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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #300 on: Apr 10, 2011 at 02:15 PM »
Just For The Money

Actually this is true. All our kababayans na nakikipila sa init at lamig, araw at gabi just to have that chance to be in that show have one thing in common - they all want the chance to get that elusive "W." But I do not find any problem with that. Talagang ganyan ang buhay. Depending on your pangangailan sa buhay you may opt to be there or not.

The reason for this is simply POVERTY. If you are the helpless poor in that show, you should swallow a little dignity of yours and just be inspired that after a little "giling-giling" you will have some money to feed your family or if you will be lucky enough you will become the new millionaire. But i personally do not see the acts of these people in the show degrading.



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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #301 on: Apr 10, 2011 at 03:36 PM »
I don't care/mind that people are willing to do silly/embarassing things for a chance to make easy money. What I draw the line on is pushing very young children to embarrass and humiliate themselves for money.

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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #302 on: Apr 10, 2011 at 05:01 PM »
That incident was unfortunate because the boy cried. what if the boy giggled?

Whatever side of the coin we take, the best we can do should be to consider that incident as an eyeopener  and reason to come up with appropriate guidelines, so next time there will no longer be similar incidents. However, an effort by the detractors of the show host, that mostly come from the same industry to close permanently or ban the host, etc. is an obvious manifestation of "inggit"  ;)
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #303 on: Apr 10, 2011 at 06:06 PM »
i have been looking at twitter accounts of various celebrities (aiza, jim paredes, mylene dizon, etc.) and they are getting death threats from willie's fans.

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« Reply #304 on: Apr 10, 2011 at 09:09 PM »
^ Prove what?

The statement below implies that you believe that Filipinos are intrinsically lazy.  I'd like to see how you would prove the assertion.

OT: It's funny that I sometimes hear people support the argument that it was the Spaniards fault that many Filipinos are lazy e.g. siesta & all that s**t.


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« Reply #305 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM »
That incident was unfortunate because the boy cried. what if the boy giggled?


If you ask me, a boy dancing like a stripper is still a boy dancing like a stripper. If he giggled, it wouldn't have mattered. That is still inappropriate and won't get any support from me.

The same goes for those children that dance the spaghetti dance. It's lewd and NOT "cute". Parents should know better.
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #306 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 12:07 AM »
The statement below implies that you believe that Filipinos are intrinsically lazy.  I'd like to see how you would prove the assertion.

Quote from: newwaveboy on Apr 09, 2011 at 05:19 PM
OT: It's funny that I sometimes hear people support the argument that it was the Spaniards fault that many Filipinos are lazy e.g. siesta & all that s**t.


Has anyone here read Jose Rizal's "The indolence of the Filipino"?

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« Reply #307 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 06:55 AM »
The statement below implies that you believe that Filipinos are intrinsically lazy.  I'd like to see how you would prove the assertion.


I was referring to Filipinos now, as clearly stated in my post ..... whatever laziness we see now, those 'olden traits' being the rootcause is BS ..... like I said, it's funny that I hear some people blame Spain.

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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #308 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 07:10 AM »
i have been looking at twitter accounts of various celebrities (aiza, jim paredes, mylene dizon, etc.) and they are getting death threats from willie's fans.

The government is not performing its function properly and the show gives these big population another opportunity to have some cash in their pockets, at least. This may explain that. We may not like Willy because he is "barumbado, bastos, walang modo, pedophile, ano pa ba? but if the call is to stop the show permanently, then this may not be a good idea to these people, and I agree.

If these detractors have good intentions, a call to reform the show rather than stopping it would be the best.
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #309 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 08:01 AM »
If you ask me, a boy dancing like a stripper is still a boy dancing like a stripper. If he giggled, it wouldn't have mattered. That is still inappropriate and won't get any support from me.

The same goes for those children that dance the spaghetti dance. It's lewd and NOT "cute". Parents should know better.

