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Title: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 02, 2003 at 10:57 AM
Hey there, I know there are a lot of DVD fanatics out there who use HTPCs like me :0

I'd like to start a thread, where you post your HTPC setups, maybe this could enlighten a lot of people who arent familiar with its capabilities and the kind of hardware needed if you want to build one.

We'll here's mine: :)
Hardware:
Athlon XP2000
512MB Ram
Geforce Ti4200
SB Audigy via Digital Spdif output to AVR

WinXP
Theatretek
FDshow upscale 960x720
Powerstrip at 1080i timings (720x540p)

Feel free to open any discussions, on how to setup, what softwares to use, where to buy parts, ETC. anything related to HTPCs :)  Share the HTPC LOVE!  

 
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Jun 02, 2003 at 10:59 AM
Pare,

You may want to also post approximate cost per component of what you listed and also when/where you got them.

This will give prospective new hobbyist to start thinking about the possibilities of HTPC in their HT set-ups :-)

I've been eyeing this for awhile, for now, I have to strike it out with an Xbox modified console and standard dvd player on my HT set-up.

regards,
-jackryan 8)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 02, 2003 at 11:14 AM
Costing is case to case.. depending on where you get your pc parts.  I did see a radeon 9500 for 8k at Sidewinder Festival mall.

By the way, if you own any PC hardware with a remote (eg. TV tuner, Audigy, etc.) theres this free software called girder, which you can download on www.girder.nl
With girder you can program any PC IR Remote to do almost anything you like say... hmmm control your favorite software DVD player?

Been using girder to control my PC from the couch, very usefull! especially if you have your HTPC sitting on your HT Rack.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jun 02, 2003 at 01:48 PM
My setup no1

Asus A7N266-VM Nforce 1 MB
athlon  1600xp
on board GF2 MX video
256 MB
40GB HDD
Liteon DVD-rom

Driving Sanyo SW-20A LCD projector and audio out to Yamaha RX 730


Planned New setup

Redfox M7NCG - nforce 2
Athlon  2500xp
512 MB
80GB Baracuda HDD
ATI AIW 8500Dv w/ Component Dongle
Philips combo Dvd drive...

Lian-li 9300 case

Driving Toshiba TN50X81 RPTV
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 02, 2003 at 02:45 PM
My setup no1

Asus A7N266-VM Nforce 1 MB
athlon  1600xp
ATI AIW 8500DV w/ component Dongle
256 MB
40GB HDD
Liteon DVD-rom


Planned New setup

Redfox M7NCG - nforce 2
Athlon  2500xp
512 MB
40GB HDD
undecided on video and Dvd drive...

Lian-li 9300 case


Yeah Nforce 2!!!! I wish I had that board it was just way overbudget when I was purchasing my Mobo, it will encode anything into ac-3... so you can even play games enhanced by EAX and get 5.1 on your HT.  Howmuch does an Athlon 2500 go nowadays?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Jayem Ares on Jun 02, 2003 at 07:24 PM
celeron 1g
40G HDD
256 mb memory
liteon cdrw
asus dvdrom
sb live 5.1
altec 251
3 layer rack
14 svga monitor
free agp
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 05, 2003 at 03:21 PM
My setup no1

Asus A7N266-VM Nforce 1 MB
athlon  1600xp
ATI AIW 8500DV w/ component Dongle
256 MB
40GB HDD
Liteon DVD-rom


Planned New setup

Redfox M7NCG - nforce 2
Athlon  2500xp
512 MB
40GB HDD
undecided on video and Dvd drive...

Lian-li 9300 case



Hey I checked out that Lian-li case pc-9300 it only allows a 150watt psu.. diba kulang yun for an AthlonXP ? baka pumutolk lang ang psu. I looked it up.. it says that the case allows for a 150wat SFX psu.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jun 06, 2003 at 02:43 PM
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Hey I checked out that Lian-li case pc-9300 it only allows a 150watt psu.. diba kulang yun for an AthlonXP ? baka pumutolk lang ang psu. I looked it up.. it says that the case allows for a 150wat SFX psu.

Yes it does say 150 watts, but mine came w/ 235watts.. Also my other rig an enlight case w/ has a similar size psu also has 235 , and only the psu fan as exhaust is running fine....

Pls. note that the shuttle XPC's have 200 watts only. But they are running 3000xp bartons and 2 hard disk + dvd writer and ati aiw 9800 pros on their small case

P.S. the lian-li  9300 is not assembled yet as don't have the mobo .. I got my toshiba running so the pixel plus is not a big priority too.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 06, 2003 at 03:10 PM
Yes it does say 150 watts, but mine came w/ 235watts.. Also my other rig an enlight case w/ has a similar size psu also has 235 , and only the psu fan as exhaust is running fine....

Pls. note that the shuttle XPC's have 200 watts only. But they are running 3000xp bartons and 2 hard disk + dvd writer and ati aiw 9800 pros on their small case

P.S. the lian-li  9300 is not assembled yet as don't have the mobo .. I got my toshiba running so the pixel plus is not a big priority too.

really? I had a 300 watt psu, popped, then I switched to a 350 wat psu.. popped.. now I'm using a 475 watt psu so far so good, I'm using an athlon xp 2000  2 hardrive, 1 dvdrom, 1 cdwriter,  ti4200, sb audigy, and a pctv card. and 2 case fans

apparently di nakayanan ng 300w and 350w psu ko dahil pareho sila pumutok when I changed my mobo and chip to an athlon xp dati kasi P3 1ghz lang CPU ko

Anyways, I hope you can make a review your your case once you get it up and running! keep me posted! :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schadow1 on Jun 08, 2003 at 10:47 PM
My primary HTPC setup

Asus A7N8X Deluxe w/ Nforce2 Soundstorm
AthlonXP 2400+ TbredB
Swiftech H20-8500 Water cooling
1GB DDR333 Kingston
ATi Radeon 9700 Pro
Sony Wega 25 in.
Logitech Z-680 THX certified 5.1 Speakers via SPDIF Soundstorm
120GB HDD
Liteon 163D DVD-rom 16x/48x
HP DVD Writer 300i  4x2.4x8x - 16x10x40x
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 09, 2003 at 08:02 AM
My primary HTPC setup

Asus A7N8X Deluxe w/ Soundstorm
AthlonXP 2400+ TbredB
Swiftech H20-8500 Water cooling
1GB DDR333 Kingmax
ATi Radeon 9700 Pro
Sony Wega 25 in.
Logitech Z-680 THX certified 5.1 Speakers
120GB HDD
Liteon 163D DVD-rom 16x/48x
HP DVD Writer 300i  4x2.4x8x - 16x10x40x

Hey cool setup! have you tried doing 1080i with your radeon? is there are really big difference with 540p? I'm thinking of upgrading my video card, but 1080i is my deciding factor.  Right now, my Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 can only do non-interlaced resolutions so I'm set to 540p (540p = 1080i in terms of frequency and timing, 540p x 2 = 1080i).  If the picture is so much better with 1080i I will change my video. :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schadow1 on Jun 09, 2003 at 08:32 AM
Pardon my ignorance jpadua. What does the 1080i setting do? Is it primarily a setting for TV out or for CRT? What are its effects? If it is for CRT, wouldn't it be stretched for a workstation and smaller for a desktop resolution?

I use this PC as my HTPC but as my 3D authoring and video compositing station as well. If it only works at 720x540, then it's not for me.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 09, 2003 at 08:56 AM
Pardon my ignorance jpadua. What does the 1080i setting do? Is it primarily a setting for TV out or for CRT? What are its effects? If it is for CRT, wouldn't it be stretched for a workstation and smaller for a desktop resolution?

I use this PC as my HTPC but as my 3D authoring and video compositing station as well. If it only works at 720x540, then it's not for me.

Thanks.

I see, well actually it is an output setting for a high defenition TV.  Most of the new HD TV's can accept horizonal resolutions of:

480interlaced - standard tv resolution
480progressive  - standard progressive scan resolution
540 progressive - progressive scan counterpart of 1080i
576progressive  - standard Pal tv 100hz resolution
720progressive  - HD TV Highest resolution
1080interlaced - HD TV resolition

Now if you have an HD TV usually these tv's have a VGA input socket, which you can connect to a video card on a PC.  Thus the HTPC.  Using your PC as a Video Scaler and Player to watch Video content on your HD TV.

With an HTPC you can have more content for your HD TV, since there aren't any HD broadcasts here yet, you can upscale DVD content to HD resolutions and have the best picture quality from a standard DVD that beats the hell out of a regular DVD player which only outputs in 480p or 480i

my DVD resolution now is 960x720 scaled to 540p (normal DVD resolution on a standard player is 720x480 in 480i or p) plus since its running on a PC you can tweak it even more. I'm also using a sharpening filter which puts the DVD content slightly under HD quality.  This is the closest we can get to an HD picture, but its quite stunning.

So far this is the highest quality you can get from an HD TV, but of course as a workstation you can get higher resolutions on a standard monitor.  

Hope this helps!



Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schadow1 on Jun 09, 2003 at 06:52 PM
hmm.. so that was it. thanks for the info. unfortunately, i don't an HDTV :(
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Jun 09, 2003 at 07:14 PM
my DVD resolution now is 960x720 scaled to 540p (normal DVD resolution on a standard player is 720x480 in 480i or p) plus since its running on a PC you can tweak it even more. I'm also using a sharpening filter which puts the DVD content slightly under HD quality.  This is the closest we can get to an HD picture, but its quite stunning.
Hi jpadua,

From my understanding of the DVD standard it can only go up to 720x480 (NTSC) & 720x576 (PAL). Where did you get the additional resolution?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 10, 2003 at 08:33 AM
Hi jpadua,

From my understanding of the DVD standard it can only go up to 720x480 (NTSC) & 720x576 (PAL). Where did you get the additional resolution?

Yes thats true DVDs are encoded at 720x480, I use a video post processor that resizes the overlay and sharpens it at the same time at a perpixel level, upscaling the source material with detail, and not just blowing up the picture size including the pixels.  If only my computer was even more powerful I could probabably upscale DVD content to 1080p for real HD resolution, kaso di kaya ng computer ko hehehe.  Anyway its called FFDSHOW and is a free download, you can use this filter with Zoomplayer or Theatretek... I suggest Theatretek, its the best software DVD player in my opinion. :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 17, 2003 at 10:37 PM
here's my rig:

AMD thundebird 1ghz (overclocked at 1.3MGhz)
ASUS A7v 133
1gig PC133
SB LIVE!
GEFORCE 4 440MX 128DDR
LITEON 16X48X  DVD
LITEON 48X24X48X
CREATIVE 52X IR
120 GIG SEAGATE BARRACUDA
2 1.44 FDD
AOC 17inch KVLR
HP895C
ACER SLIM SCANNER
Creative Cambridge Digital 5.1
Altec Lansing 45.1
Intel web Cam
CASIO EXILIM 2.0 MEGAPIXEL DIGICAM
Looking forward to AMD 3GHz processor+compatible setup.
Plus Dell CPx650 laptop courtesy of Analog Devices .

Operating System:
Multiple boot:
1. Win ME
2. Windows 2000 Advance Server
3. WinXP
4. Redhat Linux 6.0
5. Linux Mandrake


Now im itching to "real" HT. Hay naku buhay, walang katapusan sa new technology.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 19, 2003 at 09:49 AM
This is a bit off topic, but can Radeon users share their experiences with the card? I'm planning on upgrading my Video Card, I just want better DVD picture. has anyone been able to play a DVD using a Radeon using 1080i?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jun 20, 2003 at 11:17 AM
jpadua.. on the same monitor a 19" CRT my All in Wonder 8500DV has better 2d output than my MSI GF2 Ti Card.. Particularly on higher output resolutions like 1280 x 960 or higher.. The display is less fuzzy

PS. updated my HTPC setup.. The PSU on the 9300 seems to be fine.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 20, 2003 at 11:28 AM
PS. updated my HTPC setup.. The PSU on the 9300 seems to be fine.

Hi Mr. Jambam,

Thats great! so the standard PSU dimensions fit in a PC9300??? what psu are you using? ilang watts? wow.. suerte mo you were able to get one available here.. I asked already some lian li distributors, they really dont carry it unless, its ordered and you have to wait for their next shipment para i sabay.  

I wonder.. I wish I could see your HTPC case for so I can be sure na ok.. before I do try to book an order for the case. mahal din kasi
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jun 20, 2003 at 01:11 PM
Nope you need a micro ATX Psu so it is smaller. Mine was rated at 235watts.

Maybe next week we could schedule some time .  
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 20, 2003 at 01:46 PM
ahh sayang naman, my psu is an HEC 475 watt, baka di kasya
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MS on Jun 21, 2003 at 07:08 AM
Jpadua,

Sent u a PM
Title: How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: jpadua on Jun 24, 2003 at 10:50 AM
jpadua,

PLEASE HELP :-[ I assembled my PC but the bad thing is I didn't follow your advice on the spec of an HTPC. My setup are as follows:

AMD Athlon 2.4 XP Copper Cool
Asus A7V8X 8X gp kt400 DDR
INNO3D GF4 MX440SE 64MB DDR TV
VOLCANO 6 CU+ FAN
VGA EXTENSION CABLE 6 FT.
SEAGATE 40 GIG 5400RPM
SAMSUNG COMBO 48/24/48CDRW/16X
256MB PC333 DDR

Now, the installation of the windows XP worked fine with some visible wavy lines, then when the windows was loading after the installation, it went blank.

Hindi ba kaya ng set-up ko yung resolution na kailangan ng pixelplus? the screen prompted that the pc set up resolution is set to low and asked whether to adjust the resolution to fit the current monitor (pixelplus). When we clicked yes it went blank.

Will increasing the RAM from 256 to 512 or more will do the trick? Masyado na kasing mahal kung bibili pa ako ng Raedeon na video card worth P8k right? Hindi ba enough yung videocard ko or yung setup ko ??? What should I do to make it work without incurring additional cost aside from increasing the RAM ???

I hope you can help me and also the other guru out there.

Thanks :)

Hi Dongkhoi,

I already know what the problem is, ;D I also encountered that the first time.

All HDTV's accept 640x480@60hz resolution. So that includes your our Pixelplus (BTW did you get the 29" or the 34" sarap pag naka 34" ka! mine is 29")

First thing you have to do is, use a standard monitor first to set the proper resolutions. do not connect it to you TV until you have set all the correct resolutions on your PC.

Pixel plus, accepts the following resolutions

progressive scan resolutions
640x480p
720x480p
720x576p
720x540p
960x540p

Interlaced resolutions
(all the interlaced resolutions are good for gaming, especially the 1280x1024 since this fills the whole screen)
800x600i
1024x768i
1280x1024i (best fo gaming)
1440x1080i (best for DVD playback if your card supports it e.g. radeon)

Very important information you must know about TV's especially your pixel plus.

TVs aren't multi scan unlike PC monitors. So they can only accept a certain horizontal and vertical frequency.
The standards are as follows:

NTSC 60Hz vertical and close to 34Khz horizontal
PAL 50hz vertical close to 31Khz horizontal
Pixel plus accepts both NTSC and PAL signals.

(I suggest you print this so that later when you set up it would be easier to reference, this may be a bit extensive)

Step by step guide.

1. connect a pc monitor to your computer and boot up

2. set your desktop resolution to 640x480, right click on desktop, then properties, then settings, then advanced, adaptor, list all modes. Select 640x480 60hz.  Windows XP will auto matically adjust your vertical refresh rate to the highest your monitor will support thats why you have to go through the whole list and select 60HZ so you are in the NTSC range. Go back to settings, then advanced but this time click on the Monitor Tab. Click properties->driver->update driver->display list of known drivers->show all hardware->Sony Corporation->Sony GDM-W900.  Your monitor now will now display GDM-W900 as your default monitor. (You need to select this because the GDM-W900 allows all resolutions to be set, if you use standard monitor some resolutions will not be available).

3. after you're desktop settings have changed, without shutting down your computer, remover your monitor and plug in your Pixelplus and switch to AV3 (this is where the VGA connector is). Congratulations, you now have a 640x480 screen on your TV.  Now that you have tested your TV. unplug it again, then plug your monitor back in.

4. Install a utility called Powerstrip make sure its V.3.3 so you have the latest HD resolutions.

5. After installing powerstrip, you will find a small powerstrip icon on your tray near the clock. Right click and select options->properties->quicksetup->rescan.  Here you will tell powerstrip that 640x480@60hz is the default resolution and the GDM-W900 as the default monitor.  (you need to do this so that you can always revert back to 640x480 via hotkey).

6. right click options->hotkey manager, turn it on and remember the hot key to return back to default ... default is usually ctrl-alt-s.

7. now its time to setup your HD resolutions. right-click powerstrip icon on tray, then click on display profiles-> configure->advanced timing options, custom resolutions.
Now its time to add a resolution, scan the list for HD resolutions. Select 960x540 hdtv derived, look at the right panel, and change 960 to 720 (since our pixelplus is 4:3 not 16:9) make sure that the vertical and horizontal frequencies are 60hz and 34khz respectively.
then click add resolution.  Powerstrip will inform you whether your video card has accepted the resolution, or will ask you to reboot. After this, click all the nesessary buttons to close the powerstrip window, make sure the power strip is still active and sitting on the tray.

5. go back to your desktop and rightclick properties->settings->advanced->adapter->list all modes.  Look for 720x540@60hz. And select it. After your desktop settings have changed, test it again on your TV by removing your monitor and plugging your video card to the vga port on your TV and select AV3 again. You will now see your desktop on the TV! you may notice a little overscan or maybe the screen isnt centered.  To fix this, right click on the powerstirp icon on the tray, select display profiles again->configure->advanced timing options. on the left panel you will see arrows, position and size, only move the left and right arrows to center, do not click on the other arrows cause this will make changes to the vertical and horizontal frequencies.  Adjust to your liking then click OK.  Then click save as. 720 x 540 pixels, TrueColor (32 bit). then OK to exit.  Now when you right click powerstrip display profiles, you will see a new resolution 720x540!

Ok more or less thats it, nextime you reboot your computer, you can leave the TV connected now. And you will be displaying 720x540.

Why 720x540? cause.. your Geforce Card, does not fully support interlaced desktop resolution (only works in games) since 1080i is what we are gunning for, 1080 interlced is just 540lines odd and 540 lines even being displayed one at a time so this would be the same as 540 progressive. Your TV will detect your resolution as 1080i.

You can experiment with other resolutions, using the same steps when setting up our 720x540 res. Remember anytime you screw up your screen, you can always press.. ctrl-alt-s to go back to 640x480 and get your desktop back and try again.

You can always experiment with different resolutions, always remember to be as close as possible to 60hz and 34khz for NTSC and 50hz and 31.5khz for PAL.

The best resolution I have been successfully able to set is 960x540p so you get the full lines from your DVD Disc.
I Use Theatretek bacuse I can Fix Aspect ratios, and resize the DVD playback overlay.  Since I am using 960x540, the picture looks tall so I just do a software vertical squeeze.

Good luck in setting up your PC! I hope this would help you.

There are still a lot of Tweeks we can do to even get a much sharper and higher resolution picture!!! thats why I love HTPCs hehehe, like using VMR9, FFDshow Video Processor, Video upscaling etc.. but we can tackle that some other time, when you have been able to get comfy with your PC connected to your HDTV ;D

For now, enjoy! DVD HDTV Heaven!

By the way, your Geforce 4MX440 SE 64 is ok to begin with once you start tweeking you will itch for a better video card.  If you are interested, I'm selling my Inno3d GeForce 4 ti4200 128mb... I'm planning to get a radeon soon.

Jay
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dongkhoi on Jun 24, 2003 at 01:56 PM
jpadua,

Oh crap!!! I didn't expect you will answer my query this fast and this loooong :o

Whatever the outcome is JAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH ;D ;D ;D

I'll try this today

Thank you ng maramiiiiiiiiiiii

PS mine is only 29"

Dongkhoi
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 24, 2003 at 02:12 PM
jpadua,

Oh s**t!!! I didn't expect you will answer my query this fast and this loooong :o

Whatever the outcome is JAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH ;D ;D ;D

I'll try this when I go home today

Thank you ng maramiiiiiiiiiiii

PS mine is only 29"

Dongkhoi

No Problem dude! Hobbyist talaga ako sa HTPC, so medyo marami na akong naresearch, nabasa, naexperiment, nagastos, not to mention with the pixel plus.

I even know how to adjust your pixelplus, horizontal and vertical orientation, you need to punch service code on your remote... but that should be the last thing to adjust if only you need it, cause if you make a mistake you can screw up your TV hehehe. But if you need it I can give you the service code.  I had to find the service code before, kasi when I displayed DVD's at 540p I noticed that there was a rainbow colored line sa pinaka top edge ng screen... at first ok lang... naging irritation saakin hehe so I had to nudge the vertical alignment on the TV para di makita yung rainbowline na yun hehehe.

Tell me how your setup went.  ;D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jun 24, 2003 at 02:57 PM
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ahh sayang naman, my psu is an HEC 475 watt, baka di kasya

Talagang hindi kasya, but if you will not be using the power I don't think you need more. The quality of the psu is just as important really.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 25, 2003 at 08:50 AM
Talagang hindi kasya, but if you will not be using the power I don't think you need more. The quality of the psu is just as important really.

Kaya ba ng 275watt and athlon XP and A radeon? diba yung mga bagong radeon needs external power pa from the PSU, not to mention all the case fans pa?  I used to have 250watt psu, pumutok, upgraded to 350 pumutok din, now I'm at 475 so far so good. I was only using an Athlon XP, Geforce Ti4200, Pinnacle PCTV capture card, and an Audigy.

Jay
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jun 25, 2003 at 11:18 AM
I have 2 setups w/ 1700 XP  and tried bought w/ Radeon AIW 8500Dv bought are using 235 W micro atx PSUs . Which is much smaller than regular ATX  6 x 4 x 3 inch ata ang size .  One is made by enlight w/c should be good and the other I don't have the brand ...

I am sure you're experience makes you very consious. But I have have read  of users using a 3000 XP barton + AIW 9700 pro + 120 G HDD + Sony DVD - + R on a 200 watt psu w/ their shuttle XPC SN42G2 SFF cube PC's.  And this was my original wish but could not get one from the distributor....

Anyway you'll have to try if you want a smaller setup. I had no choice as I wanted the micro atx form factor and my trial was succesfull thankfully.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jun 25, 2003 at 05:35 PM
hi jay,

my pc setup is as follows:

Atlon xp 2100 ghz
globalwin cak-488 fan
epox 8rda nforce 2 mobo
512 mb pc333 ddr
128 mb geforce 4 ti4200-8x
40 gig maxtor 7200 rpm
sony 8/2/32 cdrw
pioneer dvdrom drive
enermax 350 watts psu
19" samsung syncmaster 900nf monitor

I was planning to get 36 sony xbr450 with drc-mf my friend is selling.do you think it can handle the resolutions you've mentioned above.tnx
Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: dongkhoi on Jun 26, 2003 at 09:15 AM

7. now its time to setup your HD resolutions. right-click powerstrip icon on tray, then click on display profiles-> configure->advanced timing options, custom resolutions.
Now its time to add a resolution, scan the list for HD resolutions. Select 960x540 hdtv derived, look at the right panel, and change 960 to 720 (since our pixelplus is 4:3 not 16:9) make sure that the vertical and horizontal frequencies are 60hz and 34khz respectively.
then click add resolution.  Powerstrip will inform you whether your video card has accepted the resolution, or will ask you to reboot. After this, click all the nesessary buttons to close the powerstrip window, make sure the power strip is still active and sitting on the tray.

5. go back to your desktop and rightclick properties->settings->advanced->adapter->list all modes.  Look for 720x540@60hz. And select it. After your desktop settings have changed, test it again on your TV by removing your monitor and plugging your video card to the vga port on your TV and select AV3 again. You will now see your desktop on the TV! you may notice a little overscan or maybe the screen isnt centered.  To fix this, right click on the powerstirp icon on the tray, select display profiles again->configure->advanced timing options. on the left panel you will see arrows, position and size, only move the left and right arrows to center, do not click on the other arrows cause this will make changes to the vertical and horizontal frequencies.  Adjust to your liking then click OK.  Then click save as. 720 x 540 pixels, TrueColor (32 bit). then OK to exit.  Now when you right click powerstrip display profiles, you will see a new resolution 720x540!
 

jpadua,

I tried to set it up last night, everything worked fine except when :

I'm already trying to add a resolution, by scanning the list for HD resolutions. When I selected 960x540 hdtv derived and look at the right panel, and change 960 to 720 and vertical and horizontal frequencies are 60hz and 34khz respectively.

I did all that and the pc asked me to reboot which I did, then I went back to the desktop and rightclick properties->settings->advanced->adapter->list all modes.  Look for 720x540@60hz

I can't find the 720x540@60hz among the choices, that's why the tv screen overlapped on all sides.

What should I do about it? the powerstrip is version 3.4 already.

The tv screen is also a little bit grainy as it moves like a wave around the whole screen, what should I do about it?

Next is how do I set up the sound? can I connect my soundcard directly to my AVR? What cable should I buy?

I hope you can help me again jay and thank you. :D :D :D

dongkhoi
Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: jpadua on Jun 26, 2003 at 03:01 PM
jpadua,

I tried to set it up last night, everything worked fine except when :

I'm already trying to add a resolution, by scanning the list for HD resolutions. When I selected 960x540 hdtv derived and look at the right panel, and change 960 to 720 and vertical and horizontal frequencies are 60hz and 34khz respectively.

I did all that and the pc asked me to reboot which I did, then I went back to the desktop and rightclick properties->settings->advanced->adapter->list all modes.  Look for 720x540@60hz

I can't find the 720x540@60hz among the choices, that's why the tv screen overlapped on all sides.

What should I do about it? the powerstrip is version 3.4 already.

The tv screen is also a little bit grainy as it moves like a wave around the whole screen, what should I do about it?

Next is how do I set up the sound? can I connect my soundcard directly to my AVR? What cable should I buy?

I hope you can help me again jay and thank you. :D :D :D

dongkhoi

Hi, did you remember to specify the Sony GD-W900 monitor? Windows XP bases the resolutions displayed by your monitor.  Make sure you have the Sony GD-w900 selected as your monitor connected.  When you view the list.. you will find 720x540@60 :)

I'm not sure about the grainy part and the wavy picture.. thats not supposed to be there. anyway.. once you get 720x540 running, maybe you will lose the grainyness and the wavyness... experiment first.

With regards, to your output to your AVR.  Make sure that you have a digital Spdif output.  What soundcard are you using? you have to have a soundcard with a digital out, like the Audigy.  With the audigy just use a mono minijack to RCA plug then plug it into the Spdif Coaxial on your amp and select it.  On you  mixer board sa xp, select advanced then, place a tick on digital output.  make sure that AC-3 decoding is turned off (this is if you are using an audigy)

Tell me what happens to your setup ;D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 26, 2003 at 03:04 PM
hi jay,

my pc setup is as follows:

Atlon xp 2100 ghz
globalwin cak-488 fan
epox 8rda nforce 2 mobo
512 mb pc333 ddr
128 mb geforce 4 ti4200-8x
40 gig maxtor 7200 rpm
sony 8/2/32 cdrw
pioneer dvdrom drive
enermax 350 watts psu
19" samsung syncmaster 900nf monitor

I was planning to get 36 sony xbr450 with drc-mf my friend is selling.do you think it can handle the resolutions you've mentioned above.tnx

Hi Bigbird, as long as your TV can support, 480p / 1080i
you may be able to do any resolution with the same timings

like, 640x480, 720x480, 720x540, 960x540, you wont be able to do any 1080i cause Geforce doesnt support interlaced res for overlay, you may use its progressive counterpart which is 540p (1080i/2=540p).  The TV will still detect 540p as 1080i
Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: dongkhoi on Jun 26, 2003 at 04:58 PM
Hi, did you remember to specify the Sony GD-W900 monitor? Windows XP bases the resolutions displayed by your monitor.  Make sure you have the Sony GD-w900 selected as your monitor connected.  When you view the list.. you will find 720x540@60 :)

I'm not sure about the grainy part and the wavy picture.. thats not supposed to be there. anyway.. once you get 720x540 running, maybe you will lose the grainyness and the wavyness... experiment first.

With regards, to your output to your AVR.  Make sure that you have a digital Spdif output.  What soundcard are you using? you have to have a soundcard with a digital out, like the Audigy.  With the audigy just use a mono minijack to RCA plug then plug it into the Spdif Coaxial on your amp and select it.  On you  mixer board sa xp, select advanced then, place a tick on digital output.  make sure that AC-3 decoding is turned off (this is if you are using an audigy)

Tell me what happens to your setup ;D

Yes, I already specified the Sony GD-W900 I'm already in the: adding a resolution, by scanning the list for HD resolutions. When I selected 960x540 hdtv derived and look at the right panel, and change 960 to 720 and vertical and horizontal frequencies are 60hz and 34khz respectively.

Then the pc asked me to reboot, done that, then I went back to the desktop and rightclick properties->settings->advanced->adapter->list all modes.  Try to look for 720x540@60hz, which I can't find among the choices.

Apparantly my soundcard is built in the motherboard...so I need to buy another one? My mother board is ASUS A7V8X 8X AGP KT400 DDR.

Thanks



Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Jun 26, 2003 at 05:26 PM
Are your monitors larger than 27"?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dongkhoi on Jun 26, 2003 at 07:29 PM
Are your monitors larger than 27"?

yes it 29"
Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: jpadua on Jun 27, 2003 at 02:13 PM
Yes, I already specified the Sony GD-W900 I'm already in the: adding a resolution, by scanning the list for HD resolutions. When I selected 960x540 hdtv derived and look at the right panel, and change 960 to 720 and vertical and horizontal frequencies are 60hz and 34khz respectively.

Then the pc asked me to reboot, done that, then I went back to the desktop and rightclick properties->settings->advanced->adapter->list all modes.  Try to look for 720x540@60hz, which I can't find among the choices.

Apparantly my soundcard is built in the motherboard...so I need to buy another one? My mother board is ASUS A7V8X 8X AGP KT400 DDR.

Thanks

Hi Dongkhoi, taga saan ka ba? maybe I can drop by and help you setup your HTPC with your Pixel plus :D  how's it going na nga pala? were you able to setup your resolutions yet?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 27, 2003 at 02:14 PM
Nope you need a micro ATX Psu so it is smaller. Mine was rated at 235watts.

Maybe next week we could schedule some time .  

yeah, I want to checkout your case ;D maybe I could bring my HTPC and show you what it can do :) kahit s-video lang :D with the upscaling
Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: dongkhoi on Jun 27, 2003 at 02:27 PM


I'm from QC near Kamias. I can't seem to adjust the screen to 720x540 hence, all the sides overlapped the whole screen. I tried it many times pero ayaw talaga.

With regards to the grainy screen, I think it has something to do with interference or something.

Sige dude, if you have the time please tell me so we can schedule kung kailan tayo magkikita. My number pala is 0920 921-6414.

Thanks ;)

Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: jpadua on Jun 27, 2003 at 02:39 PM
I'm from QC near Kamias. I can't seem to adjust the screen to 720x540 hence, all the sides overlapped the whole screen. I tried it many times pero ayaw talaga.

With regards to the grainy screen, I think it has something to do with interference or something.

Sige dude, if you have the time please tell me so we can schedule kung kailan tayo magkikita. My number pala is 0920 921-6414.

Thanks ;)



Yikes! layo pala! hehe I'm from Las Pinas hehehe... actualy I was thinking it also could be that your Geforce MX doesnt support this resolution.  I'm using a GeForce 4 Ti4200 and I get this resolution easily... were you able to get other resolutions?
Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: dongkhoi on Jun 27, 2003 at 05:15 PM
Yikes! layo pala! hehe I'm from Las Pinas hehehe... actualy I was thinking it also could be that your Geforce MX doesnt support this resolution.  I'm using a GeForce 4 Ti4200 and I get this resolution easily... were you able to get other resolutions?

i haven't tried it yet but if i do, do you have any other resolutions in mind? ::)


Title: Re:How to setup your PC for HD resolution
Post by: jpadua on Jun 27, 2003 at 05:31 PM
i haven't tried it yet but if i do, do you have any other resolutions in mind? ::)



Actually I'm using 960x540p its the best one...
then I use the vertical squeeze on the TV

If you use a soft DVD player, you would be getting a tall picture right? so what I did, I'm using Theatretek, its another Software DVD player, but you can control the correct aspect ratio, so if the picture is tall, I just use theatretek to squeez the picture to the correct aspect ratio.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jun 28, 2003 at 12:15 AM
hi guys,i've been doing some research on the net and here is what i came up with.for those hdtv sets that doesn't have a vga/rgb connection and only has component connection .i found two ways to go about connecting your pc to your hdtv.one is through the ATI hdtv component adapter for use with the radeon series of cards,basically its a dongle that adds a component out to your  radeon video card.the other way is through a transcoder which is a device that converts vga/rgb to component.my only problem is that I dont think its available locally.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 28, 2003 at 09:44 AM
hi guys,i've been doing some research on the net and here is what i came up with.for those hdtv sets that doesn't have a vga/rgb connection and only has component connection .i found two ways to go about connecting your pc to your hdtv.one is through the ATI hdtv component adapter for use with the radeon series of cards,basically its a dongle that adds a component out to your  radeon video card.the other way is through a transcoder which is a device that converts vga/rgb to component.my only problem is that I dont think its available locally.

Yeah, muntik na ako magpabili ng VGA to Component Transcoder! mahal.. but that's the best way... The component dongle of the Radeons is ok too considering that its only $30 and it comes free with the All in Wonder starting from the 8500 series.

Only problem with the Component Dongle of ATI is that it has set resolutions, and I'm not sure if its compatible with powerstrip.  To activate the Dongle you have to use the Catalyst drivers.  Plus there's no way to adjust the overscan.  but for the price Id go with an ATI heheh
the Transcoder itself is almost as expensive as a graphics card already... so it might be better to by a radeon and a ati component dongle instead :D

Yep its not available locally, ATI is really hard pressed here, the graphics card market is dominated by Nvidia :( so sa states nalang ako pabili.  By the way ATI also has a PC remote control which makes the HTPC sooo much cooler!!! astig!
Title: Finally got my RADEON 9600 Pro!!!
Post by: jpadua on Jul 21, 2003 at 01:55 PM
Finally got a Radeon 9600pro! I'm now playing DVDs at 1080i on my HDTV whoah! nicey nicey me likey likey. doing 1620x1440 software resize and sharpen then Hardware downsize to 1080i  
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 21, 2003 at 02:19 PM
Where did you buy your card and how much,I'm also thinking of upgrading my geforce4 ti4200-8x,is it true that there is a big difference in performance between the geforce and the radeon when it comes to dvd playback?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 21, 2003 at 03:22 PM
Where did you buy your card and how much,I'm also thinking of upgrading my geforce4 ti4200-8x,is it true that there is a big difference in performance between the geforce and the radeon when it comes to dvd playback?

Yeah there is a big difference din, I think... I know that the Radeon Overlay is Superior to that of Nvidia, more vibrant colors.  To achieve the same quality with nvidia you have to use VMR9 although you add more CPU load.

Title: Update - Radeon
Post by: jpadua on Jul 28, 2003 at 08:48 AM
Hi Guys, recently got a Radeon 9600 pro, had problems setting it up, for 1080i.  Just wanted to share some tips.
1. Use Cat 3.4 - the newer cats do not allow interlaced resolution.
2. Use Powerstrip Beta version.. The release version does not include the new Radeons 9600/9800 but I guess they will make the beta a release soon, but as of now the beta's work fine.

It took me about 3 days to figure out what was wrong and got it right eventually... save yourself the hassle.  :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ots on Jul 28, 2003 at 10:13 AM
ATI branded ba yung card mo?

As far as I know, ATI cards cards are officially available in North America only.  This is part of  their agreement with OEMs that make cards with ATI chips.   What I'd like to know is if the ATI component video dongle works with OEM cards like Sapphire (which is availabel here).

If you'd like to go ATI on the cheap (relatively), go with the 9100 series cards (64mb version available for less than P4,000).  It's really a renamed 8500, ATI's previous king of the hill.   According to the Sapphire website, it has vga, dvi-d and s-video outs.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 28, 2003 at 10:33 AM
ATI branded ba yung card mo?

As far as I know, ATI cards cards are officially available in North America only.  This is part of  their agreement with OEMs that make cards with ATI chips.   What I'd like to know is if the ATI component video dongle works with OEM cards like Sapphire (which is availabel here).

If you'd like to go ATI on the cheap (relatively), go with the 9100 series cards (64mb version available for less than P4,000).  It's really a renamed 8500, ATI's previous king of the hill.   According to the Sapphire website, it has vga, dvi-d and s-video outs.

Actually the one I have is a Sapphire 9600pro, I'm not sure if the dongle works, becuase as far as I know, the dongle was designed for 9500 9700 and 9800 there is also a version of the dongle for lower rated radeons.  Right now I'm using a direct connection via VGA cable to the VGA input of my TV.  No need for the Dongle to connect to an HDTV.
Title: HTPC Modded Case
Post by: jpadua on Aug 04, 2003 at 09:55 AM
Converted an old Beige 386 Desktop case into an AthlonXP HTPC Case! Check it out!

AthlonXP2000
512DDR ram
ECS 333 mobo
Liteon DVD-rom
Liteon CDRW
Radeon 9600Pro
SB Audigy
40GB Seagate Barracuda
20GB Seagate Barracuda
HEC 475 PSU Dual Fan
2 Case Fans
1 Cardslot Antech Video Card Cooler Fan
IR Keyboard/Mouse

Tools Used:
Sander Drill Attachment
Rotary Tool and Cutting Discs
A few Spray cans

Bear with the pics took them lang with my phone :)

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/paintstripper.jpg)
Sander Attachment to strip the baige paint

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/casestripped.jpg)
Baremetal Case Cover

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/bosnyquickdry.jpg)
Bosny Acrylic Epoxy - fastest drying paint! 2-3 min

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/metalicblack.jpg)
Metalic Black... perfect for an Home Theater Setup Rack

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/convertedback.jpg)
Cut out the back panel to fit an ATX Mobo (used to be a 386 AT)

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/paintingface.jpg)
Painting the front Panel

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/componentsin.jpg)
Fit all the Peripherals

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/testbay.jpg)
Testing the the completed PC

(http://jaypadua.com/ht/finalcase.jpg)
Finished! connected to my HD TV :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ots on Aug 05, 2003 at 09:33 AM
what's the range of the IR keyboard?
I'm thinking puwedeng gawing remote control (a bit clunky though) in conjunction with some freeware.   RF keyboards might perform better, I think.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 05, 2003 at 09:57 AM
what's the range of the IR keyboard?
I'm thinking puwedeng gawing remote control (a bit clunky though) in conjunction with some freeware.   RF keyboards might perform better, I think.

Actually I have both, my first was a Logitech RF Keyboard/Mouse... problem with this was the range, 6M lang sometimes 8, but you'll be missing some keystrokes here and there, its also susceptible to intereference.. but no line of sight required.  The IR keyboard, as long you have line of sight... its very solid, no lag, no breakups, tested it from about 10 meters or so...

I like them both, I'm just enjoying the IR keyboard now since the mouse is built in. The IR Keyboard also works simultaneously with your RF Keyboard and Mouse/Trackball if connected at the same time.

Ive been trying to get the IR module to work with girder but to no avail, apparently all the IR plugins for girder only work for serial type IR ports and not USB (mine is USB) :(
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:55 AM
mine's not actually a Full HTPC...

-AMD Duron 800 - (waiting for the Bartons to become cheap)
-256x2 DDR333
-40gb 7200rpm
-64mb GF4MX 8x - Palit Daytona (s-video)
-Liteon DVD 16x
-Epox 8RDA+ v1.1 - Nforce2
-Creative 5.1 Inspire 5300

-svideo out to Widescreen Sony 28" BS: KV28FW1 from Pier


my main problem is the Jap menu in the TV and ghosting in my picture quality (very evident in dark scenes).

hope you guys can help me have a better picture qualtiy through "tweaking"

i use WinXP Pro
Powerstrip
PowerDVD 4
-gonna try later: PowerDVD 5, NvDVD and WinDVD 5

also gonna upload some pics later this week, hiramin ko muna digicam ng bro ko...
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 07, 2003 at 11:51 AM
bardigones - review naman ng tv mo when using it as a monitor ..yun desktop view nya and browsing? ayus naman ba?? clear naman ba?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 07, 2003 at 01:07 PM
bardigones - review naman ng tv mo when using it as a monitor ..yun desktop view nya and browsing? ayus naman ba?? clear naman ba?

I used to have an s-video setup before going HD, if you are using a Geforce card, use TVtool... this is way better than using the default s-video driver or Nvidia.  Didnt I send you TV tool before?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ots on Aug 07, 2003 at 02:36 PM
Quote
Ive been trying to get the IR module to work with girder but to no avail, apparently all the IR plugins for girder only work for serial type IR ports and not USB (mine is USB)  

Girder is an interesting shareware.  Have you seen it work in another setup?
I have an idea for a workaround:  1) Use the shareware PC Remote Control which is compatible with the keyboard.  It can run in the background, so your IR keyboard functions like a remote. 2) Use a learning remote or Palm remote control; maybe you can program the remote buttons according to the corresponding keystrokes.

We really should schedule a session so JPADUA can show off his HTPC and have a turoing session on graphedit, tvtool, etc. at the same time.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 07, 2003 at 04:24 PM
I used to have an s-video setup before going HD, if you are using a Geforce card, use TVtool... this is way better than using the default s-video driver or Nvidia.  Didnt I send you TV tool before?

i meant i wanted a review of his tvs picture quality..yeah i have tvtool..thanks
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 07, 2003 at 10:31 PM
tanong lang po mga experts.  what video card do you recommend for HTPC.  i am planning to connect it to my pixel plus tv.
initial specs:
P4 2.4C 800MHz FSB
Asus P4P800 Deluxe i865
2 x 256MB Kingston PC3200 DDR Memory for Dual DDR Channel Config
Video Card--??????  is GEForce4 128Mb FX5200 OK?

thanks :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 08, 2003 at 08:12 AM
tanong lang po mga experts.  what video card do you recommend for HTPC.  i am planning to connect it to my pixel plus tv.
initial specs:
P4 2.4C 800MHz FSB
Asus P4P800 Deluxe i865
2 x 256MB Kingston PC3200 DDR Memory for Dual DDR Channel Config
Video Card--??????  is GEForce4 128Mb FX5200 OK?

thanks :)

Lakas ng Machine mo! ayos yan. Actually you can use any graphics card. Of course I would recommend ATI since you can do interlaced resolutions with it (1080i) and I suggest you should. I use an ATI 9600pro but even an ATI Radeon VE is good for video playback, just go choose higher ATI's cards if you want better game performance. Geforce cards are ok but you can only go up to 540p.  Before connecting your computer to your Pixelplus, you have to make sure that the special resolutions are already set.  Set them using a regular monitor first to avoid damaging your TV.   Use powerstrip to create custom resolutions.  Remember your TV can only support 50 to 60hz vertical resolution
(pixelplus, we have the same TV) anything under or more than that can damage your TV.  Make sure that the resolutions you create with powerstrip fall under the allowable vertical frequencies.  
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 09, 2003 at 12:33 AM
my japanese surplus tv pics...


http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=15097;start=0#lastPost

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 09, 2003 at 07:03 AM
Lakas ng Machine mo! ayos yan. Actually you can use any graphics card. Of course I would recommend ATI since you can do interlaced resolutions with it (1080i) and I suggest you should. I use an ATI 9600pro but even an ATI Radeon VE is good for video playback, just go choose higher ATI's cards if you want better game performance. Geforce cards are ok but you can only go up to 540p.  Before connecting your computer to your Pixelplus, you have to make sure that the special resolutions are already set.  Set them using a regular monitor first to avoid damaging your TV.   Use powerstrip to create custom resolutions.  Remember your TV can only support 50 to 60hz vertical resolution
(pixelplus, we have the same TV) anything under or more than that can damage your TV.  Make sure that the resolutions you create with powerstrip fall under the allowable vertical frequencies.  
thanks.  will update you soon to get more advice.
shalom :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ots on Aug 09, 2003 at 03:55 PM
medyo OT.  Anybody considering a radical case mod like JPadua? FYI, True Value in Shangri-La is a having a buy one take one sale on Talon Power tools.  The "dremel" like hand tool sells for P3,170.

You can get another tool for your "take one" or better yet get another pdvd member to split the purchase and get two of the same kind.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 09, 2003 at 11:37 PM
some pics of my widescreen, connecting to my PC via s-video cable.

http://www.pbase.com/bardigones/widescreen
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 10, 2003 at 06:34 PM
INTEL PENTIUM 4 2.6C
512MB DDR400
80GIG CHEETACH ULTRA320 SCSI HDISK
20 GIG FUJITSU SCSI HDISK
ULTRA 2 WIDE SCSI CONTROLLER
ASUS P4PE MOBO
SAMSUNG DVD/WRITER COMBO
LG DVD-ROM
SAMSUNG CD - ROM
SONY DVD WRITER DRU500AX
SAMSUNG LCD 15INCH
MSI TI4200 8X
Title: DIY LCD Display
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:09 AM
Made my own LCD display screen over the weekend, still have to integrate this within the case but at least I got it working! here are some pics.

(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht2/cable.jpg)
Opened up an old Printer Cable, took note of wiring of the pins.  Soldered a small 5k rheostat to control the LCD contrast.

(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht2/circuit.jpg)
connected the wires to the correct pinouts on the LCD, connected a molex plug to power the backlight.

(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht2/lcd.jpg)
Just plugged my DIY LCD into the Parallel port, run the LCD Software.  (LCD Winamp Plug-in is so cool!)
Title: Re:DIY LCD Display
Post by: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:12 AM
Made my own LCD display screen over the weekend, still have to integrate this within the case but at least I got it working! here are some pics.

(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht2/cable.jpg)
Opened up an old Printer Cable, took note of wiring of the pins.  Soldered a small reheostat to control the LCD contrast.

(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht2/circuit.jpg)
connected the wires to the correct pinouts on the LCD, connected a molex plug to power the backlight.

(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht2/lcd.jpg)
Just plugged my DIY LCD into the Parallel port, run the LCD Software.  (LCD Winamp Plug-in is so cool!)

pare, ang lupet mo talaga !  ;D

This is great ! where did you source your LCD display and how much did you ended up paying for it?

For the schematics, did you patterned it from somewhere or just followed a gameplan you developed yourself.

Galing 'pre !  ::)
Title: Re:DIY LCD Display
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:17 AM
pare, ang lupet mo talaga !  ;D

This is great ! where did you source your LCD display and how much did you ended up paying for it?

For the schematics, did you patterned it from somewhere or just followed a gameplan you developed yourself.

Galing 'pre !  ::)

Since wala sa pinas ang mga LCD Displays talaga yung mga readymade na pang PC, almost broke open my old pager for the LCD hahah. Daming schematics floating around the internet.  basic pinouts lang direct from the parallel port to the LCD. If you have any old electronic equipment, and has and LCD... check if it has 14pins and 2 pins for +,- malamang pwede yun :D  the LCD has to be compatible with 44780 na LCD chip to be able to interface with a parallel port. :D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:27 AM
hello jay, tanong ulit...pwede na bang gamitin yung ATI Radeon 9200 256MB TD or VIVO by Powercolor para sa HTPC setup.  di ko alam kung pwede sya sa 1080p o lahat ba ng ATI kaya ng 1080p at pwede ba yun sa pixel plus?  di kaya ang presyo ng ATI9600pro, e.  pasensya ka na sa katatanong ko ha?

shalom :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:30 AM
hello jay, tanong ulit...pwede na bang gamitin yung ATI Radeon 9200 256MB TD or VIVO by Powercolor para sa HTPC setup.  di ko alam kung pwede sya sa 1080p o lahat ba ng ATI kaya ng 1080p at pwede ba yun sa pixel plus?  di kaya ang presyo ng ATI9600pro, e.  pasensya ka na sa katatanong ko ha?

shalom :)

Lahat ng Radeon kaya mag interlaced resolution.  :) I think kaya ang 1080i... I'm not sure lang.. pero malamang. 1080p di kaya ng pixel plus ah! baka masira! :D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:59 AM
ok.  ano ba gamit mong resolution sa pixel plus tv mo o ano ba yung recommended? pwede na ba yung 9200? ty ulit :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 09:07 AM
ok.  ano ba gamit mong resolution sa pixel plus tv mo o ano ba yung recommended? pwede na ba yung 9200? ty ulit :)

gamit kong resolution sa pixelplus is
1620x1080i for DVD playback

Pwede na yung 9200 :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 11, 2003 at 09:25 AM
INTEL PENTIUM 4 2.6C
512MB DDR400
80GIG CHEETACH ULTRA320 SCSI HDISK
20 GIG FUJITSU SCSI HDISK
ULTRA 2 WIDE SCSI CONTROLLER
ASUS P4PE MOBO
SAMSUNG DVD/WRITER COMBO
LG DVD-ROM
SAMSUNG CD - ROM
SONY DVD WRITER DRU500AX
SAMSUNG LCD 15INCH
MSI TI4200 8X
nice one :) malufet!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 10:24 AM
actually bitin ako e,and newbie for htpc kaso pag naadik ako sa htpc yari to hahaha,wuts yer set up?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 03:24 PM
actually bitin ako e,and newbie for htpc kaso pag naadik ako sa htpc yari to hahaha,wuts yer set up?

How do you connect your HTPC to your TV? S-video or through VGA cable?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 03:59 PM
whats gonna be better?vga is possible svideo is possible too,but whats better?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:20 PM
whats gonna be better?vga is possible svideo is possible too,but whats better?

VGA is much much much much much much much much better than s-video :)  

S-video uses DACs, Digital to Analog Converters.  Signal is compromised, plus you are only limited to the resolutions supported by the DACs highest would be 1024x768

Direct VGA you get a pure Signal from your videocard straight to your TV.  Clearest possible picture you can achieve playing a DVD to output to your TV/HD monitor.

My resolution is 1620x1080i ... maxed it out! :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:26 PM
tnx master,i have a kiss dvd player which i am not so familliar it has an option of rgb and its resolution for progressive scan and it has vga out put resolution changes too,whats better?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:27 PM
dang u really did max it out! :P
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:38 PM
tnx master,i have a kiss dvd player which i am not so familliar it has an option of rgb and its resolution for progressive scan and it has vga out put resolution changes too,whats better?

For your kiss DVD player, experiment first by connecting it to a computer monitor.  If it works, I have a feeling the resolution would only be 720x480 (standard DVD resolution) that would be 480p... if you have an HDTV that has a VGA input plug... plug it!  progressive na rin yan.. its the same as using component cables and using progressive scan.

Kagandahan sa HTPC you can customize your resolution to the capabilities of your VGA card and TV :)
all progressive scan TV's can do 480p, if your TV supports 1080i you can do 540p and 1080i.  If your TV can do 720p then you're in the money! thats the best resolution you can achieve.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:41 PM
WOW MASTER,its a good feedback.....tnx very specific and clear,even a newbie like me would understand :P ,what video card would you suggest?mines LOKBU hehehe compared to your radeon prolly ul say radeon too :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:41 PM
some pics of my widescreen, connecting to my PC via s-video cable.

http://www.pbase.com/bardigones/widescreen

Wow sarap mag widescreen!!! sayang walang VGA input yung widescreen TV mo :) di ba mahirap i configure yung TV paga japanese yung menu?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:44 PM
WOW MASTER,its a good feedback.....tnx very specific and clear,even a newbie like me would understand :P ,what video card would you suggest?mines LOKBU hehehe compared to your radeon prolly ul say radeon too :)

Actually kahit anong Radeon, ok for DVD :D hehe tama ka I'd say radeon.  But of course the graphics card question would be more of what you need it for.  If you are more concerned with gaming performance, you can save on cash and go with Nvidia, ok din ang DVD playback niya and you can go 540p (di nga lang 1080i) if you want gaming performance on a radeon medyo mahal na! heheh thats why I got a 9600 pro... hehe ouch!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:49 PM
widescreen ko naka vga hehehe Holrayt!!! yup naka nvidia lang ako na ti4200 ,actually concerned on encoding decoding videos and playback of course,game not really
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:50 PM
widescreen ko naka vga hehehe Holrayt!!! yup naka nvidia lang ako na ti4200 ,actually concerned on encoding decoding videos and playback of course,game not really

Ok narin yan! I used to have a Ti4200.. I did a good resolution of 960x540p
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:55 PM
ngayon yung kiss pinagiipunan ko pa ang 9800 pro :P
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:58 PM
someone selling it for 25500 brand new 2 yrs warranty ok ba yun?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:58 PM
widescreen ko naka vga hehehe Holrayt!!! yup naka nvidia lang ako na ti4200 ,actually concerned on encoding decoding videos and playback of course,game not really

RADEON ka na talaga pare!!!! give in to the Darkside! heheh

nvidia - ati --> ATI
nokia - ericsson --> Ericsson
PC - Mac --> Mac (pero naka PC ako heheh)

---------------------------------
Ooooh aray ko ang mahal pala ng 9800 pro!!! hehe... hanap ka nalang ng 9700 pro maka mura ka pa.. and its faster pa. it should range around 13k - 15k it slowly disappearing they already stopped production na kasi to make way for the 9800 pro.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 11, 2003 at 05:00 PM
RADEON ka na talaga pare!!!! give in to the Darkside! heheh

nvidia - ati --> ATI
nokia - ericsson --> Ericsson <--- panu yan naka samsung ako hehehe
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 12, 2003 at 06:53 AM
kapaan lang sa jap menus pare. actually, pag sony kung sa calibration medyo madali kasi it follows the color coding of brightness, color, picture, etc.

looking to upgrade din ako to a radeon - kahit 9100 lang muna.... im currently using gf4mx440 - 8x, pwede na...
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:23 AM
onga chong balita ko nga na mas maganda 9700 bakit kaya?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 12, 2003 at 03:11 PM
onga chong balita ko nga na mas maganda 9700 bakit kaya?

I was just checking out reviews a while ago, benchmarks shows that the 9800 pro is faster than the 9700 pro FYI lang
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 13, 2003 at 05:24 AM
chong sorry dami ko na ata pm hehehe paano ba gamitin yung ffdshow d ko magets hahaha tsaka how do you change the resolutions to make it simple lets start from using my monitor lang muna
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:07 AM
chong sorry dami ko na ata pm hehehe paano ba gamitin yung ffdshow d ko magets hahaha tsaka how do you change the resolutions to make it simple lets start from using my monitor lang muna

Hi Chronic, I wrote a guide before on how to setup HD Resolutions on your PC.  Its on page 2 of this thread.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=17;action=display;threadid=13274;start=20

Later na yung FFDshow pagnakaka output ka na sa TV mo in HD resolutions.  Pang DVD resolution na yung FFDshow. :)
Title: LCD project finished
Post by: jpadua on Aug 14, 2003 at 08:57 AM
Just wanted to update my htpc case adventures :) finally got my DIY LCD on my case.  Here are some pics.

(http://207.150.221.97/m2systec/images/lcdhtpc2.jpg)
Painted the LCD Area silver, top coated with clear matt laquer for a flatter finish

(http://207.150.221.97/m2systec/images/lcdhtpc3.jpg)
A closer view of the LCD - cut the rectangular hole with a my Talon rotary tool and used a flat file for finishing.

(http://207.150.221.97/m2systec/images/lcdhtpc4.jpg)
finally made a case badge :) printed on HP photo paper for a better effect.

By the way I will be putting up a website soon, all about HTPCs Setup, Modding, My DIY Projects, maybe links to HTPC resources I find useful.

I have a temporary URL up
http://207.150.221.97/m2systec

I will update as soon as the real Domain goes online
http://www.m2systech.com

Cheers!

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 14, 2003 at 12:53 PM
@jpadua,

besides the interlaced option, ano pa ba advantages ng radeons over the nvidia cards?

im using Palit Daytona GF4MX440 - 8x 64mb

im planning to use  a radeon din e, and i have no experience with radeons...

im interested in:
1. Radeon VE 7000 - Php2,000.00 est.
2. 9100 Sapphire - Php3,500.00 est.
3. 9200 HIS Radeon - 8x -- Php4,500.00 est.

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 14, 2003 at 01:12 PM
@jpadua,

besides the interlaced option, ano pa ba advantages ng radeons over the nvidia cards?

im using Palit Daytona GF4MX440 - 8x 64mb

im planning to use  a radeon din e, and i have no experience with radeons...

im interested in:
1. Radeon VE 7000 - Php2,000.00 est.
2. 9100 Sapphire - Php3,500.00 est.
3. 9200 HIS Radeon - 8x -- Php4,500.00 est.



Kahit anong radeon ok naman, even the 7000 for DVD playback.  Some htpc's actually use the Radeon7000.  Cguro, get the 9200 at least it will perform better than your current card.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 14, 2003 at 02:19 PM

im interested in:
1. Radeon VE 7000 - Php2,000.00 est.
2. 9100 Sapphire - Php3,500.00 est.
3. 9200 HIS Radeon - 8x -- Php4,500.00 est.



san meron nito? may vid out ba to? s video ba or rca?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ots on Aug 14, 2003 at 05:47 PM
Quote
im interested in:
1. Radeon VE 7000 - Php2,000.00 est.
2. 9100 Sapphire - Php3,500.00 est.
3. 9200 HIS Radeon - 8x -- Php4,500.00 est.
Confusing (intentionally, I think) talaga ang naming ng ATI cards.  If I understand it right 9200 to 9800 series share the same core.
97xx and 98xx are virtually the same card; 98xx is just the latest and greatest.  The others in the 9xxx line are just crippled (some features are turned off) and downclocked versions.

The 9100 series I think is the  8500 under a new name (that's why this card is not 8x agp).  Note however, this card is not crippled (all features working) or downclocked.

I would choose the 9100 over the 9200.  In fact, the 9100 has a higher pricetag than the 9200.  I haven't seen a vendor carrying a 9200 selling a 9100 also (too confusing: bakit masmahal ang 9100 sa 9200?)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aRujoN on Aug 15, 2003 at 04:55 AM
Bardigones,
     
        What store is the 9100 Sapphire available at?
Title: Re:LCD project finished
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 15, 2003 at 09:54 AM
Just wanted to update my htpc case adventures :) finally got my DIY LCD on my case.  Here are some pics.

(http://207.150.221.97/m2systec/images/lcdhtpc2.jpg)
Painted the LCD Area silver, top coated with clear matt laquer for a flatter finish

(http://207.150.221.97/m2systec/images/lcdhtpc3.jpg)
A closer view of the LCD - cut the rectangular hole with a my Talon rotary tool and used a flat file for finishing.

(http://207.150.221.97/m2systec/images/lcdhtpc4.jpg)
finally made a case badge :) printed on HP photo paper for a better effect.

By the way I will be putting up a website soon, all about HTPCs Setup, Modding, My DIY Projects, maybe links to HTPC resources I find useful.

I have a temporary URL up
http://207.150.221.97/m2systec

I will update as soon as the real Domain goes online
http://www.m2systech.com

Cheers!



ayus to ah!!! LORD OF THE MODS KA TALGA
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 15, 2003 at 03:43 PM
1. sapphire 9100 - P3500.00 in PCOptions Gilmore or try tipidpc's waycoolph - ok siya sa radeon!

2. HIS radeon 9200 (8x agp) - PC Express www.pcx.com.ph - Php4500?

3. Radeon 9500 - Php5,950.00 PC Express

4. Radeon 7000 VE - around 2,200 sa pc options / pcx?

all have s-video out, and accdg to jpadua (the HTPC master) can do interlaced options...

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aRujoN on Aug 16, 2003 at 02:21 AM
1. sapphire 9100 - P3500.00 in PCOptions Gilmore or try tipidpc's waycoolph - ok siya sa radeon!

2. HIS radeon 9200 (8x agp) - PC Express www.pcx.com.ph - Php4500?

3. Radeon 9500 - Php5,950.00 PC Express

4. Radeon 7000 VE - around 2,200 sa pc options / pcx?

all have s-video out, and accdg to jpadua (the HTPC master) can do interlaced options...



Thanks for the info. :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ots on Aug 16, 2003 at 09:51 AM
this are the prices i got:
1. Sapphire 9100 64mb P9,800 at rsuncomputers.com but this item is no longer listed at their website.  I failed to notice this item at pcoptions (hindi na kasi namimigay ng pricelist)

2. HIS 9200 64mb P3,400 at any PCExpress

Looks like 9100s are disappearing.  So it's 9200 or 7000VE for those of us on a budget.

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Aug 16, 2003 at 11:26 AM
here's my rig:

AMD thundebird 1ghz (overclocked at 1.3MGhz)
ASUS A7v 133
1gig PC133
SB LIVE!
GEFORCE 4 440MX 128DDR
LITEON 16X48X  DVD
LITEON 48X24X48X
CREATIVE 52X IR
120 GIG SEAGATE BARRACUDA
2 1.44 FDD
AOC 17inch KVLR
HP895C
ACER SLIM SCANNER
Creative Cambridge Digital 5.1
Altec Lansing 45.1
Intel web Cam
CASIO EXILIM 2.0 MEGAPIXEL DIGICAM
Looking forward to AMD 3GHz processor+compatible setup.
Plus Dell CPx650 laptop courtesy of Analog Devices .

Operating System:
Multiple boot:
1. Win ME
2. Windows 2000 Advance Server
3. WinXP
4. Redhat Linux 6.0
5. Linux Mandrake


Now im itching to "real" HT. Hay naku buhay, walang katapusan sa new technology.

sigma ilang watts ang power supply mo at saka anong heatsink at fan ang gamit mo sa overclock cpu mo.

thanks
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:15 AM
Wow... sabi ko na nga ba your leading to that road of wealth generation  ;D

Jay, I think you are also better off looking at their slimline series... baka mas okay, we also need to come up with a Linux type implementation so that when you turn it on direct dvd boot agad similar to Xbox boot-up.  :o
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:23 AM
Wow... sabi ko na nga ba your leading to that road of wealth generation  ;D

Jay, I think you are also better off looking at their slimline series... baka mas okay, we also need to come up with a Linux type implementation so that when you turn it on direct dvd boot agad similar to Xbox boot-up.  :o

yeah been readin up on that too :) although we may want to start with a windows based system so that its price would be justified as not just a DVD player but a multi function appliance. More software and much more user friendly to average users than Linux.  It's still a PC but specifically built up for your HT system.  Maybe after this.. will get into that as well. Linux HD-DVD system.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: FaFa_RoLaNd on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:06 PM
oooohhhh niiicceeee!!!! jpadua kindly inform me kung magpaparaing ka ng ganyang case!!! im interested!!! WWOOOOOWWW!!!! gusto ko nyan!!!!!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 19, 2003 at 06:47 AM
jay try mo directdvd 5.0 es edition kung ok din thats what i have now,and as for my tv problems i got a 51 incher na :P ill hook it up later tapos try the htpc kaso walang vga in could u help me out thanxs
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 19, 2003 at 08:17 AM
oooohhhh niiicceeee!!!! jpadua kindly inform me kung magpaparaing ka ng ganyang case!!! im interested!!! WWOOOOOWWW!!!! gusto ko nyan!!!!!
Fafa_Roland, cge I'll let you know once we start getting the shipments :D so far under negotiations pa kami with the manufacturer

jay try mo directdvd 5.0 es edition kung ok din thats what i have now,and as for my tv problems i got a 51 incher na :P ill hook it up later tapos try the htpc kaso walang vga in could u help me out thanxs

Yeah I've heard about directdvd 5.0 although di pa ako nakakakita nun.  Kung wala kang VGA in sa 51 mo, use s-video nalang thats your best option.  If you are using an Nvidia card I suggest using a 3rd party software called TVtool you can get it sa www.tvtool.de unfortunately its not freeware you have to pay $10 for the registration key. If your main connection talaga is s-video w/ nvidia cards... TVtool is the best! the s-video implementation of the detonator drivers are so bad compared to the clarity of the video from TVtool. TVtool even has 2 layers of flicker adjustment, and has sharpening, and contrast tools and it also allows native DVD resolution of 720x480 unlike the standard 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 resolutions of the standard driver. (by the way this is not compatible with powerstrip so if you use powerstrip turn it off before using TVtool)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 19, 2003 at 10:45 AM
i cud send u a copy wit a crack bro malakas k sakin e
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 19, 2003 at 10:57 AM
i cud send u a copy wit a crack bro malakas k sakin e
hehehe  ;)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 19, 2003 at 01:46 PM
if i ahve tvtool na what do i do next?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 19, 2003 at 01:52 PM
if i ahve tvtool na what do i do next?

make sure na naka disable yung twinview clone mode on the nvidia advanced tab. Enable TV tool, select s-video.  Then do all you tweaking... explore what you can do with TV tool to get the best picture
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 20, 2003 at 12:26 PM
i have tvtool 7.2.5 but it doesnt support my GF4MX440-8x (w/ s-video)

madaming options doon na grayed out. help naman.

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 20, 2003 at 01:26 PM
i have tvtool 7.2.5 but it doesnt support my GF4MX440-8x (w/ s-video)

madaming options doon na grayed out. help naman.

The version you have is old. I think TV tool already came out with version 8. The older versions didnt support the MX440 not until version 8.  Go to www.tvtool.com  If you are really plan to be using tvtool (its worth it) I suggest you get yourself a registered copy.  Its only $10. :) you can download version 8 evalutaion copy to test and really see if its worth your money, which I'm sure it is.  The evaluation copy runs with full features except for a time limit of 15min

here are the new features in version TVtool V.8
Support for MV TV encoder (internal TV chip on GF4-MX and GF-FX)
Extensive nView configuration tab
Support for GF-FX
Support for GF4-MX 420,440 and 460
Support for GF4Go, GF-FX Go
Overlay problems fixed for GF2Go
Overlay Colors adjustable
Special resolutions 768x576 and 720x480 added for Philips SAA7104 and
Philips SAA7108A.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 21, 2003 at 01:09 PM
ok jay, for $10, is it okay if i keep my GF4mx440-8x and buy tvtool8?

or will i just sell my gf4 and get a radeon 9100?

also, id like to ask for tweaking tips on how to improve my viewing experience.

28" Widescreen sony (1024x768 res)
Connected to my PC via s-video
i use latest detonator on GF4mx440-8x,64ddr
nforce2 mcpt
creative 5.1 5300inspire

although i get a decent viewing experience, is till like to tweak it more. maybe try other types of connections or other software?


i want to try a different resolution e.  720x480?

should i get a radeon-powerstrip?
nvidia-tvtool?

my tv is currently at 1024x768 and i just set the software's (WinDVD Platinum 5) Aspect Ratio to the OFF setting, so i can fill in the whole screen (pero the image is a little taller, onti lang naman and i can get away with it hehehe)

pero siyempre i still want an excellent resolution.

any other connection i should try other than the s-video? you can see the TV's connectors here: http://www.pbase.com/bardigones/widescreen

thanks.

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 21, 2003 at 01:19 PM
ok jay, for $10, is it okay if i keep my GF4mx440-8x and buy tvtool8?

or will i just sell my gf4 and get a radeon 9100?

also, id like to ask for tweaking tips on how to improve my viewing experience.

28" Widescreen sony (1024x768 res)
Connected to my PC via s-video
i use latest detonator on GF4mx440-8x,64ddr
nforce2 mcpt
creative 5.1 5300inspire

although i get a decent viewing experience, is till like to tweak it more. maybe try other types of connections or other software?


i want to try a different resolution e.  720x480?

should i get a radeon-powerstrip?
nvidia-tvtool?

my tv is currently at 1024x768 and i just set the software's (WinDVD Platinum 5) Aspect Ratio to the OFF setting, so i can fill in the whole screen (pero the image is a little taller, onti lang naman and i can get away with it hehehe)

pero siyempre i still want an excellent resolution.

any other connection i should try other than the s-video? you can see the TV's connectors here: http://www.pbase.com/bardigones/widescreen

thanks.



Actually with your connecitons since you dont have VGA input, its not nessesary to use powerstirp because you will only be using s-video. If you decide to stick with your Geforce Card, then TV tool is the best solution you can get.  With TV tool you can even go 720x480 native DVD resolution which is the best you can get with s-video through a video card.  you only  spend $10

Your other option is to go with a radeon.. but I dont think you would see much difference with s-video.  so I suggest just keeping your card first, purchase TV tool.  Once you have a TV with a VGA input then switch over to a Radeon then use powerstrip, Theatertek and FFdshow for the best DVD viewing experience
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 21, 2003 at 01:45 PM
ok pare. thanks a lot. that was a quick response.

baka lang pwede pa ma-tweak. hehehe. lam mo naman tayo, laging di mapakali, even though i already got some decent picture quality. will give tvtool a try...

thanks - you da man!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Aug 25, 2003 at 08:36 PM
Hi guys i ordered Gyration Mouse and keyboard from the US
http://www.gyration.com/default.asp

Grabeh its the best ever keyboard and mouse i've ever had.. trully the best for HTPC's

imagine i just point the mouse in my Projection Screen and the cursor moves there.. Its RF also.
it has dual purpose because u can also use it in table using the optical lens or lift it up and point ..

I use to have the Acer Airkey 3 then the Logitech Freedom Navigator but trust me this is worth it kaya order narin kayo hehe

HTPC RULES!!!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Aug 25, 2003 at 08:41 PM
Ey JPADUA u stil use the TheaterTek? i have the full version of PowerDVD4 with DTS, PrologicII and more.. u can download it FREE..

i cant wait to get the full version of Powerdvd5

anyways try to use YXY software its great so u can manipulate the screen size and screen location of ur dvd softwares...
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Aug 25, 2003 at 09:24 PM
:: HTPC SETUP ::

Athlon XP2000
Asus A7V8X-X
512MB
80GB Seagate
Audigy 2 THX
PixelView TV card
LG DVD /CDRW 32/10/40
ATI RADEON VE > soon to be 9200
Gyration RF Mouse and Keyboard 4 HTPC

:: Speakers ::

Mission M72i > Fronts
Mission M7ds> Rear
MIssion Mc1i>  Center

:: Amplifier ::

Rotel RB985 THX Certified 5Channel

:: Wires ::

Puresonic

:: Softwares ::

Theatertek
PowerDVD4
WinDVD Platinum
YXY
Powerstip
Region Killer

:: LCD PROJECTOR ::
TPZ Videoball Toshiba

:: Screen ::
Da Lite

:: Remote ::
RCA Universal Remote LCD Touch Screen
Invoca Voice Activated Universal Remote





Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 26, 2003 at 12:07 AM
Here's my partial setup (kabubuo ko lang)

Pentium4 2.4C 800Mhz FSB
ASUS P4P800 Deluxe Motherboard w/ SPDIF-out
2 x 256 PC3200 DDR in Dual DDR400 config
80GB Seagate Serial-ATA
256MB Powercolor Radeon 9200-powered by ATI
Logitech Navigator Trio (Cordless KB & optical mouse and webcam)
17" MAGView Flat CRT Monitor
Liteon 52x52x32 CD writer

**no Soundblaster Audigy yet, will try first the sound output from the built-in 6-channel audio of the motherboard.

'will post pics soon.

JayPadua, pwede bang magpatulong kung paano i-setup itong video card ko para i-output sa pixel plus tv (like yours) via VGA cable.  Also, what good softwares to use for HTPC...thanks in advance.

Shalom :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 26, 2003 at 08:10 AM
Ey JPADUA u stil use the TheaterTek? i have the full version of PowerDVD4 with DTS, PrologicII and more.. u can download it FREE..

i cant wait to get the full version of Powerdvd5

anyways try to use YXY software its great so u can manipulate the screen size and screen location of ur dvd softwares...

Hey BNG long time no see, here at PDVD :) musta na... yeah I still use theatretek, removed all my other soft DVD players.  Ok ba talaga ang PowerDVD 4? I like theatretek cause it takes the whole screen, sort of like a real DVD player. Cge PM kita :)

Here's my partial setup (kabubuo ko lang)

Pentium4 2.4C 800Mhz FSB
ASUS P4P800 Deluxe Motherboard w/ SPDIF-out
2 x 256 PC3200 DDR in Dual DDR400 config
80GB Seagate Serial-ATA
256MB Powercolor Radeon 9200-powered by ATI
Logitech Navigator Trio (Cordless KB & optical mouse and webcam)
17" MAGView Flat CRT Monitor
Liteon 52x52x32 CD writer

**no Soundblaster Audigy yet, will try first the sound output from the built-in 6-channel audio of the motherboard.

'will post pics soon.

JayPadua, pwede bang magpatulong kung paano i-setup itong video card ko para i-output sa pixel plus tv (like yours) via VGA cable.  Also, what good softwares to use for HTPC...thanks in advance.

Shalom :)


Hi Yrneh Cool Setup by the way! you probably wont need a sound card since may spdif na yung board mo.  Direct digital signals na yun so it doesnt matter kung galing sa audigy or your mobo yung signal... its the same signal.

Checkout how to setup your TV for HD resolution post ko a while back to setup powerstrip.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=17;action=display;threadid=13274;start=20  

Softwares to use.
Theatertek + FFD show... great combination
Powerstrip of course (essential) connecting through the VGA port of your Pixel plus
Girder for remote control automaiton if you have an IR port
Region Free or Region Killer

Oh and dont forget you need a Male to Male VGA cable.. a bit hard to come by.. but I saw a couple of them being sold in SOS for 500 ;)
Title: A Cool HTPC Motherboard
Post by: jpadua on Aug 26, 2003 at 08:19 AM
Hey has anyone heard of the Chaintech  7NIF2? I was surfing the web for a mobo for a low profile case, and I found this.  It's Micro ATX SFF, It uses NForce2, has USB2.0, 10/100 Lan controler, IR header,  S-video out and S/pdif out.  The great thing about it is that, you just slap on a Processor and Memory and you will be up an running already.  

I was also looking at the new ATI IGP boards (the ATI counter part of NForce) Looks cool but so far only the P4 boards, have the s-video and spdif outputs, and uses the 9200 core for the graphics, the AMD boards that use the ATI IGP only uses the 7000 core.  Well lets wait and see, I'm sure may lalabas din na 9200 core for AMD Proc. that would have both s-video and s/dif outputs

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: johndoe on Aug 26, 2003 at 10:32 AM
how about its price? 8)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 26, 2003 at 10:42 AM
how about its price? 8)

Yun nga eh, naghahanap ako kung meron na dito.. have to go to greenhills soon :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Aug 26, 2003 at 02:21 PM
Hey BNG long time no see, here at PDVD :) musta na... yeah I still use theatretek, removed all my other soft DVD players.  Ok ba talaga ang PowerDVD 4? I like theatretek cause it takes the whole screen, sort of like a real DVD player.

I kinda like PowerDVD4 when it comes to sounds kasi im not using spdif
u can also take the whole screen with it if u use YXY http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/htpc/yxy/yxy.html

try it, its great
:)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 26, 2003 at 02:38 PM
I kinda like PowerDVD4 when it comes to sounds kasi im not using spdif
u can also take the whole screen with it if u use YXY http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/htpc/yxy/yxy.html

try it, its great
:)

I remember downloading YXY before.. couldnt get the hang of it lang heheheh...  but I know its a cool program
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Aug 29, 2003 at 03:30 PM
jay,

baka di mo magustuhan yung onboard graphics nung nforce2. i think u would still use your radeon para doon, anyway meron naman siyang agp port.

i bought an nforce2 (8rda+) coz of its MCPT onboard sound. okay naman siya, pero im looking for the crunch and clarity nung mga creative cards. im also using a gf4mx440-8x.

im quite satisfied right now naman.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 29, 2003 at 03:40 PM
bardigones, actually if I'm just goin to use as a standalone HTPC, not for gaming, I guess ok na yan, as long as I can use powerstrip.  The MX400 has a Mpeg2 harware decoder so I'm sure it will have no problem displaying DVDs.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: moonshow on Aug 29, 2003 at 10:10 PM
heres my pc specs

athlon xp 1.7
256 ddr
radeon ve
sb live
samsung dvd 16x
sony cdrw drive
15 inch mag monitor

win xp
power dvd xp

im planning to buy a used 21" monitor from eqmi, is it advisable to purchase 2nd hand monitors?the performance/dvd playback in my pc is ok. but the screen is too small and also the budget for a bigger one. has anyone tried the diy projector?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Aug 30, 2003 at 01:22 PM
heres my pc specs

athlon xp 1.7
256 ddr
radeon ve
sb live
samsung dvd 16x
sony cdrw drive
15 inch mag monitor

win xp
power dvd xp

im planning to buy a used 21" monitor from eqmi, is it advisable to purchase 2nd hand monitors?the performance/dvd playback in my pc is ok. but the screen is too small and also the budget for a bigger one. has anyone tried the diy projector?


Hi.. why buy a monitor if u can hook up your ATI VE in your TV?

You can connect the svideo out to ur tv then the 15 inch monitor sa vga out mo

so u can switch from monitor to tv anytime.. but if u want to get 21inch because of gaming then its ok but the video card u are using is not good for gaming..

But its gud 4 DVD playbacks because Radeon VE supports hardware accelerated motion compensation  IDCT

If u want to buy 2nd hand monitor its also ok naman if u don't want to spend for a new one especially with 21" because that would be very expensive if its brandnew, just make sure the store gives u 3months warranty


:)

Regarding DIY projector.. i wouldnt suggest it if u will be really using it for your home theater.. unless u like to build diy projects for fun then go ahead.

the problem kasi with the DIY projector is the following:
1. space- most diy projector is big
2. parts- its hard to find the right parts in the Philippines
3. time- it takes time to build it.
4. Keystone- it would be hard to position the projector in the wall bec it has to face directly to the wall with the right height and lenght.

if u want to have a decent projector for less than 20,000
just look for 2nd hand projectors like  sony cpj100.
if u want to get an old model but new ranging from 30,000 to 45,000 go to harizon plaza sa image audio / video store
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Aug 30, 2003 at 01:35 PM
Ey JP have u seen http://www.mini-itx.com/
u like to build DIY projects hehe u should really try the mini-itx.. how i wish they have this here in the Philippines.

there's this guy there who made an HTPC for his car
check it out:)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Aug 30, 2003 at 01:42 PM
bardigones, actually if I'm just goin to use as a standalone HTPC, not for gaming, I guess ok na yan, as long as I can use powerstrip.  The MX400 has a Mpeg2 harware decoder so I'm sure it will have no problem displaying DVDs.

What processor are u planning to use for this? kasi kung wala sya IDCT it will depend on ur processor
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 01, 2003 at 08:09 AM
What processor are u planning to use for this? kasi kung wala sya IDCT it will depend on ur processor

Hi BNG, actually plano ko was to use an Athlon 2400 or 2600... pero its all plans lang.. I'm really waiting for the ATI 9200 IGP to come out with an Athlon Version.  Panay P4 palang nakita kong Mini ATX na Ati9200 IGP.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bardigones on Sep 01, 2003 at 08:35 AM
di ako sure pero i havent heard of any rumors na ATI will have an AMD-based chipset (yung bago ha).

and jay, alam ko pwede mo alisin yung bracket ng video card mo so it will fit in an HTPC case. yung sa palit daytona mx440 ko, they even supplied a smaller bracket, that have holes for svideo vga and rca.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Sep 01, 2003 at 09:56 AM
and jay, alam ko pwede mo alisin yung bracket ng video card mo so it will fit in an HTPC case. yung sa palit daytona mx440 ko, they even supplied a smaller bracket, that have holes for svideo vga and rca.
yung 128mb model ng video card ko has that low-profile option:

http://www.power-color.com/r92le-c3.htm

JayPadua, thanks for the tips and i already got powerstrip 3.45.  meron bang site na pwedeng  i-download ang theatertek?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 01, 2003 at 10:17 AM
yung 128mb model ng video card ko has that low-profile option:

http://www.power-color.com/r92le-c3.htm

JayPadua, thanks for the tips and i already got powerstrip 3.45.  meron bang site na pwedeng  i-download ang theatertek?


yeah low profile na 9200se, ganda nga yun... yung sa theatertek.. wala akong alam na download except sa www.theatertek.com you have to purchase online though.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 02, 2003 at 08:14 AM
Hi! YrNeH, kamusta na yung pixel plus mo? I was fiddling around with powerstrip and my pixel plus, and I must say.. I was even able to get a much better picture!

how does 1920x1080i sound???  ;D

While fiddling around with powerstrip advanced configuration, I set my resolution to 1920x1080i... yup it filled the screen since the pixelplus is 4:3 and not 16:9 (pictures looked streched vertically)...I was just clicking down the total lines under the vertical geometry just trying to find the limit when my TV will black out (or shall I say blue out heheh), the TV clicked.. and suddenly my desktop was in widescreen (black bars top and bottom)! I dont need to press vertical squeeze on the TV anymore to reveal the ugly white line sa taas.  There was a little overscan so I just adjusted the horizontal front and back porches and  horizontal scanrate (khz).  

Now I've got full screen with no overscan, no need for vertical squeeze on the TV and get full pixels of 1920x1080i.  Suhweeeet!  It still seems a bit vertically streched but just by very little... a little adjustment lang sa theatertek aspect ratio using the THX calibration disc and I was done!

I thought I reached the limit when I got 1620x1080... but I'm so much happier with 1920x1080i... by the way I did the same technique in getting 920x540p in widescreen.  So I can switch to progressive scan with a hotkey.

