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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #240 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 04:28 PM »
Sir maganda po ba SQ pag movies? kahit 2.0|2.1 setup lang po?

Maganda ang SQ ng movie kapag 2.1 channel kung ang makikinig ay hindi pa nakakarinig ng sounds ng 5.1 sir..

Iba talaga kapag 5.1 or more ang Sound setup mo, bitin kasi ang 2.1 channel lang, you'll never go back to 2-channel sa movie kapag nasanay ka na sa 5.1 setup ;)
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #241 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 04:44 PM »
may 5.1 ht ako Sir pero yung mumurahin lang nabili>nextbase HM050 nabili ko lang sa SM Applicance Ctr. Eto nga din pinag-iisipan ko. Malamang sa lakas panalo siguro itong 200T + 2xFloorstander speakers(Crown BF-646A)<pwede na sakin siguro to Sir :)
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #242 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 04:48 PM »
may 5.1 ht ako Sir pero yung mumurahin lang nabili>nextbase HM050 nabili ko lang sa SM Applicance Ctr. Eto nga din pinag-iisipan ko. Malamang sa lakas panalo siguro itong 200T + 2xFloorstander speakers(Crown BF-646A)<pwede na sakin siguro to Sir :)

Kung dyan ka magiging masaya sa setup na yan sir, then it's worth it na rin :)
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #243 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 04:51 PM »
Sir maganda po ba SQ pag movies? kahit 2.0|2.1 setup lang po?

i think as @anchit and @chino have already mentioned, using this for movie wont be advisable. even if its budget friendly, it would be more prudent to save some more for a solid state based receiver.

tandaan mo, kahit magumpisa ka sa 2.0 or 2.1, eventually you are going to try to go for the full surround and i think mid term, its better to get a receiver already so that your next upgrade is just to add speakers into your setup and hopefully ending up with 5.1. just my two cents.  ;)

and i think with your budget of 4k, 500 pesos nalang and you get this sakura receiver that's a dead ringer for a hk.  ;)

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #244 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 04:55 PM »
Luma na yung 5.1 ko Sir reynold...saka nabibitin ako sa kalampag.  Nakita ng officemate ko na tiga audio-visual namin, advice nya etong 200T na lang daw kunin ko, kasi mura na daw kasi nung araw daw napakamahal daw ng mga t-amp.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #245 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 04:59 PM »
^Oo nga pala nasa top of the list ko yan Sir Sakura AV348
this saturday pupunta ko ng Raon para makapag-audition ng mga receivers & speakers lalo na yang 348.  Mas wise nga nag mag AV348 ako...futureproof kung baga... ::)
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #246 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 05:05 PM »
Luma na yung 5.1 ko Sir reynold...saka nabibitin ako sa kalampag.  Nakita ng officemate ko na tiga audio-visual namin, advice nya etong 200T na lang daw kunin ko,kasi mura na daw kasi nung araw daw napakamahal daw ng mga t-amp.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #247 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 07:31 PM »
Sir noong araw na wala pang megamol...tanda na nyun e ;D
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #248 on: Nov 12, 2009 at 08:27 PM »
Sir noong araw na wala pang megamol...tanda na nyun e ;D

ah ok di ko na inabutan yun ;D ,,,2005 ko lang yata nalaman ang t-amp.

good luck sa gear search mo, yan ang pinaka-exciting sa hobby na ito ;D

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #249 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 08:44 AM »
Luma na yung 5.1 ko Sir reynold...saka nabibitin ako sa kalampag.  Nakita ng officemate ko na tiga audio-visual namin, advice nya etong 200T na lang daw kunin ko, kasi mura na daw kasi nung araw daw napakamahal daw ng mga t-amp.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #250 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 08:51 AM »
tube amp is implied, not tripath t-amp


oo nga noh! tube section pala ito kaya t-amp = tube amp ;D

ano kaya ss amp? sa-surplus? o speaker stand?  ::)


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #251 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 09:18 AM »
without tweaks maganda na rin sq?

Balak ko gamitin sa HT 2.0 setup sana driving 90db speakers.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #252 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM »
without tweaks maganda na rin sq?

