..na off-topic na yata... my apologies. :) (already inquired related topic elsewhere para nga di OT)

Main question answered is mkv = hd/bluray,  meaning i can get equivalent of bluray playback using VGA or HDMIcables (assuming mkv files are available).

A simple, on topic question about MKVs that is the culmination of the above queries is:

If I put 2 identical LCD TVs in front of you, one playing from a Bluray player and another playing an MKV file of the same movie from a PC and you cant see the cables and player/PC... would you be able to tell the difference?



really depends on the file you are playing, is it a 720p file or is it a 1080p file. if its a 720p, i think the bluray will still be a couple of notches better.

with a 1080p file, i am pretty sure some will still say bluray is still better. but having seen both on a giant screen, its really pretty close, if you are not looking for faults, i dont think you would even know the difference.  :)

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #16 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 10:24 AM »
only the trained eye can see...


mkv is more compressed... both sound and image (thats why 720  mkvs are usually 4-6gb in size and 1080 are 8-12gb in size, whilst a bluray is around 15-30gb in size?<citation needed>))... some people wont be able to see the difference... (depending on the encoder na ginamit) some people can (depende din sa mata nila)... i myself dont see the difference at a certain distance.. but now whenever i play ps3 and go really close to the screen.. i could see pixels and jaggies.... but thats around 1-1.5ft away from my lcd.. and i really cant play when im that close... so i go back around 5-6ft.. wala na ang pixels.. ;D

ganito ang simpliest analogy dyan...

its like... cd vs mp3... may mga kbps kbps para sa quality diba remember?

if you would play cd vs mp3 side by side... some would notice the difference (usually audiophiles), others wont (mainstream)...

here's a reference pic to answer your question... here's is pixar's up source vs mkv encode:





click on thumbnails for fullscreen view.. and the pics with the green texts are the encodes..
« Last Edit: Nov 11, 2009 at 10:31 AM by Waxx »

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #17 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM »

@iiinas and Waxx,

  Tnx again for the inputs..

  I clicked on those thumbnails in 2 tabs, positioned them in the same way and switched tabs between the 2 and the screen didnt even blink except the green text showed up, so looks identical to me  :)

 
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  (thats why 720  mkvs are usually 4-6gb in size and 1080 are 8-12gb in size, whilst a bluray is around 15-30gb in size?<citation needed>))

   Hmm really?  I have 1 1/2 hour 3D animated film in mkv.. file says its 720p but its only 1.4 gig in size.

Info below.

* RuNTiME:....: 1h 34mn
* ViDEo.Q:....: Matroska,2-pass,AVC
* ViDEo.BiT:..: 1.641 Kbps
* ViDEo.REs:..: 1.280 x 544  [2.35:1]
* ViDEo.Fps:..: 23.976 fps
* AuDio.TyPE:.: AC-3
* AuDio.BiT:..: 384 Kbps
* AuDio.MoDE:.: 6 channels
* AuDio.S.R:..: 48.0 KHz
* SizE:.......: 1.36 GiB


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Re: About MKV
« Reply #18 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM »
hmmm interesting...

mine kasi always reaches 4gb e...3-4gb actually...

anong movie yan?  ;D

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #19 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 04:57 PM »
Guys,  mkv is a container file, it's not a compression format.  As a container file format, it can hold a wide variety of compressed audio and video files as well as subtitles in one file.  For HD, it often contains  H.264/AVC compressed files.  There are downloadable mkv files as large as BD originals at 30-45GB on a one-to-one-conversion,  It compresses very efficiently that even at half the bitrate of m2ts Blu-ray files (also a container file containing h.264/AVC or VC-1 compressed video), you still get gorgeous images that are better than your standard DVDs.  

BTW, image quality has little to do with resolution.  Video quality hinges on bitrates, not whether its 720p or 1080p or SD.  You can even have 1080p files fit in a standard DVD5 with less than 2 GB file size.  It's all about bitrates.  Remember those pirated DVDs 3-4 years ago with crappy images?  Check their bitrates and you'll get something like 1-3mbps when the originals have 4-6mps bitrates.  Consequently a 480 movie meant for DVD9 could fit in a DVD5 a half their original bitrates.   Same with 1080 HD.  Most downloaded mkv files use H.264 with variable bitrates that are set below the 30-45mbps bitrates in Blu-ray discs.  Even a 1080p file can just have 4GB file size or lower because the encoder was set at low variable bitrate encoding.  But thanks to the wonderful H.264 encoding algorithm, you may not discern quality difference in some materials or in most scenes, especially those with static or slow moving ones.  But it can be discernible in fast moving scenes.    And often not discernible in screens 32" and below.  But that's just my eyes.  ;D

Also, pls note that VGA is analog and most high end PCs especially those used in graphics or video editing workstations use DVI connection. With VGA connection, the PC will convert its native digital video signals to analog first before passing over the VGA cable.  At the other end, the LCD screen will convert your analog signals to digital.  So you can expect some signal losses in the process.  Just go digital all the way for video.   HDMI is DVI plus digital audio.  



