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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #360 on: Jul 28, 2004 at 08:14 PM »


SFF = 18k
3Ghz+ = 25k
1 GB ram = 20k
160GB = 7k
XPC SFF comes with onboard video and sound card.

But with the specs that u hav in mind kakatawa naman onboard video and sound ang gusto mo. teehee...

ati x800 = 24k
audigy zs = 6.2k

thanks for the prices ...
this will purely be a media center htpc ... probably use it as an mp3 server ( AirTunes ) and  to drive a flat panel display that can only go to 1024X768 resolution .

the one i;m looking at is a Shuttle Media Center PC ... 



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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #361 on: Jul 29, 2004 at 01:32 AM »
if wana order Shuttle XPC media center SFF you might wanna give Miko of pinoypc.net a call or PM for orders and pricing. He is the exclusive distro of shuttle hir in RP. Got my XPC from him.

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #362 on: Aug 24, 2004 at 05:09 AM »
Hi!  I have a Fujitsu Biblo notebook with S-video TV out.  Is there a certain resolution that I have to lower in the display settings so I can view the display on TV?

I tried attaching the computer via S-video cable to my Samsung Tantus and pushed the S-video button on the keyboard but no display was on the tv.  Help needed......

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #363 on: Aug 24, 2004 at 05:12 AM »
Hi!  I have a Fujitsu Biblo notebook with S-video TV out.  Is there a certain resolution that I have to lower in the display settings so I can view the display on TV?

I tried attaching the computer via S-video cable to my Samsung Tantus, changed the display to 640 x 480 and pushed the S-video button on the keyboard there was a flicker but no display was on the tv.  Help needed......

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #364 on: Aug 24, 2004 at 08:22 AM »
Hi!  I have a Fujitsu Biblo notebook with S-video TV out.  Is there a certain resolution that I have to lower in the display settings so I can view the display on TV?

I tried attaching the computer via S-video cable to my Samsung Tantus, changed the display to 640 x 480 and pushed the S-video button on the keyboard there was a flicker but no display was on the tv.  Help needed......

Try checking the display properties advanced setting.  I had a similar problem before with my ASUS notebook.  It turns out, before the s-video button worked I had to set the dual monitor properties first if its single monitor, clone or extend... something like that.  try to fiddle around with your settings.

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #365 on: Aug 24, 2004 at 02:38 PM »
New HTPC configuration:

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 Platinum PCI Express Video Card DVI Out
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 250 GB Each EIDE Drives,
6.) 1 GB DDR500 RAM,
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Wave Case

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #366 on: Aug 24, 2004 at 04:31 PM »
New HTPC configuration:

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 Platinum PCI Express Video Card DVI Out
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 250 GB Each EIDE Drives,
6.) 1 GB DDR500 RAM,
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Wave Case


Wow... what a kick ass setup man! haaay the disadvantages of living in a 3rd world country.... :(

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #367 on: Aug 24, 2004 at 10:24 PM »
Jpadua,

I do a lot of video editing, most in Hi Def, so I need the horsepower.


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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #368 on: Aug 27, 2004 at 10:27 AM »
W :oW!!!  ang tindi nito!!!   :o :o


New HTPC configuration:

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 Platinum PCI Express Video Card DVI Out
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 250 GB Each EIDE Drives,
6.) 1 GB DDR500 RAM,
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Wave Case


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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #369 on: Aug 28, 2004 at 05:16 AM »
jpadua- I'll check the settings of my notebook.  Thanks!

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #370 on: Sep 08, 2004 at 01:46 PM »
Hey this new product just came out, its a Cresendo Component output card.  This would be perfect if your HDTV only had component inputs.  I wonder how we can get one of these... 



The Crescendo-Systems TCP2200 is the addition to the transcoder line developed in the AVSForum. On top of the functionality present in the TC2000, the new TCP2200 adds support for tri-level sync and a fixed width bi-level sync. The PCI interface only draws power from the computer and therefore requires no drivers or additional software. The TCP2200 is a transcoder and the VGA connector is an input not an output. The TCP2200 is one of the few transcoders that has a separate color conversion for 480p and 720p/1080i in order to provide optimum color fidelity. Although the required conversions are nearly identical, the difference cannot be ignored when optimum quality is pursued.

here's a link to their website
http://www.crescendo-systems.com

« Last Edit: Sep 08, 2004 at 01:49 PM by jpadua »

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #371 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 03:13 AM »
Are all those movies on your HDD? My goodness how did you manage to get them all to fit on just half a terrabyte? :)

I wonder if JP took my advice concerning how to get HD content. ;)

My HD Movie Listing:

NOT DVD- Full HD, NOT 480p but 1080i/720P

Mission Impossible
Mission Impossible 2
Monsters Ball
Monsters Inc
Moulin Rouge
Patriot, The
Professional (Leon), The
Pulp Fiction
Queen of the d**ned
Raiders of the Lost Arc
Resident Evil
Road to Perdition
Rock, The - OAR
Saving Private Ryan
Shanghai Nights
Showtime
Shrek
Silence Of The Lambs
Spiderman
Star Trek - The Voyage Home
Star Trek - The Wrath of Khan
Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones
Starship Troopers
Stuart Little 2
Swordfish
Terminator 3
Thelma and Louise
Titanic
Toy Story 2
Unfaithful
Vertical Limit
What About Bob
What Women Want
Wild Side
Wild Things
Wrong turn
X-Men
X-Men 2
XXX

New additions

Ginger Snaps
Princess Bride
Okinawa's Coral Treasures
The Gift
Final Destination
There's Something About Mary
Frequency
Anna And The King
Predator
Stir of Echoes
Kill Bill Vol 1
Lara Croft - Tomb Raider




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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #372 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 04:37 AM »
I use removable drives in drive trays.

For example:

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=404307

I can swap drives as easily as one would load/unload DVD's.

The drives I've mentioned are the ones in permanent residence in my HTPC.


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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #373 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 09:41 AM »
I wonder if JP took my advice concerning how to get HD content. ;)

hey! musta ... what advice?  I dont remember na! hhehe refresh my memory. 

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #374 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 02:07 PM »
andaleon: that explains alot and my mistake. I thought you only had two quarter terrabyte storage. Now I see that you in fact have a terrabyte. Is all the storage dedicated to HD content?

jpadua: I shall PM you the advice. :)

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #375 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 07:25 PM »
Yes-all HD.

You get spolied.

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #376 on: Sep 18, 2004 at 10:16 AM »
Hello,

sorry for my ignorance. But how is a high definition editing done? what resolution? is it available in premiere pro? kelangan ba yun camera is 3ccd? or a normal home video camera will do? like sony camera with 0.6 ccd? Kindly explain naman dyan, at kung san yun ina-apply yun high-definition video editing. In details po sana, para sa mga nde din nakaka alam.

Salamat.
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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #377 on: Sep 18, 2004 at 02:48 PM »
You use a NLE suite that can accommodate HD content. The most commonly used resolutions at 1920x1080 interlaced and 1280x720 progressive or interlaced. Adobe has a HD primer that you can read here (PDF file). The Cheapest HD DV camera you can find has a starting price of US$3,000-4,000 by the end of this year.

Some local advertisement houses are already doing work on HD for experience and archival purposes. These very same houses use the Apple platform (PowerMac G5, FinalCut Pro, SCSI RAID) for their work. Eventually the Philippines will have HD content but as to how or when it'll be delivered is a matter a of some debate. I expect it to arrive here 5-10 years from now. This would only be accelerated when the killer app that'll make HDTV the new defacto standard big here would be HD-DVD or Blu-ray disc players.

I expect a lot of poor people to complain that HDTV is anti-poor.   ::)
« Last Edit: Sep 18, 2004 at 02:54 PM by DViant »

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #378 on: Sep 18, 2004 at 06:48 PM »
DViant is right.

There are only consumer models of HD camcoder presently in the market:

1.) JVC GR-HD1 - the standard version. ($3500 official retail)
2.) JVC JY-HD10- the pro version of the above. ($4000 official retail)

These are identical cameras minus a few tweaks for the pro version. They are both 1280 X 720 Progressive with 1 CCD at 1.18 Megapixel. I have the JY-HD10.

Sony is comng out very, very soon with

3.) Sony HDR-FX1 ($3700 retail)

The Sony is 3 CCD Device at 1440 X 1080 Interlaced resolution
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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #379 on: Sep 18, 2004 at 07:40 PM »
The JVC JY-HD10 (and the GR-HD1) both come with a bundled software.

Included is the MPEG Edit Pro LE 1.2 which is feaure-reduced version of KDDI's (of Japan)$4,800 MPEG Edit Pro. It is not an easy program to use but once you get the hang of it. It is very, very powerful Non Linear Editing (NLE) software.

Just like DVD's HD is also an MPEG stream but the camcorder’s HDV acquisition format presents some unique problems for post-production.

DVDs use MPEG-2-encoded video that has been encapsulated into a program stream. A program stream is generated from one (or more) audio plus one (or more) video elementary streams.

An audio elementary stream for a DVD can be 16-bit, 48kHz PCM; AC-3 (Dolby Digital); or DTS Surround Sound. A DVD can have one or more types of soundtracks. Of course, it can also have multiple audio tracks as on a multilingual DVD. A DVD's video elementary stream is encoded as MPEG-2. If the DVD offers multiple angles, each angle is a unique MPEG-2 stream.

A program stream generator takes elementary streams and weaves them together in a single stream. Once this stream is assembled, it can be burned to a DVD. To play back a DVD, software or hardware examines the data stream to find the audio and video streams. A header identifies every stream's type.