I agree. But I tell you that my Lolo prohibited all my female relatives to wear shorts when going out and he required them to wear below the knee trousers. He also prohibited them to talk to guys in the street. So lahat mga pinsan ko galit sa kanya and that was just 20 years ago. Morality changes from time to time. Cycle lang siguro ito.

To some the dance was lewd. Some others say there is no problem. To his parents it is alright.

We really have different taste on what is good or bad depending on so many things. Some times I also ask, why it is so that we Pinoys consider a Pinay Muchacha in a foreign country a hero, while other countries would not even consider that in their mind because they consider that as highly degrading to their race?
Why are we not adopting that kind of thinking too to preserve the so-called Pinoy pride?

My answer: We can adopt such thinking too, but we cant afford it. Ours is a battle for survival. Other Pinoys are more lucky, they can just sit and still eat 3 times a day. These are the people with higher level of education or thinking and higher degree of moral values. These are the people who dont want to see their kababayans working abroad as slaves of foreigners or who dont want to see street children. These are the people with higher pride and maybe dignity.

People know the format of the show. You have to show some guts so if the public likes you, you will earn something in return. Explore the story of the WW girls in Willing Willy. Most of them have their own sad stories. They can dance, they have the looks so they are using this as "puhunan" so just like our Pinay slaves in the middle east, their family will eat too. Judge them too as immoral and they will just smile.

So what should be our call to these? Will we call countries of the world to stop hiring Pinays as maids to we can retain our dignity? Just like what these detractors of Willy did to call these advertisers to stop their ads because Willy is a pedophile, immoral, etc? Try to  call all these employers of these gyrating girls to stop hiring these Pinays because what they are doing is highly degrading to the Filipino race too?
 
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #310 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 08:26 AM »
kung papayagan lang natin na maggpatuloy maghost ang mga barumbado,bastos,walang modo.pedophile,wag tayong magtaka kung balang araw puro ganyan makita natin sa tv araw araw.papayagan ba natin nayun ang panoorin ng mga anak natin?hindi porket nagbibigay ka ng pera sa tao eh puede mo ng gawin kung ano maisip mo.lalo na sa isa kang sikat na tv personality or host na malaki ang impluwensya sa mga manonood.

if ever mawala yang wiling willie,malay natin bakayung mga ibang pumipila dyan eh maghanap ng ibang maayos na pagkakakitaan imbes na pumila maghpon in the hope na mapapaaok sa show at maambunan ng pera.
ang dapat magreform ,yung host kaso sabi nga e "you can't teach old horse new tricks".ilang beses na ba syang napuna pero may nagbago ba sa kanya.yung incident with janjan is because of his reputation na din kasi e.

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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #311 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 08:39 AM »
Game show disgrace highlights sexual exploitation of Asian children
Emma-Kate Symons | The Australian | April 10, 2011 8:07PM

Willie Revillame, the country's highest-paid TV identity, is under investigation for child abuse after he goaded a bawling six-year-old boy to gyrate like a male stripper before a guffawing live audience and millions of viewers.

In the March episode of Revillame's show, Jan-Jan Suan, tears streaming down his face, agreed to simulate a pelvic thrusting "macho dancer" - male stripper in The Philippines - in exchange for 10,000 pesos ($220) for his poor family.

Footage of Jan-Jan's televised humiliation quickly went viral.

Government ministers and religious leaders rushed to denounce the star. The Movie and Television Review Classification Board and Human Rights Commission announced investigations into allegations of child abuse.

At first glance, images of the skinny lad dancing nervously to a tune from rapper Snoop Dogg seem relatively innocuous.

But a closer look tells a more disturbing story. As Jan-Jan cries in distress while grimly bumping and grinding, the studio audience, including his family, is in fits of laughter, egged on by the host.

Merciless, Revillame pushes the six-year-old to keep dancing for money, mocking his performance as comparable to Burlesk Queen, the 1970s Philippines cult movie starring actress Vilma Santos (now a politician) as a bikini-clad cabaret performer whose sexy dance routine so traumatises her she has a miscarriage on stage.