Suhweeet!!!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Sep 15, 2003 at 04:45 PM
TIGHT!!! ;D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 23, 2003 at 09:08 AM
To all HTPC enthusiasts, there is a new HTPC site on the web. News,  downloads, software and hardware reviews specifically focused on HTPC use. Check it out here.
http://www.htpcnews.com

BTW I designed the site layout. :)

You can help us too! if you find any news, reviews, or anything related to Home Theater PCs, please send a URL to [email protected]!

Jackryan, thanks for that bit about the motion compensation for PCs, I had them put up a link :)

help us grow this great resource!
Thanks!

Cheers!

Jay  
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: stradale on Sep 24, 2003 at 03:25 PM
Need your advise guys.  Want to add another 256MB of DDR to my home PC. Currently have a 256 MB, 333MHz Kingmax installed. Now I've been advised to look for the same brand of memory kasi daw if I install another brand like say Kingston or Apacer, I'll get errors. Is this true kaya? Wala na kasi akong makitang Kingmax 333 sa mga PC stores.

BTW, I'm using an MSI P4 board with the Sis 645 chipset.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Sep 26, 2003 at 08:46 PM
Here's is what my new setup going to be

(http://us.shuttle.com/images/productimages/sn45g.jpg)

It's a shuttle SN45G Nforce 2 SFF , soundstorm certified MB,  setup will be 2400XP cpu  , 512 MB Ram , 160 GB Maxtor 8mb cache 7200 Hard Disk  , video card either an ATI  AIW 8500DV or 9700 NP ....

Just got the barebones last night hopefully I can setup during the weekend
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Sep 26, 2003 at 09:11 PM
Nice setup jambam, sa pinas mo ba nabili iyan pede malaman ang price at kung saan?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Sep 26, 2003 at 09:29 PM
qman, got it thru elektroniksdepot , here is the thread...

http://www.elektroniksdepot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30


I can recomend them ok is bong....
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Sep 26, 2003 at 09:44 PM
thanks jambam sa link
pag natapos mo iset up papost na lang ng iyong komento. :D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Sep 26, 2003 at 10:16 PM
actually this is my 3rd nforce 2 setup , i am just changing the form factor to a smaller one , one of my other setups is a lian li pc9300 desktop case also w/ nf2 . it should perform similarly...

(http://scasp.webnow.biz/upload/a0000010/en_US/prd_778.jpg)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Sep 27, 2003 at 06:29 PM
jambam tanong uli,

bakit mo pinalitan mo ng Shuttle ang ibang HTPC mo?  at saka maraming model ang shuttle bakit itong SN45G?

tenks
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Sep 27, 2003 at 09:45 PM
The Lian Li 9300 is very nice but , i just don't have the proper space for it . too long to fit on top of my RPTV and also on the table of my projector... It's Ideal if you have the right space for it w/c I don't have. I am thinking of selling it but it's a one of a kind case, and I put a lot of effort it getting it too..

Match sana siya sa Philips na Pixel Plus stand , kaso di ko tinuloy pagbili ng pixel + kasi naayos na ang toshiba RPTV ko.

I like AMD , since it's value for money that's why I choose the SN45G... also  the soundstorm is so convinent for me. The SN61B ( Intel 865 PE) is also available but it would cost me at  least a P25K  adder, as this one is more expensive + 10K for the cpu + 7K for 400 fsb ddr ram,  for that money I can get another SN45G w/c I might.

Also first choice ko talaga ito, it was the SN42G2 pa nga , but just could not get it from the local dealer, ayaw nila ipasok, this one looks better but a bit more expensive and also the built in  video at higher resolutions is not very good.

Late ko na discover ang elektroniks depot.

Finish na setup ko ng SN45G , Tahimik siya ,magaan , and can  fit in the places I would like to put it. sa top ng RPTV  at table ng projector.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 29, 2003 at 09:34 AM
The Lian Li 9300 is very nice but , i just don't have the proper space for it . too long to fit on top of my RPTV and also on the table of my projector... It's Ideal if you have the right space for it w/c I don't have. I am thinking of selling it but it's a one of a kind case, and I put a lot of effort it getting it too..

Match sana siya sa Philips na Pixel Plus stand , kaso di ko tinuloy pagbili ng pixel + kasi naayos na ang toshiba RPTV ko.

I like AMD , since it's value for money that's why I choose the SN45G... also  the soundstorm is so convinent for me. The SN61B ( Intel 865 PE) is also available but it would cost me at  least a P25K  adder, as this one is more expensive + 10K for the cpu + 7K for 400 fsb ddr ram,  for that money I can get another SN45G w/c I might.

Also first choice ko talaga ito, it was the SN42G2 pa nga , but just could not get it from the local dealer, ayaw nila ipasok, this one looks better but a bit more expensive and also the built in  video at higher resolutions is not very good.

Late ko na discover ang elektroniks depot.

Finish na setup ko ng SN45G , Tahimik siya ,magaan , and can  fit in the places I would like to put it. sa top ng RPTV  at table ng projector.

ayos ah.. how much would you sell it, I'm quite interested... need to setup another HTPC
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Sep 29, 2003 at 10:32 AM
Jpadua, pare nadisplace siya ng Xbox ng anak ko kaya wala ng mapaglagyan.

I can only sell it at the price I got it, and it has to go w/ the motherboard I bought for it  w/c is a redfox/Biostar M7NCG , NF2 din. The rest of the parts I put in the SN45G

You can text or call  09178422429
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 29, 2003 at 10:35 AM
Jpadua, pare nadisplace siya ng Xbox ng anak ko kaya wala ng mapaglagyan.

I can only sell it at the price I got it, and it has to go w/ the motherboard I bought for it  w/c is a redfox/Biostar M7NCG , NF2 din. The rest of the parts I put in the SN45G

You can text or call  09178422429

PM mo sakin ulit yung price I forgot na eh
:)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Sep 29, 2003 at 03:05 PM
Quote
PM mo sakin ulit yung price I forgot na eh

ok may pm ka
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Oct 29, 2003 at 10:01 AM
Hey guys for HTPC Enthusiasts like ourselves, there is a new website specifically for us!

check out www.htpcnews.com (by the way I designed the site too)

Sign up narin kayo sa forums dun... maraming HTPC experts dun to give great advice.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aragorn on Nov 11, 2003 at 01:36 AM
Hey guys, I'm new here....

and here's what I have first .......

Pentium 200Mhz ( MMX )
ASUS TX-97e Socket 7 Mobo
64 MB SDRam
850MB HDD
4MB PCI Video Card
12Mb Voodoo 2 1000
USR 56K ISA modem
Creative DVD ROM
Creative SB16 ISA Sound Card
ATP3 Speaker ( 2.1 )
LG E700B ( 17" CRT Flat Monitor )

and.....the best of them all, my Creative DVD Decoder CARD.....inlay type ( connected inside to the Video Card, so u can watch at the same time on ur monitor and TV screen )

......video out ( RCA ) is incomparable to those video out that is integrated to the Video CARD....

I've already flashed the Creative DVD_ROM Drive so ......it's region free.....



if only u can hear and especially see the output....

tnx

 ;)


Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Nov 11, 2003 at 07:13 AM
Hey guys, I'm new here....

and here's what I have first .......

Pentium 166Mhz ( MMX )
32 MB Ram
1.6 Gigabyte HDD
4MB PCI Video Card
Creative DVD ROM
Yamaha YXG Sound Card
Creative Soundworks Speaker ( 2.1 )

and.....the best of them all, my Creative DVD Decoder CARD.....inlay type ( connected inside to the Video Card, so u can watch at the same time on ur monitor and TV screen )

......video out ( RCA ) is incomparable to those video out that is integrated to the Video CARD....

I've already flushed the Creative DVD_ROM Drive so ......it's region free.....

this is what I got ....and still I'm using it....I've just change my HDD to 3.2 GB......the rest is still in perfect condition.......


if only u can hear and especially see the output....

tnx

 ;)


Hi Aragorn !

Welcome to the board ! I think you meant "flashed" vs "flushed" ;-)

Cheers!

-jackryan 8)


Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dge29 on Dec 12, 2003 at 09:26 PM
here's mine;

Duron 1.2ghz  
Coolermaster HSF 5300rpm
Mainboard K7AMA2
2-Seagate 40GB HD
128MB DDR266 STAR RAM / 256MB DDR266 WINBOND
Sparkle GF4 MX420 64MB W/ TV-out
Leadtek Winfast TV2000XP Deluxe (TV/FM tuner w/remote)
Creative Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Soundcard
Motorola internal modem
Cyberdrive CD-RW 40X/16X/48X
Liteon DVD ROM 16X
Chaintec Rounded IDE Cables (Yellow)
Mod Casing (Acrylic sidepanel)
CCFL (Blue)
2-80mm exhaust fans
1-92mm side intake fan
21" IYAMA Monitor
TG optical mouse
Altech Lansing ATP3 & 251
Zoltrix Headset w/ boom mic
500W AVR John & David
Intel Webcam USB III
Lexmark Z25 Printer
OS (win98 / WinXP pro sp1)

I would like to know how can I connect my pc to my tv. I tried connecting it once using an rca cable since its the only input of my tv.  The problem is nothing comes out on the tv screen when i play dvd. help!!!!!  Im not a techy person.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Dec 13, 2003 at 05:27 AM
I would like to know how can I connect my pc to my tv. I tried connecting it once using an rca cable since its the only input of my tv.  The problem is nothing comes out on the tv screen when i play dvd. help!!!!!  Im not a techy person.
try this, shutdown pc or before booting, connect the rca cable to the video-out to the video-in of the tv then boot it up. see how it goes.

shalom :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 13, 2003 at 09:33 AM
I would like to know how can I connect my pc to my tv. I tried connecting it once using an rca cable since its the only input of my tv.  The problem is nothing comes out on the tv screen when i play dvd. help!!!!!  Im not a techy person.

Hi dge29,

You might have to access the advanced video settings.
Right click on your desktop and select properties, when the window comes up, click on the settings tab, then click the advanced button. You will find a new set of tabs, look for nview, or click on all the tabs till you find the page that shows a monitor.  From there you can select your monitor and an option to use the video out to your TV.  I'm guessing the TV output is not activated.
:) hope this helps
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dge29 on Dec 14, 2003 at 08:48 AM
Hi dge29,

You might have to access the advanced video settings.
Right click on your desktop and select properties, when the window comes up, click on the settings tab, then click the advanced button. You will find a new set of tabs, look for nview, or click on all the tabs till you find the page that shows a monitor.  From there you can select your monitor and an option to use the video out to your TV.  I'm guessing the TV output is not activated.
:) hope this helps


I tried it already.  it works, I could see the desktop and everything elsw on my tv. But nothing comes out when Im playing DVD movies and other videos.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Dec 16, 2003 at 08:07 AM
sir jpadua,

i am quite interested in building my very own htpc...can u give me some barebone specs on what i need to have...i would like to keep the price at the minimum as it will be on experiment...ty po
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:02 AM
sir jpadua,

i am quite interested in building my very own htpc...can u give me some barebone specs on what i need to have...i would like to keep the price at the minimum as it will be on experiment...ty po

Hi Agmjr,

There are so many brands out there, I guess it would be a matter of personal taste.  Best I can do is give you a general idea of what kind of hardware you'll need, you can just canvas for the best deals :)

Processor - P4 1.8 or Athlon XP 2000 (for good measure both games and DVD movies)
Memory - 256MB to 512MB DDR (of course the higher the better)

If you want to save some cash, I suggest getting a motherboard that has built in Audio/Lan/USB2.0

For athlons try looking for an Nforce 2 board. Mini-ATX is ok because its cheaper than standard sized motherboards, you wont need much PCI slots since most of the functions would be built into your mother board (audio, lan, usb2.0 etc.)

In general, I would suggest looking for a mini-ATX board that has built in 6-channel audio (if you plan to use powered computer speakers like, creative 6.1, Logitech 5.1, creative Megaworks 6.1) If you plan to connect your HTPC to a Home Theater amplifier, make sure that the motherboard has a spdif output or digital audio output.

For video, you have several choices which again depends on the use of your machine (eg games, or just DVD)

Again things to look for in a video card; If you plan to connect your HTPC to a standard TV make sure that your video card has an s-video output connector.  If you plan to connect it to an HDTV and do Hi Resolution DVD, then all you need is a male to male VGA cabe (a bit hard to find but I'm sure you can find that in HMR or S.O.S - these are surplus shops)

Personally I prefer ATI over Nvidia since ATI has been known to have the best DVD output, and has decent if not better than average 3D performance (depending on the video card model) All ATI Cards more or less share the same excellent DVD output across all their boards, price matters only in 3D performance.

Here are some Examples:

Ati Radeon 7000 - Cheapest but very good DVD output

ATI Radeon 9200 SE - Affordable,  great DVD performance, 3D performance is higher than that of a Geforce FX 5600

ATI Radeon 9600/9600 pro - a bit on the pricy side but really fast 3D performance

Nvidia Geforce FX series - Good too, especially if you are into gaming.  DVD is also good but I prefer ATI.  Does not have the capability to display 1080i only 540p (ATI can do 1080i)

DVD-Rom (I use lite-on, but check reviews)

you can also opt for a combo drive which is now relatively cheaper nowadays

The sony combo drive is only about 3,500 to 4000 now.
Sony DVD/CD-RW combo drive

Hard drive is also a matter of preference when it comes to size, but I do suggest getting a 7200 RPM drive, 5400 RPM are way too slow.  I have  2 Seagate Barraccuda 40GB drives.

To sumarize:
P4 1.8 or Athlon XP 2000 or higher
256-512mb DDR memory
Mini-ATX motherboard with built in 6-chan audio and Spdif output
ATI or Nvidia graphics card
DVD-rom drive or DVD/CD-RW combo drive
7200RPM Hard Disk Drive

I guess you can start canvasing for prices now ;D

Good Luck!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:09 AM
I tried it already.  it works, I could see the desktop and everything elsw on my tv. But nothing comes out when Im playing DVD movies and other videos.

hi dge29

hmm, I see... what are you using to play DVDs?  I had that problem before with my laptop also.  I found out that when I used Windows Media Player, it doesnt display on my TV, when I switched to a soft DVD player like PowerDVD or WinDVD it displays on the TV.  I upgraded my windows media player to windows media player 9 and it finally displayed on my TV.

Try using a soft DVD player like PowerDVD, WinDVD or try upgrading your windows media player to version 9.

Hope this helps.

JPadua
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: slowhand on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:45 AM
Am trying to update myself, though no plans yet. Sorry can't track the whole thread. Could I ask some questions...

Processor
------------
Doesn't Microsoft recommend a faster processor for WMP 9? Sabi nila - 2.53 GHz Intel or AMD Athlon XP 2200+ or higher processor for 720p and 3.0GHz or greater processor for 1080p?

Video Card
--------------
What can you say about ATI Radeon 9800 Pro series?
Does it have DVI? If not, which cards (w/DVI) would be good? And where to get DVI cables in Manila?

(I know that specs are avaiable online, but I'd like to know your experiences.)

Case
------
Were to get those cool horizontal, audio-component-looking cases?

Thanks!

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 16, 2003 at 11:20 AM
Am trying to update myself, though no plans yet. Sorry can't track the whole thread. Could I ask some questions...

Processor
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Doesn't Microsoft recommend a faster processor for WMP 9? Sabi nila - 2.53 GHz Intel or AMD Athlon XP 2200+ or higher processor for 720p and 3.0GHz or greater processor for 1080p?

Video Card
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What can you say about ATI Radeon 9800 Pro series?
Does it have DVI? If not, which cards (w/DVI) would be good? And where to get DVI cables in Manila?

Case
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Were to get those cool horizontal, audio-component-looking cases?

Thanks!

Processor
If you plan to use a soft DVD player like WinDVD, PowerDVD or Theatertek, p4 1.8 will do or an athlonXP 2000.  What microsoft was specifying is WMV9 HD video. You really need a power hungry processor.  WMV9 HD is encoded in HD hence the high processing power needed to process 1080p.  As of now, there are very very limited WMV9 titles, I have one.. Terminator 2 Extreme ed.  But useless for me cause, you cant use Dolby digital on your amp. You have to have powered speakers directly connected to your soundcard.

If you are only going to be watching DVD's upscaled to HD, minimum I would say would be and athlon xp 2000, depending on what upscale you plan to use.  I used to run it on a p3 1GHz and ran fine at 960x540. Now on my Athlon XP 2000, I watch DVD's at 1620x1080i on my HD TV. Sweet.

Video Card.

Any ATI card will do... even the Radeon 7000 has excellent DVD output.  The higher end models will only be your concern if you have 3D performance in mind.

Cases

As of now, nobody is importing these beautiful cases simply because of lack of demand for it in the market... :( only way is to buy it abroad, or build your own. (I made mine) heheh.


Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: slowhand on Dec 16, 2003 at 01:35 PM
Thanks jp. Mukhang matarik nga ang learning curve ano.

What do you mean by -- "you cant use Dolby digital on your amp. You have to have powered speakers directly connected to your soundcard." No digital out, analog out only?

How much to spend for a good HTPC?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 16, 2003 at 01:52 PM
Thanks jp. Mukhang matarik nga ang learning curve ano.

What do you mean by -- "you cant use Dolby digital on your amp. You have to have powered speakers directly connected to your soundcard." No digital out, analog out only?

How much to spend for a good HTPC?

heheh di naman, just takes a little patience to research.  Anyway... what I mean by can't use Dolby Digital is that, WMV video is a single file, which has the encoded video and audio stream on the same file.  WMV9 High Definition video is the same.  In the case of a regular DVD, your dvd player decodes 2 things; the video file and audio file are separate.  The audio file sent digitally to your amplifier to be decoded either in Dolby Digital or DTS (which ever applies).  So when dealing with WMV9, the wmv file is being played by Windows Media Player 9 and the sound is output in analog.  5.1 sound is selected by changing the sound properties in the control panel.  Since using a separate decoder uses digital out, WMV files can not be decoded by a standard amplifier.

I have seen some amplifiers on the web that has the capability to decode WMV digital stream.  I dont think Ive seen one here.  Anyway WMV9 HD movies are very scarce I doubt that they would be a standard, so there's no need to worry abou that :D

Jpadua
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dge29 on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:25 PM
hi dge29

hmm, I see... what are you using to play DVDs?  I had that problem before with my laptop also.  I found out that when I used Windows Media Player, it doesnt display on my TV, when I switched to a soft DVD player like PowerDVD or WinDVD it displays on the TV.  I upgraded my windows media player to windows media player 9 and it finally displayed on my TV.

Try using a soft DVD player like PowerDVD, WinDVD or try upgrading your windows media player to version 9.

Hope this helps.

JPadua


Im using windows media palayer 9 and powerDVD
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 13, 2004 at 03:19 AM
My HTPC:
AthlonXP 1800+ w/ Thermaltake Volcano 7+ HSF
Epox 8KHA+ VIA KT266A
1x 256MB Apacer DDR266
1x 512MB Elixer DDR400 (Generic)
17" ADI Microscan 5P
Inno3D GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB DVI
Leadtek Winfast TV2000XP Deluxe (TV w/ FM)
Audigy 1 SE (soon to be Audigy 2 ZS)
Creative Megaworks 550 5.1 THX Cert.
2x 80GB Seagate Baraccuda 7200RPM ATA100
Sony CD-RW 24/10/40
Sony DVDRom 16/40
G3 Casing w/ 4 fans
Enermax 300W PSU Dual Fan
Logitech MX700 mouse (cordless)
Logitech MOMO Force feedback wheel
Generic Boka keyboard
C-net 10/100mbps Lan card for broadband net

HT Softwares:
WinDVD 5 Platinum
Windows Media Player 9
Winamp 5 with *.mp4/*.aac/*.ac3/*.flac support
DirectX 9 as always...
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 13, 2004 at 08:24 AM
My HTPC:
AthlonXP 1800+ w/ Thermaltake Volcano 7+ HSF
Epox 8KHA+ VIA KT266A
1x 256MB Apacer DDR266
1x 512MB Elixer DDR400 (Generic)
17" ADI Microscan 5P
Inno3D GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB DVI
Leadtek Winfast TV2000XP Deluxe (TV w/ FM)
Audigy 1 SE (soon to be Audigy 2 ZS)
Creative Megaworks 550 5.1 THX Cert.
2x 80GB Seagate Baraccuda 7200RPM ATA100
Sony CD-RW 24/10/40
Sony DVDRom 16/40
G3 Casing w/ 4 fans
Enermax 300W PSU Dual Fan
Logitech MX700 mouse (cordless)
Logitech MOMO Force feedback wheel
Generic Boka keyboard
C-net 10/100mbps Lan card for broadband net

HT Softwares:
WinDVD 5 Platinum
Windows Media Player 9
Winamp 5 with *.mp4/*.aac/*.ac3/*.flac support
DirectX 9 as always...


Wow, nabuhay yung HTPC Thread!!!

Great setup, I heard the megaworks sound awsome! how much did you get it for, it used to be around 19k before.

By the way I'm setting up a new HTPC simple but, I'm really styling it to look like A/V equipment / Console

Athlon XP 2600+ 333fsb
ECS KM400-M Deluxe Mobo microATX
   - 6.1 Audio
   - USB 2.0
   - Firewire
   - Digital Audio Output
   - 10/100 Lan
512MB 333ddr
Sony Combo Drive DVD/CD-RW
Custom Acrylic Desktop Case (by Tantric with my design spec of course:))

Thermaltake Silent Boost (CPU Cooler)
Zalman Videocard Heatpipe w/ opt Fan

Well thats the heart of it so far, will transfer some of my old peripherals:

Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro (o/c 486mhz clock, 333mhz memory speed)
Asus TV/FM TV-Capture card w/ remote

SVEC IR Keyboard
ASUS IR Remote w/ mouse control

Playstation to USB converter for PS2 Controllers
Generic PS2 Race Wheel w/ Foot Pedals
MS Sidewinder 3D Joystick
MS Sidewinder Gamepad

This will be sweet once I finish this!!!
Will post pics of the case when its finished.

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 13, 2004 at 12:08 PM
i bought mine around 17K here in the Philippines, do you know where i could get the Gigaworks? the tweeters would really help improve the highs much better
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Jett on Jan 13, 2004 at 11:31 PM
I just bought a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT. With my Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard I think I would like to give this a shot.

I have the LeadTek WinFast TV2000XP Tuner PCI card. Is there software out there that would allow me to use my PC as a PVR?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 13, 2004 at 11:36 PM
I just bought a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT. With my Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard I think I would like to give this a shot.

I have the LeadTek WinFast TV2000XP Tuner PCI card. Is there software out there that would allow me to use my PC as a PVR?
the software included in you Leadtek Winfast tv200xp should be included there, or you got this card as OEM? if you don't have the installer download one at leadtek's website they have that PVR program and is also updated
Title: HTPC remote control
Post by: jpadua on Jan 16, 2004 at 09:41 AM
Hey guys, I'm sure a lot of people are looking for TV style remote controls for their HTPC, usually you can only get this by getting it in a bundle from TV cards.  There are remote like X10, ATI remotes wonder and the Nvidia remote (which comes with the Geforce CinemaFX) but its kinda hard to find here or they cost a lot.

I found another alternative, its actually a shuttle XPC accessory remote control.  It comes with a USB infrared reciever.  It also has mouse control.  Saw it in PC Express in Alabang Town Center selling for P2,500

Dont know lang how it's supposed to work cause, it doesnt come with software... it says plug and play... I'm guessing the macros are hard coded into ther usb reciever unit.  It says that at it has 19pre-programmed windows shortcuts.  

here's a picture if anybody is intersted.
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/pn31.jpg)
I love the silver color!

My Asus TV/FM card came with a remote that looks exactly the same (probably the same OEM manufacturer)
(http://www.asus.com/products/vga/tvfm/conditioner.gif)
(I think I'll paint mine silver... hmmm?)

The Asus remote can't work without the software it came with (for mouse control) otherwise, girder works fine with it using the Philips MCE Plugin :) Dunno about shuttle's remote.

Has anyone tried this? comment anyone?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 16, 2004 at 10:43 AM
For those of you who use "myhtpc"  frontend, I made some myHTPC specific wallpapers, you can download them for free hehehe :p
http://jaypadua.fotopic.net
just click on the "myHTPC" Wallpapers

* myHTPC is a free software program that allows you to customize a front end graphical interface for your HTPC, easy to configure and launch different programs. It's also girder compatible.
http://www.myhtpc.net
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 16, 2004 at 10:57 AM
I just bought a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT. With my Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard I think I would like to give this a shot.

I have the LeadTek WinFast TV2000XP Tuner PCI card. Is there software out there that would allow me to use my PC as a PVR?

Actually may kasama nang software yung Leadtek mo, but if you want to try other software, you can try ChrisTV Pro... I like ChrisTV pro because its very simple, no fancy graphics, and works well with shortcuts (easy to program with a remote).  Very small program so its not a memory hog.  TV viewing is the best ive seen (I have PowerVCR and I've tried other bigger name software) the picture is crystal clear (much clearer than my TV)  and you can set TV viewing resolution to DVD resolution 740x480 (standard PVRs are only 640x480) Recording is good too, you can record in Mpeg1, Mpeg2, DivX and other codecs.

http://www.christv.com
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aldrinpsx on Jan 16, 2004 at 10:18 PM
For those of you who use "myhtpc"  frontend, I made some myHTPC specific wallpapers, you can download them for free hehehe :p
http://jaypadua.fotopic.net
just click on the "myHTPC" Wallpapers

* myHTPC is a free software program that allows you to customize a front end graphical interface for your HTPC, easy to configure and launch different programs. It's also girder compatible.
http://www.myhtpc.net

Link wont open actual size of the image... thanks.


PEACE!!!!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 16, 2004 at 10:43 PM
http://www.mediatexx.com/
uICE, use your remote control to control your PC and softwares.

i'm using this with my leadtek winfast tv remote and the configuration is easy to figure out anyway. btw it's free!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Jett on Jan 16, 2004 at 10:59 PM
Actually may kasama nang software yung Leadtek mo, but if you want to try other software, you can try ChrisTV Pro... I like ChrisTV pro because its very simple, no fancy graphics, and works well with shortcuts (easy to program with a remote).  Very small program so its not a memory hog.  TV viewing is the best ive seen (I have PowerVCR and I've tried other bigger name software) the picture is crystal clear (much clearer than my TV)  and you can set TV viewing resolution to DVD resolution 740x480 (standard PVRs are only 640x480) Recording is good too, you can record in Mpeg1, Mpeg2, DivX and other codecs.

http://www.christv.com

Thanks!  :)  ... I've used the bundled software before but I don't like it. There seems to be a bug in the recording feature. I'll try out that programs that you suggested.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 17, 2004 at 05:32 PM
my HTPC desktop tyarannnn:
(http://www.mydestiny.net/~shinto/HTPCdesktop.JPG)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 20, 2004 at 08:04 AM
Thanks!  :)  ... I've used the bundled software before but I don't like it. There seems to be a bug in the recording feature. I'll try out that programs that you suggested.


oops, I made a mistake in one of the recording codecs, wala palang divx, mpeg4 pala :)

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 20, 2004 at 08:09 AM
Link wont open actual size of the image... thanks.


PEACE!!!!

were you talking about the link to the wallpaper?
try this link:
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=1868029&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 20, 2004 at 08:20 AM
http://www.mediatexx.com/
uICE, use your remote control to control your PC and softwares.

i'm using this with my leadtek winfast tv remote and the configuration is easy to figure out anyway. btw it's free!

Checked it out... looks like it doesnt support my Asus remote.  My remote uses a USB Infrared reciever.  The only driver I know that works with this is the philips MCE driver for girder.  

Try myHTPC its also a good front end software, its also free! www.myhtpc.net
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Jan 21, 2004 at 02:01 AM
mga peeps anyone have tried here an athlon64 board for their HTPC
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DropZite on Jan 25, 2004 at 11:01 AM
Here's my rig

AMD Athlon XP 3000+
DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B
AEROCOOL EXTREME COPPER SOCKET A/478 HSF
120gb Maxtor Sata drive
160gb Maxtor Sata drive
1024mb Kingston ValuaRam chip 333ddr (2x512mb)
Sony DRU-510A DVD-RW
Liteon DVD-rom
Sony 1.44 Floppy Drive
CFC and SMC Card reader with 2 usb
Hercules Prophetview 9800xt 256mb
17" Hercules Prophetview Pro LCD monitor
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz 5.1 surround sounds
Antec 550w psu w/ 2 gold fans
Creative 56k int. Modem
Linksys Wireless 802.1b PCI Adapter Connected to
Linksys Wireless Broadband router
Logitech Black Comfort Duo Keyboard and Mouse

I'm still looking for a good speaker. Is Creative Inspire 6.1 6600 any good? recommend some good speakers for an htpc. thanks!

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dni on Jan 25, 2004 at 02:10 PM
ok setup mo ah!!   :o :o


Here's my rig

AMD Athlon XP 3000+
DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B
AEROCOOL EXTREME COPPER SOCKET A/478 HSF
120gb Maxtor Sata drive
160gb Maxtor Sata drive
1024mb Kingston ValuaRam chip 333ddr (2x512mb)
Sony DRU-510A DVD-RW
Liteon DVD-rom
Sony 1.44 Floppy Drive
CFC and SMC Card reader with 2 usb
Hercules Prophetview 9800xt 256mb
17" Hercules Prophetview Pro LCD monitor
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz 5.1 surround sounds
Antec 550w psu w/ 2 gold fans
Creative 56k int. Modem
Linksys Wireless 802.1b PCI Adapter Connected to
Linksys Wireless Broadband router
Logitech Black Comfort Duo Keyboard and Mouse

I'm still looking for a good speaker. Is Creative Inspire 6.1 6600 any good? recommend some good speakers for an htpc. thanks!


Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 25, 2004 at 09:00 PM
Here's my rig

AMD Athlon XP 3000+
DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B
AEROCOOL EXTREME COPPER SOCKET A/478 HSF
120gb Maxtor Sata drive
160gb Maxtor Sata drive
1024mb Kingston ValuaRam chip 333ddr (2x512mb)
Sony DRU-510A DVD-RW
Liteon DVD-rom
Sony 1.44 Floppy Drive
CFC and SMC Card reader with 2 usb
Hercules Prophetview 9800xt 256mb
17" Hercules Prophetview Pro LCD monitor
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz 5.1 surround sounds
Antec 550w psu w/ 2 gold fans
Creative 56k int. Modem
Linksys Wireless 802.1b PCI Adapter Connected to
Linksys Wireless Broadband router
Logitech Black Comfort Duo Keyboard and Mouse

I'm still looking for a good speaker. Is Creative Inspire 6.1 6600 any good? recommend some good speakers for an htpc. thanks!


Why are you planning to get a 6.1 speaker when you have a 5.1 soundcard? If you like creative products, there are two good speakers in the market: Creative Megaworks 550 5.1 THX and the Creative Gigaworks S700 5.1 THX(best). I suppose you have the money to buy those since your setup is expensive. OR you could build your own Home Theater Audio Setup, (Main Speakers, Surround Speakers, Center Speaker, Subwoofer, and Amplifier). For me I'm fine with my Megaworks 550 since I don't have the money to build my own audio setup.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kane on Jan 26, 2004 at 01:17 PM
how about Klipsch Promedia 5.1?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 26, 2004 at 02:22 PM
how about Klipsch Promedia 5.1?
that is an excellent 5.1 for your computer, you can find reviews of these speakers on google, just search for it to help you decide better. thats what i did.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 26, 2004 at 02:25 PM
the klipsch is very high quality, but also comes with a heavy price tag.. but I think it has the best sounding computer speakers that is as close to a real audio setup as you can get.

By the way, has anyone been able to overclock an AthlonXP 2500+ on an ECS KM400M2 motherboard? I'm still mixed up in this overclocking thing... kinda confusing, the CPU frequency is 166mhz but it can be set up to 197mhz in 1mhz increments. So does that mean the FSB remains at 133? and the ram at 133? its kinda confusing does the PCI and AGP remain at 66/33 respectively? Ive checkd the manual of the motherboard and you can only change the CPU frequency.  I cant find settings for Clock multiplier and FSB. Help anyone?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bravoexo on Jan 26, 2004 at 07:45 PM
If that KM400M2 is an Nforce2 board then you don't have to worry about the PCI or AGP, as they are locked at 33mhz and 66Mhz respectively (unless manually overriden on some boards, like the 8RDA+)
And with most chipsets it can be asynchronus or synchronus mem to FSB.  Meaning your FSB and MEM can be 166mhz at the same time or not, just look at your ratios.   The CPU frequency is the FSB... if you up it to 197mhz, a sycnh memory would also run at 197mhz... or close to 400DDR. If asynch, for example, go 197Mhz on the FSB, but your mem can remain at 166mhz (333DDR) if your board will allow it. (this ratio, I mean)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DropZite on Jan 26, 2004 at 09:27 PM
thanks for the suggestion guys! will check those speakers out specially the Klipsch Promedia and Creative Megaworks.


@jpadua

sometimes nforce2 boards run pci/agp at a higher setting when you overclock so you have to manually set it to 66Mhz.

If you set the CPU FSB to 197 and run the memory at 1:1 with the CPU then the memory will be at 197 too. If you can't change the clock multiplier maybe your proc is locked.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 27, 2004 at 09:10 AM
Thanks guys for your tips, actually the KM400m2 is a Via KM400 Chipset, its fairly new, but I have not seen any not a single review on the board, I just got it becuase it seems to fit my HTPC requirements at a good cost... just wondering if I could push some performance on it.

KM400M2
Micro-ATX
333MHZ
6 USB 2.0 Ports (4 + 2 headers)
On Board 6 Channel Audio
On Board Lan
Sata Support
Spdif output header
On Board S3 Unichrome Graphics (good for DVD, if you dont plan to play games on it)

Anyways about my Athlon... it says on the label, (forgot how to explain the codes and stuff) but according to some sites, my chip is a remarked 2600+ remarked to 2500+, Manufactured 2003, week 35 pre locked barton.

I guess if I put it on a board with the capability to change multipliers I'm ok. :)

Right now the KM400 will only allow CPU frequency adjustment and Dimm Voltage.  There is also an option to run memory at 166mhz and to automatically detect PCI/AGP clock. (I dont really know what that does)

this is my current overclock

AthlonXP 2500+ @ 1.9ghz (11x175)
Coolermaster Silent Boost HSF

Radeon 9600pro @ 500mhz clock, 333mhz mem
Zalman VGA Heatpipe with op. Fan

3D mark score 3934

ran 3D mark several times so far no crashes
 
Is that a good mark? or can I still push the machine?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Jan 27, 2004 at 02:28 PM
just got my Audigy 2 ZS from the states, i love the software (mixer, thx, etc). so far i can't decipher the difference between the Audigy 1 and Audigy 2 ZS
Title: Aluminum HTPC Case Finally!
Post by: jpadua on Jan 28, 2004 at 10:05 AM
I have been pushing HTPCs since last yr trying to introduce it to the market and finally I'll be bringing in HTPC cases.  Nothing set in stone yet since I'll be testing the sample unit first.  I'll be recieving it in a week or so.

I just want to make list on who might be interested.  I'll be importing these babies, so as of now it will be by order basis.  

They will be in the form of ATX and MicroATX in silver, gold and black.  USB and Firewire front panel and optional VFD display and IR Remote module will also be availble.  The IR remote has a power on button to turn on the ATX power supply.

Here is a review of one of the cases
Champagne Gold, Dual Drivebays, Full ATX with VFD
http://www.ocprices.com/?rev_id=148

Still finalizing on the pricing due to shipping and taxes.

If I get a good number of possible orders then I can make arrangements for a new batch for shipment.  I'm still making some feasibility studies so theres nothing set in stone so it might roll out in a couple of months, I just want to find out it if there are a good number of possible orders to justify importation.

Let me know... email me at [email protected] so I can update you on the cases and accessories.

Future plans:
M2 Systech Customized HTPC
High Definition upscaled DVD playback (540p, 720p, 1080i)
Personal Video Recording Capable (pause, record live TV)
Home Theater Automation (lights, curtains, projection screen control)

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bravoexo on Feb 04, 2004 at 04:37 AM
Wow, ganda ah.  How much ang total damage to get one here?  I'm interested.  
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 04, 2004 at 08:33 AM
Hi Bravoexo,

Yeah solid ganda! I just recieved the sample unit yesterday... very hi-end talaga yung dating, di na mukhang PC.  Ang ganda ng 8mm thick front plate nya.. as thick as the marantz front plate.

Anyway hopefully we could get the price down by Volume order and through connections  (if any sa customs)

the first unit was sort of an investment in my part, it was a bit too expensive actually, cause It was sent via Fedex (so door to door = expensive) then I was taxed by customs (expensive din)  I also got the case with the Additional Vaccum Flourecent Display and IR Remote Kit so thats an additional cost.

I paid about 16.5k for everything (arm and a leg!!) which includes:

Bank Transfer Charges
Shipping Charges (Fedex door to door)
Customs Duties and Taxes
Additional Accessories (VFD Display and IR Kit = roughly worth 5k)

But once i pasok na namin yung cases then you can just purchase directly without worrying about the other stuff.You will be able to order the case naman without the options just like any other case and it will be much cheaper pa.

At the moment it is undecided how much the case will be. I'll just post the details here on the price and when we decide to have a volume shipment. Most probably by slow boat to keep costs down.

The case is actually affordable...  its the shipping and taxes that kill the price.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 09, 2004 at 10:13 AM
Here are Pics of my Latest HTPC Setup

Accent aluminum HTPC Case w VFD and Remote
Athlon XP 2500+ 333mhz barton
512MB DDR
ECS KM400M2 microATX
      Spdif digitial output
      6 channel audio
      USB 2.0
HEC 475w Dual Fan
Radeon 9600pro
ASUS TV/FM capture card
Thermaltake Silentboost HSF cooler
Zalman VGA Heatpipe with Opt. Fan

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/1.jpg)
Components fit niceley with enough room to breathe.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/2.jpg)
Since the case is a bit low profile (5" tall) the original configuration of my Zalman heatpipe and fan would not fit, so I modded the opt fan placement. Replaced the thumbscrews with a plain screw and moved the opt fan to the side of the heatsink so the cover would fit.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/4.jpg)
Added a lian li aluminum drive bezel which fits perfectly on the DVD drive bay... better than looking at standard DVD rom... looks cool too.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/3.jpg)
Ready for testing!

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/5.jpg)
Exposed drive tray, opening from the aluminum drive bezel

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/7.jpg)
All covered up.  You can see the Accent HTPC remote on top, got it working great using winLirc and Girder.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/8.jpg)
Vacuum Flourecent Display makes the case look really good.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/9.jpg)
All setup!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: lashee on Feb 09, 2004 at 10:54 AM
Wow!  :o Galing! If only I hab d budget  :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DropZite on Feb 09, 2004 at 11:12 AM
looks really great! Medyo compact sa loob, you could arrange the wirings para ok yung airflow sa loob at hindi maginit agad. You could tape the wires para hindi sila kalat. I like the Flourecent Display too, cool!

Kulang nalang HDTV. hehe!  ;D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 09, 2004 at 11:29 AM
Actually HDTV na yan :) its a philips Pixelplus 4:3, I'm connected to the TV via VGA, and watching upscaled DVD to 1080i :)

Regarding the wiring, actually plano ko nga yun! Ive already got cable wraps, hehehe, Before putting the power supply ok sya, yung power supply masyado maraming cables hard to manage! yung iba nga tinape at tinago ko nalang sailalim ng DVD drive.  Pero regarding cooling and airflow, ok sya... with the case all closed up, I can feel the air coming in through the front vents sa ilalim ng case near the front, looks like the the air is flowing nicely... I used to have another case, DIY na HTPC case. Normal sa temps ko ang 45deg idle 50 to 52deg load.  Now and idle ko is mga 38-39 and loaded temp ko is about 40-45! the case itself absorbs the heat I think, since more than 50% of the case is aluminum and covers a wide area mainly around the whole case. The case is nicely covered so the noise inside the case is very much dampened.  I'm using a silent boost HSF, Zalman heatpipe with fan runing at 5v, 2 60mm fans runing at 5v,  lahat silent operation... yung main source ng ingay ko is the 475w HEC.. its loud.. buti nalang the case dampens the sound.. you can hadly hear the PC running from about 2-3meters.. which is pretty good.  Dating case ko sounded like a vacuum cleaner hehehe, silent mode na yun...  
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dni on Feb 09, 2004 at 10:44 PM
around how much kaya to setup an HTPC like that?
estimate lang?   :D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Feb 09, 2004 at 11:20 PM
err.... Whats a HTPC??? ;D

Seriously, i don't know what it is. Hehe.  :P
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dni on Feb 09, 2004 at 11:57 PM
HTPC = Home Theater Personal Computer

you build a PC to be used as your home theater dvd player and a lot of other functions   ;D

to the expert (jpadua), tama diba?   ;D ;D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 10, 2004 at 08:14 AM
HTPC = Home Theater Personal Computer

you build a PC to be used as your home theater dvd player and a lot of other functions   ;D

to the expert (jpadua), tama diba?   ;D ;D

Yup that is correct! Here's a more in depth explanation.

(Home Theater Personal Computer)

What is an HTPC, to make the explanation simpler, and HTPC is basically a PC (personal computer) which has been custom built to play DVD at their highest quality. It can also work as a personal video recorder, and a media server. There are a lot of applications since the Personal Computer is highly customizable.

How do we market this idea? well most if not all new TVs coming out of the woodwork is already High Definition capable, these are TV's ranging from CRT, Plasama, Rear Projection, front Projecton and usually 16:9 widescreen Aspect Ratio. If you were in the market to invest in a new TV, the obvious choice is to buy a TV equipped with High Definition Capability. This is where technology will be going in terms of Home Entertainment. TV's without HD (high definition) will be out of date really soon. One thing that most consumers don't realize is that, HD TV's are made for High Definition Broadcasts. Buying an HDTV will get you the best picture quality. This is both True and False. True, the TV will give you the best quality you can feed through it, and False, we will not have High Definition Broadcast is limited more often than not unavailable in other countries.

Let me explain High Definition. HD is a new video standard, and is catching on in the US very quickly. In the US High Definition broadcast is present but not abundant, the reason for which is that TV networks need to upgrade all their systems to be able to broadcast in High Definition, I believe it has already been mandated in the US that all broadcasts should be able to be in High Defenition within the next 5 yrs. Ok what is high definition in the first place you may ask? There is a huge difference between Normal Definition and High Defenition, currently standard definition is 740x480 Interlaced. This is what we call the video resolution, 740 vertical lines and 480 horizontal lines, whith half the lines being show a split second at a time to show the complete picture. High Definition uses 16x9 Aspect Ration (widescreen) 1920x1080 interlaced, which is more than double the picture resolution. Sharper image, and more detail. Its almost like looking through a window. Almost like comparing wearing glasses and removing them. Its like night and day.

Where does the HTPC come into play? Well, an HTPC is what I call an alternative to a High Definition Video Scaler. A Video Scalers, is a line doubler, and upsamples regular video into High Defenition. This is what broadcast networks use to upscale their video to high definition broadcast. These video scalers would cost about $3,000 or higher. An HTPC would do the same plus more. Since there are no High Definition Broadcasts available in the philippines, not for a long time, the best quality content we can be able to attain is DVD. Unfortunately DVD is only 740x480 standard resolution and not High Definition. By using an HTPC with currently available DVDs we will be able finally create High Definition content! at the fraction of the cost of a video scaler, and is for home use, and since this is also a PC, be able to connect to the internet, surf the web, download email, play computer games, work on Documents and Spreadsheets, all from your Widescreen TV in the comfort of your own living room. In addition, its also Upgradable, so you're HTPC will never become obsolete, not in a very long time.

:)

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: arnel90 on Feb 10, 2004 at 12:14 PM
what's the price range of a HTPC?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 10, 2004 at 01:41 PM
Its hard to point out exactly how much an HTPC would cost, becuase it would depend on the kind of parts you have inside.  Just think of it as buying a brand new PC, with extra emphasis on the video card and case.  The case is hard to comeby.. all of the cases you find here are all computer cases. You can probably find a nice looking desktop case but its usually only for small form factor... others might go for the shuttle type PC.  

Bottom line is, that the price should be compared to a new PC plus a little extra (Case, remote control, display unit).  A lot of people kasi fail to realize that its a PC not a DVD player (most kasi compare the price to a DVD player).
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Feb 10, 2004 at 02:59 PM
heto na lang suggestions ko to make it easy for you to plan on building an HTPC.

you need a PC:
1) 1GHz & up CPU
2) 512MB at least of RAM
3) 40GB at least of hard drive
4) a soundcard that is 5.1 capable w/ or w/o digital-out (i.e. creative audigy series cards)
5) a DVD-ROM standard is 16x speed
6) lastly, a videocard with DVI & tv-out connections (i.e. ati radeon 9600pro/xt)

next, you need the multimedia peripherals:
1) a TV and FM tuner card (some cards have both TV & FM)

next, the softwares:
1) WinDVD or PowerDVD or whatever apps u like to watch DVD with. these softwares can also play mp3, mpeg, avi (codecs required)..., almost all video and sound files no need for winamp but if you love winamp like i do then follow your heart =P

2) software of your TV and FM tuner
3) software to enable ur remote(TV & FM tuner) to act like a universal remote. ask them about it but i use uICE for the Leadtek Winfast 2000XP TV & FM tuner card.

now the most important parts of an HTPC:
1) monitor/tv/projector/lcd...
what kind of visual display do you really like? pc monitors have the finest pixels around meaning high resolution. tv's there's this pixel plus tv that is good both monitor and tv. projector or LCD projector, size can be varied but costly to maintain. LCD, durable and good enough for visual display. all in all, it depends on how much you can spend for your visual display; arranged from cheapest to expensive: monitor, TV, LCD, LCD projector, TV projector, plasma screen.

2)the sound setup.
PC related sound setups are good enough and they are the cheapest. ranging from 4,000 to 25,000. the more expensive the louder and the better sound. there are also Home Theater Sound setups, these things cost much more than PC sound setups. but they pack more punch and sound much better than the high-end pc speaker.

i hope these things helps you with your planning. btw an average setup should cost you around 30,000-50,000 it really depends on what you buy.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 10, 2004 at 03:37 PM
Well said Schlamm!!!

If you're more on the budget side of things, I suggest using a microATX mobo.. its cheaper ranging from 2500 to 3000 and is already usb2, may built in 6ch sound (yung iba may digital out na) built in Lan...

it saves you...

USB2.0 Card
Sound Card
Lan Card

the lack of PCI slots are not so bad since most of the things you need a built into the board na.  all you need to add is the Video card and TV card. Some boards also have built in Video as well!

hmm...
I saw a nice miniATX desktop in festival mall around 3k lang.  Not sure lang kung kaya ng 250w ang athlons ang p4 kaya nya ata.

you can get svec or benq na infrared keyboad w/ built in mouse.. its mga 2500 lang

so heres a rough estimate

board (miniATX built in 5.1 / spdif) = 3200
AMD cpu = 2500
ram = 3800
video card (ati 9200se) = 4000
TV card = 2500
DVD/CD-RW combo = 3500
40gb Seagate HD = 3500
Logitech z-640 5.1 speakers = 4500
IR keyboard and mouse = 2500

mga 30,000 na toh.. heheh budget na yan

choice mo nalang what kind of case you want to use, and display device (CRT monitor, LCD monitor, HDTV, RPTV, Projector, Plasma)

If you already have a PC at home... convert it to an HTPC!!!

things you might have to upgrade

CPU at least 1ghz, 2gh and up much better
ram at least 512ddr
5.1 soundcard
video card
TV card.

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: arnel90 on Feb 10, 2004 at 04:41 PM
thanks guys, when budget permits i would consider having one.

jpadua, the case looks great, is that available locally already?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 10, 2004 at 05:04 PM
thanks guys, when budget permits i would consider having one.

jpadua, the case looks great, is that available locally already?

Not yet, this is the first of its kind to hit philippine shores. (I know cause this is the sample unit I ordered) We plan on distributing these cases here in the philippines.  Will let everyone know in the forum when we plan to get the first shipment.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 10, 2004 at 06:40 PM
hey jp,  would you know kung anong magandang wireless keyboard and mouse combo that i can use?...

i'd like to get the one that uses RF signal so I can get away at having to point it to its transmitter para lang gumana... wadyatink?...

you see, my PC is inside our room and my TV is outside (at the sala).  i was planning of hooking its video, to the TV in the sala and have my keyboard and mouse go wireless para mabitbit ko na rin dun.

i need to know the tested brand of wireless kb and mouse brand.

TIA man... mabuhay ka pre.


Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 11, 2004 at 09:53 AM
hey jp,  would you know kung anong magandang wireless keyboard and mouse combo that i can use?...

i'd like to get the one that uses RF signal so I can get away at having to point it to its transmitter para lang gumana... wadyatink?...

you see, my PC is inside our room and my TV is outside (at the sala).  i was planning of hooking its video, to the TV in the sala and have my keyboard and mouse go wireless para mabitbit ko na rin dun.

i need to know the tested brand of wireless kb and mouse brand.

TIA man... mabuhay ka pre.

Unfortunately the only RF keyboards available here are the ones from logitech and they only have a range of 6feet.. if your lucky to have good signal baka kaya mag 8feet.

What you might need is a long range RF or a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo.  I know gyration makes long rang RF keyboards also HP, Microsoft also has a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.

Do not opt for the A4 Tech wireless keyboard.. tried that before.. it claims to have an 8meter range... it only worked when I was right infront of the reciever... pag upo ko sa couch ... la na... and the reciever was only about 4feet away from the couch.

Checkout this Gyration RF keyboard/mouse review
http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=gyration_remote_1





Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Feb 11, 2004 at 11:40 AM
nice wireless devices... i like the swipe thing  ;D too bad the price is steep. :-\
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Jayem Ares on Feb 12, 2004 at 09:29 PM
     Sirs, nakakatemp talaga magsetup din ng htpc, mahilig din ako sa movies eh. PC monitor images are sharper than on tv not to mention also the sound.
     Meron ako computer celeron 1g, socket 370 board, 200+ ram,  dvdrom, onboard video, available agp, sb live5.1, altec 251, 14'' monitor.
     
     Pwede pa ba i-upgrade dito?

     :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: junji98 on Feb 12, 2004 at 10:37 PM
this htpc is intriguing

have not really seen or heard an htpc setup

tanong ko lang po:

ang computer ko ay athlon 1800+ with 512 ram, geforce FX 5200 card.  sb live na sound card (pero 2.1 lang speakers).  ala lang akong dvd rom drive pa.  

dvd drive na lang ba kulang tapos makakanuod na ako ng matinong dvd sa monitor ko, o kailangan pa din magupgrade ng mga pyesa.  nasira kasi yung luma ko na cd rom.  iniisip ko kung mag dvd rom na ako.  papasa na bang htpc ito, o nagpapanggap lang. lol  8)

junji
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: FaFa_RoLaNd on Feb 13, 2004 at 05:01 PM
of cors pwede na yang current rig mo! upgrade nalang ng sound card and dvd drive nalang.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: JT on Feb 17, 2004 at 06:05 PM
How's this for an HTPC ... HTPC 400 series from ACCENT.

(http://kanam.co.kr/kanam/admin/cate1/admin/file/HT-400S_02.JPG)

Price is S$480+ after shipping with Imon remote controller and USB VFD.

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 17, 2004 at 06:11 PM
How's this for an HTPC ... HTPC 400 series from ACCENT.

(http://kanam.co.kr/kanam/admin/cate1/admin/file/HT-400S_02.JPG)

Price is S$480+ after shipping with Imon remote controller and USB VFD.




WOW ! ! ! as in W O W
Title: Re:HTPC Setup
Post by: Jayem Ares on Feb 17, 2004 at 07:37 PM
Tanong ko lang po mga Sirs,

     Kung palitan ko po ang sa akin ng malaking monitor, mga 21 ok parin kaya?
     Onboard po ang videocard ko(pero may available pa na agp) at 14 monitor ko hindi branded. Ok naman po ang monitor, Ive been using  it for almost 2 years and been using it to watch dvds for one year now pero round edges and screen at hindi  siya flat.
      Hindi ko yata ma afford ang bumili ng receiver at speakers(separates), so yung pc ko nalang.

Title: Re:HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Feb 17, 2004 at 09:19 PM
Tanong ko lang po mga Sirs,

     Kung palitan ko po ang sa akin ng malaking monitor, mga 21 ok parin kaya?
     Onboard po ang videocard ko(pero may available pa na agp) at 14 monitor ko hindi branded. Ok naman po ang monitor, Ive been using  it for almost 2 years and been using it to watch dvds for one year now pero round edges and screen at hindi  siya flat.
      Hindi ko yata ma afford ang bumili ng receiver tsaka mga speakers, so yung pc ko nalang.


yun nga ang idea behind an HTPC. PC siya tapos Home Theater rin siya in one. ginagamit rin namin PC's namin for watching movies, sound trip, web surfing, etc. kung meron kang mas malaking monitor mas maganda siyempre. para sa receiver and speakers, hanap ka ng soundcard na maganda na pupwedeng mag Dolby Digital and DTS na DVD audio and DVD movie. yung speakers, kahit pang PC na speaker okay na rin. kung meron kang mas malakas siyempre mas maganda basta kelangan mo lang mabuo ung 5.1 (5 speakers + 1 subwoofer) na configuration para maenjoy mo ung mga DVD media.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 18, 2004 at 01:25 AM
How's this for an HTPC ... HTPC 400 series from ACCENT.

(http://kanam.co.kr/kanam/admin/cate1/admin/file/HT-400S_02.JPG)

Price is S$480+ after shipping with Imon remote controller and USB VFD.



Sayang nga nagsisisi ako I could have gotten that model! what was I thinking of! hehe anyway the one Accent sent me was the first unit, will be ordering HT-400 as well, makaka upgrade rin ako :)

The one I have is this one
(http://kanam.co.kr/kanam/admin/cate1/admin/file/1058723885ht-101s.jpg)
Came with Vacuum Flourecent Display and the Accent IR Remote.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 18, 2004 at 12:14 PM
Sayang nga nagsisisi ako I could have gotten that model! what was I thinking of! hehe anyway the one Accent sent me was the first unit, will be ordering HT-400 as well, makaka upgrade rin ako :)

The one I have is this one
(http://kanam.co.kr/kanam/admin/cate1/admin/file/1058723885ht-101s.jpg)
Came with Vacuum Flourecent Display and the Accent IR Remote.

hey JP,
don't you think this one is better?... with all the features printed up front and an additional slot for a floppy drive or a CD/DVD RW?...

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 18, 2004 at 02:07 PM
hey JP,
don't you think this one is better?... with all the features printed up front and an additional slot for a floppy drive or a CD/DVD RW?...

Actually its perfect for what I needed it for, needed a case for MicroATX and Single DVDrom bay. The HT400 is good for Full ATX mobos.  I also like the look of the drive bezel instead of a drive cover.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/8.jpg)
As you can see, my case (since they sent me a sample case) does not have the printed logos.  But According to my contact at Kanam, they can print them on the case when we order in volume already.

Its a really good case!, I just wrote a review of it for htpcnews.com It will be up maybe by tomorrow or tonight.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Feb 18, 2004 at 02:50 PM
jpadua,

Bat walang DTS and DD logos yung casing?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 18, 2004 at 02:58 PM
jpadua,

Bat walang DTS and DD logos yung casing?

Yeah nga eh, I requested that, but they told me daw na the cases dont really have the logo's printed on them as a default.  They do print them on it by request but it has to be a volume order.  The logos are silkscreen printed on to the case.

Anyone knows anybody who makes decals? like the ones for RC's and Model kits? Baka pwede magpagawa ng DD and DTS decals :D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: JT on Feb 18, 2004 at 03:08 PM
jpadua,

Bat walang DTS and DD logos yung casing?

Extra cost kasi sa kanila yun.  Kakailanganin nilang magbayad ng license sa kumpanya ng DTS at Dolby Digital kung may permanent print.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 18, 2004 at 05:47 PM
pareng jp,
ordinary casings like the mini or the full towers are cheap items... how will these HTPC casings be priced?
i would love to get one but its price, as always, would be my driving factor...
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 19, 2004 at 08:31 AM
pareng jp,
ordinary casings like the mini or the full towers are cheap items... how will these HTPC casings be priced?
i would love to get one but its price, as always, would be my driving factor...

Would probably be as expensive as a SFF barebone.  First of all it should not be compared to regular PC casings, its truly a class on its own.  It's a novelty. The object of HTPC casings is to hide that it is a PC.  Casings like Antec Overture, Sonata, dont really cut it.  Other casings in the same class would be DIGN, Silverstone, Coolemaster ATSCs.  The lian-li HTPC case is actually smaller and is already mga 7.5k, Not available here though.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 19, 2004 at 12:21 PM
Would probably be as expensive as a SFF barebone.  First of all it should not be compared to regular PC casings, its truly a class on its own.  It's a novelty. The object of HTPC casings is to hide that it is a PC.  Casings like Antec Overture, Sonata, dont really cut it.  Other casings in the same class would be DIGN, Silverstone, Coolemaster ATSCs.  The lian-li HTPC case is actually smaller and is already 12k, Not available here though.

jp, just starting to plunge (a little deeper) into this stuff (I wouldn't call it a hobby yet as my PC is still intact - i mean as a fully functional workstation/terminal only) and am a little, should i say, amazed, at what's out there...

heheh, ang gaganda din pala.

here are some of the exciting - and very nice htpc casings i've browsed through on the net.


The SilverStone Lascala SST-LC01
details at http://www.modthebox.com/review257_1.shtml


(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/photo/lco1/photo/lc01-1.jpg)


The SilverStone Lascala SST-LC02
details at http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc02.htm


(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/photo/lc02/photo/lc02-1.jpg)


The SilverStone Lascala SST-LC03
details at http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc03.htm

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/photo/lc03/photo/lc03-1.jpg)


The Lian Li PC-9100


(http://scasp.webnow.biz/upload/a0000010/en_US/prd_949.jpg)


The Lian Li PC-9300


(http://scasp.webnow.biz/upload/a0000010/en_US/prd_778.jpg)


The Antec Overture


(http://us.st7.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/directron_1781_19583222)


The Cooler Master ATC-620C-BX1


(http://www.sundialmicro.com/sundial/images/items/atc620cbx1_main.jpg)


WOW!!! ang gaganda.  Pero mas maganda pa rin yata ang casing mo jp.


Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aldrinpsx on Feb 19, 2004 at 01:30 PM
http://www.mini-itx.com/

PEACE!!!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 19, 2004 at 01:51 PM
jp, just starting to plunge (a little deeper) into this stuff (I wouldn't call it a hobby yet as my PC is still intact - i mean as a fully functional workstation/terminal only) and am a little, should i say, amazed, at what's out there...

heheh, ang gaganda din pala.

here are some of the exciting - and very nice htpc casings i've browsed through on the net.

The SilverStone Lascala SST-LC01
The SilverStone Lascala SST-LC02
The SilverStone Lascala SST-LC03
The Lian Li PC-9100
The Lian Li PC-9300
The Antec Overture
The Cooler Master ATC-620C-BX1

WOW!!! ang gaganda.  Pero mas maganda pa rin yata ang casing mo jp.

Yukon, plunge deeper! heheheh, ok ah.. dami ko nang nadedemonyo mag HTPC since I started this thread heheh.  No but seriously its a PC-AV enthusiast hobby talaga. It's a mix of both!

Yeah, those cases are popular in the dark and lonely HTPC world.  Most especially the silvertstone cases.  Silverstone is a new player in the HTPC market, I think they just started to come out late last year. Most of the Silverstone cases have drive cover's that stealth the PC peripherals in front.

The Lian-Lis are alright if you are considering a not-so-powerful htpc.  The The Lian Li PC-9100 and The Lian Li PC-9300 are both microATX form factor with the 9100 leaning towards halfheight cards.  They both use SFF psu's so you can only get max 250w so having a high power athlon paired with a high power Ati Video card might blow up your PSU :) these cases are intended for light systems, and more focused on video playback.  Not recommended for gaming. Jambam, another pinoy DVD has the Lian-li 9300, he was selling it before for 12k not sure kung nabenta na nya.

Antec Overture is very popular cause I think it's the most commercial HTPC case.  It fits a full ATX mobo and PSU.  But I've heard a lot about heat issues.  Too bad it lacks the High-End aluminum look and looks more like a media PC case then A/V equipment.

The cooler master is also popular.  Micro ATX and uses SFF powersupply just like the lian li 9100 and 9300.  Has the whole cover to stealth the drives in front.  Too bad it has no IR window.

The reason why I chose Accent HTPC by Kanam is because I wanted small form factor but also wanted to use a full size atx PSU.  The Accent HT101 was my obvious choice.  MicroATX, Full ATX PSU.  Small space requirement but good for more powerful systems.  Good for Gaming! its more than 50% aluminum so it has good heat disipation properties, and its pretty spaceous inside for good ventilation.  The included VFD and Remote is golden! The Accent remote can power on your PC.  The built in VFD window makes it look more A/V than the other cases.

Checkout the Dign Cases, to my opinion these guys are neck and neck in design and quality with Kanam.

http://www.iuneed.com

Lets all drool somemore! :D
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 19, 2004 at 02:45 PM
Hey JT,

I was just contacted by Kanam Informing me about the Release of the HT400.  The great news is that, the HT400 will come prebuilt with its own electronic PCB that hooks up to a USB header on your motherboard. Integrated on the PCBs are the USB ports, IMON Ir Reciever which will control both Power on and Reset all from the IMON Remote.  They will start shipping the case next month packaged with the IMON Remote and the Vacuum Flourecent Display. I hope they will also sell the case without these options for lower cost.

The good people over at Kanam sent me snapshots of the case.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400S_01.JPG)

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400S_vfd.JPG)

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400 inside.jpg)

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400 PSU hole.jpg)

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400 backside.jpg)

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400S cover.jpg)

This is the IMON remote
(http://imon.soundgraph.com/img/iMON_RSC/iMON_full_shot_800.jpg)
http://imon.soundgraph.com/contents/e_aboutimon.html

Can't wait to get my hands on them!!!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: JT on Feb 19, 2004 at 06:23 PM
Hey JT,

I was just contacted by Kanam Informing me about the Release of the HT400.  The great news is that, the HT400 will come prebuilt with its own electronic PCB that hooks up to a USB header on your motherboard. Integrated on the PCBs are the USB ports, IMON Ir Reciever which will control both Power on and Reset all from the IMON Remote.  They will start shipping the case next month packaged with the IMON Remote and the Vacuum Flourecent Display. I hope they will also sell the case without these options for lower cost.

Can't wait to get my hands on them!!!

That's great.  Check ko nga ito.  Im really planning for HTPC for my room upgrade.
 
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Feb 20, 2004 at 12:12 AM
comment on the HT400:
as you can see, there is plenty of room to put another HD. why can't they do that? give room for hard drives to breath. if i'm going to use a desktop type case i would use heatsinks and fans to cool my hard drives. and how about a side mount floppy drive just in case you need to use the FD? i'm just upset to see these HTPC casings go to waste due to internal design flaws. there's also this case that uses only SLIM type cd/dvd-rom drives. wtf is that  :o. it's still a pc desktop not a laptop.

jpadua: if you have contacts with the makers of such HTPC casings could you be their R&D for the internal design of these casings because to tell you the truth, they suck. no offense meant. i hope you also know that  :) since you own one already.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bravoexo on Feb 20, 2004 at 05:20 AM
(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/photo/lco1/photo/lc01-1.jpg)

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/photo/lco1/photo/lc01-2.jpg)

These are already available at XtremeModz...P6,999 lang
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 20, 2004 at 09:06 AM
there's also this case that uses only SLIM type cd/dvd-rom drives. wtf is that  :o. it's still a pc desktop not a laptop.

Hmm heheh, yeah... I think that the reason they used slim Type cd/dvd-roms is so that the case can remain as low profile as possible and still have some space underneath the drive.  It looks funky though, they should have just used slim type laptop dvd rom drives that are slot driven to maintain the aesthetics if thats what they were after.  It just looks plain o'l ugly with the Laptop dvdrom drive!

comment on the HT400:
as you can see, there is plenty of room to put another HD. why can't they do that? give room for hard drives to breath. if i'm going to use a desktop type case i would use heatsinks and fans to cool my hard drives. and how about a side mount floppy drive just in case you need to use the FD? i'm just upset to see these HTPC casings go to waste due to internal design flaws.

jpadua: if you have contacts with the makers of such HTPC casings could you be their R&D for the internal design of these casings because to tell you the truth, they suck. no offense meant. i hope you also know that  :) since you own one already.

Yeah I agree with you, the design flaw would probably be the drive cages.  As you can see the space on the left and right sides inside the case can clearly fit four 3.25 bays.  And also underneath the DVD rom another HD can be fitted in.  

I think that they have planned this setup none the less.  Having all that space counts for the ventilation.  Its also not meant to be a case with a lot of fans, obviously silence and heat was considered in the design ( I personally would want to have a silent HTPC compared to one with a lot of fans sounding like a vacuum cleaner). Having too many hard drives may account for excessive heat, especially being in a desktop type configuration.  But I do agree with you, they should have at least added a third 3.25 bracket on the hard drive cage for an optoinal FDD and a 3.25  bracket underneath the DVD space for another HD. With normal configurations you can only have 4 peripherals (ex. 3HDs and a DVDrom drive) and 2 FDDs.

I will mention that to Kanam.  Possibly do a case review once I get the HT400.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 20, 2004 at 09:22 AM
comment on the HT400:
as you can see, there is plenty of room to put another HD. why can't they do that? give room for hard drives to breath. if i'm going to use a desktop type case i would use heatsinks and fans to cool my hard drives. and how about a side mount floppy drive just in case you need to use the FD? i'm just upset to see these HTPC casings go to waste due to internal design flaws. there's also this case that uses only SLIM type cd/dvd-rom drives. wtf is that  :o. it's still a pc desktop not a laptop.

jpadua: if you have contacts with the makers of such HTPC casings could you be their R&D for the internal design of these casings because to tell you the truth, they suck. no offense meant. i hope you also know that  :) since you own one already.

I so very strongly agree with schlamm, jp...
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 20, 2004 at 10:02 AM
I so very strongly agree with schlamm, jp...

Yep! in anycase thats a really good Idea.  I already made some orders so I'll be stocking a few of these cases.  We'll probably be stocking at least 5 units of different Accent HTPC cases most likely the HT400 and the the full atx version of the HT100 and the HT200.    
The HT400 retails at $270 in the US as a complete package with the built in IMON remote and usb VFD.  So It would more or less be the same or a bit lower.  

For the additional hard drive and FDD suggestion, maybe I can just have a bracket fabricated.  It's not too difficult.  A bracket for a HD under the DVD and an optional bracket for FDD on the other side of the DVD cage.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 20, 2004 at 11:59 AM
more power to you jp!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: HTPC case now accepting orders!
Post by: jpadua on Feb 20, 2004 at 02:08 PM
I moved this post to the Assorted buy and Sell thread in the pinoy dvd member exchange.

Anyway, visit my website, I also have it posted there.
www.m2systech.com

Thanks
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 23, 2004 at 08:43 AM
(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/photo/lco1/photo/lc01-1.jpg)

These are already available at XtremeModz...P6,999 lang

I went to XtremeModz yesterday to take a look at the Silverstone LC01.  The price is 9.9k.  The pricing on the website was an error daw.  I took a look at the case too... its ok lang, the front doors are kinda flimsy they shake and rattle.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 24, 2004 at 08:18 AM
Hi guys,

I'm currently building my HTPC centered website... I'm planning to put tutorial's tips etc... mostly stuff Ive posted and responded to on this thread.   Any other suggestions? your input is greatly appreciated. Thanks

http://www.m2systech.com

Jay
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 24, 2004 at 04:51 PM
sir jpadua,

i haven't been able to find an inexpensive 1080i capable dvd player, so an HTPC is probably my only option right now... problem is, my TV only has component inputs... is there a video card or an adaptor that will let me enjoy 1080i thru the HD component inputs of my TV?  i just need to test whether 1080i works on my TV so i might just get a video card and use it in my existing PC.

thanks!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 24, 2004 at 06:26 PM
hhhmmm, nga pala jp, do you know of any video card that has a component video out.  I'd like to make use of of my TV as my monitor at times...  ???
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bravoexo on Feb 25, 2004 at 06:18 AM
ATI has that HDTV adapter for their Radeon line of Video Cards.... component out yun.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 26, 2004 at 08:27 AM
ATI has that HDTV adapter for their Radeon line of Video Cards.... component out yun.

Yup, kaso wala dito as usual... you might have to get it sa US pa... There are two kinds by the way, so better check what is compatible with the ATI that you have or will buy.  If you are lucky you might be able to find an ATI All In wonder here its usually bundled with the ATI RF remote and the Dongle... I think the 9800 AIW has the remote and dongle.. dont know lang if you can find it here.  It's also a TV-tuner card by the way.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Feb 26, 2004 at 12:38 PM
Yup, kaso wala dito as usual... you might have to get it sa US pa... There are two kinds by the way, so better check what is compatible with the ATI that you have or will buy.  If you are lucky you might be able to find an ATI All In wonder here its usually bundled with the ATI RF remote and the Dongle... I think the 9800 AIW has the remote and dongle.. dont know lang if you can find it here.  It's also a TV-tuner card by the way.

yaiks!!! ibig sabihin pahirapan pa rin to?...
haaaahay...
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 26, 2004 at 12:53 PM
yaiks!!! ibig sabihin pahirapan pa rin to?...
haaaahay...

Wala bang VGA input yung HDTV mo? diba Samsung DLP yung TV mo? it has VGA/DVI inputs.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Mar 02, 2004 at 10:05 PM
new mini pc from MSI
(http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20040227/images/mega865.jpg)

Chipset Nvidia nForce2 + MCPT
CPUs supported AMD Athlon XP
Memory supported Dual DDR400
IDE supported ATA 133
Slot 1 AGP 8x
1 PCI
Front panel interfaces 1x S/PDIF digital sound input, optical
1x mic in
1x speaker out
2x USB 2.0 ports
1x FireWire (IEEE1394) 6-pin
1x FireWire (IEEE1394) 4-pin
Back panel interfaces 2x VGA ports
2x PS/2 (mouse + keyboard)
1x RJ45 - Ethernet 10/100 Mbits/s
2x USB 2.0
1x parallel port
1x video t (S-video)
1x S/PDIF out, optical
3x multichannel audio
Power 250 Watts
Accessories Integrated WiFi 802.11b (11 Mbits/s)
Remote control
AM/FM antenna

The most amazing function is certainly the one that lets you use the MEGA 180 with no memory, hard drive or even a processor. You just add a CD or DVD player and the device works like a home audiovisual system, playing CD Audio, CD-MP3 and radio. The big LCD screen will display all the information you need, like the radio station selected. Nor do these features disappear when the computer is running. It is all driven by Windows-installed applications. Unlike the first MEGA PC, the front can stay on in PC mode, which is really convenient.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: woody on Mar 03, 2004 at 02:36 PM
If you can afford it, here a nice mobo for a powerhouse HTPC:

(http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-671/lv671-s.jpg)

www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-671.HTM (http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-671.HTM)

A Pentium M mobo in mini-ITX form factor. Just  pop in a Pentium M retail proc, you get a very fast, fan-less system!

Both are available in Akihabara for about Y150K(!).

 8)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 03, 2004 at 02:44 PM
If you can afford it, here a nice mobo for a powerhouse HTPC:

(http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-671/lv671-s.jpg)

www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-671.HTM (http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-671.HTM)

A Pentium M mobo in mini-ITX form factor. Just  pop in a Pentium M retail proc, you get a very fast, fan-less system!

Both are available in Akihabara for about Y150K(!).

 8)

wow! maganda nga yan! maka gawa ka ng HTPC na lowprofile na halos kasing laki ng DVD player! wala ba dito nyan?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: woody on Mar 04, 2004 at 08:30 AM
@jp

afaik it is only available here in tokyo, in very limited quantities.

the good news is prices on Pentium M procs have gone down to half the previous level, from stratospheric to just sky-high.

On the mini-ITX mobo:

Chip set is  i855GM+ICH4, onboard  VGA, optical out for 6ch audio, GB LAN,  PCI×1+Mini-PCI×1, PC card slot ×1 (baseplate back) +CF slot ×1 (same), DDR DIMM×1 )looks like SO-DIMM), DDR200/266.

Although Mini-ITX, the PC card & CF slot are on a  baseplate on the underside of the PCB, so 'standard' ITX cases may not work out of the box.

Uses an AC adapter (60W), 4 pin ATX12V; IDE is 2.5-in standard  44 pin, FDD uses proprietary flat ribbon cable.

(http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20040306/image/npm1.gif)(http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20040306/image/npm5.gif)

 8)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 04, 2004 at 08:56 AM
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD03MjImdXJsX3BhZ2U9MQ==

Check out this new 2500+ Mobile Athlon... looks pretty impressive, the nice thing about it is that it can be used on a desktop motherboard, which means lower voltages and heat with the same 2500+ performance... can be overclocked to an eqivalent athlon xp 3200.  

Too bad here I think computer shops only sell the desktop version and I highly doubt that the Athlon-m will be sold as separate items.... can anyone confirm this?

It would be cool to run an Athlon-m on a MicroATX board using a low profile case...  yum
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: woody on Mar 04, 2004 at 12:34 PM
well, after some detective work, i've tracked down the one store that sells this in akihabara, tokyo.

i ordered a unit, OPN is 'AXMH2500FQQ4C' and stepping is said to be 'AQYFA'. woof..woof...

i hope to be in tokyo proper over the weekend to pick it up. sana wag mag-snow...

;-)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 04, 2004 at 01:45 PM
since you are in japan you might want to look for this Mini-ITX case... it looks really cool and fanless too uses Heatpipe technology.. checkout thehuge heatsink on this thing.

http://www.mini-itx.com/#story0311
(http://www.mini-itx.com/news/images/story0311.jpg)
(http://www.scythe.co.jp/en/cooler/images/Epiamini.jpg)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: woody on Mar 04, 2004 at 02:37 PM
this is a 'quietness' casing as sold in akihabara.  

nice, very well built. as it should be - costs about php15k w/a 60W power adapter.

 8)
Title: 480p VS 1080i DVD upscale
Post by: jpadua on Apr 01, 2004 at 01:16 PM
Someone was asking once in one of the threads (been tryin to look for it) if there is really a difference in viewing 480p againts 1080i upscaled DVD.

Well to make things easier, I tooks some screen shots so those who are still getting into this whole HTPC thing can see the difference. :)

How the screenshots were taken:

720x480p desktop resolution - standard Capture using Sonic Cineplayer.  Viewed at 800x600 full screen then desktop capture (using the PrintScrn key) for equal comparison.

1920x1080i desktop resolution - Capture using FFDshow grab, using Zoomplayer, Sonic codecs, FFDshow post processing, Gradual Denoise 30, unsharp mask 25, Resize 1920x1080, resize algorithm Area, chroma and luma sharpen at 2.0. Viewed at 800x600 full screen then desktop capture (using the PrintScrn key) for equal comparison.

480p - take a look at Frodo in the background (hahaha! kidding)
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/480p-sample.JPG)
1080i - Notice Sam's hair is not as blurred as the 480p shot
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/1080i-sample.JPG)

480p - Compare Frodo's Hair with the 1080i version
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/480p-sample2.JPG)
1080i - Compare the texture of the fabric on Frodo's cloak and his Elven Pin
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/1080i-sample2.JPG)


If you look at the screen shots, you might say that the 1080i version is just slightly sharper... well my answer to that is yes, but it makes a whole lot of difference when you watch it in motion.  Another thing to consider is that I downsized 1080i to 800x600 to make an equal comparison.

Sharpening, and postprocessing settings are more of personal preference, so results will vary depending on how much you want to post process your image.
Title: HTPC casing
Post by: jpadua on Apr 01, 2004 at 01:19 PM
By the way... I'm getting some Accent HTPC cases in about 1week, I'll post pictures. :) I only have 5 PCs coming in so PM if interested.  actually may naka reserve na na 2 so that makes it 3 left :D
Title: HTPC gallery
Post by: jpadua on Apr 01, 2004 at 01:22 PM
If you want to see other people HTPC setup, check out this gallery :)

http://htpcnews.com/main.php?id=gallery
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Apr 01, 2004 at 03:20 PM
Off-topic:

I'm wondering how do you make your PC's video output into "anamorphic widescreen" signals to your TV when playing dvds?

I connected my PC to my 4:3 direct view TV and started playing some DVDs. The dvds played in *letterbox* widescreen and not anamorphic, despite the fact the dvds are all anamorphic ws encoded. You'll probably notice the same thing with any other players (i use cyberlink 4.0 xp) when playing a dvd in "fullscreen" mode with your pc monitor also. Btw, my tv has a feature which allows it to detect autodetect anamorphic ws signals coming from any input sources so it can switch automatically into that mode upon detection.

I used to have the creative dxr2 dvd decoder pci card before. This card manages to send "anamorphic widescreen" signals to my TV and everything plays well. How come the software decoders programs cannot do the same?    

Any tips/suggestions is greatly appreciated? :)
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 01, 2004 at 04:18 PM
hmm I never had a problem with anamorphic wide screen.  On PowerDVD isnt there an option if you want to watch in widescreen?
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Apr 01, 2004 at 08:44 PM
hmm I never had a problem with anamorphic wide screen.  On PowerDVD isnt there an option if you want to watch in widescreen?

powerdvd plays widescreen correctly, but i'm wondering why it cannot output the same as the creative dxr2 dvd hardware decoder pci card. powerdvd makes widescreen into letterbox.

Probably its the software. I'll try some other players. What programs do you use? is it the same programs as the ones you used with the LOTR screenshots?

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 02, 2004 at 09:03 AM
powerdvd plays widescreen correctly, but i'm wondering why it cannot output the same as the creative dxr2 dvd hardware decoder pci card. powerdvd makes widescreen into letterbox.

Probably its the software. I'll try some other players. What programs do you use? is it the same programs as the ones you used with the LOTR screenshots?


For those screenshots, for 480p I used Sonic Cineplayer (really good!) and for 1080i I was using Zoomplayer and Sonic's codecs.

I'm trying to understand what you mean when you say anamorphic and letterbox.  Is your TV a widescreen (16x9)or a regular TV? (4x3).

Anamorphic is when the picture is from edge to edge, so if you are using a 16x9 display it stretches the picture so that there are no black bars above and below.  If you set your display to anamorphic on a 4x3 display, then you will have a stretched picture but with wrong dimemsions (like people look stretched vertically)

Letter box (correct me if i'm wrong on this one) corrects the vertical stretch on 4x3 displays by adding black bars above and below to have a correct aspect ratio

Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Apr 02, 2004 at 07:57 PM
As i mentioned before, my tv is a 4:3 (square) type and *not* 16:9 (rectangular). Despite this, the TV has two settings (standard and widescreen mode). In widescreen mode, the screen is reduced to accomodate a rectangular (16:9) viewing therefore black bars appear on the top and bottom part of the tv screen. Watching anamorphic ws dvds in this mode looks very clear. Btw, watching letterbox dvds in this mode, makes the picture look stretched that's why I use the standard mode, meaning 4:3.  

Btw, since I have dvds that are either letterbox (ie. The Rock and Conair) and anamorphic ws (ie. LOTR), i can readily discern the difference bet. the two. Comparing the two modes on my tv, anamorphic dvds look much clearer in the widescreeen mode on my tv.

Now onto the problem. Using my PC connected to the TV to view an anamorphic encoded dvd, the tv does not switch to its widescreen mode which means that the PC video output is not sending any anamorphic signal to the TV. Comparing, a regular set top dvd player and the PC playing the same anamorphic encoded dvd, the regular dvd player outputs a clearer picture simply because it sends an anamorphic signal to the tv, making the tv switch to its widescreen mode. While the PC software player does not do that.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 03, 2004 at 09:19 AM
As i mentioned before, my tv is a 4:3 (square) type and *not* 16:9 (rectangular). Despite this, the TV has two settings (standard and widescreen mode). In widescreen mode, the screen is reduced to accomodate a rectangular (16:9) viewing therefore black bars appear on the top and bottom part of the tv screen. Watching anamorphic ws dvds in this mode looks very clear. Btw, watching letterbox dvds in this mode, makes the picture look stretched that's why I use the standard mode, meaning 4:3.  

Btw, since I have dvds that are either letterbox (ie. The Rock and Conair) and anamorphic ws (ie. LOTR), i can readily discern the difference bet. the two. Comparing the two modes on my tv, anamorphic dvds look much clearer in the widescreeen mode on my tv.

Now onto the problem. Using my PC connected to the TV to view an anamorphic encoded dvd, the tv does not switch to its widescreen mode which means that the PC video output is not sending any anamorphic signal to the TV. Comparing, a regular set top dvd player and the PC playing the same anamorphic encoded dvd, the regular dvd player outputs a clearer picture simply because it sends an anamorphic signal to the tv, making the tv switch to its widescreen mode. While the PC software player does not do that.

Oh! sorry I must have passed over it when I was scanning your first post (4:3 Direct view TV).