Now, here is where the HD differs from DVD.

The HDV format has two elementary streams. The total data bandwidth is 19Mbps for 720p and 25Mbps for 1080i. A camcorder's 16-bit, 48kHz audio is encoded as MPEG-1, Layer 2. The stereo channels have a combined data rate of 384kbps. On disk, this type of stream should have an .mp2 file extension. Video is encoded, of course, using MPEG-2. More specifically, for both SD (480p) and HD (720p), JVC's HD10 uses a closed, IBBP, six-frame GOP. The video data rate is 17.8Mbps using constant bit rate (CBR) encoding. On disk, it should have an .m2v file extension.

These two elementary streams are woven into a single stream. For HDV, however, the stream is a transport stream — not a program stream. Simply put, a transport stream carries additional information that enables its cargo of video and audio data to withstand corrupting transmission conditions. On disk, this type of stream should have a .m2t file extension, but typically will have an .mpg extension.

The software and hardware that process a program stream cannot process a transport stream. This is the crux of the difficulty in playing, editing, and generating HDV.This is why ordinary MPEG-2 software on your computer can not handle a transport stream.

To edit HDV material, a transport stream must be “demuxed” into audio and video elementary streams. This can be accomplished using a separate utility — or the capability could be built into an NLE. NLEs that can accept a transport stream include MPEG Edit Studio Pro 1.2 LE and Vegas 4.0. While neither Adobe Premiere 6.5 nor Premiere Pro can import MPEG-2 transport streams, they can import Wavelet-compressed files from Aspect HD.

MPEG Edit Studio Pro 1.2 LE supports two A/V tracks. Each track has a video and channel. Imported HDV clips fill both channels in a track. Simple transitions (dissolves and wipes) can be placed between video channels. Video inserts into a channel can also be performed. Simple titles can be placed in a video channel as well.




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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #380 on: Sep 18, 2004 at 09:07 PM »
What is nice about MPEG Edit Pro is that you can downconvert HD footages to DVD.

The result of video from a HD master  just shines!!!!

It is even better than DVD's taken from the industry favorite Canon XL1S. The XL1S which is a true pro 3 CCD device




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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #381 on: Sep 18, 2004 at 09:53 PM »
Naturally I am right. Thanks for mentioning my DV cam. ;)

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #382 on: Sep 20, 2004 at 12:29 AM »
Great camera! Options galore!

I used to have one.

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #383 on: Sep 20, 2004 at 12:31 AM »
Thought of selling it for a XL2 but thought better.

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #384 on: Sep 20, 2004 at 09:47 PM »
HUHM? ..... Thanks for a very good explanation. Grabe pala ang hd editing. huhm, tsaka yun mga cameras, yun talagang mga top of the line. if im not mistaken, XL1's was used by george lucas. To buy a camera like this, is surely a good investment. Just want to ask, if is worth it? considering ofcourse that you are enjoying shooting and editing. btw, i am only targetting to buy a canon optura 400. Thats only how far can my budget go. =) For now, hoping i will be succesful editors like you are...

Thanks for the very warm reply.
ciao=)
onie.

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #385 on: Sep 20, 2004 at 10:24 PM »
Dont worry the price will go down once it becomes mainstream in the year 2020.

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #386 on: Sep 20, 2004 at 10:47 PM »
With Sony's entry into the HD Camcoder world, competition should start to drive the prices down.

I've seen the GR-HD1 for as low as $1700.00 (retail is $3500).

More software developers should get into the play also as soon as HD become mainstream. CCD chips should start dropping also as any microchip. I doubt it will take as long as 2020 (at least here in the US and Japan).

Canon is a member of the HDV consortium and they should have a HD Cam ready for least CES (Consumer Electronic Show) in Las Vegas in January. Or, as early as October for the Videomakers convention in October in New Jersey.

Everybody is waiting for others to come out with their HD Camcoder. It should get interesting when that happens. We're all waiting for a progressive scan at 24 fps on these cameras. 24 fps is one of the major features of the new Canon XL2.

At least in HD Cam world, there is only one standard (like the DVD). It's unlike the HD DVD which has three major proposed standards, that's why it slow to take off.

US is suppose to switch to all digital TV broadcast by 2007.
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« Reply #387 on: Sep 20, 2004 at 10:53 PM »
Picture of the Sony HD Cam


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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #388 on: Sep 20, 2004 at 11:15 PM »
if you want the best possible way to record your family vacation videos that's the cam to get. SD will become passe when your kids are your age. everyone will be on hdtv!

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Re: Share your HTPC Setup
« Reply #389 on: Sep 21, 2004 at 03:52 AM »
if you want the best possible way to record your family vacation videos that's the cam to get. SD will become passe when your kids are your age. everyone will be on hdtv!

very nice camera indeed.. but when on vacations... esp out of town or abroad, the size is a major factor. - the smaller the better. =)