"That's how hard life is. Jan-Jan has to learn macho dancing at his age, for the sake of his family," Revillame says with a laugh.

The besieged host launched a diatribe against his celebrity critics on Friday as he announced a two-week suspension of the top-rating program Willing Willie. "Don't pulverise me. I'm not a bad person. I only want to help the poor," Revillame pleaded in a histrionic 25-minute "farewell" speech, beseeching viewers to "pray for this program to be back on air".

He charged some of The Philippines' top singers and actors with leading a Twitter and Facebook campaign to push advertisers to pull commercials from Willing Willie.

The network has appointed an internal ombudsman to monitor treatment of minors.

Still, the star of Willing Willie is tipped to return to the TV screen.

The forces that put Jan-Jan in the spotlight have elements peculiar to The Philippines, but Manila is not an isolated case.

Across Southeast Asia, in TV game shows, reality programs and talent contests, product launches, advertisements and mainstream films, children and minors under the malleable Asian age of consent are increasingly depicted in a highly sexualised and erotic fashion.

Thai commercial TV broadcasts popular "mini-Thai idol"-style contests showcasing heavily made-up children as young as three in sexy get-up, dancing and singing provocatively.

Similar fare is increasingly dished up to audiences in Indonesia and in poorer Cambodia. Often it's cutesy but more often blatantly pedophile-friendly. In Thailand, where made-up toddler girls sport pink T-shirts saying "I'm Single", the press occasionally reports on controversies surrounding beauty contests for children from the age of three.

The treatment of Southeast Asian children as commodities extends from the mainstream media to bars and brothels.

Experts agree that a pernicious popular and private culture of impunity regarding sexual abuse and trafficking of children still exists in the region and is worsening. According to law enforcement agencies and academic specialists, trafficking and prostitution of young children is on the rise. Thailand today is functioning more as a trafficking hub for child prostitutes and "illegal immigrants" from neighbouring poor countries such as Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam.

A new study backed by the French Research Institute on Contemporary Southeast Asia, "The Trade in Human Beings for Sex in Southeast Asia", edited by Pierre Le Roux, says sex trafficking of women and children, "already widespread internationally, continues to escalate". "Thailand is an emerging epicentre of both sex trafficking and sex tourism", the study says, noting that the first sex tourists are local and regional, followed by the smaller but persistent group of foreigners from outside Asia.

Some figures suggest as many as 250,000 women and children are trafficked annually in Southeast Asia.

Estimates of the number of child prostitutes in Thailand range from fewer than 2000 to the high hundreds of thousands. The Philippines is believed to have more than 100,000 child prostitutes.

Le Roux points to cultural factors, such as Southeast Asian concepts of "sacrifice" and the "younger sibling", as facilitating the prostitution of children and women.

Locals and foreigners often mistakenly think that with economic and social development, the scourge of pedophilia and widespread child prostitution is at least diminishing in Southeast Asia, from the heights of the 1980s and 1990s.

Australians recall pedophiles such as Robert Dunn who were tracked down by journalists and sometimes police. Cambodia has trumpeted the arrests of high-profile foreigners such as Gary Glitter, while local child abusers, the UN and NGOs attest, go unpunished.

Countering the public-relations spin, the US State Department last year placed Thailand, to Bangkok's fury, on the high alert "Tier Two watch list" for only making "limited progress" on combating and prosecuting human trafficking, including child prostitution. The Philippines also shared this ignominious status (second year running), alongside new entrants Vietnam and Laos. Wealthy Singapore appeared on the same US watch list. South Asia is not exempt, with India tagged as a top source, destination and transit country for traffickers.

Gender expert Carina Chotirawe, a professor at Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University, believes more work needs to be done in the region "to shift the consciousness of the parents and society as a whole on the protection of children".

"Depicting them in a sexualised manner is a form of child abuse and it is very worrying to see children appearing in such lewd ways," she says.

"The Revillame show was despicable. It felt like he was prostituting poverty, making the poor pander to him for quick cash fixes, as he does on a daily basis, and never mind if it entails a kid being sexed up and crying as he (Jan-Jan) does so pitifully.

