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PANASONIC C-Series (42/50C10) Impressions
« on: May 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM »
Hi Guys,

Hope somebody would do a review of the new Panny 42C10.

Was looking for a 42PV80 but units were sold-out already.

The 42C10 might be a cheaper alternative to the 42PX10.

Comparison of the C10 to the PV80 & PX10 would be much appreciated, too.


42C10 at a glance:

TV Type: Plasma
Diagonal Screen Size: 42 inches
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Contrast Ratio: 2,000,000:1
Features:
600 hz sub-field drive
   SD card slot
   Viera link
   x.v color-ready
   1080p24 input-ready
   2x hdmi inputs
   v-audio surround
   optical av output
Dimensions: 661 x 1029 x 100 mm
Weight: 26 kg
Approx Php50K


Hi Carlo777/Comitatus,

Truly appreciate your reviews.

Hope the 42C10 merits a review from you guys, too!


Regards to all PDVDers!
« Last Edit: Jul 31, 2009 at 01:32 PM by francois »
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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009 at 02:23 PM »
Hi Guys,

Hope somebody would do a review of the new Panny 42C10.

Was looking for a 42PV80 but units were sold-out already.

The 42C10 might be a cheaper alternative to the 42PX10.

Comparison of the C10 to the PV80 & PX10 would be much appreciated, too.


42C10 at a glance:

TV Type: Plasma
Diagonal Screen Size: 42 inches
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Contrast Ratio: 2,000,000:1
Features:
600 hz sub-field drive
   SD card slot
   Viera link
   x.v color-ready
   1080p24 input-ready
   2x hdmi inputs
   v-audio surround
   optical av output
Dimensions: 661 x 1029 x 100 mm
Weight: 26 kg
Approx Php50K


Hi Carlo777/Comitatus,

Truly appreciate your reviews.

Hope the 42C10 merits a review from you guys, too!


Regards to all PDVDers!


Yes! It does merit a review and I'll post it this week.

Medyo mabagal tayo ngayon kasi, in truth, I'm not into the"hobby" anymore. Sawa na ng konti, but I still hang around to check out new stuff and to answer PM's.

This forum has been a wealth of info for me and I trust the views of the guys here, over the more "expert" reviews floating around the net (Initially, the expert reviews got me more confused) . I remember, when I joined Pdvd late last year, I didn't know jack about T.V's because watching movies was never my hobby to begin with. I was only looking for a good T.V for my PS3 and it lead to a very expensive quest ;)

Folks like, barrister, Clondalkin, ninjababez were very informative and helpful. Sellers from Theatreworks and Sights and Sounds are also people you can count on.

I'm impressed with these guys among others. God Bless^
« Last Edit: May 27, 2009 at 04:33 PM by Carlo777 »

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009 at 03:57 PM »
yup i'm also waiting for the review ng 42C10. dapat 3 weeks ago mabibil ko na sana ang 42PV80 kaso c misis pina-hold na muna ang bili ko. ayan wala na tuloy stock.... so i might go for this new model kung ok ang review....

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009 at 04:34 PM »
ako rin waiting for a local pdvd review.
here's what i've found on the net recently comparing the x10 and c10

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-televisions/992493-tx-p42x10-tx-p42c10.html

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009 at 04:39 PM »
You can test the unit at trinoma, by friday nandun na. ;)

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009 at 05:11 PM »
magkano price range nito jeff? thanks!
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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009 at 06:32 PM »
magkano price range nito jeff? thanks!

Sir, pa off topic lang sandali. Can you share your PV70 settings? (Via PM if possible)

Back to the C10, per spec, it's similar to the X10 but I'll have to see that for myself. It looks like the C10 is the new PV8 and the X10 is the new PV80. Will verify and confirm this within the week or so.

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009 at 03:39 PM »
C series


At A Glance

TV type Plasma 
Diagonal screen size 42 inch
Aspect ratio 16:9 
Dimensions (HxWxD) 661 x 1029 x 100 mm
Weight 26 kg
Contrast ratio 2000000:1 

General
TV typePlasma 
Diagonal screen size42 inch
Aspect ratio16:9 
Additional features600Hz sub-field drive; onboard JPEG playback via SD card slot; Viera Link (HDMI-CEC); x.v.Color-ready; 1080p24 input-ready; dual HDMI 1.3 inputs. 
Dimensions (HxWxD)661 x 1029 x 100 mm
Weight26 kgAudio
Surround effectsV-Audio. 
Total output power10W x 2 
Additional featuresOptical digital audio output. Video
Video inputS-video, VGA, Composite video, Component video 
Contrast ratio2000000:1 
Additional features1024 x 768 resolution; HD-compatible

this is the replacement unit of our late 42pv8. ;)

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009 at 03:55 PM »
sir bat parang di maganda review d2 sa net. masyado daw reflective walang "Natural Vision FilterAR".  e hanggang 50K lang budget ko for plasma tv.....  wahh di ko na alam bibilin ko tuloy. wala na nga pv80 tapos dami negative review pa sa C10....

guru's what's your comment on this.... thanks!


ako rin waiting for a local pdvd review.
here's what i've found on the net recently comparing the x10 and c10

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-televisions/992493-tx-p42x10-tx-p42c10.html

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009 at 04:22 PM »
sir bat parang di maganda review d2 sa net. masyado daw reflective walang "Natural Vision FilterAR".  e hanggang 50K lang budget ko for plasma tv.....  wahh di ko na alam bibilin ko tuloy. wala na nga pv80 tapos dami negative review pa sa C10....

guru's what's your comment on this.... thanks!