Ok down to your problem... I guess it may be case to case.. I use sonic Cineplayer, and there are options to display letterbox, or anamorphic.  While zoomplayer lets you change the aspect ratio.  So in my case I have to change it manually I guess, although I have not encountered a problem like this yet.

my set is a Pixelplus 4:3 HDTV ready.  I have my PC connected to its VGA input.  I define my resolutions with powerstrip.  I actually created a 1920x1080i resolution that is automatically does a anamorphic squeeze, then I adjust the aspect ratio only once.  Everytime I watch anamorphic DVDs I use this mode.  In an event that I watch Letterbox DVDs or fullscreen 4:3 I switch to 1280x1024i.

It could be software din... try sonic Cineplayer.  It has to modes Letter box and Anamorphic Widescreen. Maybe that would work with your setup.
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ADM202E on Apr 03, 2004 at 03:19 PM
Here are Pics of my Latest HTPC Setup

Accent aluminum HTPC Case w VFD and Remote
Athlon XP 2500+ 333mhz barton
512MB DDR
ECS KM400M2 microATX
      Spdif digitial output
      6 channel audio
      USB 2.0
HEC 475w Dual Fan
Radeon 9600pro
ASUS TV/FM capture card
Thermaltake Silentboost HSF cooler
Zalman VGA Heatpipe with Opt. Fan

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/htpc_setup/8.jpg)


Dude this is so cool! Ngaun  I will appreciate  the  "real thing" HTPC. Parang Marantz! Pls keep on pushing  the local sales/distribution of Accent aluminum HTPC Case w VFD and Remote!

I assume the  LCD comes with the case right? Where  was it connected? How about  the remote? Other programs that the remote can offer?

Pls inform  us  kung may alam kana na sales nito locally.

Thanks!!!
Title: Re:Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 05, 2004 at 08:41 AM
Dude this is so cool! Ngaun  I will appreciate  the  "real thing" HTPC. Parang Marantz! Pls keep on pushing  the local sales/distribution of Accent aluminum HTPC Case w VFD and Remote!

I assume the  LCD comes with the case right? Where  was it connected? How about  the remote? Other programs that the remote can offer?

Pls inform  us  kung may alam kana na sales nito locally.

Thanks!!!

ADM708S,

Dude! ok talaga tong case. Sa sobrang ganda neto, I ordered 5 cases of the HT-400.  The one in my setup was only an HT-101.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400S_01.JPG)
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400/HT-400S_02.JPG)

2 na nag pareserve saakin, so I might have 3 more left.  The cases are coming after Holyweek! :)
PM me or email mo ako sa [email protected]

It's 3 pieces, The case, the LCD/VFD and the Remote. Separately Priced.

There are 2 Variants.
Parallel VFD / Serial Accent IR HTPC Remote Kit (advantage- compatible with Girder)

Imon USB VFD / Imon MM IR remote with internal reciever.
http://imon.soundgraph.com/contents/e_201.html

Jay Padua
www.m2systech.com
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ADM202E on Apr 13, 2004 at 07:43 PM
Jay pre, I received your mail regarding the price. Medyo mahal pala talaga. But im really thinking about it. Im just waiting for my stocks to the right price and will inform you if  kukuha ako  pre. Anyways can  we  see  the actual demo? Anyone got their htpc  from  you  pre?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 14, 2004 at 08:20 AM
teka ADM708S,  PM kita :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Apr 14, 2004 at 09:02 PM
Hey lads,

New on this Forum.
By the way here's my HTPC set up..

Pentium IV 2.0
Asus P4PE-X/TE Motherboard Max 800FSB
Geforce 4 64MB 8X AGPwith Video & S-video output
Vibra 128 Soundcard with SPDIF out (my old souncard but can output DD/DTS)
Sony DVD rom
128 MB DDR
17" Viewsonic G773 Graphics Series Monitor (Sometimes hook it on XG-135LC CRT Front PJ)


SOFTWARES

POWER DVD
WINDVD Platinum Series
Windows Media Player 9
Power Strip
YXY Aspect ratio Controller
myHTPC

* Im looking for remote control for my HTPC any selling locally?





Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 16, 2004 at 09:09 AM
Have you tried hooking it up to an HDTV? the picture will look awesome :) The beauty of the HTPC is its power to upscale your Video,  assuming you are using your front PJ, you can probably set your resolution to something like 960x540p.  Try zoomplayer coupled with FFdshow to further enhance your picture quality.

Regarding the remote control, I dont think there are any being sold separately here.  Your best bet would be to add a TV-Tuner that comes with a nice remote, then reprogram your remote with Girder.  Too bad had I known earlier I could have ordered an HTPC remote control for you.  I just ordered some remotes from the manufacturer, but they already have owners.  I can probably add an order for you when we re-order parts from the manufacturer again.

Tons of guides at htpcnews.com you should check it out :)

You've got a nice setup, but thats only the beggining... wait till you start really getting into it :D its addicting.

Next steps:

Upgrade your ram to 512DDR,
Upgrade your Video card to an ATI card (to be able to do 1080i on your PJ)
Go silent!
    Silent PSU (Enermax)
    Silent HSF (ThermalTake Silent Boost)
    Silent VGA Cooler (a lot of brands out there, Id recommend the heatpipe)
Software
    Upgrade your codecs (sonic is the best)
    Theatertek ($69) or Zoomplayer ($20)
    FFDshow video post processor (free)
    PVR software (SageTV, Showshifter)
Aesthetics
    HTPC Case, to blend your HTPC with your existing AV Equipment
    (Accent, Dign, Silverstone, Antec Overture etc.)





Title: New HTPC Case Pics
Post by: jpadua on Apr 29, 2004 at 08:54 AM
Hi My HT-400S case finally arrived yesterday... took some snapshots click the link to check it out.

http://jaypadua.fotopic.net/c166539.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dayday on Apr 29, 2004 at 09:43 AM
Jay,

I sent you an email.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: FaFa_RoLaNd on May 01, 2004 at 12:26 AM
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3654/myrig2.JPG

My XPC Rig:

SN41G2 V.2
Logitech MX duo keyboard and mouse
Samsung 15" LCD monitor ( soon to be replaced by MAG HD772V)
Belking wireless G base adapter
Liteon DVD drive ( soon to be replaced by Pioneer A07)
Athlon XP 2600 barton
CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200C2 (512MBX2)
Sapphire Radeon 9800XT
Silverstone 6 in 1 media reader

HT setup

Yamaha reciever
Philips TV
Mission M7C2
Mission M72
Mission M7d
Pioneer DVD for display purposed nalang! ahihihihihi!
Gamecube
Xbox (not in the pic.. connected wirelessly)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 01, 2004 at 09:10 AM
Hi JPadua. It seems you are the most advanced HTPC user here. I admire your knowledge. I am quite new with this and perhaps you can help me. I am using FP from Epson. It's EMP 30 which is an svga one. Could powerstrip do anything good with it in terms of enhancing picture quality, let alone fixing the resolution?

Thanks for any input.


Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 03, 2004 at 09:17 AM
Hi JPadua. It seems you are the most advanced HTPC user here. I admire your knowledge. I am quite new with this and perhaps you can help me. I am using FP from Epson. It's EMP 30 which is an svga one. Could powerstrip do anything good with it in terms of enhancing picture quality, let alone fixing the resolution?

Thanks for any input.


Eddie

Hi Eddie,

Yes! if your FP can accept 480p 540p and 1080i and has a VGA port, you can create resolutions like 1920x1080i  :)

Picture quality depends on the type of DVD player you are using.  Sonic codecs have the best PQ.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 04, 2004 at 05:49 AM
Hi Jpadua. thanks for the reply.
I am currently using an Asus 16x player and Power DVD v.5 plus Powerstrip. Can it do the job?

I also have some questions about SB soundcards. I noticed almost none of the stores at Cyberzone sell them and when I asked one owner why, he said too many problems with the card. Is it true? I am planning on getting the Audigy 2 ZS but now I am afraid to. And also where cn I buy and what kind of cable should I use to connect it to my Denon 3803 amp? Thanks again Jpadua.

Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 04, 2004 at 09:04 AM
Actually any card will do as long as it has spdif output, so even the SBlive 5.1 card will work just fine :) The audigy2 ZS I have not tried this yet.  But I do know that the Audigy1 works becuase I have that on another HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 04, 2004 at 11:57 AM
Thanks Jay. Please allow me a newbie question. What is spdif and what kind of wire should I need to connect the card to my 3803?

Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 04, 2004 at 12:41 PM
Spdif output is digital out, on common audio equipment you might see the labels Coaxial or Optical.  This sends the raw unporcessed audio data to your Amplifier/Decoder.

Depending on what kind of digital output you have will determine the kind of connector you need.  If your source uses Coaxial (looks like an RCA female plug) you can use a good RCA cable or if you are willing to splurge, a Digital Coaxial Cable (which is basically the same thing with more sheilding).   If your source has optical outputs then you need to use a Toslink optical cable.  Either or is good.  Sound quality is not an issue since the source is sending digital data (1 and 0s) to you amplifier's audio decoder.  Quality is now reliant on your decoder.

If you are using a SoundBlaster Card, this uses a mini-phono jack for spdif output.  You can just buy any good mono-mini-phono jack to RCA converter, then plug your digital coax cable to it and the other end to your Digital Coax input on your amplifier/decoder.

Once you have done that, make sure that your windows mixer is set to use Digital Out.  Then have your DVD software player's audio codec use spdif output.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 04, 2004 at 12:55 PM
I've got some new pics of my latest HTPC

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400s1.jpg)

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/ht400s2.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 05, 2004 at 07:07 AM
Hello again Jay. Thank you very much for the great info. That's a nice HTPC setup you got there. But i saw in one of of your posts that it costs quite a bundle. But I really can't stop drooling over it. I noticed you seem to have a marantz amp. It sounds great too.

Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 05, 2004 at 08:58 AM
Hello again Jay. Thank you very much for the great info. That's a nice HTPC setup you got there. But i saw in one of of your posts that it costs quite a bundle. But I really can't stop drooling over it. I noticed you seem to have a marantz amp. It sounds great too.

Eddie

yeah.... I drooled for months until I couldnt take it anymore =)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on May 05, 2004 at 09:04 AM
I got into thinking about HTPC due to the restrictions of where I live... very small home.

I just started this when I got my computer a month ago, currently my set-up:

Athlon XP 2600+
inno3d GFX5200
on board sound card
LG Colin DVD-rom

My future upgardes are:
Gainclone amp
M-Audio Revolution 7.1 soundcard (hopefully within month  ;D )
TV-tuner card (any recommendations?)
21" or larger computer monitor (hmm... this one will take some time, plan on selling my TV, Monitor, VHS and Radio for this ;D )

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 05, 2004 at 09:36 AM
I got into thinking about HTPC due to the restrictions of where I live... very small home.

I just started this when I got my computer a month ago, currently my set-up:

Athlon XP 2600+
inno3d GFX5200
on board sound card
LG Colin DVD-rom

My future upgardes are:
Gainclone amp
M-Audio Revolution 7.1 soundcard (hopefully within month  ;D )
TV-tuner card (any recommendations?)
21" or larger computer monitor (hmm... this one will take some time, plan on selling my TV, Monitor, VHS and Radio for this ;D )



For your TV-tuner card... this may not be the best... but I think its one of the most compatible cards in the market... Winfast XP tv-tuner by Leadtek.
An HTPC enthusiast recommendation for a  TV-card would be a Hauppage PVR250 or 350 but I have yet to see one here...

The rest of your set-up is fine at the moment.  If you plan to use a big TV for DVD viewing,  I highly suggest you download TV-tool... this GREATLY enhances tv-output for Nvidia cards other cards dont apply.

maybe if you already have a 21" or bigger you can already connect this to your PC via s-video.  Keep your monitor for your computing needs and only use the TV for DVD and PC Games :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on May 05, 2004 at 09:53 AM


For your TV-tuner card... this may not be the best... but I think its one of the most compatible cards in the market... Winfast XP tv-tuner by Leadtek.
An HTPC enthusiast recommendation for a  TV-card would be a Hauppage PVR250 or 350 but I have yet to see one here...

The rest of your set-up is fine at the moment.  If you plan to use a big TV for DVD viewing,  I highly suggest you download TV-tool... this GREATLY enhances tv-output for Nvidia cards other cards dont apply.

maybe if you already have a 21" or bigger you can already connect this to your PC via s-video.  Keep your monitor for your computing needs and only use the TV for DVD and PC Games :)

I actually have my computer connected to my 21" TV at the moment (they are side by side anyway due to space restrictions) and my sound card is connected to my mini component... not yet surround but at least at stereo.

is there such a thing as an S-Video to RCA connector cable?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 05, 2004 at 09:56 AM
yes there is, (s-video to RCA) but its just as bad as using a regular RCA.. s-video signal is converted back to RCA... RCA has the least best video connection you can use... if your TV has an S-video input, I suggest you use a good s-video cable to connect to your PC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on May 05, 2004 at 10:02 AM
well... my TV doesn't have a S-Video input... I just used the RCA output of my video card and connected it to the RCA input on my TV.

Where did you get your case? is it available locally? how much?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 05, 2004 at 11:12 AM
My cases are not locally available... I imported them myself... its expensive You'll say i'm crazy paying that amount for a case :D so I wont mention it here heheh PM me nalang if you want to know.. ;)

ganyan talaga pag naadict ka na...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on May 05, 2004 at 12:47 PM
dang... addict ka nga  ::) buti na lang wala pa ako sa stage mo...

how are you going to put a dvd drive on that case?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 05, 2004 at 12:57 PM
nagsimula sa pag tikim tikim... hahaha

yeah... you put the DVD drive behind the Aluminum Faceplate, theres drive cage for it to line it up to the DVD tray slot.  You then just replace the plastic front bezel with the included aluminum bezel :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on May 05, 2004 at 02:37 PM
not to be OT but are you still interested in the revolution 7.1? I tracked down its local distributor a month ago.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 05, 2004 at 03:00 PM
not to be OT but are you still interested in the revolution 7.1? I tracked down its local distributor a month ago.

Not at the moment :) My Marantz can only take up to 6.1 and I primarily use spdif.  The 7.1 is actually good for Recording Studio PCs becuase they can us 8 line outputs from the PC, not to mention the 96/24bit DACs.  I'll maybe think about M-audio if I start setting up a personal mini digital recording studio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on May 05, 2004 at 04:20 PM
that's what I was planning :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 05, 2004 at 08:29 PM
Hi Jay. I got another question for you if you don't mind. My pc conked out last night. No signal but was able to boot. Don't know why. I tried my laptop to view dvd with my FP and I noticed that the card was ATI Radeon mobile 7500. Is it any good as compared with GEForce 440? Thanks again for the time.

Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: zerone_null on May 06, 2004 at 05:05 AM
modded all the way.  earn bucks and spend the right way.
(http://server6.uploadit.org/files/zerone-oldmod.JPG)

this was my setup HTPC.. still doing some upgrading to make it a real HTPC.

(http://server6.uploadit.org/files/zerone-oldmod2.JPG)

i hard modified the LCD to the front of the case so that while playing a movie in main screen i can do some stuff like ques, burning, lol even surfing net.   Most of the time LCD is just for temp and stuff monitoring.

(http://server6.uploadit.org/files/zerone-oldmod3.JPG)

AMD 2500+ Barton (OC 3200+) for that extra juice when burning and DVDing @ same time. ;D
EPOx 8rda+ rev2.1   --> with 1394 "firewire" (wishin for an iPOD...maybe soon)
Thermaltake volcano 7+ -> changed to Zalman 7000Cu (silent cooling for the movies)
Kingston 2x256MB PC2700
HEC 475W PSU -> one of the most neglected parts of an HTPC.. it must have enough amps to power your system.. not enough and it'll still run but it's like killing it slowly.
GeForce 4MX440  -> upgraded to Radeon 9800PRO (whole lot more power plus it's got DVI out)
Asus DVDrom 16x
Asus CDRW 52/24/52
40GB HD -> added another 120GB for all those movies and MP3s
displays: 1 17" monitor  -> changed to 21" NEC --> then finally a SAMSUNG ST61L2HX 61" DLP
display2: hard modded lcd in case

sound: right now it's currently using built-in soundstorm audio (optical cable to) logitech z680 THX certified 5.1 speakers.   might migrate to A/V receiver soon. ( got an old  pioneer VSX-D510 and 5.1 pioneer speakers... the z680s sound a whole lot better @ P18,600)

updates soon.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 06, 2004 at 08:21 AM
Zerone, really cool modz!!! by the way.. how did you connect your LCD to your video card? is it just by s-video? cause the LCD looks sharp! Cool. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 06, 2004 at 08:25 AM
Hi Eddie,

Yep the mobility radeon is better! :) (is it too obvious? I'm an ATI guy?)
Anyway here's my take on it though...

If you are focused on video applications like, watching DVDs, encoding and stuff like that.. ATI is the way to go... If you are more of a gamer and Video is 2nd priority then Nvidia is usually the option.... but watch out though for the new ATI x800... its the newest card from ATI and it kicked Nvidia's booty big time. In performance, power consumption, size... over all value compared to Nvidias latest and greatest.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: zerone_null on May 06, 2004 at 08:54 AM
thanks :) yup i just used svideo wire runs inside and exits from back,,then plugs into svideo :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 06, 2004 at 09:51 AM
Zerone, thats cool, how much did you get that LCD? I wanted to mod my case before exactly the same way.

By the way, you've got a kick ass HDTV right there man! HAYOP.. thats my dream TV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: zerone_null on May 06, 2004 at 11:32 AM
thankx bro,

oh the LCD i got for about P5600 from downtown chinese vendors :)

the HDTV yeah pretty sweet.. but i think i'll be on "thrift mode" again for a couple of months muna.   :'(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on May 07, 2004 at 05:07 PM
medyo OT...

jpadua - saw your site... where did you get your lcd display... the one mentioned in the guides section? and how much did the display set you back?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on May 08, 2004 at 12:00 AM
Here are latest addition on my HTPC  Winfast TV & the Character LCD display.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 08, 2004 at 08:49 AM
medyo OT...

jpadua - saw your site... where did you get your lcd display... the one mentioned in the guides section? and how much did the display set you back?

I got it from a company called Rastek, their office is in makati herrera corner valero, in front of starbucks (not chatham house) I forgot the floor, you could just ask the guard.  They have 16x2 and 20x4 LCD displays.  The 16x2 is about 1000 bucks while the 20x4 is about 2000, I'm not sure if they changed their prices though.

I forgot their website URL... do a search on pinoypc.com thats where I found them :)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on May 08, 2004 at 11:18 AM
Boss Rasteq is not selling anymore LCD eh. more on project kits na sila.
If Anyone interested with Character LCD display i Can sell you one but a little expensive din eh I have 2x16 & 4x20 . Just PM me if want to know the price.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 08, 2004 at 11:44 AM
Boss Rasteq is not selling anymore LCD eh. more on project kits na sila.
If Anyone interested with Character LCD display i Can sell you one but a little expensive din eh I have 2x16 & 4x20 . Just PM me if want to know the price.

ahh ganun ba? hehe, sabagay I bought my LCD from them almost a yr ago
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: zerone_null on May 08, 2004 at 01:15 PM
there are non-lit lcds in electronics shops...  about P250~P350 lang.. 4x20 same setup sa guide nya :) pretty nice.. if mahal na talaga price for just an 80-character lcd kit.. just buy a cheapo colored LCD tvs like i did.. and hook it up to your tv-out.  best bang for buck option..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 28, 2004 at 07:36 AM
Hi Jpadua. How are you?

I have a few questions about my video card if I may. I bought radeon 9600 se from sapphire and audigy ls sound card. My problem is when I installed Need for speed underground, the video is garbled as in many lines appear when I am playing. And the ati driver from time to time does not work saying the ati control panel did not initialize. I had to reinstall it each time it happened. Would you please help me to find out what's wrong?

My cpu is athlon 2000xp 256 ram just in case you need to know. Another one is I can't see any difference between my old inno 3d 440 geforce and the radeon. Could it be my setting? Now it is 1024x768 at 85 refresh. They look just the same for me.

Thank you very much for the time.

Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 28, 2004 at 08:57 AM
Hi Jpadua. How are you?

I have a few questions about my video card if I may. I bought radeon 9600 se from sapphire and audigy ls sound card. My problem is when I installed Need for speed underground, the video is garbled as in many lines appear when I am playing. And the ati driver from time to time does not work saying the ati control panel did not initialize. I had to reinstall it each time it happened. Would you please help me to find out what's wrong?

My cpu is athlon 2000xp 256 ram just in case you need to know. Another one is I can't see any difference between my old inno 3d 440 geforce and the radeon. Could it be my setting? Now it is 1024x768 at 85 refresh. They look just the same for me.

Thank you very much for the time.

Eddie

hmm, I cant really say much about the SE version, atually its not recommended by most, but anyway since you have it already, its still a good card for video.  The colors are supposed to be better especially when viewing DVDs.  You can also use interlaced resolutions if you are using an HDTV.  If you are using a monitor, you might see a slight difference lang.  ATI really shines when connected to an HDTV.

about your garbled video, what drivers are you using? have you downloaded the latest drivers?
Catalyst 4.50 is already out you can get that from the ATI website.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 29, 2004 at 01:26 AM
Thanks Jay. I am using it with my epson projector. I found out that the lines would disappear on dvd playback if I raised the refresh to 85 from 60. But with gaming, the lines remained. But I couldn't really see much difference with regards to dvd playback as against the inno 3d geforce. I pulled it out and plugged the inno in again to test and I still can 't say there is much difference. I have not downloaded catalyst yet. I am using what was included with the card. What could be the refresh for the game? My projector would only accept up to 85.

Hope you could still come up with a suggestion. Thanks again for the time.

Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 05, 2004 at 09:45 AM
hmm what resolution are you using for the game? every resolution set in the video settings has a certain refresh rate, what resolution are you using for DVD?... is your game and DVD set to the same resolution?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Jun 06, 2004 at 03:15 AM
Thanks for the reply Jay. I've tried many resolutions and used them on both the game and dvd playback. But now I fixed it at 1024x768 at 85 hz. Lowering the refresh to 60 at that res causes flickering too on dvd playback. I tried other games too and they also flicker. I would like to plug in my Nvidia and see what happens. But that's for later as I am starting to see a little differnce now with the radeon for dvd.

Ed
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 03, 2004 at 10:23 AM
Hi Ed, ano na balita sa setup mo? have you got it running already?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Jul 03, 2004 at 05:37 PM
jp, what do you think is the best HTPC player, PowerDVD or WinDVD?... what are you using right now?... are there any players that we can get for free?... Ang PowerDVD ko kasi (repackaged as AsusDVD XP) nag-due for registration na, so am now down to 2-channel with the S/PDIF connection to my receiver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Jul 04, 2004 at 01:34 AM
Hi Jay. Yes it is but still only with dvds. Can't play any games yet. I was hoping you would think of any solutions. Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Jul 04, 2004 at 01:34 AM
Hi Jay. Yes it is but still only with dvds. Can't play any games yet. I was hoping you would think of any solutions. Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 04, 2004 at 03:31 AM
Hey guys, don't mind kung sali ako sa discussion ninyo.

I'm just discovered this group PinoyDVD. I was born and raised sa Pinas pero ngayon ay medyo inuulan ng yelo sa Chicago pag winter.

I have made several posts in the "Audio-setting up" portion of the Forum.

I agree with the experts, like jpadua , of this column. A HTPC can be built that will beat even the best DVD players in the market. They can be amde to sound that will blow away some jaded audiophiles.

This is especially true if you are using a LCD. DLP.Plasma display with a DVI input. Keep the video digital until it hits your eye.

The HTPC I built has the following.

1.) Cooler Master Wave Case
2.) Asus P4C800-E Motherboard--875 Chipset, 800 FSB
3.) Pentium 4 Canterwood 3.2GHz
4.) 1 GB DDR-400 RAM
5.) ATI Radeon Pro 9800 128MB AGP Video Card
6.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card
7.) Dvico Fusion HDTV Gold Tuner Card- ATSC and QAM
8.) Extra IDE Controller Card
9.) Two 160GB (Each) Seagate S-ATA drives
10.) Two 250GB (Each) Seaget ATA-133 dirves
11.) Two 120GB (Each) Maxtor Gold ATA-133 drives
12.) Monarchy Audio Digital Interface Processor to clean up the SPDIF output of the Sound Card and reduces jitter error.

Why this much storage? I record and archive HD files and I actually run out quickly, until I edit  my recorded files.

I addition to the usual PC stuff, software include:

1.) Theatertek
2.) Powerstrip
3.) DVHS Tools



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 05, 2004 at 09:40 AM
Hi Andaleon, welcome to PinoyDVD.

You have one kick ass HTPC setup bro. Lucky for you, you have access to most if not all HTPC specific hardware there in Chicago... around here I really have to look hard, and kung wala talaga, order it from another country.

I have upgraded my setup as well so, just to give you an idea of what i'm running now.

1.) Arisetec Accent HT-400(S)HTPC case
2.) Enermax 350w PSU (might upgrade to Silverstone 400w 120mm fan PSU)
3.) MSI K7N2 Delta - ILSR Nforce2 Ultra 400
4.) Athlon XP 2500, OC' to 3200 @ 200fsb
5.) Artic VGA Silencer (to come in a few days)
6.) Gigabyte 3D Pro Cooler, 4-way Heatpipe CPU cooler.
7.) 512MB DDR-400 RAM Apacer
8.) ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB AGP Video Card
9.) Nforce2 MCP-T Soundstorm AC-3 Digital Encoder (sometimes I use my M-audio card)
10.) Pixelview Play TV 7000 Hardware MPEG-2 Encoder w TV Tuner

As for my hard drives, I have (2)40GB and (1)60GB, I'll be getting S-Ata drives next so I can store lots of video.

Software wise currently using.

Zoomplayer
WinDVD Codecs
Powerstrip
Showshifter
SageTV 2 (will upgrade to)

Andelion hope to see you posting a lot here soon! (hold on... kaw ba si DocVenson?)

jp
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 05, 2004 at 10:22 AM
jp, what do you think is the best HTPC player, PowerDVD or WinDVD?... what are you using right now?... are there any players that we can get for free?... Ang PowerDVD ko kasi (repackaged as AsusDVD XP) nag-due for registration na, so am now down to 2-channel with the S/PDIF connection to my receiver.

Hi Yukon, actually there are several depending on what you need.

If your connection to your Audio video reciever is via spdif, I would recommend, sonic decoders.

Players that use sonic decoders are:
Sonic Cineplayer
TheaterTek DVD

If you are using an analog soundcard, 5.1 6.1 or 7.1 (you are connected directly to powered speakers or are using a direct analog conneciton)
WinDVD Platinum with Audio Pack.

What I'm currently using is WinDVD Platinum.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 05, 2004 at 11:52 AM
My HTPC is my HD Tivo.

I posted this in the Audio Forum but I think this is the proper venue for this.

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THIS IS MY COLLECTION OF HIGH DEFINITION VIDEO FILES (Playable via a powerful Home Theater Computer-or can be trasferred to D-VHS).

Be cautioned though- these  eats up Hard Drive space like Pacman on Steriods!

Here is a sample of my collection:

PBS/Discovery-HD/Documentaries:

Discovery Channel - Alien Insect - Praying Mantis
Discovery Channel - Extreme Hawaii
Discovery Channel - Sacred India
Smart Travels - Paris

Sporting Events:

NBA playoff 2000 clips (San Antonio vs. Dallas)
NCAA basketball finals 2000 clips, Arizona vs. Duke
NCAA Basketball finals 2003, Syracuse vs. Kansas
NFL Superbowl 2002 - Raiders vs. Buccaneers
NFL Superbowl 2002 halftime show (Shania Twain, No Doubt, Sting)
NFL Superbowl XXXVIII 2003-2004 Season - Patriots vs. Panthers
Olympics: Womens Figure Skating Long Program
Olympics: Womens Figure Skating Short Program
Olympics: Opening Ceremony
Olympics: Closing Ceremony

Music/Concerts

Academy Awards 2003
Academy Awards 2004 (Billy Crystal host)
Britney Spears - In The Zone (November 2003 broadcast)
Grammy's 2003
Grammy's 2004

Specials / Miscellaneous/HDNET

Bikini Destinations - Acapulco
Bikini Destinations - Best Of
Bikini Destinations Bahamas
Bikini Destinations - California Dreamin'
Bikini Destinations - French Riviera
Bikini Destinations - Hawaii
Bikini Destinations - Las Vegas
Bikini Destinations - Lima, Peru
Bikini Destinations - On Location in Lake Powell
Bikini Destinations - South Beach
Bikini Destinations - Spring Break Cancun
Bikini Destinations - Venus Swimwear Calendar Shoot (Join top bikini models as they set sail on a series of adventures to exotic locales. Follow aspiring swimsuit models during the annual Venus Swimwear Calendar Shoot. )
Dallas Maverick Cheerleaders
HDNET: Over America
HDNET: Over Chicago
HDNET: Philadelphia
HDNET Wild Hawaii
Victoria's Secret Fashion Show

Tonight Show Musical Guests & Interviews

2-28-02 Grammy's red carpet interview
2003 Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover model
311 - Love Song
Alicia Keys
Allison Krause & Emmylou Harris
Allison Krause & Union Station
Alyssa Milano interview
Angelina Jolie interview for Tombraider 2
Anna Nicole Smith Interview
Annie Lennox - Into The West
Ashanti
Beyonce Knowles Interview
Beyonce Knowles - Fever
Blue Man Group w/Venus Hum - I Feel Love
Blue Man Group w/Gavin Rossdale - The Current
Britney Spears Interview
Britney Spears - Me Against The Music
Cameron Diaz Interview
Catherine Zeta Jones Interview
Celine Dion - Have You Ever Been In Love
Celine Dion 
Charlize Theron Interview
Charlotte Church
Cirque du Soleil-The Water Bowl
Cirque du Soleil
Clay Aiken
Crosby, Stills, & Nash (1st episode back after WTC terrorist attack)
Dave Matthews
Diana Krall- Narrow Daylight
Depeche Mode
Dido
Elton John
Elton John & Billy Joel (two songs)
Elton John - Circle of Life
Enrique Iglesias - Hero
Enrique Iglesias - Escape
Enya
Fleetwood Mac - Peacekeeper
Fleetwood Mac - Say You Will
Jennifer Aniston interview (Bruce Almighty)
Jessica Simpson
Jessica Simpson - Take My Breath Away
Jewel - Standing Still
Jewel - Break Me
Jewel - Intuition
Jewel - Stand
Joe Cocker
Josh Grobin
Josh Stone
Julia Roberts
KD Lang and Tony Bennett
Kylie Minogue
Lee Ann Rhymes
Mandy Moore - I've Got a Crush On You
Mandy Moore 
Marc Anthony - English song
Marc Anthony - Spanish song
Michelle Branch - All I Wanted Acoustic
Michelle Branch - Goodbye To You
Natalie Imbruglia
Nelly Furtado
Nelly Furtado - Powerless
Nicole Richie-Interview
Norah Jones - Don't Know Why
Norah Jones - Come Away With Me
Norah Jones - Sunrise
Pamela Anderson interview
Passion of Christ, The Choir
Phil Collins - No Way Out
Prince
Rebecca Romijin-Stamos Interview - The Punisher
Ricky Martin & Christina Aguilera
Shakira - Whenever, Wherever
Shakira - Underneath Your Clothes
Spring Break 2004
Tori Amos
Tori Amos - Taxi Ride
Tori Amos - Winter
Ramdy Travis
U2
Vanessa Carlton - 1000 Miles
Wilson Philiips
ZZ Top

Anthony Andaleon
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bayonic on Jul 05, 2004 at 12:01 PM
My HTPC is my HD Tivo.

I posted this in the Audio Forum but I think this is the proper venue for this.

--------------------------------------------------

THIS IS MY COLLECTION OF HIGH DEFINITION VIDEO FILES (Playable via a powerful Home Theater Computer-or can be trasferred to D-VHS).

Be cautioned though- these  eats up Hard Drive space like Pacman on Steriods!




hi, that's some collection you have there .... just wondering where can i get some of these on D-VHS...

i'm planning of getting the JVC 40000 ... i need sources aside from the D Theatre tapes to justify the purchase ...

tia
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 05, 2004 at 09:21 PM
Bayonic,

Tansferring to D-VHS is a time consuming process. It's done in real time. It is more efficient doing it via hard drives.

Caution though, HD transport streams are memory hogs. You can only fit five minutes of HD in a CD-ROM.

Everyone,

Has there been any Pinoy show or concert shot in HD?

Any plans to start broadcasting HD in Manila? 

Is the use of HDTV sets getting common?

Anthony

Here is what my HTPC feeds:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vhome&1085349192&read&3&4&

Some other pictures:

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XAD*At8cTzN5FGlJD0V3PlLf5bMM49qUSZmAmCSKLd36R8CR!RFho5gwvry7kOUlkJKtt*OVyouBoK4N5OTSbUUEkX0YZQDcmryOKce8Z5C6220mbNAa37*XpQ9woUoNjcfOHv7p3PU/DSC01659.JPG?dc=4675478578791671340)

Room darkened to pick up the image on the screen.

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XADlAtgcCTF5FGlJD0V3PodsLsPzV2ka00J*0AcV09fu*9gDtXEGwZZzttjJBQaz3Ct9RXKKuUvc4jq3q3aZoPEia*KINJ!J81!2JTwe*5uLKei5t!LiGDrebbsINxjGxJxARocMFS4/DSC01643.JPG?dc=4675478578787471817)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 07, 2004 at 10:03 AM
wow! what a set up.. Hehehe! you are using eggleston work speakers huh!!
Any way here's my new HTPC hardware.
I am currently using the Shuttle XPC 61G2 water cooled small sff PC with pentim 4 2.0 processor,NVdia FX 5200 128mb/128 bit,512mb ddr400, Sony DVD rom,80 gig hard drive,Leadtek winfast T.V. tuner & hook it up on NEC XG-135 LC CRT projector,& some yamaha receiver amp.

Software:

MyHTPC front end
J River Media Center
Powerstrip
WinDVD Platinum
Power DVD
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 07, 2004 at 10:23 AM
Meridian, nice!!! ok dumadami na ang HTPC cult natin sa pdvd! heheheh
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 07, 2004 at 11:11 AM
My HD Movie Listing:

NOT DVD- Full HD, NOT 480p but 1080i/720P

Mission Impossible
Mission Impossible 2
Monsters Ball
Monsters Inc
Moulin Rouge
Patriot, The
Professional (Leon), The
Pulp Fiction
Queen of the Damned
Raiders of the Lost Arc
Resident Evil
Road to Perdition
Rock, The - OAR
Saving Private Ryan
Shanghai Nights
Showtime
Shrek
Silence Of The Lambs
Spiderman
Star Trek - The Voyage Home
Star Trek - The Wrath of Khan
Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones
Starship Troopers
Stuart Little 2
Swordfish
Terminator 3
Thelma and Louise
Titanic
Toy Story 2
Unfaithful
Vertical Limit
What About Bob
What Women Want
Wild Side
Wild Things
Wrong turn
X-Men
X-Men 2
XXX

New additions

Ginger Snaps
Princess Bride
Okinawa's Coral Treasures
The Gift
Final Destination
There's Something About Mary
Frequency
Anna And The King
Predator
Stir of Echoes
Kill Bill Vol 1
Lara Croft - Tomb Raider


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 08, 2004 at 12:50 AM
jp,
Heheh.. Actually I was an HTPC user since 2001 coz I am connected to Listening in Style & video is my specialty since 1997. Pero d kmi nag concentrate gaano sa HTPC dhil marami kaming hawak na video scalers. Pero ako more on HTPC talaga.. Kaya kudos to all HTPC users...  ;D Kaya if u have some questions also about any video matters dont hesitate to pm me.. more power to pdvd members..

I also design hometheater acoustics & offer audio & Video calibration.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 08, 2004 at 02:53 AM
Meridian-Audio,

By your call sign, I presume you use a lot of  Meridian gear.

I used to have a 508-24 CD player.

Anthony
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Jul 08, 2004 at 03:57 PM
anthony,
On the average, how much storage space do each movie(s) consume? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 08, 2004 at 07:24 PM
Number1,

Each minute is 114 MBytes.

How long is the movie?

Anthony
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Jul 08, 2004 at 09:07 PM
Number1,

Each minute is 114 MBytes.

How long is the movie?

Anthony

Wow, you must have tons of storage space for all those movies. ;D  How are they encoded, Windows Media 9 or DIVX?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 09, 2004 at 12:23 AM
Meridian-Audio,

By your call sign, I presume you use a lot of  Meridian gear.

I used to have a 508-24 CD player.

Anthony

Sir,

Hehehe!! I use to tweak meridian-audio gears.

Egay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 09, 2004 at 12:22 PM
Number1,

The files are raw transport stream *.ts. Windows Media 9 is a lossy compresion scheme. DiVX is worse.

I use a lot InClose removable drive. I can slide in/take out a drive at will.

The movies are actually in backed up in D-VHS.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 09, 2004 at 03:48 PM
jp,
Heheh.. Actually I was an HTPC user since 2001 coz I am connected to Listening in Style & video is my specialty since 1997. Pero d kmi nag concentrate gaano sa HTPC dhil marami kaming hawak na video scalers. Pero ako more on HTPC talaga.. Kaya kudos to all HTPC users...  ;D Kaya if u have some questions also about any video matters dont hesitate to pm me.. more power to pdvd members..

I also design hometheater acoustics & offer audio & Video calibration.

tamang tama, while we are on that subject.  I just recently setup an HTPC and am trying to connect it via DVI... lumalabas lagi is 1280x480p and the colors are negative.
The display properties only show 1280x480 as the only selectable resolution.

To circumvent this, I have to boot into windows, using a monitor with the resolution set to 1280x720.  From there I enter the display panel then turn on a second monitor (where the TV is connected.. DVI port).  The RPTV displays 1280x720 with no color problems. 

As long as the DVI cable is connected to the TV, the HTPC will always boot 1280x480p and with negative colors.  If I leave the TV off during boot, then use the display properties to activate it.  It works ok.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 09, 2004 at 09:37 PM
I have seen this when I was setting up a HTPC with a Toshiba 65H83. I guess I did not heed the warning that most RPTV's DVI input is not really designed as a PC input.

The true heart of the problem is that these RPTV's don’t send an EDID to the graphics card, or if they do, it is does not specify that it is a digital display device. The DVI port is on until the  Windows driver is loaded (that’s why you can see the boot logo), but since the driver doesn’t get the correct message from the monitor, it shuts off the DVI port, or do weird things like what you see.

EDID is the plug and play information that the monitor sends to the graphics card to tell the OS what monitor is plugged in.

There is a cheater device called DVI Detective (www.dvigear.com) that stores the EDID in the EPROM. You graphics card would now see a constant EDID. That one costs around $65.00.

Now, you have to decide if it is really worth it. Most RPTV's are CRT variety and hence not a true digital display. (Good or bad-it is matter of debate-like the ongoing debate between CD and Vinyl- Tube or Solid State.) The use of DVI is not going to yield any performance advantage unless you are using a pixel based display - like DLP's, LCD, LCOS, plasma.

You maybe better of using a VGA-to-Component Transcoder.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 10, 2004 at 12:14 AM
jp,

anthony is right.
PC graphics card is OS or driver dependant unlike standalone DVD player with DVI output.
heres the link about EDIDhttp://www.webopedia.com/TERM/E/EDID.html

Meridian-audio
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 10, 2004 at 11:48 AM
Yeah, I sorta new that... part... I was just wondering if anyone here had a workaround which didnt require me to use DVI Detective or resort to a VGA to Component Transcoder.  These things arent available in the philippines.  I might go with DVI detective, since I'm goin to the US in a few weeks might be easier... or better yet just get an ATI Component Dongle... hmm I'll have to check if it is compatible with a radeon 9200.

If his Tosh, had VGA input... I wouldnt have this problem :) Setting up over VGA is so much simpler.

Jay

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 10, 2004 at 10:15 PM
I'll go the ATI Dongle, if I were you JP.

To build a EDID emulator, you need an EEPROM programmer, some EEPROMs and build its supporting circuitry, power supply, etc. If you consider this fun and as a challenge then it's worth it.

Here is the raw EDID of the Toshiba if you need it:

00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 52 62 00 01 EC CB 01 00
10: 19 0D 01 03 80 00 00 00 0E EE 91 A3 54 4C 99 26
20: 0F 50 54 20 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 1D 80 18 71 1C 16 20 58 2C
40: 25 00 00 00 00 00 00 9E 8C 0A D0 8A 20 E0 2D 10
50: 10 3E 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 FC 00 54
60: 6F 73 68 69 62 61 20 54 56 0A 20 20 00 00 00 FD
70: 00 3B 3D 1F 2E 08 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 25

From an economic standpoint however, the "economies of scale" are against it. You'd be much better off buying a DVI Detective.

My own experience though, go analog connection to the Tosh. DVI is not worth it. Or, like what Meridian said-go for a DVD player with a DVI output.

They started selling the Samsung HD841 here in the US. It's a

1.)DVI output DVD player-and
2.).SACD player-
3.)and DVD-Audio Player-too.
4.) Retail is $180.00.

This might just save you a lot of headache.

If you are coming close to Chicago. I'd like to invite you personally to my home. PM me.

Anthony
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 11, 2004 at 10:13 AM
Thanks Anthony for the tip, most likely will get the dongle since its the cheapest solution.  Not as Flexible as a direct VGA connection but as long as I can get good image on his Tosh I guess it will be just fine.

I'm goin to NY for 1 week then SF... I wish we had stop to chicago... my cousin lives there, and hell yeah sure I'd love to see your Wonderful Setup! (BOW AKO SA YO).

Ive already got a list of HTPC things to buy hehehe...

1. Wireless Keyboard with good range.. maybe the liteon Airboard.
2. Maybe a matrix orbital VFD
3. a Griffin Powermate USB multipurpose controller (for my Digital recording PC)
4. Maya44 4in 4out USB soundcard (for my Digital recording PC)
5. Ati Component Dongles (notice it's plural) I'm sure a lot of people might need it here.
6. Haupaugge PVR-250
7. IR-Man If I can find one..
8. If I have enough cash left maybe an ATI X800Pro! whoa! hehe but thats sorta bordering... ummm overkill.

Anthony anything you could recommend I bring back home?

BTW ATI dongles you can only buy online right?

JP
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 11, 2004 at 12:17 PM
JP,

Instead of the liteon Airboard, I highly recommend a Gyration Mouse/KYBD combo.

http://www.gyration.com/ultragt-compact.htm

It's a RF mouse that you can hold up in the air.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Jul 19, 2004 at 02:07 PM
jpadua and to other masters,

I am starting to build-up HTPC... I would like to ask your suggestions for the cheapest and most ideal video card for HTPC use.
My Philips TV has VGA input, progressive capability and supports 1080i sources.

very very limited bugdet only.... I mean limited, meron kayang maganda for 2K budget, hehehheheh...

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Jul 19, 2004 at 02:30 PM
jpadua and to other masters,

I am starting to build-up HTPC... I would like to ask your suggestions for the cheapest and most ideal video card for HTPC use.
My Philips TV has VGA input, progressive capability and supports 1080i sources.

very very limited bugdet only.... I mean limited, meron kayang maganda for 2K budget, hehehheheh...

Thanks in advance.

The Ge-cube 9550 extreme platinum seems really good since it uses the same core as the 9600XT but with a lower core speed and memory timings. For less than P6k, imho,  i think this is really worth getting. Or you could wait in the coming month or two for the Radeon 9250 chip to be released locally.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:15 PM
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/mrtech_1801_463412)

MSI MEGA 180 DIGITAL HOME ENTERTAINMENT BAREBONE PC SYSTEM

Features:

?Home Theater PC
- Create, Watch, Edit Rich Media Content in Your Living Room
- Surf the Web and Play Internet Games Wirelessly
- Instant on CD / Radio / MP3 support
?Bundled MSI Media Center Deluxe Software
?5.1ch Surround Sound
?Intelligent Color LCD Display
?Built-in WiFi
?6 in 1 Media Card Reader
?AMD Processor Support

Specifications:

System Features
?Supports Socket 462 for AMD?Duron?and Athlon?XP processors up to 3000+
?nVIDIA nForce2 (Crush 18G) + MCP2T Chipset
?Supports up to 2 DIMMs , 2.0GB DDR 333 memory
?Supports 1 x 8X AGP Slot
?Supports 1 x PCI 32 bit Slot


Audio Features
?Instant-ON CD / MP3 and Radio Features
?Support for 5.1ch Surround Sound Audio
?nVIDIA SoundStorm?Dolby?Digital (Needs Dolby Receiver)
?Dual Optical SPIDIF In / Out (Front / Rear)


Video Features
?Integrated nForce2 (8X AGP)
?Dual VGA out
?S-Video Out


Communication Features
?Wireless LAN 802.11B
?10/100Mbps LAN
?56K Modem


Front Panel Connectivity
?Optical SPIDIF in
?Mic-In
?Headphone Jack
?USB 2.0 x2
?IEEE 1394 Firewire x 2 (6 pin and 4 pin)
?6 in 1 Media Card Reader


Rear Panel Connectivity
?Dual VGA
?PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
?LAN Port (RJ-45)
?USB 2.0 x2
?Parallel Port
?S-Video
?Optical SPIDIF Out
?Speaker-out / Line-in / Mic ?in (5.1ch)
?56K Modem
?AGP Slot
?PCI Slot


TV Tuner Functions (Optional with MS-8606-040 MEGA TV Tuner Card)
?Free Scan
?Time-Shifting
?Scheduled Recording (MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4)
?Channel Preview
?Screen Capture
?Parental Control
?DVD / Photo / Video Authoring Software bundle


Software and Other Features
?Bundled MSI Media Center Deluxe III Software
?Microsoft PC 2001 Compliant
?Suspend to Ram/Disk Function
?Top Tech III (Thermal Overheat Protection Technology)
?PC Alert System Hardware Monitor
?250W(PFC 5V/12V SB) Full Range
?Dimensions: 202 (w) x 320 (d) x 151 (h) mm
 
Do we have this here already?  It is pegged at $300.00
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:51 PM
jpadua and to other masters,

I am starting to build-up HTPC... I would like to ask your suggestions for the cheapest and most ideal video card for HTPC use.
My Philips TV has VGA input, progressive capability and supports 1080i sources.

very very limited bugdet only.... I mean limited, meron kayang maganda for 2K budget, hehehheheh...

Thanks in advance.

Hi We have similar TV's except mine is a philips pixel plus.  But the VGA port is the same.
hmm well if your budget is really low... the best na cheapest would be to use an ATI9200.  Ive setup one already and works great with my philips VGA input.  Was able to output, 480p 540p 1080i, unfortunately at 2k wala kang mahanap... the 9200 would range from 3k-4k.

You can also probably try the 9200SE it should be the same in terms of Video/DVD performance (not gaming).
PowerColor ATI 9200SE 64DDR tv-dvi P 2,550.00  sa PCX.

VGA naman yung input mo so this is all you need pag super budget ka :) of course you need powerstrip to be able to output the correct timing frequencies for HDTV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:05 PM
Thanks a lot number1 and jpadua...

jpadua,
What is a powerstrip, ignorante ako...

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:41 PM
Thanks a lot number1 and jpadua...

jpadua,
What is a powerstrip, ignorante ako...

Thanks.

Oh oh sori di ko na explain... its a system utility that allows you to customize display output settings.  You need it especially if you want to create HDTV signals like 540p and 1080i.  Ang standard monitor resolutions kasi was meant for a computer monitor which is multiscan ang HDTV especially yung philips natin di multiscan so kelangan talaga yung timing frequency is the same as the ones it supports lang.  You can download it at www.entechtaiwan.com  Its trail ware.. it works naman even if you dont purchase, if you dont mind the nag screen... the longer you use it, the longer the nag screen stays on before powerstrip activates itself.  You can always re-install it to reset the duration time of the nagscreen pero hassle.  Once na setup mo na and you find it to be of real use to you, purchase mo nalang para at least entitled ka to free upgrades.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bayonic on Jul 19, 2004 at 05:13 PM
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/mrtech_1801_463412)

MSI MEGA 180 DIGITAL HOME ENTERTAINMENT BAREBONE PC SYSTEM

Features:

Software and Other Features
?Bundled MSI Media Center Deluxe III Software
?Microsoft PC 2001 Compliant
?Suspend to Ram/Disk Function
?Top Tech III (Thermal Overheat Protection Technology)
?PC Alert System Hardware Monitor
?250W(PFC 5V/12V SB) Full Range
?Dimensions: 202 (w) x 320 (d) x 151 (h) mm
 
Do we have this here already?  It is pegged at $300.00

what's included with the $ 300 price ???
a complete box < no monitor , no keyboard > goes for around 6K hongkong dollars ...

included is a 3.0 GHz Pentium , 512 MB RAM , Combo Drive  ...
i believe the display card is onboard ... so basically all you need to add is a Monitor.


cheers
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Jul 19, 2004 at 06:40 PM


Oh oh sori di ko na explain... its a system utility that allows you to customize display output settings.  You need it especially if you want to create HDTV signals like 540p and 1080i.  Ang standard monitor resolutions kasi was meant for a computer monitor which is multiscan ang HDTV especially yung philips natin di multiscan so kelangan talaga yung timing frequency is the same as the ones it supports lang.  You can download it at www.entechtaiwan.com  Its trail ware.. it works naman even if you dont purchase, if you dont mind the nag screen... the longer you use it, the longer the nag screen stays on before powerstrip activates itself.  You can always re-install it to reset the duration time of the nagscreen pero hassle.  Once na setup mo na and you find it to be of real use to you, purchase mo nalang para at least entitled ka to free upgrades.

Thanks a lot.... more questions to come...  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 21, 2004 at 09:09 AM
If might you might have missed it, this is how my HTPC case looks like.
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/casecover.jpg)

I prefer building it from scratch than getting a barebone PC... where's the fun in that! hehehe just kidding the MSI looks promising without the hassle of all the hardware setup.  Nice LCD display too.

You can also checkout other pics here.
http://jaypadua.fotopic.net
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 22, 2004 at 11:08 AM
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/mrtech_1801_463412)

MSI MEGA 180 DIGITAL HOME ENTERTAINMENT BAREBONE PC SYSTEM

Features:

?Home Theater PC
- Create, Watch, Edit Rich Media Content in Your Living Room
- Surf the Web and Play Internet Games Wirelessly
- Instant on CD / Radio / MP3 support
?Bundled MSI Media Center Deluxe Software
?5.1ch Surround Sound
?Intelligent Color LCD Display
?Built-in WiFi
?6 in 1 Media Card Reader
?AMD Processor Support

Specifications:

System Features
?Supports Socket 462 for AMD?Duron?and Athlon?XP processors up to 3000+
?nVIDIA nForce2 (Crush 18G) + MCP2T Chipset
?Supports up to 2 DIMMs , 2.0GB DDR 333 memory
?Supports 1 x 8X AGP Slot
?Supports 1 x PCI 32 bit Slot


Audio Features
?Instant-ON CD / MP3 and Radio Features
?Support for 5.1ch Surround Sound Audio
?nVIDIA SoundStorm?Dolby?Digital (Needs Dolby Receiver)
?Dual Optical SPIDIF In / Out (Front / Rear)


Video Features
?Integrated nForce2 (8X AGP)
?Dual VGA out
?S-Video Out


Communication Features
?Wireless LAN 802.11B
?10/100Mbps LAN
?56K Modem


Front Panel Connectivity
?Optical SPIDIF in
?Mic-In
?Headphone Jack
?USB 2.0 x2
?IEEE 1394 Firewire x 2 (6 pin and 4 pin)
?6 in 1 Media Card Reader


Rear Panel Connectivity
?Dual VGA
?PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
?LAN Port (RJ-45)
?USB 2.0 x2
?Parallel Port
?S-Video
?Optical SPIDIF Out
?Speaker-out / Line-in / Mic ?in (5.1ch)
?56K Modem
?AGP Slot
?PCI Slot


TV Tuner Functions (Optional with MS-8606-040 MEGA TV Tuner Card)
?Free Scan
?Time-Shifting
?Scheduled Recording (MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4)
?Channel Preview
?Screen Capture
?Parental Control
?DVD / Photo / Video Authoring Software bundle


Software and Other Features
?Bundled MSI Media Center Deluxe III Software
?Microsoft PC 2001 Compliant
?Suspend to Ram/Disk Function
?Top Tech III (Thermal Overheat Protection Technology)
?PC Alert System Hardware Monitor
?250W(PFC 5V/12V SB) Full Range
?Dimensions: 202 (w) x 320 (d) x 151 (h) mm
 
Do we have this here already?  It is pegged at $300.00

its already available locally but the price is to high. Price is around 20k+ w/o processor & RAM included.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bayonic on Jul 23, 2004 at 12:04 AM
... kagandahan nito , madaling ipuslit sa NAIA customs ..... hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 23, 2004 at 02:58 PM
Hi!  My soundcard is a REALTEK ALC655.  One of the features that it has is that it has S/PDIF output.  In my limited understanding, with S/PDIF it can output digital signals such that I can attach the output of the soundcard to the coaxial digital input of my receiver so I can achieve surround sound using my receivers' DD/DTS decoders?  Can I do this?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jul 23, 2004 at 08:19 PM
nirvblakr,

That's exactly what's it for!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 24, 2004 at 05:10 AM
thanks!  Gastos na naman! :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 25, 2004 at 10:43 PM
Hi!  My soundcard is a REALTEK ALC655.  One of the features that it has is that it has S/PDIF output.  In my limited understanding, with S/PDIF it can output digital signals such that I can attach the output of the soundcard to the coaxial digital input of my receiver so I can achieve surround sound using my receivers' DD/DTS decoders?  Can I do this?


nirvblakr,

Sure you can do it.. All you need to do is to buy 75 ohms coaxial digital cable. Or just use an ordinary RCA interconnect cable for the mean time in order to test it..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 25, 2004 at 11:30 PM
Meridian-Audio-  Thanks pre!  This is getting more exciting and expensive ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bayonic on Jul 26, 2004 at 12:20 PM
hey JayPadua et al.


 can you please give an estimate on how much a similar system would cost if purchased in Manila ?

Shuttle SFF case
3.8 GHz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading
1 GB RAM
160 GB HD
on board VideoAdapter
on board SoundCard with optical out


rough estimate lang .


thanks in advance

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: getafix on Jul 27, 2004 at 10:13 AM
bayonic - you could try logging in to  www.pcx.com.ph and/or www.villman.com for current prices of the above mentioned components
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: FaFa_RoLaNd on Jul 28, 2004 at 03:54 PM
hey JayPadua et al.


 can you please give an estimate on how much a similar system would cost if purchased in Manila ?

Shuttle SFF case
3.8 GHz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading
1 GB RAM
160 GB HD
on board VideoAdapter
on board SoundCard with optical out


rough estimate lang .


thanks in advance



SFF = 18k
3Ghz+ = 25k
1 GB ram = 20k
160GB = 7k
XPC SFF comes with onboard video and sound card.

But with the specs that u hav in mind kakatawa naman onboard video and sound ang gusto mo. teehee...

ati x800 = 24k
audigy zs = 6.2k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bayonic on Jul 28, 2004 at 08:14 PM


SFF = 18k
3Ghz+ = 25k
1 GB ram = 20k
160GB = 7k
XPC SFF comes with onboard video and sound card.

But with the specs that u hav in mind kakatawa naman onboard video and sound ang gusto mo. teehee...

ati x800 = 24k
audigy zs = 6.2k

thanks for the prices ...
this will purely be a media center htpc ... probably use it as an mp3 server ( AirTunes ) and  to drive a flat panel display that can only go to 1024X768 resolution .

the one i;m looking at is a Shuttle Media Center PC ... 


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: FaFa_RoLaNd on Jul 29, 2004 at 01:32 AM
if wana order Shuttle XPC media center SFF you might wanna give Miko of pinoypc.net a call or PM for orders and pricing. He is the exclusive distro of shuttle hir in RP. Got my XPC from him.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 24, 2004 at 05:09 AM
Hi!  I have a Fujitsu Biblo notebook with S-video TV out.  Is there a certain resolution that I have to lower in the display settings so I can view the display on TV?

I tried attaching the computer via S-video cable to my Samsung Tantus and pushed the S-video button on the keyboard but no display was on the tv.  Help needed......
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 24, 2004 at 05:12 AM
Hi!  I have a Fujitsu Biblo notebook with S-video TV out.  Is there a certain resolution that I have to lower in the display settings so I can view the display on TV?

I tried attaching the computer via S-video cable to my Samsung Tantus, changed the display to 640 x 480 and pushed the S-video button on the keyboard there was a flicker but no display was on the tv.  Help needed......
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 24, 2004 at 08:22 AM
Hi!  I have a Fujitsu Biblo notebook with S-video TV out.  Is there a certain resolution that I have to lower in the display settings so I can view the display on TV?

I tried attaching the computer via S-video cable to my Samsung Tantus, changed the display to 640 x 480 and pushed the S-video button on the keyboard there was a flicker but no display was on the tv.  Help needed......

Try checking the display properties advanced setting.  I had a similar problem before with my ASUS notebook.  It turns out, before the s-video button worked I had to set the dual monitor properties first if its single monitor, clone or extend... something like that.  try to fiddle around with your settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Aug 24, 2004 at 02:38 PM
New HTPC configuration:

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 Platinum PCI Express Video Card DVI Out
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 250 GB Each EIDE Drives,
6.) 1 GB DDR500 RAM,
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Wave Case
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 24, 2004 at 04:31 PM
New HTPC configuration:

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 Platinum PCI Express Video Card DVI Out
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 250 GB Each EIDE Drives,
6.) 1 GB DDR500 RAM,
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Wave Case


Wow... what a kick ass setup man! haaay the disadvantages of living in a 3rd world country.... :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Aug 24, 2004 at 10:24 PM
Jpadua,

I do a lot of video editing, most in Hi Def, so I need the horsepower.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dni on Aug 27, 2004 at 10:27 AM
W :oW!!!  ang tindi nito!!!   :o :o


New HTPC configuration:

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 Platinum PCI Express Video Card DVI Out
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 250 GB Each EIDE Drives,
6.) 1 GB DDR500 RAM,
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Wave Case

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 28, 2004 at 05:16 AM
jpadua- I'll check the settings of my notebook.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 08, 2004 at 01:46 PM
Hey this new product just came out, its a Cresendo Component output card.  This would be perfect if your HDTV only had component inputs.  I wonder how we can get one of these... 

(http://www.crescendo-systems.com/images/tcp2200_small.jpg)

The Crescendo-Systems TCP2200 is the addition to the transcoder line developed in the AVSForum. On top of the functionality present in the TC2000, the new TCP2200 adds support for tri-level sync and a fixed width bi-level sync. The PCI interface only draws power from the computer and therefore requires no drivers or additional software. The TCP2200 is a transcoder and the VGA connector is an input not an output. The TCP2200 is one of the few transcoders that has a separate color conversion for 480p and 720p/1080i in order to provide optimum color fidelity. Although the required conversions are nearly identical, the difference cannot be ignored when optimum quality is pursued.

here's a link to their website
http://www.crescendo-systems.com

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Sep 10, 2004 at 03:13 AM
Are all those movies on your HDD? My goodness how did you manage to get them all to fit on just half a terrabyte? :)

I wonder if JP took my advice concerning how to get HD content. ;)

My HD Movie Listing:

NOT DVD- Full HD, NOT 480p but 1080i/720P

Mission Impossible
Mission Impossible 2
Monsters Ball
Monsters Inc
Moulin Rouge
Patriot, The
Professional (Leon), The
Pulp Fiction
Queen of the d**ned
Raiders of the Lost Arc
Resident Evil
Road to Perdition
Rock, The - OAR
Saving Private Ryan
Shanghai Nights
Showtime
Shrek
Silence Of The Lambs
Spiderman
Star Trek - The Voyage Home
Star Trek - The Wrath of Khan
Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones
Starship Troopers
Stuart Little 2
Swordfish
Terminator 3
Thelma and Louise
Titanic
Toy Story 2
Unfaithful
Vertical Limit
What About Bob
What Women Want
Wild Side
Wild Things
Wrong turn
X-Men
X-Men 2
XXX

New additions

Ginger Snaps
Princess Bride
Okinawa's Coral Treasures
The Gift
Final Destination
There's Something About Mary
Frequency
Anna And The King
Predator
Stir of Echoes
Kill Bill Vol 1
Lara Croft - Tomb Raider



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 10, 2004 at 04:37 AM
I use removable drives in drive trays.

For example:

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=404307

I can swap drives as easily as one would load/unload DVD's.

The drives I've mentioned are the ones in permanent residence in my HTPC.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 10, 2004 at 09:41 AM
I wonder if JP took my advice concerning how to get HD content. ;)

hey! musta ... what advice?  I dont remember na! hhehe refresh my memory. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Sep 10, 2004 at 02:07 PM
andaleon: that explains alot and my mistake. I thought you only had two quarter terrabyte storage. Now I see that you in fact have a terrabyte. Is all the storage dedicated to HD content?

jpadua: I shall PM you the advice. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 10, 2004 at 07:25 PM
Yes-all HD.

You get spolied.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Sep 18, 2004 at 10:16 AM
Hello,

sorry for my ignorance. But how is a high definition editing done? what resolution? is it available in premiere pro? kelangan ba yun camera is 3ccd? or a normal home video camera will do? like sony camera with 0.6 ccd? Kindly explain naman dyan, at kung san yun ina-apply yun high-definition video editing. In details po sana, para sa mga nde din nakaka alam.

Salamat.
Onie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Sep 18, 2004 at 02:48 PM
You use a NLE suite that can accommodate HD content. The most commonly used resolutions at 1920x1080 interlaced and 1280x720 progressive or interlaced. Adobe has a HD primer that you can read here (PDF file) (http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/pdfs/hdprimer.pdf). The Cheapest HD DV camera you can find has a starting price of US$3,000-4,000 by the end of this year.

Some local advertisement houses are already doing work on HD for experience and archival purposes. These very same houses use the Apple platform (PowerMac G5, FinalCut Pro, SCSI RAID) for their work. Eventually the Philippines will have HD content but as to how or when it'll be delivered is a matter a of some debate. I expect it to arrive here 5-10 years from now. This would only be accelerated when the killer app that'll make HDTV the new defacto standard big here would be HD-DVD or Blu-ray disc players.

I expect a lot of poor people to complain that HDTV is anti-poor.   ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 18, 2004 at 06:48 PM
DViant is right.

There are only consumer models of HD camcoder presently in the market:

1.) JVC GR-HD1 - the standard version. ($3500 official retail)
2.) JVC JY-HD10- the pro version of the above. ($4000 official retail)

These are identical cameras minus a few tweaks for the pro version. They are both 1280 X 720 Progressive with 1 CCD at 1.18 Megapixel. I have the JY-HD10.

Sony is comng out very, very soon with

3.) Sony HDR-FX1 ($3700 retail)

The Sony is 3 CCD Device at 1440 X 1080 Interlaced resolution
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 18, 2004 at 07:40 PM
The JVC JY-HD10 (and the GR-HD1) both come with a bundled software.

Included is the MPEG Edit Pro LE 1.2 which is feaure-reduced version of KDDI's (of Japan)$4,800 MPEG Edit Pro. It is not an easy program to use but once you get the hang of it. It is very, very powerful Non Linear Editing (NLE) software.

Just like DVD's HD is also an MPEG stream but the camcorder’s HDV acquisition format presents some unique problems for post-production.

DVDs use MPEG-2-encoded video that has been encapsulated into a program stream. A program stream is generated from one (or more) audio plus one (or more) video elementary streams.

An audio elementary stream for a DVD can be 16-bit, 48kHz PCM; AC-3 (Dolby Digital); or DTS Surround Sound. A DVD can have one or more types of soundtracks. Of course, it can also have multiple audio tracks as on a multilingual DVD. A DVD's video elementary stream is encoded as MPEG-2. If the DVD offers multiple angles, each angle is a unique MPEG-2 stream.

A program stream generator takes elementary streams and weaves them together in a single stream. Once this stream is assembled, it can be burned to a DVD. To play back a DVD, software or hardware examines the data stream to find the audio and video streams. A header identifies every stream's type.


Now, here is where the HD differs from DVD.

The HDV format has two elementary streams. The total data bandwidth is 19Mbps for 720p and 25Mbps for 1080i. A camcorder's 16-bit, 48kHz audio is encoded as MPEG-1, Layer 2. The stereo channels have a combined data rate of 384kbps. On disk, this type of stream should have an .mp2 file extension. Video is encoded, of course, using MPEG-2. More specifically, for both SD (480p) and HD (720p), JVC's HD10 uses a closed, IBBP, six-frame GOP. The video data rate is 17.8Mbps using constant bit rate (CBR) encoding. On disk, it should have an .m2v file extension.

These two elementary streams are woven into a single stream. For HDV, however, the stream is a transport stream — not a program stream. Simply put, a transport stream carries additional information that enables its cargo of video and audio data to withstand corrupting transmission conditions. On disk, this type of stream should have a .m2t file extension, but typically will have an .mpg extension.

The software and hardware that process a program stream cannot process a transport stream. This is the crux of the difficulty in playing, editing, and generating HDV.This is why ordinary MPEG-2 software on your computer can not handle a transport stream.

To edit HDV material, a transport stream must be “demuxed” into audio and video elementary streams. This can be accomplished using a separate utility — or the capability could be built into an NLE. NLEs that can accept a transport stream include MPEG Edit Studio Pro 1.2 LE and Vegas 4.0. While neither Adobe Premiere 6.5 nor Premiere Pro can import MPEG-2 transport streams, they can import Wavelet-compressed files from Aspect HD.

MPEG Edit Studio Pro 1.2 LE supports two A/V tracks. Each track has a video and channel. Imported HDV clips fill both channels in a track. Simple transitions (dissolves and wipes) can be placed between video channels. Video inserts into a channel can also be performed. Simple titles can be placed in a video channel as well.




Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 18, 2004 at 09:07 PM
What is nice about MPEG Edit Pro is that you can downconvert HD footages to DVD.

The result of video from a HD master  just shines!!!!

It is even better than DVD's taken from the industry favorite Canon XL1S. The XL1S which is a true pro 3 CCD device

(http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/large_images/339/90136339.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Sep 18, 2004 at 09:53 PM
Naturally I am right. Thanks for mentioning my DV cam. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 20, 2004 at 12:29 AM
Great camera! Options galore!

I used to have one.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Sep 20, 2004 at 12:31 AM
Thought of selling it for a XL2 but thought better.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Sep 20, 2004 at 09:47 PM
HUHM? ..... Thanks for a very good explanation. Grabe pala ang hd editing. huhm, tsaka yun mga cameras, yun talagang mga top of the line. if im not mistaken, XL1's was used by george lucas. To buy a camera like this, is surely a good investment. Just want to ask, if is worth it? considering ofcourse that you are enjoying shooting and editing. btw, i am only targetting to buy a canon optura 400. Thats only how far can my budget go. =) For now, hoping i will be succesful editors like you are...

Thanks for the very warm reply.
ciao=)
onie.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Sep 20, 2004 at 10:24 PM
Dont worry the price will go down once it becomes mainstream in the year 2020.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 20, 2004 at 10:47 PM
With Sony's entry into the HD Camcoder world, competition should start to drive the prices down.

I've seen the GR-HD1 for as low as $1700.00 (retail is $3500).

More software developers should get into the play also as soon as HD become mainstream. CCD chips should start dropping also as any microchip. I doubt it will take as long as 2020 (at least here in the US and Japan).

Canon is a member of the HDV consortium and they should have a HD Cam ready for least CES (Consumer Electronic Show) in Las Vegas in January. Or, as early as October for the Videomakers convention in October in New Jersey.

Everybody is waiting for others to come out with their HD Camcoder. It should get interesting when that happens. We're all waiting for a progressive scan at 24 fps on these cameras. 24 fps is one of the major features of the new Canon XL2.

At least in HD Cam world, there is only one standard (like the DVD). It's unlike the HD DVD which has three major proposed standards, that's why it slow to take off.

US is suppose to switch to all digital TV broadcast by 2007.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 20, 2004 at 10:53 PM
Picture of the Sony HD Cam

(http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/upload/sony-hdr-fx1-big-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on Sep 20, 2004 at 11:15 PM
if you want the best possible way to record your family vacation videos that's the cam to get. SD will become passe when your kids are your age. everyone will be on hdtv!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: elmers on Sep 21, 2004 at 03:52 AM
if you want the best possible way to record your family vacation videos that's the cam to get. SD will become passe when your kids are your age. everyone will be on hdtv!

very nice camera indeed.. but when on vacations... esp out of town or abroad, the size is a major factor. - the smaller the better. =)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Sep 21, 2004 at 06:10 AM
wow... salamat ulet for the very warm replies. it so nice, that we have a contrast ideas here... One more last Q?
is it worth it, waiting, (ipon for a HDcam?) or buying such a canon optura 400. My main reason for now is, baka i cannot maximize the full features of an expensive camera, coz i didnt start with a basic one. Or is it advisable to own a camera such as canon optura 400 for a beginners like me? i read all the features of this cam, also the optura 300, and for my own opinion, its on top of its class, compare sa mga kasabayan nya.

Another question, i tried going over the pdf file linked by Dviant <thanks man>. Huhm, gives me an idea on how it is done. the process is different. Just want to clear things in my head. HD, can be put in a dvd right? iba nga lang yun process nya right? the pic quality is very noticeable compare to SD's. Does that necessarily means, when i create an HD project, does that mean, i have to own a HDTV? or it can be played on a normal flat tv, and at the same time, HDTV? parang progressive scanning, pwede sa normal tv, and HDTV...

sir jpadua, pa censya, it becames a little bit of the topic.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bayonic on Sep 21, 2004 at 07:52 AM
if you want the best possible way to record your family vacation videos that's the cam to get. SD will become passe when your kids are your age. everyone will be on hdtv!

i agree . once you've seen the difference in the final picture quality , you wouldn't mind lugging the extra weight and bulk.

question for Andaleon :

1. does the JVC GR HD-1 uses ordinary mini-DV tapes ?
2. if I have the JVC HD VHS , can I record straight from the JVC GR-HD1 to HD VHS ? ( no editing , purely for backup / archiving )
3. How does the PQ of the JVC HG HD-1 compare with the Sony , ie 1CCD vs 3CCD
4. where can you get the JVC GR-HD1 for 1700 USD ?


thanks for this slightly OT thread and thanks for the replies in advance

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Sep 21, 2004 at 10:50 AM
To answer Bayonic:

Yes, the JVC GR-HD1, the JY-HD10, and the Sony HDR-FX1 all use mini-DV tapes. The firewire outputs can de directly connectec to D-VHS for HD archiving (although I edit mine first).

The Sony 3 CCD model is not shipping yet so I can't compare.

In a Videomaker magazine here is the US, there was an ad for that GR-HD1 for $1700. Now, I have to look for that magazine.

To answer boss_onie:

Yes, HD footage can be downconverted to DVD. Once you have it in DVD you can do mass distribution. There are definitely more DVD players out there than D-VHS and HTPC powerful enough to decode HD.

I think most ED tv's can take a HD feed but of course won't display it in HD. I've seen 1080i feeds on some extended definition plasma's and the picture indeed is much better than Standard feed.

As far as your dilemna is concerned whether to get Optura 400 now or save for HD Cam. I personally would wait for HD Cam.

You invest on the Optura 400 now, it would be worthless to sell (so depreciated) when HD hits mainstream.

But at the same time, if HD is  really out-of-reach, get a SD cam . I don't know your personal situation. Get your feet wet in the world of DV editing and DVD authoring.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Sep 21, 2004 at 08:47 PM
wow. very nice reply sir andaleon.  especially your last words. i will send you a pm sir andaleon.

thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Oct 02, 2004 at 06:03 AM
I recently setup my own HTPC using Microsoft Windows Media Center (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/tours/default.mspx). i bought a Shuttle SB61G2R(20th Anniversary Edition) (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=56-101-417&DEPA=0), installed a P4 2.8Ghz with HT on it and 512MB RAM and a 200GB SATA Drive.I have a ATI 9800 Pro and Hauppauge PVR250MCE TV card

Sa ngayon, its my primary recorder of TV shows(I have TiVo pero ang hirap mag extract ng recorded videos, I'm not a big linux user kasi kaya nangangapang madalas sa mga shell commands).Sa Sony 27" CRT ko lang sya naka connect since yung Tosh 46" HD RPTV ko wont accept PC video signals thru DVI

anyways, I got hooked into using Microsoft Windows MCE and planning to upgrade soon since may HD support na sya.Planning to get this case, Ahanix (http://www.ahanix.com/dvine6sq.html), a VBox HD Tuner (http://www.vboxcomm.com/product3.htm) and dump my Tosh RPTV to either a Samsung DLP or Sony LCD.

nagsimula sa pagbuo ng computer, nagtuloy tuloy ang gastos.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Oct 02, 2004 at 07:02 AM
I recently setup my own HTPC using Microsoft Windows Media Center (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/tours/default.mspx). i bought a Shuttle SB61G2R(20th Anniversary Edition) (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=56-101-417&DEPA=0), installed a P4 2.8Ghz with HT on it and 512MB RAM and a 200GB SATA Drive.I have a ATI 9800 Pro and Hauppauge PVR250MCE TV card

Sa ngayon, its my primary recorder of TV shows(I have TiVo pero ang hirap mag extract ng recorded videos, I'm not a big linux user kasi kaya nangangapang madalas sa mga shell commands).Sa Sony 27" CRT ko lang sya naka connect since yung Tosh 46" HD RPTV ko wont accept PC video signals thru DVI

anyways, I got hooked into using Microsoft Windows MCE and planning to upgrade soon since may HD support na sya.Planning to get this case, Ahanix (http://www.ahanix.com/dvine6sq.html), a VBox HD Tuner (http://www.vboxcomm.com/product3.htm) and dump my Tosh RPTV to either a Samsung DLP or Sony LCD.

nagsimula sa pagbuo ng computer, nagtuloy tuloy ang gastos.  :'( :'(

Okay lang yang master GM... ahem green buck earner ka naman eh ! hehehe... btw, yung Samsung DLP sulit... the 2nd generation available sa Best Buy looks great too but definitely yung LCD... whether Sony or Samsung is much better... though a little bit more expensive depending on size...  would be nice how to see your set-up now... the TSS1 that i inherited from you is well used on my son's xbox naman...

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Oct 02, 2004 at 08:49 AM
 :D nice to hear na working pa rin yung TSS..

6 months pa nga lang mahigit yung rptv ko :)  pero pag napapayag ko si misis, baka palitan ko, before Christmas siguro.. 
post ako ng HTPC setup ko pero pag nakuha ko na siguro ung Ahanix case..




Okay lang yang master GM... ahem green buck earner ka naman eh ! hehehe... btw, yung Samsung DLP sulit... the 2nd generation available sa Best Buy looks great too but definitely yung LCD... whether Sony or Samsung is much better... though a little bit more expensive depending on size...  would be nice how to see your set-up now... the TSS1 that i inherited from you is well used on my son's xbox naman...

-jackryan 8)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Oct 02, 2004 at 10:13 AM
Jackryan, nagbaba yung price ng Samsung DLP... yung dating 60" DLP rptv na dating 250k ay 199k nalang.. sayang ubos na yung mga 50" that would have gone down din sana to a more affordable price... 199k is still toooooooo much for me :D I want one waaaah I think its just really great with HTPCs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Oct 02, 2004 at 10:54 AM
Jackryan, nagbaba yung price ng Samsung DLP... yung dating 60" DLP rptv na dating 250k ay 199k nalang.. sayang ubos na yung mga 50" that would have gone down din sana to a more affordable price... 199k is still toooooooo much for me :D I want one waaaah I think its just really great with HTPCs.

wow... i think they are disposing old stocks since newer models has come out of the market...  oks na rin... originally intended to get the higher model but i would have run out of space to put the rack for the peripherals... at that time i was given a discount of php 235k lang... ok na rin...

hey... dont forget, i got convinced to get the philips pixel 34" due to to your testamonials... hahaha... but you're right the 720p and 1080i mode of the Samsung DLP particularly when used with an XBOX is soo great !!!

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Oct 04, 2004 at 01:04 AM
Need GAMING Advice:

A PC store saleman suggested that I should try PC Gaming with a rig like mine.

I have been doing a lot of video editing and Hi Def Archiving but have not looked at what seems to an exciting world of PC Gaming. Maybe I just did not have the time.

I am a newbie when it comes to Gaming.

I asked a couple of friends and I'll ask you guys:

What do you recommend? What gear?

I have always like Flying, so maybe I should start with a Flight Simulator. Any suggestions?

Few changes I made to my HTPC :

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache-Overclocked to 3.9 Ghz
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 XT Platinum PCI Express-16 Video Card-OVERCLOCKED
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 34 GB Each RAPTOR Drives (10,000 RPM, SATA) for OS and Program Files RAID 0 Array
6.) 1 GB DDR2 PC2-4300 RAM Overclocked to 600 Mhz
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Stacker Case with Crossflow fan

(http://www.coolermaster.com/product_common_images/16fe07d26de5c6a4c2d13bf4493fd8b2.jpg)

12.) Two 550W Antec True Power Power Supplies
13.) Two Antec Hard Drive coolers
14.) Two Removable 250 GB EIDE Drives-
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Oct 04, 2004 at 08:47 AM
Need GAMING Advice:

A PC store saleman suggested that I should try PC Gaming with a rig like mine.

I have been doing a lot of video editing and Hi Def Archiving but have not looked at what seems to an exciting world of PC Gaming. Maybe I just did not have the time.

I am a newbie when it comes to Gaming.

I asked a couple of friends and I'll ask you guys:

What do you recommend? What gear?

I have always like Flying, so maybe I should start with a Flight Simulator. Any suggestions?

Few changes I made to my HTPC :

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache-Overclocked to 3.9 Ghz
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 XT Platinum PCI Express-16 Video Card-OVERCLOCKED
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 34 GB Each RAPTOR Drives (10,000 RPM, SATA) for OS and Program Files RAID 0 Array
6.) 1 GB DDR2 PC2-4300 RAM Overclocked to 600 Mhz
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Stacker Case with Crossflow fan

(http://www.coolermaster.com/product_common_images/16fe07d26de5c6a4c2d13bf4493fd8b2.jpg)

12.) Two 550W Antec True Power Power Supplies
13.) Two Antec Hard Drive coolers
14.) Two Removable 250 GB EIDE Drives-


Andaleon,

Wow, you know your PC specs always make me drool! :)  and yeah the your machine is top notch especially for gaming! you will get very smooth framerates and almost realistic graphics.

And yes, with a powerfull HTPC system like yours and plus the fact that you are hooked up to a projector, simulations would be really immersive, especially if you have a force feedback controller (flight stick, or a steering wheel)

Man I'm so addicted to this new game... It's called Richard Burns Rally... its the most realistic rally driving simulator, I'm using it with a Momo Racing Force Feedback wheel and I can say that its really immersive compared other driving games out there.  The physics engine is so realistic that the correct pressure on the gas and brake pedals, will make or break a great corner.  Also the Force feedback wheel really translate the road to your hands, you can feel the bumps and pot holes on the road, and last but not the least, the graphics are simply stunning, when watching the replays, it really looks like watching a real rally on TV its awesome.  Playing this game with a game pad wont make it enjoyable since the game is very difficult and the force feedback effects and using a wheel and pedals are important in the game.

With your system, You could run Richard burns at 1280x1024 in 32bit color, 6x anti-aliasing, and with all the graphical eye candy turned on at very high framerates...Play it on a projector, HOLY **** that would be the best sim experience.

Here's a screen shot, this pic wont do it Justice, you have to see it running at 60frames per second at high resolution... wow.
(http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/RBR/screenshots/17.jpg)

If you are into flight sims, um I wouldnt know what game to recommend, I used to play a lot flight sims, 5-6yrs ago so I dont know the good ones now.

Great thing about HTPCs, with such high system specs, gaming can be accomodated.  Higher resolutions and better graphics even an XBOX wouldnt be able to match.

Sir Andaleon... get into gaming! it would be a whole new thing for you to go gaga over! heheh... have fun!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ADM202E on Oct 04, 2004 at 08:55 AM
Need GAMING Advice:

A PC store saleman suggested that I should try PC Gaming with a rig like mine.

I have been doing a lot of video editing and Hi Def Archiving but have not looked at what seems to an exciting world of PC Gaming. Maybe I just did not have the time.

I am a newbie when it comes to Gaming.

I asked a couple of friends and I'll ask you guys:

What do you recommend? What gear?

I have always like Flying, so maybe I should start with a Flight Simulator. Any suggestions?

Few changes I made to my HTPC :

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache-Overclocked to 3.9 Ghz
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 XT Platinum PCI Express-16 Video Card-OVERCLOCKED
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 34 GB Each RAPTOR Drives (10,000 RPM, SATA) for OS and Program Files RAID 0 Array
6.) 1 GB DDR2 PC2-4300 RAM Overclocked to 600 Mhz
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Stacker Case with Crossflow fan
12.) Two 550W Antec True Power Power Supplies
13.) Two Antec Hard Drive coolers
14.) Two Removable 250 GB EIDE Drives-


Nice setup dude. Actual photos?......internal looks and the whole system?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Oct 04, 2004 at 03:02 PM
"Momo Racing Force Feedback"

I like the thought of that!

Speed is always addictive .

I'll post pictures later.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Oct 04, 2004 at 03:19 PM
"Momo Racing Force Feedback"

I like the thought of that!

Speed is always addictive .

I'll post pictures later.

