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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #60 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 12:47 PM »
Sirs,

Got a pair of BOSE Series III recently kasi, 5k Lang budget ko muna kaso

Pede ba po to sa Sakura?  San po pede bilin Sakura ?  ok ba performance?
If ok, and will work with this, buy sana ko one eh,

Thanks in advance sa advise/recommendation.

I know there's a discussion ongoing but appreciate your reply if go or no go.

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #61 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 12:55 PM »
binebenta ni comecum, yung unit nya, baka mahabol mo pa.....

meron nyan sa mga stores sa  raon, tanong tanong ka lang doon, try mo sa deeco.....

at 5k budget, makakabili ka nyan...
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #62 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:00 PM »
binebenta ni comecum, yung unit nya, baka mahabol mo pa.....

meron nyan sa mga stores sa  raon, tanong tanong ka lang doon, try mo sa deeco.....

at 5k budget, makakabili ka nyan...

sir TonyT, overkill ba ito for the BOSE speakers bookshelf series 3? baka may better recommendation ka, now that comecum is selling his, naku parang di pala maganda tong AV-730 :)
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #63 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:03 PM »
Sirs,

Got a pair of BOSE Series III recently kasi, 5k Lang budget ko muna kaso

Pede ba po to sa Sakura?  San po pede bilin Sakura ?  ok ba performance?
If ok, and will work with this, buy sana ko one eh,

Thanks in advance sa advise/recommendation.

I know there's a discussion ongoing but appreciate your reply if go or no go.

Thanks




i got sakura av5024,,u can try sakura av730,av735,av739it is much powerful than sakura av5024..but av730 have 5 speaker terminal but it is not a 5.1 or HT..baka akalain mo sir poket sakura 5024 and sakura av730 5.1 HT na sya..if u want HT go for sakura av300series or u can visit their website to see the amps

http://sakura.com.ph/

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #64 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:06 PM »
sir TonyT, overkill ba ito for the BOSE speakers bookshelf series 3? baka may better recommendation ka, now that comecum is selling his, naku parang di pala maganda tong AV-730 :)

no, hindi naman, your speaker is rated 75 watts, pasok yan...
 
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #65 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:13 PM »
no, hindi naman, your speaker is rated 75 watts, pasok yan...
 

ok, am just looking for an amp  < 5k na just right for these speakers, medjo tipid din sa kuryente habol ko and room to fill the sound with is just 3 meters x 4 meters. appreciate talaga your recommendations, thanks.
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #66 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:13 PM »
sir TonyT, overkill ba ito for the BOSE speakers bookshelf series 3? baka may better recommendation ka, now that comecum is selling his, naku parang di pala maganda tong AV-730 :)

naku sir hndi fit yang speaker mo sa sakura av730 ang need na speaker sa av730 atleast 12inches..

sa sakura av5024 ko dati im using diy 8 inches konzert speakers but nagpalit ako ng db audio 600watts 12 inches speaker..bass tripper ako kaya hndi umubra ang 8 inches sa av5024 ang nangyari nman sa db audio ko nung bagong taon kinabukasan nung bagong taon nagvideoke kame gamit ung sakura amp and ung db audio tapos may naririnig akong thump na basag..un pla ung left speaker ko un pla ung diperensya tapos nung binuksan ko nakita ko biyak ung magnet ng woofer ko..huhu..and napansin ko kc kpg bumabayo ung speaker on a long bass music grabe init parang bagong lutong kanin..hehe