Balak ko gamitin sa HT 2.0 setup sana driving 90db speakers.

Yes, the SQ of this tube amp is good for its price... but as other members always advice, it's better to have a receiver for HT para ma-enjoy nyo ng husto ang mga movies ;)

but if budget is the problem, you can always start with a 2-channel or 2.1 setup for HT goooooiiingggg to 5.1 to 7.1 to 7.2 or higher, unti-unti lang at maaabot din ang mga pangarap ;D

btw, for a 90db speakers, kayang-kaya ng amp na 'to ;)


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« Reply #253 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 02:03 PM »
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #254 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 02:09 PM »
Yes, the SQ of this tube amp is good for its price... but as other members always advice, it's better to have a receiver for HT para ma-enjoy nyo ng husto ang mga movies ;)

but if budget is the problem, you can always start with a 2-channel or 2.1 setup for HT goooooiiingggg to 5.1 to 7.1 to 7.2 or higher, unti-unti lang at maaabot din ang mga pangarap ;D

btw, for a 90db speakers, kayang-kaya ng amp na 'to ;)


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #255 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 03:45 PM »
sipag mo.. sabay lang tayo, naka 1000 post ka na.. hehe

Yes, the SQ of this tube amp is good for its price... but as other members always advice, it's better to have a receiver for HT para ma-enjoy nyo ng husto ang mga movies ;)

but if budget is the problem, you can always start with a 2-channel or 2.1 setup for HT goooooiiingggg to 5.1 to 7.1 to 7.2 or higher, unti-unti lang at maaabot din ang mga pangarap ;D

btw, for a 90db speakers, kayang-kaya ng amp na 'to ;)


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #256 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 03:48 PM »
WOW, pang 1000 post ko na pala 'to, isa na akong ganap na PinoyDVD Guru :D :D :D


congrats fellow tubero!  :D
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #257 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 08:53 PM »
wow si Sir Reynold 1000th na mamaw ka na Sir ;D
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #258 on: Nov 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM »
Mga sir I am new sa tube, is the Sakura a great-sounding tube amp?  How much and where to buy?  Also, will the modicfications, stated in the earlier thread, provide a night and day difference?  How much is the modification cost? Am really getting curious about the sound of tubes, tnx.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #259 on: Nov 17, 2009 at 12:54 PM »
Mga sir I am new sa tube, is the Sakura a great-sounding tube amp?  How much and where to buy?  Also, will the modicfications, stated in the earlier thread, provide a night and day difference?  How much is the modification cost? Am really getting curious about the sound of tubes, tnx.

sir konting backread lang po. palagay ko kumpleto naman itong thread sa info. meron pa 2 thread sa marketplace/fs.
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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #260 on: Nov 17, 2009 at 05:38 PM »
Pre, mukhang delikado ito.  Hindi ba tayo makuryente dito kase Electyonic Amplifier ang nakalagay sa face plate *lolz*  :)


rebranded ng sakura yan, halata naman dun sa sakua dba :)
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Eto oh mas makatotohanan sa itsura pero mas nakakaaning yung presyo kung hindi iisipin ang mga kurakot sa tax :)

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« Reply #261 on: Nov 17, 2009 at 05:46 PM »
Sayang lang pera mo diyan, baka wala pang ilang buwan ay makikita na natin dito sa Buy & Sell section as For Sale na kaagad.  Mas mabuti pa na magpagawa ka na lang kay Andrew S. or sa mga nag-d-DIY ng tube amps dito sa PDVD.  At least sigurado kang hindi cheapo electronics ang gagamitin na components and far better sounding than those tube amps built somewhere in China, just my 2 cents.  :)


Eto na yung picture ng Sakura AV-200 Amp @100wpc sa Raon.