Oh not to mention, the lifelike sounds in surround with your sound system.  This game is goin to rock!  by the wya this game is extremely difficult, but once you get the hang of it, finishing a course and watching the replay is very very rewarding.

Any news of Theatertek2 yet?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Oct 05, 2004 at 06:15 AM
Picture of tha actual "RAPTOR" HTPC. 

I took it out. It is normally housed in a separate room and controlled via RF mouse and keyboard. Forget about taking this to LAN party! It turned out to be too huge to transport around.

(http://gallery.constantwanderings.com/albums/htsetup/DSC01792.sized.jpg)

Notice the intake for the crossflow fan.

(http://gallery.constantwanderings.com/albums/htsetup/DSC01794.sized.jpg)

Inside. Notice the two Power Supplies, SATA Connections

(http://gallery.constantwanderings.com/albums/htsetup/DSC01795.sized.jpg)

The Chip and Mobo- P5AD2 with Intel 925x  Chipset, Pentium 4 550 3.4GHz in LGA 775 form. Below is the X800 XT video card with it's unique 6-Pin Power Connector.

(http://gallery.constantwanderings.com/albums/htsetup/DSC01796.sized.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Oct 05, 2004 at 08:29 AM
That is one kick ass HTPC, Ive never seen so many hard drives in one case before!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Oct 05, 2004 at 12:06 PM
That's why the CoolerMaster stacker is a logical choice.

I like the cooling options on it too, especially the CrossFlow fan. You can overclock without resorting to liquid cooling. I'd rather use the resources for more Hard Drives.

The motherboard can actually support 14 hard drives.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: yukon on Oct 05, 2004 at 02:39 PM
HANEP!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ADM202E on Oct 06, 2004 at 03:59 PM
Cool rigs dude! Two thumbs up!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Nov 27, 2004 at 01:48 PM
are those sata?and how big is the sizes?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Nov 27, 2004 at 04:03 PM
The SATA's are 300 GB each with 16MB buffers.

I just bought two more. I run the the system at RAID 10.

Two Raptor SATA drives (34GB, 10K RPM) run at RAID 0 for the Operating System and Program Files.

I have just recently built a similar system minus the Hi Def tuner and Sound Card for a Cardiologist for his  Medical  Imaging. It takes images off his Nuclear Camera and UltraSound . A superb group of Heart Doctors then use this as a reading station.

Cool, this is thing isn't just for fun after all!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Nov 27, 2004 at 06:09 PM
The SATA's are 300 GB each with 16MB buffers.

I just bought two more. I run the the system at RAID 10.

Two Raptor SATA drives (34GB, 10K RPM) run at RAID 0 for the Operating System and Program Files.

I have just recently built a similar system minus the Hi Def tuner and Sound Card for a Cardiologist for his  Medical  Imaging. It takes images off his Nuclear Camera and UltraSound . A superb group of Heart Doctors then use this as a reading station.

Cool, this is thing isn't just for fun after all!

How much do you get those SATA drives there? I got from a local store here in Manila a 160gb SATA drive Php 6,300 or roughly US$ 120. I am sure it's far cheaper there in the US with all the stores and online merchants competing wildly for consumers there...

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:26 AM
been looking for a 160gb sata drive with no luck... lahat out of stock... you know where I can get one thats readily available?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: elmers on Dec 01, 2004 at 12:48 PM
That's why the CoolerMaster stacker is a logical choice.

I like the cooling options on it too, especially the CrossFlow fan. You can overclock without resorting to liquid cooling. I'd rather use the resources for more Hard Drives.

The motherboard can actually support 14 hard drives.

cool set up. why do you need so much hard drive?  is it because of your video editing stuff?  =)
enjoy the new world of gaming!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:56 AM
Hi,

Was reading PC Buyers guide last week, and I found another local retailer selling an HTPC case.

Cooler Master Cavalier 4
(http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/1242.jpg)

I think I remember it was Axis Global.  I think its 7k if I remember it correctly.
Title: How to build a Basic HTPC
Post by: jpadua on Dec 02, 2004 at 09:52 AM
hmm I think its time to revive this thread once again :) its been quite a while.

So for those interested in building an HTPC here's a short list of things you might need.  So you can cross check with the stuff you already have and maybe stuff you might want to buy.

An HTPC is basically a PC built with  entertainment features in mind... for the most part it is used mainly with your Home Theater System hence the name "Home Theater PC".

Here's a basic Checklist:

1. HTPC Casing - A case that is asthetically pleasing, usually in a desktop configuration (not a tower) that can blend in with your Home Theater equipment.   HTPC cases are not so abundant here, but there are a few who sell them.

-Extreme Modz carry some Silverstone HTPC cases
-Axis global has the new coolermaster Cavalier 4.

2. Powersupply -  any powersupply will do, but if you will be using a powerful graphics card, like the ati 9800pro or the newer Nvidia cards, I suggest you get a powersupply that is ample enough to provide all the juice your PC might need. 

A good powersupply would be an HEC PowerOP 475w.  Its pretty quiet and the fan is automated to change speed when the PSU gets too hot.  Its pretty silent, and has enough wattage to power lots of peripherals and several harddrives.  Another nice thing about is that the cables are sleeved so you your cables can be easily arranged for good airflow inside the case.

3. Motherboard - This all depends on what type of CPU you plan to use, so I'll just layout the basic. Find one with spdif output (digital audio output).  Most motherboards now have this so you wont have a problem finding them.  This allows you to send Audio digitally to your Home Theater Amp and have the amp do the AC-3 or DTS decoding.

My personal favorite is still the Nforce 2 based motherboard.   If you are planning on using an AthlonXP then look for a board that has an NForce2 Chipset with MCP-T.   This chipset has dolby digital "encoding"  anything thing that can spit out 5.1 from your PC will be encoded into Dolby Digital, Including Games! 

4. Processor -  This is more of a personal preference, but it all really depends on what you plan to do with your HTPC.  For basic DVD, MP3, CD-Audio, Internet and some games, I suggest not to go lower than an AthlonXP 2500 or its intel equivalent.   

5. Memory  - 512MB DDR.  Minimum.  This is enough for your PC to handle most current softwares out today.

6. Hard Drive - Again this all depends on what your needs are.  This is all relative, but for basic usage, 80GB would be more than sufficient. If you plan to store DVDs to your hard drive or record a lot of TV programs, then you will need a lot of storage.  SATA drives are recommended.   Ths bigger the better 120GB - 200GB.  Add more drives if you need the space.

7. DVD drive  or DVD-RW.   - Most current crop of DVD drives and DVD-RW drives are sufficient.   I sugget going for a lite-on DVD-RW since you can flash this to dual layer in the future.  Lite-on's are a bit noisy but there are ways to quiet the beast through software. Nero Drive speed can lower the read and spindown speed of your drive to make it quiet. 

8. Video card - I would suggest ATI... maybe the 9600, 9800, XTs and X800.  This all depends again.  If you would just want to use this for video output then, the 9600 series would be sufficient.  ATI is known to have very good overlay for video.  The latest crop of Nvidia cards are also good. 

9.  Sound Card.  If your motherboard already has the spdif output, then you can skip this part.  There are only 2 soundcards available here, that I can suggest.  The Audigy 2 ZS or an M-Audio Revo.  Advantages of the other are simple... Audigy better game support.  M-Audio better audio  quality.  Both are really good, they just have their own little niches.

10.  TV-Tuner. -  Hardware MPEG-2 cards are always better, but they cost a lot and not much is available here.  The Hauppauge PVR-250 is a standard.  For software encoders, The Leadtek WinfastXP is pretty good (this is what I use) and relatively cheap.

Now for the Software:

OS - WinXP home or professional.
DVD Player - WinDVD or PowerDVD, MediaPlayer Classic (free)   
MP3 Player - Winamp (free)
DVD Region management - DVDIdle or AnyDVD , RegionKiller (free)
DVD ripping software - DVDshrink (free)     

Frontend Software - This is what ties all your software into one interface....  This usually takes up your whole screen and you are presented only with buttons you specify to launch your MP3 Player, DVD Player, CD player, TV Tuner etc.

myHTPC (free)
Media Portal (free)

Of course you would want to use your new HTPC wirelessly.  Look for any wireless keyboard and mouse combo.  Unfortunately only a few are available here locally, so we are really limited to the Logitech Wireless Combo.  Its actually has a pretty good range, enough for you to enjoy your HTPC from your couch.

How to connect the HTPC

If you do not own an HDTV, then your only choice is to connect the HTPC via s-video, most of the latest video cards already have s-video output built in.   If you will be connecting to an HDTV, you can use a VGA cable or DVI.

Connect your the digital output of the HTPC to the digital input on your amp. 

Power on and enjoy!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 02, 2004 at 03:28 PM
That was quite enlightening, jpadua.  I already have a P4 2.8 PC more for wav files and games than HT, but at least I know which parts to upgrade if I want to give it more muscle.  Thanks.  Just some concerns you may be able to help:

1.  Would a more powerful power supply that you mentioned require that I get a bigger ATX casing, or wiill they have the same form factor so that the  current one will do? 

2.   Can a SATA drive co-exist with an IDE drive?  I currently have two 80gb and one 120gb IDE drives.  My motherboard is an Asus  P4P8000 SE.that supports SATA.  At the rate I am putting in umcomrpressed wav files from new CDs, seems I will need a few more HDDs within the next 6 months.  What's the maximum number of drives I can put in?  Assuming a mix of IDE and SATA?

3.  Should I need a hard drive cooler if I go beyond 120gb?

4   With the maximum HDD on board, what's the recommended power supply? 

5.  Is the athlon 64-bit processor and motherboard better than the intel prescott and assosiated motherboard like the P5dv2? 

6    On quiet afternoons and evenings, I can still hear a whinning noise on my PC.  I am not sure if that's the powersupply fan or the CPU fan.  What would be the culprit here?   As an audiophile, I really would like to have complete siilence with only the music to hear. (I often turn off the aircon for this purpose and suffer the heat.   ;D  Are there quiet CPU fans and power supply fans out there?  Any recommendations?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Dec 02, 2004 at 06:00 PM
1.  Would a more powerful power supply that you mentioned require that I get a bigger ATX casing, or wiill they have the same form factor so that the  current one will do? 
They have the same form factor size, it is the wattage where their difference starts to crop. Power supplies nowadays are available from a lowly 350 watts to an all brawn 550 watts. Which one you should get will largely depend on your what devices you have. If you have like 4 or more hard drives and dvd-roms, dvd-writer or powerful graphic cards like Ati Radeon 9700pro, 9800pro/xt, x800 or Nvidia 5950, 6800 then you would need 450 watts at least. Also take into consideration the various case fans that you might have.

2.   Can a SATA drive co-exist with an IDE drive?  I currently have two 80gb and one 120gb IDE drives.  My motherboard is an Asus  P4P8000 SE.that supports SATA.  At the rate I am putting in umcomrpressed wav files from new CDs, seems I will need a few more HDDs within the next 6 months.  What's the maximum number of drives I can put in?  Assuming a mix of IDE and SATA?
SATA and PATA drives can co-exist without any problems. Since you have an Asus  P4P8000 SE, you may actually attach 6 hard drives provided that you don't use an optical drive. If you do have an optical drive, then you can attach 5 drives. 3 PATA drives and 2 SATA drives.

3.  Should I need a hard drive cooler if I go beyond 120gb?
In my opinion, you don't need a hard drive cooler. Since most PCs have the hard drives located at the bottom front portion of the case, just put a 80mm or even better a 120mm fan in front of it (assuming of course there is a provisional vent hole). Just allow proper ventilation of your PC case is enough.

4   With the maximum HDD on board, what's the recommended power supply? 
Just to be sure, try 450watts and above. Better overpowered than underpowered.

5.  Is the athlon 64-bit processor and motherboard better than the intel prescott and assosiated motherboard like the P5dv2? 

AMD Athlon 64 are good for gaming. Intel are better for encoding stuff like mp3, divx, etc. In your case, I think your intel 2.8 is sufficient enough . You did not mention your video card, in any case, I think thats what you need to upgrade if you decide to go into games.  Upgrade it into any video card sporting the Nvidia 6600GT chip, get the agp version since thats what your motherboard supports.

6    On quiet afternoons and evenings, I can still hear a whinning noise on my PC.  I am not sure if that's the powersupply fan or the CPU fan.  What would be the culprit here?   As an audiophile, I really would like to have complete silence with only the music to hear. (I often turn off the aircon for this purpose and suffer the heat.   ;D  Are there quiet CPU fans and power supply fans out there?  Any recommendations?  Thanks.

The noise you are hearing is likely from the stock intel fan you are using. In my case, my cpu is an intel prescott so the cpu fan would go up to 5100 rpm when under load, so you can just imagine the amount of annoying noise it makes. The amount of noise that a fan emits is directly proportional to the rpm it is running at, which is directly proportional to the heat the cpu is emitting. A quiet cpu fan may be one that operates at lower rpm which in turn could affect their cooling efficiency. On the other hand, a cpu fan that operates at a high rpm would emit lots of annoying noise but it helps control the temperature.

In your case, you might want to go for a more efficient heatsink like those heat pipes made of pure copper so that you can run your fan at a lower rpm. Good but pricey brands include thermalright and zalman. The thermalright requires the purchase of a separte fan. A good fan brand is swiftech. Go to newegg.com for more details.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:20 PM
been looking for a 160gb sata drive with no luck... lahat out of stock... you know where I can get one thats readily available?

I got mine from Virra Mall 2nd floor store last weekend...

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 03, 2004 at 09:24 AM
That was quite enlightening, jpadua.  I already have a P4 2.8 PC more for wav files and games than HT, but at least I know which parts to upgrade if I want to give it more muscle.  Thanks.  Just some concerns you may be able to help:

1.  Would a more powerful power supply that you mentioned require that I get a bigger ATX casing, or wiill they have the same form factor so that the  current one will do? 

2.   Can a SATA drive co-exist with an IDE drive?  I currently have two 80gb and one 120gb IDE drives.  My motherboard is an Asus  P4P8000 SE.that supports SATA.  At the rate I am putting in umcomrpressed wav files from new CDs, seems I will need a few more HDDs within the next 6 months.  What's the maximum number of drives I can put in?  Assuming a mix of IDE and SATA?

3.  Should I need a hard drive cooler if I go beyond 120gb?

4   With the maximum HDD on board, what's the recommended power supply? 

5.  Is the athlon 64-bit processor and motherboard better than the intel prescott and assosiated motherboard like the P5dv2? 

6    On quiet afternoons and evenings, I can still hear a whinning noise on my PC.  I am not sure if that's the powersupply fan or the CPU fan.  What would be the culprit here?   As an audiophile, I really would like to have complete siilence with only the music to hear. (I often turn off the aircon for this purpose and suffer the heat.   ;D  Are there quiet CPU fans and power supply fans out there?  Any recommendations?  Thanks.

Hi Av_phile1,

Let me also try to answer your questions:

1.  As long as your casing is of the ATX form factor, any ATX powersupply will fit your Casing.  Actually you would be fine with a 350w PSU, but if you have a lot of peripherals like several hard drives and a power hungry video card, you might need one.  I already went through 2 350w powersupplies.  The one that lasted was my 475w I guess its more of a suggestion based on my personal experience.  My machine is running an AthlonXP overclocked to 3200, with 3 Harddrives, 1 DVDrom drive and one CDRW.  I'm using a 9800pro (which uses external power) and a TV card.  I guess 2 350w psus really couldnt cut it.

2. Yes IDE and Sata drives can co exist.  One of the main reasons why I recommended Sata drives is because they have faster drive access and have an 8mb buffer as a default.  The large size is for storing huge amounts of data. In my case, I rip my favorite DVD's to the hard drive so that I dont have to keep loading the discs.  Its very convinient, I just open my DVD player, and choose what movie to watch from the interface.  Having DVDs also on the hard drive will help prolong the life of your Discs as well, since you would barely use it now that its stored on the hard drive.   Some people archive TV shows on a regular basis using their TV card so again the large hard drive is recommended.

If you really plan on stacking up your Hard drives, I think the best way is to get 200GB sata drives.  In your case you can probably have 2 sata drives. so 400GB will be your max... also you can still use your IDE ports for maybe 4 more drives... if you can fit it in your case.

3. Hard drive cooler are neat, as long as you have the space for it.   If your case has adequate ventilation, then you might not need HD coolers (plus they add to the noise).

4.  Most of the current crop of motherboards would already support SATA.  Most configurations would have 2 SATA ports, IDE1 and IDE2 and even an IDE3.  My mobo for example is an MSI ILSR MCP-T.  Which has all of these.   The SATA ports and IDE3 can be raid configured.

5. To what I know, prescotts run really really hot.  So if you want to shave off some degrees in your case an Athlon64 would be better.

6. Silencing is also an important part in HTPC building especially if you are an audiophile. Here are some recomendations:

If you are using an AthlonXP The ThermalTake Silentboost is as quiet as a whisper (CPU Heatsink and Fan)  21dba
For other Processors the Zalman CNPS7000A-CU is king on HTPCs and is rated <21dba  Thats pretty quiet.  Only draw back with this HSF is you have to make sure it fits your motherboard for it is quite huge.  Visit the Zalman Website and check the compatible motherboards.

One of the most overlooked source of noise would be your Video card fan.  This can actually be the loudest in your system.   If you are using an ATI Card.   The Artic VGA Silencer is highly recommended.   I have one and I cannot hear it at all, even on high speed which even allows me to run my 9800Pro on XT Speeds! thats pretty impressive.   If you dont really plan to overclock, The Zalman Heatpipe cooler is totally silent since it is fanless, you can also try the new Coolviva Heatpipe cooler (the ones used on the new Nvidia 6800 coolviva)

PSU's are also sources of noise... but you can find a lot of silent PSU now.  HEC Silent OP, Power OP,  Task450, Silverstone SilentX.   When looking for a good powersupply, look at the noise rating.  Most of them are silent.   Older PSU are as loud as vaccum cleaners.  You wont have much trouble looking for Silent PSUs.

Case fans are also a source of noise.  There are a lot of Silent Case fans... look for the ones rated at 21dba or less... It may be hard to find here, but you might be able to find some from other modding enthusiasts over at tipidPC.com

Other things to silence your HTPC.   In Extreme Modz Greenhills, they sell silicon vibration absorbers for ATX PSU and 80mm fans.  Also rubber washers on your hard drive screws help a lot in reducing vibration noise. 

Another source of noise (which is somehow really irritating) is the spin-up and spin-down noise of your DVD drive.   Most drives nowadays are really fast, only draw back would be the whirring noise everytime it reads an Audio CD or DVD.  Most Set-top DVD players are very quiet since the DVD drives are as low as 2x speed.   You can acutally lower the speed of your Drive whenever you want to by using this freeware program called NERO Drive speed.  You can find this on the Web.  Another useful tool is DVD Idle Pro.   This is another DVD drive utility that caches the data on the drive thus reducing the Drive read time.  Instead of reading the disc throughout a whole DVD movie, DVD Idle will read the disc contents and the rest will be played from a memory buffer.

Samsung DVD drives are very very quiet probably the best one out there. Ive personally compared it to lite-ons and boy were the lite ons really LOUD.  (I work on my computers in a sound dampened room so I can really tell)

If you really want to get into PC silencing....  check out http://www.buildsilentpc.com/

I once built a really silent HTPC, I can hardly tell that it was running. unless I stick my ear to the case. 
My silent components were only:

Task Silent PSU
Thermal Take Silent Boost CPU Heatsink and Fan
Zalman Heatpipe video cooler.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:09 AM
Number1,

hey Ive heard about the new Thermalright heatpipe HSF (The one that looks like a souped up engine) that can accommodate a 120mm fan... Is that available in the philippines?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:40 AM
Boy, that's a mouthful alright. Thanks number1 and jpadua.  That's another enligtening round.  Let me digest those recommendations  Seems I do have a lot to work on to bring down the noise and optimize my PC as an HTPC.  . 

I think I'm using an ATi Radeon 9800 for my video card. Though i'm not sure if its a pro or something else. I'll check the box tonight.   But it was supposed to be better as it was more expensive than the stock GE Force video card they were offering at PC Exchange Corner at Glorietta where I got my PC last July.   Can't even recall if it has a fan. 

I didn't know I could specify the fans or cooling system to use when I specified my PC at the shop.  I had the impression they came stock with the case, the cpu and the psu.  Those nitwits never advised me though I told them  I wanted a dead silent PC to be used as a music server.   And they recommended an Audigy LS when I said I wanted a professional soundcard with dtx decoding.  Supposed to be better with its 100db S/N ratio than the motherboard sound card.  Turns out it's just another so-so sound card.  Well. the shortcomings seem to appear over time.   Now I know better. Thanks to this forum with you guys.   I might as well get a new PC with all the right stuff for my purpose.  Later na lang when finances allow.  And with the rate of technological advances, i'm sure ther'd be cheaper and better options out there in 6 months time, right? Hopefully the exchange rate doesn't get worst.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:45 AM


5. To what I know, prescotts run really really hot.  So if you want to shave off some degrees in your case an Athlon64 would be better.


Nice to know the Athlon runs cooler.  But is this the only benefit?  I heard it's 64-bit archecture beats anything that Intel has to offer with its 32-bit limitation.  Just not sure if there are already 64-bit PC applications and games to maximize this feature. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:49 AM
Hi,

Was reading PC Buyers guide last week, and I found another local retailer selling an HTPC case.

Cooler Master Cavalier 4
(http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/1242.jpg)

I think I remember it was Axis Global.  I think its 7k if I remember it correctly.

Do they have something in BLACK?  And any idea on their prixe?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:56 AM


SATA and PATA drives can co-exist without any problems. Since you have an Asus  P4P8000 SE, you may actually attach 6 hard drives provided that you don't use an optical drive. If you do have an optical drive, then you can attach 5 drives. 3 PATA drives and 2 SATA drives.


Optical drive, you mean a DVD/CD reader/writer?  I have one.  I plan to have another dedicated CD-writer.  So that means If i have two optical drives, I can only have ONE more HDD to add to my existing three HDDs?? 

What if I use a external CD writer connected via USB, is this as good as an internal one?  Are external drives available  out there just as fast?  Thanks. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 03, 2004 at 11:04 AM
Boy, that's a mouthful alright. Thanks number1 and jpadua.  That's another enligtening round.  Let me digest those recommendations  Seems I do have a lot to work on to bring down the noise and optimize my PC as an HTPC.  . 

I think I'm using an ATi Radeon 9800 for my video card. Though i'm not sure if its a pro or something else. I'll check the box tonight.   But it was supposed to be better as it was more expensive than the stock GE Force video card they were offering at PC Exchange Corner at Glorietta where I got my PC last July.   Can't even recall if it has a fan. 

I didn't know I could specify the fans or cooling system to use when I specified my PC at the shop.  I had the impression they came stock with the case, the cpu and the psu.  Those nitwits never advised me though I told them  I wanted a dead silent PC to be used as a music server.   And they recommended an Audigy LS when I said I wanted a professional soundcard with dtx decoding.  Supposed to be better with its 100db S/N ratio than the motherboard sound card.  Turns out it's just another so-so sound card.  Well. the shortcomings seem to appear over time.   Now I know better. Thanks to this forum with you guys.   I might as well get a new PC with all the right stuff for my purpose.  Later na lang when finances allow.  And with the rate of technological advances, i'm sure ther'd be cheaper and better options out there in 6 months time, right? Hopefully the exchange rate doesn't get worst.  ;D

i believe they just put in what they have in stock:) gilmore would be a better venue if you're particular w/ the components (some of the more popular) you need.

i think the audigy LS is mid level. the audigy 2 (platinum is it?) is thx certified. about 7.5k.

heat sinks will guarantee 0 noise but are not very popular here (in my case, i've yet to see a pc that does). processors use fans for cooling so definitely there'll be noise.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 03, 2004 at 11:12 AM


Nice to know the Athlon runs cooler.  But is this the only benefit?  I heard it's 64-bit archecture beats anything that Intel has to offer with its 32-bit limitation.  Just not sure if there are already 64-bit PC applications and games to maximize this feature. 

windows xp is 32-bit. it's amazing that intel and amd keep on releasing new processors when the old ones have not seen their full potential.

Quote
Optical drive, you mean a DVD/CD reader/writer?  I have one.  I plan to have another dedicated CD-writer.  So that means If i have two optical drives, I can only have ONE more HDD to add to my existing three HDDs?? 

What if I use a external CD writer connected via USB, is this as good as an internal one?  Are external drives available  out there just as fast?  Thanks. 

from my experience, the internal ones are faster.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 11:41 AM
Thanks Bumblebee.  Yup, there's always good reason for Gates to keep up often at the expense of having to upgrade unnecesarily  ;D  I guess that's the name of the game in computers.  Your PC is state-of-the-art only for six months or less.  ;D

I guess the Audigy LS is fine but I'm  getting some residual noise I can hear when no disc is playing. Not audible from my listening position but it's there when I place my ears close to the tweeters at hgh volume - whereas my usual CD and DVD components are dead silent at that level.  I am not entirely certain if that's the fault of my soundcard or my Liteon DVD/CD writer. 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 03, 2004 at 11:47 AM

Do they have something in BLACK?  And any idea on their prixe?  Thanks.

I think there is a black version of this.... unfortunately this is for the not so powerhungry HTPC since it comes with a proprietary powersupply of I think 300W...

You can check out Extreme modz for HTPC cases.  Out of all the HTPC cases they have there, the best one would be the LCO3 by silverstone.  I think they sell it of 8.5k

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/lc03v/34%20view/LC03v.jpg)
Although the one they have does not have the Vaccum Flourecent Display as the one here in the picture.

This one accepts full size ATX motherboards and ATX powersupply, so you wont have any problems fitting your stuff in here.

With regards to the Optical dive Ive got better success with internal ones than the external kinds.  The discs I burn externally somehow are figity sometimes they work sometimes they dont... again i'm just using an external USB2 Enclosure.  Maybe the prebuilt external models are better.

With regards to the sound card, The Audigy ZS is good but not really up to par with other Audio Soundcards built for audio fidelity.  Audigy really shines for games.  For music you can try other alternatives.

If you want Quality audio output and bit perfect Spdif output, you can take a look at the m-audio

The M-Audio Audiophile 2496
(http://www.m-audio.com/images/en/callouts/big/audiophile_2496.jpg)

2 Analog Stereo outputs, 2 Analog Stereo inputs, Digital Coax output and input supports AC-3 and DTS passthrough.

This is perfect if you want to enjoy both HT and Audiophile quality Stereo.   For HT use the Spdif outs, for Stereo, hook up the Analog outputs to your Stereo Amp.  Also this card uses the latest 64bit drivers.  Backwards compatible. ... I think.

M-audio'sline of PCI interfaces are used in a lot digital recording studios.

Read reviews about this card... its one of the top choices for Audiophile PC users. 

Another option would be the M-Audio Revolution 7.1
7.1 Analog outputs and Spidif output.   For you I would suggest the 2496 instead.

I know the distributor of M-audio here, I can get it for you if you want.
www.m-audio.com

its about $130 MSRP, so the price in peso wouldnt differ that much since we can get it straight from the distributor.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 03, 2004 at 11:48 AM

I guess the Audigy LS is fine but I'm  getting some residual noise I can hear when no disc is playing. Not audible from my listening position but it's there when I place my ears close to the tweeters at hgh volume - whereas my usual CD and DVD components are dead silent at that level.  I am not entirely certain if that's the fault of my soundcard or my Liteon DVD/CD writer. 



sir, try listening to the wavs in your hard drive. if there's still noise, then the sound card is contributing to the noise.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 05:20 PM
Thanks bumblebee and jpadua

I've also read and heard good things about this M-audio soundcard lately so it will definittely be on my list for any new PC or upgrade.   

That black HTPC case is really something.  Makes me want to upgrade now.   ;D  Have to control myself.  I just have other priorities at the moment, like a new SACD or universal player.  Well, since we're on the subject, are there DVD-A and SACD players for the PC?  Or soundcards to decode the MLP and DSD data streams? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 03, 2004 at 05:38 PM
Thanks bumblebee and jpadua

That black HTPC case is really something.  Makes me want to upgrade now.   ;D  Have to control myself.  I just have other priorities at the moment, like a new SACD or universal player.  Well, since we're on the subject, are there DVD-A and SACD players for the PC?  Or soundcards to decode the MLP and DSD data streams? 


there may be. but i doubt if there's one here now or in the near future. most people would rather spend on processors and video cards. im one of the pc people and ive yet to see a setup using a separate sound card :)

the pc industry hasn't really caught up w/ hifi. maybe a few years more.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 06:32 PM
I plan to have another dedicated CD-writer.  So that means If i have two optical drives, I can only have ONE more HDD to add to my existing three HDDs?? 
Yes one more hard drive. With that configuration you must have two PATA hard drives and two SATA drives. Here's why, your motherboard (the Asus P4P800 SE) has two IDE channels (Primary and Secondary). Each channel can accomodate two devices each only, either as Master and Slave drives.  Since you mentioned that you plan to connect two optical drives so they would occupy the Secondary channel already. Which leaves you with the primary channel which can accomodate two PATA drives. Lastly, the another two SATA drives can be connected to the two SATA ports. Total of 4 hard drives (2 PATA and 2 SATA) and 2 optical drives.

What if I use a external CD writer connected via USB, is this as good as an internal one?  Are external drives available  out there just as fast?  Thanks. 
The internal one is better. USB 1.1 connection may not be sufficient. I dont know about USB 2.0. If you plan to get an external drive, try getting one with at least a USB 2.0 or better yet a Firewire (IEEE 1394) connection. Or you might consider putting one of your hard disks in an external enclosure instead.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Dec 03, 2004 at 06:38 PM
Number1,
hey Ive heard about the new Thermalright heatpipe HSF (The one that looks like a souped up engine) that can accommodate a 120mm fan... Is that available in the philippines?
I dont think so.  ;D I dont think there is a market  or the market is really small for exotic PC hardwares here. I highly recommend purchasing any PC component not available here, at (www.newegg.com). Although you need to have relatives in the US who would readily lend you their credit card and mailing address as newegg does not accept any Philippines issued credit cards nor do they accept any international orders.   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 04, 2004 at 08:35 AM
Thanks bumblebee and jpadua

I've also read and heard good things about this M-audio soundcard lately so it will definittely be on my list for any new PC or upgrade.   

That black HTPC case is really something.  Makes me want to upgrade now.   ;D  Have to control myself.  I just have other priorities at the moment, like a new SACD or universal player.  Well, since we're on the subject, are there DVD-A and SACD players for the PC?  Or soundcards to decode the MLP and DSD data streams? 

Currently there are very few options for DVD-A. 
The Audigy2 ZS Platiunum and the M-Audio revolution 7.1 are the only ones, that I have tried and tested.  I think the m-audio Delta 2496 can also output DVD-A im not sure though.

Audigy uses its own mediaplayer for DVD-A and you may also use WinDVD6 Platinum for DVD-A with Video
M-Audio Revolution also can decode DVD-A and uses WinDVD6 Platinum as the Player.

These are the only two that I know of... when using DVD-A Discs only Analaog Audio output will pump out high resolution audio, spdif will down convert the stream to CD Quality.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Dec 05, 2004 at 02:29 PM
the m-audio revolution 7.1 card sounds neat. upgrade siguro ako into that sound card in the near future. right now, I'm quite satisfied with what I have right now though its just an onboard audio(abit nf7s v2 mobo). my new HTPC is running windows media center 2005 with HDTV and SDTV feeds and recording capabilities and DTS/DD5.1 audio out for DVD playback(using PowerDVD 6).

case is Ahanix D.Vine 5 (http://www.ahanix.com/ahanix_product.asp?pid=8)
(http://www.pinoyxbox.com/files/ahanix2.jpg)

what's inside:
Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 250 (http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr250.html)
VBox DTA 151 ATSC Tuner (http://www.vboxcomm.com/product3.htm)
Airlink Wireless G Card
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro with Artic Cooling VGA Silencer (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-186-110&depa=0)
1GB Cosair DDR PC3200
Hitachi 250GB SATA
NEC 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive
(http://www.pinoyxbox.com/files/ahanix1.jpg)

Ahanix' VFD
(http://www.pinoyxbox.com/files/ahanix3.jpg)

htpc is connected sa Tosh 46H83 rptv, with Gyration GT Compact Keyboard Suite (http://www.gyration.com/ultragt-compact.htm) and Harmony Remote 688
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 06, 2004 at 09:00 AM
Hey GM,

Nice Dign case, I'm guessing your not in the philippines :)  The PVR-250 and the Dign case, gyration remote, MCE 2005 and HDBroadcasts are not available here :(

Cool rig you got there... , checkout www.htpcnews.com. I have been a member of the forums for more than a yr now. 

My current rig:

Arisetec HT-400 HTPC Case
HEC PowerOP 475w PSU
Newtech DVD-RW
ATI 9800 Pro with Arctic VGA Silencer
Leadtek Winfast XP 2000 Expert TV-Tuner
160GB Seagate Baraccuda SATA
2 40GB IDE Seagate Baraccudas
MSI K7N2-Delta ILSR  with MCP-T Dolyby Digital Encoding Nvidia SoundStorm
Auditrak Maya 44 4in/4out USB Audio Interface
512MB Apacer DDR 3200
Athlon XP 2500 @ 200FSB = (axp3200)
Gigabyte 3D Pro Heatpipe CPU cooler
Imon MM Internal HTPC Remote Control
Airboard IR Keyboard with Joystick mouse control

WinXP Home
Zoomplayer Pro DVD/Media Player
Foobar2000 Audioplayer
Meedio (Front-End) with my very own Meedio Theme (http://www.m2systech.com/stuff)
Showshifter (PVR and Time-Shifting)
Dscaler 4.18 (TV-Viewing)
WinDVD6 Platinum DVD codecs /  Dscaler5 Mpeg2 Codecs
DVD Shrink - DVD Ripping Software
DVD Idle - DVD Region Manager
PowerStrip - Video Resolution Manager

Connected to a 29" PixelPlus 4:3 HDTV Monitor
Marantz SR4300 and JPW Speakers, 10" US Audio Subwoofer

I could quiet down my HTPC, except my CPU is overclocked and my silent boost HSF works well with non-overclocked CPUs, The Gigabyte heatpipe cooler is a bit loud for my tastes.

(http://www.m2systech.com/images/avsetup2.jpg)
(http://www.m2systech.com/images/avsetup3.jpg)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Dec 06, 2004 at 11:14 AM
jpadua, that's a cool rig you got there. ang linis palang tingnan ng silver  :).  i built my rig piece by piece, and medyo nagmadali ako sa pagkuha ng Ahanix case.microATX PSU lang yung pwede sa kanya though fullATX mobo yung gamit ko.limited ako sa power kaya hindi pa ko makapagRAID. 2 250 SATA HDD sana yung ilalagay ko kaso 300W lang PSU ko.my cpu is athlon xp 2800+ stock.

i'm also using Powestrip kaso medyo annoying rin yung overscan ng Tosh 46H83 ko.i've spent several sleepless nights trying to figure out the right combo pero etong huli sya na yung pinaka matino.right now, 1280x720p lang resolution ko but my TV can do 1080i kaso pag nagsetup na ko ng 1080i, nasisira display ko.with my nVidia GeForce FX5700, i could easily setup my display hanggang 1080i pero tong Radeon 9800, nangangapa ako masyado.the reason why I'm stuck with the 9800 is that its the minimum requirement for HD playback(that I have right now)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 06, 2004 at 12:08 PM
jpadua, that's a cool rig you got there. ang linis palang tingnan ng silver  :).  i built my rig piece by piece, and medyo nagmadali ako sa pagkuha ng Ahanix case.microATX PSU lang yung pwede sa kanya though fullATX mobo yung gamit ko.limited ako sa power kaya hindi pa ko makapagRAID. 2 250 SATA HDD sana yung ilalagay ko kaso 300W lang PSU ko.my cpu is athlon xp 2800+ stock.

i'm also using Powestrip kaso medyo annoying rin yung overscan ng Tosh 46H83 ko.i've spent several sleepless nights trying to figure out the right combo pero etong huli sya na yung pinaka matino.right now, 1280x720p lang resolution ko but my TV can do 1080i kaso pag nagsetup na ko ng 1080i, nasisira display ko.with my nVidia GeForce FX5700, i could easily setup my display hanggang 1080i pero tong Radeon 9800, nangangapa ako masyado.the reason why I'm stuck with the 9800 is that its the minimum requirement for HD playback(that I have right now)

Yeah, thanks! pero maganda yung design ng Dign, aesthetically, mas mukhang hi-end compared to the HT-400... design flaw lang talaga yung pag gamit nila ng mATX... they reserved the space kasi for an ATSC tuner na never naman lumabas .... di ba kaya i modify yung standoffs to fit a full atx board?.

yah... yung 9800 may WMV-HD acceleration... laking tulong sa Mga HD clips and Streams....  Ive only tried ATI ever since so I have no experience setting up HDTV Resolutions with Nvidia Cards... so far naman lahat ng ATI cards that Ive worked with I was able to get basic HD resolutions, 540p 720p and 1080i they all support them naman...   

ako for watching DVDs I dont mind the overscan.. para di nababago yung pixel mapping... as powerstrip as long as nakapako to 60hz and 33.75khz yung frequency masaya na ako :)   Pag windows applications I switch to 800x600p @50hz... kaya ng TV ko kasi mag PAL so kaya ko mag 800x600 na walang major over and underscan.... although mas ma-flicker sya kasi mas mababa ang refresh rate, but I get the full resolution without interlacing.

 
Title: RAID Question
Post by: jpadua on Dec 06, 2004 at 12:13 PM
By the way I have a Raid Question.....

I have no experience in setting up RAID...

I just got a new 160SATA drive, I found out that my sata ports only work for RAID setup.. .so what I did was I plugged my sata, and setup the raid to strip performance mode 1 array...  then I setup windows on that drive.

My question is... if lets say I plug another drive on my sata port and configure it as array 2 what will happen?

1. if I plug in another identical drive 160GB Sata... will my total space increase to 320GB or will it still be 160Gig but twice the speed.
2. Will I I have another additional drive (currently C:) D: or will it be treated as one drive ?
3. If I Plug a 200GB Sata drive will it work? what will the outcome be?

Pasensya na, I'm totally new to SATA and Raid Configurations... I have no Idea of what I did, but I got my Rig working with one 160GB sata drive and no IDE drives.  I'm just thinking ahead if I want to add more drives to the sata port.. what will happen.
Title: Re: RAID Question
Post by: sebman on Dec 06, 2004 at 12:57 PM
By the way I have a Raid Question.....

I have no experience in setting up RAID...

I just got a new 160SATA drive, I found out that my sata ports only work for RAID setup.. .so what I did was I plugged my sata, and setup the raid to strip performance mode 1 array...  then I setup windows on that drive.

My question is... if lets say I plug another drive on my sata port and configure it as array 2 what will happen?

1. if I plug in another identical drive 160GB Sata... will my total space increase to 320GB or will it still be 160Gig but twice the speed.
- if you set it up as raid 1 you will only create a mirror of your  160GB hdd.. unless you configure it to use raid 0 which is striping then
you will get the whole 320GB as a single drive..

2. Will I I have another additional drive (currently C:) D: or will it be treated as one drive ?
- one drive only..

3. If I Plug a 200GB Sata drive will it work? what will the outcome be?
- it should also work.. meaning 160+200=360GB whole drive if you choose raid 0..

Pasensya na, I'm totally new to SATA and Raid Configurations... I have no Idea of what I did, but I got my Rig working with one 160GB sata drive and no IDE drives.  I'm just thinking ahead if I want to add more drives to the sata port.. what will happen.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 06, 2004 at 01:36 PM
Sebman Thanks for the Reply! now I understand it more....

one more pahabol question....

right now my 160 SATA in Raid0 is configured with 2 partitions isang 20GB and isang 140GB, if I add lets say a 200GB sata, what will happen? will I have new unpartitioned space? or will it automatically distribute to both partitions or will it all go to the last partition?

Thanks again in advance!

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Dec 06, 2004 at 01:43 PM
nah, hindi na kayang imodify yung case to fit a full atx PSU in its current design.hirap pa man ding maghanap ng silent PSU na microatx na more than 350W.


Yeah, thanks! pero maganda yung design ng Dign, aesthetically, mas mukhang hi-end compared to the HT-400... design flaw lang talaga yung pag gamit nila ng mATX... they reserved the space kasi for an ATSC tuner na never naman lumabas .... di ba kaya i modify yung standoffs to fit a full atx board?.
 
Title: i'm on T3 Magazine :) well at least my little article is
Post by: jpadua on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:15 AM
Hey Guys,

Finally HTPCs are catching on, T3 contacted me a few months ago to write a very basic how-to-guide to build an HTPC... anyway its out now in T3's december issue.  Its a very basic guide... as in! but at least im on T3 baby!!! my article even has a front cover mini-headline .... cool

Grab a copy if you see one! Thanks!

Jay
Title: Re: i'm on T3 Magazine :) well at least my little article is
Post by: GM on Dec 07, 2004 at 12:09 PM
cool! :)  congrats Jay.papabili nga ko kopya nyan.


Hey Guys,

Finally HTPCs are catching on, T3 contacted me a few months ago to write a very basic how-to-guide to build an HTPC... anyway its out now in T3's december issue.  Its a very basic guide... as in! but at least im on T3 baby!!! my article even has a front cover mini-headline .... cool

Grab a copy if you see one! Thanks!

Jay

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 07, 2004 at 12:17 PM
sige 120 pesoses only :p
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 07, 2004 at 01:53 PM


Currently there are very few options for DVD-A. 
The Audigy2 ZS Platiunum and the M-Audio revolution 7.1 are the only ones, that I have tried and tested.  I think the m-audio Delta 2496 can also output DVD-A im not sure though.

Audigy uses its own mediaplayer for DVD-A and you may also use WinDVD6 Platinum for DVD-A with Video
M-Audio Revolution also can decode DVD-A and uses WinDVD6 Platinum as the Player.

These are the only two that I know of... when using DVD-A Discs only Analaog Audio output will pump out high resolution audio, spdif will down convert the stream to CD Quality.

Now that gives me more argument to upgrade to an M-Audio sound card.

I recall that PC had been fast to catch on with CD playback years ago and spawwned this multimedia revolution.  Then came VCD playback in PCs.  I thought the convergence road was clear.  Now it seems high resolution playback in PCs are hard to come by. 

I really would like to see the day when sound systems, HT and PC become one happy ijtegrated family.  There has been so much talk about "INFOTAINMENT" or "EDUTAINMENT" as well as "MULTIMEDIA" systems - all bannering the convergence of various technologiex once reserved exclusively for this or that hobby.   About the onlly real convergent home entertiainment and PC system I've seeen in the SONY VAIO multimedia system.

I think many computer makers have been sidestepped into another convergence - that of mobile cellphones and computers. That's just fine.  But I would like to see the day when even mobile computing and telecomms converge with audio and video entertainment - like hearing your wav files or watching DVDs stored in your home entertainment  server via your cellphone hooked up to an entertainment center in the office or elsewhere.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Dec 07, 2004 at 03:14 PM
Microsoft is already pushing this "convergence" in their series of media center products that is based on Windows XP. right now, if you have Windows Media Center 2005 (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/whatsnew.mspx) machine, you can treat it as a central station of all your medias. you could get a Media Center Extender for XBOX (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/devices/xboxextenderkit.mspx) and stream all you media contents from your Media Center to your XBOX.Microsft Portable Media Players (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/portablemediacenter/default.mspx) by Creative,Samsung and iRiver can be use to synch all your media into a handheld where you could watch recorded TV shows and listed to music on the go.you could also use your Microsoft-based smartphones(voyager) and PDAs(XDA2) to synch almost all the medias stored in your media center.

many computer makers already were releasing their MCE-based machines. HP,Dell,Alienware,Toshiba were just some of the major players.Alienware (http://www.alienware.com/product_pages/media_center_all.aspx) has some of the coolest MCE machines available btw.

right now, watching DVDs and Live TV from a Media Extender device is still not possible but these features are on its way
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 07, 2004 at 03:18 PM


Now that gives me more argument to upgrade to an M-Audio sound card.

I recall that PC had been fast to catch on with CD playback years ago and spawwned this multimedia revolution.  Then came VCD playback in PCs.  I thought the convergence road was clear.  Now it seems high resolution playback in PCs are hard to come by. 

I really would like to see the day when sound systems, HT and PC become one happy ijtegrated family.  There has been so much talk about "INFOTAINMENT" or "EDUTAINMENT" as well as "MULTIMEDIA" systems - all bannering the convergence of various technologiex once reserved exclusively for this or that hobby.   About the onlly real convergent home entertiainment and PC system I've seeen in the SONY VAIO multimedia system.

I think many computer makers have been sidestepped into another convergence - that of mobile cellphones and computers. That's just fine.  But I would like to see the day when even mobile computing and telecomms converge with audio and video entertainment - like hearing your wav files or watching DVDs stored in your home entertainment  server via your cellphone hooked up to an entertainment center in the office or elsewhere.  ;D

there's this one article ive read from tomshardware.com about convergence. this was a part of his review for the 100$ creative ddts decoder (decodes all formats from dd to pl2x).

http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20040120/index.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 07, 2004 at 03:57 PM
About bit perfect spdif outputs,

Most soundcards can not output 44khz spdif Audigy 2 included... apparently Audigy and most soundcards resample the audio to 48khz... I dont know how important this is to you (I cant even tell the difference heheh), but for audiophiles its a big deal i think... anyway the only sound cards that do not re-sample are soundcards based on the ENVY chipset which include, the audiotrak Prodigy 7.1, this soundcard by chaintech (forgot the name), Mad dog 7.1 and M-Audio Revolution 7.1   I think the m-audio 2496 does not resample although its not based on the envy chipset.. im not so sure though.

About Windows Media Center 2005,

Its great, OS and Frontend bundled in one.  Has great features like DVD, TV recording, Slideshow viewing, Music Playing, ripping burning, so many features.   Unfortunately (no matter how much I want to have this OS)  the philippines is not ready for this....  I'm starting to feel like we are in the stone ages... aaargh anyway,  DVD viewing, slideshows, mp3 are cool features of MCE 2005 but the heart and soul of MCE is its TV recording and scheduling, allowing the user to never miss a TV show.   Something like a Tivo without a subscription fee.

MCE schedules the recordings by displaying an up-to-date show schedule for tv programs for all channels with descriptions categories etc.  You can record shows by your favorite genre, if you like to record only comedy shows, or if you are into sports, MCE can do this automatically for you.  You can also record shows simply by scanning the show schedule and simply marking the TV shows you want to record for the day, for the week, for the month.. and so on.

Why is the philippines not ready for this... because we (the philippines) dont have a damn EPG!!!  (electronic program guide) oh how I wish we did. MCE automatically downloads EPG data from your cable service provider on a regular bases for updated show schedules.   knowing how our country is.. it looks like were never going to have this in the next 5 years or so.  Looks like MCE will never be in the mainstream here.  Thats why we never saw it... MCE has been for such a long time already (MCE, MCE2004 and now MCE2005)

Other than that I guess we can take advantage of everything else MCE has to offer, but is it worth the money... we can do all those already with free software... my only reason for getting MCE would be when we have philippine EPG available. 

Its just so frustrating don't you think.

   

 
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 07, 2004 at 04:50 PM


there's this one article ive read from tomshardware.com about convergence. this was a part of his review for the 100$ creative ddts decoder (decodes all formats from dd to pl2x).

http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20040120/index.html

Thanks Bumblebee for pointg this out.  This is a neat piece of hardware which otherwise , I must say, is another argument for me why the convergence is not getting anywhere. 

Why on earth this PC -related makers insist on using baby jacks for connecting  their sound and video devices to powered speakers and to sources baffles me no end.  They either have no idea about the connection standards used in audio and video or they are plainly stiupid.  ;D

Next, why do they have to come out with another box just for this purpose,  Isn't a PCI epxress or PCI sound card  sufficient to have all the decoding for DD/DTS and their variants? Where will I put this new boc that won't even match my component system in looks?  With connectors that won't make use of my existing RCA cables?  What a total waste!!!

The way the ad-article is written seems to ne that this DDTS100 is being positioned to compete with Hi-Fi products with claims about its superior price-performance that aims to overturn long-held perceptons among audiophiles.  NOt the right way to win adherents to this convergence effort.  The product, at least the way it wwas bannered in that artidle, seems to succeed better at alienating audiophiles.

Tsk tsk.  :(  But it is a good product on its own.  Certainly adequate to give you HT features for a misleading price.  For just $150, you get all the format decoding you need to enjoy DVD-videos.  But you have to pair it with the Creative 7.1 powered speakers costing $600.  Total of $750.  What is the vendor thinking about?  For that amont, you can get a decent Onkyo or Yamaha HT receiver as well as excellent hi-fi quality Wharfedale and Mordaunt-short 5.1 speakers.   ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Dec 08, 2004 at 04:04 AM
MCE is still useful even without the EPG. you can still manually record TV shows(w/c any TV software does anyway). other features like online spotlight where you can download movies(that is if you have broadband),synching with your portable device and streaming medias anywhere in your house by using MCX are other stuff to consider in getting MCE.sa ngayon, walang plans ibenta ng retail ang MCE2005 e but you can buy one in newegg.com(and baka available na rin sa GH yun  ;D).

i used to be a TiVo user but hacking tivo is not that fun(im not that good in linux) and may subscription fee pa.i also considered using BeyondTV kaso ms-fanatic ako kaya nauwi sa MCE.  :)

by the way, i'm planning to upgrade my audio card for DVD-A and SACD playback but seems like M-Audio can only do analog or digital but not both(i read it in avsforum but forgot the link).i think Audigy 2 can do both.anyone have experience using Audigy cards?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Dec 08, 2004 at 04:45 AM
yo htpc maestro jpadua & RAIDers, just word of a caution for using RAID0, if your data is really important to you, back up regularly. RAID0 is not actually RAID, more of an "AID"  because it doesn't provide Redundancy.  If one disk fails(you'll never know when), you start from scratch and restore from backup.  whereas with RAID1, you still have the mirror.

u got great rigs man & congrats on your article

shalom :)
Title: Re: i'm on T3 Magazine :) well at least my little article is
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 08, 2004 at 06:12 AM
Hey Guys,

Finally HTPCs are catching on, T3 contacted me a few months ago to write a very basic how-to-guide to build an HTPC... anyway its out now in T3's december issue.  Its a very basic guide... as in! but at least im on T3 baby!!! my article even has a front cover mini-headline .... cool

Grab a copy if you see one! Thanks!

Jay


jpadua- congrats on your article regarding HTPCs.  I bought a copy myself although if I read this thread the article was just a tip of the iceberg.  Actually, before I even read this thread again, I already bought the mag and it was sealed but the mini headline in front made me buy the issue. 

BTW, I sent you a pm.

Kudos to you bro!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 08, 2004 at 08:01 AM


Thanks Bumblebee for pointg this out.  This is a neat piece of hardware which otherwise , I must say, is another argument for me why the convergence is not getting anywhere. 

Why on earth this PC -related makers insist on using baby jacks for connecting  their sound and video devices to powered speakers and to sources baffles me no end.  They either have no idea about the connection standards used in audio and video or they are plainly stiupid.  ;D

Next, why do they have to come out with another box just for this purpose,  Isn't a PCI epxress or PCI sound card  sufficient to have all the decoding for DD/DTS and their variants? Where will I put this new boc that won't even match my component system in looks?  With connectors that won't make use of my existing RCA cables?  What a total waste!!!

The way the ad-article is written seems to ne that this DDTS100 is being positioned to compete with Hi-Fi products with claims about its superior price-performance that aims to overturn long-held perceptons among audiophiles.  NOt the right way to win adherents to this convergence effort.  The product, at least the way it wwas bannered in that artidle, seems to succeed better at alienating audiophiles.

Tsk tsk.  :(  But it is a good product on its own.  Certainly adequate to give you HT features for a misleading price.  For just $150, you get all the format decoding you need to enjoy DVD-videos.  But you have to pair it with the Creative 7.1 powered speakers costing $600.  Total of $750.  What is the vendor thinking about?  For that amont, you can get a decent Onkyo or Yamaha HT receiver as well as excellent hi-fi quality Wharfedale and Mordaunt-short 5.1 speakers.   ;D



w/ regards to the mini-jacks, i think a standard for this is yet to be agreed upon. right now, kanya, kanya mga manufacturers dito.

hay convergence :) i always think that sound is more on the "physics" side of science. there isnt much physics in nanotech. maybe we should leave it at that :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 08, 2004 at 09:20 AM
MCE is still useful even without the EPG. you can still manually record TV shows(w/c any TV software does anyway). other features like online spotlight where you can download movies(that is if you have broadband),synching with your portable device and streaming medias anywhere in your house by using MCX are other stuff to consider in getting MCE.sa ngayon, walang plans ibenta ng retail ang MCE2005 e but you can buy one in newegg.com(and baka available na rin sa GH yun  ;D).

i used to be a TiVo user but hacking tivo is not that fun(im not that good in linux) and may subscription fee pa.i also considered using BeyondTV kaso ms-fanatic ako kaya nauwi sa MCE.  :)

by the way, i'm planning to upgrade my audio card for DVD-A and SACD playback but seems like M-Audio can only do analog or digital but not both(i read it in avsforum but forgot the link).i think Audigy 2 can do both.anyone have experience using Audigy cards?

Yeah, MCE can do all of those which is cool... I just feel sad that we dont have EPG data here to take advantage of a TIVO like system here. Another drawback I have about MCE is that its not that flexible when it comes to decoders and post processing.  You are basically stuck with what MS recommends.

MCE is available in a lot of on-line retailers, I almost bought one just to feed my curiosity on how it actually performs... I changed my mind because having no EPG will just frustrate me hheheh.  MS released MCE under OEM so you can purchase it along with other items.  You can find it on directron.com, pcalchemy.com  and lots more...

There arent much Soundcards that can playback SACD, I think out of all my google searches I only found one... I can't remember what brand it was though and only the Audigy and M-Audio supports DVD-A.  M-audio actually uses creative's DVD-A drivers to take advantage of  96khz capability of the M-Audio Revolution.

What do you mean by "M-Audio can only do analog or digital not both" ? do you mean output spdif and analaog simultaneously?  if thats the case even the Audigy can't out put digital and analog at the same time, you still have to choose what output you'd like digital or analog.  I have owned both M-Audio Revo and Audigy 2 ZS, for analog audio the M-Audio sounds so much better.  Spdif output, can barely tell the difference (since the audio is decoded by my AV Receiver).

If you want a more audiophile sounding system, I suggest using analog instead of spdif to take advantage of the soundcard's DAC.  I have 2 connections on my rig, I have one coax to the digital input and analog from the 6.1 output straight into the 6.1 direct input on my amp.  So I can just choose what system to use.

Also if you want to use several sound devices in one system, search google for STADS.exe  this is an EXCELLENT tray program that lets you switch audio devices on the fly! 

I have a Soundstorm Board which does DDlive, but I also have an Audigy ZS with I prefer for games, and I also have a Audiotrak Maya44 4in 4out USB interface for recording.  I use STADS.exe to switch audio devices.  If I want to play games, I switch to the Audigy, If I want to use DDlive, I switch to the Soundstorm Audio, if I want to do some music recording software I use my MAYA44.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Dec 08, 2004 at 10:22 AM
thanks! i'll try m-audio and just do an analog connection and siguro, by that time I could convince the wife to upgrade my aging kenwood htib  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:58 AM
RAID 0 is indeed a risky proposition. You lose one disk and you lost the data on both.

RAID 0 is a stripping configuration. Two drives acting as one!

Love them though. They are blazingly fast!!!!! I use two 300 SATA in RAID 0 configuration but I follow your advice YrNeh, I do external drive back-up. Two 300GB drives appear as 600GB.

RAID 1 is Mirror configuration. Anything on one drive is replicated in the other drive. Good redundancy. If you use two 300GB drives, it would appear not as 600GB but 300GB. For most application RAID 1 is sufficient.

For the best of both, use a RAID 10. Four drives- stripping and mirroring.

My previous machine was actually "donated" to my best friend who is a Cardiologist here in Chicago. He lost his Reading Station for his Echocardiograms.  Good his data was backed up on a network NAS!

We upped the ante in my old RAID 0 configuration and added two more 300 GB SATA's for a RAID 10. Four 300 GB SATA's with 16MB of buffer runs amazingly fast!! Images come up in his screen with details never before seen. Hopefully the better images and how motion of the valves in the heart is better rendered will aid my Cardiologist buddy to better diagnose his patients.

Now-to building another one.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 09, 2004 at 03:07 PM
RAID 0 is indeed a risky proposition. You lose one disk and you lost the data on both.

RAID 0 is a stripping configuration. Two drives acting as one!

Love them though. They are blazingly fast!!!!! I use two 300 SATA in RAID 0 configuration but I follow your advice YrNeh, I do external drive back-up. Two 300GB drives appear as 600GB.

RAID 1 is Mirror configuration. Anything on one drive is replicated in the other drive. Good redundancy. If you use two 300GB drives, it would appear not as 600GB but 300GB. For most application RAID 1 is sufficient.

For the best of both, use a RAID 10. Four drives- stripping and mirroring.

My previous machine was actually "donated" to my best friend who is a Cardiologist here in Chicago. He lost his Reading Station for his Echocardiograms.  Good his data was backed up on a network NAS!

We upped the ante in my old RAID 0 configuration and added two more 300 GB SATA's for a RAID 10. Four 300 GB SATA's with 16MB of buffer runs amazingly fast!! Images come up in his screen with details never before seen. Hopefully the better images and how motion of the valves in the heart is better rendered will aid my Cardiologist buddy to better diagnose his patients.

Now-to building another one.

Yeah, seems like it... anyway I only have 1 drive at the moment, so my raid0 is currently acting like a single drive..  I guess I'll start worrying about backups when I add another..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: levi on Dec 10, 2004 at 12:03 AM
jpadua,

   Do you write for T3? Its about HTPC and the author is a j padua.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 10, 2004 at 04:34 AM
Hi Levi,

yeah I wrote that for article for T3, pretty basic stuff, this thread has a lot more in depth discussions about HTPCs :) They liked it naman, got good reader response.. kind of like a starter lang to get them into it.

jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Dec 11, 2004 at 09:12 AM

Yo jpadua,

Congrats on the said article. By the way, what issue was that? 
Congrats again=)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 11, 2004 at 10:17 AM
Its the December Issue
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Dec 13, 2004 at 09:17 AM
hey bro jpadua or anybody, just a short q, i want to upgrade my pc audio so i can use properly my 5.1 pc speaker set. what SOUNDCARD can u recommend please ?  ;) -- thnks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 13, 2004 at 09:28 AM
hey bro jpadua or anybody, just a short q, i want to upgrade my pc audio so i can use properly my 5.1 pc speaker set. what SOUNDCARD can u recommend please ?  ;) -- thnks.

the audigy 2 has 5.1 preouts and is most probably available in gilmore. btw, what's your speakers?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 13, 2004 at 10:19 AM
hey bro jpadua or anybody, just a short q, i want to upgrade my pc audio so i can use properly my 5.1 pc speaker set. what SOUNDCARD can u recommend please ?  ;) -- thnks.

Hi Jerix! 

It really depends on your budget.  Actually to utilize 5.1  even the Audigy 1, or SB live 5.1 is good enough.  But if you are discriminating about Audio fidelity, M-Audio Revolution is good,  pag Gaming din ang concern mo, then Audigy 2 is good.  If you have on-board 5.1 audio sa motherboard mo ok din yun. Maybe the only difference you would hear with the low-end and the higher-end soundcards, is probably hiss at higher volumes (signal to noise ratio), at low volumes it wont make much of a difference unless you stick your ear to the speaker :)

I have a SBlive 5.1 DE na extra sa bahay, I actually posted it sa Tipid PC selling it for 2k.. It has spdif output so you can connect it to a digital amp when you need to. Let me know if you need it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Dec 13, 2004 at 04:47 PM
 Bumble / jpadua TY for your answers. :)

Bumble i just got the creative 5.1 speakers-- cheap but better than my previous one na tunog lata ng gatas. ;D

Sirs problem ko kasi this creative 5.1 speaker set requires 3 terminal output from the PC ( fronts/rear/center-sub) but my pc has only 2 (left and right). May i ask whether the 5.1 soundcard has 3 outputs already?

Sir jpadua, if i have the money ill pm u na lang, i hope ur soundcard would still be avlable.----  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 14, 2004 at 09:04 AM
Bumble / jpadua TY for your answers. :)

Bumble i just got the creative 5.1 speakers-- cheap but better than my previous one na tunog lata ng gatas. ;D

Sirs problem ko kasi this creative 5.1 speaker set requires 3 terminal output from the PC ( fronts/rear/center-sub) but my pc has only 2 (left and right). May i ask whether the 5.1 soundcard has 3 outputs already?

Sir jpadua, if i have the money ill pm u na lang, i hope ur soundcard would still be avlable.----  ;)

i think the audigy 2 has the outputs you need. even for a 7.1 setup :) you can check out the details at their website.

hope i helped :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 14, 2004 at 11:58 AM
Actually the most common option you have here locally is only SoundBlaster and Audigy cards both made by creative.   Bihira to find other soundcards without really looking hard for them.  Your choices would be.

SoundBlaster Live 5.1 Less than 4K
Audigy1 5.1 - about 4k +
Audigy2 7.1 - about 7K+

Most motherboards now already come with 5.1 built into the motherboard, so you wont need to by one if you motherboard has multi-channel audio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: CocoBoy on Dec 14, 2004 at 12:49 PM
jpadua, kung built in 6 channel sound sa mobo, d ba kailangan ko pa ng SPDIF module para me interface sa HT Receiver ko.  Am trying to find one for the past week and can't seen to get one?  Me alam ka ba?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 14, 2004 at 01:22 PM
if your on board audio has 3 stereo outs for FL/FR/RL/RR/C/SW, you can use y rca cables to connect to the 5.1 ins of your receiver. or use the digital output (coaxial) to the coaxial in of your receiver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 14, 2004 at 03:55 PM
Tama si pareng bumblebee :)

Most motherboards with integrated Multichannel audio only have the analog outputs (left-right, Surround L-R, Center / Sub) but a lot of newer motherboards have either a (digital coax) spdif out bracket or a Digital Coax on the rear panel.  Some have them on a jumper and you need to make your own Digital Coax to use it.

I'm not too familiar with the latest motherboards out today... but in choosing a motherboard make sure to check the following.

Multi-Channel Audio
Spdif out bracket or Digital output
USB 2.0
SATA (para future proof ka na)

If you will be upgrading to an AthlonXP and budget conscious then the AthlonXP 2500 is still the best bang for the buck. With an Nforce2 Mobo, running this at 200FSB is not very difficult with a good Heatsink Fan and you get an AthlonXP 3200 performance level with an AthlonXP 2500 price tag.

The best talaga are Nforce2 chipset based motherboards.  Look at the chip if its MCP or MCP-T (MCP-T has dolby digital encoding which will convert all analag output to digital).  MCP-T is great because even games that are multi channel, and also WMV-HD video that are multi-channel can be converted into AC-3 on the fly and straight into your reciever/amplifier for true Dolby Digital Surround.

Good Nforce2 MCP-T Motherboard suggestions:

ASUS A7N8X Deluxe Revision 2.0   - Ultra400, Firewire
Abit NF7-S Revision 2.0 - Ultra400, Firewire
MSI K7N2-Delta ILSR - Ultra400, Firewire
EPOX 8RDA+ (needs optional bracket for spdif output)

All these boards are 400FSB, USB2.0, MCP-T and have Digital Spdif Outputs

I'm not too familiar with Intel and A64s yet.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: CocoBoy on Dec 14, 2004 at 04:03 PM
Ala syang kasamang SPDIF out bracket talaga nung mabili ko sya 2001 eh. But I have an Audigy SE 5.1 na kaya lang gusto ko lang masubukan yung on board audio if any good.  Pwede ko pa mabenta yung card + 5.1 speakers ko then just connect to my receiver.

Anyway, thanks for the inputs.

http://www.aopen.ru/tech/techinside/spdif.htm
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 14, 2004 at 04:06 PM
Tama si pareng bumblebee :)

Most motherboards with integrated Multichannel audio only have the analog outputs (left-right, Surround L-R, Center / Sub) but a lot of newer motherboards have either a (digital coax) spdif out bracket or a Digital Coax on the rear panel.  Some have them on a jumper and you need to make your own Digital Coax to use it.

I'm not too familiar with the latest motherboards out today... but in choosing a motherboard make sure to check the following.

Multi-Channel Audio
Spdif out bracket or Digital output
USB 2.0
SATA (para future proof ka na)

If you will be upgrading to an AthlonXP

The best talaga are Nforce2 chipset based motherboards.  Look at the chip if its MCP or MCP-T (MCP-T has dolby digital encoding which will convert all analag output to digital).  MCP-T is great because even games that are multi channel, and also WMV-HD video that are multi-channel can be converted into AC-3 on the fly and straight into your reciever/amplifier

I'm not too familiar with Intel and A64s yet.




thanks sir jpadua. i use athlonxp too but im using a via chipset (kt400). the nforce2 is really my target kaso it's quite pricey. good thing my friendly pc store doesn't have one :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 14, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Ala syang kasamang SPDIF out bracket talaga nung mabili ko sya 2001 eh. But I have an Audigy SE 5.1 na kaya lang gusto ko lang masubukan yung on board audio if any good.  Pwede ko pa mabenta yung card + 5.1 speakers ko then just connect to my receiver.

Anyway, thanks for the inputs.

http://www.aopen.ru/tech/techinside/spdif.htm

Most motherboard audio are ok.. but not great.   Why not just use your Audigy SE 5.1 and use the spdif output from the audigy to your Amp/Reciever?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: CocoBoy on Dec 15, 2004 at 12:43 PM
I already have a decent 6.1 set-up in the living room and thinking of selling my audigy SE + Inspire na 5.1 kasi, mas mabilis ko cguro mabebenta kung package eh.

TNX
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Dec 20, 2004 at 03:39 AM
mga peeps saan ba available ang silverstone i mean iyong model na LC03 or LC03V  sa pinas. 

isa lang ang nakitaan ko noon sa GH eh 2nd floor di ko lang alam ang model na naka display nila.  Iyong store na puro acrylic ang case na binebenta.  I think it around 7K

wala kasi dito sa Qatar di pa uso ang HTPC dine. 

LC03
(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/box/LC03.jpg)


LC03V

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/box/LC03V.jpg)



TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:26 PM
nasagot na ng silverstone manufacturer ang tanong ko .

wala silang distributor sa pinas and naghahanap daw sila.  Baka me gustong maging distributor diyan , kontakin nyo na si Ms. Nicole Hung ng Taiwan.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:38 PM
QMAN,

Wala pa ngang official distributor and silverstone pero meron nagbebenta ng silverstone dito, sa GH Xtreme-Modz, they have different silverstone products like the LCO3 and LCO2 also some silverstone Accessories like the bay card reader and also their Silent PSU.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jdg on Dec 20, 2004 at 10:14 PM
@jpadua,
sir magkano bili nito doon sa htpc case niyo and saan store?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Dec 20, 2004 at 10:59 PM
QMAN,

Wala pa ngang official distributor and silverstone pero meron nagbebenta ng silverstone dito, sa GH Xtreme-Modz, they have different silverstone products like the LCO3 and LCO2 also some silverstone Accessories like the bay card reader and also their Silent PSU.

oonga kita ko na sya sa GH noon iyong tindahan na puro acrylic atx tower ang benta.  Ganda sana rin noon kanya lang  sa aking pananaw di pede sa htpc masyadong mailaw hehehe.  LC03 lang ang ata nakita ko doon sabi 7K.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 21, 2004 at 08:41 AM
yung silverstone na case na nasa picture na pinost ni qman, meron sa greenhills... sa virramall.  pangalang ng store is xtreme-modz. Yung LCO3, is 9,800 this case is the most ideal kasi full ATX and ATX PSU ang kasha dito. 2 5.25 at 2 3.5 na bay.   Only draw back ng case is yung exhaust fan nya is 60mm lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 21, 2004 at 06:39 PM
I have an Athlon XP 2000 using  ECS KT-600A as my motherboard which has a built in digital SPDIF output.  I'm using the digital SPDIF out connected to the Coaxial input of my receiver to get a digital 5.1 surround output. AYUS!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Dec 22, 2004 at 12:43 PM
ive been downloading the hidef clips from wmhd, natry nyo na ba? makes me want to setup an htpc!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Dec 24, 2004 at 07:11 AM
Merry Christmas po sa lahat :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 25, 2004 at 07:22 AM
ive been downloading the hidef clips from wmhd, natry nyo na ba? makes me want to setup an htpc!

yup! maganda talaga on a high definition display.  its nice to see on a monitor, but better on a BIG TV or Projector :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Dec 25, 2004 at 12:05 PM
Meron pa ngang porno na WMHD. Kitang-kita talaga!

Most RPTV although they have DVI inputs specifically states that it is not designed as PC input. I found out the same thing among JVC LCD TV's and plasma's.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Dec 28, 2004 at 07:09 AM
hehehe, where can we download sample clips o that?

hmmm, i think i read the same thing in a couple of reviews... the reviewers mistakenly assumed that the dvi input will allow them to connect a pc, but apparently for some hdtv displays this was not the case. it probably won't be too much of a prob if these same displays had vga input but few of them has 'em...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Jan 02, 2005 at 10:23 PM
Punta ko GH last 31 Dec at nagsasara na ang virra mall dahil due for renovation napala iyon hehehe
anyways bought that silverstone LC03 HTPC case kaso dina available ang psu nya na same brand.

then I didn't know na di pa available ang mga SLI Mobo sa pinas.  Hinahanap ko specifically ang A8N SLI mobo ng asus.

My other option sana ang elektroniksdepot kaso sarado pa rin ang site nila hanggang ngayon.

Ill try my luck sa gilmore or maga order ako sa Villman kaso 30-45 days naman ang waiting period. 

Sisi tuloy ako sana dumaan ako ng dubai bago ako umuwi.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 03, 2005 at 09:26 AM
I just bought a new 27" LCD TV... My HTPC detected it right away as a plug and play monitor using VGA.  DVI worked like a charm, just plugged it in and it was detected (even the chip was detected).  The display is razor sharp at 1280x720! finally naka 720p na rin ako when upscaling my DVDs.

This is the first time I tried DVI.. luckily this TV did not give me any headaches and was so simple to set up!  and the price is unbeatable compared to other LCD TVs by major brand names.

here are some pics:

(http://www.m2systech.com/syntax/syntax1.jpg)
(http://www.m2systech.com/syntax/syntax2.jpg)
(http://www.m2systech.com/syntax/syntax3.jpg)
(http://www.m2systech.com/syntax/syntax4.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jojitv on Jan 03, 2005 at 10:16 AM
WOW!!  :o  Gandya nyan ah. Congrats.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 03, 2005 at 10:44 AM
yeah im in love!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rubenpp on Jan 03, 2005 at 11:51 AM
@Qman

pls check this post @ tpc

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=171508

 Asus A8N-SLI mobo - In Stock Now!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 03, 2005 at 12:19 PM
@Qman

pls check this post @ tpc

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=171508

 Asus A8N-SLI mobo - In Stock Now!

Qman, si paren Woody pala yung nag bebenta eh! :) 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:45 PM
jpadua: nice! that's a syntax lcd tv right? i saw 'em at automatic centre's exhibit at glorietta back in dec... from what i recall, they're priced much lower than the competition... where you able to get a big discount from the srp?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:50 PM
yeah yun yung syntax :) all I can say is wow.... I would think that those LCDs would sell like hot cakes.  Its priced almost half of what the Big brand names cost.  Anyway the performance is good... great picture.

Actually I got it at the same price.  The only difference you get from the exhibit was 12-24 mos 0% interest :)

Its a very sharp monitor for PC, and of course great for DVDs! plug in a progressive scan DVD player ganda.   I saw it hooked up to a d-vhs player during the exhibit, hayop sya mag HD. 

i just had to get it... :D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Jan 04, 2005 at 03:00 AM
jpadua: congrats! post ka ng thorough review ha hehehe

i also saw them last year in taiwan, if i had known then that they were good sana nakakuha ko... that time kasi i was not familiar with the brand and i dismissed them as cheap lcd tvs since they were priced so low!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 04, 2005 at 07:24 AM
Yeah that was true the first time I saw it, I didnt know the brand either, but I was so intrigued by it, ang ganda kasi ng picture compared to other LCDs but I didnt know the brand... ang alam ko lang it is distributed by Kolin, which is also relatively new in the AV arena.  So I looked it up.  Apparently they do sell like hot cakes... in the states under the Syntax Olevia brand.  It's popular as the Cheap LCD alternative... performance wise its really good.  The only bad thing Ive read in reviews about the Olevia is the remote.  Based on what I've read, Kolin handle's the manufacturing, Syntax is the brand in the US, and they have one more buisness partner OEM (I forgot the name) who supplies LCDs to top Laptop and LCD Brands.  Take a look at www.syntaxgroups.com.

Ton's of inputs, VGA and DVI, Faroudja scaler... its really good value for money... I think.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: indie boi on Jan 04, 2005 at 05:05 PM
If it won't be a problem, can I ask how much you got the Syntax LCD tv?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:42 PM
thanks ruben and jay

muntik muntikan  ko ng bilhin kanina ang MSI K8 Neo2 platinum  sa Gilmore hirap pa naman pumarada doon.  PCI din ang video nya.  sabi kasi sa lahat ng pinagtanungan ko March pa raw ang labas ng A8N sli ng asus.  Buti na lang hehehe 

Wow wow Jay galeng ng bago mong toy...  congrats
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 05, 2005 at 08:55 AM
If it won't be a problem, can I ask how much you got the Syntax LCD tv?

@Qman,

Thanks thanks! gamit na gamit sakin yan... everyday hehhe sulit for me.

@Indi boi

Got it for 89K sa Automatic Centre sa ATC.  It may sound like a lot of money, pero considering how much other LCDs are (almost double the price) and you can use it as a real PC monitor for gaming and applications.  My pixelplus kasi before pang movies lang and TV,   hard to work with applications.  This LCD works just as good as a standard monitor.. wide pa! so you can use it for apps talaga aside for using it as a high definition display and TV.  Sulit!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: hubes on Jan 05, 2005 at 08:59 PM
hi jpadua.

does this syntal lcd tv have smaller size screen like 20 or 17 in.?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Jan 06, 2005 at 03:26 AM
My still messy HTPC Setup:

Intel P4 2.6c
2 x 256 MB DDR400
2 x 80Gb Seagate Harddisks
Samsung DVD-ROM Drive
Sony DRU-510ULX External DVD Writer
Inno3D GeForceFX 5600 128mb
1 x Jetway PCI-TV TV Tuner Card
Altec Lansing PowerCube 45.1 powered by onboard audio (I know, i know!!!)
Logitech RF wireless keyboard and mouse
Snapstream Firefly RF Remote
Driving a Samsung ST-50L2HX 50-inch DLP Widescreen TV via VGA port

Running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005

Watching WMV-HD content at 720p and 1080p is awesome!!! Doom 3 is also a sight to behold... :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/rene_canlas/IMG_2577.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 06, 2005 at 08:34 AM
My still messy HTPC Setup:

Intel P4 2.6c
2 x 256 MB DDR400
2 x 80Gb Seagate Harddisks
Samsung DVD-ROM Drive
Sony DRU-510ULX External DVD Writer
Inno3D GeForceFX 5600 128mb
1 x Jetway PCI-TV TV Tuner Card
Altec Lansing PowerCube 45.1 powered by onboard audio (I know, i know!!!)
Logitech RF wireless keyboard and mouse
Snapstream Firefly RF Remote
Driving a Samsung ST-50L2HX 50-inch DLP Widescreen TV via VGA port

Running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005

Watching WMV-HD content at 720p and 1080p is awesome!!! Doom 3 is also a sight to behold... :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/rene_canlas/IMG_2577.jpg)

Nice Setup!

By the way, where did you get your MCE2005?  and Firefly Remote?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58 PM
jpadua,

Thanks! Ganda rin ng LCD mo pare! :D

I downloaded MCE 2005 courtesy of an MSDN Subscription. It's vastly improved and more stable than MCE 2004.

I bought the Firefly remote online and had it delivered to my co-workers at our staffhouse.  The Firefly cost me $50, but it has a great range (I can control my setup from another room) and the button layout suits MCE 2005 very well.

I'm looking for a relatively inexpensive, horizontally oriented HTPC casing that will accept a full-sized ATX board and full-height expansion cards.  Do you have any recommendations? My complete requirements are listed in this thread:

http://www.pinoypc.net/modules/ipboard/index.php?s=&showtopic=30501&st=0&#entry452196

I'm currently interested in the Silverstone LC03 and the Cooler Master Cavalier 4 which you recommended in this thread, but I don't know where to source these here.  I saw the Silverstone sa Xtreme Modz Virra Mall before, kaya lang sarado na Virra Mall so I don't know where else to look. Baka may ideas ka?

Thanks!

Rene
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 06, 2005 at 05:12 PM
I'm in negotiations with silverstone, we might get cases from them.  Pero not sure yet... the problem is getting here, mahal kasi and duties and taxes pag mukhang malaki ang box.  Maybe in the next month or two pa kami mag import a few cases.

Ngayon since wala yun Xtreme Modz, I dont know where to find them.  Mag tanong tanong tayo sa pinoypc.net... malamang alam nila kung saan sila lumipat.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Jan 06, 2005 at 07:52 PM
Yeah, MCE can do all of those which is cool... I just feel sad that we dont have EPG data here to take advantage of a TIVO like system here. Another drawback I have about MCE is that its not that flexible when it comes to decoders and post processing.  You are basically stuck with what MS recommends.

While the lack of EPGs here in the Philippines is frustrating, It's not really a showstopper for me. I download the TV Shows that I like to watch from the web in DivX format using Bittorrent.  The advantage here is that I get to watch my favorite shows in HDTV format.  Using a remote with MCE 2005 makes navigating through my downloaded video collection a breeze.  I do not even have an MCE compatible tuner (I tried to buy several AverTV cards last month, but cancelled it when the retailer ran out of stock) so I cannot use the TV tuner, TV Recorder and EPG functions of MCE 2005.  There are many individuals hacking the MCE platform.  One group has managed to create an application that will convert the MS-DVR format used by MCE 2005 to MPEG2 for DVD burning.

Another thing I like about MCE is the way it does photo slideshows using panning and zooming techniques pioneered by Ray Burns.  Blew me and my friends away when we first saw it in action.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 07, 2005 at 08:31 AM
I have a Prolink PlayTV@7000 MPEG-2 Card... I think this is compatible with MCE2K5.  I've been wanting to test this card with MCE for a long time :)
Have you tried Meedio?  Its an alternative to MCE but it has a kinda steep learning curve to configure.  I bought a copy last yr.  Although the thing that sucks is that you have to buy the TV component of Meedio which is another cost.... why didnt they just bundled that thing together!

I'm experimenting now with DivX HD.   The new DivX 5.2.1 codec has a new HD profile.  I downloaded this free software called XMPEG, its pretty good! anyway I tried to direct convert a DVD to DivX HD and the picture looks great!  DivX HD automatically converts the material to 1280x720p and does some of its own resize sharpening.   I only managed to test a few seconds of Attack of the Clones... it looks really sharp!  Anyway I left my computer on today at home.  Converting the whole DVD now to HD I want to see if there really is a major difference, but it sure looks super clean based on my test conversion of a few seconds.  Will post back my results.  My only problem now is encoding AC-3 5.1 into the DivX file... I can't seem to find the setting, so far it will process AC-3 and convert it to stereo and encode it on the DivX file, I guess that will have to do for the time being until I figure it out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Jan 07, 2005 at 09:07 AM
One great feature of MCE 2005 is its ability to support 2 tuners. You can now watch TV while recording in the background!

I've tried Meedio before and found that the UI borrows heaviliy from MCE 2004. Unlike MCE, it's highly configurable though, which lends to the steep learning curve you mentioned.  My FireFly also came with similar software called Beyond Media Basic, which has MCE's basic features except for TV viewing, which requires purchasing BeyondTV.

Good luck with the AC-3 encoding.  I may need to ask you how you did it later on when I evolve to 5.1 :D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Jan 07, 2005 at 10:36 AM
I'm in negotiations with silverstone, we might get cases from them.  Pero not sure yet... the problem is getting here, mahal kasi and duties and taxes pag mukhang malaki ang box.  Maybe in the next month or two pa kami mag import a few cases.

Ngayon since wala yun Xtreme Modz, I dont know where to find them.  Mag tanong tanong tayo sa pinoypc.net... malamang alam nila kung saan sila lumipat.

Jpadua
wow good luck bro. its about time na me official distributor ang silverstone dito. 

rene
Ang extreme modz walang nilipatan eh by online ordering lang daw sila sa ngayon.

doon sa pricelist na binigay nila ang xm-online.com ang website pero parang patay ata ang site na iyon.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jan 07, 2005 at 09:03 PM
Here are some very nice cases.

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product-case.htm

I just don't about availability in the Philippines.