nagtry narin akong maglagay ng 6inches jvc speakers galing sa component tapos nilagay ko sa sakura 5024 hndi tlga ubra kpg bumayo basag ung tunog parang lumilipad ung cone..so watch it..kung matigas ang surround ng bose 301 mo pede nya siguro ihandle pero i doubt it sa kaso ng av730
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #67 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:22 PM »
siguro sir nakakakita ka ng mga konzert amps na 502a na kayang idrive ang 12 to 15 inches woofer sa videoke..what more sa sakura av730 na mas powerful pa sa konzert 502a..so be careful..it is based on my experience..hndi naman po tulad ng mga branded yan na may filter ang signal..china amps or generic amp or even mostly diy uses pure amplification hndi katulad ng mga branded na may added features pa sila like dac,dolby built in equalization etc na kayang magcontrol its like having a car with an automatic transmission vs manual transmission
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #68 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:23 PM »
siguro sir nakakakita ka ng mga konzert amps na 502a na kayang idrive ang 12 to 15 inches woofer sa videoke..what more sa sakura av730 na mas powerful pa sa konzert 502a..so be careful..it is based on my experience

anong pede na sakura for this then? or any brand for that matter. i just want to put my bose in use for music and use them for karaoke sessions d2. AM a green person, i just need enough to drive these speakers, not necessarily too loud, but safe lang that i dont burn my speakers.
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #69 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:33 PM »
anong pede na sakura for this then? or any brand for that matter. i just want to put my bose in use for music and use them for karaoke sessions d2. AM a green person, i just need enough to drive these speakers, not necessarily too loud, but safe lang that i dont burn my speakers.

ano ba size ng woofer ng bose 301 nyo sir??and paki check narin kung matigas pa ang surround nya or ung rubber or foam ng woofer

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #70 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 01:55 PM »
ano ba size ng woofer ng bose 301 nyo sir??and paki check narin kung matigas pa ang surround nya or ung rubber or foam ng woofer

hmm, have no clue how to open/pry the cover eh. noob
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #71 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 02:01 PM »
hmm, have no clue how to open/pry the cover eh. noob

ok..your speaker is an 8 inches woofer..try this model sakura av-882 and sakura av3022try to audition this sa raon..kung pupunta ka sa raon sir kelangan alam mo na ung bibilhin mo ung brand and model number sir para sila na mismo ang magbibigay ng mababang price without asking them thinking that you know about that item that you are looking for and say this "magkano mo ibibigay skin??" dont say "magkano" coz it will definitely know that u dont know the price of that item (coz lots of wise businessman out there)..thats the point that they will steady the price and not giving you the lowest price possible..
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #72 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 02:14 PM »
http://www.carstereo.com/help/Articles.cfm?id=40


read the lower part
http://www.bcae1.com/voltages.htm


if u compute a 12volt car amp at 4 ohms using the P=E2/R
what will be the result??



sa electronics wala pong precise even if you try to calculate it will always +/- on the written value of a said component..example battery even it stated that it is a 1.5v its not precise it will +/- of the exact value written



may smps po yun sir... so hindi lang 12V ang supply voltage.

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #73 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 02:18 PM »
and that is what scares me.... ;D

no matter how convicted you are, if you are wrong, and you do not know you are wrong....then no one can help you..... ;)



I'm already scared after reading more...  ;D

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #74 on: Jul 07, 2011 at 02:41 PM »
@mhavs, ikaw ba yung mhavski sa electronicslab.ph?
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #75 on: Jul 17, 2011 at 06:55 PM »
naku sir hndi fit yang speaker mo sa sakura av730 ang need na speaker sa av730 atleast 12inches..

sa sakura av5024 ko dati im using diy 8 inches konzert speakers but nagpalit ako ng db audio 600watts 12 inches speaker..bass tripper ako kaya hndi umubra ang 8 inches sa av5024 ang nangyari nman sa db audio ko nung bagong taon kinabukasan nung bagong taon nagvideoke kame gamit ung sakura amp and ung db audio tapos may naririnig akong thump na basag..un pla ung left speaker ko un pla ung diperensya tapos nung binuksan ko nakita ko biyak ung magnet ng woofer ko..huhu..and napansin ko kc kpg bumabayo ung speaker on a long bass music grabe init parang bagong lutong kanin..hehe

nagtry narin akong maglagay ng 6inches jvc speakers galing sa component tapos nilagay ko sa sakura 5024 hndi tlga ubra kpg bumayo basag ung tunog parang lumilipad ung cone..so watch it..kung matigas ang surround ng bose 301 mo pede nya siguro ihandle pero i doubt it sa kaso ng av730

hindi kaya clipping na yung amp kaya nasira yung speaker mo?

