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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #150 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 04:39 PM »
Sirs based on the supplier info, note po that this is info before Sakura branding:

35W per channel x 2
Frequency response: 20Hz-20KHz plus or minus 2db
Consumes 120w
Approximately 35cm long, by 25 cm width, and height of 19cm.
Weighs approximately 7 kilos daw.

Please note that these specs are unofficial.
Thanks. I'll post additional pics later.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #151 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 05:43 PM »
Some of the pics ng AV 200T

AV 200t with Focal Speakers


AV200t with Bose 301


AV200t with Sansui


AV200t with Avance


I also saw some pics of some of the future models like this one:





AV-300T? Let's wait and see.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #152 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 06:30 PM »
hehe sarap siguro magbisyo ng ganyan sa china, yung iba dun may kasama ng dac super affordable parin. chk chk

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #153 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 06:33 PM »
@jojo,
hindi lang tayo kasi sanay makakita ng ampli na may dalawang rectifiers na tulad nito, but then as i have said, the price of this amp is really hard to beat. ;D

i might buy one myself if only to satisfy my curiosity....pwede naman kasing i convert ito sa pure tube amp....me magandang chassis pa ako.... ;D


totoo yan Tony, yun mga na repair ko na mono tube amp na pang combo may dalawang tube rectifier kasi apat na 6l6 yun output tube. for a hybrid amp di lang talaga tayo sanay. ;D

the one sold by chino is the black one yata? and for me mas elegant yun black kaysa yun parang kahoy but it's aesthetics, hence, subjective matter. wag mo na gawing all tube ;D, taasan mo na lang yun biasing nun opt device para bumaba naman yun crossover distortion at low volumes and change the heatsink with a bigger one ok na.

I have seen this amp in an electronics shop somewhere in Binan and was selling for 5k

chino here is selling it way way cheaper than that... ;)

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #154 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 08:24 PM »
JojoD, thanks for sharing that info, firsthand info based on your tinkerings with these kind of toys.
I still believe in the goodness of man :D, not to resort to this kind of trickery. Sakura, already an established brand locally competing with Konzert amps would do better in performing an IQC before accepting this as a possible OEM product, I believe. The specs provided with these  have always been inaccurate, im sure ,if you would perform a comprehensive laboratory measurements based on known Audio test standards.
How about the two big tubes behind  acting as single diode (?), 2 can make you a full wave ckt.
Anyways, tubes connected with heaters only is a visual delight this Yuletide Season ;D. ;D ;D
As for the PMPO thing, this is a usual marketing gimmick then, especially employed during the peak of the Karaoke days (and until now).For all we know, dibay dibay lang ng certain factor, as per manufacturer's wishes. Could be dibay dibay by a factor of 20, 10 (?),usually, and also in this case.Thus 200WPMP0/ch  as claimed, could  just  be 10W or 20W at 10% THD, in this  particular case.
As for the tube replacements, pray ;D. Likewise, tube longevity is never a question, unless operated outside of its known parameters.I get old console tube amps (60"s), still with their original tubes and still working fine and yet to be replaced.

Para matapos na ang mga katanungan, sa mga nakabili  na , baka gusto nyo buksan & take pictures so everybody here can do post mortem analysis and have idea ...kung mumurahin or pupurihin ;D ;D ;D
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #155 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 09:05 PM »

I also saw some pics of some of the future models like this one:





AV-300T? Let's wait and see.


the sleeping giant is wide awake and the dragon's glowing tubes ;D

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #156 on: Oct 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM »



AV-300T? Let's wait and see.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #157 on: Oct 25, 2009 at 01:03 AM »
JojoD, thanks for sharing that info, firsthand info based on your tinkerings with these kind of toys.
I still believe in the goodness of man :D, not to resort to this kind of trickery. Sakura, already an established brand locally competing with Konzert amps would do better in performing an IQC before accepting this as a possible OEM product, I believe. The specs provided with these  have always been inaccurate, im sure ,if you would perform a comprehensive laboratory measurements based on known Audio test standards.
How about the two big tubes behind  acting as single diode (?), 2 can make you a full wave ckt.
Anyways, tubes connected with heaters only is a visual delight this Yuletide Season ;D. ;D ;D
As for the PMPO thing, this is a usual marketing gimmick then, especially employed during the peak of the Karaoke days (and until now).For all we know, dibay dibay lang ng certain factor, as per manufacturer's wishes. Could be dibay dibay by a factor of 20, 10 (?),usually, and also in this case.Thus 200WPMP0/ch  as claimed, could  just  be 10W or 20W at 10% THD, in this  particular case.
As for the tube replacements, pray ;D. Likewise, tube longevity is never a question, unless operated outside of its known parameters.I get old console tube amps (60"s), still with their original tubes and still working fine and yet to be replaced.