Personal favorites are the Coolermaster Stacker and Centurion 5 (you just have to replace the low power 350W PSU). 

http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product_class_include&files=chassis.html

These case have front wire mesh air intakes that really keep your PC temperature down!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Jan 09, 2005 at 11:43 AM
I have a Prolink PlayTV@7000 MPEG-2 Card... I think this is compatible with MCE2K5.  I've been wanting to test this card with MCE for a long time :)
Have you tried Meedio?  Its an alternative to MCE but it has a kinda steep learning curve to configure.  I bought a copy last yr.  Although the thing that sucks is that you have to buy the TV component of Meedio which is another cost.... why didnt they just bundled that thing together!

I'm experimenting now with DivX HD.   The new DivX 5.2.1 codec has a new HD profile.  I downloaded this free software called XMPEG, its pretty good! anyway I tried to direct convert a DVD to DivX HD and the picture looks great!  DivX HD automatically converts the material to 1280x720p and does some of its own resize sharpening.   I only managed to test a few seconds of Attack of the Clones... it looks really sharp!  Anyway I left my computer on today at home.  Converting the whole DVD now to HD I want to see if there really is a major difference, but it sure looks super clean based on my test conversion of a few seconds.  Will post back my results.  My only problem now is encoding AC-3 5.1 into the DivX file... I can't seem to find the setting, so far it will process AC-3 and convert it to stereo and encode it on the DivX file, I guess that will have to do for the time being until I figure it out.

Hi sir jay,

Okay po yun exploration nyo ah. You are converting the dvd to DivX HD--> for viewing purposes only on your pc right? Does the software includes converting a 720 x 480 avi file/mpeg2 file to HD 1280x720?

Thank you very much! More questions to come:)

onie.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 10, 2005 at 08:37 AM
Hi sir jay,

Okay po yun exploration nyo ah. You are converting the dvd to DivX HD--> for viewing purposes only on your pc right? Does the software includes converting a 720 x 480 avi file/mpeg2 file to HD 1280x720?

Thank you very much! More questions to come:)

onie.

Hi Onie,

If you havea file converter you can convert anything to DivX HD as long as you have the DivX 5 pro 5.2.1 codec :) maraming software out there on the web thats under the GNU licence, so its free.

DVD2AVI (free)
XMPEG (free)

yeah I want to be able to back up my DVDs to my HD, I want to back it up as DivX HD para maganda.  I do this with several steps.

1. DVD Decrypter to Rip the DVD to your Hard disk
2. DVD2AVI to convert to DivX HD and extract AC-3 audio into 2 separate files.
3. AVI Mux Gui to combine the AVI video file with the AC-3 file into one AVI.

Now all you have to do to play it back is to install an AC-3 decoder (which you can download from the web for free)

Now you can watch DivX HD with Multichannel sound!
Title: HTPC remote control - does anybody need one?
Post by: jpadua on Jan 10, 2005 at 09:57 AM
Hello my fellow HTPC enthusiasts!

I've got some extra HTPC Imon remotes that I need to sell off...  baka anybody is interested PM me.

Control almost anything via keyboard and set them on any button on the remote.  This is a smart remote, meaning button mappings will change depending on what application is in focus. Control Windows Media Player, Winamp, PowerDVD, WinDVD...anything that can be controlled via keyboard shortcuts.  This remote also has a built in joystick controller which allows you to control your mouse from a distance.

here are some pics to give you an idea
http://www.ahanix.com/detail/imon.html

Reviews:
Design Technica
http://reviews.designtechnica.com/review1616_main8088.html

I only have 4 left :) let me know guys!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Jan 11, 2005 at 11:12 AM
hi jpadua and other experts here, i want my pc to have digital out, will i need to buy something here?

Mine is intel pentium 4 2.8 / asus p4pez-x 800 / 128 mb radeon power color 9200 se/ 2 x 256 ddr 400 / 80 gb seagate -- tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 11, 2005 at 11:22 AM
hi jpadua and other experts here, i want my pc to have digital out, will i need to buy something here?

Mine is intel pentium 4 2.8 / asus p4pez-x 800 / 128 mb radeon power color 9200 se/ 2 x 256 ddr 400 / 80 gb seagate -- tnx

your onboard audio should have a digital out. most probably coaxial. pro kung wala, you can avail of sound cards that have them. i only know about the more popular ones such as the audigy's. i'm sure mr jpadua can give you better recommendations.

hope i helped.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44 AM
Hi Jerix,

I know the Asus P4PE Z has spdif output... check the I/O panel of your motherboard and look if you see what seems to look like an RCA connector. That should be your spdifi output.  Hook up a digital coax (or an rca cable) to it and connect it to the digital coax input of your amp (which should also look like an RCA connector).  On your amp, select digital input.  Make sure that the digital coax you connected to is the the one your amp is going to use.

On your PC open the windows mixer, there should be an advanced button.  Click on advanced and you should be able to see a checkbox that says digital out.  Place a check and close the mixer.

Your PC should be able to output 2channel audio digitally to your amp.  Now on your Software DVD Player, go to the audio tab and select spdif, this would send AC-3 or DTS through your motherboard's digital output to your amp, and your amp will be able to decode Dolby digital or DTS.

hope this helps.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 11, 2005 at 11:52 AM
Hi sir jay,

Okay po yun exploration nyo ah. You are converting the dvd to DivX HD--> for viewing purposes only on your pc right? Does the software includes converting a 720 x 480 avi file/mpeg2 file to HD 1280x720?

Thank you very much! More questions to come:)

onie.

Onie,

I forgot to add, the DivX codec has its own config, when selecting the DivX HD profile, there is a setting somewhere ther for video resize, select 1280x720 for 720p.

Actually my PC is connected to an LCD HDTV... so I can watch them on a bigger screen but yeah its still being run on a PC.  I know there are DivX  HD stand alone players, but they are quite few....  like this one for example http://www.divx.com/hardware/detail.php?p=34  This can hook up to an HDTV so you can watch DivX HD.   Nice thing about it is that the output file is so small it can fit onto a DVD-R! 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Jan 11, 2005 at 12:16 PM
sir Jay thnx for your advise -- ill try to explore my pc tonight to discover those things u said...  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ADM202E on Jan 11, 2005 at 06:55 PM

I'm experimenting now with DivX HD.   The new DivX 5.2.1 codec has a new HD profile.  I downloaded this free software called XMPEG, its pretty good! anyway I tried to direct convert a DVD to DivX HD and the picture looks great!  DivX HD automatically converts the material to 1280x720p and does some of its own resize sharpening.   I only managed to test a few seconds of Attack of the Clones... it looks really sharp!  Anyway I left my computer on today at home.  Converting the whole DVD now to HD I want to see if there really is a major difference, but it sure looks super clean based on my test conversion of a few seconds.  Will post back my results.  My only problem now is encoding AC-3 5.1 into the DivX file... I can't seem to find the setting, so far it will process AC-3 and convert it to stereo and encode it on the DivX file, I guess that will have to do for the time being until I figure it out.

Bro, I havent tried this, but am really curious........how long does it take to rip DVD to DivX HD?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:46 AM
depends on the quality of the compression, if you choose fast mga 1hr pero mas maraming compression, pag slow.. this is the best pero super tagal.. you have to leave it encoding for almost 5hrs pag standard, mga 2hrs siguro
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Jan 13, 2005 at 02:35 PM
One group has managed to create an application that will convert the MS-DVR format used by MCE 2005 to MPEG2 for DVD burning.


TMPeg Express can convert dvr-ms files directly to mpeg,avi or wmv. i always use dCut (http://www.inseattle.org/~dan/Dcut.htm) to archive recorded SDTVs, TMpeg for recorded HDTV shows
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 13, 2005 at 02:57 PM
TMPeg Express can convert dvr-ms files directly to mpeg,avi or wmv. i always use dCut (http://www.inseattle.org/~dan/Dcut.htm) to archive recorded SDTVs, TMpeg for recorded HDTV shows

Hi GM,

Where do you record your HDTV Streams from?  Yeah TMpeg is cool...   may registration nga lang or wala ba?... I like Xmpeg cause its free :)  I love freeware... the good ones that is.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08 PM
+

My simple pc .

-p4 2.6
-asus p4v8x-x
-radeon ati 9200 128mb with dvi out
-512mb ddr ram
- sony dvd-cd-rw
-120gb 7200rpm
-yamaha cd-rw external


 speakers
nht 7.1  satellites
velodyne spl1200 subs
denon 3802 av receiver :o

or

boston acoustics  2.1 ba635 8)




monitor

36'' sony xbr 800 via dvi input  >:D

or 

17'' aoc lcd monitor  ;D



thanks..... peace man O0

-doughn



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Jan 14, 2005 at 05:13 PM
Can anyone recommend a good computer dealer shop that is experienced in configuring HTPC? And what price am I looking at if the setup include DVI output (if available na) and digital optical audio output?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Jan 15, 2005 at 09:44 AM

Hello,

Hi sir jay, thank you very much for your reply on the personal message i have sent you. This is a little bit out of topic, i just want to ask if there is anyone here using progressive scanning of there dvd player? I tried connecting my kebao 6089 dvd player which has an input for progressive scanning as well to our tv. But when i tried watching, it appears scrambled using a progressive scan and color red using an interlace configuration. Related ba sya sa bala ng dvd? or cable? gumagana ba talaga yung progressive scan na yun? i believe mas malinaw sya dapat compare to s-video and video-rca.


Thanks everyone.
Onie.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47 AM
Hello,

Hi sir jay, thank you very much for your reply on the personal message i have sent you. This is a little bit out of topic, i just want to ask if there is anyone here using progressive scanning of there dvd player? I tried connecting my kebao 6089 dvd player which has an input for progressive scanning as well to our tv. But when i tried watching, it appears scrambled using a progressive scan and color red using an interlace configuration. Related ba sya sa bala ng dvd? or cable? gumagana ba talaga yung progressive scan na yun? i believe mas malinaw sya dapat compare to s-video and video-rca.


Thanks everyone.
Onie.

Hi Onie,

Malamang cable yan :) have you tried other cables?  and yes if your TV has provision for progressive scan and your player has progressive scan din.. mas clear yan... 480p kasi.. as compared to s-video which is 480i

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Jan 15, 2005 at 10:08 AM
Salamat po sa reply sir jay ,

I havent tried out other cable, i just began experimenting kagabe, when a friend of mine told that the input R G B, Yca etc something like that is the progressive scan. All along, akala ko, progressive scan is the VGA output compatible for the pc and the HDTV. Try ko bumili ng magandang cable. Talaga bang RCA lang ang ginagamet duon?
Does all dvd support a progressive scan? or meron bala ng dvd na okay ang progressive scan meron Hindi? o Hindi lang talaga related on what movie im watching.

Thanks again,
Onie.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 15, 2005 at 11:06 AM
Salamat po sa reply sir jay ,

I havent tried out other cable, i just began experimenting kagabe, when a friend of mine told that the input R G B, Yca etc something like that is the progressive scan. All along, akala ko, progressive scan is the VGA output compatible for the pc and the HDTV. Try ko bumili ng magandang cable. Talaga bang RCA lang ang ginagamet duon?
Does all dvd support a progressive scan? or meron bala ng dvd na okay ang progressive scan meron Hindi? o Hindi lang talaga related on what movie im watching.

Thanks again,
Onie.

Wala sa Disc yan its in the player lang.  Baka settings din ng player mo... there should be a setup page where you can select  Progressive scan. Also make sure na yung setting ng DVD player mo naka YUV or YCbCr not RGB para tamang signal ang lalabas sa component output mo... try again before changing the cable baka video output settings lang sa player mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Jett on Jan 15, 2005 at 09:04 PM
I saw the Syntax LCD at Gateway mall today. Maganda! I was really really tempted to buy one on the spot - but of course with this being a major purchase,  I would need the opinion of those who already own this. I don't have an HTPC (yet) but my PC system is more than capable .

jay, I've never seen these 16:9 screens side by side with "normal" TVs. How does the size compare to a 25" TV? Also, how's the quality if you have it hooked up to cable tv. I would think there would be some black bars on the sides so that the image is shown as 4:3.

For the benefit of everyone (including Hubes who asked if there was a 20" model), I am posting the prices that I got:

SLC-2083 (20") - Php 44,995
SLC-2706 (27") - Php 89,995
SLC-302C (30") - Php 129,995

They had another model which has PIP. In the demo unit that they had, the screen was split in half vertically with the two halves showing different channels)

KLT-2701 (27") Php 114, 995
KLT-3001 (30") Php 154, 995

- Jett

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 16, 2005 at 12:03 AM
I saw the Syntax LCD at Gateway mall today. Maganda! I was really really tempted to buy one on the spot - but of course with this being a major purchase,  I would need the opinion of those who already own this. I don't have an HTPC (yet) but my PC system is more than capable .

jay, I've never seen these 16:9 screens side by side with "normal" TVs. How does the size compare to a 25" TV? Also, how's the quality if you have it hooked up to cable tv. I would think there would be some black bars on the sides so that the image is shown as 4:3.

For the benefit of everyone (including Hubes who asked if there was a 20" model), I am posting the prices that I got:

SLC-2083 (20") - Php 44,995
SLC-2706 (27") - Php 89,995
SLC-302C (30") - Php 129,995

They had another model which has PIP. In the demo unit that they had, the screen was split in half vertically with the two halves showing different channels)

KLT-2701 (27") Php 114, 995
KLT-3001 (30") Php 154, 995

- Jett



Hi Jett,

Actually before I purchased the TV, I tested it with a DVD and with their D-VHS player.  The quality of the output is dependent on the input. DVD was excellent, D-VHS was absolutley stunning - this is real High Definition Video.  Now the reason why I did not include cable TV as a deciding factor because cable reception varies a lot,  your actual cable connection, connector, even the cable carrier.  My cable TV is not really clear to begin with so I was not expecting much from the Syntax. Also unlike CRT Displays LCDs dont have real blacks (slightly grayish black).  This is a known fact of LCDs and of course CRTs look better.  Some CRT TVs have special settings to improve cable TV and analog sources.  The syntax has Brightness, Contrast, Sharpness, and Noise Reduction. There are 4 picture presets, Nature, Bright, Soft and User.  4 levels of backlighting.       Basically the Syntax is a monitor your output is dependent on your input.  With that said, my cable TV viewing is not so great, but im assuming its my cable connection that has the problem and not the TV since, DVD and PC output is superb.  As soon as you plug it into your computer, it was automatically detected as a plug and play monitor.  The Syntax also also has stereo speakers and has an option for SRS. It has 4 Audio presets, News, Music, Movie and User.  You can enable and disable speakers and headphone output.

About 4:3 and 16:9, you can select which aspect ratio you want.  Cable TV is 4:3 so if you choose 16:9 aspect ratio, the picture will be horizonally streched.  If you choose 4:3 you will get black bars on the sides.  There is a special function called panorama which alters the picture by displaying TV as 16:9 and having more strech on the sides of the image, the center of the image does not look too streched.  Zoom mode, crops out the top and bottom of a 4:3 aspect and displays it fullscreen 16:9.

Regarding the more expensive KLT models, these have dual tuners, you can watch 2 channels simultaneously.  But realistically would you watch 2 channels at once? and also the SLC models have a lower dot pitch... (the lower the better).  I'd still go with the SLC models.  They look slick too.

Comparing size, I did compare it with my 29" 4:3 set.  and this 27" Wide is definately bigger by... A LOT.  Especially for widescreen anamorphic DVDs the width maximizes the picture.  On my 29" 4:3 the DVD image is way smaller since there are black bars on the top and bottom.

As for my Opinion, I think of it this way.. its like I bought a TV and a huge PC monitor at an unbeatable price.  PC monitor because you can do PC resolutions up to 1280x720.  You can really work with this as a monitor, you can use apps you would normaly use on a regular PC monitor.  Before I bought this, I was using a 29" Pixel plus, although it was great for watching movies, I simply could not use it productively with PC apps since my resolution is limited to 720x540p, anything higher would be interlaced and would not have readable text.

Playing games is Awesome!!! Half Life 2, Chronicles of Riddick, Battle for Middle earth! HAYOP.   Widescreen gaming is a whole new experience.  I want to try DOOM3 with this, there is a widescreen hack for it! :)

Pros:
1. Good DVD Progressive scan output.
2. Excelent HTPC output via VGA or DVI (currently using DVI)
3. HD content is very sharp
4. Doubles as a TV and a PC monitor since you can work as close as 1-2Feet away from the LCD without radiation
5. PC compatible resolutions VGA, SVGA, XGA, WXGA
6. Multiple inputs: Composite, S-video, 2 separate Component inputs (autosensing progressive/interlaced),VGA and DVI inputs. 
7. You can't beat the price!

Cons:
1. Cable TV looks fuzzy and a bit washed out (this could be due to my cable)
2. VGA and DVI cannot be used simultaneously. (although you can connect to PC's to it, you can only use them one at a time)
3. Remote control's response time is a bit slow.  (Kolin is replacing my remote control unit)
4. Sleep timer is only up to 30 Minutes

My verdict:

TV viewing is normal, nothing spectacular. Watching DVDs Widescreen and using as a PC monitor is excellent. Since it doubles as a PC monitor and a TV you really get value for your money.  Compared to other LCDs with the same specs the price is unbeatable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Mouldingo on Jan 16, 2005 at 09:40 AM
 Hello guys, I need tech help! My current setup in P4 3.2 g on a MSI NEO board with SPDIF and 1 g of RAM, Video card is 6800 XT Nvidia. I am using Thearter Tek 2.0 w/ ffdshow. My problem is the irritating stuterring which occurs, especially when viewing video sources and cartoons. I tried ReClock, but it is imcompatible with my video card. Also how do you upscale without appearing like it was zoomed up image? My monitor is the 55" PDP Hitachi 55MA550 using DVI-D set at 1024 x 768.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 17, 2005 at 01:14 AM
Hello guys, I need tech help! My current setup in P4 3.2 g on a MSI NEO board with SPDIF and 1 g of RAM, Video card is 6800 XT Nvidia. I am using Thearter Tek 2.0 w/ ffdshow. My problem is the irritating lag which occurs, especially when viewing video sources and cartoons. I tried ReClock, but it is imcompatible with my video card. Also how do you upscale without appearing like it was zoomed up image? My monitor is the 55" Hitachi 55MA550 using DVI-D set at 1024 x 768.

What version of FFdshow are you using? There are other builds that are optimized for SSE and SSE2.  Also when resizing, you should be careful not to oversharpen the image.  Its all a matter of personal preference... some people use lancoz resize. On my old setup using a Pixelplus CRT Lancoz looked great, now on an LCD screen I prefer Area for resize its a bit softer but looks better.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Mouldingo on Jan 17, 2005 at 08:37 AM
Hello Jay,

   I'm using the 20041012 release of ffshow. After going though AVS forum and HTPC news, I see that the stuttering problem isn't an isolated problem. I couldn't find a specific fix in the forums :'( :'(.I went to Listening Room Megamall to compare my HTPC with their DVD player, especially the Pioneer DV-969AVi. We agreed that the PQ is only comparable to a 420p picture using the Theater Tek.  :-[ :-[ He was using HDMI while I used DVI. How did you set yours up to beat the 1080i quality of HDMI dvd player?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 17, 2005 at 08:59 AM
Hello Jay,

   I'm using the 20041012 release of ffshow. After going though AVS forum and HTPC news, I see that the stuttering problem isn't an isolated problem. I couldn't find a specific fix in the forums :'( :'(.I went to Listening Room Megamall to compare my HTPC with their DVD player, especially the Pioneer DV-969AVi. We agreed that the PQ is only comparable to a 420p picture using the Theater Tek.  :-[ :-[ He was using HDMI while I used DVI. How did you set yours up to beat the 1080i quality of HDMI dvd player?  :o :o :o

It all depends...

When you connected to the TV what resolution were you using?  It's always best to set your Hardware Video resolution to the Display's native resolution.  What kind of TV did you connect to? 

When using FFDshow, I resize the picture to 1280x720 (if the display device is 720p) so I get 1:1 pixel mapping and my Video resolution is also 1280x720.   On bigger displays, sharpen the image only enough to highlight little things like cloth, fabrics, texture I personally use a setting of 12 unsharp mask.  Use Denoise 3D to make the image smoother with less grain chroma .05 luma .05 time.5 HQ.  Lancoz resize 1280x720 using tap 2 chroma 0 luma 1.5 This gives me the best PQ on my setup.  I'm using Zoomplayer with WinDVD Codecs.

Without postprocessing, your PQ can equal a high-end DVI/HDMI player.  Both doing hardware scaling to the display.  The advantage you have over that would be the power to tweak your post processing to get more detail out of your video.   

There is an FFDshow build thats really good, I forgot which one but its not the latest one... look for a post in HTPC news about an FFDshow build that allows users to scale to 1920x1080 using Lancoz tap10 with CPU at 50%   this is the fast one... personally I dont use this one simply because mine is working well with my setuo (the latest build of FFDshow).

You can not really use a 480p source and expect equal PQ as HD streams or Video, even though your video output is 720p/1080i your source is still the DVD which is 480p.  You have to tweak your FFDshow settings to get more detail, which at the correct viewing distance would look almost or really close to High Definition.   

Are you a member of HTPCnews? I'm active in those forums, I designed that website with Brad about a yr and a half ago (Brad is the owner of HTPC news).  My user name there is also jpadua. 

See you there too!

Jay 

By the way about your stuttering problem,  it could be your version of FFDshow.. try other builds.  Your setup seems to have trouble video material, I used to have this problem but that was when I was using an AthlonXP 2500.  Fixed it though with another build of FFDshow.  Also had this problem with a P3.2, I turned off Hyperthreading, that seemed to to the trick.  I though it was ok to not use Hyperthreading since I didnt have any applications that use Hyperthreading in the first place.  Also try other software DVD players.  I never really tried Theatertek 2.0 simply because it was really expensive...  Zoomplayer just gave me more options, using different combination of video and audio codecs... ZP is only $24.  The one advantage i saw before with Theatertek is that it was fullscreen only, but you can do that with ZP too by using a switch zoomplayer.exe /LOCKFS  this will lock ZP in fullscreen mode, also TT2.0 only allows you to use Nvidia codecs. 

I never had a chance to try a 6800 ive always used ATI, check AVS Forums, I believe I saw a thread on the 6800 having problems with video, as compared to the 6600GT.  checkout this thread from 6800 users on AVS forums you might find a solution here also
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=441351

Another possible source of the problem might be scaling.  I know the 6800 has a setting to select overscan, desktop (with start button) and underscan through the drivers, I believe using anything other than overscan would result to stuttering because of scaling issues.  If I get overscan at the correct frequency settings I always leave it at that because that is as native as i can get resulting to no incorrect scaling.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 17, 2005 at 09:02 AM
Mouldingo,

Oh by the way why dont you post a picture of your setup here too!  What HTPC case are you using?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bravoexo on Jan 17, 2005 at 05:08 PM
Jay,

Thanks for the impression.  And I saw it on sale at Glorietta... and I wanted it too... he he he... unfortunately, I already own a 17" LCD TV and dual it w/ a Viewsonic 17 CRT... my problem is what to do with these if I get that 27 LCD TV.  ^_^

My biggest reservation is actually the resolution. I run my rig at 1280x1024... (and I don't do DVD nor TV on my rig... that job, includinging Xbox and PS2 gaming is reserved for my 55" Philips RPTV.) and I feel at 27" I think I should at least get 1920x1080 native ^_^  or maybe it's just me.  he he he...

The price is attractive, I can say that much... easily affordable if I say so myself...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bravoexo on Jan 17, 2005 at 05:13 PM
Question though... There are 2 YPrPb inputs right?  Or is one the DVI/VGA port?  And do these ports automatically switch to YCbCr? (Need to know coz of this insane thing Sony did w/ the new GT4 game)   Also what did you mean about the DVI and VGA ports?  Don't you or can't you put two different sources, and just switch over w/ the remote or the on display buttons? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Mouldingo on Jan 17, 2005 at 09:41 PM
Mouldingo,

Oh by the way why dont you post a picture of your setup here too!  What HTPC case are you using?

Thanks Jay for your input. My HTPC case is the Siverstone LC01, got it from Xtreme Modz. It was connected to the (ahem) 55" Plasma of Hitachi. You're right with the price of TheaterTek, quite painful. But the nice thing about it is you can adjust the custom resize of the screen per DVD. And you can set it up directly with ffshow. Monitor resolution is set at DVI with 1024 x 768. Can't get any higher than that. I have another computer now with HTPC config. The other one has the Themaltake Tsunami Dream Silver case. This one runs a AMD 64 3.0 g, 512 mb ram, ATI 9800SE 128 mb connected to a 19" Samsung 193P LCD set at 1280x1024. Becuz of this stuttering thing, I tried using WinDVD 6 on both machines. Both still stutters but not as bad as the TheaterTek. I turned off ffshow and they still stutter. Is there a one off program that can help me? :'( :'( :'(


(http://img13.exs.cx/img13/2041/resizeofresizeofimg05099ex.jpg)

(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/8230/resizeofimg05201la.jpg)

(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/4640/resizeofimg05262vp.jpg)


(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/7205/resizeofimg05295lv.jpg)



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 18, 2005 at 02:36 AM
Question though... There are 2 YPrPb inputs right?  Or is one the DVI/VGA port?  And do these ports automatically switch to YCbCr? (Need to know coz of this insane thing Sony did w/ the new GT4 game)   Also what did you mean about the DVI and VGA ports?  Don't you or can't you put two different sources, and just switch over w/ the remote or the on display buttons? 

Hi Bravoexo,

Yeah its really a cool deal, 1920x1080 might be too high a desktop resolution for me, I very comfy with 1280x720 :)   yup there are 2 Component Inputs (2 YPrPb), both can accept 480p, 720p, 1080i (possible 540p).  So I believe they both auto switch.  I have yet to test it but it does say on the label for both inputs HDTV IN (hdtv is technically YCbCr).  About DVI and VGA port, these are two separate connectors, but you can only use them one at a time.  I tried connected 2 PCs to it, on on the VGA port the other on the DVI port.  When I turn on PC1 with VGA I get a signal... when I turn off PC1 and use PC2 on DVI I get a signal.  If I turn them both on, I only get signal from PC2 on DVI.  So you cant have two devices running simultaneously and switch via remote.  Convenient enough to have 2 devices hooked up and no need to switch cables but one device has to be off. I'll use it soon if I get myself a MAC mini! :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 18, 2005 at 02:49 AM
Thanks Jay for your input. My HTPC case is the Siverstone LC01, got it from Xtreme Modz. It was connected to the (ahem) 55" Plasma of Hitachi. You're right with the price of TheaterTek, quite painful. But the nice thing about it is you can adjust the custom resize of the screen per DVD. And you can set it up directly with ffshow. Monitor resolution is set at DVI with 1024 x 768. Can't get any higher than that. I have another computer now with HTPC config. The other one has the Themaltake Tsunami Dream Silver case. This one runs a AMD 64 3.0 g, 512 mb ram, ATI 9800SE 128 mb connected to a 19" Samsung 193P LCD set at 1280x1024. Becuz of this stuttering thing, I tried using WinDVD 6 on both machines. Both still stutters but not as bad as the TheaterTek. I turned off ffshow and they still stutter. Is there a one off program that can help me? :'( :'( :'( I currently decommisioned the Silverstone and got the Denon 3910s from AVD in Shang.

Mouldingo.... NICE!!! hey we have the same case right now... since I only have one PC now, I transferred the guts of my HTPC from the Kanam-HT400 to a new Tsunami Dream... I can see you are using a Thermaltake tower... I'm using naman the Aerocool Tower with dual Fan config push pull.  My only gripe about this case is that I find it loud! heheh I want to change all the thermaltake fans to Akasas and see if I can lower the audible noise from the fans.. pero feeling ko PSU ko yung maingay... currently using an HEC475 PowerOP. 

(http://images4.fotopic.net/?iid=ysyyvp&outx=600&oq=0)

My Current Hardware config

AthlonXP 2500 @ 200FSB = 3200
Aerocool HT101 heatpipe with dual Fan
512 DDR 400 Apacer
MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR - with MCP-T soundstorm
9800Pro with Artic VGA silencer
160GB Seagate SATA

Using spdif out to a Marantz SR4300 6.1 speaker config.  I just love DolbyDigital Live! 5.1 gaming via spdif is awesome.
DVI output to Syntax 27" LCD @ 1280x720p

I plan to build a new HTPC using an A64 this time... I'll put my Kanam HT-400 back into my setup :)

I'm really intrigued by your stuttering problem... could it be your video drivers?  with that much horsepower (P3.2 and A64) tapos no FFDshow pa, you should have no stuttering at all.   Do get stuttering if you play a DVD from the hard drive?  Try backing up a DVD on the hard drive and playing it with winDVD or TT... if there are no stuttering it might be your DVD rom... if there is still stuttering.. its got something to do with your codecs.... try to uninstall TT, then erase the codecs themselves manually.   Try removing your soundcard and test it again and see if you get stutters without your sound card... we really have to test one by one to isolate the problem.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Mouldingo on Jan 18, 2005 at 07:17 AM
Thanks Jay! Will try that.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 18, 2005 at 04:55 PM
Anybody need DVI to Component Adaptors for HDTV  PM me, I have a few stocks left.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bravoexo on Jan 18, 2005 at 05:39 PM
Thanks Jpadua.

Matagal na pagiisip isip na naman...haay...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Jan 19, 2005 at 02:01 PM
on going Im building 2

1st rig (tested once)
Silverstone LC03
1 gig DDR400
Asus K8V SE Deluxe
80 Gig & 160 Gig SATA
Innod 3D 6600 GT 128mb
Athlon 64 3200+
LG Super DVD writer 16x
Hex (something forgot) 475 watts

2nd rig
Asus A8n SLI
SATA 250 Gig
X600 powercolor ATI
iyong ibang parts wala pa di available sa pinas, like socket 939 Athlon 64 FX etc.... trying to buy sa labas. 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 19, 2005 at 02:28 PM
on going Im building 2

1st rig (tested once)
Silverstone LC03
1 gig DDR400
Asus K8V SE Deluxe
80 Gig & 160 Gig SATA
Innod 3D 6600 GT 128mb
Athlon 64 3200+
LG Super DVD writer 16x
Hex (something forgot) 475 watts

2nd rig
Asus A8n SLI
SATA 250 Gig
X600 powercolor ATI
iyong ibang parts wala pa di available sa pinas, like socket 939 Athlon 64 FX etc.... trying to buy sa labas. 



WOW droool... astig ako still waiting for cash... 

How do you plan to cool your rig? what HSF are you using? 


buo ako ng isang HTPC ulit (soon soon soon! excited na ako)

Aristec HT-400 Case (Black)
A64 3200
DFI Lanparty
Corsair 1GB
6600GT or 9800Pro still deciding
Samsung DVD-rom quiet drive
Akasa PAXPower Ultra quiet PSU (18db) 460W dual 12volt rails!
Aerocool HT101 Superconductor HSF (silent din pero ok yung cooling)
Artic VGA Silencer (kung ATI) or Coolermaster coolviva
200GB Seagate SATA (still looking for Samsung Spinpoint <- these are ultra quiet)

the wait is agonizing.. I want to build build build!! hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Jan 19, 2005 at 02:49 PM
thanks j, mainly sayo ko nakuha ang idea to build an HTPC eh hehehehe..  Punta sana ko ng tubes eh mas malakas ang dating ng thread mo ehehe

puro stock lang ang gamit na to cool my rig like the HSF na kasama ng AMD 64 processor for the meantime sa unang rig then hanap hanap sa net at basa basa sa mga recommendation nyo at ng ibang forum kung anong the best HSF. Okey naman ang temp eh mother board is ranging 36-38 degree then little less than 40 ang processor.   Di ko lang natest maigi dahil pinabalik na uli ako ng trabaho

Hassle lang medyo ang Silvestone LC03 dahil sa kapal at dami ng mga wires ng PSU ko crowded na ang loob.  Tinanggal ko pa ang isang part nya para magkasya lang sa ilalim ng optical/hard drives sa tabi ng mobo ang mga wires na di gamit 

Talagang problema lang sa pinas availability ng mga gusto nating parts. 





Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Jan 19, 2005 at 06:13 PM
Questions:

1. The DTS soundtracks in DVD movies or DiVx files are not being decoded at all, what additional codec(s) or filter program(s) do I need to install to decode the soundtrack properly? AC3filter is useful for decoding DD5.1 in DiVx files but not DTS.

2. How and what software can I use to make or force an anamorphic (16:9) signal output from the video output of a graphics card connected to a 4:3 TV (through S-Video)? I have tried the trial version of PowerStrip and its quite frustrating to use.

3. Is it possible to take advantage of the postprocessing features of a HTPC when used in conjunction with an outdated 4:3 Standard Definition TV not even capable of any Progressive Scanning?


Current System:

Laptop: Compaq 2800
Specs-
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Mobile 1.8 Ghz
RAM: 512 MB PC266
VID: Ati Mobile Radeon 7500
Screen: 15" LCD UXGA (1600x1200 native res.)

WinDvD 6
PowerStrip Trial Version
Windows XP Home Edition
FFdshow
Zoom Player
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 20, 2005 at 09:10 AM
Questions:

1. The DTS soundtracks in DVD movies or DiVx files are not being decoded at all, what additional codec(s) or filter program(s) do I need to install to decode the soundtrack properly? AC3filter is useful for decoding DD5.1 in DiVx files but not DTS.

2. How and what software can I use to make or force an anamorphic (16:9) signal output from the video output of a graphics card connected to a 4:3 TV (through S-Video)? I have tried the trial version of PowerStrip and its quite frustrating to use.

3. Is it possible to take advantage of the postprocessing features of a HTPC when used in conjunction with an outdated 4:3 Standard Definition TV not even capable of any Progressive Scanning?


Current System:

Laptop: Compaq 2800
Specs-
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Mobile 1.8 Ghz
RAM: 512 MB PC266
VID: Ati Mobile Radeon 7500
Screen: 15" LCD UXGA (1600x1200 native res.)

WinDvD 6
PowerStrip Trial Version
Windows XP Home Edition
FFdshow
Zoom Player

1. Download Gabest Codecs, these will allow you to play DTS encoded DivX tracks. For DVDs winDVD should be able to decode DTS.  Are you connected to an amplifier via spdif? use spdif output so that DTS will be decoded by your amp.  If you are using an analog soundcard, it depends if your winDVD supports DTS.  If so just select 5.1 or 6.1 analog output winDVD should decode DTS for you.

2. Are you talking about DivX or DVDs?  With DVDs?  with DivX you can encode it into your desired aspect ratio.  For DVD's You can change the aspect ratio using zoomplayer by pressing "R".  To use a 16:9 hardware resolution on a 4:3 SDTV  thats not possible.  To connect to an SDTV your only option is to use Composite or S-Video.  The output from your card is a hardware scaled resolution.   Your video card has to convert the hi resoultion image to 480i with its own (DACS) Digital to Analog Converters so even using powerstrip its imposible, your video card will always convert whatever resolution you have into 480i (which is 4:3).

3. Yes by using FFDshow, you can post process your DVD.  It wont be as evident as using a progressive scan TV or HDTV but you will see an improvent. Usally sharpening is the most evident post processing effect you can use.  Even if your output is 480i your video source will be sharper than no processing at alll.
Title: Bluetooth + K700i = HTPC Remote!
Post by: jpadua on Jan 20, 2005 at 09:41 AM
Hi! I just found this out recently, I just bought a blue tooth dongle with the expectation only to sync my K700i and transfer audio files and pictures to and from my pc and cellphone.   The Bluetooth dongle comes with Widcomm bluetooth software and suddenly my phone had a new BT option... Remote Conrtol! Apparently windows detects your K700i as a Human Interface Device (HID) just like bluetooth mice and keyboards!

The K700i comes with standard HID profiles.  Desktop, Windows Media, and Presenter.  I found a tool to create your own HID files! Made one for Zoomplayer.

Here's a sample of my HID profile I made for Zoomplayer.  By the way.. the Menu button is the "Return Key" and the Eject button is "0"  apparently the HID doesnt support the ";" key (root menu of ZP) and the "/" key (eject drive in ZP).

(http://www.m2systech.com/files/m2systech.jpg)

Here are some HID files (just transfer them to your K700i via bluetooth)

http://www.m2systech.com/files/hid_zp.hid (the one I made)
http://www.m2systech.com/files/hid_windvd.hid (downloaded from the web)
http://www.m2systech.com/files/hid_wmp10.hid (downloaded from the web)

You can control your mouse via the joystick of your K700i also have left and right mouse buttons, windows volume control and mute.

I'll make some more HID profiles for more windows control than the default desktop remote control profile on the K700i.   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Jan 20, 2005 at 10:05 PM
2. Are you talking about DivX or DVDs?  With DVDs?  with DivX you can encode it into your desired aspect ratio.  For DVD's You can change the aspect ratio using zoomplayer by pressing "R".  To use a 16:9 hardware resolution on a 4:3 SDTV  thats not possible.  To connect to an SDTV your only option is to use Composite or S-Video.  The output from your card is a hardware scaled resolution.   Your video card has to convert the hi resoultion image to 480i with its own (DACS) Digital to Analog Converters so even using powerstrip its imposible, your video card will always convert whatever resolution you have into 480i (which is 4:3).

Thanks Jpadua! YOur posts are always very helpful and insightful.

How did you manage to get an anamorphic output with your Syntax LCD? Is it through PowerStrip? PowerStrip is really useful mostly if you have a HDTV-ready TV, especially a LCD since it is essentially treated like a monitor thereby making the convergence between PCs and HTPC much smoother.


I don't know if you are familiar with the Creative DxR2 dvd decoder card, but this card can output anamorphic signals to the T.V. Watching DVDs with this card was quite comparable to watching DVDs on expensive set top dvd players (circa 1998-99). I have retired this since it only seems to function with Win98 and below!

I then got a Pioneer 533K set top dvd player to replace the Creative card above. This player also outputs anamorphic signals to the T.V. I can also program it to convert anamorphic signals and display it in LBWS, if desired.

I also have a Philips Dvp-642K, which I use mainly for DivX viewing. This player also outputs anamorphic signals to the T.V. but DivX files seem to be limited to only LBWS (for the ones encoded in anamorphic).

Ok, I ventured into this new project of setting HTPC to consolidate everything I do with different set top players all into a HTPC, to simplify and streamline everything. I am using the laptop as a test bed for experiments before I build a new PC for the sole purpose of being used in my HT.

So far, I have been disappointed. Dvd and DivX viewing on my laptop is limited to LBWS, which is why I wanted to find ways to make the signal output in anamorphic with the hope the video will look better. Jay, based on your explanation this is not ever possible on a SDTV. To make things worse, aside from being limited to LBWS viewing, the video is also looked degraded, like watching through a screen door. I have done extensive comparison between the laptop and the set top players, in the end the set top player still have an edge (in my case). So as of this moment, I dont see my laptop replacing my set top players.

Jay, how about a widescreen CRT capable for 480p, 576P, 720P, 1080i? Connection would be from VGA to D4 connection. How will you make the PC output in anamorphic signal, in this case to take advantage of the native widescreen support by the TV? Btw, I ask this because I was intially planning to get a surplus Jap TV capable of displaying the mentioned progressive scan modes and it is by no means cheap either (price is comparable to a brand new 29" Sony). Looks like I'm better off saving the money and getting an LCD TV like yours.
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 21, 2005 at 04:13 AM
Hi Number1,

What do you mean exactly by outputting Anamorphic widescreen to a 4:3 TV?  To what I know kasi, anamorphic video is encoded at full screen but designed for a 16:9 set.  So if you view it in a 4:3 you would get full screen but scaled to 4:3 (image stretched vertically)  Is this what you are trying ing to achieve?  I'm not sure kasi what you mean... If what you plan to do is get anamorphic fullscreen then use the tv to squeeze the image to the proper aspect ratio (widescreen mode) then this is achievable.   You dont have to output a widescreen resolution for that.  The output if the pc is mainly to match the native resolution of your TV.  The video through the player can output Anamorphic (edge to edge) LBWS and 4:3.  So if you have a 4:3 HDTV and its native resolution is 480p then you can use the pc to output 720x480p to match your displays resolution to get 1:1 pixel ratio.  Then use the player (i.e. zoomplayer) to manipulate the image to the correct aspect ratio.

To explain a little bit about aspect ratios and DVDs

Fullscreen DVDs - output 4:3 fullscreen correct aspect on a 4:3 display, on a widescreen TV image will look horizontally streched.
Anamorphic DVDs - output 16:9 fullscreen correct aspect on a 16:9 display, on a 4:3 TV image will look vertically streched.
Letterbox Widescreen - output 4:3 blackbars on top and below to correct aspect ratio.  On a 4:3 TV image will have correct aspect but with blackbars.  On a widescreen TV output would be streched horizonaly blackbars will be doubled its width and have the wrong apect.

Set top DVD players have settings for Anamorphic, LBWS and 4:3 just so that source will scale to the correct aspect depending on your Display.
Using an HTPC this is set using the software player's selection of aspect ratios and not by the video resolution.  So in my earlier post about powerstrip I was talking about something else... I think...

Back to your original post... you dont need to output a widescreen resolution... on an SDTV you wont get the same output quality as set top DVD player since the DACs to output 480i is outputting 640x480i to your SDTV, unlike set top players which output 720x480i.  If you plan to use an HTPC with an SDTV you can only do so much with the picture quality. So whatever you do with powerstrip will just be overridden by the DACs. If you are using an Nvidia card, there is a software utility for SDTVs called TVtool and this has a setting for 720x480i output comparable to set top players.. maybe even better, unfotunately this wont work with ATI cards. Using an HDTV is a completely different experience.

"To make things worse, aside from being limited to LBWS viewing, the video is also looked degraded, like watching through a screen door."

This is caused by the scaling of the video to an analog signal for your TV.  Maybe you can try this... when viewing video... always set your resolution to 640x480.. and try playing the video again and see of you see the screen door effect.  If you set your desktop resolution to anything higher than 640x480, your card will still output a 480i signal but it will be a scaled down version of that resolution... not good, bad picture quality. 

Your laptop is technically 4:3 so to view video with the correct aspect ratio will give you black bars on top and bottom.  With the syntax LCD, my PC resolution is 1280x720. Since the syntax is natively 720p I get exact 1:1 pixel ratio, so the TV does not do any scaling of its own.  When I view a DVD or DivX file, I get full widescreen.  Only have black bars if the aspect ratio is widescreen Theater type (yung mas wide na anamorphic).

"how about a widescreen CRT capable for 480p, 576P, 720P, 1080i? Connection would be from VGA to D4 connection. How will you make the PC output in anamorphic signal, in this case to take advantage of the native widescreen support by the TV?"

This is where you will need powerstrip to create a resolution that is native on your display.

480p - (864x480)
576p - (1024x576)
720p - (1280x720)
1080i - (1920x1080 interlaced)

These are all widescreen resolutions to get 1:1 pixel ratio


sorry if my explanation is all over the place... :p

Jay

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Jan 21, 2005 at 10:11 AM
mga sir.... how much po kaya abutin paggumawa po ng htpc setup now?

sir jpadua , jackryan n sir andaleon...hehe...dami ko nang nababasa..tnx sa mga info..para tuloy nakakaingganyo magassemble nito..kaya lang madugo sobra.....hehe... congrats ngapala mga sir..ganda nung mga setup and mga napopost niyo... :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 21, 2005 at 10:48 AM
mga sir.... how much po kaya abutin paggumawa po ng htpc setup now?

sir jpadua , jackryan n sir andaleon...hehe...dami ko nang nababasa..tnx sa mga info..para tuloy nakakaingganyo magassemble nito..kaya lang madugo sobra.....hehe... congrats ngapala mga sir..ganda nung mga setup and mga napopost niyo... :)

Hi ronjet,

actually the price depende sa yo! :) think of it as building a PC... you can build a complete PC with cheap components.  You can also build an uber rig with really high end components.   You can easily manage a budget naman.. like get affordable components but splurge on the video card... etc.   it depends talaga how nice you want your HTPC to be.. down to the case, silent case fans... superstable powersuply, good cooling heatsink CPU fan...

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Jan 21, 2005 at 11:10 AM
sir jay. tnx for the fast reply. :) oo nga sir...maybe if decided na hehe..sa inyo ako hihingi ng tulong... ;)..magbabasa basa pa ako dito..hehe...again,thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Pogi on Jan 21, 2005 at 01:31 PM
Sir jpadua


where can i buy an affordable but sturdy power supply for my pc?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 21, 2005 at 02:09 PM
Ronjet! sure no problem! that's what this thread is here for! :)

Pogi,

Power supply... well.. its really hard to know where to start.  First I'll start off from the cheapest to the expensive ones.

Generic Powersupply - These are dirt cheap, but the voltages on the rails are not stable.  You are not getting the correct voltage rating most of the time.  Especially if you have a lot of peripherals on your computer and a voltage hungry CPU and Video card.  These PSU's are also loud.
Price - about 350

Dynamo Dual Fan - STAY AWAY from these.   I blew one up, an 2 other friends of mine blew theirs up within weeks. (and my rig back then was just an AthlonXP 2000)
Price - about 750 - 900

TASK Dual fan - A lot of poeple from tipid pc swear by it, becuase is cheaper than most and offer a full factory warranty for 3 yrs! but Ive had 3, and they all failed on my one after the other in about 6 months. So wouldnt recommend these.   I guess thats why they have the warranty claim.
Price 1500- 2300

HECs - Reliable (PowerOP or SilentOP) My last HEC lasted more than 3 yrs... before It died on me.  The SilentOP is pretty quiet you could still hear a slight fan hum but its pretty negligible.  Unfortunately the higest wattage model is only 385w.  So its pretty good for a PC with standard equipment. The PowerOP goes up to 475w but its quite loud.   I'm using one on my gaming Rig.. and I must admit.. the buzzing is really annoying me right now, but that's just me.
Price 1800 -  3200

Enermax - These have been around for a long time... very good quality PSUs, Stable. Only tested the regular 450w flavor... but it sure aint as loud as the PowerOP thats for sure.
Price 2K up - 3800 for the 450w

These power supplies are more for enthusiasts and are rock stable.

Antec Pure power - Rockstable, Dual 12v rails for more stability, expect these PSUs to last you years, can handle high PC power demands, and server applications (which you leave on 24/7)
You can get Antecs from rising sun.
about 6k-7k (ouch!) 

PaxPower Akasa Powesupply - This is very interesting... Dual 12v rails (one dedicated for the CPU)... rock stable... and almost in audible at 18db.
This is what I plan to buy next.  You can order this through Waycool of TipidPC (he brings in all the akasa stuff)  This PSU can power a rig full of drives, lights, fans, intensive video card. Best of all its almost inaudible, really silent. (about 24db is what your ear can hear in normal situations)
about 5K

These power supplies are all available here in the philippines... there are a lot of other power supplies that are great too bad you can't buy them here. So I guess you can make a fair decision depending on what your computer power needs and silencing needs.

Here's a useful site to check what your PC power requirements might be.  Make sure to add some headroom when choosing a PSU in case you add some more components.

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/


Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Jan 21, 2005 at 02:36 PM

PaxPower Akasa Powesupply - This is very interesting... Dual 12v rails (one dedicated for the CPU)... rock stable... and almost in audible at 18db.
This is what I plan to buy next.  You can order this through Waycool of TipidPC (he brings in all the akasa stuff)  This PSU can power a rig full of drives, lights, fans, intensive video card. Best of all its almost inaudible, really silent. (about 24db is what your ear can hear in normal situations)
about 5K


Jay,

Are there potential PSU modifications such as changing the internal fans perhaps to more specialized fans that generates much less noise?

thanks,
-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 21, 2005 at 04:26 PM
Jay,

Are there potential PSU modifications such as changing the internal fans perhaps to more specialized fans that generates much less noise?

thanks,
-jackryan 8)

I'm not sure how that would work out.  Ive seen the PSU internal fans, well the 80mm kind and they are exactly the same type of 80mm you would find on any computer.  I guess you can change them out,  although I don't know what the thermal properties will change to... These silent PSUs were designed to still be adequately cooled and yet have a low db output rating.  So I'm not so sure.. there might be some guide on the web how to do this kind of mod.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Pogi on Jan 21, 2005 at 04:31 PM
thanks for the info sir jpadua


i 've already used the calculator and surprisingly...  i only average around 267 watts with my rig...  i have around 350 watts with the built in psu...  so i guess the psu is not the problem...  grrrr....  baka naman mobo ang problema....  can't seem to have my pc checked with the local shop since i can't live without a pc even for a day
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 21, 2005 at 04:46 PM
Jackryan,

I managed to find a guide on how to change your PSU fans.
Check this out.

http://modasylum.com/guides.php?guide=35

By the way you can lower the noise on your case fans by modding it to 7v from the normal 12v.  This will lower your fan speed and also lower the CFM but the noise level will drop dramatically.   So If your PC is not running that hot and you can spare some airflow, then quiet down you case fans with this mod.

Take the power connector from your fan and put the 2 leds on opposite sides....

12v red to yellow, black to black.
5v red to red, black to black.
7v red to red, black to yellow.  (this is what we would want to do)

there you go another way to silence your case without buying more expensive silent fans.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Jan 21, 2005 at 10:07 PM
What do you mean exactly by outputting Anamorphic widescreen to a 4:3 TV? 

Once my 4:3 SDTV detects an incoming anamorphic signal (from the set top dvd player), it(TV) will automatically switch to convert the signal into LBWS. I call this "outputting an anamorphic signal" because the TV literally switches to widescreen mode with black bars appearing on the top and bottom part of the screen. So while playing an anamorphic dvd, the TV is in this "widescreen mode" and, say, I flip the TV channels, the TV images will appear squashed similar to viewing 4:3 material on a 16:9 screen. I was hypotizing that if I can make my video card output to the TV an anamorphic signal (just like what the set top dvd player does when playing anamorphic materials), then perhaps it would trigger the TV to swtich to its "widescreen mode" and therefore the output from the laptop will at least look similar to the set top players. I hope this is much clearer.  ;D

So basically there are no apparent benefits in using HTPC ONLY with a SDTV due to resolution limitations of the latter.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 22, 2005 at 03:33 AM
Once my 4:3 SDTV detects an incoming anamorphic signal (from the set top dvd player), it(TV) will automatically switch to convert the signal into LBWS. I call this "outputting an anamorphic signal" because the TV literally switches to widescreen mode with black bars appearing on the top and bottom part of the screen. So while playing an anamorphic dvd, the TV is in this "widescreen mode" and, say, I flip the TV channels, the TV images will appear squashed similar to viewing 4:3 material on a 16:9 screen. I was hypotizing that if I can make my video card output to the TV an anamorphic signal (just like what the set top dvd player does when playing anamorphic materials), then perhaps it would trigger the TV to swtich to its "widescreen mode" and therefore the output from the laptop will at least look similar to the set top players. I hope this is much clearer.  ;D

So basically there are no apparent benefits in using HTPC ONLY with a SDTV due to resolution limitations of the latter.


So your tv does the anamorphic squeeze automatically? is there any way to manually do that on your TV?  In my pixelplus I have the option to do an anamorphic squeeze.  If  you can do that with your TV then you can still have anamorphic from an HTPC.  output 640x480 from your PC to your TV via S-video.  Make sure than you are in overscan mode (there is usally a place to set this in the display settings).  Run Zoomplayer.  Select aspect ratio to Anamorphic.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dokie on Jan 27, 2005 at 08:49 AM
question lang po.

meron po bang s-video to component output adapter  or cable?yung available locally..eh kamusta naman yung picture quality nun? plano ko kasing gawin htpc yung pc ko ngayon.thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: johndoe on Jan 27, 2005 at 01:13 PM
meron nito na monster cable n brand..try visiting the listening room.or sa bose. 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 27, 2005 at 01:26 PM
question lang po.

meron po bang s-video to component output adapter  or cable?yung available locally..eh kamusta naman yung picture quality nun? plano ko kasing gawin htpc yung pc ko ngayon.thanks!

Hi Dokie, I'm not sure if there is an s-video to component adaptor or if there is (acc. john doe's post) you would still be getting an s-video signal.  Just through a different kind of cable.  The video output coming from the s-video port is already a downsized pc resolutions permanently configured at 480i.   I doubt you will see much of a difference using an s-video to component cable ot a straight s-video connection to your TV.

You dont have to spend for a component cable.. just plug the s-video cable straight into your TV's s-video inputs.  Most modern TVs have an S-video  video input.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dokie on Jan 28, 2005 at 07:45 AM
thanks sa reply johndoe & jpadua

eh meron po ba nung vga to component cables? mas mataas po kaya ang magiging resolution nun compared sa s-video? thanks ulit!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 28, 2005 at 08:13 AM
Actually meron, depende sa video card mo.  but if you will be connecting to an SDTV same pa rin ang result.   Nasa TV talaga, becuase only 480i lang ang tatanggapin ng SDTV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: downtown on Jan 31, 2005 at 01:09 PM
Hi,
I'm interested in building my own HTPC, I'm thinking of using my current rig's vid card, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro as the card for the HTPC, is this enough and what are the other things I would need.
Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 31, 2005 at 01:21 PM
yup a 9700pro is powerfull card for an HTPC.  Maybe a good soundcard.  You can use an Audigy2 or other SB cards, even Motherboards that have built in digital audio output will do.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mauers on Jan 31, 2005 at 05:34 PM
Question for sir jpadua, what is the native resolution of your philips pixelplus when connected via VGA and using NTSC videos? I have a 29" 4:3 pixelplus tv and I am building an HTPC for it.
Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: downtown on Jan 31, 2005 at 07:03 PM
Jpadua,
how much ram would be needed? Would Windows XP be sufficient already? Also, can you pm the price of the Accent HT-400.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 01, 2005 at 08:53 AM
Question for sir jpadua, what is the native resolution of your philips pixelplus when connected via VGA and using NTSC videos? I have a 29" 4:3 pixelplus tv and I am building an HTPC for it.
Thanks

with my experience with the pixel plus the best resolution was 720x540.   I was also able to use 800x600@50hz full screen.  These interlaced resolutions also work with the pixel plus.  1024x768i, 1280x1024i and 1920x1080i.   1024x768 has black borders top bottom and sides so its not good.  800x600 is good for games but 1280x1024i is the best full screen. Good for games if your PC is fast enough.  1920x1080i is ok for movies but you can barely read any text.  1280x960i is also allowed but there will be a slight distorion of the image, streched horizontally.

Make several profiles.
720x540p for DVD Progressive scan
800x600p @50hz for Web Browsing and Gaming
1280x1024i for gaming
1920x1080i for DVD Interlaced (Picture is slightly better than 540p)

Jpadua,
how much ram would be needed? Would Windows XP be sufficient already? Also, can you pm the price of the Accent HT-400.

I would suggest a minimum of 512MB DDR  but its always good to have headroom.  So 1GB or ram would be the best (di ka mabibitin when you need it). You only need the CPU power and Ram when doing software decoding and post processing (which is the choice of most) if you just want to use your PC for a regular DVD player then Hardware acceleration DXVA is good enough and doesnt need that much CPU and memory overhead.

Sent you a PM

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Feb 01, 2005 at 04:50 PM
jay any development sa silvestone transaction mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mauers on Feb 02, 2005 at 02:55 PM
with my experience with the pixel plus the best resolution was 720x540.   I was also able to use 800x600@50hz full screen.  These interlaced resolutions also work with the pixel plus.  1024x768i, 1280x1024i and 1920x1080i.   1024x768 has black borders top bottom and sides so its not good.  800x600 is good for games but 1280x1024i is the best full screen. Good for games if your PC is fast enough.  1920x1080i is ok for movies but you can barely read any text.  1280x960i is also allowed but there will be a slight distorion of the image, streched horizontally.

Make several profiles.
720x540p for DVD Progressive scan
800x600p @50hz for Web Browsing and Gaming
1280x1024i for gaming
1920x1080i for DVD Interlaced (Picture is slightly better than 540p)

Jay


Thanks for the reply Sir Jay! I'll try these resolutions this weekend :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 03, 2005 at 01:21 AM
jay any development sa silvestone transaction mo?

PAreng Qman,

Looks like matatagalan pa... Right not wala pa akong way to bring it in... have to talk pa to my friend based in China to help in the shipping and stuff.  They allowed me to order a few units for trial lang.. so it looks like one time deal lang to with Silverstone, they will allow me to distribute if I order I think about 10 or more cases but that involes too much overhead for me.  Konti lang bibili kasi.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: wrAth on Feb 08, 2005 at 10:43 AM
Hi Dokie, I'm not sure if there is an s-video to component adaptor or if there is (acc. john doe's post) you would still be getting an s-video signal.  Just through a different kind of cable.  The video output coming from the s-video port is already a downsized pc resolutions permanently configured at 480i.   I doubt you will see much of a difference using an s-video to component cable ot a straight s-video connection to your TV.

You dont have to spend for a component cable.. just plug the s-video cable straight into your TV's s-video inputs.  Most modern TVs have an S-video  video input.

jpadua,

what kind of connection do you use to connect your PC to your TV? component? what videocard accomodates component output? thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 08, 2005 at 02:19 PM
jpadua,

what kind of connection do you use to connect your PC to your TV? component? what videocard accomodates component output? thanks!

Right now I'm using DVI.  Most modern video cards have DVI outputs.  I'm currently using a 27" Wide LCD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Feb 14, 2005 at 03:38 PM
wrATH asks:

"what videocard accomodates component output? "

The ASUS X-300 has a component video out.

It's a PCI Express card however,
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Mar 11, 2005 at 09:12 PM
I'm a newbie in HTPC set up and now thinking of getting one in order to take advantage of my soon to be purchased Samsung DLP that has both DVI & HDMI input. I'm so confused with many things & seek your kind advices. Recently got even confuse when a salesman told me in ATI Radeon 9000 series, there are at least 5 different models??

Found the following specs in Windows Media High Definition Video site:

Optimum Configuration
(to play 1080p video with 5.1 surround sound)

Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
DirectX 9.0
3.0 GHz processor or equivalent
512 MB of RAM
128 MB video card
DVD drive
1920 x 1440 screen resolution
24-bit 96 kHz multichannel sound card
5.1 surround sound speaker system

I'm totally loss of what the above are all about. All I know I need a good video card & sound card. All those RAM or REM beats me  :-[ May I know any good & realiable computer shops that carry or can set up the above specs & what brand/models do u recommend?

I presume the above recommended specs should have DVI & HDMI output so that I can connect to my HDTV display. Thanks guys! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 12, 2005 at 04:11 AM
I'm a newbie in HTPC set up and now thinking of getting one in order to take advantage of my soon to be purchased Samsung DLP that has both DVI & HDMI input. I'm so confused with many things & seek your kind advices. Recently got even confuse when a salesman told me in ATI Radeon 9000 series, there are at least 5 different models??

Found the following specs in Windows Media High Definition Video site:

Optimum Configuration
(to play 1080p video with 5.1 surround sound)

Windows XP
Windows Media Player 9 Series
DirectX 9.0
3.0 GHz processor or equivalent
512 MB of RAM
128 MB video card
DVD drive
1920 x 1440 screen resolution
24-bit 96 kHz multichannel sound card
5.1 surround sound speaker system

I'm totally loss of what the above are all about. All I know I need a good video card & sound card. All those RAM or REM beats me  :-[ May I know any good & realiable computer shops that carry or can set up the above specs & what brand/models do u recommend?

I presume the above recommended specs should have DVI & HDMI output so that I can connect to my HDTV display. Thanks guys! :)


Hi pchin,

Yeah building an HTPC is really a custom kinda thing, there is no exact specification on what kind of hardware you need.  The windows media high definition video requirements are good if you intend to really watch and play HD recorded streams or files (which is not much, not unless you have a place to get all of those).  The abundant source of video material we have here in the PH is DVDs.  Those specs are actually very very good.  I'm only running an AthlonXP 2500 (overclocked to 3200) and it can play 720p clips just fine.. 1080i will skip a bit here and there.

Most computer shops would be able to get the parts you need.

This is what I would buy though If I were to build myself a new system.

Windows XP professional (Operating System)
Athlon64 3200
Nforce4 Motherboard
1GB Ram
Ati 9800XT 128
M-Audio Revolution 7.1 (if using a pvr-250) , Audigy2 (if using a leadtek Winfast XP)
Hauppague PVR-250 capture card (unfortunately this is not available here, but a Leadtek Winfast XP will do)
Good stable power supply (Enermax or HEC, Antec if I had money to burn)

However this would be a really expensive machine.

Minimum would be (in my opinion)

Windows XP Home
AthlonXP 2500
Nforce 2 Motherboard with soundstorm
512mb ram
ATI 9600Pro or XT
Leadtek winfast XP
HEC Silent OP

This is a more affordable option.

Modern video cards have DVI output so you would be able to connect to your samsung DLP
Your soundcard should have spdif output if you want to connect it to a home theater amplifier

Even with a minimum setup you will be able to have great video quality.  The more powerfull specs would be required if you plan to do a lot of DVD convertion, Video Capturing and Editing, and Recording.  Also upscaling DVDs will have more headroom if you have a more powerful pc.

Other hardware brands I would recommend:
Samsung DVD-Rom (quiet)
Lite-on DVD-Writer (Flashable to Dual-Layer)




Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 12, 2005 at 04:17 AM
Correction on the Syntax LCD,

I posted before that you can only use either VGA or DVI one at a time.  Mali pala ako :D  I have it connected to 2 PC's isa VGA and another sa DVI and I can switch pc's via remote of the TV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Mar 12, 2005 at 06:56 AM
jay,

yung syntax lcd mo ba yung olevia? muntik na kong makakuha nyan nung magsale dito for $799 :)

btw, Windows Media Center 2005 will be released to 20 additional countries (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=4186) HK,Taiwan & Singapore included. susunod na Pinas dyan(sana...  :))

i recently added a Hauppage PVR250 MCE in my HTPC. now, I have 2 SDTV and 1 HDTV recorder, most of the time, recording at the same time. hehehe. addict na sa TV.


Correction on the Syntax LCD,

I posted before that you can only use either VGA or DVI one at a time.  Mali pala ako :D  I have it connected to 2 PC's isa VGA and another sa DVI and I can switch pc's via remote of the TV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 13, 2005 at 01:54 AM
jay,

yung syntax lcd mo ba yung olevia? muntik na kong makakuha nyan nung magsale dito for $799 :)

btw, Windows Media Center 2005 will be released to 20 additional countries (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=4186) HK,Taiwan & Singapore included. susunod na Pinas dyan(sana...  :))

i recently added a Hauppage PVR250 MCE in my HTPC. now, I have 2 SDTV and 1 HDTV recorder, most of the time, recording at the same time. hehehe. addict na sa TV.



I think they are different models, the Olevia is made by syntax the one i have doesnt look the same as the olevia, but its a great LCD monitor! I love it 27" of widescreen goodness, and it doubles as a PC monitor too, widescreen gaming is awesome!

About MCE sa pinas I dunno how they are gonna do that, MCE relies on Electronic Program guides, So if MCE does come out here, I sure hope MS will be able to have an EPG for philippine cable operators ready by then.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Mar 13, 2005 at 04:51 PM
Thanks jpadua for the great advice tho I'm a little bit loss here. Man, those specs are too deep for me. Will need some time to digest it. Probably after consulting a computer dealer & seeing those things with my own eyes, the whole pix will be clearer.  ;D

Yes, my main intention is to play DVD esp WMVHD Terminator 2 & other HD movies plus video/DVD editing & recording. Thanks again jpadua :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Mar 18, 2005 at 03:10 PM
Out Intel, In AMD..

New configuration:

1.) AMD FX-55 CPU
2.) Asus AN8-SLI motherboard
3.) Two NVidia 6800 Ultra in SLI Mode
4.) 2GB DDR-400 RAM
5.) M-Audio Audiophile 24/192 Soundcard.

Other than that everything stays  the same.




Need GAMING Advice:

A PC store saleman suggested that I should try PC Gaming with a rig like mine.

I have been doing a lot of video editing and Hi Def Archiving but have not looked at what seems to an exciting world of PC Gaming. Maybe I just did not have the time.

I am a newbie when it comes to Gaming.

I asked a couple of friends and I'll ask you guys:

What do you recommend? What gear?

I have always like Flying, so maybe I should start with a Flight Simulator. Any suggestions?

Few changes I made to my HTPC :

1.) Pentium 4 3.4GHz 550 Procesor 800 MHz FSB, 1MB Cache-Overclocked to 3.9 Ghz
2.) Asus P5AD2 Motherboard, PCI Express, 1394B Firewire 800
3.) Radeon X800 XT Platinum PCI Express-16 Video Card-OVERCLOCKED
4.) Two 250 GB Each SATA Drives, RAID 0 Array
5.) Two 34 GB Each RAPTOR Drives (10,000 RPM, SATA) for OS and Program Files RAID 0 Array
6.) 1 GB DDR2 PC2-4300 RAM Overclocked to 600 Mhz
7.) DVico Fusion 3 Gold HDTV card ATSC/QAM,
8.) M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card,
9.) Sony DVD DRU-700 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.
10.) Monarchy Audio 24/96 Digital Interface Processor (DIP) for jitter reduction.
11.) CoolerMaster Stacker Case with Crossflow fan

(http://www.coolermaster.com/product_common_images/16fe07d26de5c6a4c2d13bf4493fd8b2.jpg)

12.) Two 550W Antec True Power Power Supplies
13.) Two Antec Hard Drive coolers
14.) Two Removable 250 GB EIDE Drives-


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Mar 19, 2005 at 08:58 AM
hi...i started assemblying my htpc.  i have the following hardwares:
athlon 64 on K8N Neo MOBO
Radeon 9600 xt
Win Fast tv 2000xp
SB Live! Value with digital I/O daughter board
512MB RAM (dadagdagan ko pa ng 1GB RAM)

wala pa akong dvd drive as well as a big enough HDD but i will be getting soon na rin.
These are my questions:
1.  I tried to download some front end freewares pero i cant seem to figure how to configure it.  meron bang tutorials ito or are these softwares dependent upon a particular hardwares or softwares. i tried to use showshifter pero i cant get to navigate through it.   i suspect that i need first to have a dvd drive-tama kaya yun?
2.  i will be hooking this htpc to my samsung 43 inches that has a dvi input.  do i need any further tweaking?

ty po...your comment/recommendations will be highly appreciated.

mods,
i posted this at the wrong place earlier. i tried to delete my post pero di ko alam kung successful.
ty po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Mar 19, 2005 at 04:18 PM
Out Intel, In AMD..

New configuration:

1.) AMD FX-55 CPU
2.) Asus AN8-SLI motherboard
3.) Two NVidia 6800 Ultra in SLI Mode
4.) 2GB DDR-400 RAM
5.) M-Audio Audiophile 24/192 Soundcard.

Other than that everything stays  the same.


Wow, I envy you...your setup seem to last only for a couple of months before upgrading all over again!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Mar 19, 2005 at 11:11 PM
It is kinda convenient because people come over and say, "can you build me one like that?".

My easy answer always is "here you can take this one"
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Mar 21, 2005 at 08:23 PM
A question. If I use the DVI output from my HTPC & connect it direct to a TV say the Samsung DLP with DVI input (which has this HDCP protection), is this compatible? Acoording to reviews both DVI terminals must support the HDCP otherwise the high definition contents will be scale downed?? How can I be sure the DVI from my HTPC is with HDPC? :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 22, 2005 at 12:55 AM
A question. If I use the DVI output from my HTPC & connect it direct to a TV say the Samsung DLP with DVI input (which has this HDCP protection), is this compatible? Acoording to reviews both DVI terminals must support the HDCP otherwise the high definition contents will be scale downed?? How can I be sure the DVI from my HTPC is with HDPC? :(

Hmmmm,

Actually I'm not sure... DVI is still pretty tricky, sometimes it depends on the Set, on some HDTVs DVI works without a hitch on some, ayaw talaga mag sync ng tama... The best way is to look for someone who has the same TV to test it, look for other users who have tried it.  Anyway the newer HDTVs are mostly PC ready, unlike the older ones which didnt have PC connections in mind (HDTV Set Top Boxes only).  The model prior to the latest one works in DVI, There are several PDVD members who use the Samsung DLP with DVI  you can ask them. In anycase that is an awesome TV.   
Title: Finally HTPCs are being noticed!
Post by: jpadua on Mar 22, 2005 at 01:02 AM
Hey guys,

Finally the HTPC is getting a little media milage.   Just had a shoot with Digital Tour! They are doing a Segment on the HTPC, They interviewed me and I demo'd one our HTPC's in an awesome Theater Room (Automated Lighting, Glassbeaded / Motorized screen, naka Neutron) na dinesign ng kaparter ko sa HTPC biz namin.  It was pretty long, so medyo marami intro info about what it can do. So for those na di pa nakakakita ng HTPC in action check out the show! :)

Its going to be aired on Studio 23 on August 6 sa Digital Tour!

Cheers!

Jay

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Mar 22, 2005 at 12:48 PM
A question. If I use the DVI output from my HTPC & connect it direct to a TV say the Samsung DLP with DVI input (which has this HDCP protection), is this compatible? Acoording to reviews both DVI terminals must support the HDCP otherwise the high definition contents will be scale downed?? How can I be sure the DVI from my HTPC is with HDPC? :(

A TV, like the Samsung DLP,  treats DVI video from a PC differently from the DVI output of say--a DVD player.

When it sees a PC signal, it does not expect a HDCP handshake. Some TV you have to set the DVI input to PC-DVI  input or Video-DVI input.

I don't know of any PC that transmits HDCP.

Your set-up should work.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Mar 24, 2005 at 10:32 AM
im not sure kung na da downscale yung output,i have a media center PC connected into a Tosh HD RPTV and I'm using Powerstrip to output 1280x720p(though its a pain to use Powerstip, its worth it when you got the right combo).

i think you'll need that when you connect your HTPC into your DLP and also your video card will also play a big factor if you'll be playing a lot of HD contents
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Apr 04, 2005 at 12:27 PM
A TV, like the Samsung DLP,? treats DVI video from a PC differently from the DVI output of say--a DVD player.

When it sees a PC signal, it does not expect a HDCP handshake. Some TV you have to set the DVI input to PC-DVI? input or Video-DVI input. I don't know of any PC that transmits HDCP. Your set-up should work.
Hmmmm, Actually I'm not sure... DVI is still pretty tricky, sometimes it depends on the Set, on some HDTVs DVI works without a hitch on some, ayaw talaga mag sync ng tama... The best way is to look for someone who has the same TV to test it, look for other users who have tried it. Anyway the newer HDTVs are mostly PC ready, unlike the older ones which didnt have PC connections in mind (HDTV Set Top Boxes only). The model prior to the latest one works in DVI, There are several PDVD members who use the Samsung DLP with DVI you can ask them. In anycase that is an awesome TV.

Thanks guys. Yes I do hope the DLP DVI will ignore the HDCP from my PC signal....I hav epurchased all my HTPC parts na....in teh process of assembly...unfortunately I can't find a proper Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card that has a digital optical output (24 bit 192 khz) so that I can connect it to my HI-FI. The only card available in Willman is the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum Eidtion which is selling at a whopping 12K!!! I searched every where inclusing most PC Express branches, Pasang Tamo, megamall, etc... :( Pls advise....tks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RDyENT on Apr 04, 2005 at 12:32 PM
Sir Jay,

Pinoydvd member ba yun owner ng HTPC and HT room that was featured sa DTour last night?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Apr 04, 2005 at 01:19 PM
Thanks guys. Yes I do hope the DLP DVI will ignore the HDCP from my PC signal....I hav epurchased all my HTPC parts na....in teh process of assembly...unfortunately I can't find a proper Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card that has a digital optical output (24 bit 192 khz) so that I can connect it to my HI-FI.

You may have to set your DLP TV to expect DVI-PC and not DVI-Video.

Your PC will not transmit HDCP but your TV is expecting that it will receive HDCP anyway since it sees a computer source and not a DVD player.

Looking for Toslink (optical) output and not willing to spend on a good soundcard? Find a good motherboard that has Toslink (optical) output  already!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 04, 2005 at 02:23 PM
Sir Jay,

Pinoydvd member ba yun owner ng HTPC and HT room that was featured sa DTour last night?

Hi Rydent,

Yung owners hindi ata eh, cliente lang namin nag paalam kami if we could use thier HT room for the Dtour Feature.  (BTW ako yung kalbo iniinterview dun heheh)....

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RDyENT on Apr 04, 2005 at 07:43 PM
Hi Rydent,

Yung owners hindi ata eh, cliente lang namin nag paalam kami if we could use thier HT room for the Dtour Feature. (BTW ako yung kalbo iniinterview dun heheh)....

Jay

 :) I knew it was you na po. Galing talaga ng HTPC guru! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: baby on Apr 05, 2005 at 12:48 AM
Need some help here.  What else do I need to have the ultimate HTPC??

Here's my current setup
Foxxconn Motherboard (661FX4MR-ES)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 3E Ghz (imb L2-Cache, 800 Mhz FS8, PGA-478 Pkg)
512 RAM
Aoc monitor 5nE (15")

What the best sound card,Video card.or what the best hardwares to have the best HTPC??? ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Apr 05, 2005 at 04:57 AM
an A/V receiver that supports WMA9 Pro :)  seems like a good companion for HTPCs

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/press/release/detail/0,,2076_4313_191756416,00.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Apr 05, 2005 at 12:31 PM
Need some help here.  What else do I need to have the ultimate HTPC??

Here's my current setup
Foxxconn Motherboard (661FX4MR-ES)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 3E Ghz (imb L2-Cache, 800 Mhz FS8, PGA-478 Pkg)
512 RAM
Aoc monitor 5nE (15")

What the best sound card,Video card.or what the best hardwares to have the best HTPC??? ;D

What is your budget?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Apr 05, 2005 at 11:15 PM
Need some help here.  What else do I need to have the ultimate HTPC??

Here's my current setup
Foxxconn Motherboard (661FX4MR-ES)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 3E Ghz (imb L2-Cache, 800 Mhz FS8, PGA-478 Pkg)
512 RAM
Aoc monitor 5nE (15")

What the best sound card,Video card.or what the best hardwares to have the best HTPC??? ;D


Read this guide (http://www.2cpu.com/articles/113_1.html) for more info.

*You might consider adding a good TV tuner, which the guide discusses thoroughly.
*Assuming you are in the market for a video card, get one based on the Nvidia 6600GT chip with the DDR3 memory
*Get a sound card like M-Audio or use you may use your motherboard's sound port to save on some cash.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: baby on Apr 05, 2005 at 11:58 PM

Read this guide (http://www.2cpu.com/articles/113_1.html) for more info.

*You might consider adding a good TV tuner, which the guide discusses thoroughly.
*Assuming you are in the market for a video card, get one based on the Nvidia 6600GT chip with the DDR3 memory
*Get a sound card like M-Audio or use you may use your motherboard's sound port to save on some cash.



Thanks for your reply. I will browse through the site.

What is your budget?
As long as I can afford it.

Guys thank you very much for your replies. Any more suggestions?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 06, 2005 at 12:30 PM
sir i just recently upgraded my computer to come up with some sort of an htpc.  the components are:
athlon 64 sitting on k8n neo platinum mobo
1 Gb ram (512x2)
160Gb SATA HDD
20Gb IDE HDD (boot)
lg dvd/cr-r/w combo drive
zip cdr/w drive
winfast tv 2000 expert
ati radeon 9600 video card
sound blaster live video card with digital i/o daughter board

i am running on windows mce as os.

1.  what are your comments on my rig? are there other improvements necessary?
 
2.  i cant get to use my tv / fm tuner with mce front end which i guess is because it is not yet supported so i decided to try meedio in its trial version, i cant get to use it either but according to the forum, puede naman daw...any advice on this one?

3.  what is the girder software? can i use it using my winfast remote?

ty po to any of your comments an inputs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: johndoe on Apr 06, 2005 at 05:19 PM
hi guys meron ba kayong alam na ngbebenta ng touchscreen lcd monitors?..i need it my project.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Apr 07, 2005 at 09:52 AM
Got my new HTPC na: Pentium 4 at 3.0 GHz with 80Gb hard disk, 128MB video card, 512MB RAM, etc.

Just a question.  After checking the site http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/AboutHDVideo.aspx to evaluate if my computer can play Windows Media High Definition Video, my computer specs pass all tests but failed the following:

The AGP Fast Write is disabled. Each time I enable it & later restart the computer, the AGP will be automatically disable! That's strange. Do I need to install any special driver to enable my AGP?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:33 AM
Updated my setup w/ this monitor

Dell 2405fpw lcd 24" wide 1920 x 1200 , with dvi/vga/component/s-video/composite inputs


(http://www.jaded-gamer.com/e107_images/newspost_images/2045fp9.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:54 AM
wow  :o

jambam,
san mo na iskor yan and pede malaman ang price

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Apr 07, 2005 at 11:03 AM
sa us ko pinabili  USD 1199 list price ...a bargain considering the other alternatives.

ito manual

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/English/index.htm
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 08, 2005 at 02:36 PM
sir i have 43in samsung hdtv rptv...meron sya dvi / vga in...sinubukan ko i-hook sa computer ko pero parang nag double sya ng lumabas...tipong parang naduling ako...any tips on how to correctly set this thing up. ty po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Qman on Apr 08, 2005 at 04:04 PM
sa us ko pinabili  USD 1199 list price ...a bargain considering the other alternatives.

ito manual

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/English/index.htm

Galing dami ng built in sya card reader etc... wish i have a relative sa us din hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Apr 10, 2005 at 01:18 PM
1.great rig! i think that's fine for now.

2.you can still use your MCE even without EPG to watch TV and manually record shows(its not a requirement)

3. not sure if you can use girder for winfast remote



1.  what are your comments on my rig? are there other improvements necessary?
 
2.  i cant get to use my tv / fm tuner with mce front end which i guess is because it is not yet supported so i decided to try meedio in its trial version, i cant get to use it either but according to the forum, puede naman daw...any advice on this one?

3.  what is the girder software? can i use it using my winfast remote?

ty po to any of your comments an inputs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Apr 10, 2005 at 01:24 PM
The AGP Fast Write is disabled. Each time I enable it & later restart the computer, the AGP will be automatically disable! That's strange. Do I need to install any special driver to enable my AGP?

nawawala yung settings nya sa BIOS? you might need to upgrade your AGP driver though I'm not sure if it matters for WMV HD playback
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Apr 10, 2005 at 01:26 PM
sir i have 43in samsung hdtv rptv...meron sya dvi / vga in...sinubukan ko i-hook sa computer ko pero parang nag double sya ng lumabas...tipong parang naduling ako...any tips on how to correctly set this thing up. ty po

are you using DVI or VGA? you need powerstrip. try searching avsforum.com for the powerstrip settings for your TV model
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Apr 10, 2005 at 07:15 PM
nawawala yung settings nya sa BIOS? you might need to upgrade your AGP driver though I'm not sure if it matters for WMV HD playback

Tried the BIOS but futile. Yes now I'm searching for a AGP driver update.....so confusing & complicated!!  :'(

Speaking of DVI...geez.... I didn't realize this cable isn't available in the local market....after searching everywhere... Then I tried to purchase online & to my surprise...there r many different types od DVI?? About 10 different types of DVI? Whoa.... I'm still confused if mine is either DVI-D Dual Link or DVI-D Single Link? Anyone can shed some light?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Apr 11, 2005 at 03:09 AM
All About DVI (http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html#Page02)

kung may kamaganak or kakilala ka sa US, pwede ka magpabili sa pccables.com (that's were I buy my cables, component, DVI, etc). cheap and reliable.



Speaking of DVI...geez.... I didn't realize this cable isn't available in the local market....after searching everywhere... Then I tried to purchase online & to my surprise...there r many different types od DVI?? About 10 different types of DVI? Whoa.... I'm still confused if mine is either DVI-D Dual Link or DVI-D Single Link? Anyone can shed some light?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 11, 2005 at 06:47 AM
GM,
sir thanks for head-up..tried searching pero unfortunately wala ata dun eh...according to the manual my tv can accept xga..whatever that is...i am using a vga-to-dvi (tv to pc) connection since ala akong mahaba na dvi cable (for a dvi-to-dvi connection). any general guides to follow on powerstrip thing? ty po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Apr 11, 2005 at 11:36 AM
GM,
sir thanks for head-up..tried searching pero unfortunately wala ata dun eh...according to the manual my tv can accept xga..whatever that is...i am using a vga-to-dvi (tv to pc) connection since ala akong mahaba na dvi cable (for a dvi-to-dvi connection). any general guides to follow on powerstrip thing? ty po

alam mo ba kung ano yung native resolution ng TV mo? start with a setting lower than your native resolution.
and ano nga pala yung video card mo? nVidia cards with latest  drivers now support custom resolution that most of the time, you wont need powerstrip to output your pc into your hd rptv
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 11, 2005 at 12:44 PM
i have an ati radeon 9600 video card.

the tv manual says it can support the following:

vga
640 x 480 60hz
640 x 480 75hz
svga
900 x 600 60hz
900 x 600 75hz
xga
1024 x 768 60hz
1024 x 768 75hz
it further says that it cannot support interlace mode (whatever that is)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Apr 13, 2005 at 08:58 AM
pag DVI or VGA siguro(not supporting interlaced mode)
try setting your machine resolution first to 640x480@60hz using DVI or VGA(in your PCs Video Settings not in powerstrip). then kung medyo matino na yung displayed picture, slide it to 900x600 or 1024x768. pag medyo matindi ang overscan, thats the time you need powerstrip. trial and error lang naman yun e.

i have an ati radeon 9600 video card.
the tv manual says it can support the following:
vga
640 x 480 60hz
640 x 480 75hz
svga
900 x 600 60hz
900 x 600 75hz
xga
1024 x 768 60hz
1024 x 768 75hz
it further says that it cannot support interlace mode (whatever that is)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Apr 13, 2005 at 09:53 AM
sa us ko pinabili  USD 1199 list price ...a bargain considering the other alternatives.

ito manual

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/English/index.htm

nice monitor n very nice price! do you find the 1920x1200 resolution too big for the 26" screen or just right? have you tried 1080p on 'em? how is it for watching dvd's? thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 13, 2005 at 10:04 PM
Try the new Catalyst driver 5.4 I think is the latest is has better support for HDTV resolutions over DVI and the Dongle (VGA no still need powerstrip).  If you are using DVI you might not need powersrtrip when using the new drivers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 15, 2005 at 04:05 PM
sir thanks po sa reply...one question though (medyo newbie talaga eh) when you say overscan, ano po ba ito? i mean, ano ang makikita ko sa screen? i experienced na parang blurred or parang may shadows yung mga computer icons. is that overscan? sensya na po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Apr 15, 2005 at 11:09 PM
Quote
nice monitor n very nice price! do you find the 1920x1200 resolution too big for the 26" screen or just right? have you tried 1080p on 'em? how is it for watching dvd's? thanks!

