Topic: Ice Age - Master Nelson's Superlative Audio and Home Theater

[Stagea]

galing ako sa mansion kagabi, did elementary file sharing setup.  then, nood nood ng clips ..
one thing that puzzled me was the HUGE improvement in terms of SQ since the last time i went there.
Stagea, may ginawa ba kayo kakaiba sa setup nya?  

Kailan ka ba huling pumunta? Baka naman yung dating AVR at speakers pa ang narinig mo, Master Ninjababez?

yes. madami. mdaming dinagdag sa gain ng EQ. 

Uy gusto ko yan. Turuan mo naman ako nyan para -80dB pa lang setting ng volume eh nagkiclip na.

May Midas touch ako. Lahat ng hinihipo ko, nagiging Goldmund.   

Tama po!  Yung clock radio ko pinahawak ko kay Master Nelson, naging Goldmund! Kaso naging sobrang bigat hindi ko na maiuwi. Pinasunog na lang ni Master Nelson, at sawang sawa na siya sa dami ng Goldmund sa paligid nya.

[Nelson de Leon]

Ganyan kayo palibhasa luma na ang stereo amp na gamit ko.  Inaapi ninyo ako kasi high end ang gamit ninyo. Ako lang ang may haspaslupang gamit na binuo buo sa mga junkyard at mga pinag-lumaan ni master jedi guru Stagea. 

[ninjababez®]

Kailan ka ba huling pumunta? Baka naman yung dating AVR at speakers pa ang narinig mo, Master Ninjababez?

2 months ago siguro bro. 

[Nelson de Leon]

2 months ago siguro bro. 

Btw, thank you very much for setting-up my home network. Super dali na talaga magtransfer ng mga files from 1 pc to the other. Next project natin, i-hack yun laptop ng daughter ko. 

[ninjababez®]

Btw, thank you very much for setting-up my home network. Super dali na talaga magtransfer ng mga files from 1 pc to the other. Next project natin, i-hack yun laptop ng daughter ko. 

no problem bro, instructions lang naman binigay ko eh .. ikaw din naman tumapos dun sa ibang pc 
thanks sa paghatid sakin sa cubao exactly where Stagea dropped me off last xmas eb. 

[Nelson de Leon]

Thanks Master Paul and Master Jedi Guru Ivan for coming. Kailangan nang mag-studio master. matagal ko nang gusto, kaya lang, filthy rich si master Paul kaya nauna nang nag-studio master. 

Thanks master jedi guru Ivan for toying with my HT system again. The PJ has improved a lot. It started when you calibrated it with the mede8er in our previous home. Then with my PC, using master Paul's calibration disc calibrated in the PJ settings where the colors became very natural. But with your adjustments in my PC settings, it became very vivid. Mukha nang 720p.  Maximized na ang PJ. And thanks for tweaking the 1020's EQ. May settings na ako from MCACC, one for action movies, one for videoke sessions and your EQ settings for concerts.  Na-extend na ang upgrade wish list ko sa PJ.     

[ninjababez®]

ako naman dalawin nyo!   
kaso wednesday and thursday lang

[Stagea]

Thanks Master Paul and Master Jedi Guru Ivan for coming. Kailangan nang mag-studio master. matagal ko nang gusto, kaya lang, filthy rich si master Paul kaya nauna nang nag-studio master. 

You're welcome idol. Salamat din sa pag-entertain at sa dinner.

Si Master Paul eh uber rich talaga, alam na natin yan.

Thanks master jedi guru Ivan for toying with my HT system again. The PJ has improved a lot. It started when you calibrated it with the mede8er in our previous home. Then with my PC, using master Paul's calibration disc calibrated in the PJ settings where the colors became very natural. But with your adjustments in my PC settings, it became very vivid. Mukha nang 720p.  Maximized na ang PJ. And thanks for tweaking the 1020's EQ. May settings na ako from MCACC, one for action movies, one for videoke sessions and your EQ settings for concerts.  Na-extend na ang upgrade wish list ko sa PJ.     

You're welcome idol. Di ko nakalikot ng husto yung EQ at walang time to tweak all 10 channels and to play with the other settings (though yung HF compensation curve, channel levels and cross point na tweak naman ng maayos). Fine-tune mo na lang pag may oras.