Para matapos na ang mga katanungan, sa mga nakabili  na , baka gusto nyo buksan & take pictures so everybody here can do post mortem analysis and have idea ...kung mumurahin or pupurihin ;D ;D ;D


I agree, I've also got the chance to do work on several Eico relics with their original tubes labeled "Mullard for Eico" still working and tested good.

Di naman po mumurahin (bad yun sir  ;D), maayos naman po yan, but let's just all be realistic lang. :)

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #158 on: Oct 25, 2009 at 08:33 AM »
shootout...shootout...sagot ko na yung unmodified!!
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #159 on: Oct 25, 2009 at 08:37 AM »
san kaya ito sir sa quiapo? malapit sa mga tindhan ng ehem?

Sir Anchit,

dun sa tulay...isa lang naman yata yun..pagtawid mo..raon na yun di ba....lakad ka lang ng konti...sa right side..Rald Allied...naka display naman sa labas..medyo sisipatin mo nga lang..nasa itaas  yung karton....then pagpasok mo sa loob..meron demo unit....nasa istante..

u can get it at 3.8k....pero baka kung medyo maboka ka..baka makuha mo pa ng lesser...
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #160 on: Oct 25, 2009 at 08:44 AM »
Sir Anchit,

dun sa tulay...isa lang naman yata yun..pagtawid mo..raon na yun di ba....lakad ka lang ng konti...sa right side..Rald Allied...naka display naman sa labas..medyo sisipatin mo nga lang..nasa itaas  yung karton....then pagpasok mo sa loob..meron demo unit....nasa istante..

u can get it at 3.8k....pero baka kung medyo maboka ka..baka makuha mo pa ng lesser...


sirs,
i posted the details a few pages back. dun ka pala nakabili 3.5k tawad ko hehehe ! ;D
nasaan na pic nung loob kahon sa likod ng malaking tubes?



shootout...shootout...sagot ko na yung unmodified!!

mukang wala gusto tumapat sa stock sakura mo ah! sa hifi show kabila dalhin!  ;D

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« Reply #161 on: Oct 25, 2009 at 05:52 PM »

sirs,
i posted the details a few pages back. dun ka pala nakabili 3.5k tawad ko hehehe ! ;D
nasaan na pic nung loob kahon sa likod ng malaking tubes?


mukang wala gusto tumapat sa stock sakura mo ah! sa hifi show kabila dalhin!  ;D

dapat pala Sir...sumabay na ko sau nung nakatawad ka ng 3.5k,...nung pumunta nga ko...naka short at tsinelas na lang nga ako eh....paawa effect..kaso sabi sa akin..baka daw tumaas pa..baka maging 4.1k....he he

bakit kaya walang gustong lumaban sa 3.8k na sakura.....hmmm..kinakabahan yata cla he he...

btw, sa totoo lang...hindi ko masabi kung maganda nga talaga..dahil first timer lang nga ako sa tube...

pero when i compare it to my Denon 1907 na SS na worth 28k..... lumalaban sa ganda ng tunog...

pinakanta nya ang 602 s3 ko....
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #162 on: Oct 25, 2009 at 06:17 PM »
dapat pala Sir...sumabay na ko sau nung nakatawad ka ng 3.5k,...nung pumunta nga ko...naka short at tsinelas na lang nga ako eh....paawa effect..kaso sabi sa akin..baka daw tumaas pa..baka maging 4.1k....he he

bakit kaya walang gustong lumaban sa 3.8k na sakura.....hmmm..kinakabahan yata cla he he...

btw, sa totoo lang...hindi ko masabi kung maganda nga talaga..dahil first timer lang nga ako sa tube...

pero when i compare it to my Denon 1907 na SS na worth 28k..... lumalaban sa ganda ng tunog...

pinakanta nya ang 602 s3 ko....


tawad lang naman yung 3.5k hehehe

sa pagkakaalam ko tube rectified hybrid ang sakura. preamp tube/power SS. basta maganda tunog ayos!

mas gaganda pa yan pag mag-tube rolling ka ng preamp tubes. at ipamodify mo kay sir anthony. palagyan mo ng mundorf cap sa signal path.


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #163 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 08:16 AM »
mga kapanalig sa audio,
cno sa inyo ang nakakuha na at medyo malapit lan sa QC?
bka pede marinig at ma QC na rin :D
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« Reply #164 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 09:45 AM »
way to go brod arnel.... parinig naman nyan ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #165 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM »
sa mga nakabile na at hindi nagustuhan ang sounds, willing akong kuhanin at cost, just pm me..... ;D

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« Reply #166 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 01:45 PM »
since naunahan ako ni brother Anchit, at malabong pakakawalan pa nya yung offer ni Anthony, i have decided na bumili na lang yesterday. Natawaran ko ng 3.6k. i'll check the receipt later para sa name nung store, para don sa mga interested pang bumili. Aside from the fact na pogi talaga yung unit, mukhang decent naman yung quality. Though yung point of comparison ko lang e yung current setup ko na AMX tube preamp and bada poweramp. Pagsawaan ko muna, later ko na ipa-mod kay Anthony. 