It's just fine as my number one use is a pc monitor secondary for watching movies.. I have a few downloaded 1080 movies and they really look nice... "nakaka addict mag download ng hdtv content tuloy" actually it has component input  but have not tried dvd's yet..

you can check the avsforum too for their opinions ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Apr 16, 2005 at 02:54 AM
thanks jam. ill check 'em out sa avs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Apr 16, 2005 at 06:44 AM
What programs to use, inorder to play/decode .ts (transport stream) files?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Apr 19, 2005 at 09:45 AM
number1 , use vlc player for playing .ts files

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on May 03, 2005 at 06:17 AM
interesting new HTPC case..

http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=x15

:)

(http://www.iuneed.com/prodimages/X15e/x15e-blk-1.jpg)

(http://www.iuneed.com/prodimages/X15e/x15e-blk-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 04, 2005 at 01:59 AM
interesting new HTPC case..

http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=x15

:)

(http://www.iuneed.com/prodimages/X15e/x15e-blk-1.jpg)

(http://www.iuneed.com/prodimages/X15e/x15e-blk-2.jpg)

Ganda neto, saw this last yr in silver black, looks sexy. This is made by Ahanix I think... it comes with a LCD Touchscreen from xenarc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on May 04, 2005 at 07:23 AM
sana lang e makakuha at a discounted price..   bale wala VFD and IR ng Ahanix ko (1st gen Ahanix D4), hindi ko magamit sa MCE. anyways, this seems like a better solution than me getting a seperate touch-screen monitor to control my MCE machine without turning on my TV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 04, 2005 at 02:25 PM
sana lang e makakuha at a discounted price..   bale wala VFD and IR ng Ahanix ko (1st gen Ahanix D4), hindi ko magamit sa MCE. anyways, this seems like a better solution than me getting a seperate touch-screen monitor to control my MCE machine without turning on my TV.

ok yan if you want to use your music library lang :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on May 06, 2005 at 01:44 PM
Gyus,

Check ous cases also by www.hifiatx.com.

These cases make your PC look like a true high grade audio electronics.

Para bang, Mark Levinson or Classe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on May 07, 2005 at 01:45 PM
ok to a! may distrubutor ba to sa US? and june '05 pa available.
as in totally fanless. may option kaya to install diffrent VFD besides iMon? yung directly supported sana ng windows mce

Gyus,

Check ous cases also by www.hifiatx.com.

These cases make your PC look like a true high grade audio electronics.

Para bang, Mark Levinson or Classe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 08, 2005 at 01:34 AM
ok to a! may distrubutor ba to sa US? and june '05 pa available.
as in totally fanless. may option kaya to install diffrent VFD besides iMon? yung directly supported sana ng windows mce


Malamang you can change the VFD or order it without one and just get something like a matrix orbital or something. Alam ko yung Imon VFD does not support MCE simply because may kasama siyang frontend software that the LCD was made for.  Sayang nga eh... Also checkout the new cases from ahanix, they look high end also... MCE302 http://www.ahanix.com/ahanix_product.asp?pid=27 and also the MCE401 http://www.ahanix.com/ahanix_product.asp?pid=28

the MCE401 looks very much like the Alienware HTPC.  Maganda pa... you can mod the front door cover with a slot, and place a Slot load DVD drive! if you have the resources to have it professionally milled.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on May 08, 2005 at 10:37 AM
Gyus,

Check ous cases also by www.hifiatx.com.

These cases make your PC look like a true high grade audio electronics.

Para bang, Mark Levinson or Classe.

Andaleon,

Gandang HTPC Case to parang FM acoustic... ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on May 08, 2005 at 10:44 AM
Phew...I love the interesting new HTPC case. Great post GM  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on May 08, 2005 at 10:47 AM
Jay,

Do you have HTPC case for sale? pero yung medyo affordaboys ha!!?  ;D
Quite tired looking at my ShuttleX HTPC. I might sell this unit nalang.
Medyo nakakasawa. Limited PCI card slot kc puro external tuloy gamit ko kakainis. :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 08, 2005 at 03:08 PM
Jay,

Do you have HTPC case for sale? pero yung medyo affordaboys ha!!?  ;D
Quite tired looking at my ShuttleX HTPC. I might sell this unit nalang.
Medyo nakakasawa. Limited PCI card slot kc puro external tuloy gamit ko kakainis. :(

I'm ordering some cases from silverstone soon, LC10M, but its for our inventory kasi, but if you want let me know if you want to order a case para i sabay ko lang sa order. I'm not sure how much shipping cost will be yet but baka pumatak ng mga 8k -9k isang case. Di kasi bulk order kaya mahal. Ganun talaga ang price eh... even if I order from factory... yung dinagdag ko lang dyan is an estimate for the shipping cost. Anyway let me know. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on May 08, 2005 at 10:02 PM
Here's a very good one from Silverstone:

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/lc14m/34%20view/LC14BM.jpg)

I'm using one of this.  I love the remote function.

Plenty of room and can accomodate a full ATX board.

Here is the link:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc14m.htm
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 09, 2005 at 01:39 AM
Andaleon,

Cool, what are your thoughts on that enclosure? I was thinking of that case too, but I dont know how functional the hotkey buttons are...what software does the case use to interface the buttons in front? I need a dual Optical Drive bay case also.  How is the construction of the case? does it feel solid? I had the chance to assemble an HTPC on a LC01 but I was not so satisfied with the case's construction, it did not feel as solid as the Aristec Cases we have been using. I just recently decided on switching from arisetec to silverstone mainly becuase shipping is easier from Taiwan than Korea, but I do love the aristec cases especially now that their HT-400 can be ordered with a spring door (instead of a bezel) and 2 80mm exhaust fans at the back. I'm still looking for a shipper that will make my headaches go away if I order items from korea.

Can you take snaps of your case? Thanks dude!

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on May 10, 2005 at 11:35 AM
Here's a very good one from Silverstone:

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/lc14m/34%20view/LC14BM.jpg)

I'm using one of this.  I love the remote function.

Plenty of room and can accomodate a full ATX board.

Here is the link:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc14m.htm

Sir what is the s.r.p. for this specific case?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on May 10, 2005 at 11:41 AM
Jay,

The buttons on the LC-14M are fully functional. It's very neat --like using regular transport buttons.

Remote is by iMon.

Case is very well constructed and solid! The optical bay doors are spring loaded.

But when the HifiATX comes to market, I'm selling this one.

Anthony Andaleon
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on May 10, 2005 at 01:43 PM
new cases.. new gastos  :)
plano ko rin mag palit ng case by june or july.. benta ko rin yung Ahanix D.Vine 5 ko. currently beta testing emerald so I hope bago ma release I could get hold of any of these sweet cases.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on May 16, 2005 at 01:39 PM
Pasingit lang po -- ;D

got dual 256ddr, 80 gig HD (30 for os / 50 video file).. i am presently trying to enter the video editing world so upgrade is in my mind..

what would u think should i upgrade first, the memory or the HD? thnks for any insights.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on May 16, 2005 at 02:43 PM
Pasingit lang po -- ;D

got dual 256ddr, 80 gig HD (30 for os / 50 video file).. i am presently trying to enter the video editing world so upgrade is in my mind..

what would u think should i upgrade first, the memory or the HD? thnks for any insights.

sir, is your hdd 7200 rpm already? if so, you may want to change your dual ddr to a single 512mb ddr400.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on May 16, 2005 at 04:14 PM
bro Bumble, ur saying that i have to start my upgrade with the memory? if ever .. i will have to get two 512 -- right?

btw, my HD is 7200 rpm already... ty. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bumblebee on May 16, 2005 at 04:37 PM
bro Bumble, ur saying that i have to start my upgrade with the memory? if ever .. i will have to get two 512 -- right?

btw, my HD is 7200 rpm already... ty. :)

they say single is better than dual. so instead of 2 512mb, get one 1Gb.

i suggested a memory upgrade or side-grade (single 512mp) assuming the hdd is 7200 rpm. if the hdd is a 5400 rpm-er, i would have suggested an hdd upgrade.

if i may add, video processing has more to do w/ the processor. but this is a more expensive route as you may have to change your board too.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on May 17, 2005 at 08:48 AM
Bro bumble tnx for all ur insights -- i checked the prices 1 GB of DDR is more expensive pala than 2 512"s.   :-\ Maybe i really have to think it over.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 17, 2005 at 11:41 AM
Does anyone know where to get Haupaggue PVR-250s in the philippines? or wala talagang nag papasok nun...? last resort ko talaga is to order abroad
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on May 23, 2005 at 10:30 PM
nice monitor n very nice price! do you find the 1920x1200 resolution too big for the 26" screen or just right? have you tried 1080p on 'em? how is it for watching dvd's? thanks!
On what display do you display 1080p? AFAIK they're coming out months from now.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on May 23, 2005 at 10:34 PM
My still messy HTPC Setup:

Intel P4 2.6c
2 x 256 MB DDR400
2 x 80Gb Seagate Harddisks
Samsung DVD-ROM Drive
Sony DRU-510ULX External DVD Writer
Inno3D GeForceFX 5600 128mb
1 x Jetway PCI-TV TV Tuner Card
Altec Lansing PowerCube 45.1 powered by onboard audio (I know, i know!!!)
Logitech RF wireless keyboard and mouse
Snapstream Firefly RF Remote
Driving a Samsung ST-50L2HX 50-inch DLP Widescreen TV via VGA port

Running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005

Watching WMV-HD content at 720p and 1080p is awesome!!! Doom 3 is also a sight to behold... :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/rene_canlas/IMG_2577.jpg)
Not that I dont believe you but can your Samsung really do 1080p?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on May 24, 2005 at 03:02 AM
On what display do you display 1080p? AFAIK they're coming out months from now.

i dont, my display is limited to 720p. i was talking about jambam's dell monitor which does 1920x1200. 1080p has been available for some time, mostly in some 40+ inch lcd tv's (i.e. samsung has one, sharp has one, etc), prohibitively expensive though... the 24" dell monitor that jambam got has a native resolution of 1920x1200 and can therefor display 1080p resolution
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on May 24, 2005 at 02:08 PM
Quote
i dont, my display is limited to 720p. i was talking about jambam's dell monitor which does 1920x1200. 1080p has been available for some time, mostly in some 40+ inch lcd tv's (i.e. samsung has one, sharp has one, etc), prohibitively expensive though... the 24" dell monitor that jambam got has a native resolution of 1920x1200 and can therefor display 1080p resolution

Using a 24" monitor w/c is primarily for my PC means that you have to be conscious to back off a bit when watching Video.  When watching 1080i and 720p videos you still  see some blockiness when you are sitting too close. I am not sure whether this was the source or the way the video was encoded , but the fast action scenes on LOTR 3 was quite blocky. But Star Trooper in 1080i was really excellent ...

BUt be ready to upgrade your HTPC setup' when you start viewing HD video's , My athon xp 2400 oc to 3400+ sometimes stutters ... I think I need to upgrade to a A64 w/ venice core...And lot's more storage..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DViant on May 26, 2005 at 08:37 PM
I'm guessing the blockiness is attributed to the picture not being at the native resolution?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on May 27, 2005 at 02:26 AM
Finally! Realtime AC3 encoding in hardware (http://www.bluegears.com/soundcard_xmystique.html)
im not sure about the price (http://www.bluebonepc.com/catalog/detail.asp?id=SD-BG-HDA%20X-Mystique) though but it seems worth it. hintayin ko muna mga personal reviews before diving into getting one.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 27, 2005 at 04:57 AM
Finally! Realtime AC3 encoding in hardware (http://www.bluegears.com/soundcard_xmystique.html)
im not sure about the price (http://www.bluebonepc.com/catalog/detail.asp?id=SD-BG-HDA%20X-Mystique) though but it seems worth it. hintayin ko muna mga personal review before diving into getting one.

Yeah I read a review on this card it seems to be pretty good, only draw back I think is the lack of inputs? it does not have aux in or CD in I forgot, but the review is more on the good.  Dolby Digital Live!

You can actually buy boards that already have DDlive in them, the Soundstorm Nforce2, and the newer Intel boards for the LGA 775 chips.  I forgot the chipset alam ko lang intel ang gumawa, built in na yung DDlive sa motherboard.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Jun 08, 2005 at 01:19 PM
how much na ba m audio ngayon jay?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 08, 2005 at 03:58 PM
how much na ba m audio ngayon jay?

Di ko alam ang presyo ngayon eh, dati I think it was 7,250.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Jun 10, 2005 at 02:15 PM
for htpc users selling my maudio packaged with dvi to component dongle 7k lang ty
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Jun 18, 2005 at 11:59 AM
Updated Set-up and New Paintjob:

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TwCRAj8XcJ4!bgZudB4Zkb4C6tTYGYkX6PbNKAJCWRSCqSG*XXkYviGxdeCyU7AlFcijnjO*ydSyqIzMU7gMkguUB6JgkdRYxhrWES6gOFZJyelwFZp*JQ/Water%20and%20Fire.jpg?dc=4675527110084904111)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQDhApgVlRxNtVohEHKzvyIg0wAdgcaenM*C0jL0lULCznAITM3!!zZxvq*oeexzeZi!p4GyCeolv8h63hc!GZwxx4O1f!kRQRi44FHJVDVX5xnGCLfOJg/comp2%20copy.jpg?dc=4675527087198375510)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QgAAAFcTeH94n9KyJ5mwGRWjEPDxClg2u94XkYdu4yc6srCxsteZ3zW2Jcx0WvL4MTSLdZReuV5tbM9ZPmhCkm!Wb67YQknDO!8WOyNj9bg/comp3.jpg?dc=4675527087203620142)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QgDhAlkT8H!Iks*SHxabNyak89olroVcK9C43fkwnlnGaORDEuJayH5SWzGy3XDDpwRMDKQqArS4aNrJnfD95jmW3RVglPpm65kNY63dNxk/comp5.jpg?dc=4675527087212194170)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QgDxAlgTtH88GPxw*9SKEDq0QmvtuzAR*9uBjilsrn0Ko!*aab3bKvEyTjIxvfL9dMPA12fYcms0lBTzZQQsIs9hHNohEUf37RSknoet0lQ/comp4.jpg?dc=4675527087207374262)


1.) Processor:                 AMD Athlon 64 FX-55

2.) Motherboard:            AN-8SLI Deluxe Motherboard.

3.)Videocards:                Dual NVIDIA 6800 Ultra PCI-E 16 Video Cards in SLI Mode.

4.) Hard Drives:
                 4.1) System Drive:       Two WD 34 GB 10,000 RPM Raptor SATA RAID 0    
                 4.2) Data Drive:           Two Maxtor 300 GB SATA RAID 0, 7200 RPM, 16MB Cache   
                 4.3) Scratch Pad:         Two Maxtor 300GB SATA Non-RAID, 7200 RPM, 16MB Cache

5.) Sound Card:     Lynx Audio TWO-B Sound Card AES/EBU output

6.) RAM:      2 GB PC-3200RAM

7.) Optical Drive:   Sony DVD DRU-720 Dual Layer DVD+-R/RW drive.

8.) OS:      Windows XP Professional

9.) TV Tuner Card:   Fusion Gold 3-T HDTV Card

10.) Case:                   Cooler Master Stacker PC Case- Custom Paint (Automotive Paint)

11.) Liquid Cooling:   
                11.1) CPU:                               Coolermaster Aquagate Mini R80
                11.2) VPU:                               Thermaltake Bigwater Water
                11.3) VPU Water Block:            Koolance VID- NV2-L06 (one each per video card)

12.) Air Cooling:   
                12.1) Coolermaster Crossflow Fan
                12.2) Coolermaster 4-in3 Device Module (2) to cool the Hard Drives

13.) Power Supplies:      Two Antec 350 W each Phantom 350 Fanless
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GM on Jun 18, 2005 at 03:15 PM
^ sweet!!  O0
Title: Xmystique 7.1 Survey
Post by: jpadua on Jul 28, 2005 at 02:40 PM
Hi,

I've been in talks with Bluegears for their Dolby Digital Live Sound Card the X-mystique 7.1, I would like to make a little survey if anyone here might consider purchasing one.  I'm not sure about pricing yet, but definately it wont cost more than an audigy 2, might be even less if we bring it in.

(http://www.hidiaudio.com/products/xm71_240.jpg)

For more information on the XMystique 7.1
http://www.hidiaudio.com/products/mystique.html

Here are some reviews
3Dxtreme
http://www.3dxtreme.net/index.php?id=hdax-mystique1
NGO HQ
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Articles&go=read&arc_id=29
Gamepyre
http://www.gamepyre.com/reviewsd.html?aid=592&p=1






Let me know what you think... send me a PM thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: LtCool on Jul 29, 2005 at 06:47 PM
guys, I have an idea, buildin HTPC via bluetooth interface. the idea is to bypass the IR-Remote which uses line-of-sight.

Bluetooth enable mobile phone + FMA + bluetooth dongle combination.

FMA is an application interface software that enables you to control PCs via bluetooth enable cellphone. You can use the mobile phone as your remote, you can open applications on your computer using only your mobile phone. PowerDVD, Winamp, WinDVD, etc.  Audio Volume can also be regulated thru the mobile phone.

here's the FMA link:

 http://fma.sourceforge.net/

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 31, 2005 at 01:53 AM
guys, I have an idea, buildin HTPC via bluetooth interface. the idea is to bypass the IR-Remote which uses line-of-sight.

Bluetooth enable mobile phone + FMA + bluetooth dongle combination.

FMA is an application interface software that enables you to control PCs via bluetooth enable cellphone. You can use the mobile phone as your remote, you can open applications on your computer using only your mobile phone. PowerDVD, Winamp, WinDVD, etc.  Audio Volume can also be regulated thru the mobile phone.

here's the FMA link:

 http://fma.sourceforge.net/

Cheers,
-LtCool-


You can do that even without FMA.  I remote control my htpc with my K700i and a bluetooth dongle.  The dongle comes with its own widdcom drivers.  You just have to disable windows XP's own BT drivers and set the BT driver to the widcomm one (the CD that comes with the dongle)  Once BT Widcomm drivers are up and running you can control the computer already via BT.

If you own a K700i google for the HID configuration editor, you can create your own remote control interface and assign keys and mouse movements to your K700i
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: LtCool on Aug 01, 2005 at 03:14 PM
Any approach would be acceptable but if your not using K700i with no built-in remote control, HID setup would not be possible. I for one use the legacy T610 which I find FMA the easiest approach, launching any windows applications like explorer can do.


Cheers,
-LtCool- 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: fweyd on Aug 16, 2005 at 06:42 PM
ask ko lang about TV Tuners...

ano po ba ang pinaka ok na TV Tuner dito ?? pano po yung Sound nun ?? san ko kakabit ?? thnx


im planning on building an HTPC / Gaming PC setup kc e.. pero ung 19" Viewsonic na Monitor ko lang gagamitin.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 17, 2005 at 05:05 AM
ask ko lang about TV Tuners...

ano po ba ang pinaka ok na TV Tuner dito ?? pano po yung Sound nun ?? san ko kakabit ?? thnx


im planning on building an HTPC / Gaming PC setup kc e.. pero ung 19" Viewsonic na Monitor ko lang gagamitin.. :)

actually the best sana would be a Hauppague PVR150, kaso walang ganun dito sa pinas... the best you can do is a leadtek PVR2000, hardware mpeg2 encoder.  Kung on a budget ka, yung winfast TV expert pwede na. Although limitado ka sa leadtek software application lang pero it does the job well.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: fweyd on Aug 17, 2005 at 11:11 PM
so bali yung cable ng skycable kakabit ko nalang sa TV tuner ko?? what about the sound po??  ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 18, 2005 at 04:50 AM
so bali yung cable ng skycable kakabit ko nalang sa TV tuner ko?? what about the sound po??  ???

yup kabit mo lang.. yung sound manggagaling sa soundcard mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Aug 18, 2005 at 07:43 AM
I had an HTPC setup way way back when the top of the line models were the p3-600 and athlon 450's and the video card that I am uding was the original G force video card. It was the only way to go as I cannot afford a dedicated scaler. When the scalers were cheap enough, I bought an Esi Vls2000 for my home theatre set up. this unit was capable of a maximun resolution of 960p and uses genesis chips.  From then on, I did not use my htpc anymore (athlon 1.7 with ati8500 videocard). Htpc's do not need the best processor, videocard that money can buy. especially today, wherein midrange configurations will do great.

Today I have a neu neo dvd player which can upconvert dvd's t0 1080p for hd and up to 1366 by 768 for computer resolution. With this setup I dont need any htpc anymore to have the resolution that I want. I know that you can tailor fit the htpc exactly to the best resolution and refresh rate that your device can show, but the advantage of having a plug and play device in your theatre system is more important to me than the constant fiddling with the pc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Aug 18, 2005 at 11:41 AM
I too have a taste of both.

I have had the best scaler - a Faroudja DVP 1080HD that can do 1080P,on my new Sony Qualia Projector. My Ayre D1X DVD player ($8000 DVD player) was fed DVI into the Faroudja.

You are right AlvinTHX, that was easy to use and no fiddling necessary.

However, the HTPC I have now can beat that combination. And yes, my HTPC isn't cheap but it still cheaper than my Farourdja/Ayre combo.

Plus, inside that HTPC is an all inclusive solution. All my music , all my DVD and all my High Def files are archived inside the box. No more loading and unloading discs!! I have even forgotten my Ayre DVD player!

My HTPC also serves as my HD Tuner and, man---- you should feel the way DOOM3 and Half Life (if that is your thing.) play on this sucker!  It will make you run out of the room!!!!!!!

With the right interface and the right remote, the HTPC should not feel like a PC at all.

Even my techno - phobe wife (she's a very smart woman BTW-just don't like computers) can play the system with one remote.

In short, the HTPC has really gone a looongway from the days your were fiddling with it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 18, 2005 at 02:58 PM
andaleon I totally agree with you :)  once you have it setup the way you want.... theres really no need to fiddle.  not unless youre a tweak freak then, endless fiddling nga yan. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Aug 18, 2005 at 09:49 PM
ako im caught in between, i appreciate the flexibility of htpc's pero sometimes i prefer the convenience of consumer electronics eqpt... siguro for me ang ideal setup eh a combination of both, an htpc for much of the work (i.e. ripping dvds/music cd's, watching hi def clips, etc) and a networked dvd/media player (with upscaling and playing content off of a networked attached storage or via a usb connection) for those moments when i just want to keep things simple.

some of the more interesting networked dvd/media players that im eyeing:
    http://www.snazio.com/Links/Net%20DVD%20Cinema(new).htm
    http://www.z500series.com/

oh and let's not forget the next gen consoles and hi def dvd formats, ahhh, so many things to look forward to hehe
Title: Dolby Digital Live PCI soundcards have arrived!
Post by: jpadua on Aug 19, 2005 at 03:04 PM
Dumating na pala yung mga Xmystique DDlive Soundcards! anyone interested pm nyo ako :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: m0rtein on Aug 26, 2005 at 12:40 PM
hi Jpadua,

My HTPC setup:

MSI Mega 865 cube pc
pentium 4 2.4Ghz
1GB Memory
80 GB Barracuda
ATI all-in-wonder x800 XT
Liteon Combo drive
Creative Audgiy 2 platinum pro
Logitech 5300 5.1 speakers
Infocus X2 projector

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

San b nkakabili ng water cooling system? gusto ko kc palitan ung sa MSI 865 ingay kc ng fan and sobrang init. San ba meron nun Aquagate? Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: snapy on Aug 26, 2005 at 12:58 PM
advisable ba bumili ng 2 xeon processors? and a bunch of rams? ??? make ur pc a server one
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: m0rtein on Aug 26, 2005 at 02:22 PM
Tanong lng po! San b nkakabili ng mga HTPC cases. puro kc tower case nakikita ko eh. HTPC rulez!!!!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Aug 26, 2005 at 10:16 PM
I saw at PC Options Gilmore selling Lian Li Desktop case (similar flat laying case as a HTPC)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 26, 2005 at 11:20 PM
Tanong lng po! San b nkakabili ng mga HTPC cases. puro kc tower case nakikita ko eh. HTPC rulez!!!!!!

Yeah hirap talaga mag hanap nyan dito, wala kasing market kaya walang malaking distro dito na nag papasok ng htpc na case, although I think meron dito na htpc case called Cavalier, dunno lang who distributes it... also ang extereme modz dati marami pa silang stock ng htpc case di ata bumenta.... wala na sila sa greenhills, but I'm sure they have kept their stock... its a matter of finding a contact lang.

I'll be ordering HTPC cases from my supplier in korea next month, if you want I can add an extra order for you para sabay na... just pay for the actual cost plus shipping.  I'll be getting HT-540s from Arisetec, visit their website www.arisetec.com and see which case you might want and let me know before I place my order... dati na kasi ako customer nila. kaso may pagka mahalan ng konti kasi limited lang yung orders ko sa kanila.. plus yung customs dito taga...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andaleon on Aug 27, 2005 at 12:15 PM
San b nkakabili ng water cooling system? gusto ko kc palitan ung sa MSI 865 ingay kc ng fan and sobrang init. San ba meron nun Aquagate? Thanks!!!

I had Aquagate and I really can not recommend it.

It does not do a good job in cooling. It's simple to install but you would be better off with some Zalman fans.

I don't know about shipping and other cost, but my sources here in the US are:

www.frozencpu.com
www.performance-pcs.com
www.xoxide.com

Now for the ultimate in water cooling:

www.dangerden.com

Hope these help.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: joey on Sep 23, 2005 at 05:18 PM
intel xt
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 27, 2005 at 04:18 AM
Pasali mga Bosing ;D ;)

Processor      Amd Athlon 64 3400

Motherboard   ASUS K8V SE Deluxe

Video card     ASUS N6600 GeForce 6200 256MB AGP-8X

RAM             Geil 2 GB PC400 DDR SDRAM W/ RAMSINK

Hard Drives      1 SEAGATE 120GB SATA
                    1 SEAGATE 200GB SATA

Sound Card            Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum Pro THX/DD/DTS

Speaker         Logitech Z-5500 Digital, a THX®-certified, DTS/DD 500-watt 5.1 speaker system

Monitor             ViewSonic E90f+SB 19-inch Monitor

Optical Drive         Lite-On SOHW-1653SX 16x Dual Layer DVD±RW External Drive
                   Sony DRX-800UL 16x Double Layer/DUAL LAYER DVD±RW Drive
                   PIONEER 16X DVD ROM

Tv Tuner                 Leadtek WinFast TV USB II

Casing            Lian Li PC-7 Black Aluminum Mid Tower ATX Case

Power Supply         HEC WinPower 550-Watts Power Supply

UPS                  APC Back-UPS RS 1000VA

Floppy Drive        Sony Black 1.44

Keyboard          Logitech Cordless MX 700 Duo Optical

Mouse              Logitech® MX™1000 Laser Cordless Mouse

Mouse Pad         Thick bond paper ;D

Gaming Accesories     Logitech® MOMO® Racing
              Microsoft SideWinder Dual Strike
               Microsoft SideWinder game pad
Decoder          Sigma Designs’ REALmagic Xcard™
                REALmagic™ Hollywood Plus

Hey nice specs you got there :) where did you get your Xcard? Do you use a front end?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: joey on Sep 27, 2005 at 11:08 AM
My cousin from hawaii gave it to me(Xcard) im using this for my Love nest den as second setup.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Sep 28, 2005 at 07:36 AM
hi! i have this sort of a card-a videologic with a sigma design chipset (dvd decoder). para saan ba ito? it was included in the computer that was given to me by my cousin eh, but have since not used the computer at kinahuyan ko na lang. can anyone shed me some information on this. i have surfed for it in the internet pero di ko pa rin ma gets kung para saan ito...i mean what can it do my system? i have an athlon64 with leadtek winfast tv.  will this card improve my dvd watching via my pc? btw here is a link of the now discontinued product...http://www.videologic.com/Products/VL-60355/ProductFeatures.asp?Product=VL-60355
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: joey on Sep 28, 2005 at 09:41 AM
hi! i have this sort of a card-a videologic with a sigma design chipset (dvd decoder). para saan ba ito? it was included in the computer that was given to me by my cousin eh, but have since not used the computer at kinahuyan ko na lang. can anyone shed me some information on this. i have surfed for it in the internet pero di ko pa rin ma gets kung para saan ito...i mean what can it do my system? i have an athlon64 with leadtek winfast tv.  will this card improve my dvd watching via my pc? btw here is a link of the now discontinued product...http://www.videologic.com/Products/VL-60355/ProductFeatures.asp?Product=VL-60355

i think thats the same with my sigma dvd decoder. it enhances the viewing and audio of a dvd you play. you can also hook it in a A/V reciever the spdif out. the video out can also be hook in any input viewing(ie.. tv, projector, monitor etc...) 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 29, 2005 at 05:01 AM
hi! i have this sort of a card-a videologic with a sigma design chipset (dvd decoder). para saan ba ito? it was included in the computer that was given to me by my cousin eh, but have since not used the computer at kinahuyan ko na lang. can anyone shed me some information on this. i have surfed for it in the internet pero di ko pa rin ma gets kung para saan ito...i mean what can it do my system? i have an athlon64 with leadtek winfast tv.  will this card improve my dvd watching via my pc? btw here is a link of the now discontinued product...http://www.videologic.com/Products/VL-60355/ProductFeatures.asp?Product=VL-60355

What you have is a hardware DVD Decoder.  Its like having a set top DVD player, but it uses power from your Powersupply and your DVD-rom drive. The good thing about it, is that even if you are running a very low spec CPU, the sigma card will have all the stress not your CPU.  Since naka athlon64 ka na you dont really need it.  A regular Video card, can do hardware DVD decode.  You can already use software DVD players like winDVD or PowerDVD and have even better results.

You dont really need it  anymore with what you have.  Put that card on a Pentium 2 or something para usefull :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Nov 19, 2005 at 04:23 PM
Anything new on the HTPC front? havent heard from this thread in a while, by the way I finally got my Silverstone LC16m! will take pictures and post later!

Other heads up,

the latest pure video decoders are out, use them with the latest nvidia drivers, they can now process 1080i material.  If you have a 6600GT and up, go grab the new drivers and codecs :)
Title: New DTS realtime Encoding Soundcards finally!
Post by: jpadua on Nov 21, 2005 at 03:16 AM
HDA, same makers of the Xmystique have finally released their new, Xplosion 7.1 and Xraider 7.1 cards.  Both can do both Dolby Digital Live realtime encoding, and also DTS Connect realtime encoding!!!

Main difference of the Xplosion and Xraider

Xplosion - upgradable opamps similar to Xmystique
Xraider - no upgradable opamps, but has front panel connectors

Check it out here.

http://www.bluegears.com
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: audiofreak on Dec 04, 2005 at 04:42 PM
mga sirs. may question ako. I'm planning to setup my HTPC. I just purchased a LCD/TV with only HDMI as tv out nya. Walang DVI na pwede ko connect sa PC ko. If ever, saan nakakabili ng connector para sa DVI? I already have an adaptor to convert DVI to HDMI. yung cable na lang ang kulang. Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 05, 2005 at 12:20 AM
mga sirs. may question ako. I'm planning to setup my HTPC. I just purchased a LCD/TV with only HDMI as tv out nya. Walang DVI na pwede ko connect sa PC ko. If ever, saan nakakabili ng connector para sa DVI? I already have an adaptor to convert DVI to HDMI. yung cable na lang ang kulang. Thanks!

Wala bang PC input yung LCD/TV mo? (VGA) To what I know, DVI to HDMI is still flaky, you can try it though, in a lot of forums, a lot of people have problems getting the correct resolution, or some dont even send out a signal.  Although there are some who report that it works fine with their displays.  You can order DVI-D cables in Greenhills (the parking lot in front of Virramall) the name of the store is smart systems corporation. Their store doesnt really look like a store, it looks more like a repair center, but they have DVI-D cables and VGA cables for sale.

If you can in the meantime try using VGA instead.  The difference is hardly discernable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Dec 05, 2005 at 01:40 AM
Just wanted to share the excellent wireless keyboard I bought at Columbia Computer Store MegaMall.

I'm an HTPC enthusiast using Media Center Edition 2005 and I've been looking for just the right wireless keyboard for my setup. 

I wanted one with the mouse built-in so that I could use the keyboard on my lap from my couch. IR keyboards were out of the question because they were too bothersome to use (you had to point the keyboard sensor at the IR receiver at all times and they didn't work very well in well-lit environments), so it had to use Radio Frequency (RF).  The popular Logitech wireless keyboards used RF, but the range was only 6 feet (There's 8 feet between my TV and couch). 

Needless to say, I had a hard time finding a keyboard which met all of my requirements.

I was casually browsing through the store, when I stumbled onto this:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/rene_canlas/BTC%20Wireless%20Keyboard/DSC01868.jpg)

BTC 9019URF Wireless Keyboard - Php 2,010.00
- Has built-in thumb-stick which functions as a mouse and as a joystick for games :)
- Lots of multimedia hotkeys, and scroll buttons
- Dual Channel (255 IDs)
- 27MHz Operational Frequency :)
- Range is 4.5 meters or 14.76 feet from the receiver :)
- 2 x AA Batteries (will last approximately 1.5 months at 4 hours per day usage)
- Comes with a USB receiver, 2 x AA batteries, Quick Install Guide, Manual and Driver CD

Here are some more pictures:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/rene_canlas/BTC%20Wireless%20Keyboard/DSC01872.jpg)
Back of the box

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/rene_canlas/BTC%20Wireless%20Keyboard/DSC01873.jpg)
Close-up of the thumb-stick

Build quality is quite good.  The keyboard has a solid feel to it, being contructed of very dense plastic.  There are holes at each end that help the user grip the keyboard.  The keys on the keyboard have the normal width as those found on desktop keyboards, but are shallower (but not as shallow as those found on laptop keyboards).  The multimedia keys don't look that nice (looks like the buttons on the remote of a cheap DVD player), but they do the work.  Pairing the keyboard with the included USB receiver was painless and I had no problems using it with MCE 2005.  The manual indicates that the keyboard has several status LEDs on it but I have not found them yet. It says that you need to install the drivers on the CD to activate the status LEDs.

Will give you more feedback on ease of use and reliability as I use the keyboard.

Update:

There are no LEDs on the unit...The LEDs the manual were referring to were onscreen on the Windows system tray.  There are indicator icons for displaying the remaining battery life on the keyboard, and for the usual caps lock, num lock and scroll lock.  As the manual indicated, you will have to install the software from the CD to enable these features.

The USB receiver has a button on top that is used for pairing the receiver and the keyboard using one of the 255 IDs available.  Once paired, this button has a built in LED that acts as an activity indicator, flashing to indicate whenever it is receiving data from the keyboard.

I find the thumb-stick very easy to use.  Response time is very nice and tracking is very smooth.  The thumb-stick auto-centers when you let go, and does not cause mouse drift.  Like a PS2 controller, you can press down on the thumb-stick and it will do a left mouse-click (there is also a dedicated button that does that on the opposite end of the keyboard, along with one that does right-click).  To the immediate left of the thumb-stick is a pair of buttons that emulate a scrollwheel.  On the right is a button for that emulates a mouse's middle button.

Oh, did I mention that the thumb-stick can also be used as a joystick for games? :)  Pressing FN-F12 will enable the joystick functionality.  It will be detected as a "USB Human Interface Device" in Control Panel | Game Controllers.  The 4 mouse buttons and the 2 scroll buttons become 6 joystick buttons.  Pressing FN-F11 re-enables the mouse functionality.  Of course with the weird layout of the buttons, only buttons 1 and 2 (left and right mouse buttons) will actually be usable for gaming.

The range of the keyboard is also very good.  I can use it from the couch without any difficulty, which more than what I can say for my Logitech wireless keyboard.  Will try to test the maximum range of the keyboard and whether the signal will go through walls/doors.

Update:

Just tried the keyboard from the next room with the door closed.  It still works!


Rene
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Dec 05, 2005 at 07:07 AM
senor rene,

this is a very good keyboard... can you tell me via pm where you got this?

thanks!!!
-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Dec 05, 2005 at 07:56 AM
senor rene,

this is a very good keyboard... can you tell me via pm where you got this?

thanks!!!
-jackryan 8)

no need for pm, it's right there - Columbia Megamall
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Dec 05, 2005 at 08:28 AM
no need for pm, it's right there - Columbia Megamall

you're right... i think i need to upgrade my glasses pretty soon.... :-)  might be the effect of too much airsoft pellets coming may way every weekends hehehe...  ;D

btw, this is much cooler than the wireless acer keyboard i got from HK before... hope there is a unit being sold somewhere near makati though... have to check whether columbia has a branch within Makati area...

thanks...

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: audiofreak on Dec 05, 2005 at 08:51 AM
Wala bang PC input yung LCD/TV mo? (VGA) To what I know, DVI to HDMI is still flaky, you can try it though, in a lot of forums, a lot of people have problems getting the correct resolution, or some dont even send out a signal.  Although there are some who report that it works fine with their displays.  You can order DVI-D cables in Greenhills (the parking lot in front of Virramall) the name of the store is smart systems corporation. Their store doesnt really look like a store, it looks more like a repair center, but they have DVI-D cables and VGA cables for sale.

If you can in the meantime try using VGA instead.  The difference is hardly discernable.

Sir, i don't think may vga cable yung lcd/tv ko. The model is Philips 32PF7320A. And ito lang yung available connections nya

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Dec 05, 2005 at 10:57 AM
Just updated my "review" of the BTC Wireless Keyboard (see my previous post)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Dec 05, 2005 at 11:01 AM
Anything new on the HTPC front? havent heard from this thread in a while, by the way I finally got my Silverstone LC16m! will take pictures and post later!

Nice! Congrats!

Quote
Other heads up,

the latest pure video decoders are out, use them with the latest nvidia drivers, they can now process 1080i material.  If you have a 6600GT and up, go grab the new drivers and codecs :)

May bayad itong drivers na ito diba? If not, where can I get them?  Thanks!

Rene
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Dec 05, 2005 at 11:05 AM
you're right... i think i need to upgrade my glasses pretty soon.... :-)  might be the effect of too much airsoft pellets coming may way every weekends hehehe...  ;D

btw, this is much cooler than the wireless acer keyboard i got from HK before... hope there is a unit being sold somewhere near makati though... have to check whether columbia has a branch within Makati area...

thanks...

-jackryan 8)

jackryan,

They have a branch in Park Square 1.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Dec 06, 2005 at 01:01 PM
OK yan BTC wireless keyboard, it has very good reviews sa AVSforum and sa HTPC news.  Going to use those on my next builds... was supposed to bring them in... looks like its here already... cool.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: zerone_null on Dec 28, 2005 at 03:09 AM
cool keyboard :) will get that as replacement for the MX DUO keyboard i literally threw out the window cos i got so pissed at the irregular response.  (It crashed on the street below and no i did not hit anyone thank God) hehe. 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jan 01, 2006 at 03:16 PM
yup the keyboard is quite good , bought one myself yesterday...

Jay ... I saw your HTPC setup being sold at the Hi Fi Lounge in Festival Mall ...looks very classy
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jomargon on Jan 02, 2006 at 11:50 AM
Here's mine:

HP Media Center m7160n Photosmart PC

Processor      Pentium D 820

RAM             1.5 GB PC2-3200 DDR2 SDRAM

Video card     NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT

Hard Drive      250GB 7200RPM Serial ATA

Speaker         Logitech Z-5500

Built-in tv-tuner, fm radio tuner, card reader, dual sound panel (front and back), dual av connector (front and back), media bay drive, media center remote control

Monitor             HP vs17 LCD

Optical Drive     HP Lightscribe Dual Layer DVD±RW External Drive
                         HP DVD-ROM
                           
UPS                  APC Back-UPS

Mouse              Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 03, 2006 at 01:55 AM
Here's mine:

HP Media Center m7160n Photosmart PC

Processor      Pentium D 820

RAM             1.5 GB PC2-3200 DDR2 SDRAM

Video card     NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT

Hard Drive      250GB 7200RPM Serial ATA

Speaker         Logitech Z-5500

Built-in tv-tuner, fm radio tuner, card reader, dual sound panel (front and back), dual av connector (front and back), media bay drive, media center remote control

Monitor             HP vs17 LCD

Optical Drive     HP Lightscribe Dual Layer DVD±RW External Drive
                         HP DVD-ROM
                           
UPS                  APC Back-UPS

Mouse              Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse

Cool, post a pic!!! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 03, 2006 at 02:18 AM
Purevideo registry hack,

this registry hack adds some hidden functions sa purevideo, Edge Enhancement and Noise Reduction.

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Filters\Video]
"EnablePropPage"=dword:00000001
"PureVideoPropPage"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Filters\Audio]
"EnablePropPage"=dword:00000001
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jomargon on Jan 04, 2006 at 08:19 PM
how do I post a pic?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Jan 04, 2006 at 11:24 PM
To post pics

1.  At the point, pls. be sure to make any necessary modifications to the photo (ie. resize, cropping, etc)

2. Proceed to a free pic upload server like www.imageshack.us and et al.

3. Follow on-screen instructions on the website. May differ depending on the company.

4. After uploading pic(s) in the server, be sure to copy the exact URL of the pic. Example: http://www.imageshack.us/image001.jpg

5. In the reply form of the forum, Affix the tags [img]http://www.imageshack.us/image001.jpg.[ /img] . Note there are no spaces in the command ie.[ /img], i just did that so that it would display here.

5. If done correcly, the pic will load properly in the forum.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jan 10, 2006 at 01:42 PM
Ok here's mine...

Sorry for the messy look but...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/mypc.jpg)

1st pc (on the Table)  Shuttle XPC SN45G w/ AMD 2400xp+ mobile @ 2.2 Ghz/512MB ram / 200GB HD/ ATI AIW 8500DV/Pioneer 107D dvdrw


2nd pc ( Bottom left not completely seen)  Lian Li PC60/ Epox 8NPAJ w/ A64 Sempron 2800+ @ 2.5Ghz/ 1 Gig Ram/ 250Gb + 400GB +300GB sata HD's/ XFX 6600GT video/ Chaintech AV710 audio/ NEC 3500 + Benq 1640b Dvdrw/Lifeview TV walker lite Tuner

Audio is connected via optical toslink is  Marantz SR 4500  reciever connected to Epos ES14's front , Wharfdale Diamonds 9.1 + Sw 150, center

Accs. Logitech Wireless Desktop + QuickCam 4000pro + Roland Sc88pro  and Yamaha MU80 sound modules + 200gb USB Drive

Displays are Dell 2405FPW , Panasonic AE900 and PWD7
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 20, 2006 at 11:13 AM
Hi there, HTPC newbie here  :).

I just got my LCD TV for my bedroom so I thought of exploring the HTPC path. I already have a separate setup in my HT room, and I have spare speakers and amplifiers. This will be a 2nd setup, so I wont be pouring too much budget on it.

What sound cards are available in the local market for this (for external amps) ?

Around how much are they and where can they be bought?

The only one I learned about was the Audigy 2.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 21, 2006 at 05:02 AM
Hi there, HTPC newbie here  :).

I just got my LCD TV for my bedroom so I thought of exploring the HTPC path. I already have a separate setup in my HT room, and I have spare speakers and amplifiers. This will be a 2nd setup, so I wont be pouring too much budget on it.

What sound cards are available in the local market for this (for external amps) ?

Around how much are they and where can they be bought?

The only one I learned about was the Audigy 2.

Thanks  :)

Read Reviews on the Xmystique 7.1 I have 4 more cards in case your interested.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 21, 2006 at 01:32 PM
Kindly PM me the price and which one (Xraider or Xplosion) can be connected to power amps without the need for pre-amps.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 22, 2006 at 03:00 AM
Kindly PM me the price and which one (Xraider or Xplosion) can be connected to power amps without the need for pre-amps.

Thanks  :)

Hi Matz wala akong xplosion or xraider only xmystique eh.  These can be connected to power amps without the need for a preamp.  Just make sure you turn on the PC first before the power amps.  When shutting down, turn off power amps before PC.  Just to avoid the pop sound when the power turns on and off.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dokie on Jan 28, 2006 at 12:50 PM
@jpadua

sir jpadua, meron pala kayong dvi to component adapter for ati cards.. pwede po ba yan sa sapphire radeon 9100? kasi nabasa ko sa net na ang core daw ng 9100 ay pareho ng 8500.... thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 30, 2006 at 02:51 AM
@jpadua

sir jpadua, meron pala kayong dvi to component adapter for ati cards.. pwede po ba yan sa sapphire radeon 9100? kasi nabasa ko sa net na ang core daw ng 9100 ay pareho ng 8500.... thanks!

hmm im not sure lang, kung pareho lang yung core then it should work. The driver should support it, I'll search the net kung pwede.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:18 AM
meron ba sa pinas ng wireless keyboards with built in touchpads (ala laptops)? so far ive only seen two, both from amazon pa, an bland looking adesso brand and a sony vaio type which is kinda expensive for usd150. sana meron galing china na mura hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 30, 2006 at 05:50 PM
another newbie question: will a pc dvd rom be able to read DVDa or SACD? or will the software do it?

TIA :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Jan 30, 2006 at 07:02 PM
MAt, later versions of WinDVD for Windows (and probably other dvd playback software) together with a dvd drive can playback DVD-Audio discs. Not sure about SACD

although with the advent of hd dvd and bluray, it looks like DVD-A and SACD will be relegated to the backburner. anyway, lets just wait and see
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jan 30, 2006 at 11:24 PM
Currently The only known working way to play DVD-A is by using an Audigy and Creative DVD-A software player.  Win DVD has taken out this functionality since it has not been working properly eversince.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: v0elker on Feb 02, 2006 at 12:22 PM
ic, once ko lang nagamit yun since i only had 1 dvda. so tinanggal na pala nila sa latter release. dvda and sacd never really took off no, naging niche lang
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 02, 2006 at 02:29 PM
Hi!  Just wondering if upgrading my 32mb video card to a 128mb ATI Radeon would improve the video quality of my dvds on my computer monitor?  I am not a gamer just wanted to improve the quality of videos in my pc.   BTW, I am using a 21 inch HP flat screen monitor.   ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 02, 2006 at 03:16 PM
Hi!  Just wondering if upgrading my 32mb video card to a 128mb ATI Radeon would improve the video quality of my dvds on my computer monitor?  I am not a gamer just wanted to improve the quality of videos in my pc.   BTW, I am using a 21 inch HP flat screen monitor.   ???

That would be a good upgrade, in terms of video quality, newer cards have better built in hardware decoders.  The 32MB card does everything in software I'm pretty sure.  Upgrading will lessen CPU load, better/faster DVD decoding.  I would suggest going for an Nvidia 6200 GPU instead.  This supports wmv HD already. Not sure though if its a PCI-E only solution.  Go for the latest card you can get within your budget range. ATI or Nvidia.  For now Nvidia Geforce 6 range is better since it supports Nvidia Purevideo so far the best Hardware/Software Decoder/deinterlacer to date for the PC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 03, 2006 at 02:07 PM
Thanks for the info jay. I will scout around with the videocards you've mentioned. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 03, 2006 at 07:48 PM
Thanks for the info jay. I will scout around with the videocards you've mentioned. ;D

No Problem! you can always ask me for advise on HTPC stuff :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 05, 2006 at 06:52 PM
sir jpadua...can one have a decent HTPC or if not pang HTPC eh atleast a Decent Computer on a budget? ex is between 30k to 35k? it can run na ba yung mga video na medyo nagrerequired ng high performance videocard?pwede po pa pm yung marecommend niyo sir. :) thanks in advance sir jpadua.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 06, 2006 at 02:05 PM
sir jpadua...can one have a decent HTPC or if not pang HTPC eh atleast a Decent Computer on a budget? ex is between 30k to 35k? it can run na ba yung mga video na medyo nagrerequired ng high performance videocard?pwede po pa pm yung marecommend niyo sir. :) thanks in advance sir jpadua.

is this 30-35K without a monitor? 

Definately:
Recently built a decent computer for my Mother, we only spent 24K  So if your budget is 10K more you can get a better video card and more ram or a faster processor.
This is all with stock cooling.

Casing: G3 PC Case w/power supply
CPU: Athlon64 +2800
Board: ECS Nforce3A (nforce3 250)
Ram: Generic 512MB
Video: ATI 9200 128mb
Sound: On Board
Hardisk: 80 GB Seagate Baraccuda
Optical Drive: Lite-on DVD/CDRW combo

Now here are some suggestions for a better setup on a budget
Athlon64 +3000
1 GB Ram
Nvidia Card 6600GT AGP
Benq DVDRW (currently the best DVD writer in the market, its really quiet and suuuuuper fast)
you would also want a TV Tuner if you really want to use this machine as an HTPC.  Leadtek winfast expert (budget 2.8K) Leadtek winfast PVR2000 (about 5K)

Mix and match nalang, balance the hardware with your budget. :)

Even Better Suggestions

Go for a 939 socket mobo
Nforce4. Foxconn is really good.  has 4PCI slots and only 1 useless PCIE, 1 PCIE for video. Most Nforce4 Boards only have 2 or 3 regular PCI slots.
BTW Foxconnn is the OEM provder also for a lot of Branded PCs (HP for example).

For PCIE video card here are some suggestions

Nvidia 6200 = good for video, not really for gaming
Nvidia 6600GT = good for video decent for gaming

Both cards support Purevideo WMV HD acceleration in hardware.

Goodluck!



If your budget will fit.





Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 07, 2006 at 07:43 PM
is this 30-35K without a monitor? 

Definately:
Recently built a decent computer for my Mother, we only spent 24K  So if your budget is 10K more you can get a better video card and more ram or a faster processor.
This is all with stock cooling.

Casing: G3 PC Case w/power supply
CPU: Athlon64 +2800
Board: ECS Nforce3A (nforce3 250)
Ram: Generic 512MB
Video: ATI 9200 128mb
Sound: On Board
Hardisk: 80 GB Seagate Baraccuda
Optical Drive: Lite-on DVD/CDRW combo



sir jpadua. first, i want to say thank you po for a kind informative reply sir! :D

is that the pakage you are referring to that you made for your mother decent comp(24k) sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 07, 2006 at 08:05 PM
is this 30-35K without a monitor? 

Definately:
Recently built a decent computer for my Mother, we only spent 24K  So if your budget is 10K more you can get a better video card and more ram or a faster processor.
This is all with stock cooling.

Casing: G3 PC Case w/power supply
CPU: Athlon64 +2800
Board: ECS Nforce3A (nforce3 250)
Ram: Generic 512MB
Video: ATI 9200 128mb
Sound: On Board
Hardisk: 80 GB Seagate Baraccuda
Optical Drive: Lite-on DVD/CDRW combo

Now here are some suggestions for a better setup on a budget
Athlon64 +3000
1 GB Ram
Nvidia Card 6600GT AGP
Benq DVDRW (currently the best DVD writer in the market, its really quiet and suuuuuper fast)
you would also want a TV Tuner if you really want to use this machine as an HTPC.  Leadtek winfast expert (budget 2.8K) Leadtek winfast PVR2000 (about 5K)

Mix and match nalang, balance the hardware with your budget. :)

Even Better Suggestions

Go for a 939 socket mobo
Nforce4. Foxconn is really good.  has 4PCI slots and only 1 useless PCIE, 1 PCIE for video. Most Nforce4 Boards only have 2 or 3 regular PCI slots.
BTW Foxconnn is the OEM provder also for a lot of Branded PCs (HP for example).

For PCIE video card here are some suggestions

Nvidia 6200 = good for video, not really for gaming
Nvidia 6600GT = good for video decent for gaming

Both cards support Purevideo WMV HD acceleration in hardware.

Goodluck!



If your budget will fit.








sir , about naman po dun sa 2nd suggestion niyo po sir? kasya pa po ba sa budget yun pagnagmix and match nalang po sa hardware? and sir whats foxconn po? sorry di kasi talaga familiar sa mga manufacturer(brand) eh..if it will fit to our budget,e di mas ok po sir.. thanks in advance po uli :)

sir ano ba talaga pinagkaiba if ill get a athlon64 to pentium? kasi naguguluhan ako sa mga salesman, they insist na pentuim daw! lalo na if magrequire ng highgraphics... ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 08, 2006 at 04:49 AM

sir , about naman po dun sa 2nd suggestion niyo po sir? kasya pa po ba sa budget yun pagnagmix and match nalang po sa hardware? and sir whats foxconn po? sorry di kasi talaga familiar sa mga manufacturer(brand) eh..if it will fit to our budget,e di mas ok po sir.. thanks in advance po uli :)

sir ano ba talaga pinagkaiba if ill get a athlon64 to pentium? kasi naguguluhan ako sa mga salesman, they insist na pentuim daw! lalo na if magrequire ng highgraphics... ???

Yeah yung 24K yun yung price ng PC na ginawa ko for my mom, and thats capable na for HTPC.

Well in the case of Athlon64 VS Pentium, mainit talaga ang Intel, and the Athlon64 runs cool and is a very capable CPU.  Ang intel is usually used for workstations, or for professional applications like 3D rendering, Video Editing, etc.  The Athlon64 can do that too pero masmabilis ng konti ang intel.  In our case HTPC and home use lang so kayang kaya ng Athlon64 plus its cheaper, runs cool, runs quiet.  Athlons are more enthusiast level than pro. So I would recommend Athlon over intel...

Anyway I gathered some market prices for you: Rough estimates.

Case/PSU/Keyboard/Mouse = P1,500 (Most cases come with PSU/Keyboard/Mouse just look for a nice looking case) - PC Express
Processor: Athlon64 +3200 socket 939 = P9,800 - PC Corner
Motheboard: ECS Nforce4 = P5,100 (has 5.1 Audio outputs, and coaxial digital output) - PC Corner
Ram: Kingston 512MB = P2,800 - PC Corner
Video Card: Inno3d FX6200 = P4,650 (supports Nvidia Purevideo and WMV-HD acceleration) PC Corner
Harddisk: Seagate 7200rpm 120GB = P4,350 - PC Corner
DVD Writer: Benq 1640 DVDRW = P3,100 - Computer Farm Festival Mall
TV Tuner: Leadtek winfast Expert =P 2,850 - PC Corner

Total: 34,150

This is pretty solid na for an HTPC.  You can get an Inno3D 6600GT PCIe instead if you also want to use it for decent gaming, maybe add around 2-3K? or you could also use a lower CPU to cut your cost by about 1-3K either an Athlon64 3000 or Athlon 64 2800.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 08, 2006 at 01:08 PM
thanks again sir jpadua... 8)

im thinking of using it din kasi sa photoshop lang and some video editing. siguro kaya niya na yun..:) ganun nga din belief ko about athlon over pentuim e. i think hindi naman gaanong halata yung difference nila sa speed. sir, ive tried magtanong yesterday sa pc corner nga ata yun. someone said na yung inoofer nilang mboard is 7.1 capable na. importante po ba yun? not sure lang kung may coaxial out siya. ill try to see yung model but i know its ECS. di lang nila binigay yung buong model.  i noted na sir yung mga list na binigay niyo and try pagaralan sir. changed of plan ata, hindi naman siguro change of plan ito, kasi we will build two computer nalang. one mga 20k-25k budget ( fit po yung pakage niyo kagaya sa mom niyo po siguro) ang yung isa is 30k to 35k
 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 08, 2006 at 02:42 PM
Thanks for the very informative info & price computations above sir JP!

I met Jamie (BNG) yesterday and he says he knows you. I bought my speakers from him a year ago, and yesterday I got his Rotel power amp that he used to connect to his HTPC.

QUESTION: When you say 7.1 capable, is that for pc speakers? or does it mean it comes with 7 output jacks that can be connected to amplifiers?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 08, 2006 at 03:23 PM
Thanks for the very informative info & price computations above sir JP!

I met Jamie (BNG) yesterday and he says he knows you. I bought my speakers from him a year ago, and yesterday I got his Rotel power amp that he used to connect to his HTPC.

QUESTION: When you say 7.1 capable, is that for pc speakers? or does it mean it comes with 7 output jacks that can be connected to amplifiers?

7.1 meaning you can connect it to a 7.1 direct input amp, or 7.1 PC speakers.  You have to use a software decoder though, like winDVD or PowerDVD That supports Dolby Digital EX and DTS ES decoding in software. If the Board has spdif out (optical or coaxial) that means if you amp/receiver has ddex or dtses then, the amp will do the decoding, windvd will just send the digital data to the reciever.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 09, 2006 at 11:37 PM
7.1 meaning you can connect it to a 7.1 direct input amp, or 7.1 PC speakers.  You have to use a software decoder though, like winDVD or PowerDVD That supports Dolby Digital EX and DTS ES decoding in software. If the Board has spdif out (optical or coaxial) that means if you amp/receiver has ddex or dtses then, the amp will do the decoding, windvd will just send the digital data to the reciever.

 8) sounds good...  8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 10, 2006 at 04:51 PM
Finally an Nvidia Nforce 6150 board is out in the philippine market. Asiantech has just posted on the latest PC buyers guide. Gigabyte 6150 mobo!

Just to give you an idea the potential of this mobo:

MicroATX
Support for the latest Athlon64/FX Procs
Nforce4 Chipset Family
The onboard GPU is a Geforce6 class, so it supports HD video acceleration
Breakout Box with Component output and S-video
VGA out on board.
Spdif Header (you can just make a digital coax and connect to the spdif pins on the board)
High Definition Audio with 7.1 Analog output

Sadly no DVI output but atleast its got component out which most HDTVs support.

All in one multimedia board in microATX form factor.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 11, 2006 at 12:07 AM
magkano naman po kaya magiging damage niyang ganyan sir? ??? and.. worth it po ba? ::) yung Nforce4 is para po ba sa motherboard chipset? ang yung Gforce6 po naman ba is yung brand/manufacturer of videocard?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Feb 11, 2006 at 08:18 AM
Finally an Nvidia Nforce 6150 board is out in the philippine market. Asiantech has just posted on the latest PC buyers guide. Gigabyte 6150 mobo!

Just to give you an idea the potential of this mobo:

MicroATX
Support for the latest Athlon64/FX Procs
Nforce4 Chipset Family
The onboard GPU is a Geforce6 class, so it supports HD video acceleration
Breakout Box with Component output and S-video
VGA out on board.
Spdif Header (you can just make a digital coax and connect to the spdif pins on the board)
High Definition Audio with 7.1 Analog output

Sadly no DVI output but atleast its got component out which most HDTVs support.

All in one multimedia board in microATX form factor.

The Asus A8N-VM CSM has a DVI output in addition to the VGA out. IMO, the Asus is a better buy bec. of that alone. The only downside is that the TV out bracket/connection is available separately only and not bundled. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Feb 11, 2006 at 01:32 PM

Better check the reviews from  Newegg feedback or even the AVS forum for the gigabyte mobo.. This was my first choice before, but its seem it a lot of early users have issues.

The Asus is a better choice I think w/ DVI out ...

But for me I am waiting for the MSI model w/c has the most comprehensive set out video and audio outputs built in....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 11, 2006 at 03:19 PM
sir jambam, sir number1, sir jpadua.

paki explain naman po about sa Asus... and kung ano po yung mga issues sa gigabyte mobo nvidia. thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Feb 11, 2006 at 04:23 PM
Here is one review of the Asus A8N-VM CSM

http://techreport.com/etc/2005q4/system-guide/index.x?pg=2

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Feb 12, 2006 at 09:46 AM
User reviews ng gigabyte GA-k8n51pvmt-9

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?item=N82E16813128001
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 13, 2006 at 12:44 PM
Maybe the earlier versions of the Gigabyte board had problems, here's a review from bjorn3d 8/10 score.

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=874

I like the Asus 6150 board too.  Is it available here as well?  The only thing I have against it is that they skimped on the Audio, only 5.1 and not the new 7.1 HD audio. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Feb 13, 2006 at 08:09 PM
Of the 6150 and 430 chipset combos The only ones locally  available right now is the Asus and the leadtek.  The leadtek has no dvi and only s-video out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 14, 2006 at 01:30 AM
ive asked pc corner if they have a stock of the 6600GT. by order daw yun?

hehe. mukhang makatiis naman ako bago mag assemble, matatapos na kasi feb :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 14, 2006 at 03:07 AM
I believe the Gigabyte board is also available, Asiantech recently released a press release, they also posted it on the latest PC Buyers Guide.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 14, 2006 at 03:09 AM
ive asked pc corner if they have a stock of the 6600GT. by order daw yun?

hehe. mukhang makatiis naman ako bago mag assemble, matatapos na kasi feb :D

madaming nag bebenta ng 6600GT sa tipidpc.com... brand new yun... usually cheaper.  hanapin mo si Servo from tipidpc.com, he sells palit 6600GT cards at a good price. malamang yung sa PC corner inno3d yun.. around 10K yun... ang palit is about 2000 bucks cheaper.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 14, 2006 at 12:19 PM
Pare,

You may want to also post approximate cost per component of what you listed and also when/where you got them.

This will give prospective new hobbyist to start thinking about the possibilities of HTPC in their HT set-ups :-)

I've been eyeing this for awhile, for now, I have to strike it out with an Xbox modified console and standard dvd player on my HT set-up.

regards,
-jackryan 8)

hi - how much would a "beginner's" HTPC cost if built from scratch?

ty
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Feb 14, 2006 at 08:33 PM
Maybe the earlier versions of the Gigabyte board had problems, here's a review from bjorn3d 8/10 score.

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=874

I like the Asus 6150 board too.  Is it available here as well?  The only thing I have against it is that they skimped on the Audio, only 5.1 and not the new 7.1 HD audio.  

Just a thought...

Imo, 7.1 is really not needed since most materials (whether DVDs or HDTV) are mostly formatted in 5.1 .  Die-hard audophiles would have opted for a separate high-end soundcard anyways since on-board wont really cut out for them. By the time, 7.1 materials become more prevalent or the industry standard, then it would be the start of the hardware upgrade (incl. HTPCs) for most people.   
 :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Feb 14, 2006 at 08:38 PM
hi - how much would a "beginner's" HTPC cost if built from scratch?

ty

Hard to say unless you put down what specific parts you want/need or what you plan to use it for.

It differs from a regular PC because you may need the ff parts to really make it a genuine HTPC per se:

1.) Tv Tuner
2.) Wireless Keyboard and mice
3.) etc..

Resident HTPC Guru, jpadua, pls add some more.... ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 15, 2006 at 05:43 AM
Hard to say unless you put down what specific parts you want/need or what you plan to use it for.

It differs from a regular PC because you may need the ff parts to really make it a genuine HTPC per se:

1.) Tv Tuner
2.) Wireless Keyboard and mice
3.) etc..

Resident HTPC Guru, jpadua, pls add some more.... ;D


Dali lang yan ;)

A PC is really a machine tailored to what its going to be used for. Office computers, Computers in recording studios, Computers for 3D animation, etc. In our case, we use a PC for Home Entertainment. HTPC Home Theater PC.  Home Theater meaning you're supposed to be able to do the following:

1> Watch DVDs in 5.1 surround sound
2> Watch TV / Record TV / Schedule
3> Listen to Digital Music / Organize your music collection
4> Backup DVDs
5> Backup CDs
6> Watch video files on your TV
7> PC gaming on your TV
8> Surf the internet on your TV
and so on....

All your media in one box centered around your home theater system.

based on what you want it to do, that what would compose your parts list.  Of course you would want to control it from your couch right? so a Wireless Keyboard and mouse or a PC remote control.

Based on that your HTPC should have:

1. DVD-Rom / DVD-RW
2. 5.1 Soundcard preferably with Spdif output
3. TV-tuner
4. Wireless Keyboard / mouse

With those four you can make any PC an HTPC.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 15, 2006 at 05:52 AM
Just a thought...

Imo, 7.1 is really not needed since most materials (whether DVDs or HDTV) are mostly formatted in 5.1 .  Die-hard audophiles would have opted for a separate high-end soundcard anyways since on-board wont really cut out for them. By the time, 7.1 materials become more prevalent or the industry standard, then it would be the start of the hardware upgrade (incl. HTPCs) for most people.   
 :)


The 7.1 output from the 6150 is supposedly HD Audio, so its not your so so onboard solution. Most material is indeed in 5.1 but with a 7.1 Card, the surround channels are matrixed to produce the rear channels, It makes the sound actually better.  I have a 6.1 setup at home, although most DVDs are encoded in 5.1, they are still matrixed to 6.1 and it sounds awesome compared to just 5.1.  Of course dont forget Dolby Digital EX and DTS ES titles have a discrete rear channel.  on a 6.1 (1 rear speaker) and 7.1 (L-R Rear speaker) the discrete audio channel will be played and not the matrixed surround channels.

Wala lang just felt bad that asus 6150 mobo stuck to 5.1 (not HD Audio also) unlike, Gigabyte, Foxconn, MSI which all integrated HD Audio and 7.1 on their 6150 mobos but left out DVI naman!?  haaay sayang sana a mobo company would have a 6150 board with DVI and 7.1 it would have been perfect!!!   

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 15, 2006 at 09:37 AM
Dali lang yan ;)

A PC is really a machine tailored to what its going to be used for. Office computers, Computers in recording studios, Computers for 3D animation, etc. In our case, we use a PC for Home Entertainment. HTPC Home Theater PC. Home Theater meaning you're supposed to be able to do the following:

1> Watch DVDs in 5.1 surround sound
2> Watch TV / Record TV / Schedule
3> Listen to Digital Music / Organize your music collection
4> Backup DVDs
5> Backup CDs
6> Watch video files on your TV
7> PC gaming on your TV
8> Surf the internet on your TV
and so on....

All your media in one box centered around your home theater system.

based on what you want it to do, that what would compose your parts list. Of course you would want to control it from your couch right? so a Wireless Keyboard and mouse or a PC remote control.

Based on that your HTPC should have:

1. DVD-Rom / DVD-RW
2. 5.1 Soundcard preferably with Spdif output
3. TV-tuner
4. Wireless Keyboard / mouse

With those four you can make any PC an HTPC.



1> Watch DVDs in 5.1 surround sound - yes through digital out going to my receiver
2> Watch TV / Record TV / Schedule - yes
3> Listen to Digital Music / Organize your music collection - yes
4> Backup DVDs - no
5> Backup CDs - no
6> Watch video files on your TV - yes
7> PC gaming on your TV - no
8> Surf the internet on your TV - yes
and so on....

hope someone will be patien enough to answer this again, i guess aesthetics will follow na lang so i dont need a high tech casing or wireless controllers (muna) ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 15, 2006 at 03:25 PM
hi sir iceman... sir jpadua just listed it out the parts you "may" want a page back. same query as mine. :)


sir jpadua.. ill try to visit that site. ;) thanks. im still reading all your inputs and some members here in this thread po... to know and learn more....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 15, 2006 at 04:56 PM
thanks ronjet ito ba yun? :)

Anyway I gathered some market prices for you: Rough estimates.

Case/PSU/Keyboard/Mouse = P1,500 (Most cases come with PSU/Keyboard/Mouse just look for a nice looking case) - PC Express
Processor: Athlon64 +3200 socket 939 = P9,800 - PC Corner
Motheboard: ECS Nforce4 = P5,100 (has 5.1 Audio outputs, and coaxial digital output) - PC Corner
Ram: Kingston 512MB = P2,800 - PC Corner
Video Card: Inno3d FX6200 = P4,650 (supports Nvidia Purevideo and WMV-HD acceleration) PC Corner
Harddisk: Seagate 7200rpm 120GB = P4,350 - PC Corner
DVD Writer: Benq 1640 DVDRW = P3,100 - Computer Farm Festival Mall
TV Tuner: Leadtek winfast Expert =P 2,850 - PC Corner

Total: 34,150

This is pretty solid na for an HTPC. You can get an Inno3D 6600GT PCIe instead if you also want to use it for decent gaming, maybe add around 2-3K? or you could also use a lower CPU to cut your cost by about 1-3K either an Athlon64 3000 or Athlon 64 2800.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 16, 2006 at 06:14 AM
I was thinking if those HTPC casings or those horizontal casings can accomodate all of the peripherals like cards and all the accessories that can be placed in a tower casing?  What are the limitations?  What motherboard can fit?   Can I just transfer all of my stuff inside my tower casing to the horizontal one?  I'm interested coz it will look good with all of my audio video stuff in an AV rack.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Feb 16, 2006 at 01:21 PM
sir nirv... i was thinking of it too. :) looks good nga. dont know lang kung how much. i think sir jpadua can answer this. meron sa link niya sa sig na binebenta

sir iceman90a... yup. yan nga yun.. meron pa si sir jpadua na ni list down aside from that. wala lang dyan is yung monitor
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 16, 2006 at 10:38 PM
sir nirv... i was thinking of it too. :) looks good nga. dont know lang kung how much. i think sir jpadua can answer this. meron sa link niya sa sig na binebenta

sir iceman90a... yup. yan nga yun.. meron pa si sir jpadua na ni list down aside from that. wala lang dyan is yung monitor

Naku boys, medyo mahal yun case,  16.5k yun... ewan ko bat napaka mahal...  I just sold my personal HTPC case to Bran for 9k.. mura na yun sa lagay na yun... mahirap ibenta kaya I dont get large orders mga 2-3 pcs lang and its for our HTPCs (yung binebenta namin) If I can get a pool of about 5 buyers pwede tayo mag order. Actually sa Silverstone dapat 20PC ang MOQ, but they are nice to me :D I guess promotor ako dito sa pinas hehehe.

I have 2 of these on hand right now
http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pName/silverstone-lascala-sstlc16m-wvfd-and-remote-black/cName/htpc-cases

$269 USD lang.... kaso the shipping and customs and vat cost me an arm and a leg!!!!

I'm trying to get my hands on these
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/06/14/home_theater_pcs/page2.html

Its only sold in the UK, apparently UK sellers are not allowed to sell these outside the UK.  Good thing the manufacturer recommended I talk to one of their Australian resellers, they can ship to the philippines.  I dont know how much it would cost pa.

This is a super slim case... its so SEXY! 

It only has 1 expansion slot, so thats reserved for a TV card.  You have to use a mATX board too, good thing the 6150 boards are here na so HD video and HD audio are covered na.  It can fit 1 standard sized hard disk.

Also the DVD rom drive has to be a laptop drive... I'm also ordering the Panasonic Slimline DVD/CDRW combo laptop drive which is a slot load, para sexy ulit heheh kaso its not available here so I have to order it abroad again.

Another problem is the heatsink.  You have to use a 1U (1inch) server type heatsink.. again not available here bummer.

Anyway hopefully that Australian reseller can get me the parts I need (slot load laptop drive, 1U heatsink w fan) And finally make a demo unit of this thing.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 16, 2006 at 11:00 PM
I was thinking if those HTPC casings or those horizontal casings can accomodate all of the peripherals like cards and all the accessories that can be placed in a tower casing?  What are the limitations?  What motherboard can fit?   Can I just transfer all of my stuff inside my tower casing to the horizontal one?  I'm interested coz it will look good with all of my audio video stuff in an AV rack.

You know I think if you look hard enough, you can find a cheap desktop case here... its not going to look like hi end AV equipment though pero at least desktop orientation sya.  Dami mga Point of sales na PC panay desktop mATX.

Eto binebenta ng Villman
http://www.villman.com/products/specs/enlight/en-7472.asp?code=en-7472&ref=enlight/en-7472.asp
I'm sure you've seen this in a lot of restaurants. :)

With a little modding, you can make it into a fine HTPC case! pagawa ka ng bagong face plate if you know anyone who does custom aluminum jobs.
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 19, 2006 at 02:38 PM
Yup saw those at PC Buyers Guide and this one also caught my attention:

(http://www.pcabusers.com/reviews/antec/overture/pic2.jpg)

Antec Overture in Black Piano Finish

Features:

~ TruePower 380 Watt ATX12V Power Supply features a single-fan design for ultra quiet operation.
~ Front mounted USB & IEEE 1394 (FireWire®) ports
~ Washable Air Filter
~ Front Audio ports
~ 7 Drive Bays:
- 2 x 5.25" external drive bays
- 2 x 3.5" external drive bays
- 3 x 3.5" internal drive bays in individual trays with rubber grommets to absorb hard drive vibrations
Cooling: 1x92mm Fan
- 1 rear (standard) 25mm thick
~ Motherboards up to Standard ATX

Review: http://www.pcabusers.com/reviews/antec/overture/page1.html

This retails at P6950.00 based on PC Buyer's Guide price list.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 20, 2006 at 01:59 AM
Yup saw those at PC Buyers Guide and this one also caught my attention:

(http://www.pcabusers.com/reviews/antec/overture/pic2.jpg)

Antec Overture in Black Piano Finish

Features:

~ TruePower 380 Watt ATX12V Power Supply features a single-fan design for ultra quiet operation.
~ Front mounted USB & IEEE 1394 (FireWire®) ports
~ Washable Air Filter
~ Front Audio ports
~ 7 Drive Bays:
- 2 x 5.25" external drive bays
- 2 x 3.5" external drive bays
- 3 x 3.5" internal drive bays in individual trays with rubber grommets to absorb hard drive vibrations
Cooling: 1x92mm Fan
- 1 rear (standard) 25mm thick
~ Motherboards up to Standard ATX

Review: http://www.pcabusers.com/reviews/antec/overture/page1.html

This retails at P6950.00 based on PC Buyer's Guide price list.


Read reviews muna about that case, it has a lot of heat issues, a lot of user had to do a lot of modifications to it.  Antec will be coming out with a new redesigned HTPC case soon called the Antec Fusion (displayed at the Antec Booth at CES)...

(http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/images/content/prodpics/200601/Fusion.jpg)
(http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/images/content/prodpics/200601/antecfusion.jpg)

Lovely case! it fits only mATX board, but its uses 2 120mm fans for exhaust.  The internal layout is similar to the Antec P180 so aside from the great cooling efficiency its also dead silent in operation with the 2 120fans in low RPM.  This new case also has a VFD display and comes with an Imon Remote.  The case would probably be expensive though around 10K - 15K not unless the Antec Dealers here can bring down the price.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 20, 2006 at 09:13 AM
Oh i see. I was just enthusiastic about it coz it can handle all of the peripherals that a tower has.  Any news on the case that Villman distributes?  It's a lot cheaper din. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Mar 01, 2006 at 12:04 PM
Hi,

Please recommend naman kayo ng video card for HTPC use, mga 2.5K lang po ang price.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Mar 01, 2006 at 10:25 PM
Hi,

Please recommend naman kayo ng video card for HTPC use, mga 2.5K lang po ang price.

Thanks.

Try getting a video card based on the Nvidia 6200 series chip for its modern architecture and good price/performance ratio.

PCI-Express

Sparkle 6200 64mb trbcache max256 128bit - Php 2,600

Inno3D 6200 64mb turbocache max256  - Php 2,600

AGP

PowerColor ATI 9250 128ddr dvi 128bit - Php 2,100

Inno3D FX6200A 128ddr tv-dvi 8x 64bit - Php 3,000



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 02, 2006 at 11:07 AM
Hi fellow HTPC enthusiasts :)

I feel so foolish na ngayon ko lang nadiscover na may HTPC thread pala... all along I thought I was alone in my HTPC experiments. Anyway, great to know so many are into this... I've been reading all your great posts :)

My current PC setup:

- Intel P4 3.2GHz
- 2GB DDR RAM
- 256MB ATI Radeon X800 XL
- 80 GB HD and 40 GB HD
- AOC 17" LCD (1280px by 1024px) monitor
- 7.1 ch on-board sound card on an MSI motherboard
- 802.11g Wi-Fi
- LG GSA-4163B DVD Writer
- Zyxel X-550 Mimo-G Wi-Fi Broadband Router
- 1.5 mbps DSL connection

I'm almost always using my laptop (Thinkpad T43, 1.86GHz Intel Pentium-M Centrino, 1.5GB DDR2 RAM, ATI X300) so I hardly use my desktop and now I'm planning to get the following for a true HTPC conversion:

- a good sound card (probably Audigy 2?)
- a nice HTPC casing with LED panel and IR remote (saan kaya merong sleek designs?)
- RF wireless keyboard with touchpad (hard to find this one...)
- TV Tuner and PVR (any suggestions on this one?)

Did I miss anything else? :)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 03, 2006 at 04:18 PM
A store told me that there is no more audigy 2 but there is Audigy 4 @ 17k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Mar 03, 2006 at 05:17 PM
Hi fellow HTPC enthusiasts :)

- a good sound card (probably Audigy 2?)
- a nice HTPC casing with LED panel and IR remote (saan kaya merong sleek designs?)
- RF wireless keyboard with touchpad (hard to find this one...)
- TV Tuner and PVR (any suggestions on this one?)

Did I miss anything else? :)

Cheers!


Hi Sir KATO! congrats po! GREAT GREAT HTPC YOU ALREADY HAVE THERE!!!  8) ;) galing! to anwer po some of your queries

 - a nice HTPC casing with LED panel and IR remote (saan kaya merong sleek designs?) - pm or just leave a message here, i know sir jpadua can help you on this. he sells this i think.


- RF wireless keyboard with touchpad (hard to find this one...) - sir rene canlas, got a wireless keyboard that uses RF signal, dont know lang if it has touchpad. he bought it 2,000 at columbia computer store in megamall.. check his review on this at this thread on page 35. ;)


 - TV Tuner and PVR (any suggestions on this one?) - sir jpadua also suggest some few pages back. you may also check it out. ;)

- soundcard... it must have optical or coaxial.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: NongP on Mar 03, 2006 at 05:42 PM

 - TV Tuner and PVR (any suggestions on this one?) - sir jpadua also suggest some few pages back. you may also check it out. ;)


go to "openpinoy.com" they have this USB mini TV tuner selling for P1,890  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 05, 2006 at 05:03 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks for the suggestions! Balitaan ko kayo once I finish this project :)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Mar 07, 2006 at 08:07 PM
Hi JP. Is it possible to connect a laptop to a receiver for decoding of dvd sounds? If so what do I need? Thanks for any input.


Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Mar 07, 2006 at 08:38 PM
hi bote, if your laptop supports or has spdif output, you can connect it to your receiver via TOSLINK.  see the cable example below:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TOSLink-SPDIF-Optical-Cable-Lead-inc-3-5mm-adapt-2m_W0QQitemZ5872358256QQcategoryZ15067QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

shalom :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 07, 2006 at 09:53 PM
Laptops with SPDIF output are rare, unless you're using something like an Audigy 2 (or similar) PCMCIA sound card.

A simpler alternative is to use a mini stereo jack to rca adaptor plug (what I use) and just use standard stereo cables to hook up with the A/V receiver. Depending on the A/V receiver (most of the new ones), it should be able to transparently decode the audio fed through the stereo cables. The audio quality will depend on your sound card.

or... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mce/expert/connect_av.mspx

Cheers! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Mar 08, 2006 at 09:15 AM
hey guys, what front end sw are you using for your htpc? any one here uses winfast tv2000xp with a particular front end with success? thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mixx on Mar 08, 2006 at 09:20 AM
yes it is possible po if your laptop has an SPDIF port, but you may need an updated version of a DVD program that support DTS, im using an DELL INSPIRON XPS and it is connected to my marantz sr6300 via spdif unfortunately i cant get DTS signals to come out of my amp coz the software doesnt support it  :(



Hi JP. Is it possible to connect a laptop to a receiver for decoding of dvd sounds? If so what do I need? Thanks for any input.


Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup - Question re: Nvidia FX 6200
Post by: bejiboys on Mar 08, 2006 at 05:55 PM
Question po sa mga HT/PC experts:

Ano pong locally available brand ng Nvidia FX6200 video card ang me ka-bundle na dongle para may component out?  Based on my research sa web, the Nvidia reference design uses a mini DIN type connector very similar to SVideo but with more pins (6 ata vs. 4 for SVideo).   Inno3D, Leadtek, MSI? 

Also, for video experts:  Straightforward ba po ang "down-conversion" from Y-U-V (component) to Y/C (S-Video) to Composite?  Trying to understand what is contained in these dongles. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 08, 2006 at 07:40 PM
hey guys, what front end sw are you using for your htpc? any one here uses winfast tv2000xp with a particular front end with success? thanks in advance.

