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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #120 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM »
me nakasubok na bang paganahin yung amp ng hindi nakakabit yung 2 malaking tubes? curious lang... ;D

per diy-master, di raw gumagana, ano ibig sabihon nun?

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #121 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM »
per diy-master, di raw gumagana, ano ibig sabihon nun?


hindi gumagana yung amp pag hindi nakakabit yung 2 tubo
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hindi gumagana yung 2 tubo as in, walang silbi, palamuti lang?


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #122 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM »

Hahahaha - Teka, diba ginawan ka ni master jojod ng integrated hybrid - dalhin mo!  ;D

That I would love to hear na shootout. The unmodified and modified Sakura and the hybrid from sir jojo. BTW, gumagana ba talaga apat na tubo ng sakura o preamp section lang ? o gumagana pa din kahit tanggalin mo lahat ng tubes ?

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #123 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM »
me nakasubok na bang paganahin yung amp ng hindi nakakabit yung 2 malaking tubes? curious lang... ;D

I asked diy_master this qoute, and his answer is hindi gumagana amp pag hindi nakakabit ang ang 2 malaking tubo...




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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #124 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM »
kung palamuti lang yung apat na tubo? uurong ako sa group buy...

bibili na lang ako ng parol ...umiikot pa yung mga ilaw he he he
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #125 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM »
kung palamuti lang yung apat na tubo? uurong ako sa group buy...

bibili na lang ako ng parol ...umiikot pa yung mga ilaw he he he

haha !! ;D gumagana daw sir sabi sa ibang post. ;D

hindi kaya rebrand ito ng Menq at Yaqin...

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #126 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 12:15 PM »
i doubt kung palamuti lang yan.
i hope the maker/s won't resort to that thing.
im sure my ckt function ung tubes na tinutukoy nyo.
hindi naman cguro ganun ka ogags mga gumawa nyan at ganun kababa ang tingin sa consumers.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #127 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM »
i doubt kung palamuti lang yan.
i hope the maker/s won't resort to that thing.
im sure my ckt function ung tubes na tinutukoy nyo.
hindi naman cguro ganun ka ogags mga gumawa nyan at ganun kababa ang tingin sa consumers.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #128 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 12:54 PM »
baka mura lang yung tube at walang demand

At para maganda itsura as if you use one tube, then mukhang konti lang ang tubes...


yung 6922 na tube kasi pwede sa mababang plate volts, so bakit kailangan yung 2 malalaking rectifier tubes? ;D
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #129 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 01:38 PM »
teka teka, parang nagugulumihanan ako a  ???

kahit tanggalin ang 2 malalaking tubo at gumagana pa rin, meaning useless?

magkaiba kaya ang sq ng meron at walang 2 tubes? kung same lang aba e bling-bling nga lang talaga yun noh?

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #130 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 02:11 PM »
iba talaga kapag mass production. kung meron din sanang pinoy DIY na ganitong price kahit ako na lang ang magbibihis as long as materiales fuertes, ayos!

di naman kaya habang nageenjoy ka ng music e bigla na lang mangamoy itong sakura?

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #131 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 02:39 PM »
I asked diy_master this qoute, and his answer is hindi gumagana amp pag hindi nakakabit ang ang 2 malaking tubo...



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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #132 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:22 PM »
Ang presyohan daw sa Raon ay Php 3.7K+ according to the thread sa B&S section. Hmmm ::) ::)

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #133 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:25 PM »
At magkano kaya minimum na magagastos to make it sound better and improve the quality?

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #134 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:36 PM »
PM anthony/diy_master, he has a better price, a few hundreds of pesos cheaper than CHino, wala na sya tubo, sa tweaking na lang daw. Dali PM na! ;)
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #135 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:38 PM »
At magkano kaya minimum na magagastos to make it sound better and improve the quality?

25w per channel lang and ang tube pre-amp section lang. Dami akong pinalitan mga 25-30 items.

magkano naman bro inabot yung pag modify mo? kung 3.5k ang base price ng unit ++++ ng modifications???
3k sir parts and labor na.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #136 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:38 PM »

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #137 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:41 PM »
Kung sakaling di matuloy ang group buy, dito nalang kaya tayo mag group buy?



sino naman ang magpapasok dito? dadaan pa ng customs? magkano?   ::)

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #138 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:49 PM »
sino naman ang magpapasok dito? dadaan pa ng customs? magkano?   ::)

Im sure may mga importer dyan na pwede magkainteres sa product na to kung may sufficient demand. Baka pag umabot ng 50 ang group buy, baka ganahan na sila.  ;) baka lang ha....
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #139 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:49 PM »
what i intend to do is get one sa quiapo, kung 3.8k pwede na yun, then pagsawaan ko muna yung stock na tunog kasi wala naman ako idea kung ano tunog ng tubo, then have it tweaked by anthony para maappreciate ko yung improvement.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #140 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 04:56 PM »
what i intend to do is get one sa quiapo, kung 3.8k pwede na yun, then pagsawaan ko muna yung stock na tunog kasi wala naman ako idea kung ano tunog ng tubo, then have it tweaked by anthony para maappreciate ko yung improvement.


sugod na! kasi pag napansin ng mga shops na marami ang nagkaka-interest at bumibili baka mas mahirap mag-haggle...

expect something like 3.9 to 4.1k ang high/starting price nung iba store.