anyway, ok kaya itong av-730 pang subwoofer amp? (i-ooff lang yung treble) kaya kaya nito yung 4ohms 300W sub? o bili nalang ako sa ebay ng 350w BTL tda7293 mono? mura lang eh nasa 1.5k yung kit (wala pang hsf ska traffo)

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #76 on: Jul 18, 2011 at 09:22 AM »
sir, newbie po ako need ko po yung advise ng mga dvd member, may sakura AV-730 plano ko lagyan ng 4 subwoofer 12inches na targa(3way/tweeter/midrange/subwoofer) ano/ilan impedance(4 or 8 ohms) ba kailangan ko ikonsider. thanks for comment and your suggestion

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #77 on: Jul 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM »
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you need 8 ohms impedance for 4 subwoofer. your amp can handle a load of 4 ohms
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #78 on: Jul 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM »
sir badoy, thanks for advised, kailangan ko nalang iseries yung targa(400watts) na dual voice coil to get 8ohms
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #79 on: Jul 18, 2011 at 05:17 PM »
sir pag may dividing network ba kailangan pa ba ng capacitor sa tweeter and midrange?

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #80 on: Jul 19, 2011 at 09:03 AM »
sir badoy, thanks for advised, kailangan ko nalang iseries yung targa(400watts) na dual voice coil to get 8ohms
DVC na yung targa mo the best option is only two subs na targa na lang. i tried targa subs at maganda din output nya pagdating sa bass driving the 2 coil at 4 ohms. sayang lang pag nag-series ka ng speaker at masyadong mahal. 4 speaker is the same performance with the 2 speaker. naka-design na ung targa for extra power at 2 ohms. i tried that. di sya katulad ng ibang speaker na parang lumalagatok pag pumalo ng todo ang 40Hz na bass at full power.

much better bili ka nalang ng pre-built na dividing network. kung DIY syempre tweeter and midrange need a capacitor in series connection. i cannot give you exact value kasi ako ginagawa ko hinahanap ko yung actual value ng capacitance based sa peak or full power ng amp na hindi sya distorted.
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #81 on: Jul 19, 2011 at 12:12 PM »
DVC na yung targa mo the best option is only two subs na targa na lang. i tried targa subs at maganda din output nya pagdating sa bass driving the 2 coil at 4 ohms. sayang lang pag nag-series ka ng speaker at masyadong mahal. 4 speaker is the same performance with the 2 speaker. naka-design na ung targa for extra power at 2 ohms. i tried that. di sya katulad ng ibang speaker na parang lumalagatok pag pumalo ng todo ang 40Hz na bass at full power.

much better bili ka nalang ng pre-built na dividing network. kung DIY syempre tweeter and midrange need a capacitor in series connection. i cannot give you exact value kasi ako ginagawa ko hinahanap ko yung actual value ng capacitance based sa peak or full power ng amp na hindi sya distorted.
sir ang ibig kong sabihin yung DVC ng isang speaker ang iseseries ko para maging 8ohms, pede ring palang gamitin yung 2 VC(pede ba ang isang Voice coil sa Speaker A ng amplifier output(Left channel) then yung 2nd Voice coil sa speaker B ng amplifier output(left channel) and other set of speaker same sa right channel(A&B) ang worry ko lang baka maging 2ohms/impedance pag hindi ako nag series ng DVC(to avoid problem sa amplifier). thanks sa mga advised sir, highly appreciated

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #82 on: Jul 19, 2011 at 02:58 PM »
@mhavs, ikaw ba yung mhavski sa electronicslab.ph?