Ive tried to look for compatible frontends for the winfastXP 2000 but its really hard to find one that works.  Media Portal works but only for viewing, Showshifter is the only one I know that works with the winfastXP2000 using the wdm drivers. The best would still be the bundled software.  but the winfast PVR2000 is compatible with almost all! its twice the price but its worth it.  compatible with MCE, Media Portal, GBPVR, and a lot of other 3rd party apps.  Most PVRs are coded to work with hardware mpeg2 encoders.  The winfastXP2000 is a software encoder.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 08, 2006 at 07:41 PM
Hi JP. Is it possible to connect a laptop to a receiver for decoding of dvd sounds? If so what do I need? Thanks for any input.


Eddie

You can get an external USB soundcard that supports spdif output.  Creative meron and also the m-audio sonica theater. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 08, 2006 at 07:44 PM
By the way I still have 3PCs left of the Xmystique 7.1 Dolby Digital Live sound card.  PM nyo nalang ako if you want.  Thanks! 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 08, 2006 at 07:47 PM
I have an idea, if we can pool at least 5 people (not sure but I can try 5) for HTPC cases from silverstone I can probably make an order.  Actually ang MOQ nila is 20 pcs but they are nice to me :) so sometimes I can get away with 10 orders cases/accessories mixed.
Title: help on tvxb or bladerunner
Post by: timMCE on Mar 08, 2006 at 08:27 PM
been fooling around with the EPG for windows MCE 2005, have been able to create an EPG for Philippines but the time is screwed up, does anyone have any thoughts... oh yeah hi to everyone

running a celeron box with windows XP MCE 2005, hauppauge  tuner card and a Microsoft remote v2
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Mar 09, 2006 at 12:20 AM
By the way I still have 3PCs left of the Xmystique 7.1 Dolby Digital Live sound card.  PM nyo nalang ako if you want.  Thanks! 

Hi JP. Is this card suitable for laptops? Thanks
Title: Re: help on tvxb or bladerunner
Post by: jpadua on Mar 09, 2006 at 09:40 AM
been fooling around with the EPG for windows MCE 2005, have been able to create an EPG for Philippines but the time is screwed up, does anyone have any thoughts... oh yeah hi to everyone

running a celeron box with windows XP MCE 2005, hauppauge  tuner card and a Microsoft remote v2

Hi Welcome to Pinoydvd!

Cool, where did you buy your hauppage tuner and MS remote?  What software did you use to create an EPG?  I know you can offset the schedule.  I use Media portal with TVXB and have the same screwed up schedule.  but I remember I got it right before by offsetting the schedule using Media Portal. Does MCE have the option to offset in hours? I just cant experiment now cause I just reformatted my Mediaportal Machine.

So you use TVCB to gather XML data then bladerunner to incorporate it into mce? correct?


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: timMCE on Mar 09, 2006 at 09:16 PM
hi jay, this is tim the friend of hans(focal), havent had much time to fool around with MCE but I sold a few setups awhile back for a crazy amount ;).  This is actually the first time I installed MCE for myself that's why I'm actually taking time to explore other aspects of the OS.  I imported the hauppauge tuners from hauppauge in NY, their dual tuners work great! I also imported cases form Silverstone before, I can help you get dealers prices if you dont have them yet,  I got my company listed under the Philippine dealer for a huge order I did a while back.  I also brought in a few MS remotes before from the states.  I just used the parts I had left over and decided to put together a low cost MCE box for myself. I still have one OEM hauppauge tuner(single tuner) but its MCE 2005 version so it comes with a FM tuner.  Regarding my problem with the EPG,  yes, I am using TVXB and Bladerunner pro
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Does MCE have the option to offset in hours?
I dont know yet I will fool around with it some more.  Any other solutions I am really stuck?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 10, 2006 at 04:48 AM
hi jay, this is tim the friend of hans(focal), havent had much time to fool around with MCE but I sold a few setups awhile back for a crazy amount ;).  This is actually the first time I installed MCE for myself that's why I'm actually taking time to explore other aspects of the OS.  I imported the hauppauge tuners from hauppauge in NY, their dual tuners work great! I also imported cases form Silverstone before, I can help you get dealers prices if you dont have them yet,  I got my company listed under the Philippine dealer for a huge order I did a while back.  I also brought in a few MS remotes before from the states.  I just used the parts I had left over and decided to put together a low cost MCE box for myself. I still have one OEM hauppauge tuner(single tuner) but its MCE 2005 version so it comes with a FM tuner.  Regarding my problem with the EPG,  yes, I am using TVXB and Bladerunner pro  I dont know yet I will fool around with it some more.  Any other solutions I am really stuck?

Hi Tim! yeah sa yo ko binili yung Matantz SR4300 :) by the way nasira yung remote ko ng marantz saan ba nakakabili ng replacement?

Try using TVXB straight without bladerunner kaya? they have a guide to use MCE with TVXB lang... you can manually set the time offset sa TVXB ini file pero mabusisi....I'll have to experiment pa with it. :) regarding silverstone ok yan.. the price they give me is also dealer price but since small quantity lang inoorder ko mas mahal sa shipping, I used to get my cases from Aristec (formerly Kanam)... So far ive been using media portal, it has a time offset kasi, havent really tried TVXB with Media Center yet kasi wala akong "original copy" :) so I dont toy around with it much but I have an order for a licenced MCE OS which im still waiting for.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Mar 10, 2006 at 08:53 AM
Most of the newer displays sport Hdmi inputs , and as Pc's only provide DVI outputs .. Some of you might want to join a group buy for

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/dvi.jpg)

HDMI DVI Cable 28AWG w/Ferrite Cores Gold-Plated

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=48880.0



Jay Thanks ....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: timMCE on Mar 10, 2006 at 10:45 PM
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by the way nasira yung remote ko ng marantz saan ba nakakabili ng replacement?
 
I'll have to ask hans or baka I can still get in touch with the importer of marantz.  I got my first case from kanam, shipped straight from korea, mahal!
Quote
I have an order for a licenced MCE OS which im still waiting for.
meron pa ako sealed OEM 2005 version, but I dont have a spare remote right now. If you want the OS bigay ko sayo mura. ;)   I can try to convince Silverstone to go below 20 pc min. order if you need a small volume order. 
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they have a guide to use MCE with TVXB lang
can you point me to that guide, all I got was "TVxb with Bladeruuner pro MCE guide" I thought bladerunner was the one used to fool MCE into thinking it was downloading from from the internet? anyway I guess magpupuyat pa ako :'(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 11, 2006 at 03:03 AM
I'll have to ask hans or baka I can still get in touch with the importer of marantz.  I got my first case from kanam, shipped straight from korea, mahal!  meron pa ako sealed OEM 2005 version, but I dont have a spare remote right now. If you want the OS bigay ko sayo mura. ;)   I can try to convince Silverstone to go below 20 pc min. order if you need a small volume order.  can you point me to that guide, all I got was "TVxb with Bladeruuner pro MCE guide" I thought bladerunner was the one used to fool MCE into thinking it was downloading from from the internet? anyway I guess magpupuyat pa ako :'(

Thanks tim, I miss my remote :) about MCE2005 I have it on order na.
I just checked the TVxb website again, mukhang wala na yung guide, naging bladerunner na nga...before kasi when I first got TVxb wala pang bladerunner.  Did you try using UTC time?

A workaround is to convert all program times to UTC time. You can do this by adding the following line to the top "general" section of the tvxb.ini file:

    special=utctime

Ako kasi, first install ko mali din yung scheds example, on my EPG sa media portal it shows today the show thats supposed to be 2 days from now... parang ganun yung problem ko before, so I think I offset -48hrs sa media portal tapos nag sync yung show schedules.  But honestly I dont remember what I did, kalikot lang ng kalitkot sa offset until nag match yung show schedules sa click the city (where tvxb gets all my scheds).  I also did a trick that worked, created a batch file to delete all the stored html before downloading new html schedules.

!--main parameters--
special=utctime
xmltvoutput=C:\TVxb\xml\tvguide.xml
mcechanneloutput=C:\TVxb\xml\ChannelInfo.XML
htmlencoding=iso-8859-1
xmlencoding=iso-8859-1
lang=en
auto=yes
days=7,+1
precommand=pre-processing.bat

yung pre-processing.bat is a batch file I made to delete the stuff in the html folder para bago lahat when I run tvxb.

pag naka install na ako ng MCE I can experiment again with TVXB and Bladerunner.
Title: coolest running processor?
Post by: jpadua on Mar 11, 2006 at 03:11 AM
what's the coolest running Athlon processor?

A64 with venice cores
A64 X2
Dual Core opteron?

Goin to build a new HTPC but I'm forced to use a 1U rackmount size heatsink fan specially made for the case, I'm not expecting really good noise/cooling efficiency with this cooler so I need a processor tha will generate the least heat on load, any ideas?

I heard dual core opterons run at 24c idle with stock cooling... not sure though

Thanks

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Mar 12, 2006 at 08:30 AM
Jay , an opteron , we have some sun servers sa office all in 1U using amd opterons, versus dell w/ intel p4's and you know w/c ones go down as soon as the room temp goes up.

If you are lucky w/ the X2 ok din my brother has a 3800 x2  running at 1.3v but it goes 2.5 GHz versus 1.8Ghz  stock.. Sa opteron normal na lower voltage ang default niya kaya mas malamig.
Title: Re: coolest running processor?
Post by: number1 on Mar 12, 2006 at 02:20 PM
what's the coolest running Athlon processor?

A64 with venice cores
A64 X2
Dual Core opteron?

Goin to build a new HTPC but I'm forced to use a 1U rackmount size heatsink fan specially made for the case, I'm not expecting really good noise/cooling efficiency with this cooler so I need a processor tha will generate the least heat on load, any ideas?

I heard dual core opterons run at 24c idle with stock cooling... not sure though

Thanks

Jay

Athlon 64 and Sempron 64 both idle at 33-34C using stock HSF .

For comparison, a P4 LGA775, idles at around 48C stock HSF

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Mar 12, 2006 at 03:47 PM
Building a Windows MCE 2005 PC

Part 1
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/buyingguides/WindowsMCE2005part1.php

Part 2
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/buyingguides/WindowsMCE2005part2.php

Part 3
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/buyingguides/WindowsMCE2005part3.php

Part 4
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/buyingguides/WindowsMCE2005part4.php
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: timMCE on Mar 13, 2006 at 01:01 AM
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pre-processing.bat is a batch file I made
nice idea. Can you list the contents of the batch file so I can customize my own(in short pa-copya)  ??? I'm inserting the UTC command line, let you know what happens. Thanks Jay.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 13, 2006 at 06:31 AM
nice idea. Can you list the contents of the batch file so I can customize my own(in short pa-copya)  ??? I'm inserting the UTC command line, let you know what happens. Thanks Jay.

Oh just create a batchfile and name it pre-processing.bat  set it to delete all the contents of the html folder in the TVXB directory so it will always get a fresh copy of the schedules.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 13, 2006 at 06:34 AM
Oh Tim, by the way... you said you still had a sealed copy of Windows MCE? pa PM nalang ng price thanks! Meron ka pang Hauppage Dual Tuner and MCE remote lying around?

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Mar 13, 2006 at 09:22 AM
I'd like to ask if any member has used & tested his HDTV using a HTPC setup thru downloaded high definition material in at least 720p resolution? Will your HDTV gives you the full 720p?  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 13, 2006 at 09:38 AM
Hi Pchin, I was able to view, in full, some true 720p HD videos on a 1280px by 720px projector (Panasonic AE900) and an HD-capable RPTV. I've also tried 1080i and 1080p HD videos though clarity will only be better than 720p if your display "natively" supports it. HD video quality is really a giant leap from the regular DVD video quality we have all grown accustomed to. Those with huge displays will experience HD video in all its pure glory. :) BTW, there was some discussion about this here: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=48429.0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Mar 13, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Tnx Kato. Will check out the other thread too :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 13, 2006 at 12:27 PM
Oh most definately.  It depends on your display too.

Ive downloaded 720p and 1080p clips for comparison.  On my 720p native HDTV both look the same.  I'm guessing on a 1080p native display masmaganda ang 1080p
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Mar 13, 2006 at 04:58 PM
When HD videos are available na, will the HDCP issue affect the direct connection from a HTPC to a HDTV? It's reported the earlier DVI/HDMI chipset version isn't compatible with current HDTVs, hence resolution will be down-graded  :-[
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 13, 2006 at 05:22 PM
When HD videos are available na, will the HDCP issue affect the direct connection from a HTPC to a HDTV? It's reported the earlier DVI/HDMI chipset version isn't compatible with current HDTVs, hence resolution will be down-graded  :-[

I have read somewhere that Hollywood is exerting pressure on PC makers cuz most manufacturers have ignored the HDCP thing when making their peripherals.

Thats good for HTPC users.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 14, 2006 at 02:31 AM
When HD videos are available na, will the HDCP issue affect the direct connection from a HTPC to a HDTV? It's reported the earlier DVI/HDMI chipset version isn't compatible with current HDTVs, hence resolution will be down-graded  :-[

Yes that will be quite an issue, especially when Windows Vista Comes in.  Currently if you are running Windows XP or MCE, you can output HD using DVI/HDMI.  The new windows Vista will have DRM built into the OS. If your HD material is DRM encoded, then vista wont allow it to output at High Definition if you do not have an HDCP Video card.  So that means even on a VGA monitor, the HD signal will be crippled to 480p.  This sucks.

Currently there are no HDCP Video cards available.  The beauty though of an HTPC is that its upgradable.  Once Vista is out, Video card manufacturers will follow with HDMI with HDCP.  Then we can upgrade our video cards to that.  At this point in time, we cannot tell where its going. 

This i what I think will happen within the next 2-3years to the HTPC industry.

Windows Vista MCE with DRM
Blueray/HD DVD Rom Drives and Writers
HDCP equipped HDMI Video cards

Which we can all upgrade to in the future hopefully.  Besides, I dont think we have to worry about that now because there will be no HDTV programming in the philippines... not in at least 5yrs I think.  Also Blueray and HDDVD movies will not be available here soon.  Current HD titles nga in DVD even if you buy them in the states wont be able to play here due to DRM.  The current DRM uses the internet to check your current location, if you are not located in the US or Canada the HD material wont play.  Currently the only HD material we can play is non DRM HD, Free downloaded HD clips, trailers.   

The best thing an HTPC can do in our case is upscale DVDs to near HD quality, and of course for playback of other media (MP3/CDs/Videos/Games)

High Definition is really still in its infancy... we will just have to grow with it ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Mar 14, 2006 at 06:49 PM
@ mr. jpadua,

sir ask ko lang ... i have a ioc 17 lcd monitor with vga and dvi input, can i install my vhs player with composite video ?? in tthere any adapter to make this connection posible?

thanks and more power

-doughn
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 14, 2006 at 10:57 PM
@ mr. jpadua,

sir ask ko lang ... i have a ioc 17 lcd monitor with vga and dvi input, can i install my vhs player with composite video ?? in tthere any adapter to make this connection posible?

thanks and more power

-doughn

Yes this is possible, I cant remember exactly the brand, but there are gadets outthere with built in TV-tuners that would allow you to connect a monitor and make it a TV without the use of a PC.  It also has video inputs so you can connect a VHS player to it.  I remember seeing on in Datacore Systems in Alabang Town Center.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 27, 2006 at 02:13 PM
New HTPC project!

I'll be building a new HTPC with this case this week!

(http://www.ozcasemodz.com/images/reviews/16/image01.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 27, 2006 at 02:48 PM
@ mr. jpadua,

sir ask ko lang ... i have a ioc 17 lcd monitor with vga and dvi input, can i install my vhs player with composite video ?? in tthere any adapter to make this connection posible?

thanks and more power

-doughn

Sir - check this out, it can accept composite, s-video and cable :)

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=49275.0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Mar 27, 2006 at 04:04 PM
@ sir jpadua,

magkano sir score nyo sa case? is this available locally? ty sir
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 27, 2006 at 04:17 PM
@ sir jpadua,

magkano sir score nyo sa case? is this available locally? ty sir

No its not available locally yet, I imported one for demo muna... I might bring it in pag ok yung results...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Mar 27, 2006 at 08:28 PM
@japdua,

The case looks really nice! What boards can it accept?  Can it only use half-height cards or may riser sya for full height cards?

Keep us posted on the developments, sir!

Rene
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 27, 2006 at 09:35 PM
@japdua,

The case looks really nice! What boards can it accept?  Can it only use half-height cards or may riser sya for full height cards?

Keep us posted on the developments, sir!

Rene

Well the case is aestheticly pleasing talaga sexy! pero selective siya sa hardware.  In order to get proper cooling... kung mali yung mga hardware, super init daw yung case.

basically mATX na board.  Preferably Athlon64, for cool and quiet.  Tapos the socket should be right below the exhaust vent sa case cover para makalabas kaagad yung init.  The heatsink has to be a 1U rack type active heatsink.  Since maliit lang yung heatsink expect the temp to be higher than stock heatsinks.  Thats why the CPU should be right below the exhaust vent... tapos the fan should be inverted so that it will blow hot air out of the case through the top instead of air into the case to the CPU.

You can only use 1 full height card with a riser either an AGP riser, PCI riser or PCIe riser, so you can only choose 1 expansion card.  The DVD rom drive has to be a laptop sized drive.  It can only have 1HD inside.  Also the motherboard has to have the P4 12v socket sa taas.  If its situated sa lower right, the cable from the powersupply wont reach.  The PSU is only 200w.  But its a real rating.  Hiper makes very good powersupplies. 

If you find the perfect components for this case.... it will be really good.   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Mar 27, 2006 at 10:10 PM
Wow! thanks for the quick update.  I'm might be going to the US this month so I'm thinking of bringing back an HTPC case, pero this one is a great alternative.

Does it have other PCI slots for TV tuners and sound cards?  Does it use 2.5 inch or 3.5 inch harddisks?  May space ba sa harap for an LCD or Vacuum Display, and media card readers?

Sana pala gumamit sila ng Heatpipes instead of HSF technology.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 27, 2006 at 11:10 PM
Wow! thanks for the quick update.  I'm might be going to the US this month so I'm thinking of bringing back an HTPC case, pero this one is a great alternative.

Does it have other PCI slots for TV tuners and sound cards?  Does it use 2.5 inch or 3.5 inch harddisks?  May space ba sa harap for an LCD or Vacuum Display, and media card readers?

Sana pala gumamit sila ng Heatpipes instead of HSF technology.

unfortunately wala silang retailer sa US.  Meron lang sa UK and Australia (where I ordered mine).  If you are going to the states... browse to www.pcalchemy.com  they have a lot of nice HTPC cases.  If you really want this Slim case... I'll probably order some 5-10cases in a few months when they release their latest model

(http://www.m2systech.com/slimhtpc/slimhtpc.jpg)

Its actually the same case but with an updated front panel with VFD.

The case can only use 1 expansion slot so either a Video Card, or a Soundcard or a TV card.  The best motherboard would be an all in one, a mobo with video and audio so you can use that extra slot for a TV tuner.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 28, 2006 at 02:14 AM
The case can only use 1 expansion slot so either a Video Card, or a Soundcard or a TV card.  The best motherboard would be an all in one, a mobo with video and audio so you can use that extra slot for a TV tuner.

This black case looks sleek, but the slim 1U size configuration may be a bit too limiting for some who need a really good video card and sound card combination. Some audiophiles might want to add a professional Lynx 2 sound card. Serious gamers and/or videophiles may need a stronger video card too.

On-board A/V modules are usually of low to average entry-level quality. What motherboards would you recommend that have "relatively" good on-board video (with DVI or HDMI out) and audio (with S/PDIF) for High Definition HT applications?

Also, has anyone here tried setting up a Linux-based HTPC box yet? I'm into Linux and there are tons of open-source media center apps available. The Linux OS, media center applications, codecs, etc. are all free, making the Linux HTPC box a cost-effective and formidable (if not better and more stable) alternative to a Windows-based HTPC. Hardware support on Linux has matured over the past few years so this may be an ideal platform for HTPC enthusiasts too.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 28, 2006 at 03:56 AM
This black case looks sleek, but the slim 1U size configuration may be a bit too limiting for some who need a really good video card and sound card combination. Some audiophiles might want to add a professional Lynx 2 sound card. Serious gamers and/or videophiles may need a stronger video card too.

On-board A/V modules are usually of low to average entry-level quality. What motherboards would you recommend that have "relatively" good on-board video (with DVI or HDMI out) and audio (with S/PDIF) for High Definition HT applications?

Also, has anyone here tried setting up a Linux-based HTPC box yet? I'm into Linux and there are tons of open-source media center apps available. The Linux OS, media center applications, codecs, etc. are all free, making the Linux HTPC box a cost-effective and formidable (if not better and more stable) alternative to a Windows-based HTPC. Hardware support on Linux has matured over the past few years so this may be an ideal platform for HTPC enthusiasts too.

Cheers!



Thats true this case is indeed limiting... it really all depends on what you want to do with the htpc... for heavy use and more expandability there are a lot of great HTPC cases out there.  This one is really just for basic use... DVDs, Music, PVR Functions.  The board I am going to use with this is the RS482 which has an onboard x300 and has VGA/DVI/S-video and component outputs.  Also spdif out for audio.  Videophiles and Audiophiles are better off with the bigger cases that can accomodate Full ATX boards.  This case can serve well as an all around family type machine for the living room and home theater warrior.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 28, 2006 at 04:24 AM
Hey Jpadua,

Looks like nocturnal creature ka rin ah hehehe ;D

I really like that slim black casing since it deviates from the typical HTPC look. The ATI X300 on the DFI RS482 Infinity is good enough for most video playback up to 720p (maybe even up to 1080p with a fast Athlon). The lone slot can be reserved for a good sound card na siguro. What other mobo's would you recommend for 1U configurations? Di na ako updated sa mga bagong motherboard brands/models after a long hibernation from PC hardware/modding. May mga modders din ba dito sa PinoyDVD?

Marami na bang slot-loading DVD drives available for this black casing?

By the way, I've been looking for a good wireless keyboard with touchpad (preferably RF) na black. Maybe you have something like this? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00083Y0YG/ref=ord_cart_shr/103-6907445-6993425?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance&n=172282 but this one's silver.

I'm also looking for good heat pipes. Any local sources?

Dami kong tanong. Thanks in advance.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Mar 28, 2006 at 11:34 AM
nice one sir jpadua :D ... how much naman kaya it will cost..???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 28, 2006 at 02:40 PM
Hey Jpadua,

Looks like nocturnal creature ka rin ah hehehe ;D

I really like that slim black casing since it deviates from the typical HTPC look. The ATI X300 on the DFI RS482 Infinity is good enough for most video playback up to 720p (maybe even up to 1080p with a fast Athlon). The lone slot can be reserved for a good sound card na siguro. What other mobo's would you recommend for 1U configurations? Di na ako updated sa mga bagong motherboard brands/models after a long hibernation from PC hardware/modding. May mga modders din ba dito sa PinoyDVD?

Marami na bang slot-loading DVD drives available for this black casing?

By the way, I've been looking for a good wireless keyboard with touchpad (preferably RF) na black. Maybe you have something like this? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00083Y0YG/ref=ord_cart_shr/103-6907445-6993425?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance&n=172282 but this one's silver.

I'm also looking for good heat pipes. Any local sources?

Dami kong tanong. Thanks in advance.

Cheers!

Kato! yeah I guess nocturnal na ako ngayon! can't sleep till its like 5am hehehe.  Its really hard to find the Perfect mobo since not all of them have complete onboard stuff.

The reason why I chose to use the DFI Rs482 becuase it looks like the best all arounder.  The fact that it has VGA/DVI/S-VID/Component/Spdif optical/USB/Firewire/Gbitlan all on the back port is phenomenal for a mATX board.  The X300 like you said would be sufficient enough for DVDs 720p.  There are other boards out there that have better video capabilities also aimed at the HTPC market which use the Geforce 6150/nforce430 chipset.

ASUS, Foxconn, and Gigabyte. 
Asus= DVI output only, 5.1 Analog Audio, spdif via optional bracket
Foxconn= VGA output only, 7.1 Analog Audio, spdif, s-video, via optional bracket
Gigabyte= VGA output only, 7.1 Analog Audio, spdif via optional bracket, included S-video/Component breakoutbox

These are all great nvidia based boards and way better IGP than the Radeon Xpress200 (X300IGP) but lack connectivity options out of the box.
You would just have to be selective based on your display device (DVI or VGA). Your case should have an 2nd extra slot though for the spdif bracket which the Slim case does not have any option for unfortunately.  But if you do plan to use the HTPC for Audiophile Analog Audio, then you may use the extra slot for the Audiocard and just rely on VGA for your video, use a USB TV tuner.  It really all depends on how you want to use it.

As far as I know there is only the Panasonic Slimline Slotload.  Which I ordered a long with the Case.  You can find lots of laptop DVD drives here naman, but as for slot loads you really have to buy it outside the PI.

Ive been using the BTC wireless keyboard which could be had at 2K sa Octagon.  Its pretty good.  Its RF and has very good range compared to logitech keyboards.  Also the BTC has a built in Joystick/Mouse controller.  You can switch from Mouse mode to Joystick game mode with a function keypress on the keyboard.  I'm loving this keyboard, although I still find it hard to type since I am not used to the key layout (parang laptop) compared to a traditional keyboard.

What do you mean by heatpipes... you mean CPU heatsinks that use heatpipes?  I can recommend some if this is what you are looking for but usually these HSFs need big cases. 

Zalman 9600 (TipidPC.com contact SERVO)
Akasa EVO120 (TipidPC.com contact WAYCOOL)
Bigtyphoon 120mm fan (Rising Sun)
XP120 (TipidPC.com contact WAYCOOL)
Scythe Ninja plus 120mm fan (TipidPC.com contact WAYCOOL)

For GPU cooling, the Zalman VF700 or the new VF900 (uses heatpipe technology) these are the best in my opinion if you use a high end video card.  (TipidPC.com contact SERVO)

If you are interested in the DFI RS482 Infinity you can also contact WAYCOOL of TPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 28, 2006 at 02:50 PM
nice one sir jpadua :D ... how much naman kaya it will cost..???

considering that I only had 1 package shipped, it comes out more expensive.  This is the package I got:

Slim case
1U Athlon64/Opteron Cooler
Slimline Slotload DVD-RW w/IDE converter
P4 12v etender cable
PCIe/PCI Riser Cards
Windows MCE
Windows MCE Remote
Shipping

$495 USD. naging mahal since I ordered Windows Media Center, MCE Remote and a Slotload Slimline DVDrw.  Pero kung case lang I'm sure it would be cheaper. 

Slimcase, 1U Cooler, PCI Risercard is all you need and might cost you just about $135 + shipping, not sure though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 28, 2006 at 11:42 PM
Hey Jpadua,

Thanks for all the recommendations and leads.

Ive been using the BTC wireless keyboard which could be had at 2K sa Octagon.  Its pretty good.  Its RF and has very good range compared to logitech keyboards.  Also the BTC has a built in Joystick/Mouse controller.  You can switch from Mouse mode to Joystick game mode with a function keypress on the keyboard.  I'm loving this keyboard, although I still find it hard to type since I am not used to the key layout (parang laptop) compared to a traditional keyboard.

I saw this one too, but the built-in joystick won't work for me. I already ordered the Adesso RF Keyboard with built-in Touchpad from Amazon. The touchpad is a major advantage and convenience for me since I'm used to my laptop's touchpad. Plus, touchpads give me more precise control. RF wireless devices are much better than IR since you don't need a direct line of sight to get a connection between the host and controller.

What do you mean by heatpipes... you mean CPU heatsinks that use heatpipes?  I can recommend some if this is what you are looking for but usually these HSFs need big cases. 

Yeah, I prefer using heat pipes for CPU cooling. I'll check out the ones you listed.

Most probably, I'll settle for an HTPC case that I can get locally, since I'll just be converting my existing desktop PC (ATX form factor mobo) into an HTPC. I pretty much have everything na, except for a nice looking case. If I have the time, I might just custom-build the front panel and case just like the good ol' modding days. The black slim 1U case is just tempting, pero too constricted for my needs siguro.

Thanks again! Keep us posted on your slim HTPC project.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 29, 2006 at 04:27 AM
Hey Jpadua,

Thanks for all the recommendations and leads.

I saw this one too, but the built-in joystick won't work for me. I already ordered the Adesso RF Keyboard with built-in Touchpad from Amazon. The touchpad is a major advantage and convenience for me since I'm used to my laptop's touchpad. Plus, touchpads give me more precise control. RF wireless devices are much better than IR since you don't need a direct line of sight to get a connection between the host and controller.

Yeah, I prefer using heat pipes for CPU cooling. I'll check out the ones you listed.

Most probably, I'll settle for an HTPC case that I can get locally, since I'll just be converting my existing desktop PC (ATX form factor mobo) into an HTPC. I pretty much have everything na, except for a nice looking case. If I have the time, I might just custom-build the front panel and case just like the good ol' modding days. The black slim 1U case is just tempting, pero too constricted for my needs siguro.

Thanks again! Keep us posted on your slim HTPC project.

Cheers!



You know I saw a nice looking black desktop case in villman makati cinema square... I wasnt able to check the brand though... Its not an htpc case but It can be modded it looks nice...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Mar 29, 2006 at 03:49 PM
hi sir jpadua, i saw some nice looking case at cyberzone mega yaesterday, not sure lang if its for HTPC. i think the brand name is ASUS. malapit siya sa apple center ata. but the balck case you had posted is much nicer i think.

The price that you'd mentioned ba ($135 + shipping and $495) is the one with updated front panel with VFD?
Quote
The reason why I chose to use the DFI Rs482 becuase it looks like the best all arounder.  The fact that it has VGA/DVI/S-VID/Component/Spdif optical/USB/Firewire/Gbitlan all on the back port is phenomenal for a mATX board.  The X300 like you said would be sufficient enough for DVDs 720p.

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There are other boards out there that have better video capabilities also aimed at the HTPC market which use the Geforce 6150/nforce430 chipset.
same ba yan sir sa nakita ko? (ASUS brand)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Mar 29, 2006 at 03:53 PM
I upload the pic of the casing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 30, 2006 at 11:41 AM
Hey Jpadua! ;D I found an RS482 for around USD 110. Is that a good price?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 31, 2006 at 03:56 AM
hi sir jpadua, i saw some nice looking case at cyberzone mega yaesterday, not sure lang if its for HTPC. i think the brand name is ASUS. malapit siya sa apple center ata. but the balck case you had posted is much nicer i think.

The price that you'd mentioned ba ($135 + shipping and $495) is the one with updated front panel with VFD? same ba yan sir sa nakita ko? (ASUS brand)

Maraming 6150 mobos, meron ang Asus/Gigagbyte/MSI  I think the ASUS board is locally available....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 31, 2006 at 03:58 AM
Hey Jpadua! ;D I found an RS482 for around USD 110. Is that a good price?

Yeah thats about normal retail, got mine for P5,500 dito brand is DFI and its better than MSI in my opinion. I can ask kung meron pa syang stock if you need one.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 31, 2006 at 04:11 AM
Hey JP! Good morning! 8) I saw the DFI RS482 Infinity too. Ricky's planning on building his own HTPC, so he might be interested too. How's the Athlon 64 in terms of running Windows XP and XP 64?

Also, what are good PSU brands these days (400W and up)? Are Enermax and Task still good?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Mar 31, 2006 at 04:25 PM
Hey JP! Good morning! 8) I saw the DFI RS482 Infinity too. Ricky's planning on building his own HTPC, so he might be interested too. How's the Athlon 64 in terms of running Windows XP and XP 64?

Also, what are good PSU brands these days (400W and up)? Are Enermax and Task still good?


Athlon64 is an awesome cpu.  Runs really cool and fast too.  I would recommend A64s for HTPCs since it runs cool therefore your fan can run qieter.  As for the PSU, a lot of people love TASK.  Ive had experiences with task though... I blew up 3 Task PSUs already :D.  Enermax is still good, but not that quiet.  One of the better ones out there is the HEC winpower 430w.  Runs reall quiet to my ears, really efficient meaning no wasted power that translates to heat which translate to louder fans.  Very stable 12v rails. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Funky_Monkey on Mar 31, 2006 at 05:20 PM
Anyone know how to connect DVI from computer to those surplus TV's in Pier?  Or where to find the D4, D3 cables?  Or is there a converter cable that converts DVI to Component video?

Im currently using S-Video to connect the computer to the Wega but Im thinking there should be a way to connect to the TV digital to digital.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Mar 31, 2006 at 06:34 PM
Hey JP and everyone,

I'm just helping out Ricky build his HTPC. I'm working on a shopping list for him, but I'm not that updated on the latest brands/models and current prices. I'm sure most of you are more updated and may have better recommendations in mind, so I thought this would be a great collaboration for an educational and friendly cause. Please feel free to suggest other options/alternatives or make amendments to my draft list below.

Thanks guys! 8)

Ricky's HTPC Shopping List

A. Motherboard (Socket 939):

   Option 1. Foxconn 6150K8MA-8EKRS (4.5K)
   Option 2. DFI RS482 Infinity (5.5K)

B. Processor (Socket 939):

   Option 1. AMD Athlon64 3000+ (7K)
   Option 2. AMD Athlon64 3200+ (9.5K)

C. Memory

   Option 1. 1 GB DDR 400 184-pin PQI (4.5K)
   Option 2. 1 GB DDR 400 184-pin Kingston (5K)

D. Hard Disk

   Option 1. 80 GB Seagate SATA 7200 RPM (3.3K)
   Option 2. 200 GB Seagate SATA 7200 RPM (5.3K)

E. Optical Drive

   Option 1. Liteon SOHW-1635S (3.4K)
   Option 2. LG Collins 16x GSA-4167B (2.6K)

F. Casing

   Option 1. Regular ATX Case (?)
   Option 2. HTPC Case (?)

G. CPU Cooler
   
   Option 1. Zalman 9600 (?)
   Option 2. Akasa EVO120 (?)

H. Power Supply

   Option 1. HEC 550w WinPower HEC-550TW-ATF (4.2K)
   Option 2. Enermax 430w EG465P-VE (4.2K)

I. Miscellaneous

   Wireless Keyboard (2.5K)
   IR Multimedia Remote (?)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Mar 31, 2006 at 07:01 PM
Sorry if this off-topic or highjacking the thread....

But where can one buy mid- to high-end to speciality computer parts, ie. motherboard, cases, cooler, cpu....

Brands like DFI, Asus (mid to high end), gigabyte, thermalright...etc

If you go to Gilmore and other places, all they sell there are the low-end stuff, which are sufficient enough for some people but not for the purposes that I'm building a PC for.

For example, I was looking for an Asus A8N32-SLI and Coolermaster Stacker 830, but no one seem to have them here. One shop offered to special order the Asus but will take a very long time....

I wish we had something like newegg.com over here.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Apr 01, 2006 at 09:44 AM
nice input sir kato.... :) i hope other member may list down their want-specs also...

may masamang balak si bro ricky :D hehehe...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 01, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Anyone know how to connect DVI from computer to those surplus TV's in Pier?  Or where to find the D4, D3 cables?  Or is there a converter cable that converts DVI to Component video?

Im currently using S-Video to connect the computer to the Wega but Im thinking there should be a way to connect to the TV digital to digital.

Hey Funky_Monkey,

DVI is digital while Component video is analog. So you'll basically need a Digital-to-Analog converter.

If your video card is ATI-based, then you can easily use a DVI-to-Component adapter like this: http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?T1=121+2288&dept=tch2&search=1ca02&child=1ca02-1

For other video cards, the solution is not as direct and will be more expensive as you may need a converter/transcoder. Check out this nice discussion: http://hometheaterhifi.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-251.html

I hope this helps.  ;D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 01, 2006 at 06:36 PM
Sorry if this off-topic or highjacking the thread....

But where can one buy mid- to high-end to speciality computer parts, ie. motherboard, cases, cooler, cpu....

Brands like DFI, Asus (mid to high end), gigabyte, thermalright...etc

If you go to Gilmore and other places, all they sell there are the low-end stuff, which are sufficient enough for some people but not for the purposes that I'm building a PC for.

For example, I was looking for an Asus A8N32-SLI and Coolermaster Stacker 830, but no one seem to have them here. One shop offered to special order the Asus but will take a very long time....

I wish we had something like newegg.com over here.



tipidpc.com is a good source for mid to high end PC parts...just use their search tool.  I found an Asus SLI mobo and a CM stacker there... minsan meron minsan wala just keep visiting and searching...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 01, 2006 at 06:49 PM
A. Motherboard (Socket 939):

   Option 1. Foxconn 6150K8MA-8EKRS (4.5K)
   Option 2. DFI RS482 Infinity (5.5K)

B. Processor (Socket 939):

   Option 1. AMD Athlon64 3000+ (7K)
   Option 2. AMD Athlon64 3200+ (9.5K)

Try amd64  3500 venice P12,100

C. Memory

   Option 1. 1 GB DDR 400 184-pin PQI (4.5K)
   Option 2. 1 GB DDR 400 184-pin Kingston (5K)

try also Geil Dual Channel 1GB P4,600

D. Hard Disk

   Option 1. 80 GB Seagate SATA 7200 RPM (3.3K)
   Option 2. 200 GB Seagate SATA 7200 RPM (5.3K)

250GB Seagate sata 6,000 kaso 2 weeks pa bago magkaroon... I can get it for you

E. Optical Drive

   Option 1. Liteon SOHW-1635S (3.4K)
   Option 2. LG Collins 16x GSA-4167B (2.6K)

Benq 1640 the best DVDRW in my opinion burns well on any disc! playable on regular DVD players also

F. Casing

   Option 1. Regular ATX Case (?)
   Option 2. HTPC Case (?)

for a tower case the best is an Antec P180 Quiet and Great Cooling and Minimalist design.

G. CPU Cooler
   
   Option 1. Zalman 9600 (?)
   Option 2. Akasa EVO120 (?)

The Zalamn 9600 is good I have one...
Akasa havent tried the evo 120

Scythe Ninja is the best one coupled with a 120mm fan - most efficient and very very silent... 120mm fan on low is better than a Zalaman9600 on high.  I can get one also... have to check the price though and availability.
Thermaltake tornado 120 best budget HSF, just change the fan to a 120 panaflo

H. Power Supply

   Option 1. HEC 550w WinPower HEC-550TW-ATF (4.2K)
   Option 2. Enermax 430w EG465P-VE (4.2K)

I'd go for the winpower

I. Miscellaneous

   Wireless Keyboard (2.5K)
   IR Multimedia Remote (?)

Not available here....
If u can still find a BTC wireless keyboard, maganda yun 2K kaso out of stock sa Octagon Stores ... check nalang for availability
IR Remote... I can get a Sapphire Theatrix TV tuner that uses the ATI Theater550 chip. Comes with a very nice remote thats also MCE compatible... I can get it for P4,300
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Apr 01, 2006 at 10:55 PM
Quote
A. Motherboard (Socket 939):

   Option 1. Foxconn 6150K8MA-8EKRS (4.5K)
   Option 2. DFI RS482 Infinity (5.5K)

B. Processor (Socket 939):

   Option 1. AMD Athlon64 3000+ (7K)
   Option 2. AMD Athlon64 3200+ (9.5K)

Foxconn ... cons .. no dvi , s-video output is bad, you need an adaptor to get spdif digital audio out
                  pros  ..hd acceleration , purevideo , faster usb2 thruput, good overclocker


DFI   .... cons no HD acceleration, slower usb2 thruput, more difficult to buy , wala ata stock ngayon

       ......pros great overclocker , was able to get 2.4 Ghz A64 3800 xp equivalent from an A64 200o xp. , video out looks better for me , even sa VGA lang, complete set of video and audio outs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 01, 2006 at 11:09 PM
Thanks so much guys esp Kato,Jpadua and jamban ;) pls keep it coming since there are a lot of factors to consider pala and hindi lang yung price ??? As for the price difference naman konti lang pala increments so i feel mapapamahal ako by always saying na since small diff alng naman sa price ill get the better one na :P :P :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: timMCE on Apr 02, 2006 at 12:51 AM
hi everyone, hi jay -- boss, I got the some channel guides to work but some are still out of sked. have you had a chance to fool around with TVXB and MCE yet? can you send me the .ini files... thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 02, 2006 at 09:10 AM
hi everyone, hi jay -- boss, I got the some channel guides to work but some are still out of sked. have you had a chance to fool around with TVXB and MCE yet? can you send me the .ini files... thanks

Hi Timmy, actually I havent played around with TVXB yet, havent installed MCE pa.. but I think I do have my old inifiles.. the ones that worked before...

Give me your email address I'll send it to you... see if it works.. although this ini file was for an older version of TVXB... the time nung wala pang bladerunner.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 02, 2006 at 09:45 AM
Kato, Ricky...

I think I've found an affordable mATX case (that can be oriented horizontally for an HTPC) that may be available locally!

It's made by chenbro... and I do know for a fact that Chenbro has local distro's here... You may have seen these cases already without you knowing... if you go to restaurants you might notice POS (point of sales) PCs where your waiter enters your order... thats the one...

(http://www.chenbro.com.tw/usa/workspace/pdimage/PC805_front_00d18e56aa6278362fe404b87c718c1b.gif)

There are two kinds of front bezels for this case... the one you see in the resto's is one... but maybe if you could talk to a Chenbro distro you can ask them to get the other facia which is more HTPC'ish...

(http://www.chenbro.com.tw/usa/workspace/pdimage/PC805_front_d8a2cce94e6151130da89c37d91545b5.gif)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 02, 2006 at 05:27 PM
Wow cool looking case jpadua 8) Im not so particular about having athin htpc case kasi mahal ;D I'd rather spend for the hardwares 8) Around how much po kaya itong case na ito? Matzter told me he saw a nice looking htpc case for on 2.9t ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Apr 02, 2006 at 07:06 PM
wow...ganda... :)

hope to build na din my htpc (tipid htpc lang) hehe :) di pa matuloy tuloy..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 03, 2006 at 01:37 AM
I think mura lang yung chenbro, shouldnt be more than 2k... if it is indeed the one used for POS
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 03, 2006 at 07:26 AM
Hey Everyone,

I've been contemplating on a new video card for my HTPC and now I'm leaning towards an MSI GeForce 6600, specifically this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007WZO4I/ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007WZO4I/sr=1-13/qid=1144015548/ref=sr_1_13/103-6907445-6993425?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=electronics)

I think it's the strongest candidate for my purpose because of all its nice HD-related features here: http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html plus it's got all the HD outputs I need: YPbPr component, VGA and DVI/HDMI

I'm just not sure if MSI is a good brand when it comes to video cards, although I've known them for their motherboards in the past.

Do you think this is a wise choice or are there better alternatives within the same price range? Or are ATI Radeon X Series better?

Thanks! ;D


BTW, Jay, that's a great looking HTPC case. Not as sleek as the black 1U one, pero pwedeng pwede na, specially for only under 2K. Sayang, my current board is ATX and I've got quite a few cards and drives, so I'll definitely end up with a big fat box ;D ;D


Yo Ricky, do you still wanna go for a regular-sized ATX casing or with this very affordable Chenbro case? My brother-in-law's GF is going abroad next month and she has an unused MSI ATX LGA775 motherboard, GeForce MX 4000 video card and Pentium 4 3GHz LGA775 processor, etc. etc. Dapat assemble ng bro-in-law ko for her kaso di nila natapos. Do you want me to ask her if she wants to sell them? Sabi ko kasi benta na lang niya or bigay sakin ;D ;D I think pwedeng-pwede yun sayo if you're not going for the mATX board.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Apr 03, 2006 at 08:33 AM
I think mura lang yung chenbro, shouldnt be more than 2k... if it is indeed the one used for POS

pwede na nga yun if less 2k nga. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 03, 2006 at 09:26 AM
wow kato sige nga try to ask how much the damage would be if they're going to dispose it na ;D And from the list you suggested, wala ako napansin na video and sound cards ???  or built in na yon sa motherboard? ??? ??? ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 03, 2006 at 09:36 AM
Hey Ricky, the mATX DFI RS482 motherboard has on-board video and 7.1 channel audio na. Pero if you're going for upgradability, siguro settle for an ATX board and casing. Sexy lang talaga ang mga mATX casings. ;D So siguro try to weigh which route you wanna go... sexy (but on a diet) or fat (but strong and mean)? hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 03, 2006 at 09:42 AM
Hey Ricky, the mATX DFI RS482 motherboard has on-board video and 7.1 channel audio na. Pero if you're going for upgradability, siguro settle for an ATX board and casing. Sexy lang talaga ang mga mATX casings. ;D So siguro try to weigh which route you wanna go... sexy (but on a diet) or fat (but strong and mean)? hehehe

Bro syempre love your own,doon ako sa FAT ;D strong but not mean,meaningful pwede pa ;D ;D ;D Bro sa casing pwede na sa akin kahit yung mga tower lang kasi I've noticed lately na magaganda na din yung dating nya,i just want it in pure black na minimalist lang ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 03, 2006 at 01:25 PM
I have a bnew Xmystique 7.1 with Dolby digital live encoding... google about it nalang to find out about it.  PM if your interested nalang.. I brought in 10 of these... only have 2 more left.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 03, 2006 at 10:29 PM
HTPC Guru JPadua is helping me build my HTPC.  So far, I've already bought the items below.  My sister and her whole family will be coming home from the States for a visit end of May and will be bringing all these stuff for me (saving shipping costs as they virtually have nothing much to bring, and hopefully, no taxes).

I'm already excited but Jay cautioned me to wait for the items first before we buy the other stuff cause there might be compatibility issues.  Not to mention warranty issues.  I bought item 2 and 3 at Ebay.

Sorry if I feel like a small kid showing off what I bought.  But I'm just too excited with this new project.  With more members joining this thread maybe you can give me more suggestions, additions, and things to consider for this project.


Thanks. (special mention to JPadua who graciously demoed his own unit that made me decide to embark on this journey)





(http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/images/products/large/20053YR.jpg)

1. Dell™ UltraSharp™ 2005FPW 20.1-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor (from Dell USA)

(http://www.pcalchemy.com/images/silverstone/lc14m/lc14bm.jpg)

2. SilverStone Lascala SST-LC14M w/VFD and Remote, Black (from ebay usa)

(http://www.hauppauge.com/images/pvr250_w_remote_small.jpg)

3. Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 250 (from ebay usa)

(http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/xoxide/xmystique-71-gold-3.jpg)

4. Auzentech HDA Digital XMystique 7.1 Gold Sound Card (from jpadua)

(http://images.tigerdirect.com/Skuimages/large/C460-9008-main01.jpg)

5. BTC 9019URF Wireless Multimedia USB Keyboard with Joystick (from Octagon Mega)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 04, 2006 at 12:14 AM
Congrats sir voj ;D You've made the right decision ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 04, 2006 at 12:22 AM
Vojie, your Dell monitor is the bomb!!! I just saw one this evening, Jambam was nice enough to show me his system... all I can say is wow! what a monitor..... you really got a good deal on that one Voj!  You've really got to see that monitor in action watching HD clips... simply amazing.

Jambam, thanks for the DVI to hdmi cables and the "other stuff" :) 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Apr 04, 2006 at 01:08 AM
congrats sir voj :D :D



i just saw lang nga pala last march30 sa Octagon(tama ba?yung sa center 4thflr) MEgamall.dami pa nilang stock dun na BTC wireless RF keyboard... dont know lang if may stock pa ngayon... :) box is color blu and yellow ata.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 04, 2006 at 06:56 AM
congrats sir voj :D :D



i just saw lang nga pala last march30 sa Octagon(tama ba?yung sa center 4thflr) MEgamall.dami pa nilang stock dun na BTC wireless RF keyboard... dont know lang if may stock pa ngayon... :) box is color blu and yellow ata.

Thanks, I'll try Megamall later.  Told my sis to hold off ordering the keyboard while I look if Mega has one.


To Jpadua, ricky, ronjet

Nakakainip waiting  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 04, 2006 at 10:29 AM
nakakainip talaga,  I have all my parts waiting... case nalang...

Athlon 3500 venice
1GB Dual Channel Geil Value
200gb Seagate Sata
DFI RS482 Infinity
Sapphire Theatrix Theater550

oh the wait is agony hehehe....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 04, 2006 at 11:29 AM
nakakainip talaga,  I have all my parts waiting... case nalang...

Athlon 3500 venice
1GB Dual Channel Geil Value
200gb Seagate Sata
DFI RS482 Infinity
Sapphire Theatrix Theater550

oh the wait is agony hehehe....

ako naman yung monitor and case, nasa sister ko na kaya lang sa MAy ko pa mahawakan.

Jay, can you pm me individual cost of the first four items on your list.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Apr 04, 2006 at 11:38 AM
Just bought 2 more Western Digital 250Gb drives from TPC.  I plan to set up a 500Gb File Server for my HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 04, 2006 at 12:03 PM
Just bought 2 more Western Digital 250Gb drives from TPC.  I plan to set up a 500Gb File Server for my HTPC.

Hi Rene,

please report how those drives do... I was planning on getting the 250GB WD but I got dettered by the warranyty compared to Seagates 5yr warranty... How's the speed, Noise Etc. ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 04, 2006 at 03:01 PM
congrats sir voj :D :D



i just saw lang nga pala last march30 sa Octagon(tama ba?yung sa center 4thflr) MEgamall.dami pa nilang stock dun na BTC wireless RF keyboard... dont know lang if may stock pa ngayon... :) box is color blu and yellow ata.

got a BTC keyboard at Octagon Mega.  Thanks for the tip.  Meron pang stocks available doon. P2047.00
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Apr 04, 2006 at 05:04 PM
Thanks, I'll try Megamall later. Told my sis to hold off ordering the keyboard while I look if Mega has one.


To Jpadua, ricky, ronjet

Nakakainip waiting ;D
Sir Voj, sigurado namang sulit yan pagdumating na!!! :) konting araw nalang naman !!! :)

got a BTC keyboard at Octagon Mega. Thanks for the tip. Meron pang stocks available doon. P2047.00

NICE!...congrats sir voj!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Apr 04, 2006 at 05:05 PM
nakakainip talaga, I have all my parts waiting... case nalang...

Athlon 3500 venice
1GB Dual Channel Geil Value
200gb Seagate Sata
DFI RS482 Infinity
Sapphire Theatrix Theater550

oh the wait is agony hehehe....

Master JAY, pwede pa pm me din damage of these parts so i can have an idea po.. thanks po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 04, 2006 at 07:54 PM
(http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/optix/170L_sd_front_314x314.jpg)

(http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/optix/L_sd_rear_314x314.jpg)

What do you guys think of this case for a possible HTPC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 04, 2006 at 07:58 PM
hi! share ko lang for your comments and recommendations.  i have the following specs in my computer:
athlon 64 sitting on k8n neo platinum mobo
1 Gb ram (512x2)
160Gb SATA HDD
20Gb IDE HDD (boot)
lg dvd/cr-r/w combo drive
winfast tv 2000 expert
ati radeon 9600 video card
sound blaster audigy

i am still not able to use it as an htpc kasi gamit ko pa sa work but will be doing so in the near future.  anyways, i sometimes experience "freezing" in the display...minsan matagal ang reaction ng computer especially multi-tasking of various office softwares. i figure na if use this as a htpc, baka mag-hang lalo.  ano kaya ang kulang ko at bakit parang hindi seamless ang dating ng video display? dagdag pa kaya ako ng ram or my video card is not up to the task?
do you have any suggestions on how to improve this system for a htpc set-up including the price for budgetary purposes?  do you have any suggestions for a htpc case na affordable? tia.

agmjr
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rene_canlas on Apr 04, 2006 at 08:08 PM
Hi Rene,

please report how those drives do... I was planning on getting the 250GB WD but I got dettered by the warranyty compared to Seagates 5yr warranty... How's the speed, Noise Etc. ?

Will do. This is my second and third drive actually.  I put the 1st one directly onto my HTPC.  Performance is good.  Can't tell you much about the noise since all sounds from the PC are drowned out by the fans :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: purple_jedi on Apr 04, 2006 at 09:25 PM
(http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/optix/170L_sd_front_314x314.jpg)

(http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/optix/L_sd_rear_314x314.jpg)

What do you guys think of this case for a possible HTPC?

ok yan voj, ha? is it available locally? want to build an HTPC myself but can't seem to find a good looking case. congrats on your upcoming toy  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 04, 2006 at 09:32 PM
(http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/optix/170L_sd_front_314x314.jpg)
What do you guys think of this case for a possible HTPC?

Would look great with your gaming gear (kinda looks a bit like an Xbox 360), but too fancy/toyish if you lay it together with serious Audio/Video gear.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 04, 2006 at 10:02 PM
ok yan voj, ha? is it available locally? want to build an HTPC myself but can't seem to find a good looking case. congrats on your upcoming toy  :)


saw this at HMR, kaya lang they're selling complete CPU units.  Visit jpadua's site - there's a lot of info there on building HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Apr 04, 2006 at 10:04 PM

saw this at HMR, kaya lang they're selling complete CPU units.  Visit jpadua's site - there's a lot of info there on building HTPC.

Voj,

How much do they sell this kind of Dell PC's nowadays at HMR ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 04, 2006 at 10:07 PM
Voj,

How much do they sell this kind of Dell PC's nowadays at HMR ?

tag price is P10k+ change. Although kaunti na lang available.  Most of the dell optiplex i saw where already awaiting shipment and marked sold.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 05, 2006 at 03:29 AM
(http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/optix/170L_sd_front_314x314.jpg)

(http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/optix/L_sd_rear_314x314.jpg)

What do you guys think of this case for a possible HTPC?

ok yung case ah.. parang sarap i mod... paint it silver parang ngang xbox 360.. I guess the innards can be replaced by more high performance hardware for gaming... hmmm
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 05, 2006 at 03:47 AM
Will do. This is my second and third drive actually.  I put the 1st one directly onto my HTPC.  Performance is good.  Can't tell you much about the noise since all sounds from the PC are drowned out by the fans :(

Thanks! hmmm I'll try the WD 250 Sata... may 8mb cache yun so it should be fast.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 05, 2006 at 03:55 AM
hi! share ko lang for your comments and recommendations.  i have the following specs in my computer:
athlon 64 sitting on k8n neo platinum mobo
1 Gb ram (512x2)
160Gb SATA HDD
20Gb IDE HDD (boot)
lg dvd/cr-r/w combo drive
winfast tv 2000 expert
ati radeon 9600 video card
sound blaster audigy

i am still not able to use it as an htpc kasi gamit ko pa sa work but will be doing so in the near future.  anyways, i sometimes experience "freezing" in the display...minsan matagal ang reaction ng computer especially multi-tasking of various office softwares. i figure na if use this as a htpc, baka mag-hang lalo.  ano kaya ang kulang ko at bakit parang hindi seamless ang dating ng video display? dagdag pa kaya ako ng ram or my video card is not up to the task?
do you have any suggestions on how to improve this system for a htpc set-up including the price for budgetary purposes?  do you have any suggestions for a htpc case na affordable? tia.

agmjr

athlon 64 sitting on k8n neo platinum mobo
1 Gb ram (512x2)
160Gb SATA HDD
20Gb IDE HDD (boot)
lg dvd/cr-r/w combo drive
winfast tv 2000 expert
ati radeon 9600 video card
sound blaster audigy

Actually thats already a good HTPC setup! hardware wise... if you were to convert it to an HTPC I suggest a complete system wipe... re install the os and only install codecs that are nessesary for playback... Otherwise you'll bloat the system.  Also very important if you are using an A64 install the Athlon64 Driver which can be downloaded from AMDs website... I didnt know I was missing so much just because I didnt install the driver.  Performance boost especially when playing HD video clips.  I dont have an form of HD acceleration in my card but I can play TS files and WMV-HD with only 60% CPU usage... before the driver I was hitting 80-90%.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 05, 2006 at 10:06 AM
Hi guys,

I have set aside a budget for a CD player. But I am also interested in HTPC, but my priority and budget  is allocated for a CD player.

Is there a way that I can convert a HTPC to a good CD player? Say by using a good PC DAC? Is there such a thing in the local market?

I am seriously considering this option. I think it would save me a lot (depends on the cost of the DAC) and I would get both a good CD and DVD player.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Apr 05, 2006 at 10:32 AM
Matz,

There are hi -end pc soundcards for proffesional use ( expensive) , but in -itself the pc case is a noisy environment , so the real high end audio stuff is done w/ an outboard analog section .

But another thing you can do is just use the htpc as a cd transport , where you get bit-perfect output by using the appropriate sound card ( around P1.5k)  and just connect via spdif to a external dac or your reciever's decoder w/c ever is better
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 05, 2006 at 11:00 AM
@sir jpadua,
as always sir, thank you po sa tips and advice
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Apr 05, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Hi guys,

I have set aside a budget for a CD player. But I am also interested in HTPC, but my priority and budget  is allocated for a CD player.

Is there a way that I can convert a HTPC to a good CD player? Say by using a good PC DAC? Is there such a thing in the local market?

I am seriously considering this option. I think it would save me a lot (depends on the cost of the DAC) and I would get both a good CD and DVD player.

Thanks

Hi!

Just got myself a Chainteck AV-710 (P1,400.00) soundcard. Me hirez output. You can extract wav files from your CD and play them using Foobar2000. You can upsample this to 24/96.  Kung 2 channel-playback lang ang gusto mo, I suggest this.

more info:

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=311285

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=42577&page=1

Louie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 05, 2006 at 03:08 PM
The HDA Xmystique 7.1 with DDLIve has upgradable opamps which can be replaced by burbrown opamps... thats if you are really interested in DACs inside the soundcard itself.  Another card that has upgradable opamps is the HDA Xplosion 7.1 w DTS connect.

The card has diptype removable opamps for all the channels but you can replace only the Left and right if you only want to improve the stereo output.

OPA2134PA is recommended by HDA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 05, 2006 at 03:33 PM
thanks for your replies bros.

Yes, I listen to 2 channel only.

Question: If my receiver has 192khz/24bit DACs in its specs, does that mean it will do the DAC work?

Also another problem I suddenly thought of (for the HTPC/CDP) was that I will be using a projector, so it will be impractical to open the PJ just to see which track is playing. Will the wireless keyboard handle the forward/rewind controls?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Apr 05, 2006 at 04:07 PM
thanks for your replies bros.

Yes, I listen to 2 channel only.

Question: If my receiver has 192khz/24bit DACs in its specs, does that mean it will do the DAC work?


Yes, use the optical out of the soundcard.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 05, 2006 at 04:27 PM
Also another problem I suddenly thought of (for the HTPC/CDP) was that I will be using a projector, so it will be impractical to open the PJ just to see which track is playing. Will the wireless keyboard handle the forward/rewind controls?

Hey Matz, you can use a secondary display like a small LCD/TV monitor or if you're using an HTPC with a VFD panel, you can program it to display the tracks or other media info.

For control, you can use an IR multimedia remote (or use your universal learning remote) or a wireless keyboard. Like I'll be using an Adesso RF keyboard with touchpad (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00083Y0YG/), which is perfect for me since I also plan to use the HTPC for surfing and other stuff while laying on the sofa. Technically, I'll be using my 43" Sony RPTV as a huge monitor, but of course, mainly for viewing HD videos. ;D ;D ;D

For serious audio, I'd still recommend an external DAC (like your receiver's, etc.). Otherwise, if you're looking for an all-in-one-box high-end solution, I'd recommend professional sound cards from Lynx Studio (www.lynxstudio.com). They make professional sound cards used in many recording studios for mastering many of the CD's we have today. These are expensive though (USD 1,000 and up).

Looks like sabay-sabay tayo nila Ricky with our HTPC projects ah. Sabay na kayo ni Ricky mag shopping. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 05, 2006 at 04:41 PM
Hey Matz, you can use a secondary display like a small LCD/TV monitor or if you're using an HTPC with a VFD panel, you can program it to display the tracks or other media info.

For control, you can use an IR multimedia remote or a wireless keyboard. Like I'll be using an Adesso RF keyboard with touchpad (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00083Y0YG/), which is perfect for me since I also plan to use the HTPC for surfing and other stuff while laying on the sofa. Technically, I'll be using my 43" Sony RPTV as a huge monitor, but of course, mainly for viewing HD videos. ;D ;D ;D

For serious audio, I'd still recommend an external DAC. Otherwise, if you're looking for an all-in-one-box high-end solution, I'd recommend professional sound cards from Lynx Studio (www.lynxstudio.com). They make professional sound cards used in many recording studios for mastering many of the CD's we have today. These are expensive though (USD 1,000 and up).

Looks like sabay-sabay tayo nila Ricky with our HTPC projects ah. Sabay na kayo ni Ricky mag shopping.

Yikes!  I am allergic to more spending, so $1k sound card and small LCD monitor is out of the question  ;D.

But the wireless keyboard solution is a relief.

Thanks bro. It looks like an external DAC is the solution to my problem now :-\

Baka di ako makasabay. I still have to priritize audio for now than video, I already have an upconverting player.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 05, 2006 at 04:43 PM
I almost have all the ingredients for my HTPC. Last things on my shopping list:

1. HEC WinPower 480w (or 550w) Power Supply
2. A really nice black HTPC Case

I can't seem to find any retailers who have those (or have them in stock). Help, please? :-*

I wanna start cookin'!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 05, 2006 at 04:51 PM
Yaiks!  I am allergic to more spending, so $1k sound card and small LCD monitor is out of the question  ;D.

But the wireless keyboard solution is a relief.

Thanks bro. It looks like an external DAC is the solution to my problem now :-\

Baka di ako makasabay. I still have to priritize audio for now than video, I already have an upconverting player.

LOL! ;D Yeah, I'd settle for an Xmystique as Jpadua suggested.

You can also try the BTC Wireless Keyboard (saw them in Octagon Megamall too), but it uses a small joystick, which I personally find cumbersome to use if you plan on using your HTPC other than playing videos/music. Unfortunately, the Adesso is the only cheapest RF Wireless Keyboard with built-in touchpad around (at USD 86 >:(). I think there are also some keyboards with built-in track balls, but again, they're awkward to use.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 05, 2006 at 04:56 PM
Baka di ako makasabay. I still have to priritize audio for now than video, I already have an upconverting player.

Cool! ;D What player did you get? Did you get the Oppo? Muntik na kami bumili ni Ricky.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Apr 05, 2006 at 11:08 PM
QUESTION:

I assume that you can use your TV as monitor and monitor as TV in a typical HTPC setup, Can you use both?  Like the TV showing regular broadcasting or playing downloaded divx and the monitor doing computing stuff?
What do you need to install 2 monitors and 1 TV on an HTPC setup?

I'm looking at a scenario wherein you can transfer to another room and bring your wireless keyboard.  Also, what is the limitation in cable length from your PC to a monitor.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 05, 2006 at 11:47 PM
QUESTION:

I assume that you can use your TV as monitor and monitor as TV in a typical HTPC setup, Can you use both?  Like the TV showing regular broadcasting or playing downloaded divx and the monitor doing computing stuff?
What do you need to install 2 monitors and 1 TV on an HTPC setup?

I'm looking at a scenario wherein you can transfer to another room and bring your wireless keyboard.  Also, what is the limitation in cable length from your PC to a monitor.

Yes, you can use both displays/monitors at the same time, limited only by your video card's capacity and features. You can even install extra video cards for additional displays. I've tried 4 displays before using 2 video cards with 2 DVI out on each card, but not for HTPC. I used that setup for a graphics workstation working on video editing and 3D graphics/animation. A similar HTPC setup shouldn't be too different, except for the use of TV tuner(s).

As for DVI cable length, the longest that I've tried is only around 6 meters with no noticable signal loss/degradation. Longer DVI or HDMI cables use thicker/higher-quality wires to compensate for the distance. There are also DVI repeaters/amplifiers available like this one: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=1207
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 06, 2006 at 03:41 AM
I use dual monitor setup all the time :)  One is connected to my LCD TV and the other to a VGA monitor... while playing or watching TV, I use the other monitor for computer stuff....  You can switch them too if you prefer to work on the larger (HDTV) monitor and have the video on the smaller monitor.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 06, 2006 at 10:36 AM
Cool! ;D What player did you get? Did you get the Oppo? Muntik na kami bumili ni Ricky.

I got a GIEC upconverting (component) DVD player that I got last year April. We along with several members (ricky was there) put it head to head with a Denon 1920 and it was still better (by a bit) than the Denon in many (video) aspects. And that was considering the Denon was using HDMI and the GIEC was using component to the PJ.

Back to topic: Why buy Oppo when a HTPC is better? HTPC na lang, definitely. I had another member (pchin) come here so we could compare his HDMI upconverting DVD player vs a PC VGA connection and the PC was definitely better and had higher resolution. We used the LCD TV for reference, not the PJ.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 06, 2006 at 11:26 AM
Really excited na nga,i just hope kasya yung budget ko :P Yeah mat,kato and i almost bought an oppo but after some review(and convincing from kato ;D) I've decided to build a HTPC instead,kahit medyo mahal sya pero atleast future proof na  ;) pati si munskie bubuo na din ;D

Kato im not into gaming so do you think hindi ko na ba kailangan ng separate audio and video card? ??? will the on-board ones be enough to play 720p,1080p and hd dvds? ??? sorry ha wala talaga ako alam pa dito,and everytime i try to read things about htpc eh mas nalilito ako kasi mas madami na terms na im not familiar with ;D For now my idea is to get a fast one with atleast a 250gb hard drive memory and 1gb ram :)

thanks for your patience guys ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 06, 2006 at 11:27 AM
Back to topic: Why buy Oppo when a HTPC is better? HTPC na lang, definitely. I had another member (pchin) come here so we could compare his HDMI upconverting DVD player vs a PC VGA connection and the PC was definitely better and had higher resolution. We used the LCD TV for reference, not the PJ.

Yeah, amen to that! A computer with a capable video card and relatively fast processor will deliver much better PQ than stand alone players, specially if you use good media players, proper codecs and the right filters (for deinterlacing, upconverting, noise reduction, etc.). Not only because computer-based/generated video is inherently progressive, but imagine all that processing power!

I wanted to get the Oppo for my dad for its outright out-of-the-box convenience, plus it's very affordable considering its features. The advantages of using an HTPC is unquestionable (if done right), specially for tech savvy enthusiasts. 8) But, there are some who'd prefer the more orthodox ways...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 06, 2006 at 11:46 AM
Really excited na nga,i just hope kasya yung budget ko :P Yeah mat,kato and i almost bought an oppo but after some review(and convincing from kato ;D) I've decided to build a HTPC instead,kahit medyo mahal sya pero atleast future proof na  ;) pati si munskie bubuo na din ;D

It wasn't that hard to convince you. You were destined to be one with the force.

Kato im not into gaming so do you think hindi ko na ba kailangan ng separate audio and video card? ??? will the on-board ones be enough to play 720p,1080p and hd dvds? ??? sorry ha wala talaga ako alam pa dito,and everytime i try to read things about htpc eh mas nalilito ako kasi mas madami na terms na im not familiar with ;D For now my idea is to get a fast one with atleast a 250gb hard drive memory and 1gb ram :)

Personally, I'd go for a strong video card and sound card. But, don't rush it. Try mo muna yung on-board video/audio components ng board mo and do a blind side-by-side comparison. It's always easy to upgrade to better video/sound cards later on. That's the beauty of the HTPC's expandability. Pag natapos na yung HTPC natin, let's do a blind test with your great gears. I'll be using a GeForce 6600 graphics card and my mobo's on-board 7.1 audio. I'll just upgrade to a better sound card later on as my ears dictate.

For your hard disk, bigger is always better, but if you'll be using your HTPC mainly for HD/DVD/audio playback, you won't need it to be that big. If you'll be installing a TV tuner and will be doing some program recording, then you'll need a huge hard disk. Also, if you'll be using your HTPC like me, for downloading "stuff", you'll definitely need all the hard disk space you can afford.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 06, 2006 at 01:38 PM
Really excited na nga,i just hope kasya yung budget ko :P Yeah mat,kato and i almost bought an oppo but after some review(and convincing from kato ;D) I've decided to build a HTPC instead,kahit medyo mahal sya pero atleast future proof na  ;) pati si munskie bubuo na din ;D

Kato im not into gaming so do you think hindi ko na ba kailangan ng separate audio and video card? ??? will the on-board ones be enough to play 720p,1080p and hd dvds? ??? sorry ha wala talaga ako alam pa dito,and everytime i try to read things about htpc eh mas nalilito ako kasi mas madami na terms na im not familiar with ;D For now my idea is to get a fast one with atleast a 250gb hard drive memory and 1gb ram :)

thanks for your patience guys ;)

Tama si Kato, start first with onboard, asuming you will be using a motherboard with a capable igp like the 6150 mobos or Xpress200. Then after some time na bitin ka na then thats when you add a videocard or a better soundcard. 

Have you chosen a motherboard yet?  If you are really concerned with playing HD, 6150 mobos might be a better choice since the IGP is a Geforce6 series that supports pure video HD acceleration, also some 6150 boards have already built in HD-Audio chipsets.

There are many manufacturers to choose from.. just choose whats best for you...

Asus 6150 - DVI only 5.1 (optional bracket required for S-video and Spdif)
Foxconn 6150 - VGA\S-video\7.1 included s-video bracket (optional bracket required for Spdif)
Gigabyte 6150 - VGA\S-video\Component\7.1 included S-video\component breakout box (optional bracket required for Spdif)

The Geforce 7 line has acceleration for h.264 which will be the standard for HD-DVD and Blueray.  As of now there is no need yet since matagal pa ma rereplace ang DVDs with HD-DVD and Blueray.  By the time those become standard newer video cards will be out.. HDMI video cards.  Then again you only really need HDMI video cards when Vista becomes a standard.  So again don't look too far ahead.  Start with onboard then migrate later on.

As for Xpress200  the dfi rs482 has VGA/DVI/S-video/Component/Spdif all on the back i/o which makes it a good board for everything... No WMV/H.264 hardware acceleration though, 720p and 1080i is playable but with higher CPU usage.  For the time being this is sufficient for me since its too early to adopt future HD standards...  I will just upgrade the Video card and Soundcard when needed.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 06, 2006 at 02:50 PM
Actually most of the GeForce 6 series already have hardware acceleration support for HD content such as H.264, WMV9, MPEG-2, like the 6600 (http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html). I think the 6600 is the most reasonably priced video card for guaranteed HD viewing and 3D gaming satisfaction.


Ricky, I can almost see the light... malapit na ma-finalize yung shopping list mo. How's this?

A. Motherboard (Socket 939):

   Option 1. Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT-9 with HD video and HD audio support
   Option 2. Asus A8N-VM CSM with HD video and HD audio support
   Option 3. DFI RS482 Infinity (5.5K)

B. Processor (Socket 939):

   Option 1. AMD Athlon64 3000+ (7K)
   Option 2. AMD Athlon64 3200+ (9.5K)
   Option 3. AMD Athlon64 3500+ Venice (12.1K)

C. Memory

   Option 1. 1 GB Geil Dual Channel DDR 400 184-pin (4.6K)
   Option 2. 1 GB Kingston DDR 400 184-pin (5K)
   Option 3. 1 GB PQI DDR 400 184-pin (4.5K)

D. Hard Disk

   Option 1. 80 GB Seagate SATA 7200 RPM (3.3K)
   Option 2. 200 GB Seagate SATA 7200 RPM (5.3K)
   Option 3. 250GB Seagate SATA 7200 RPM (6K, care of JPadua)

E. Optical Drive

   Option 1. Liteon SOHW-1635S (3.4K)
   Option 2. LG Collins 16x GSA-4167B (2.6K)
   Option 3. Benq 1640 (recommended by JPadua)

F. Casing

   Option 1. Antec P180 ATX Tower Case (recommended by JPadua)
   Option 2. HTPC Case (you may want one with a VFD)

G. CPU Cooler
   
   Option 1. Scythe Ninja coupled with a 120mm fan (recommended by JPadua)
   Option 2. Zalman 9600 (?)

H. Power Supply

   Option 1. HEC 550w WinPower HEC-550TW-ATF (4.2K)

I. Miscellaneous/Optional Components

   - Sapphire Theatrix TV Tuner (4.3K, care of JPadua)
   - BTC RF Wireless Keyboard (2K+)
   - Adesso RF Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad (4.5K+)
   - IR Multimedia Remote (?)
   - HD video card
   - HD sound card

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 06, 2006 at 04:05 PM
Jpadua and kato, you guys are really cool 8) Im trying to review the list kato and take the pricing into consideration para mafinalize na ;D
Title: Nvidia Dual TV Tuner is finally out
Post by: jpadua on Apr 07, 2006 at 06:47 PM
Hardware mpeg2 with dual tuners and built-in purevideo technology in the encoder!

(http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/30696/dualtv_box.jpg)

NVIDIA has applied its renowned PureVideo™ technology to the DualTV tuner enabling the highest possible picture quality on a PC to date. In addition to PureVideo, the NVIDIA DualTV tuner features:

    * 3D comb filter—to create high-quality color separations and enhance image detail.
    * 3D noise reduction hardware—to clean up the signal, thus removing artifacts.
    * In-line TV amplifier—to boost weak signals.
    * Multi-stream hardware encoder—to record crystal clear TV shows with low CPU utilization.

In addition to these picture-quality enhancing features, the NVIDIA DualTV tuner carries the Imaging Science Foundation (ISF) certification, signifying that it meets ISF standards for home theater-quality television tuning and recording. Since 1994, ISF has provided comprehensive testing and certification of performance quality, and a publicly recognized logo program for high-end consumer electronics products that consumers identify with superior quality.

Checkout the press release here...
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_30696.html

-------------------------------

Now time to wait for locally distributed manufacturers (inno3d, Palit, etc.) start creating a product using this hardware....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 10, 2006 at 11:25 AM
sir,
i was surfing the net and came across this case...
http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=RC-260&other_title=RC-260CM%20Media%20260
any thoughts on this? magkano kaya ito dito? the phil distributor is yet to respond to my email...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Apr 11, 2006 at 01:15 PM
I scoured the Cyberzone stores in SM City and found no mobo with 6150 chipset.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 11, 2006 at 02:09 PM
I scoured the Cyberzone stores in SM City and found no mobo with 6150 chipset.

Asus and Foxconn 6150 mobos are available here in the philippines by special order look for distros and give them a call ask where you can get one... normally stores wont stock them due to limited market...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 11, 2006 at 02:44 PM
Hi Ricky how's your build going?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Apr 11, 2006 at 06:28 PM
Asus and Foxconn 6150 mobos are available here in the philippines by special order look for distros and give them a call ask where you can get one... normally stores wont stock them due to limited market...

Hi JP. Wala ba equivalent yun in terms of HD processing sa Intel? Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 11, 2006 at 09:35 PM
Hi JP. Wala ba equivalent yun in terms of HD processing sa Intel? Thanks.

Pwede naman ang intel, wala lang ako masyadong alam sa intel ngayon, been with AMD for the past few years.... I think heat parin ang kalaban with intel chips.  Athlon64s runs cooler talaga compared to intels.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 11, 2006 at 11:00 PM
Hi Ricky how's your build going?

Sir Jpadua up to now undecided pa din po ako what to get  ;D , INTEL ba or ATHLON  ::) as for the rest medyo may idea na ako,yun na lang kung magkano final cost para matuloy na. Sir how much po ba yung Benq 1640,antec p180 and yung Scythe ninja na cpu cooler? :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Apr 12, 2006 at 05:38 AM
Pwede naman ang intel, wala lang ako masyadong alam sa intel ngayon, been with AMD for the past few years.... I think heat parin ang kalaban with intel chips.  Athlon64s runs cooler talaga compared to intels.

Hi again JP. Pero I checked speed of Athlons parang mas mababa compared to intel but more expensive. Btw Athlon din ako xp nga lang as of now.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ricky on Apr 12, 2006 at 09:54 AM
Hi again JP. Pero I checked speed of Athlons parang mas mababa compared to intel but more expensive. Btw Athlon din ako xp nga lang as of now.

Tama ka mang eddie, mas medyo mahal athlon at slower speeds pa compared to intel, consider ko lang din sabi ni sir jpadua na may heat issues yung intel :)
Sir jpadua i think you know my brother-in-law,si glenn na bassist ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 12, 2006 at 02:13 PM
Thats true... but the way the athlon is marketed is different.  Athlon64 are actually much faster than their intel counterparts.... for example a P4 3.2GHz is an equivalent of a Athlon64 3200+  in performance but the actual running speed of an athlon64 3200 is only 2.2GHz.  Intel needs more speed to run at the same performance level.  Thats also essentially why intel CPUs run hotter than Athlon64s.   Athlon64s also have cool and quiet, which actually lowers your temp when the PC is not in full load.. sometimes, the CPU gets so cool, the fan will automatically stop since its not needed and turn on again when cpu loads up again. 

Intels are good no doubt... but for HTPC / Media PCs I really prefer Athlon64s... for Workstations and Graphics editing, Video production intels are preferred because of raw power.  So if you are building an HTPC  A64s really fit the bill.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 12, 2006 at 02:14 PM
Tama ka mang eddie, mas medyo mahal athlon at slower speeds pa compared to intel, consider ko lang din sabi ni sir jpadua na may heat issues yung intel :)
Sir jpadua i think you know my brother-in-law,si glenn na bassist ;D

Ricky yah kilala ko si Glenn, kamusta na yun?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: beefjerky on Apr 12, 2006 at 03:22 PM
hi jpadua. do you have an x-plosion soundcard or know where do get one? thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 12, 2006 at 07:34 PM
hi jpadua. do you have an x-plosion soundcard or know where do get one? thanks!  :)

x-plosion wala x-mystique lang eh... locally wala ka mabibili na x-plosion.  The only difference is DTS connect versus DDlive.  Sound quality wise I think its relative kasi both DTS connect and DDlive are realtime stream encoders, they both do the same thing convert 5.1 PC audio into a digital format. The audio data still comes from the PC.  DTS and DD DVDs are still decoded the same way wether using the x-plosion or the x-mystique since the audio data is already encoded on the dvd and just passed through to your receiver.

Hope my explanation clarifies things a little :)

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Apr 12, 2006 at 08:22 PM
Thats true... but the way the athlon is marketed is different.  Athlon64 are actually much faster than their intel counterparts.... for example a P4 3.2GHz is an equivalent of a Athlon64 3200+  in performance but the actual running speed of an athlon64 3200 is only 2.2GHz.  Intel needs more speed to run at the same performance level.  Thats also essentially why intel CPUs run hotter than Athlon64s.   Athlon64s also have cool and quiet, which actually lowers your temp when the PC is not in full load.. sometimes, the CPU gets so cool, the fan will automatically stop since its not needed and turn on again when cpu loads up again. 

Intels are good no doubt... but for HTPC / Media PCs I really prefer Athlon64s... for Workstations and Graphics editing, Video production intels are preferred because of raw power.  So if you are building an HTPC  A64s really fit the bill.
I think I will need it for graphics and ht in a 50/50 basis. Makes it a little harder to decide huh?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 12, 2006 at 11:52 PM
I think I will need it for graphics and ht in a 50/50 basis. Makes it a little harder to decide huh?

aahhhh I see... hmmm A64 :D  no really you should have no problem with an A64.  You want power go for an A64 X2 3800+ Performs better than Pentium Dual core in reviews... search reviews nalang... A64s got my vote
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Apr 13, 2006 at 09:47 AM
aahhhh I see... hmmm A64 :D  no really you should have no problem with an A64.  You want power go for an A64 X2 3800+ Performs better than Pentium Dual core in reviews... search reviews nalang... A64s got my vote
I think that's way beyond my means, JP. I saw the price of 3200 at P9000. I don't know about the 3800. Could be well over 10k. Not in my league anymore. Thanks .
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 22, 2006 at 05:22 PM
G. CPU Cooler
   
Scythe Ninja is the best one coupled with a 120mm fan - most efficient and very very silent... 120mm fan on low is better than a Zalaman9600 on high.  I can get one also... have to check the price though and availability.
Thermaltake tornado 120 best budget HSF, just change the fan to a 120 panaflo

Hey Jay, I've already completed my HTPC. I just need to replace my Intel P4 3 GHz LGA775's default CPU cooler/fan with a quieter one. Where can I get the Scythe Ninja with 120mm fan and around how much is it?

Also, just curious, what's a good heat pipe cooler for video cards? Mine's an AGP MSI 256MB GeForce 6600 (NX6600).

Thanks! 8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 22, 2006 at 07:03 PM
Finally took some pics of my build....

All my hardware ready to be assembled (except for the DVDrw)
(http://www.m2systech.com/slimhtpc/parts.jpg)

Since the P4 connector couldnt reach the socket on my DFI rs482 I had to manually extend the cable.  Goodthing I have some soldering skills!
(http://www.m2systech.com/slimhtpc/extender.jpg)

All the hardware in place ready to start testing
(http://www.m2systech.com/slimhtpc/hardware.jpg)

By the way if you are using a sata drive you have to use an L-Type connector or else it wont fit.  Good thing I had one of these lying around.
(http://www.m2systech.com/slimhtpc/sata.jpg)

Stress Testing.
(http://www.m2systech.com/slimhtpc/testing.jpg)

Building it was quite fun although there were some things that were a bit tricky.  Getting the motherboard in place was one.  The I/O sheild I had to bend so that the board can get into place.  Also I had to bend the tail end of my TV card bracket to make it fit.  Had to use an L-Type sata cable.  The rest fairly easy.

Been running Prime95 for about 3 hours now. While downloading updates and playing a DVD. 

So far im maxing 55 deg.  on load.  Idle temps were jumping between 43-45. This is acceptable for me knowing our limitations on HSF size and Silence. I did notice that even on full load the fan doesnt still kick into full speed. 