I too was amazed with how much the quick video calibration helped. Sobrang limited kasi tayo sa controls before, kaya hindi natin maayos yung picture. Having a PC as your source solved that issue. Nagulat din ako sa simple and effective video controls ng intel integrated video mo, mas maganda siya sa video controls ng htpc ko (geforce gtx480 based).

ako naman dalawin nyo!   
kaso wednesday and thursday lang

Ayun o! Kila Master Ninja daw!

[Nelson de Leon]

ako naman dalawin nyo!   
kaso wednesday and thursday lang

Sige. Yayain natin si master jedi guru stagea.   May Midas touch.

You're welcome idol. Salamat din sa pag-entertain at sa dinner.

I too was amazed with how much the quick video calibration helped. Sobrang limited kasi tayo sa controls before, kaya hindi natin maayos yung picture. Having a PC as your source solved that issue. Nagulat din ako sa simple and effective video controls ng intel integrated video mo, mas maganda siya sa video controls ng htpc ko (geforce gtx480 based).


Ayun o! Kila Master Ninja daw!

Motherboard stock videocard lang as per your recomendation when we purchased the PC. 

Kailangan na natin bumili ng tickets sa advance screening kina Jamy!

[ninjababez®]

bro nelson ito bagay sa HT mo
para kay nelson aka JOJO THE POGI

Sige. Yayain natin si master jedi guru stagea.   May Midas touch.
Kailangan na natin bumili ng tickets sa advance screening kina Jamy!


actually matagal ko na kinkulit si Stagea thru PM, pero secret na lang muna yung mga tanong ko sa kanya

Motherboard stock videocard lang as per your recomendation when we purchased the PC.  

bro nelson, sa halagang 2-3k 99.99% ng video pwede na i-play dyan sa HTPC mo, or pwedeng arborin monalang daughter mo yung laptop nya  
sayang naman kung di mo marinig si freddie mercury in DTS MA  

[Stagea]

Sige. Yayain natin si master jedi guru stagea.   May Midas touch.

Ikaw yun. Ganito nakita namin monoblocks sa bahay mo:



Partida, pang tweeter mo pa lang mga yan sa HT.

[Stagea]

sayang naman kung di mo marinig si freddie mercury in DTS MA   

Ano naman connection nung DTS-MA sa 2-3k, Master Jamy?

Yung video processing needs ng PJ ni Master Nelson di kaya ibigay nung lappy ng daugher nya. Medyo kulang kulang kasi ang video controls ng Nvidia, unless siguro gumamit ng ibang video software.

[ninjababez®]

Ano naman connection nung DTS-MA sa 2-3k, Master Jamy?

Yung video processing needs ng PJ ni Master Nelson di kaya ibigay nung lappy ng daugher nya. Medyo kulang kulang kasi ang video controls ng Nvidia, unless siguro gumamit ng ibang video software.

stereo kasi lumabas instead of hd audio sa concerts nya.
pwede sya bumili ng ati 6470 or higher model.
wala problem sa video
pero totoo yan kulang na kulang ang controls ng nvidia sa video tweaks.

[Nelson de Leon]

stereo kasi lumabas instead of hd audio sa concerts nya.
pwede sya bumili ng ati 6470 or higher model.
wala problem sa video
pero totoo yan kulang na kulang ang controls ng nvidia sa video tweaks.

Yun Queen nga, ayaw lumabas in HD audio. Plus yun black hawk down na demo file. Pero the rest, lumalabas naman in HD audio. Oks na ako dun.  I can live with that. Feeling ko, kulang yun codec ng software player ko. or yun decoder ng vsx1020 ko. Actually, even in non HD audio, may 2 movies ako na hindi din kayang i-decode ng receiver ko like yun mortal combat. But i can also live with that.  Bonus na lang for me yun extra capabilities. Pero yun studio master, like like like! 

bro nelson ito bagay sa HT mo
para kay nelson aka JOJO THE POGI

Danda danda ng ribbon tweeters ano? Concise and sharp ang highs pero di fatiguing sa ears. Very explicit din ang image.  Parang di nga makasabay ang woofers ng FS sa ganda ng highs niya. Bagay na bagay yan Aurum for you. I bet kapag nadinig mo sa system mo yan, makakalimutan mo ang slim towers mo. 