"Willie was acting like God, dispensing patronage to parents inured to the poverty they see as their lot in life -- and if lewdness gets them instant cash, then so be it."

For Chotirawe, a deep-seated "cultural wiring" takes place in Southeast Asia where "kids are conditioned to believe that being sexy and looking grown up will get you far more".

"It devalues education, toil and perseverance," she says.

"In Thailand, you also see this even at kindergarten performances, with girls dressed up, made up and dancing to songs with provocative lyrics.

"It is no wonder that there is a link to child prostitution. Or in milder cases, if they are more well off and are fortunate to escape that predicament, they are lured to become 'Pretties' like the ones you see (parading) at motor shows."

Australian child protection activist Bernadette McMenamin, founder of Child Wise, agrees that the erotic depiction of children in Southeast Asia is bad news for the battle against sex tourism.

"The sexualisation of children is something that is happening worldwide without society really coming to grips with it," she says.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/game-show-disgrace-highlights-sexual-exploitation-of-asian-children/story-e6frg6so-1226036852453
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #312 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 08:59 AM »
Yikes, I never thought this latest incident would escalate into more uproar from his fellow industry colleagues. There are even more calls to get him out of the media. This is turning worse for him, the fact that the ads are pulling out should make him realize that there is pressure to get him. If this continues, he has none on his side, knowing Manny Pangilinan he doesn't tolerate people like him in his turf.

I think karma already sets in. Pinagtutulungan na sya. It's about time he change for good. Bumalik na lang sya sa IBC 13 hehe
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what?! are you talkin' to me!!!

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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #313 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 09:52 AM »
Don’t dumb down viewers, TV urged

Actress, solon seek quality programs
By Volt Contreras
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:11:00 04/11/2011

The list of Willie Revillame’s critics now includes acclaimed actress-director Monique Wilson, who called on local artists to band together, overcome fears of crossing potential employers, and help put the pressure on TV networks that “dumb down” the Filipino audience.

“We keep saying Filipino artists are world-class. Well, let’s prove it now,” Wilson wrote on her blog as she weighed in on the latest controversy hounding the game show host.

“The debate is no longer whether it was child abuse or not,” Wilson said, referring to the widely criticized episode of Revillame’s “Willing Willie” show on TV5 that had a 6-year-old boy gyrating like a macho dancer while breaking into tears for a P10,000 cash prize.

“The facts are plain to see. No one with a sense of respect for another human being can dispute that,” Wilson said.

“The discourse now is how we, as Filipinos, as artists involved in the same industry that created Willie Revillame and shows like his, could have allowed this to go on for as long as it has.”
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« Reply #314 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 09:53 AM »
I agree. But I tell you that my Lolo prohibited all my female relatives to wear shorts when going out and he required them to wear below the knee trousers. He also prohibited them to talk to guys in the street. So lahat mga pinsan ko galit sa kanya and that was just 20 years ago. Morality changes from time to time. Cycle lang siguro ito.

To some the dance was lewd. Some others say there is no problem. To his parents it is alright.


You know what hasn't changed? The sexualization of children. It was illegal during the time of your Lolo and, guess what? It's still illegal now.

And if his parents think it's alright, then I don't blame them because their parents must've also taught them it's alright to market to pedophiles.

But hey, you say morality changes from time to time. Can you tell me when in modern times was it acceptable to see children being sexualized?

I can't believe you compare this to wearing shorts.

We really have different taste on what is good or bad depending on so many things. Some times I also ask, why it is so that we Pinoys consider a Pinay Muchacha in a foreign country a hero, while other countries would not even consider that in their mind because they consider that as highly degrading to their race?
Why are we not adopting that kind of thinking too to preserve the so-called Pinoy pride?

My answer: We can adopt such thinking too, but we cant afford it.

Don't even dare dragging other countries into this with a completely unrelated issue. Perceptions between countries and cultures are different. But a child being made to dance in a sexual manner? Check your facts, the entire world considers this wrong and illegal.