Front Panel:
Input Selector
Power Button
Volume Control

Side Panel:
Bass Control
Treble Control

Magkaka-idea na naman ang Konzert na magkaroon ng ganito.   :D :D :D


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« Reply #262 on: Nov 17, 2009 at 06:50 PM »
Sayang lang pera mo diyan, baka wala pang ilang buwan ay makikita na natin dito sa Buy & Sell section as For Sale na kaagad.  Mas mabuti pa na magpagawa ka na lang kay Andrew S. or sa mga nag-d-DIY ng tube amps dito sa PDVD.  At least sigurado kang hindi cheapo electronics ang gagamitin na components and far better sounding than those tube amps built somewhere in China, just my 2 cents.  :)



sir,

i dont own a sakura amp but may i ask exactly whats your reason for stating that "sayang lang ang pera mo diyan"? mas inferior ba ang mga parts neto kesa sa mga nabibili sa raon?

base sa post ng ibang may-ari ng sakura, mukang happy naman sila at wala pa ako nababasa o naririnig na sirain ang amp.

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #263 on: Nov 17, 2009 at 07:23 PM »
I dont think it's a disposable tube amp :)

one of the factors na tiningnan ko for me to purchase this amp is the price... sa napaka-gandang pagkaka-gawa ng kaha nito ay panalo ka na agad... every electronic gears/gadget naman ay posibleng masira, ang tanong lang e kung nagagawa pa ba... in this case, i'd rather buy a cheap gear like this tube amp na pwede namang magawa at ma-modify kaysa sa napaka-mahal na tube amp na pwede ring masira at mas mahal pa kapag pinagawa... make sense? just my practical opinion... peace ;)

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« Reply #264 on: Nov 18, 2009 at 12:51 AM »
As I have mentioned, the reason why I said na "sayang lang ang pera mo diyan"  was based on the earlier posts.  You will pay for the amp at how much? Around P6-7K (correct me for the pricing), will ask somebody to tweak it and cost another P3K.  Not to mention the abala during the tweak.  

If this is the case, then go for a much more decent amp like the one being sold by a local manufacturer of tube amps or DIYers here.  I saw last time they had sold an SE El84 (15wpc) and 6L6 PP UL Class A baby amp (30wpc) at 14-16K with Nichicon and Illinois caps , PP hard wired, no PCB, Alps potentiometer and comes with Sylvania NOS signal and JJ power tubes.  So comparing the Sakura Tube Amp versus the amps made by a local manufacturer here.  I think ours are far better than this amp somewhere from China.  Not to mention again iyong local support nito kapag nasira.  Baka gawa Lunes sira Martes ang kalabasan niyan , ilang buwan lang ay umuugong or nagha-hum na ang output trannies niyan (No Offense).  Konti na lang ang diperensiya, save the cash and buy later that will last for a long time.  Do you think?  Just my 2 cents again and opinion ko lang ito.


sir,

i dont own a sakura amp but may i ask exactly whats your reason for stating that "sayang lang ang pera mo diyan"? mas inferior ba ang mga parts neto kesa sa mga nabibili sa raon?

base sa post ng ibang may-ari ng sakura, mukang happy naman sila at wala pa ako nababasa o naririnig na sirain ang amp.


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #265 on: Nov 18, 2009 at 01:07 AM »
I have no question about it, mine is a personal opinion.  Of course lahat naman ng bagay ay talagang pasira, wala namang bagay na kapag binili mo ay paayos db?  Sa audio ay always personal choice, my post is an opinion.  Kase kung gagastos ka rin lang ng worth 10K for that amp, sabi ko nga ay dagdagan mo na lang ng konti ay may isang decent amp ka na which I believed far better than some of those that are made in China including this one.  Baka ilang buwan lang ay umugong / mag-hum ang transformer niyan sakit pa ng ulo mo at lipad na kaagad iyong pinambili mo diyan.  BTW, nasa trannies ang pinaka-buhay ng amp, kapag palpak ang xformers nito ay huwag mong asahan na tutunog ng maganda at maayos ang amp mo.  Kahit anong tweak ang gawin mo ay hindi tutunog ng matino ang amp mo unless you replaced the xformers with a good, reliable and durable one.

I managed to bought a locally manufactured amp for about 16K during their sale offer.  I opened the chassis and saw the internal components.  Nichicon / Illinois Caps, Japan Alps potentiometer, Point-point hard wired, 2 big output trannies and 1 power,  not OTL design, Sylvania NOS signal tubes and choice of brands of power tubes like Tung Sol,Electro Harmonix, Svetlana, Shuguang  and JJ.