Hello sir!

All plasma units have a measure of "reflectiveness" regardless of brand and model. It's hard to make a spot judgement call, because tolerance for "reflectiveness' varies from one person to another. For me, plasma reflections have never been an issue, so it does not bother me. For the sake of your concern, I checked my PV70/80 and PY800 to see if there is a huge leap in the "anti-reflectiveness" evolution of the models I have, and to my surprise they all seem to be "reflective" one way or the other with very minimal differences.

The best way sir, is to go to Theatreworks, or Sights and Sounds, or wherever you feel most comfortable and see the unit for yourself. Just to gauge your tolerance of the "reflectiveness" of the C10.

Anyway, I'll check the unit out tomorrow and will post my findings.

Kung may tanong pa sir just post away=)


« Last Edit: May 30, 2009 at 01:53 AM by Carlo777 »

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009 at 02:26 PM »
Thanks Carlo!

Looking forward to your review!




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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009 at 02:34 PM »
magkano price range nito jeff? thanks!
ano nga ba price range nito? ty!
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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009 at 05:02 PM »
Thanks Carlo!

Looking forward to your review!






Saw it already and will do a full review later!

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2009 at 06:16 PM »
^ - ill also be looking forward to your review sir! thanks.

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009 at 06:34 PM »
can hardly wait for the review...

btw, saw the x10 a few days ago and i liked the colors...

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2009 at 10:44 PM »
The Panasonic 42C10:

Dvd/Blu-ray

We tested the DVD performance of the C10 using the new "Underworld 3: Rise of the Lycans" movie and we immediately observed the T.V's deep blacks and rich colors. For the most part, picture defenition remains clear and clean, screen uniformity was near perfect, as expected from a plasma. Blu-ray at 720p, playing "Transformers" was a total blast, fast moving scenes were handled with no traces of motion blur, pixelation, and picture breaks that are commonly associated with lower bracket LCD's. Over-all movie defenition was brighter than the previous models like the PV8/80, without compromising the inky blacks we've come to admire with Panasonic's line of plasma's.

PS3:

Running a 720p native game like "Street Fighter 4" demonstrated razor sharp input response times that will surely impress even the most "hard-core" precision savy gamers. As expected, I saw flashes of the notorious green trails (known to techies as "The Phosphor Lag") during quick pans of first person shooters like "Resistance". However, it won't derail your senses because the over-all picture presentation remains strong, with vibrant colors, less the eye strain - Something very much welcomed for those who would want to bed with their plasma's and their ps3's.

The PV8 and PV80 factor:

I, for one laments the demise of these two legendary models, but the arrival and the subsequent performance of the C10 gives you a feeling that Panasonic really knows how to come up with evolutionary means to sustain the technology in a sea of high tech wonders like the 120hz LCD, LED and OLED. Though the difference in picture quality between the C10 and the PV8/80 are not miles apart, the C10 is your best bet for a solid 720p performance - If you skipped the 2008 wonders. So let the PV8 and 80 (though legends they are) rest in the halls of Valhalla - A worthy successor has arrived! Did I mention that the C10 is only around 50k?

"But it's just a 720p T.V???" factor:

Sure, the C10 is a "mere" 720p native T.V tuned for a 1080p/24p performance, but I can honestly say that it beats the Samsung FULL HD A550 in the area of color accuracy and over-all movie picture performance. It even trumps above my A650 FULL HD T.V in-terms of black levels and screen uniformity. Not bad for a "mere" 720p T.V right? Crispy video game detail/s presentation, unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you look at it) still belongs to the FULL HD panels where pixel and polygon counts really matter.

Pro's
+Very good blacks
+Rich and vibrant colors without the "eye strain"
+Near perfect viewing angles
+Well priced

Con's
-The usual green trails
-Some minor image retention after video game play (I need to look at this again because my eyes were already tired from the test)
-Fuzzy game detail compared to FULL HD units like the A550,A650 and PY800.

More on this tomorrow, but so far the C10 is looking good from all angles that truly matter on a T.V ;) Sorry but this was one very quick typing spree^
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009 at 12:40 AM by Carlo777 »

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2009 at 08:03 AM »
Maraming salamat Carlo!