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« Reply #167 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 02:10 PM »
since naunahan ako ni brother Anchit, at malabong pakakawalan pa nya yung offer ni Anthony, i have decided na bumili na lang yesterday. Natawaran ko ng 3.6k. i'll check the receipt later para sa name nung store, para don sa mga interested pang bumili. Aside from the fact na pogi talaga yung unit, mukhang decent naman yung quality. Though yung point of comparison ko lang e yung current setup ko na AMX tube preamp and bada poweramp. Pagsawaan ko muna, later ko na ipa-mod kay Anthony. 

Congrats pre, ako nagda-dalawang isip pa rin hanggang ngayon, pero pa-pm na lang din sa akin nung pangalan ng store at exact place ha. Thanks :)
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« Reply #168 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 02:49 PM »
since naunahan ako ni brother Anchit, at malabong pakakawalan pa nya yung offer ni Anthony, i have decided na bumili na lang yesterday. Natawaran ko ng 3.6k. i'll check the receipt later para sa name nung store, para don sa mga interested pang bumili. Aside from the fact na pogi talaga yung unit, mukhang decent naman yung quality. Though yung point of comparison ko lang e yung current setup ko na AMX tube preamp and bada poweramp. Pagsawaan ko muna, later ko na ipa-mod kay Anthony. 

pre madami yun nakay anthony. ;D
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« Reply #169 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 03:33 PM »
Congrats pre, ako nagda-dalawang isip pa rin hanggang ngayon, pero pa-pm na lang din sa akin nung pangalan ng store at exact place ha. Thanks :)

sure!! ikaw pa, malakas ka sakin e..  ;D

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« Reply #170 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 03:35 PM »
pakipost na lang name ng store  :)
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« Reply #171 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 03:36 PM »
pre madami yun nakay anthony. ;D
waaaa  seyeng nemen!!!  ;D

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« Reply #172 on: Oct 26, 2009 at 11:55 PM »
Congrats pre, ako nagda-dalawang isip pa rin hanggang ngayon, pero pa-pm na lang din sa akin nung pangalan ng store at exact place ha. Thanks :)

Bro,
Huwag ka ng mag dalawang isip... kumuha ka na rin..  ;D

ako nga rin eh... na te-tempt na kumuha din  ;)

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« Reply #173 on: Oct 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM »
waaaa  seyeng nemen!!!  ;D


friday deliery ng sakin. ;D kaso wala pa ako CDP, dvdp muna gagamitin ko. :( langya, psp dapat bibilin ko eh.
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« Reply #174 on: Oct 27, 2009 at 12:33 AM »
way to go brod arnel.... parinig naman nyan ;D ;D ;D

He he he...pwede Sir Tarsi..

or pwede rin sa shootout....sana marami magdala para beng bengan talaga...
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #175 on: Oct 27, 2009 at 12:54 AM »


Dami na talaga nag kaka-interes ah..... pag nalaman 'to ng mga taga Raon.. malamang tataas ang SRP nito... 

By the way don't know kung nasagot na 'to.... are the stock tubes replaceable ?

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« Reply #176 on: Oct 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM »


Ganda nito ah. Ano kaya yung nasa likod nung 6922, apat na EL34 ?

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« Reply #177 on: Oct 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM »
Ganda nito ah. Ano kaya yung nasa likod nung 6922, apat na EL34 ?


small signal tubes must be in a concertina fashion but 6922 too low to drive pp opt, I bet those are 12ax7 variants...  ;)

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x2, too slim for EL34 sir.  ;D

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« Reply #178 on: Oct 27, 2009 at 03:09 PM »
25watts si sakura right? gano kalakas ang 25w? ;D

naka impluwnesya na naman ako dito sa office na 2 officemates, will drive a 92 and 90db b&w, so should be easy for sakura no? thanks!
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« Reply #179 on: Oct 27, 2009 at 03:38 PM »
25watts si sakura right? gano kalakas ang 25w? ;D

naka impluwnesya na naman ako dito sa office na 2 officemates, will drive a 92 and 90db b&w, so should be easy for sakura no? thanks!

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    0.5               87                      89
     1                 90                      92
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    20               103                    105
    25               104                    106

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110 dB          30 minutes
115 dB          15 minutes
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