[ninjababez®]

Yun Queen nga, ayaw lumabas in HD audio. Plus yun black hawk down na demo file. Pero the rest, lumalabas naman in HD audio. Oks na ako dun.   I can live with that. Feeling ko, kulang yun codec ng software player ko. or yun decoder ng vsx1020 ko. Actually, even in non HD audio, may 2 movies ako na hindi din kayang i-decode ng receiver ko like yun mortal combat. But i can also live with that.   Bonus na lang for me yun extra capabilities. Pero yun studio master, like like like!  

regular DD and DTS yun napickup ng pioneer bro, yung queen sakin DTS lang din nakukuha ko

Danda danda ng ribbon tweeters ano? Concise and sharp ang highs pero di fatiguing sa ears. Very explicit din ang image.  Parang di nga makasabay ang woofers ng FS sa ganda ng highs niya. Bagay na bagay yan Aurum for you. I bet kapag nadinig mo sa system mo yan, makakalimutan mo ang slim towers mo.  


pwede kaya pagawa kay tony ng arum clone

[ninjababez®]

Parang di nga makasabay ang woofers ng FS sa ganda ng highs niya. Bagay na bagay yan Aurum for you. I bet kapag nadinig mo sa system mo yan, makakalimutan mo ang slim towers mo.  

eto bro baka sakaling mas maganda ang bass  
                             

[nerveblocker]

eto bro baka sakaling mas maganda ang bass  
                             

Ok ang pag hilera ah. Parang sa Airforce One 

[ninjababez®]

Ok ang pag hilera ah. Parang sa Airforce One 

ayaw ko bigyan si don nelson ng link lang bro, baka mainip 

[pilyo168]

eto bro baka sakaling mas maganda ang bass  
                             

Ayos na aquarium ito. 

[Stagea]

stereo kasi lumabas instead of hd audio sa concerts nya.
pwede sya bumili ng ati 6470 or higher model.
wala problem sa video
pero totoo yan kulang na kulang ang controls ng nvidia sa video tweaks.

Hindi ata sa video card yun master Jamy, sa player nya yun.

Yan mga Aurum sobra dali i-drive karamihan. They also have a distinct sound that I'd describe as "graceful." Eto master Jamy o pili ka:

Pang SS...


Pang Tubes...

[Nelson de Leon]

Naku master Jamy, you can't go wrong with any of the above! 

[ninjababez®]

Naku master Jamy, you can't go wrong with any of the above! 

Hindi ata sa video card yun master Jamy, sa player nya yun.

Yan mga Aurum sobra dali i-drive karamihan. They also have a distinct sound that I'd describe as "graceful." Eto master Jamy o pili ka:

Pang SS...

mga di bagay sa kwarto at wallet ko yan 

btw re:audio over HDMI sa limited experience ko sa intel HD graphics (hdmi), dts and dd lang kaya nya bitstream sa receiver, pero kung ati with hd audio capability pwede dts ma and dd hd 
actually pati sa HD3200 di pwede hd audio bitstream, dd and dts lang.  napa-output ko lang ng hd audio bitstream nung mag palit ako ng discrete ati hd 4670  via cyberlink (pareho nung player ni bro nelson)

nga pala bro nelson naka spdif out ka parin ba? baka yung bago intel hd graphics kaya na hd audio bitstreaming 

[Nelson de Leon]

Nope. Not using spdif. But i need one for stereo listening na... balik spdif ako. 

[Stagea]

btw re:audio over HDMI sa limited experience ko sa intel HD graphics (hdmi), dts and dd lang kaya nya bitstream sa receiver, pero kung ati with hd audio capability pwede dts ma and dd hd  

Master Jamy, depende po yan sa model nung adapter hindi dun sa brand. Yung kay Master Nelson kaya ng HD Audio bitstreaming. He's actually able to get it with other files. Hindi nya pinasubok sakin yung Queen kahapon kaya di ko na troubleshoot.