Truly appreciate the time & effort spent to accommodate this review!

Great help indeed!

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2009 at 02:04 PM »
If you dont know much about TVs and dont know what to look for, then Carlo777 will help you. His reviews are all about what to look for when you are aiming for your dream TV. There is so much advice here. He gives tips on what to look for when inspecting a TV, things to do on a test drive and so on. Written in simple to understand format, I highly recommend everyone to read his review before you make your final TV purchase. Comprehensive advice.  :D
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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2009 at 02:10 PM »
What exactly is the difference of this from the X series? Kasi almost 20k price difference between the two.

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009 at 02:22 PM »
If you dont know much about TVs and dont know what to look for, then Carlo777 will help you. His reviews are all about what to look for when you are aiming for your dream TV. There is so much advice here. He gives tips on what to look for when inspecting a TV, things to do on a test drive and so on. Written in simple to understand format, I highly recommend everyone to read his review before you make your final TV purchase. Comprehensive advice.  :D

Thanks vic!

What exactly is the difference of this from the X series? Kasi almost 20k price difference between the two.

I'll ask my wife to post the differences between the two. So far, picture wise, they look identical to me.

Got a number of PM's asking me how this fares against a PY800...

At a sudden glance you may notice that the C10 may look more "High Def" than the Full HD PY800, because of it's rich color defenition. However, a close examination will show that the PY800 has better defined details and for me, a more "refined" pq even over the C10.

Just my observation.

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2009 at 02:47 PM »
Initial Limited Introductory Stocks Available

Panasonic TH-P42C10 at 12 months P57250. Call for cash discount.

Units are selling very fast. Only a few units available. Re-stocking will come on next 2 weeks again.

Available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. Tel. 634-1789 to 90.

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2009 at 07:49 PM »
Regarding "reflectiveness", how does the C10 compares with the PV80 or the X10?

I understand it does not have the AR feature.

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2009 at 08:06 PM »
Regarding "reflectiveness", how does the C10 compares with the PV80 or the X10?

I understand it does not have the AR feature.

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It was difficult for me to simulate "reflectiveness" on the showroom floor, but as far as I remember, it was similar to the PV80. I could be wrong though...

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2009 at 08:59 PM »
thanks carlo. your review of this model is what finally seals the deal. im getting one! sa tagal kung pag antay ng pv8 or 80, may mas ok pa pala. ;D

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2009 at 11:03 PM »
thanks sir carlo. at first i was disappointed on not getting the PV80 last month pero after reading your review napaganda pa pala paghihintay ko. C10 here i come...

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2009 at 11:33 PM »
You're welcome, just check the "reflectiveness" of the model. I was not able to dig that one in detail.

« Last Edit: May 30, 2009 at 11:35 PM by Carlo777 »

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2009 at 12:12 AM »
ako rin waiting for a local pdvd review.
here's what i've found on the net recently comparing the x10 and c10

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-televisions/992493-tx-p42x10-tx-p42c10.html

Reading the comparison in this avsforum made me fall asleep... There's no need to go thru all 12 pages of it..  Instead of the usual detailed comparison of features and reviews, it just boiled down to a "screen reflection issue" debate between the 2 models...

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2009 at 12:37 AM »
Reading the comparison in this avsforum made me fall asleep... There's no need to go thru all 12 pages of it..  Instead of the usual detailed comparison of features and reviews, it just boiled down to a "screen reflection issue" debate between the 2 models...



I was just reading the thread, and yes it seems to veer towards the reflection issue of the C10. My advise for people who are interested in the model, would be to check the unit out for yourselves and see if the lack of the A.R feature is acceptable for you.

Do take note I was never bothered by plasma's screen reflection, even way back with my first encounter with a plasma, which was a very "reflective" panny px500.

« Last Edit: Jun 17, 2009 at 03:45 AM by Carlo777 »

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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2009 at 12:53 AM »
I was just reading thread, and yes it seems to veer towards the reflection issue of the C10. My advise for people who are interested in the model, would be to check the unit out for yourselves and see if the lack of the A.R feature is acceptable for you.

Do take note I was never bothered by plasma's screen reflection, even way back with my first encounter with a plasma, which was a very "reflective" panny px500.



Likewise sir with my older pv70 ;)
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Re: PANASONIC C-Series (42C10) Impressions
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2009 at 01:10 AM »
Likewise sir with my older pv70 ;)

I'm sorry for the off topic post and I hope people here can forgive me, but since you're a proud owner of a PV70 (which I'am too). Would you be kind enough to send me a PM of your settings for DVD use.

Thank you.

Anyway, I don't want the topic to be a C10 "screen reflection" issue thread, so I would like to stress that there are issues I encounter on "other" technologies, that are far worse than seeing an "image" of myself on-screen :D
« Last Edit: Jun 01, 2009 at 02:51 AM by Carlo777 »