And if you do find a country that does get "pride" in sexualizing a minor and use that to support your argument, may God help you. We can't adopt nor accept the idea of a child dancing like a male stripper simply because you think our perceptions are different.

You wanna take pride that our children dance like male strippers? Go right ahead. That's my morality telling your morality to make up your own country. Pero hindi kita bibigyan ng pera so you can "afford" your way of thinking. Mukhang marami namang bata pwede sumayaw sa mundo mo. They can entice those pedophiles to throw money at the stage to fund you.

Ours is a battle for survival. Other Pinoys are more lucky, they can just sit and still eat 3 times a day. These are the people with higher level of education or thinking and higher degree of moral values. These are the people who dont want to see their kababayans working abroad as slaves of foreigners or who dont want to see street children. These are the people with higher pride and maybe dignity.


You don't buy dignity. No one can afford it. You think lahat ng mayayaman at "can afford" may dignidad?

Open your eyes.

A low-income street vendor working 16 hours a day to support his family has more dignity in his little finger than any one corrupt congressman who buys houses abroad with taxpayer money.

People know the format of the show. You have to show some guts so if the public likes you, you will earn something in return. Explore the story of the WW girls in Willing Willy. Most of them have their own sad stories. They can dance, they have the looks so they are using this as "puhunan" so just like our Pinay slaves in the middle east, their family will eat too. Judge them too as immoral and they will just smile.

I was about to agree with you on this one until I realized you completely missed the point.

That kid was poor, I get it. He was made to dance in a lewd, sexual manner because that's the only way he knows he can earn the money Willy was giving him. I GET IT.

But do you? Really?

Jan-Jan isn't immoral. The WW girls aren't immoral. They're doing their thing with the best of intentions, to uplift their lives and make things better for their families. They smile when you accuse them because they truly are not immoral. They are moral people caught in an immoral situation.

Immoral situation? Where?

It's right there in front of you. Willie Revillame is the immoral situation.

Si Willy Revillame ang mayaman.

Si Willie Revillame ang "can afford"  at ang sinasabi mong "with higher pride and maybe dignity".

Si Willy Revillame ang may kapangyarihan, or "power", sa show nya.

And what does Willy Revillame do with his power? He uses this to take away the dignity of his audience, his contestants and his people.

Willie Revillame preys on the poor by taking away their dignity.

The people fighting for their lives are not the bad guys. Those who dangle money in front of them and force them into inhumane situations, are.

So what should be our call to these? Will we call countries of the world to stop hiring Pinays as maids to we can retain our dignity? Just like what these detractors of Willy did to call these advertisers to stop their ads because Willy is a pedophile, immoral, etc? Try to  call all these employers of these gyrating girls to stop hiring these Pinays because what they are doing is highly degrading to the Filipino race too?

Who says we, or our OFWs, lost their dignity? The more you think that the more you become like Willy Revillame--thinking that you're above everyone else because you have money. Thinking that it's alright to make a child dance like a stripper because you'll give him money anyway. These are people who go to extremes to feed their families and you don't find any honor or dignity in that?

Blame those perverts who keep hiring sexual labor and prey on the weak and unfortunate.

Blame Willie Revillame.
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #315 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 09:56 AM »
The government is not performing its function properly and the show gives these big population another opportunity to have some cash in their pockets, at least. This may explain that. We may not like Willy because he is "barumbado, bastos, walang modo, pedophile, ano pa ba? but if the call is to stop the show permanently, then this may not be a good idea to these people, and I agree.

If these detractors have good intentions, a call to reform the show rather than stopping it would be the best.

Yeah. Get rid of the host.

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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #316 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 09:59 AM »
if the boy's performance is "ok" with his parents, it does not mean it is "ok" for the child...proper upbringing is one of the issues here, and since the child believes that his actions were "ok", it will lead to a future governed by questionable values...the book "freakonomics" gives an insight on the repercussions of bad parenting...

willie's show does not help the poor, it only make the poor even poorer, because now the poor pins their only hope on willie's show...it will be a never ending cycle...

i think the reason why willie behaves this way is that he does not give importance to family and about teaching the right values...look at his personal life....
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« Reply #317 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM »
Willie is way over his head na...