Sir mhavs, djan ka ba? kamustahin ko lang yung unit mo? seller ka ba ng sakura?
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #83 on: Jul 20, 2011 at 09:03 AM »
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pede ba ang isang Voice coil sa Speaker A ng amplifier output(Left channel) then yung 2nd Voice coil sa speaker B ng amplifier output(left channel)
yup pwede. the problem is your amp is only 4 ohms. if you do that its too dangerous for your amp kung magkamali ka switching the load will become 2 ohms. that option is good for 8 ohms DVC speaker. {{pero may ibang trick dyan driving 2 4omhs equivalent to 2omhs without damaging your amp. pero wag mo muna intindihin yang trick. baka masira pa amp mo.}}

better reserve mo nalang ang isang voice coil para kung sakali bumigay ang isang coil meroon ka pa... :) kung ang amp mo is tested to drive 4 ohms then use one voice coil. pero kung gusto mo selectable 8 ohms or 4 ohms for just for a single click of switch you can do that by putting a heavy duty switch.
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #84 on: Jul 20, 2011 at 10:05 AM »
@baby_wilmaryup pwede. the problem is your amp is only 4 ohms. if you do that its too dangerous for your amp kung magkamali ka switching the load will become 2 ohms. that option is good for 8 ohms DVC speaker. {{pero may ibang trick dyan driving 2 4omhs equivalent to 2omhs without damaging your amp. pero wag mo muna intindihin yang trick. baka masira pa amp mo.}}

better reserve mo nalang ang isang voice coil para kung sakali bumigay ang isang coil meroon ka pa... :) kung ang amp mo is tested to drive 4 ohms then use one voice coil. pero kung gusto mo selectable 8 ohms or 4 ohms for just for a single click of switch you can do that by putting a heavy duty switch.
thank you master, maraming maraming salamat marami akong natutunan, may idea na ako how to set up may sound system to protect my amp (by the way nagpalit kc ako ng amplifier from konzert av-301 to sakura av-730) thank you sir marahil marami na kayong natulungan by sharing your knowledge/ideas

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #85 on: Jul 20, 2011 at 02:52 PM »
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kung sakali bumigay ang isang coil meroon ka pa...

in a dual voice coil speaker, if one set of coil burns out, it burns out as a short....nasunog na yung insulation....so even if you still have one good voice coil, distorted na rin ang kalalabasan nyan....

cnnect those voice coils as 8 ohms, your amplifier will be happy that you did... ;)

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #86 on: Jul 20, 2011 at 03:30 PM »
I handed to my mom a used Bose 301 series V. Paired with a NAD 320BEE, ayos na ayos sa rock and pop!!!! The NAD is only 50 watts per channel.  :)

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #87 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 08:38 AM »
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if you want selectable 4 & 8 ohms and you're not familiar with it just PM us. they will help you.
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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #88 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 10:56 AM »
sir, ok lang ba kung ang set up ko sa sakura AV-730, 2 subwoofer na 12inches 400watts(for A speaker out) at 2 instrumental 10inches 300watts(for B speaker out) o kailangan talaga na same yung watts ng subwoofer at instrumental or kung subwoofer lahat or instrumental lahat. base sa manual ng sakura av-730 need same watts and impedance para hindi madamage yung amp.

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Re: Sakura AV-730
« Reply #89 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 04:57 PM »
anong pede na sakura for this then? or any brand for that matter. i just want to put my bose in use for music and use them for karaoke sessions d2. AM a green person, i just need enough to drive these speakers, not necessarily too loud, but safe lang that i dont burn my speakers.

Ayun!, SAKURA AV-733 pang karaoke at nabuhay na yung FT ko from bien_Uy na BOSE Series III :)

Someone got this from raon just this am para sa karaoke session d2 sa office.
Di ko mafford mag libre ng team ko sa labas for my birthday, so bili na lang ako nito, tutal lagi namang karaoke at inom at kain ang celebration d2 sa opis.

Andoks + aling nene + booze + karaoke 99900 songs --- bottomless fun!

- individual mic controls, for 3 mikes tapos may aux plug para sa itouch/iphone
- 2 channels 8 ohms swak sa Bose Series III old but really nice output!

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