Author Topic: Atheism/Agnosticism in the Philippines (Read 85015 times)

tigkal · « **Reply #1140 on:** Aug 04, 2014 at 02:39 PM »

Napanood ko sa TV about experiment sa weight of a dying person. According to the experiment after a person dies, the weight of the body loses 2 ounces.. That was the weight of the soul daw. However it was not validated. Some would like to repeat the experiment, however the catholic church is against the study. Maybe the church knows something that the rest do not know? Because maybe there was no change in weight after all.

Quitacet · « **Reply #1141 on:** Aug 04, 2014 at 02:55 PM »

Quote from: tigkal on Aug 04, 2014 at 02:39 PM

Napanood ko sa TV about experiment sa weight of a dying person. According to the experiment after a person dies, the weight of the body loses 2 ounces.. That was the weight of the soul daw. However it was not validated. Some would like to repeat the experiment, however the catholic church is against the study. Maybe the church knows something that the rest do not know? Because maybe there was no change in weight after all.

nasa libro ni Dan Brown to. The Lost Symbol

heisenbergman · « **Reply #1142 on:** Aug 04, 2014 at 03:00 PM »

It's also where the theme of the film 21 Grams is based on.

tigkal · « **Reply #1143 on:** Aug 04, 2014 at 03:22 PM »

Quote from: Quitacet on Jul 31, 2014 at 11:26 AM

They enjoy life because they are not burdened with guilt.

Plus atheists who who do good are better than most christians who do good not for goodness' sake but because they fear the eternal flames of hell.

Correct. Or because of the they love to go to heaven. So in the end. Humans are basically selfish, sabi nung isang author. meron lang righteous selfishness, at meron hindi righteous. Kaya if it will be proven walang heaven or walang hell,sa palagay ko mawalan ng members dahil yung fear of hell and love of heaven ang reason bakit sila nag member. I have yet to find a religion that does not preach the fear and the love.

majoe · « **Reply #1144 on:** Aug 05, 2014 at 09:54 PM »

Quote from: leomarley on Aug 02, 2014 at 12:52 PM

What's good about science is it's true whether or not you believe in it.
- Neil deGrasse Tyson

i agree.
what i like more about science is that it also reveals God's works.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1145 on:** Aug 06, 2014 at 01:05 AM »

Quote from: jerix on Jul 31, 2014 at 12:08 PM

if we all came from one God who created us all and all the flesh we have also came from him and when judgment comes he will be burning those who have sinned, then God will be burning himself?

Hindi kaya we are interpreting God'sa Word in our favor kapag ganyan?

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1146 on:** Aug 06, 2014 at 02:16 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Aug 06, 2014 at 01:05 AM

Hindi kaya we are interpreting God'sa Word in our favor kapag ganyan?

don master fluffy, what about religions who does the same?

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1147 on:** Aug 06, 2014 at 12:08 PM »

Quote from: ninjababez® on Aug 06, 2014 at 02:16 AM

don master fluffy, what about religions who does the same?

Yan ang hindi ko alam. Hehe!

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1148 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 02:05 PM »

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2014/08/14/atheists-behaving-badly/#.U-2ix3WwrqB

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #1149 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 02:24 PM »

Department of Education to remove the words "God-loving" from it's mission-statement.

I applaud this measure.

leomarley · « **Reply #1150 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 02:48 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on Aug 15, 2014 at 02:24 PM

Department of Education to remove the words "God-loving" from it's mission-statement.

I applaud this measure.

me as well. We have a secular government and it's about time they act like one.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1151 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 03:02 PM »

Paano yun sa mga courts where you are ask to swear and place your hand on top of a bible?

leomarley · « **Reply #1152 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 03:09 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Aug 15, 2014 at 03:02 PM

Paano yun sa mga courts where you are ask to swear and place your hand on top of a bible?

ewan ko ba dapat di rin ginagawa yun eh. dapat yung kamay sa constitution nilalagay. eh pano kung hindi naman Catholic or Christian yung person?

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1153 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 05:12 PM »

Quote from: leomarley on Aug 15, 2014 at 03:09 PM

ewan ko ba dapat di rin ginagawa yun eh. dapat yung kamay sa constitution nilalagay. eh pano kung hindi naman Catholic or Christian yung person?

Koran?

leomarley · « **Reply #1154 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 06:54 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Aug 15, 2014 at 05:12 PM

Koran?

pano kung Scientologist?

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1155 on:** Aug 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM »

Quote from: leomarley on Aug 15, 2014 at 06:54 PM

pano kung Scientologist?