Dati, medyo nahuhumble-an pako sa kanya kahit papano, pero ngayon para na rin syang si Joey de Leon.  >:(
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« Reply #318 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 10:19 AM »
I was referring to Filipinos now, as clearly stated in my post ..... whatever laziness we see now, those 'olden traits' being the rootcause is BS ..... like I said, it's funny that I hear some people blame Spain.

Interesting.  Would we blame poverty then? Or our educational system?

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« Reply #319 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM »
Even if we were to take away the morality issue, I still have a very serious issue with Willie: his level of arrogance and sense of nigh-invincibility. Sure, we cannot honestly expect him to still be all candy and marshmallows with his advertisers after they've just kicked him to the curb, but THREATENING them? Really? Which for-profit enterprise has actually done this and survived?

And this came after, what, he issued an ultimatum to his own, now previous, employer (ABS-CBN which, if I may point out, is just as culpable for creating this own monstrosity) if they did not side with him over another network talent?

And remember how he recently called his then best friend, John Estrada, on the set of Willing Willie and proceeded to BERATE HIM ON AIR for accepting ABS-CBN's nontime show offer, even going so far as to turn down John Estrada's offer for him to be the best man at his upcoming wedding?

So when exactly do we say enough to this monster and his ego-tripping ways? When he's already begun siccing his own fans on his detractors? When he's already issuing fatwas over the heads of Jim Paredes, Lea Salonga, Aiza Seguerra, Mylene Dizon, and whoever else in the industry has had the sense to finally say enough to his madness?  

If not necessarily for moral reasons, I'm all for clipping Willie's wings, in whatever form or manner.
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #320 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 10:34 AM »
Even if we were to take away the morality issue, I still have a very serious issue with Willie: his level of arrogance and sense of nigh-invincibility. Sure, we cannot honestly expect him to still be all candy and marshmallows with his advertisers after they've just kicked him to the curb, but THREATENING them? Really? Which for-profit enterprise has actually done this and survived?

And this came after, what, he issued an ultimatum to his own, now previous, employer (ABS-CBN which, if I may point out, is just as culpable for creating this own monstrosity) if they did not side with him over another network talent?

And remember how he recently called his then best friend, John Estrada, on the set of Willing Willie and proceeded to BERATE HIM ON AIR for accepting ABS-CBN's nontime show offer, even going so far as to turn down John Estrada's offer for him to be the best man at his upcoming wedding?

So when exactly do we say enough to this monster and his ego-tripping ways? When he's already begun siccing his own fans on his detractors? When he's already issuing fatwas over the heads of Jim Paredes, Lea Salonga, Aiza Seguerra, Mylene Dizon, and whoever else in the industry has had the sense to finally say enough to his madness?  

If not necessarily for moral reasons, I'm all for clipping Willie's wings, in whatever form or manner.

I'm all out with this...
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Re: Willie Revillame: WHY???
« Reply #321 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 11:09 AM »
“There was also nothing obscene in Jan-Jan’s performance because the dance type that (he) emulated was part of a dance form called ‘body wave.’ Jan-Jan’s dance was not suggestive and did not excite lustful thoughts. In fact, the said dance had become part of Filipino culture. In many Filipino homes, children dance this way during family gatherings to impress their parents and relatives.”

- Leonard de Vera, a lawyer for Revillame


Excuse me, but what Pinoy households has this de Vera guy been visiting? And what type of gatherings was he talking about exactly? (*shudders*)
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« Reply #322 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 11:12 AM »
...In many Filipino homes, children dance this way during family gatherings to impress their parents and relatives.”