So just think of the price-built/quality ratio compared to the Sakura Amp.  (BTW,how much is this Sakura Amp w/o the tweak)?  So my question now to you, is this amp durable?  It's up to you to decide.  This is just my 2 cents.  :)



I dont think it's a disposable tube amp :)

one of the factors na tiningnan ko for me to purchase this amp is the price... sa napaka-gandang pagkaka-gawa ng kaha nito ay panalo ka na agad... every electronic gears/gadget naman ay posibleng masira, ang tanong lang e kung nagagawa pa ba... in this case, i'd rather buy a cheap gear like this tube amp na pwede namang magawa at ma-modify kaysa sa napaka-mahal na tube amp na pwede ring masira at mas mahal pa kapag pinagawa... make sense? just my practical opinion... peace ;)

someone in this community once quoted...

"hindi lahat ng mura ay pangit at sirain... at hindi lahat ng mahal ay maganda at matibay..."

...in the end, it's still the users satisfaction is always important ;)


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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #266 on: Nov 18, 2009 at 02:16 AM »

So just think of the price-built/quality ratio compared to the Sakura Amp.  (BTW,how much is this Sakura Amp w/o the tweak)?  So my question now to you, is this amp durable?  It's up to you to decide.  This is just my 2 cents.  :)


maybe you overlooked the actual price of the stock amp kaya nasabi mo na small difference lang compared to other tube amps na quality wise

stock is 3.5k to 3.7k basta <4k, pag modded around 6k ata

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #267 on: Nov 18, 2009 at 04:32 AM »
Too good to be true for a tube amp of that price.  Have you in any way ask yourself what's inside of that amp, will it sound really good even at the very least of an audiophile level? is it durable in a long run and etc?  You know, my wife has a very little knowledge about electronics as in very little (ipod and creative speakers ok na sa kanya) but when i told her about a tube amp that cost less than 10K, she raised her eyebrow and said "Ano ba 'yon, meron bang ganon? hindi kaya sunog-bahay 'yon?"  Imagine, for a person na walang hilig sa hobby natin eh nagkaroon pa ng doubt ng sabihin ko sa kanya ito.  Well how much more pa sa atin.  Anyway, this is a personal choice, you buy the amp, you take the risk.  Mine is just an opinion.  Peace & Good luck :)


maybe you overlooked the actual price of the stock amp kaya nasabi mo na small difference lang compared to other tube amps na quality wise

stock is 3.5k to 3.7k basta <4k, pag modded around 6k ata
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Amadeus SR#1 KT88
Maestro SET 845

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Re: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp
« Reply #268 on: Nov 18, 2009 at 05:17 AM »
Oh I see, this is a hybrid amp.  I thought this is really a full tube amp as printed in the box. Vacuum Tube Audio Amplifier @ 200w and the aesthetics, it doesn't look like a hybrid.  Anyway, no issues.  Regards.


whoaaa...hold your horses.....this Sakua amp is a hybrid amp....ss output and tubed buffer input......no sense to compare with a pure tubed amp...


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Harbeth
Sonusfaber
Garrard
Exposure
NAD
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Maestro SET 845

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Re: SAKURA AMP
« Reply #269 on: Nov 18, 2009 at 08:16 AM »
Sayang lang pera mo diyan, baka wala pang ilang buwan ay makikita na natin dito sa Buy & Sell section as For Sale na kaagad.  Mas mabuti pa na magpagawa ka na lang kay Andrew S. or sa mga nag-d-DIY ng tube amps dito sa PDVD.  At least sigurado kang hindi cheapo electronics ang gagamitin na components and far better sounding than those tube amps built somewhere in China, just my 2 cents.  :)



obviously, its just your  opinion and you are entitled to it.
better check the unit first. i dont own one yet, but i have listened and checked the build quality from a friend.quite impressed based on price ,performance and build ratios.
how sure are you that those you mentioned & some diyers who commission work  dont use raon or cheap parts from time to time, close ba kayo
 peace...:)
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