If I put 2 identical LCD TVs in front of you, one playing from a Bluray player and another playing an MKV file of the same movie from a PC and you cant see the cables and player/PC... would you be able to tell the difference?


It depends on the bitrates.  If the mkv file has the same bitrate, you won't.  But there's a good chance, depending on the material,  you won't see any difference even at lower bitrates, say 15mbps, especially if the LCD TVs are 32" and below viewed 6 feet away.  
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Re: About MKV
« Reply #20 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 05:13 PM »
Guys,  mkv is a container file, it's not a compression format.  As a container file format, it can hold a wide variety of compressed audio and video files as well as subtitles in one file.  For HD, it often contains  H.264/AVC compressed files.  There are downloadable mkv files as large as BD originals at 30-45GB on a one-to-one-conversion,  It compresses very efficiently that even at half the bitrate of m2ts Blu-ray files (also a container file containing h.264/AVC or VC-1 compressed video), you still get gorgeous images that are better than your standard DVDs.  

BTW, image quality has little to do with resolution.  Video quality hinges on bitrates, not whether its 720p or 1080p or SD.  You can even have 1080p files fit in a standard DVD5 with less than 2 GB file size.  It's all about bitrates.  Remember those pirated DVDs 3-4 years ago with crappy images?  Check their bitrates and you'll get something like 1-3mbps when the originals have 4-6mps bitrates.  Consequently a 480 movie meant for DVD9 could fit in a DVD5 a half their original bitrates.   Same with 1080 HD.  Most downloaded mkv files use H.264 with variable bitrates that are set below the 30-45mbps bitrates in Blu-ray discs.  Even a 1080p file can just have 4GB file size or lower because the encoder was set at low variable bitrate encoding.  But thanks to the wonderful H.264 encoding algorithm, you may not discern quality difference in some materials or in most scenes, especially those with static or slow moving ones.  But it can be discernible in fast moving scenes.    And often not discernible in screens 32" and below.  But that's just my eyes.  ;D

Also, pls note that VGA is analog and most high end PCs especially those used in graphics or video editing workstations use DVI connection. With VGA connection, the PC will convert its native digital video signals to analog first before passing over the VGA cable.  At the other end, the LCD screen will convert your analog signals to digital.  So you can expect some signal losses in the process.  Just go digital all the way for video.   HDMI is DVI plus digital audio.  

It depends on the bitrates.  If the mkv file has the same bitrate, you won't.  But there's a good chance, depending on the material,  you won't see any difference even at lower bitrates, say 15mbps, especially if the LCD TVs are 32" and below viewed 5 feet away. 

this is the perfect explanation of what the mkv is.. pasensya na sa explanation ko.. medyo i wanted to interpret it in laymans terms e.. mali na pala ang interpretasyon ko.. i stand corrected as always...

bitrate is the key..

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #21 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM »
@av_phile,

  wow.. info overload ! ;D

  I had to read that post 3-4 times, but I think i'm getting the general idea..

  whew! so much to learn by a newbie about all this HD stuff.. but im lovin it!  ;D

  btw, I saw a file in piratebay named HDTV test files (v1.7). its 1.6 gb files and contain the ff:

 00019.m2ts (Interlace)
03.split.5.ts (DTS-HD)
720p16rf-001.mkv
Avalon.split.34.m2ts (real TrueHD)
Casino.21.mkv (avg. bitrate 21Mbps)
Casino.32.mkv (avg. bitrate 32Mbps)
Casino.42.mkv (avg. bitrate 42Mbps)
Casino.50.m2ts (video bitrate >40Mbps)
Casino.50.mkv (video bitrate >40Mbps)
Casino.Royale.BDrip.1080p.SPLIT-004.mkv
Deinterlace.m2ts
H264_TrueHD.m2ts
Satoyama.II.Japan.Secret.Water.Garden.1080p.rus.-002.mkv
TheBankJob-sample-16rf.mkv (1080p 16Ref.frames)
Transporter 3.2008.BD.Remux.1080p.h264.Rus.Eng.Commentary-002.mkv
VC-1_Sub.mkv
hns-fc-new-002.mkv (1080p 16Ref.frames)
ovescan_geometry.mkv
twin.peaks.s01e01.sample-007.mkv
subs (ASS/SSA/SRT/SUB subtitles samples, rus)

I hope its ok to mention it here, since theyre just clips and not really whole p*rated movies... :)

As the name implies, its for testing mkv files...

Havent dl'd it myself, seeds seems low and it might take days, not sure i know what to do with those files yet anyway (being a newbie and all)  Just thought i'd share  :)
« Last Edit: Nov 12, 2009 at 11:08 AM by iiinas »

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #22 on: Nov 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM »

btw, just to add...

re: bitrates,  does it say anywhere here in the nfo file what the bitrate is?