- Leonard de Vera, a lawyer for Revillame


wtf??? massive fail.
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« Reply #323 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 11:24 AM »
An appeal to Mr. Willie Revillame's supporters, friends, people who know him personally, or even to Willie Revillame himself:

I came accross an article in the Philippine Daily Inquirer about baby Yesha and her affliction:
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/region/philippines/view/20110323-327087/Help-needed-for-sick-baby

I appeal to Willie's supporters/friends/co-workers who happen to browse the PinoyDVD forums to tell Mr. Willie Revillame about baby Yesha's condition...i believe he could help baby Yesha

Thank you.

Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but I believe Mr. Revillame can help out financially..I think we have forumers in PinoyDVD who work for TV5...

P.S. every centavo counts, any help for baby Yesha is very much appreciated. God Bless!
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« Reply #325 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 12:32 PM »
Interesting.  Would we blame poverty then? Or our educational system?

Blame it on the weather, values, and the coconut tree. If you look at countries with winter season, they are the ones who knows the value of thrift and hard work.Those who work hard and provide food for the winter survives. All the tamad dies either due to hunger or the cold. In Pinas, konting kayod lang ayos na. you can live for another day. That is for the weather. As for values, we always equate a lot of money as a measure of success. If you are happy of what you do but do not have lots of money,you are not successful. As I always tell to my kids, money cannot buy you happiness. But lack of money does not give you happiness either. And Money is not everything. But money is something.

As for the coconut tree, those familiar with coconut plantations know that you only have to work around 2 weeks every three months. Kaya filipinos cannot sustain hard work. Up to two weeks lang. and after that relax and wait for the next harvest season. Kaya marami gusto mag drive ng tricycle, padyak, etc.. Kasi nga kayod during peak time, then relax till the next peak time.

These values and attitudes are carried over time and we have the typical filipino. Ayaw masikatan ng araw, Di bale na daw tamad, hindi naman pagod, eto ang nakasulat sa mudguard ng isang jeepney.

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« Reply #326 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 12:39 PM »
malamang sa hindi, ang mga nakapila sa w.w./abc5 ay walang pakialam at hindi alam ang mga pinagsasabi natin dito o sa facebook at twitter. para sa kanila, ang importante manalo, maambunan sa mga pinamimigay ni willie at ng iba pang mga game shows ng mga tv networks. sila ang nagbababad sa init mapuyat gumising nng maaga bumiyahe at pumila.

marahil simptomas din kung anong baba na ang antas ng trash na pinapalabas ng mga networks at masayang tinatangkilik ng mga sponsors. pero as they say one man's trash is another man's treasure.

hindi titigil ang mga tao sa pagtangkilik. kung saan ang pera doon ang pila.

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« Reply #327 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 12:42 PM »
We all have different views guys -- Dan, that is your view on the matter. I will respect your right to say whatever you wish...maybe you are also correct.  It is good to read various opinions here.  ;)
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« Reply #328 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM »
Yeah. Get rid of the host.

or eradicating Revillame in showbiz. This is one way to resolve the issue and many would like this to happen.

To implement some guidelines on the participation of children on shows is the other way. Where do we stand? It is a wisdom call. ;D
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« Reply #329 on: Apr 11, 2011 at 12:58 PM »
malamang sa hindi, ang mga nakapila sa w.w./abc5 ay walang pakialam at hindi alam ang mga pinagsasabi natin dito o sa facebook at twitter. para sa kanila, ang importante manalo, maambunan sa mga pinamimigay ni willie at ng iba pang mga game shows ng mga tv networks. sila ang nagbababad sa init mapuyat gumising nng maaga bumiyahe at pumila.

marahil simptomas din kung anong baba na ang antas ng trash na pinapalabas ng mga networks at masayang tinatangkilik ng mga sponsors. pero as they say one man's trash is another man's treasure.

hindi titigil ang mga tao sa pagtangkilik. kung saan ang pera doon ang pila.


I agree. Most of these followers dont go online to view comments and opinions. However, dont you notice that most of the big names who comment dont even watch the show. So they do not know the feelings of people participating there.  ;D
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