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« Reply #141 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 05:04 PM »

sugod na! kasi pag napansin ng mga shops na marami ang nagkaka-interest at bumibili baka mas mahirap mag-haggle...

expect something like 3.9 to 4.1k ang high/starting price nung iba store.

san kaya ito sir sa quiapo? malapit sa mga tindhan ng ehem?
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #142 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 05:06 PM »
san kaya ito sir sa quiapo? malapit sa mga tindhan ng ehem?

backread ka lang sa thread i posted exact shop. at sa hilera nun meron pa

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #143 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 05:22 PM »
yung 6922 na tube kasi pwede sa mababang plate volts, so bakit kailangan yung 2 malalaking rectifier tubes? ;D

sir tony, malamang wala cla nyan, especially the NOS ones. :D
most likely ,as a visual treat and marketing come on.
like occasional diyer, we always like to exagerrate use of materials:big caps, big knobs, big chassis,exotic/snake oil components/wires,nice finish, etc...

kakabilib price pt. based on material build and looks.
bili bili na...baka marami na kumukuha behind your backs, while all of you are still discussing...
tapos na boxing.baka while supply lasts lang mga yan ;D...
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #144 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 06:23 PM »
mabuti naman kung hindi palamuti yung rectifier tubes. ang tanong - pag ba minalas at nasira yung tube eh may makukuha o mabibilhan kapalit dito?  ::) *hindi naman sa madaling masira pero just in case di ba?

sa modification/ upgrade - nakita naman sa previous pages na maraming pinalitan si sir anthony (25 parts yata). ganun ba karami ang dapat palitan para tumunog ng mas maganda kesa fisher tube amp ang sakura?
premium/ boutique parts ba o raon parts din? kasi kung premium as in mundorf, auricap, nichicons rikken etc malaman, mas mahal pa sa stock amp ang gastos.

da best eh pakiusapan si sir anthony na ipost ang costing o maski essential parts na kailangan iupgrade. (sana di trade secret  ;D ) peace p0 :)

bili-bili na! sige maunahan kayo ni sir kulapong!  ;D

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #145 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 08:43 PM »
rectifier lang daw yung dalawang malaking tubo.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #146 on: Oct 23, 2009 at 11:39 PM »
what i intend to do is get one sa quiapo, kung 3.8k pwede na yun, then pagsawaan ko muna yung stock na tunog kasi wala naman ako idea kung ano tunog ng tubo, then have it tweaked by anthony para maappreciate ko yung improvement.

wag ng magpatumpik-tumpik pa pre! ;D  pero tingin ko di to matutuloy eh hehe, feeling ko lang.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #147 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 09:36 AM »
i doubt kung palamuti lang yan.
i hope the maker/s won't resort to that thing.
im sure my ckt function ung tubes na tinutukoy nyo.



sir dana with all due respect (share ko lang sir ha  :)), meron po nangyayari na ganyan.

examples that i've seen so far, a tube buffer that only uses the tube's heater as a mosfet's current source (hence it should be called a mosfet buffer), a tube rectifier that doesn't even rectify but likewise glows. an avr with the center and rear channels at 1/5th the power of the fronts. a tube amp with ss tone controls that can't swing enough output voltage to drive the next tube stage. so for whatever reason, it happens.

as for the av200 and looking at the pics only, those two small signal tubes should be (at the very least) a cathode follower which would make it an input buffer. it could very well be a plate follower but with the cap values (from the posted pics) having 35V it's possible yes but foolish to operate a tube at that plate voltage at the very least.

kaya nga ganyan ka-skeptical si Tony.  ;D

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hindi naman cguro ganun ka ogags mga gumawa nyan at ganun kababa ang tingin sa consumers.



PMPO daw po yun 200W+200W pero look at the THD, at less than 0.5% pa yun ha. PMPO at less than 10% total harmonic distortion would be a milestone in modern day electronics.

saludo ako sa nag test niyan.






kung me schematics man lang sana, madali yan madetermina...pero talagang mura sya in fairness.... ;D


malabo daw yun schematics na ilabas sir. live subject and old school reverse eng'g na lang.

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hindi ko kayang gawin yan with that looks at that price..... ;)

hard to beat talaga, even the pure ss amps nila gaganda pa ng case, heatsink. naka toroid pa yun.  ;D


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #148 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 09:46 AM »
I have seen this amp in an electronics shop somewhere in Binan and was selling for 5k

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #149 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 10:15 AM »
me magandang chassis pa ako.... ;D


nadale mo sir tonyT! chassis nga ang balak ko kunin dito kung sakaling di maganda o mas mahal pa ipa-upgrade. parang gusto ko tuloy kumain ng relyenong bangus.  ;D ;D ;D
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