Test tube?

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #1156 on:** Aug 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM »

Quote from: leomarley on Aug 15, 2014 at 06:54 PM

pano kung Scientologist?

Dianetics.

irememberhalloween · « **Reply #1157 on:** Oct 31, 2014 at 07:52 PM »

Quote from: majoe on Aug 05, 2014 at 09:54 PM

i agree.
what i like more about science is that it also reveals God's works.

hmm what do you mean God's works sir?

barrister · « **Reply #1158 on:** Oct 31, 2014 at 08:55 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on Aug 15, 2014 at 02:24 PM

Department of Education to remove the words "God-loving" from it's mission-statement.

I applaud this measure.

It's about time they did this. It's a good start. Marami pa yan...

Quote from: leomarley on Aug 15, 2014 at 03:09 PM

ewan ko ba dapat di rin ginagawa yun eh. dapat yung kamay sa constitution nilalagay. eh pano kung hindi naman Catholic or Christian yung person?

An oath is not required. What is required is an oath or affirmation.

If you're an atheist, you request that you be allowed to "solemnly affirm" without a bible, instead of "solemnly swear."

There are some Christian sects whose doctrines prohibit swearing, even if it's an oath on the bible (their basis is James 5:12). I've had one born-again witness who refused to take an oath before testifying. In that case, an affirmation is sufficient.

Bale wala naman yang oath na may bible pa kuno. Nagsisinungaling din, e...

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #1159 on:** Dec 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM »

The alternative atheist ten commandments:

1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.

2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.

3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.

4. Every person has the right to control over their body.

5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.

6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.

7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.

8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.

9. There is no one right way to live.

10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.

Hammerheart · « **Reply #1160 on:** Dec 24, 2014 at 04:12 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on Dec 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM

The alternative atheist ten commandments:

1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.

2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.

3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.

4. Every person has the right to control over their body.

5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.

6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.

7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.

8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.

9. There is no one right way to live.

10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.

I truly agree.

leomarley · « **Reply #1161 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 09:59 AM »

Happy Isaac Newton's Day!

CMac · « **Reply #1162 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 10:18 AM »

I can only assume that atheists here will only have civil marriages when they tie the knot?
Kinda pretentious to say one thing and do another thing that opposes this so called firm belief.
If ever one of you guys do have a church wedding, please do tell us the reason why you changed your mind.

Merry Christmas! Oh, sorry if any of you find that greeting offensive.

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #1163 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 10:59 AM »

Quote from: Dan 'Boss' Green on Dec 25, 2014 at 10:18 AM

I can only assume that atheists here will only have civil marriages when they tie the knot?

Yes but I believe some of them have their own humanist ministers/chaplains who can legally marry them and a lot of them have their own marriage ceremonies free from God. I think one exception is if they're marrying someone who's religious.

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Merry Christmas! Oh, sorry if any of you find that greeting offensive.

Most atheists don't find that greeting offensive.

Hammerheart · « **Reply #1164 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 05:07 PM »

Quote from: Dan 'Boss' Green on Dec 25, 2014 at 10:18 AM

I can only assume that atheists here will only have civil marriages when they tie the knot?
Kinda pretentious to say one thing and do another thing that opposes this so called firm belief.
If ever one of you guys do have a church wedding, please do tell us the reason why you changed your mind.

Merry Christmas! Oh, sorry if any of you find that greeting offensive.

We do whatever we like. We don't care about what others would think.

Ice Storm · « **Reply #1165 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 07:11 PM »

If athesists and agonostics followed these commandments then they'd be better citizens.

SiCkBoY · « **Reply #1166 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 07:32 PM »

It's just a hodgepodge of poorly written whatnots. A good portion are not even commands, just statements.

Ice Storm · « **Reply #1167 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 07:43 PM »

They dont have 10,000 years to polish the list. At most 10 hrs.

leomarley · « **Reply #1168 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 07:43 PM »

Quote from: SiCkBoY on Dec 25, 2014 at 07:32 PM

It's just a hodgepodge of poorly written whatnots. A good portion are not even commands, just statements.

Hence the word non-commandments. You're being too technical just to try to discredit these "ststements". Whatever flaws it has, it's still better and more logical than the Bible than commandments.

Ice Storm · « **Reply #1169 on:** Dec 25, 2014 at 08:44 PM »

What is written in the Holy Bible (or any other holy text) allows for our society to be feasible. It isn't perfect and does not make everyone happy but there is no better system out there.