Older models don't support HD Audio bitstreaming, maski anong brand pa siya.

nga pala bro nelson naka spdif out ka parin ba? baka yung bago intel hd graphics kaya na hd audio bitstreaming  

Yes, kaya nga. Intel HD Graphics and HD 2000/3000 IGPs can bitstream HD Audio. The latter two can also stream 3D video through their HDMI 1.4 ports.

Except for some exceptions sa certain model lines, eto ang hdmi feature set ng common consumer adapters, afaik:

HD Audio Bitstream + 3D:
Intel HD 2000/3000 (Sandy Bridge)
AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6000 Series models
Lower Nvidia Geforce 400 and 500 Series models

HD Audio Bitstream w/o 3D output:
Intel HD Graphics (Clarkdale)
AMD/ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series models

PCM Multichannel:
Higher Nvidia Geforce 400 and 500 Series models (Also supports 3D)
Most AMD/ATI Radeon HD 2000, HD 3000 and HD 4000 Series models
Most Intel HD Audio adapters (implementation-dependent)
Most Nvida Geforce 200 and 300 Series models
Some Nvidia Geforce 8, 9 and 100 Series models

Note: Many older models with HDMI ports often only allow 2 channel PCM streams or Compressed Surround formats, as they rely on an SPDIF bridges to get audio.

[Stagea]

pero totoo yan kulang na kulang ang controls ng nvidia sa video tweaks.

Ang gusto ko sa video side ng Nvidia is hiwalay yung desktop picture controls sa video controls. Oh well, we can't get everything.

Btw, nagkamali si Master Nelson kahapon. Nabuksan nya yung cover ng speakers at ganito nakita namin sa likod:

[Nelson de Leon]

Ang gusto ko sa video side ng Nvidia is hiwalay yung desktop picture controls sa video controls. Oh well, we can't get everything.

Btw, nagkamali si Master Nelson kahapon. Nabuksan nya yung cover ng speakers at ganito nakita namin sa likod:

Haha! In my dreams.  Ok na ako sa 4ohms 3 way ko.  Though it's also obvious re limitations ng speakers ko, it's more than at par kung i-compare ko sa same price range ng mga speakers. 

[ninjababez®]

Master Jamy, depende po yan sa model nung adapter hindi dun sa brand. Yung kay Master Nelson kaya ng HD Audio bitstreaming. He's actually able to get it with other files. Hindi nya pinasubok sakin yung Queen kahapon kaya di ko na troubleshoot.
Older models don't support HD Audio bitstreaming, maski anong brand pa siya.
Yes, kaya nga. Intel HD Graphics and HD 2000/3000 IGPs can bitstream HD Audio. The latter two can also stream 3D video through their HDMI 1.4 ports.
Except for some exceptions sa certain model lines, eto ang hdmi feature set ng common consumer adapters, afaik:
HD Audio Bitstream + 3D:
Intel HD 2000/3000 (Sandy Bridge)
AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6000 Series models
Lower Nvidia Geforce 400 and 500 Series models

HD Audio Bitstream w/o 3D output:
Intel HD Graphics (Clarkdale)
AMD/ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series models
PCM Multichannel:
Higher Nvidia Geforce 400 and 500 Series models (Also supports 3D)
Most AMD/ATI Radeon HD 2000, HD 3000 and HD 4000 Series models
Most Intel HD Audio adapters (implementation-dependent)
Most Nvida Geforce 200 and 300 Series models
Some Nvidia Geforce 8, 9 and 100 Series models
Note: Many older models with HDMI ports often only allow 2 channel PCM streams or Compressed Surround formats, as they rely on an SPDIF bridges to get audio.

never thought of it this way, lahat kasi ng experience ko with intel HD graphics puro PCM lang (last time i tested was 2009 pa 
i have a laptop at my other apartment with ATi 6470, never thought 6000 series can do 3D

btw is Wednesday lunch time EB ok with you guys? 

[Nelson de Leon]

Work ako ng Wednesday bro. Tignan natin si mster jedi guru Stageaness. 

[ninjababez®]

Work ako ng Wednesday bro. Tignan natin si mster jedi guru Stageaness. 

thursday pwede rin ako

[Nelson de Leon]

I'm ok with Thursday.