* RuNTiME:....: 1h 34mn
* ViDEo.Q:....: Matroska,2-pass,AVC
* ViDEo.BiT:..: 1.641 Kbps
* ViDEo.REs:..: 1.280 x 544  [2.35:1]
* ViDEo.Fps:..: 23.976 fps
* AuDio.TyPE:.: AC-3
* AuDio.BiT:..: 384 Kbps
* AuDio.MoDE:.: 6 channels
* AuDio.S.R:..: 48.0 KHz
* SizE:.......: 1.36 GiB


Is it the Video Bit?  1.641 Kbps? it couldnt be right? its too low?

Dont see it either if I check in VLC (Tools-> Codec Info) 

And I dont see it either in GSpot 2.70 (it doesnt even give info on mkv files..)

How to check it?




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Re: About MKV
« Reply #23 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 01:23 AM »
Yes, you are right, the 1.641 kbps is the video bit rate (kilo bit per second)


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Re: About MKV
« Reply #24 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 08:47 AM »

1. vga cables comes in 5m 10m 15m 20m... i used 10m on mine.. coz my pc/mac is at the back near my av.. so dont worry.. oh yeah.. i bought it at gilmore.. 400 pesos for 10m... but take note ha... there are low res vs hi res vga cable....so make sure to get the high res one... i got the low rest by mistake and my lcd displayed 800x600... good thing i was able to change it to a hi res one 1920x1080 (capable of 1600x1200 i believe) my tv is a us sammy series 6. i myself was surprised that pc in is better than hdmi.. or maybe coz the mac im using has a weak vid card and doesnt maximize 1080p resolutions.... i dunno with other users tho... so i cant really verify this for you....

:o :o :o what shop bro?  :) sensya na natuwa ako sa price eh  :)
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Re: About MKV
« Reply #25 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 08:55 AM »
:o :o :o what shop bro?  :) sensya na natuwa ako sa price eh  :)

gilmore... dami dun.. but my friend's shop there is PC house... katabi ng pizzahut.. (which we call pchut!)

puro PC kasi ang name ng shops dun e.. PC corner; PC express, PC hub, PC depot,

basta remember to ask for HI RES ha!! my friend initially gave me the LOW RES one.. it was priced even cheaper.. at 250pesoses....

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #26 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 10:46 AM »
There is another "school of MKV thought" that I read about every now and then - and with all due respect, it states

If you cannot distinguish between 720p mkv, 1080p mkv and pure BD, then change your TV.

Agree with AV_Phile1, it's not the resolution but it's the bitrate.  So while there are 1080p mkvs, there are Eurekas, Esirs, Forms and HiDT prime encodes.  I also recall Gren posting that 1080p mkv are better not because of the higher resolution but because they simply look nicer.  In my case, I'd say the compression artifacts are visibly less on 1080p encodes and the color saturation appears to be richer.   Having said that, I still can distinguish between an excellent 1080p encode and the pure BD image - something is peculiarly different in terms of color saturation whether I use an HD CRT or an LCD or a Plasma.

BUT, and there is a BUT,

Based on tests conducted using Streetsmart's high-end system, it appears that is not the case.  My guess is, that sophisticated video processor of Streetsmart must be magical indeed - it's practically remastering a highly compressed video signal.   :)
 


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Re: About MKV
« Reply #27 on: Nov 15, 2009 at 01:15 AM »

can I ask a (hopefully) related question?

Since ive been canvassing lots of shops/TV models lately, many of the displays say they use "HD" or Hard Disk source.  I assumed this is something like those media centers or NMTs or devices like the PopCorn Hour I keep hearing about (and trying to know more).

I myself is only familiar with the standard PC files... avis, divx, xvids, and now recently, MKVs..

Im just curious.. those "hard disks" that they use... are they just computer files I assume, playable in PCs? Are they in AVI format or MKV format (that would be my guess). Are they big file sizes (equivalent to 20-40 gig for a regular movie as mentioned here, w/c would mean a couple of gigs just for a few minutes demo clip they use) or more like the kind of MKVs i mentioned.. 2 gigs for a movie so around a hundred megs or so for a few minutes...)  I know it has something to do with bitrates.. but would anyone happen to know in terms of file-sizes? Just curious around how big it would have to be to achieve that kind of clarity I saw in their demos.. (w/c btw, seems like a cheat to me..if the average non-techie buyer look at that display, if they dont ask around they might assume that when they watch on their DVD player or even HDMI player it would be that clear...)





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Re: About MKV
« Reply #28 on: Nov 16, 2009 at 02:59 PM »
I didn't know LCD TVs come with hard drives.  Those "HD" labels must mean High Definition, not hard disks. 

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Re: About MKV
« Reply #29 on: Nov 16, 2009 at 06:13 PM »

sir av_phile1, I believe what kyleryner meant was the source being used at the showrooms to demo HD movies.

I also asked some salesrep of Anson's & Abenson about this before and said that they play it indeed thru a hard disk driven media player that came fr. China and are not for sale. They will not tell if you wont ask about it and they usu. keep it away fr. buyers sight. This was I think 2 yrs. ago at the height of BD & HD dvd format war but now I can see a lot of shops using Blu-ray player anymore. And then these NMTs came out . . . sobrang dami naman ng encoding format ang lumabas.  ;D