Idle - Fan RPM 750
Load - Fan RPM 1500
When I cover the exhaust with my palm - Fan RPM 2300

I must say, the HSF is extremely quiet, my external DVD drive and Hard Disk was way louder.  At full load you can hear a faint whooshing sound.  PSU fan I never even noticed. I'll be fine at 1500rpm on idle if I can get it to work that way. I'm still trying to figure out how to set the fan to full speed on load (2300 rpm). If I can get the fan speed to these vaues, 1500RPM Idle and 2200RPM on Load, I think I may be able to get better results.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 22, 2006 at 07:28 PM
Hey Jay, I've already completed my HTPC. I just need to replace my Intel P4 3 GHz LGA775's default CPU cooler/fan with a quieter one. Where can I get the Scythe Ninja with 120mm fan and around how much is it?

Also, just curious, what's a good heat pipe cooler for video cards? Mine's an AGP MSI 256MB GeForce 6600 (NX6600).

Thanks! 8)

Look for waycool on tipid pc for a scythe ninja, way cool has also a lot of other great coolers from akasa.  You might want to take a look at the EVO 120 also by Akasa and a CNPS9500 by Zalman.  For a more budget option the Thermaltake Tornado with 120mm fan is a very good cooler, just replace the 120mm with a quiet fan, maybe a panaflo 120.  Silverstone 120mm would be the best for that kaso wala na akong stock hehehe.  For a video card, the new Zalman VF900 is what I'll go for. It's a heatpipe with fins all around the pipe.  Look for servo or tox on TipicPC for Zalman stuff . Dont know the prices now for the Scythe but the Zalman VF900 is I think P2,300
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Apr 23, 2006 at 03:37 AM
Jay, your HTPC's lookin' great... one more piece and you're good to go :)

Any feedback on Thermaltake's Big Typhoon? http://www.thermaltake.com/product/cooler/retail/cl-p0114/cl-p0114.asp

or Blue Orb II? http://www.thermaltake.com/product/cooler/retail/cl-p0257/cl-p0257.asp

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Apr 24, 2006 at 12:26 PM
Master jay,

How do you stress test your PCs? What applications do you use?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 24, 2006 at 06:34 PM
Master jay,

How do you stress test your PCs? What applications do you use?


I just use Prime95 Torture test  If you get to run the test for about 8hrs without errors then its good.  Best if you test if straight for 24hrs para sigurado.  Also while doing so, I monitor the temperature, fan speeds etc. using Speedfan.

Prime 95 stresses both CPU and Ram crunching numbers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 06, 2006 at 01:58 AM
Hi Tim,

hows your TVXB and Bladerunner working?  I think Ive gotten mine to work.  So far the schedules are accurate.  There are some errors in the schedule sometimes but when I cross check with clickthecity.com it carries the same schedule errors so I'm guessing TVXB and Bladerunner are working ok.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 07, 2006 at 12:25 PM
Hi which is better graphic card for low end HTPC. Nvidia 6200 or ATI Radeon 9550?
Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 07, 2006 at 12:57 PM
Hi which is better graphic card for low end HTPC. Nvidia 6200 or ATI Radeon 9550?
Thanks

I suggest going for the latest video card offerings.  Either a nVidia 7300 GS (P4000) or an Ati x1300 Pro (P6,400) They both have native support to drive HDTV displays offering 720p or 1080i via component.  The 7300 is already a series 7 geforce card that supports the latest purevideo technologies like h.264 acceleration.  The X1300 pro already the x1000 series which supports ATI AVIVO and the AVIVO encoder (AVIVO is ATI's answer to nVidia's Purevideo). 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 08, 2006 at 10:48 AM
I suggest going for the latest video card offerings.  Either a nVidia 7300 GS (P4000) or an Ati x1300 Pro (P6,400) They both have native support to drive HDTV displays offering 720p or 1080i via component.  The 7300 is already a series 7 geforce card that supports the latest purevideo technologies like h.264 acceleration.  The X1300 pro already the x1000 series which supports ATI AVIVO and the AVIVO encoder (AVIVO is ATI's answer to nVidia's Purevideo). 


I wish I have the luxury. The thing is these cards comes only in PCI-E. I only have AGP, heheheh. Right know, I can afford a low-end video card only, hahahah
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on May 09, 2006 at 12:32 AM
Actually those cards have AGP versions too :-) If you're on a budget, passive-cooled (no fans, just heat sinks) video cards will work well for HTPC use like the GeForce MX 4000 (priced under PHP 2,500). In fact, there's an emerging trend of high end video cards that use heat pipes/heat sinks and no fans, ideal for HTPC applications. Gigabyte, EVGA, ASUS, etc. already came out with similarly featured models.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: timMCE on May 12, 2006 at 03:05 AM
hi jay, same here tvxb/bladerunner working but schedule is a little off.  about that quicktime thing same here also wont work with MCE front end but works with WMP classic and 10 havent really had the time to work on it. but here are a few sites that I think can help
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-50736.html

http://www.msfn.org/board/lofiversion/index.php/t51043.html

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=34838&hl=

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=56803

http://www.degeelebosch.nl/corone/




I'll continue to look up more info on  this
let me know how it turns out man ..... and back up your reg

what do you think about WMV HD content? have you tried the DVD?




Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: timMCE on May 12, 2006 at 03:55 AM
did I hear (see pala 8)) the magic words "budget" and "low end"?  guess what guys,  I got a celeron box (2.13GHz) with a FX5200(128MB AGP) with 1GB DDR266 (2 x 512MB in dual channel mode), a SATA 80GB and an old 40, 20 and 30GB hdd's Windows Media center 2005 and a microsoft remote control, using a pc case thats 5 years old with an upgraded 500watt power supply  connected to a CRT TV via lowly S-video cable( hey it could've been worse...may RCA pa ha).  The d@mn thing works fine, channel surfing is quick and recording is great, divx playback is smooth and surprisingly clear.  its an ultra low end HTPC. its just a divx box anyway, i dont really record tv shows. kawawang hapas lupa with his super tipid setup
 
I say use what you have,  get the the feel of it, then go out and improve on it.

the trick is finding the balance between your wallet and performance.

experience will tell you kung saan ka pwede mag tipid at kung saan hindi

....and also having a friend who owns a pc hardware store helps a lot  ;D




words of wisdom : never skimp on bandwidth
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 17, 2006 at 11:58 PM
I suggest going for the latest video card offerings.  Either a nVidia 7300 GS (P4000) or an Ati x1300 Pro (P6,400) They both have native support to drive HDTV displays offering 720p or 1080i via component.  The 7300 is already a series 7 geforce card that supports the latest purevideo technologies like h.264 acceleration.  The X1300 pro already the x1000 series which supports ATI AVIVO and the AVIVO encoder (AVIVO is ATI's answer to nVidia's Purevideo). 

Hello JP. I was at SM Cyberzone this afternoon and I saw that x1300 and x700. Guess what? The x1300 was P3900 and the x700 was priced at P6400! I asked them to check but they said it was correct. You may want to check them at PC Quarters.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 18, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Hello JP. I was at SM Cyberzone this afternoon and I saw that x1300 and x700. Guess what? The x1300 was P3900 and the x700 was priced at P6400! I asked them to check but they said it was correct. You may want to check them at PC Quarters.

Low end ng X1300 (128MB) series as low as Php 3,800.00 sa pcx. While yung X700EZ (256MB) is Php 4600.

By the way, which is better? X1300 or X700?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on May 18, 2006 at 10:48 AM
I am informed that if you're a game hog, and with those video intensive games like Doom 3, the more exotic the video card the better(read: more expensive).   Those with 128bit 256mb ram video cards with their own cooling fans are said to be better at it.   Otherwise, even for DVD watching,  the mobo's built-in video can do the job. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 18, 2006 at 11:18 AM
I am informed that if you're a game hog, and with those video intensive games like Doom 3, the more exotic the video card the better(read: more expensive).   Those with 128bit 256mb ram video cards with their own cooling fans are said to be better at it.   Otherwise, even for DVD watching,  the mobo's built-in video can do the job. 

I agree with this av_phile1, however there are certain excemptions.

Generally kasi ang bagong release na video card mas mura compared dun sa old, and the newer release (in terms of chipset quality) much better.

Say for example Nvidia 7300 series and 6200series. Latest ang chipset and better specs ang 7300 series pero almost the same (and yung sa ibang series mas mura pa ang 7300) ang price range nila.



Based of comparison sa net, almost the same ang specs ng x700 and x1300. But mas mura ang X1300 compared sa X700, so its practical to buy the X1300.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on May 18, 2006 at 12:30 PM
I guess you're right, Philander.  The newer models can be cheaper but more powerful, thanks to advancement in technologies. 

There was a time early this year that I was thinking of getting a new PC.   The video cards I saw from ATI and GEForce have models that generally get more expensive the more powerful  they are in terms of specs.   Not to mention the choice of either using an 8x AGP or 16x PCI Express, depending on on the mobo used.  And there are mobos that can do both.  There's a good chance a cheaper PCI express video card  may perform better than a more expensive AGP card.   Having no means to determine which is better in actual tests, most of the time, the consumer is plainly guided by the specs he reads and the price.  And it is so easy for the layman to assume the more expensive, the more powerful, which is often the case with computers parts in a given generation.  But as always,newer generation parts can beat their predescessors and still cost the same or even lower.  It does pay to do some research before buying.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 18, 2006 at 03:10 PM
Low end ng X1300 (128MB) series as low as Php 3,800.00 sa pcx. While yung X700EZ (256MB) is Php 4600.

By the way, which is better? X1300 or X700?

The X1300 Pro is more expensive than the regular X1300.  The pro comes with native HDTV output while the X1300 (non-pro) does not.  Also the pro has more memory (256) as the non-pro which only has 128mb.

If you are planning to connect to your HDTV directly via VGA or DVI or even DVI -> HDMI cable then you dont really need the HDTV encoder. If you plan to do a little gaming then the 256mb version will help a lot especially now lots of games use a lot of texture memory.

The X1300 would probably be sufficient for DVD and watching HD clips expecially since its already capable of AVIVO.  I say forget about the X700 na... go with either an X1300 or X1300 Pro :)  if you really plan to game also I suggest a x1600

I recently purchased an Nvidia Geforce 7300 made by Palit for another HTPC im building.  Got it for only 3,700 it comes native with HDTV encoder, supports Purevideo hardware acceleration for WMV-HD and H.264! (h.264 is the new current standard for HD video which will be used for Blueray and HD-DVD. Performance is a bit less or at par with the 6600. Comes already with 256MB ram.  In my opinion this might be the best cost-performace card. 

Specs at a glance

Geforce 7 product line (supports more hardware accelerated features of Purevideo for HD material)
Built in HDTV encoder (Ive tried this myself its pretty good can do 720p or 1080i with out a problem through component output)
Comes with 256MB Ram
The stock cooler is not as noisy as I was expecting.
Good for moderate gaming.
Price 3,700!

I suggest giving a look at the Nvidia7300 by palit.  Its a really good budget card.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 18, 2006 at 03:37 PM
Thanks Master jpadua,

If I can only find 7300 in AGP...



By the way, a little bit OT, I think my TV can only do 1080i and 480p. Is there a way (even by hardware modification) that it will support 720p?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 18, 2006 at 07:27 PM
Thanks Master jpadua,

If I can only find 7300 in AGP...



By the way, a little bit OT, I think my TV can only do 1080i and 480p. Is there a way (even by hardware modification) that it will support 720p?

Thanks.

unfortunately your TV can handle a straight 720p connection.  You can play files on your PC that are in 720P, but your actual resolution should be either in 480p or 1080i and the video will be scaled to that resolution.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 18, 2006 at 07:49 PM
unfortunately your TV can handle a straight 720p connection.  You can play files on your PC that are in 720P, but your actual resolution should be either in 480p or 1080i and the video will be scaled to that resolution.

Thanks.

Question again.

What if my HDTV, has only HD-component input and since Graphics cards has DVI or VGA output, how can I then connect my PC to my TV? I have Nvidia 6200 vc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 18, 2006 at 07:55 PM
Thanks.

Question again.

What if my HDTV, has only HD-component input and since Graphics cards has DVI or VGA output, how can I then connect my PC to my TV?

You need a card that has native HDTV output via component.  The x1300pro and the Palit 7300 has this.  Problema mo lang talaga is that its PCIE. During the time of AGP kasi di pa uso masyado ang HDTV. 

are you not considering upgrading to PCI-e?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 18, 2006 at 08:09 PM
You need a card that has native HDTV output via component.  The x1300pro and the Palit 7300 has this.  Problema mo lang talaga is that its PCIE. During the time of AGP kasi di pa uso masyado ang HDTV. 

are you not considering upgrading to PCI-e?

So the x1300pro and the Palit 7300 may build in-component out connection sila?

I can't upgrade yet to PCI-E, kasi, mauupgrade lahat, I only have socket A processor...  HD and optical drives lang ang matitira, I'm using XPC so pati casing, etc...


By the way, my HDTV has VGA input, it can output native 480p and 1080i resolutions without any problems.
I'm just asking kasi, based sa mga forums, my TV supports (Philips 34PT8420) 720p, but I can't seem to enable it.

So baka through component lang sya magwowork.

I'm using my TV as my main monitor, pag 480p (640 x 480) ang lalaki ng icons at di mo mairun yung ibang applications. While 1080i, since interlaced, ang sakit sa mata lalo na sa text, its only good for video (overlay) viewing and some games....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 18, 2006 at 09:07 PM
So the x1300pro and the Palit 7300 may build in-component out connection sila?

I can't upgrade yet to PCI-E, kasi, mauupgrade lahat, I only have socket A processor...  HD and optical drives lang ang matitira, I'm using XPC so pati casing, etc...


By the way, my HDTV has VGA input, it can output native 480p and 1080i resolutions without any problems.
I'm just asking kasi, based sa mga forums, my TV supports (Philips 34PT8420) 720p, but I can't seem to enable it.

So baka through component lang sya magwowork.

I'm using my TV as my main monitor, pag 480p (640 x 480) ang lalaki ng icons at di mo mairun yung ibang applications. While 1080i, since interlaced, ang sakit sa mata lalo na sa text, its only good for video (overlay) viewing and some games....

are you sure? kaya ng 720p?  I also have a philips pero pixel plus and di talaga pwede mag 720p yun only 480p and 1080i

720p kasi mataas na res yun for this type of TV.  kaya kasi mag PAL progressive 575P and NTSC 480P  and 1080i signal is = 540P which is between 480p and 576p thats why kaya nya mag 1080i.  720p medyo malayo na from the 576p@50hz.

I was able to squeez a little more resolution with mine doing 800x600p @50hz  since 576p is not to far from 600p per 50Hz na yun... I doubt kaya nya beyond that.

Here's what you CAN do.

The highest resolution you can get for your TV is 720x540P  still a small rez but at least much better than 640x480. Native DVD resolution is 720x480, but since your TV can do 1080i that means it can also do 540P. So the highest you can go is really 540p  if you want a widescreen resolution Ive also succesfully done 960x540 for 16:9, since your TV is 4:3 mag mumukhang streched vertically yung destop, but then you have more screen space.

You will need powerstrip to create a custome resolution like 720x540p or 960x540p.  What I do is that I select a pre setup resolution using powerstrip meron dun under custom resolution 960x540.  I load it up to get the correct horizontal and vertical frequencies, then using powerstrip I manually change 960 to 720 and set the aspect ratio to 4:3.  Save and test.  Once you get a signal then you can use it na every time you boot into windows.

Jay



 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on May 19, 2006 at 10:10 AM
are you sure? kaya ng 720p?  I also have a philips pero pixel plus and di talaga pwede mag 720p yun only 480p and 1080i

720p kasi mataas na res yun for this type of TV.  kaya kasi mag PAL progressive 575P and NTSC 480P  and 1080i signal is = 540P which is between 480p and 576p thats why kaya nya mag 1080i.  720p medyo malayo na from the 576p@50hz.

 

Thanks again Jay,

Reading from this forum, supposedly my TV supports 720p (I have the 8420 model): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=587988&page=3&pp=30

Yung Nvidia driver may feature to create custom resolution right? May difference ba ito sa PowerStrip? Nag expire na kasi yung PowerStrip trial version ko, I can't seem to get "working" version... hehehhehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on May 24, 2006 at 05:22 AM
Hi guys. I don't know what's wrong but maybe some of you might have an idea. I changed my pc into another one with Nvidia 6500 video card. I noticed now my pictures from the web come out pixelized or something. No matter what settings I make from the video card setup, it remains the same. Hope you can give me any other idea what to do.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on May 29, 2006 at 10:10 AM
I just put together a starter HTPC last weekend with:
Shuttle XPC SB77G5
P4 2.8 GHz
512 MB RAM
80 GB Seagate Sata
LG Combo drive
PowerColor Radeon 9550 256MB
Logitech cordless keyboard and mouse

Am using Zoom Player, and Microsoft Media Player 11.
The audio out (using coax SPDIF) from the built-in video cards goes to a Denon AVR and am using the VGA out from the video card to a Samsung 32" LCD.

So far, the PQ is a lot better from the HTPC than my Pioneer 655A DVD player. Sound is as good from the HTPC compared to my Pioneer.

Next weekend, I will test using my Infocus projectors.

Any suggestion for a decent remote control?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 30, 2006 at 03:58 AM
I just put together a starter HTPC last weekend with:
Shuttle XPC SB77G5
P4 2.8 GHz
512 MB RAM
80 GB Seagate Sata
LG Combo drive
PowerColor Radeon 9550 256MB
Logitech cordless keyboard and mouse

Am using Zoom Player, and Microsoft Media Player 11.
The audio out (using coax SPDIF) from the built-in video cards goes to a Denon AVR and am using the VGA out from the video card to a Samsung 32" LCD.

So far, the PQ is a lot better from the HTPC than my Pioneer 655A DVD player. Sound is as good from the HTPC compared to my Pioneer.

Next weekend, I will test using my Infocus projectors.

Any suggestion for a decent remote control?

Hi Alexg congratulations on your HTPC.  Problem is there is no available remotes here in the philippines, if you plan to get a TV Tuner, the sapphire theatrix TV tuner comes with a Cyberlink remote control.  Its very good actually, problem is its not programmable but it is compatible with MCE by default.  If you know all the shortcuts you can change the remote control options of zoomplayer to use the shortcuts of MCE so that the remote will work with it.  In other words you will have to reprogram keyboard shorcuts of zp to accomodate the remote.

If you can have this bought in the states, The imon remote is pretty good, you can program it to any software that supports keyboard shortcuts. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on May 30, 2006 at 07:07 AM
I saw a PC remote at Projector World in SM City a month ago for HTPCs.  They give this as a freebie when you buy a projector from them.  You might want to ask from them if it is still available.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on May 30, 2006 at 07:51 AM
Hi Alexg congratulations on your HTPC.  Problem is there is no available remotes here in the philippines, if you plan to get a TV Tuner, the sapphire theatrix TV tuner comes with a Cyberlink remote control.  Its very good actually, problem is its not programmable but it is compatible with MCE by default.  If you know all the shortcuts you can change the remote control options of zoomplayer to use the shortcuts of MCE so that the remote will work with it.  In other words you will have to reprogram keyboard shorcuts of zp to accomodate the remote.

If you can have this bought in the states, The imon remote is pretty good, you can program it to any software that supports keyboard shortcuts. 

Thanks, I will be getting a DVB-S card instead of a TV tuner, we do not have cable at our Village (am currently using DreamTV).

I was playing with my setup last night, installed ffdshow, avisynth. Am getting stutters and 100% CPU usage on some resizing filters. I canot make the ffdshow with SSE2 to work, any ideas how? Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on May 31, 2006 at 08:07 AM
I was experimenting with ffdshow and some denoiser, resizing and sharpening filters from the other forum I am member of (AVS) and the results are fantastic on my LCD, better than the upscaling DVD player that my brother-in-law have me tried!

I will post pix soon!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on May 31, 2006 at 02:41 PM
I was experimenting with ffdshow and some denoiser, resizing and sharpening filters from the other forum I am member of (AVS) and the results are fantastic on my LCD, better than the upscaling DVD player that my brother-in-law have me tried!

I will post pix soon!

Yup thats true! you are actually post processing the DVD not just upscaling.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jun 01, 2006 at 03:49 PM
Hi Jay (jpadua),

Lapit na ako magpatulong sa iyo, my stuff is all here, very busy lang entertaining.   Next week, let's start building my HTPC.

Thanks in advance.


voj
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Jun 02, 2006 at 05:28 PM
Hello,
    Just want to ask if its worth using the vga out of my video card to the bnc rgbh/v input in my sony HDTV ready tv?Its the same as vga 15 pin in I think.
Im currently using the 6600gt component cable adapter and the picture quality is already better than our stand alone pioneer after setting output to 1080i.
Its already a as sharp if not sharper (using image sharpening)and has less blocky artifacts in dark scenes.
This is with low tech powerdvd and not theatertek or zoomplayer that you guys use.
Just asking if direct vga in would produce better quality and avoid overscsan issues compared to the component adapter.Im curently out of town and can get a vga to 5 bnc brakeout cable in the area, just wondering if its worth searching for.
Thanks in Advance
Gubs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 03, 2006 at 07:17 AM
Hi! Actually yes VGA is RGB.  Using component output is a step up from s-vid, but there is still some encoding going on in the video card to 720p or 1080i.  If you use VGA there is no encoding.  The resolution that you are currently using will be sent to directly your display.  To get 720p set your resolution to 1280x720 to get 1080i set your resolution to 1920x1080 (make sure you select interlaced in the advanced options).

Its worth it, so go ahead and get a VGA to BNC :) There are only 5 signals in a VGA cable, Red, Green, Blue, Horizontal and Vertical sync, = RGBHV
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Jun 03, 2006 at 09:55 AM
Thanks for the quick reply,
Now I have to look for the cable around here in the Singapore computer shops or maybe Audio video stores.
Thanks again.
Gubs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 03, 2006 at 01:08 PM
Thanks for the quick reply,
Now I have to look for the cable around here in the Singapore computer shops or maybe Audio video stores.
Thanks again.
Gubs


is BNC your only option, doesnt your display have VGA input ir DVI?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Jun 03, 2006 at 04:30 PM
Wala e its a KV-hr34m61 a 2003 model still sold in the Sony.com,ph site got it at a very good price at the Abenson walthermart sale.
only has hiscan components and this rgbhv 5 bnc input.
Anyway ok narin kung vga input na analog I dont think theres much difference with dvi at this size of screen.Sana nga normal vga in na lang kesa tong professional grade video 5bnc input.
Ty
Gubs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 05, 2006 at 02:17 AM
Wala e its a KV-hr34m61 a 2003 model still sold in the Sony.com,ph site got it at a very good price at the Abenson walthermart sale.
only has hiscan components and this rgbhv 5 bnc input.
Anyway ok narin kung vga input na analog I dont think theres much difference with dvi at this size of screen.Sana nga normal vga in na lang kesa tong professional grade video 5bnc input.
Ty
Gubs

maganda yan, you'll see a big difference
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Jun 07, 2006 at 10:55 AM
Tried the bnc cable with rca adapters. ganda nga for 1024 x 768reg computer res.Pero when i feed it 1080i theres two much flicker,much more than the component dongle.Is there anyway to avoid this.Some forums I read said raising refresh from 24 to 30 will help but it does not want to go past 25 in the advanced timings panel.
Is there anyway or I have to mess with powerstrip to make custom refresh and resolutions.Anyway after using my sisterinlaws bravia 40 inch with mac mini attached it seems the lcd is better  for displaying the desktop with sharp text etc flicker free.though the movies did not look too good.
This sony seems kinda blured for text etc. but good for pictures and movies.
Any suggestion would help.Ty
Gubs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 07, 2006 at 11:22 AM
I just put together a starter HTPC last weekend with:
Shuttle XPC SB77G5
P4 2.8 GHz
512 MB RAM
80 GB Seagate Sata
LG Combo drive
PowerColor Radeon 9550 256MB
Logitech cordless keyboard and mouse

Am using Zoom Player, and Microsoft Media Player 11.
The audio out (using coax SPDIF) from the built-in video cards goes to a Denon AVR and am using the VGA out from the video card to a Samsung 32" LCD.

So far, the PQ is a lot better from the HTPC than my Pioneer 655A DVD player. Sound is as good from the HTPC compared to my Pioneer.

Next weekend, I will test using my Infocus projectors.

Any suggestion for a decent remote control?

I just upgraded my processor to a 3.2GHz P4 and installed a TwinHan DVB-S card, and the XPC is not very happy about this, the cooling fan is always at maximum RPM and it is very noisy.

So I would need to get a new motherboard and use a spare Lian Li case that I have (tower case).

I can retain my old P4 3.2 or get an Athlon64 processor, in either case, I would need to get a new motherboard with SLI. Which one should be better the Intel or the AMD for Zoom Player, ffdshow and avisynth?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Jun 07, 2006 at 11:23 AM
Ok na pala. refresh rate overide to 30 reduced flicker ty.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 07, 2006 at 02:27 PM
I just upgraded my processor to a 3.2GHz P4 and installed a TwinHan DVB-S card, and the XPC is not very happy about this, the cooling fan is always at maximum RPM and it is very noisy.

So I would need to get a new motherboard and use a spare Lian Li case that I have (tower case).

I can retain my old P4 3.2 or get an Athlon64 processor, in either case, I would need to get a new motherboard with SLI. Which one should be better the Intel or the AMD for Zoom Player, ffdshow and avisynth?

Thanks.

Ive had numerous successes with Athlon64s with both heat and silence.  and Athlon64 3200 venice core is a good starting point, I use AMDs cool and quiet also.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 07, 2006 at 02:33 PM
Ive had numerous successes with Athlon64s with both heat and silence.  and Athlon64 3200 venice core is a good starting point, I use AMDs cool and quiet also.

How about running Zoom Player with ffdshow, avisynth and other filters, including resizing and noise reduction?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 09, 2006 at 08:44 AM
Ive had numerous successes with Athlon64s with both heat and silence.  and Athlon64 3200 venice core is a good starting point, I use AMDs cool and quiet also.

I just put my Shuttle for sale on the Member's Exchange section (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=53224.msg587769#msg587769), I will be going ahead and gettign the MSI mobo with SLI and a new Radeon 6600GT graphics card in SLI config. I will be retaining my P4.

Based on other forum, the Athlon 64 is quite hard to configure using zoom player, ffdshow and avisynth, they have more success on P4, beside, I was able to configure zoom player, ffdshow and avisynth including trimension on my shuttle, I should be able to do it again on my new setup.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 09, 2006 at 12:53 PM
I just put my Shuttle for sale on the Member's Exchange section (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=53224.msg587769#msg587769), I will be going ahead and gettign the MSI mobo with SLI and a new Radeon 6600GT graphics card in SLI config. I will be retaining my P4.

Based on other forum, the Athlon 64 is quite hard to configure using zoom player, ffdshow and avisynth, they have more success on P4, beside, I was able to configure zoom player, ffdshow and avisynth including trimension on my shuttle, I should be able to do it again on my new setup.

Thanks!

Hi Alexg,

you might be able to sell faster and to a targeted audience sa tipidpc.com, thats where I sell my computer related stuff.  Just a tip! :)

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jun 14, 2006 at 09:24 AM
Hello HTPC gurus,

I'm down to the last two component in my acquisition phase to build my HTPC.

- Athlon 64 3200+
- motherboard ?

or

- Intel D 903 dual core
- Intel D945GNTL motherboard


The boards would probably cost the same but the intel dual core is P4500 more expensive than the Athlon.

Can you please give me some advice.

Athlon 64 is highly recommended by jpadua but the dual core is the next thing in PC, should I make the jump or is the performance just about the same. I've gone overboard over some of the my purchases so the price difference, at this point, is a non-issue.

Thanks in advance.


voj
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 14, 2006 at 10:23 AM
I have built a couple of HTPC's in three weeks, the first attempt was a 2.8 P4 no HyperThreading on a Shuttle XPC case, with PowerColor 9550 and 512MB RAM. Running zoom player, ffdshow with avisynth filters produced a lot of stuttering so I have to reduce the settings. So this config is not quite good.

After two weeks, I bought an MSI P4N SLI-FI with a 3.2GHz P4 with HT, 1GB dual channel DDR2 RAM, Nvidea 6600 GT (for now only single card, but soon would be on SLI), 550 watt Enermax PSU on a spare Lian Li case I have lying around. Performance is great but the NOISE is very annoying (P4's and the Nvidea 6600GT generates so much heat I need to use a total of 6 fans on the case including the PSU fan!)

I have a 64bit AMD Athlon at work and it runs very, very cold compared to my P4.

If have to build another PC for HTPC, I would surely go for an AMD X2 (which would be my project soon!) Of course, an X2 is prohibitively expensive. I think the Athlon 64 3200+ should do the job. If you will be  using zoom player, ffdshow and avisynth, just keep your filters, denoising, sharpening and resizing moderate.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jun 14, 2006 at 11:54 AM
Im into upgrade nrin ng HTPC. I have purchased VENICE A64 3000+.
Im planning to use MSI K8N4 n diamond series board okey ba combination?
Or any board recommendation?
Thanks

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 14, 2006 at 01:27 PM
Im into upgrade nrin ng HTPC. I have purchased VENICE A64 3000+.
Im planning to use MSI K8N4 n diamond series board okey ba combination?
Or any board recommendation?
Thanks

I always liked the MSI boards, experienced less problems with them than with the other brands. I always specify MSI for our company's purchases too!

You cannot go wrong with your combination.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jun 14, 2006 at 01:53 PM
Im into upgrade nrin ng HTPC. I have purchased VENICE A64 3000+.
Im planning to use MSI K8N4 n diamond series board okey ba combination?
Or any board recommendation?
Thanks




magkano yung ganitong msi board?

what about those asus boards that can handle 64 /64fx 64x2, parang maganda yung possiblity of stretching the life of the board starting from a single core then upgrading later to dual core? prohibitive ba cost?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jun 14, 2006 at 10:03 PM
@alexg,
Thank you very much for the reply.. Actually subok ko na MSI board sa PC kaya lang di ko lang alam performance nya sa athlon lalo na sa A64. One of my PC using MSi board & its been 3 years na wala parin problema working great parin till now..

@rentacolor,
The board price is around 12k sa philippine market. I am considering DFI lanparty nga kaya lang inde ko alam kung meron distro dito baka problem ko kung magpawarranty ako ;-( . Asus is okey pero I think yung mga Intel chipset nila ang highly rated palagi. Medyo naguguluhan pa nga ako. tsk. tsk. tsk. Hirap talaga upgrade itch... hehehe.
Masakit sa ulo at bulsa.. hehehe

Try ko muna hanap ng medyo okey na review na board. hay!!! naku..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jun 15, 2006 at 11:46 AM
it seems that most of you go for the Athlons.

Q.: Asus and DFI (the RS482), if I read the specs correctly can handle both the Athlon 64 or the Athlon 64X2, did I read the specs correctly?  That means I can use the Athlon 64 3200 now (which fits my needs) and later on upgrade to an Athlon 64X2 when the price drops considerably without changing mobo?

Q.: Do you know who sells these boards? If it is tipidpc, please supply username of seller.


Hard disc question:

Q.: Is it advisable to get a separate smaller HD for boot/programs? Or should I just partition the 250GB hD that I have with a small one for programs and the rest for storage.  Should I waste precious real estate on my case for this?  My PC case can handle 4 HDs aside from the usual optical drives.


Thanks.


voj
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jun 16, 2006 at 01:50 AM
it seems that most of you go for the Athlons.

Q.: Asus and DFI (the RS482), if I read the specs correctly can handle both the Athlon 64 or the Athlon 64X2, did I read the specs correctly?  That means I can use the Athlon 64 3200 now (which fits my needs) and later on upgrade to an Athlon 64X2 when the price drops considerably without changing mobo?

Q.: Do you know who sells these boards? If it is tipidpc, please supply username of seller.


Hard disc question:

Q.: Is it advisable to get a separate smaller HD for boot/programs? Or should I just partition the 250GB hD that I have with a small one for programs and the rest for storage.  Should I waste precious real estate on my case for this?  My PC case can handle 4 HDs aside from the usual optical drives.


Thanks.


voj

Voj,

Try to PM waycool of tpc I think he sell DFI board. Or try to ask jpadua if he has DFI board for sale.
And about HDD i think it is safe to put small HDD as boot drive & just reserve your 250g HDD as back up disk for your important file. Me I use 40gig IDE HDD for boot drive & 160g SATA HDD for file back up only.  ;)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 16, 2006 at 02:34 AM
it seems that most of you go for the Athlons.

Q.: Asus and DFI (the RS482), if I read the specs correctly can handle both the Athlon 64 or the Athlon 64X2, did I read the specs correctly?  That means I can use the Athlon 64 3200 now (which fits my needs) and later on upgrade to an Athlon 64X2 when the price drops considerably without changing mobo?

Q.: Do you know who sells these boards? If it is tipidpc, please supply username of seller.


Hard disc question:

Q.: Is it advisable to get a separate smaller HD for boot/programs? Or should I just partition the 250GB hD that I have with a small one for programs and the rest for storage.  Should I waste precious real estate on my case for this?  My PC case can handle 4 HDs aside from the usual optical drives.


Thanks.


voj

Hi Voj,

Sorry di pa tayo nagkikita! been very busy lately, had a ton of projects to finish.  Anyways yes the RS482 Infinity can handle an FX51-55 and X2, so you can definately upgrade when the time comes.  The RS482 can be had for 5,500 through waycool in Tipidpc although you have to order it, I think he's waiting until the pre orders reach a certain number before DFI will supply him.

yes a smaller drive like an 80GB would be great for the OS and applications and a storage drive 250GB.  Perfomance wise, windows always uses a swap file for memory, if you have 2 drives, the swap drive is free for windows to write on.  Place the swap drive on the bigger hard disk.
Seagates are good becuase of the 5yr warranty, but Samsung spinpoint drves run cooler and are much quieter, still the preffered drive of SilentPC review.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jun 16, 2006 at 07:00 AM
Thanks meridian & jay.

It seems I have time after all.  I read that the dual core of Athlon will have a deep price cut by end of July.  So I will have to be more patient and just wait for it to happen, it's only a month away.

Anyway, RS482 seems to be cost effective.  If I add a little more and say go for an SLI board like Asus A8N-SLI or DFI nF4 SLI-DR, what are the things I will get and do I really need them.

One of the things I do now that is so painstakingly slow is recompressing some of my downloads through a small freeware AVI Recomp.  Why do I have to do this?  Usually a whole season of 1 hour episodes TV series can fit in 2 DVDrs, lately there are some TV series who squeezed in a one or more episodes in a season which will now exceed the 2 DVDRs!  And I hate wasting spaces on these blanks.  I end up recompressing a lot of episodes (effect of the decompression will be minimal if I spread the reduction on as many files instead of just recompressing one) so that it will fit all in 2 DVDrs.  Degradation is minimal even at 20% decompression, I even tried projecting it through my Infocus and it is hardly noticeable.  Do you think there will be a marked improvement on time.  It takes about 2 hours to recompress 1 hour episode.  Luckily, I don't have to be awake when my PC does this by batches.

TIA

voj
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: stipen22 on Jun 19, 2006 at 01:54 PM
Hello to you all guys here...!

I'm quite new in this forum and all I can say about all your set-up is that.............. "ANG WUFET!!"  ;D

Im a certified HTPC fanatic but without the money to spend though hehehe!


BTW here’s my starter HTPC setup I know my setup is not much of a screamer but hey I still enjoy watching DVD movies with this rig:

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (Thorton)
DFI NF2 Ultra-AL (nForce2)
512MB DDR400 PQI (Dual Channel config)
256MB FX5500 128bit Inno3D video card (VGA, DVI, Video Out)
80Gig PATA 7200rpm hard drive (40Gig x 2)
ASUS Combo Drive
Philips Sound Edge 24-bit 5.1 sound card
Logitech Z5300 THX certified 5.1 speaker (280watts RMS)
17” LG Flatscreen CRT monitor

Pic’s to follow once my friend lend me he’s digicam   ;)

TPC member too....





 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jun 19, 2006 at 04:14 PM
Guys, please help.

These three DFI boards are available through a tipidpc seller:

- DFI ATI RS482 Infinity                    - P  5500.00
- DFI LAN Party UT nF4 Ultra-D        - P  8200.00
- DFI LAN Party UT SLI-DR Expert    - P12500.00

Aside from the obvious price difference, what are some of the things I will miss or gain if I go for one board or the other.  I plan to get the dual core Athlon microprocessor next month when the price goes down.

To be used primarily for HTPC - downloading, burning, watching DVDs, reprocessing video downloads. Maybe later for adobe photoshop postproduction.

Thanks in advance.



voj
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: stipen22 on Jun 19, 2006 at 06:17 PM
IMHO i'd go for the DFI ATI RS482 Infinity with it's DV I-D, TV-out, HDTV (Y/Pb/Pr component) video output I say it's totally design for HTPC setup. Another thing I notice with this mobo is its form factor (microATX) you won't have much problem installing to a small HTPC casing. The downside I foresee its lack of expansion slot which is common for microATX board's. If your still waiting for the price to drop for the video card you yearn for or in a budget setting up a HTPC but wan't it working and running ASAP this board is a good choice.

(http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/rsinfinityb.jpg)

Just my two cent.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 20, 2006 at 02:10 AM
The board works well I should say :) I have one and its perfect for a budget setup, you dont need to buy a video card and a soundcard.  It has firewire too, spdif digital output and all the connectivity you need DVI VGA and Component, even S-vid if you plan to use it on a TV.  I say budget  albeit the board being a bit on the pricy side (5,500) you save on a lot of other things.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 20, 2006 at 08:29 AM
Just got my DVI to HDMI cable, but I cannot go past 1280x720 on my 32" Samsung LCD using Power Strip. The native resolution of the LCD is 1366X768 (which I can get over the VGA connection). Any ideas?

Finally, my current HTPC

MSI P4N SLI-FI motherboard
Intel P4 3.0 GHz (the 3.2GHz have some issues with the MSI motherboard) cooled with ThermalTake Big Typhoon
MSI NX6600GT 256MB PCI-E graphics card
LG DVD combo drive
200 GB SATA drive
80 GB SATA drive
Samsung CD Drive
Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard
Twin Han DVB-S PCI card (for my DreamTV)...
Lian Li PC case
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jun 21, 2006 at 08:41 AM
IMHO i'd go for the DFI ATI RS482 Infinity with it's DV I-D, TV-out, HDTV (Y/Pb/Pr component) video output I say it's totally design for HTPC setup. Another thing I notice with this mobo is its form factor (microATX) you won't have much problem installing to a small HTPC casing. The downside I foresee its lack of expansion slot which is common for microATX board's. If your still waiting for the price to drop for the video card you yearn for or in a budget setting up a HTPC but wan't it working and running ASAP this board is a good choice.

(http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/rsinfinityb.jpg)

Just my two cent.  :)

RS482 question

- i already have a sound card (xmystique), TV tuner card (hauppauge 250) and plan to install wifi and a PCI-e graphics card (maybe ATI X1300 with HDMI support), hindi ba maubusan ng slot dito sa RS482.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 21, 2006 at 02:29 PM
Di Naman siguro, you can save PCI slots by using USB like a USB wifi adaptor.  You have a PCI express slot for the video card. I dont really know what else you might need more PCI slots for.

You have 4 PCI slots and 1 PCIe slot

1. PCI - Xmystique
2. PCI - PVR500 dual Tuner
3. PCIe 16x - Future video card upgrade
4. PCIe 1x - no peripherals for this yet

I have a full ATX board and im only using 1 slot for the Xmystique, 1 slot for my Tuner and one for a Video card.  I only use USB wifi adaptors.  Never had the need for more PCI slots.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: espi on Jun 23, 2006 at 09:08 AM
sir jay,

what is the best resolution setting for a 32" philips pixel plus widescreen lcd tv? kailangan pa ba ng power strip? or kaya naman i setup using the native resolutions lang?

btw, i have a 128mb geforce fx 5200 card.

what is your suggested video card for dvd playback? medyo more on dvd viewing ako e.

salamat po!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 23, 2006 at 10:05 AM
I believe the native resolution of your LCD is 1366 x 768, if  your video card supports it then set it at 1366 x 768 or 1360 x 768.

If your card does not support these resolutions, then download the latest drivers from nvidia or use powerstrip.

I set mine at 1366x768 using an nvidia 6600GT  thru the vga cable from  my PC to my Samsung 32" LCD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: espi on Jun 23, 2006 at 09:46 PM
sir alex,

have you tried comparing dvd playbacks between a dvd player and an htpc setup with this setting? how was it? big improvement ba?

my card can support the settings you've mentioned, will there be a difference if i upgraded my card or my current rig can do the job na?

can we achieve 1080p setting? what is the resolution setting?

if i'm not mistaken 1,366x768 setting is equivalent na to 768p, ryt?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: espi on Jun 24, 2006 at 04:47 PM
sirs,

ask ko lang, what is the best software / program for dvd playback / viewing sa htpc?

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 24, 2006 at 05:49 PM
sirs,

ask ko lang, what is the best software / program for dvd playback / viewing sa htpc?

thanks!

I personally use Zoomplayer and WinDVD.  With Zoom player you can use any DVD codec.  So I use Nvidia Purevideo Decoder for Zoomplayer.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: espi on Jun 25, 2006 at 02:47 PM
I personally use Zoomplayer and WinDVD.  With Zoom player you can use any DVD codec.  So I use Nvidia Purevideo Decoder for Zoomplayer.

sir, where can i get these files?

also what are the resolution settings to achieve 720p, 1080i and 1080p?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 25, 2006 at 03:51 PM
sir, where can i get these files?

also what are the resolution settings to achieve 720p, 1080i and 1080p?

You can get zoomplayer at inmatrix.com and winDVD at intervideo.com

720p - 1280x720
1080i - 1920x1080 (set to interlace on the advanced setup)
1080p - 1920x1080 (current displays that can do 1080p are still too expensive so were stuck with either 720p or 1080i for now)

Make sure you know what your Display/TV supports.  If it can only do 1080i dont try to feed 720p you might damage your monitor :D

My LCD HDTV panel supports both 720p and 1080i but I prefer 720p because its progressive.  Interlaced makes standard windows desktop shake and makes text unreadable.. only good for displaying video.  at 720p windows desktop and text are sharp. 

If you really want 1080i some people use 3rd party apps that auto change resolution.  You can do this with powerstrip.  There is a setting somewhere in there that will change your res to whatever you want when you launch ZP.  You can have your normal res at 720p then have powerstrip switch to 1080i when Zoomplayer loads. 

No need for an upscaling DVD player :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 25, 2006 at 05:54 PM
Would having an HTPC improve the quality of my DVD viewing in an 800x600 projector as compared to just having a DVD player in component video output?  Presently I am watching in 525p using my DVD player in prog scan but can still notice the screendoor effect.  Would it diminish the screen door effect of my LCD projector if I upgrade the resolution to 720p using powerstrip? In the manual of the projector it says it can accept both 720p and 1080i signals.

Any response would be appreciated.  Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 25, 2006 at 07:33 PM
Would having an HTPC improve the quality of my DVD viewing in an 800x600 projector as compared to just having a DVD player in component video output?  Presently I am watching in 525p using my DVD player in prog scan but can still notice the screendoor effect.  Would it diminish the screen door effect of my LCD projector if I upgrade the resolution to 720p using powerstrip? In the manual of the projector it says it can accept both 720p and 1080i signals.

Any response would be appreciated.  Thanks! ;D

Hi Nerveblocker,

Yes with a capital Y heheh.  Building an HTPC from scratch will cost you money.  If you have a spare PC that can play DVDs then that might be a good option for you.  PC are inherently progressive already, now if you can connect a PC to your projector then you already have progressive output, Play a DVD then depending on the resolution you are running that will be the video output.

A good setup would be a PC running at 1280x720 resolution for 720p.  Then run a software DVD player.  There are so many ways to improve picture quality as well.  FFdshow is a filter that can run with your software DVD player (like zoomplayer) to do further postprocessing like, video resize, sharpening, denoise and such, but you will need a hefty processor for FFDshow.  With a good sound card you can even output full surround sound.

Other advantages of an HTPC:

Upscale DVDs
Hook up a TV tuner and you can watch and record TV shows (Personal Video Recorder)
Play videos other than DVDs
Play HD videos
Play your music collection
View photos and slideshows
surf the web
Make your own sling box (watch videos on your computer from any internet connected PC)

There are so many possibilities
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 25, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Thanks jay for the quick response.  I am still looking at my options as of the moment and of course how far my wallet will go.....upgrade...upgrade....upgrade ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 25, 2006 at 10:49 PM
Thanks jay for the quick response.  I am still looking at my options as of the moment and of course how far my wallet will go.....upgrade...upgrade....upgrade ;D

Honestly HTPCs are for geeks like me...heheh HTPC has a long way to go in terms of being an appliance, you have to know how to deal with software and have the patience to tweak.   Anyways it should be a fulfilling experience.  Especially when you get the perfect video output.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Jun 26, 2006 at 08:29 AM

 FFdshow is a filter that can run with your software DVD player (like zoomplayer) to do further postprocessing like, video resize, sharpening, denoise and such, but you will need a hefty processor for FFDshow. 

May I ask if you are using a dvd drive for postprocessing. or you have ripped the dvd to the hard disk.

Is this similar to extacting and saving wav files to the hard disk then play the files from the hard disk. I would prefer this setup although this need a lot of disk space. I am avoiding disk being read by the laser.

thanx.

louie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 26, 2006 at 09:30 AM
May I ask if you are using a dvd drive for postprocessing. or you have ripped the dvd to the hard disk.

Is this similar to extacting and saving wav files to the hard disk then play the files from the hard disk. I would prefer this setup although this need a lot of disk space. I am avoiding disk being read by the laser.

thanx.

louie

You can do postprocessing from a DVD drive or from the hard disk (after ripping the DVD to the hard disk).

Why are you avoiding the disk being read by the laser?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: scoob on Jun 26, 2006 at 10:18 AM
Hi htpc experts,

I want to connect by PC (desktop) to my AVR (Audio/Video Receiver) thru digital connection.  My sound card(built in) currently does not support SPDIF, what are my other options (besides buying a sound card with SPDIF)?  Are there dauther boards that I can coonect to my sound card that have SPDIF?  Are there softwares needed to be able to pass DTS/Dolby Digital from my sound card to my AVR?

TIA

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 26, 2006 at 10:35 AM
Hi htpc experts,

I want to connect by PC (desktop) to my AVR (Audio/Video Receiver) thru digital connection.  My sound card(built in) currently does not support SPDIF, what are my other options (besides buying a sound card with SPDIF)?  Are there dauther boards that I can coonect to my sound card that have SPDIF?  Are there softwares needed to be able to pass DTS/Dolby Digital from my sound card to my AVR?

TIA



Most motherboards with built-in sound card have an SPDIF header, where you can plug either an optical or coaxial digital port (you need to get in touch with your motherboard manufacturer to get the connector), if not, you need to get a sound card with spdif connection.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 26, 2006 at 10:37 AM
Hi htpc experts,

I want to connect by PC (desktop) to my AVR (Audio/Video Receiver) thru digital connection.  My sound card(built in) currently does not support SPDIF, what are my other options (besides buying a sound card with SPDIF)?  Are there dauther boards that I can coonect to my sound card that have SPDIF?  Are there softwares needed to be able to pass DTS/Dolby Digital from my sound card to my AVR?

TIA



Hi Scoob,

check your motherboard, if it has headers for spdif.  If it does you can make your own digital output, by simply using an RCA connector and connecting it to the header.  I've done this before with one of my older motherboards, I simply got a connector (the spdif connector that usually comes free with DVD/CD drives) and connected it to a female RCA plug.  Connected an RCA cable to my new digital out, and straight into the coaxial input of my AVR and voila!

If your motherboard does not have spdif headers, then you might have to add a soundcard that supports spdif.  If you are interested I have a sealed HDA Xmystique 7.1 with dolby digital live.  Let me know if your interested.

The software DVD player should be able to send the digital AC-3 or DTS to your receiver by simply selecting spdif on the software DVD player's setup configuration.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 26, 2006 at 10:43 AM
May I ask if you are using a dvd drive for postprocessing. or you have ripped the dvd to the hard disk.

Is this similar to extacting and saving wav files to the hard disk then play the files from the hard disk. I would prefer this setup although this need a lot of disk space. I am avoiding disk being read by the laser.

thanx.

louie

you can do post processing both for DVD in the drive and on the hard disk.  I also prefer DVDs on the hard disk but that requires a lot of space.  Why are you avoiding the disk being read by the laser?  If you want minimal DVD reading, you can try DVDidle.  This caches your DVD for minimal DVD laser reading.  Instead of your DVD being read by the drive for the whole duration of the movie, the DVD will be read only for about 20min.  The rest of the time the DVD will be playing off the cache.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Jun 26, 2006 at 10:46 AM
Why are you avoiding the disk being read by the laser?

I have tried Audio CD ripped to a hard disk, I prefer the result. The sound is comparable to a dedicated CD player.

Louie

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 26, 2006 at 11:59 AM
I have tried Audio CD ripped to a hard disk, I prefer the result. The sound is comparable to a dedicated CD player.

Louie



I prefer ripping audio cd's to my hard disks too, i can equalize the volume and have my libraries organized as well and I can create playlists!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 26, 2006 at 05:26 PM
When ripping DVDs to your hard drive, it would be best if you rip at full quality, so you get the exact digital version of the DVD on your HDD.  That will take up a lot of space.  If you rip with compression naman, playing a DVD on the DVD drive would produce better results.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Jun 26, 2006 at 06:25 PM
sirs tanong lang po.  i have a creative SB audigy soundcard that is supposed to be 6.1.  I tried to connect it to my avr (yamaha rxv750) by way of coax pero stero lang output nya ( i mean front lang ang tumutunog).  ganun din ang result pag optical gamit ko. same result for the pci card and front drive connections. i am using the speaker test software of creative and it is indicating that signals are being sent to the speakers. ok naman avr ko if i used its test tone function ( gumagana lahat ng speakers). ano kaya problema? compatibility? ty po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 26, 2006 at 11:15 PM
sirs tanong lang po.  i have a creative SB audigy soundcard that is supposed to be 6.1.  I tried to connect it to my avr (yamaha rxv750) by way of coax pero stero lang output nya ( i mean front lang ang tumutunog).  ganun din ang result pag optical gamit ko. same result for the pci card and front drive connections. i am using the speaker test software of creative and it is indicating that signals are being sent to the speakers. ok naman avr ko if i used its test tone function ( gumagana lahat ng speakers). ano kaya problema? compatibility? ty po

ano gamit mo na software for playing DVD? may setup yun, make sure na naka set sya to spdif.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Jun 27, 2006 at 08:29 AM
When ripping DVDs to your hard drive, it would be best if you rip at full quality, so you get the exact digital version of the DVD on your HDD.  That will take up a lot of space.  If you rip with compression naman, playing a DVD on the DVD drive would produce better results.

Thanks for the tip.

Louie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Jun 27, 2006 at 06:21 PM
sir jpadua,
thanks for the tip, i havent done that yet but sure enough there is a config in the dvd sw...i am using a version of power dvd that is included in the dvd rom...i will try to hook it up with my avr again...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Jun 28, 2006 at 02:14 AM
Quote
Make your own sling box (watch videos on your computer from any internet connected PC)

hi Sir Jay, quick question lang po, what's this "sling box" all about?  thanks. ;)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 28, 2006 at 04:23 AM
sir jpadua,
thanks for the tip, i havent done that yet but sure enough there is a config in the dvd sw...i am using a version of power dvd that is included in the dvd rom...i will try to hook it up with my avr again...

Usually yung soft DVD players na free with DVD rom drives, kulang yung features, baka walang spdif ... pero check mo na rin sa audio setup try to set it to spdif.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 28, 2006 at 04:27 AM
hi Sir Jay, quick question lang po, what's this "sling box" all about?  thanks. ;)



a sling box is a machine (PC based) that you hook up to your Cable, and you can set it up to record TV shows.  Then you can view them anywhere from the internet. Of course the slingbox has to be connected to the internet vial DSL or Cable. 

sling box is getting a lot of buzz... Some people set up sling boxes in the states so that they can view US TV programming from here via the internet.  The sling box is configurable  via HTTP,  so if you have a friend in the states, setup a slingbox over there, and you can watch US TV here.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: et414 on Jun 28, 2006 at 08:00 AM
hi guys, can anyone suggest a mobo for the pentium d930? im looking for one with onboard video and spdif. it will be used 70% torrent downloading(and watching)/ 30% gaming. tia! 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 28, 2006 at 08:02 AM
hi guys, can anyone suggest a mobo for the pentium d930? im looking for one with onboard video and spdif. it will be used 70% torrent downloading(and watching)/ 30% gaming. tia! 

Try the MSI P4N SLI-FI, I have no problem with it, SPDIF works great and the option to have nvidia's SLI later is great for gaming.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Jun 28, 2006 at 09:04 AM
You guys got me thinking into going to HTPC.

Planning to start with this:

DFI ATI RS482 Infinity mATX Socket 939 Motherboard
Features:

    *A finest solution for PC's rich media
    *AMD Athlon 64 X2 CPU(Socket 939)
    *ATI Radeon Xpress 200 RS482 Chipset
    *Integrated ATI Radeon X300 GPU
    *FSB 2000MTps & Dual-Channels DDR400 memory
    *TV-out(HDTV supports)/ VGA/ DVI-D output device,
    the best DVD playback experience
    *Gigabit PCI LAN & 4 x SATA
    *8channels High definition Audio
    *8 x USB2.0 ports

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_spec_details_r_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=4497&CATEGORY_TYPE=LP&SITE=US

Please comment.

Thanks.

Louie

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Jun 28, 2006 at 12:08 PM
RU9,

That board is very good. But I suggest to get the board that support dual channel DDR2 and the latest Socket AM2. Then get a good video card: Nvidea 7 series or ATI X1300 up.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: et414 on Jun 28, 2006 at 12:51 PM
alexg,

thanx for replying, hows the performance of your pentium d? does it give a better pq than an upscaling dvd player when playing divx? i use an oppo and dvd playback is terrific but divx playback looks a little weird.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Jun 28, 2006 at 12:58 PM
a sling box is a machine (PC based) that you hook up to your Cable, and you can set it up to record TV shows. Then you can view them anywhere from the internet. Of course the slingbox has to be connected to the internet vial DSL or Cable.

sling box is getting a lot of buzz... Some people set up sling boxes in the states so that they can view US TV programming from here via the internet. The sling box is configurable via HTTP, so if you have a friend in the states, setup a slingbox over there, and you can watch US TV here.

hmm...INTERESTING  ah...?  ;) how much it will cost to add that slingbox thing?  and... yung PC ba sa states ang kailangan lang may slingbox or both? again sir jay,thanks.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 28, 2006 at 01:06 PM
alexg,

thanx for replying, hows the performance of your pentium d? does it give a better pq than an upscaling dvd player when playing divx? i use an oppo and dvd playback is terrific but divx playback looks a little weird.

I have compared my HTPC with upscaling DVD player, and I would prefer my HTPC over upscaling DVD player. I am using Zoom Player pro with ffdshow, avisynth and I have enabled trimension. I hardly use my DVD player now, except for playing DVD-Audio and SACD.  ;D

Using either my Infocus and my Samsung LCD, I get very good PQ.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Jun 28, 2006 at 01:17 PM
RU9,

That board is very good. But I suggest to get the board that support dual channel DDR2 and the latest Socket AM2. Then get a good video card: Nvidea 7 series or ATI X1300 up.

Thanks, will look into this.

Louie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 28, 2006 at 01:41 PM
I have compared my HTPC with upscaling DVD player, and I would prefer my HTPC over upscaling DVD player. I am using Zoom Player pro with ffdshow, avisynth and I have enabled trimension. I hardly use my DVD player now, except for playing DVD-Audio and SACD.  ;D

Using either my Infocus and my Samsung LCD, I get very good PQ.

Heya, how did you get trimension working? are you using the older winDVD6 Codec with trimension? To what I know the newer winDVD codecs have locked down the trimension feature to only the winDVD player...if you are using newer codecs, let me know how you did it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 28, 2006 at 01:59 PM
Heya, how did you get trimension working? are you using the older winDVD6 Codec with trimension? To what I know the newer winDVD codecs have locked down the trimension feature to only the winDVD player...if you are using newer codecs, let me know how you did it. Thanks!
I was able to find WinDVD6 on the net. The newer codecs will not work. (Lucky for me, I do not use WinDVD so I can have the old version, 6, installed).  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 29, 2006 at 03:00 AM
I was able to find WinDVD6 on the net. The newer codecs will not work. (Lucky for me, I do not use WinDVD so I can have the old version, 6, installed).  ;D

Oh I figured :) I have 6 also...  But the trimension is not as good as the new one.. lots of artifacts... have you tried watching lightsaber fights with trimension in windvd6? you can see blocks of pixels on the light sabers, the new trimension has fixed the artifacts and is so much cleaner, but has locked out trimension to only the winDVD player
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jun 29, 2006 at 08:05 AM
Oh I figured :) I have 6 also...  But the trimension is not as good as the new one.. lots of artifacts... have you tried watching lightsaber fights with trimension in windvd6? you can see blocks of pixels on the light sabers, the new trimension has fixed the artifacts and is so much cleaner, but has locked out trimension to only the winDVD player

I have tried windvd6 on Star Wars and other DVD's, and I did not remember seeing the blocks of pixels. Anyway, will look for it tonight.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 05, 2006 at 06:12 PM
I have tried windvd6 on Star Wars and other DVD's, and I did not remember seeing the blocks of pixels. Anyway, will look for it tonight.

I notice it when the lightsaber sparks againts each other.. try watching attack of the clones where all the jedis are fighting the droids.. you'll relly notice it there :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doc_koko on Jul 08, 2006 at 01:11 AM
Hi Mr Jay, I'm planning to set up my own HTPC after reading this forum. Looks nice but kinda hard to fix too. so maybe I'll be needing help from the 'experts' and well experienced guys.  I have JVC LT-Z26SX4 for monitor and I've been using this for more than a year as aTV only without realizing it's potentials.

I dont have a set up yet, I'm planning to. Could you give me a 'good' HTPC set up matched for my monitor. Btw, my AVR is Denon 1604. You're here in Las Pinas, that's great! I'm also Las Pineros.  Where can I buy the specs? I'm not also a computer geek but I'm willing to learn. I have shuttle xpc already, still no idea what to put inside. As of now I want the 'best for it'. Then if my budget get short, will adjust accordingly.

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 08, 2006 at 02:21 AM
Has anyone tried HQV Benchmark DVD to test their HTPC?. I am out of the HTPC scene for a long time now and was wondering about its quality today againts the best scalers out there (Iscan vp30 with abt102 deinterlacer, Gennum VPX and Silicon Optix HQV).

If not, is there a suggestion on what software and filters to use as well as their settings so that I can make a head to head comparison?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 09, 2006 at 05:54 AM
doc_koko- Welcome to Pinoydvd!  I'm sure you know me already.   ;D HTPC is the way to go coz you have a lot of options as compared to just a DVD in a hometheater.  Your LCD TV needs to be maximized and having an HTPC is the way to go......

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.mspx)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doc_koko on Jul 09, 2006 at 01:21 PM
Mr. Nerveblocker.... this is bonefixer!  You got me into this, kaya tuloy tuloy na 'to.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 09, 2006 at 02:47 PM
My new case...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/pcv300.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 10, 2006 at 06:58 AM
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/HTPC.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/HTPC1.jpg)

My Budget HTPC (Fujitsu FMV-C9/190L)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jul 10, 2006 at 12:47 PM
My new case...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/pcv300.gif)

where did you get this? how much, if you please?  thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 10, 2006 at 02:28 PM
voj ,

Order thru tipidpc ...5900
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 11, 2006 at 06:06 AM
Tried hooking my HTPC to my Epson EMP-S3  projector and definitely resolution and video quality kicks the butt out of my Philips DVD player with progressive scan.  I'm happy I made the right decision.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jul 11, 2006 at 07:28 AM
voj ,

Order thru tipidpc ...5900

How do you order from tipidpc?

Would this case take a full size ATX mobo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 11, 2006 at 09:51 AM
How do you order from tipidpc?

Would this case take a full size ATX mobo?

join tipidpc and PM babinang

micro atx lang...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Jul 11, 2006 at 10:11 AM
join tipidpc and PM babinang

micro atx lang...

Thanks!

Am already a member, unfortunately my mobo is a full atx. I guess I have to go with the Lian Li htpc case.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 13, 2006 at 01:38 PM
Courtesy of a friend from HK


(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/DSC00130.jpg)

MSI K8NGM2-FID is the best overall Socket 939 GeForce 6150 board

Comes with DVI / VGA / Component /S-Video/ ouputs spdif header and 7.1 Audio outs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mheloy on Jul 13, 2006 at 02:19 PM
Tried hooking my HTPC to my Epson EMP-S3  projector and definitely resolution and video quality kicks the butt out of my Philips DVD player with progressive scan.  I'm happy I made the right decision.  ;D

sir ano specs ng HTPC mo?

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jul 13, 2006 at 02:50 PM
Courtesy of a friend from HK


(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/DSC00130.jpg)

MSI K8NGM2-FID is the best overall Socket 939 GeForce 6150 board

Comes with DVI / VGA / Component /S-Video/ ouputs spdif header and 7.1 Audio outs

ano gagamitin mo processor dyan?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 13, 2006 at 04:15 PM
Quote
ano gagamitin mo processor dyan?

thanks

AMD64  x2 3800 or 3500xp
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 13, 2006 at 05:49 PM
sir ano specs ng HTPC mo?

Thanks

P4 1.6Ghz
512MB DDR
80GB HDD
ATI Radeon 7000
Sound Blaster Audigy via SPDIF
DVD Combo Drive

As I have said this is a budget HTPC but ok na sa DVD viewing and listening to my music connected to my Denon 1803 AVR.  Still in the process of upgrading.....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Jul 14, 2006 at 01:16 AM
P4 1.6Ghz
512MB DDR
80GB HDD
ATI Radeon 7000
Sound Blaster Audigy via SPDIF
DVD Combo Drive

As I have said this is a budget HTPC but ok na sa DVD viewing and listening to my music connected to my Denon 1803 AVR.  Still in the process of upgrading.....

Nice receiver. I used to have an 1802 before I upgraded to 3803. I coupled that with a Rotel power amp and it rocked!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: backdraft on Jul 14, 2006 at 01:27 AM
Doc,

ano casing gamit mo dyan? picture naman dyan  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 14, 2006 at 03:00 AM
Courtesy of a friend from HK


(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/DSC00130.jpg)

MSI K8NGM2-FID is the best overall Socket 939 GeForce 6150 board

Comes with DVI / VGA / Component /S-Video/ ouputs spdif header and 7.1 Audio outs

Thats a really nice mobo!!! mini review! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deo on Jul 14, 2006 at 10:00 AM
mga bro, outdated na ata ako sa PC..na amaze kasi ako ng nakita ko to

http://www.dell.com/ces grabe...pwde ko na install ung Windows XP ko sa laki ng memory ng Video card!  :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: coolkiks on Jul 14, 2006 at 10:25 AM
just want to share my set up ( built last April 2006 ). don't know if it falls on HTPC, but for me it does hehe since e2 gamit ko to view dvd's, listen to mp3's etc etc.  ;D


MOBO: Asus P5LD2 Deluxe
CPU: Intel Pentium D 3.0 GHz (930)
Memory: OCZ DDR2 PC5400 Value Series
HD: Seagate 300 GB, 160GB
Video Card: HIS x1600 Pro IceQ 256 MB
Monitor: Viewsonic VA1912WB 19"wide screen LCD
Optical Drive: Imation DVD Writer



Casing: CM Centurion 5,
PS: CM Real Power 450 W
CPU Fan: Zalman CNPS9500LED
CM Muskeeter
Speakers: Altec Lansing ATP-3

OS:Windows XP Media Center 2005


pix to follow na lng po....

planning to upgrade my casing, add TV tuner...








Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jul 15, 2006 at 12:02 AM
mga sirs ano magandang stand-alone tv-tuner for my lcd monitor?? TIA

-doughn
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 15, 2006 at 12:22 AM
@doughn Viewsonic N5 try to visit this thread.

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=54376.0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jul 15, 2006 at 10:33 PM
@Meridian-Audio

Maraming Salamas..

-doughn
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ronjet on Jul 15, 2006 at 10:50 PM
sir jambam... how much score mo dyan? nice! ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 15, 2006 at 11:30 PM
sir jambam... how much score mo dyan? nice! ;)

HK$630
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jul 16, 2006 at 10:01 PM
Building my HTPC:


(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6308/voj01iy6.jpg)     (http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2876/voj02lv1.jpg)


(http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8741/voj03il7.jpg)     (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2103/voj04lg8.jpg)


(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2185/voj05js0.jpg)     (http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5619/voj06zw3.jpg)


more pics to follow. 

Special thanks to the people of TipidPC who actually assembled this for me yesterday: babinang and his people, darthmaul, piso, axlrose, etc.  Notice the neat cable management

Processor to follow.  Awaiting price drop.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 16, 2006 at 10:12 PM
Nice one voj!  Galing!

Just wondering if having a separate sound card (with SPDIF out) would fare better in sound quality as compared to the integrated MOBO soundcard with SPDIF out considering that the DD and DTS soundtracks are just passing through this output if you are going to use an HT receiver?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 16, 2006 at 10:21 PM
Nice one Voj!!!!

Mel, the onboard spdif can only pass AC-3 , DTS and PCM Stereo.  The Xmystique that Voj got from me, can do realtime AC-3 encoding. So even analog sources, sounds from computer games, mp3, VCD, TV Tuner, will be converted to Dolby Digital. :)

Just sold the last Xmystique yesterday!

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jul 16, 2006 at 10:29 PM
Nice one Voj!!!!

Mel, the onboard spdif can only pass AC-3 , DTS and PCM Stereo.  The Xmystique that Voj got from me, can do realtime AC-3 encoding. So even analog sources, sounds from computer games, mp3, VCD, TV Tuner, will be converted to Dolby Digital. :)

Just sold the last Xmystique yesterday!

Jay



Thanks mel and jay  ;D,

Sayang, Jay, one guy at TipidPC HQ kept asking me to sell the Xmystique to him and I told him to contact you (come to think of it baka siya na nga bumili nung last mo  ;D)  Anyway, papatulong pa rin ako sa iyo, ha.  Hindi nila forte HTPC marami pang fine-tuning kailangan.

Babinang lent me an Athlon 64 3200+ just so we can boot test the parts so that I can return any defective parts I might have bought.  The Ninja Plus CPU cooler turned out to be too big for the case, luckily, someone took it off my hands there for a little less than what I bought it for.  Now waiting for the price drop.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 17, 2006 at 04:47 AM


Thanks mel and jay  ;D,

Sayang, Jay, one guy at TipidPC HQ kept asking me to sell the Xmystique to him and I told him to contact you (come to think of it baka siya na nga bumili nung last mo  ;D)  Anyway, papatulong pa rin ako sa iyo, ha.  Hindi nila forte HTPC marami pang fine-tuning kailangan.

Babinang lent me an Athlon 64 3200+ just so we can boot test the parts so that I can return any defective parts I might have bought.  The Ninja Plus CPU cooler turned out to be too big for the case, luckily, someone took it off my hands there for a little less than what I bought it for.  Now waiting for the price drop.

Voj,

Baka nga... the guy who bought it from me was from TPC nga... he just signed up daw just to contact me for the card... he's loving it right now :) nice to know...

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 17, 2006 at 08:18 AM
Nice one Voj!!!!

Mel, the onboard spdif can only pass AC-3 , DTS and PCM Stereo.  The Xmystique that Voj got from me, can do realtime AC-3 encoding. So even analog sources, sounds from computer games, mp3, VCD, TV Tuner, will be converted to Dolby Digital. :)

Just sold the last Xmystique yesterday!

Jay

Wow amazing! Thanks for that info Jay.  Very tempting.....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: stipen22 on Jul 17, 2006 at 05:32 PM
Hi to all you guyz here, I'm just stumble on with this sound card over the net just want to hear comments from you about this card. Thankz!!!  :)

(http://www.auzentech.com/images/box_xplosion/front4.jpg)
(http://www.auzentech.com/images/xplosion_card.jpg)
(http://www.auzentech.com/images/box_xplosion/back5.jpg)

http://www.auzentech.com/products_xplosion.html#tour
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 17, 2006 at 09:59 PM
Hi to all you guyz here, I'm just stumble on with this sound card over the net just want to hear comments from you about this card. Thankz!!!  :)

(http://www.auzentech.com/images/box_xplosion/front4.jpg)
(http://www.auzentech.com/images/xplosion_card.jpg)
(http://www.auzentech.com/images/box_xplosion/back5.jpg)

http://www.auzentech.com/products_xplosion.html#tour


This is a great Sound card, very similar to the Xmystique but with the addition of DTS connect. 

Xmystique = Realtime Dolby Digital Encoding.
Xplosion = Realtime Dolby Digital Encoding and Realtime DTS encoding. (yes it can do both)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 18, 2006 at 08:28 AM
Building my HTPC:


(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6308/voj01iy6.jpg)     (http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2876/voj02lv1.jpg)


(http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8741/voj03il7.jpg)     (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2103/voj04lg8.jpg)


(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2185/voj05js0.jpg)     (http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5619/voj06zw3.jpg)


more pics to follow. 

Special thanks to the people of TipidPC who actually assembled this for me yesterday: babinang and his people, darthmaul, piso, axlrose, etc.  Notice the neat cable management

Processor to follow.  Awaiting price drop.   ;D


Hi voj,

Wer did u get ur HTPC case & how much did u get ur DFI lanparty?
Is it the one being sold by waycool of tpc?
Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Jul 18, 2006 at 08:59 AM
Hi voj,

Wer did u get ur HTPC case & how much did u get ur DFI lanparty?
Is it the one being sold by waycool of tpc?
Thanks


DFI lan party, xfx 7300gt, scythe ninja plus thru waycool of tipidpc
HDD, memory, HEC winpower thru tchjunction of tipidpc
xmystique thru jaypadua
benq dvd writer thru villman park square
btc keyboard thru octagon megamall
hdmi to dvi cable, hdmi to dvi converter thru jambam

dell lcd monitors thru dell usa
silverstone case thru ebay usa
hauppauge 250 thru ebay usa
spire soundpad, peerless wall mount thru online stores, can't remember


i posted some of these a few pages back.

The DFI lanparty nf4 ultra-d is P8200.00

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 18, 2006 at 06:59 PM
How come when I watch DVDs using my DVD player, my projector reads that the resolution is 525p.  But when I use the PC to watch DVDs in my projector, it reads 800x600 up to 1260x768 not 480p, 525p or 720p. 

Is there any equivalent on the computer's resolution to the dvd's resolution? I'm kind confused with these values.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 18, 2006 at 07:13 PM
Ano gamit mo connection between PJ & DVD player?
Meron ka ba gamit na specific software to manage resolution sa HTPC mo? like Powerstrips or equivalent?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 18, 2006 at 07:58 PM
How come when I watch DVDs using my DVD player, my projector reads that the resolution is 525p.  But when I use the PC to watch DVDs in my projector, it reads 800x600 up to 1260x768 not 480p, 525p or 720p. 

Is there any equivalent on the computer's resolution to the dvd's resolution? I'm kind confused with these values.

I'm guess you are using VGA (PC input) on your projector. Not sure if this will work, but you can try to set your video card to output a standard HDTV signal.  for 720p set your display to 1280x720 @ 60hz.  If you PJ displays 1280x720 and not 720 maybe its just because you are connected via VGA and the PJ is assuming the signal is a PC.

In my case, my LCD TV displays 1280x720 60hz using my htpc.  I hooked up a samsung upscaling DVD player to my LCD using the DVI port and when I selected 720p the LCD TV displayed 1280x720 60hz, I selected 1080i on the player and the LCD displayed 1920x1080i 60hz.

It shouldnt really matter what your PJ displays, as long as you know you are outputing the resolution you want.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 19, 2006 at 08:49 AM
Ano gamit mo connection between PJ & DVD player?
Meron ka ba gamit na specific software to manage resolution sa HTPC mo? like Powerstrips or equivalent?

Sir I use a VGA cable from my PC to the projector.  When I use my DVD player, I use component video to VGA cable.   Nope as of the moment I am not using any software yet to manage the resolution of my HTPC.  I'll try to download powerstrip and check the results.  I'll keep on posting. Thanks!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 19, 2006 at 08:50 AM
Thanks Jay for the response.  I'll try to download powerstrip and try to tinker with the settings.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Jul 19, 2006 at 01:44 PM
..., I use component video to VGA cable...

sir saan nyo nabili yung component to vga cable? ty po in advance
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 19, 2006 at 07:17 PM
sir saan nyo nabili yung component to vga cable? ty po in advance

hi ako nagbenta kay nerveblocker ng VGA to component cable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 20, 2006 at 08:49 AM
Tried using powerstrip to still try to upgrade to the highest possible resolution but my PJ can only accept refresh rate at 60Hz.  Higher resolutions running at 75Hz there is no display.  Oh well, can't have it all.  I am very much satisfied at its present resolution though.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 20, 2006 at 12:34 PM
Tried experimenting again with powerstrip and the highest resolution that my EMP-S3 projector can accept is 1280x960p  :o. The picture seems smaller with bigger black bars top and bottom but can still occupy the whole screen horizontally when watching dvds compared to the resolution I usually use which is 1280x768. Guess I rest my case.

Thanks jay for the help!  I really appreciate it  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 20, 2006 at 01:26 PM
Tried experimenting again with powerstrip and the highest resolution that my EMP-S3 projector can accept is 1280x960p  :o. The picture seems smaller with bigger black bars top and bottom but can still occupy the whole screen horizontally when watching dvds compared to the resolution I usually use which is 1280x768. Guess I rest my case.

Thanks jay for the help!  I really appreciate it  ;D

Mel, try to find out what the native resolution of your projector is.  The projector, just like an HDTV can scale images.  For best PQ you would want to have 1:1 pixel mapping.  That is matching the HTPCs output resolution to your projector's native resolution.  For example... the native resolution of my LCD monitor is 1280x720.  If I display anything other than that the text is a bit fuzzy... when I use 1280x720 as my resolution, text is extremely sharp compared to higher resolutions...thats why projectors that are 720p native or 1080p native are really really expensive...  Normally a projector in the 80-150k range, the native resolution might be 800x600. 

I have a file that can check your pixel mapping.  Download this, and make it your wallpaper, set it to centered or tiled but not streched.  Then if the dots are not clear (there is bleeding, a bit fuzzy) then that means you are not in 1:1 pixel mapping.  Try different resolutions till you get the sharpest definition.

http://www.m2systech.com/files/720x576.bmp
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 21, 2006 at 10:55 AM
Mel, try to find out what the native resolution of your projector is.  The projector, just like an HDTV can scale images.  For best PQ you would want to have 1:1 pixel mapping.  That is matching the HTPCs output resolution to your projector's native resolution.  For example... the native resolution of my LCD monitor is 1280x720.  If I display anything other than that the text is a bit fuzzy... when I use 1280x720 as my resolution, text is extremely sharp compared to higher resolutions...thats why projectors that are 720p native or 1080p native are really really expensive...  Normally a projector in the 80-150k range, the native resolution might be 800x600. 

I have a file that can check your pixel mapping.  Download this, and make it your wallpaper, set it to centered or tiled but not streched.  Then if the dots are not clear (there is bleeding, a bit fuzzy) then that means you are not in 1:1 pixel mapping.  Try different resolutions till you get the sharpest definition.

http://www.m2systech.com/files/720x576.bmp


Thanks for the reply.  My PJ has a native resolution of 800x600 and I can say that in terms of text, this is the most clear among the other resolutions (maybe because it has the biggest letters, I dunno).  But when it comes to video, the highest resolution which is 1280x960p which my PJ can accept is the most clear as compared to the 800x600 mode.  Well, this is subjective though.  So to reaffirm my observations,  I invited friends and relatives over to really compare the DVD video quality of the native and upscaled resolutions and they vouched for the latter as being more clear.  Why? As compared to the native 800x600, the higher resolution has more color separation.  I tested ANTZ for instance and the flying insects' closed up skin was more detailed on 1280x960p. In the 800x600 mode, there was just one shade of yellow (sort of a mixed blend) but on the higher resolution there were shades and contours which was more defined; edges were more sharp, colors have different gradations...more of HDTV-like already.  The difference was very evident.  So when I watch DVDs, I use 1280x768p (which has narrower black bars top and bottom of the screen but with superb video quality) and I just shift to a lower resolution when using the internet for a clearer text.

Just posting my observations.  I'll try to download what you've posted and also check it out.  Although I think the answer to this is already predictable.  Ciao! ;D       
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 21, 2006 at 12:10 PM
Hi to all you guyz here, I'm just stumble on with this sound card over the net just want to hear comments from you about this card. Thankz!!!  :)

(http://www.auzentech.com/images/box_xplosion/front4.jpg)
(http://www.auzentech.com/images/xplosion_card.jpg)
(http://www.auzentech.com/images/box_xplosion/back5.jpg)

http://www.auzentech.com/products_xplosion.html#tour


Is this available locally?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 21, 2006 at 05:53 PM
Thanks for the reply.  My PJ has a native resolution of 800x600 and I can say that in terms of text, this is the most clear among the other resolutions (maybe because it has the biggest letters, I dunno).  But when it comes to video, the highest resolution which is 1280x960p which my PJ can accept is the most clear as compared to the 800x600 mode.  Well, this is subjective though.  So to reaffirm my observations,  I invited friends and relatives over to really compare the DVD video quality of the native and upscaled resolutions and they vouched for the latter as being more clear.  Why? As compared to the native 800x600, the higher resolution has more color separation.  I tested ANTZ for instance and the flying insects' closed up skin was more detailed on 1280x960p. In the 800x600 mode, there was just one shade of yellow (sort of a mixed blend) but on the higher resolution there were shades and contours which was more defined; edges were more sharp, colors have different gradations...more of HDTV-like already.  The difference was very evident.  So when I watch DVDs, I use 1280x768p (which has narrower black bars top and bottom of the screen but with superb video quality) and I just shift to a lower resolution when using the internet for a clearer text.

Just posting my observations.  I'll try to download what you've posted and also check it out.  Although I think the answer to this is already predictable.  Ciao! ;D       


I hope you don't take this negatively and I will be glad to be corrected if I am wrong. If this is the case, the scaler built in your PJ is better than your HTPC since  the built in scaler will downconvert the signal from your computer to its native resolution. Putting out 800*600 via HTPC is actually bypassing the scaler of your PJ. Any resolution other than 600*800 will trigger the scaler of the PJ whether up or downconvertion to its native resolution.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: wrAth on Jul 21, 2006 at 05:58 PM
How does the Xplosion compare with the Sound Blaster X-FI series?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 21, 2006 at 06:11 PM

I hope you don't take this negatively and I will be glad to be corrected if I am wrong. If this is the case, the scaler built in your PJ is better than your HTPC since  the built in scaler will downconvert the signal from your computer to its native resolution. Putting out 800*600 via HTPC is actually bypassing the scaler of your PJ. Any resolution other than 600*800 will trigger the scaler of the PJ whether up or downconvertion to its native resolution.

The scaler is not exactly better than the HTPCs scaling abilities... if the projector can handle a higher native output then the HTPC can certainly supply the high quality scaling ability for the source material.  In this case though, lucky enough your PJ has good scaling ability.

You may also try using 800x600 to get 1:1 pixel mapping, then use Zoomplayer and FFDshow to resize your source to a higher resolution adding some sharpening, denoise filters to get better PQ.

DVD->Zoomplayer->ffdshow->apply filters->resize to higher res->hardware downscale to 800x600by videocard->PJ=1:1 pixel mapping with postprocessed output.

with my LCD, 1280x720 looks better than 1280x768, 1280x1024 even 1920x1080i.  I'm using 1:1 pixel mapping with ZP and resizing with filters using FFDSHOW.  from a good viewing distance regular DVDs look very close to HD, not the same but way better than regular DVD.

Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 21, 2006 at 06:32 PM
alvinthx2- Thanks for the input.  Although my projector can accept signals higher than its native resolution which is 800x600, I know that what I am getting is not real high definition.  What do you expect from an entry level projector,  right?  But I am happy it is doing its job well in the downconversion.

jpadua- I'll try to experiment again.  I had a misadventure while toying with powerstrip.  I tried higher resolutions with higher frequencies until I didn't have any display with my PJ anymore.  Had to hook the HTPC to my bulky 21 inch monitor to fix the settings again.  There was a warning in the ATI videocard settings that if you force your monitor to a higher resolution with a refresh rate which your monitor can't handle, it may damage your monitor.  I thought my PJ was a goner.  That's why I am more cautious now with experimentation, I might not be able to revert back to the previous setting. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mheloy on Jul 21, 2006 at 08:53 PM
I believe there is a hot key in powerstrip para mag-display ng default resolution in case walang lumabas sa projector mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 22, 2006 at 08:40 AM
I know that the experience of having a HTPC (when you get everything right) is a great experience. Counting all the hours I have spent configuring one, even in the wee hours of the morning, the picture is absolutely stunning. Its like having very expensive technology for free(almost). Everybody needs a computer at home, and being able to use it as a superb audio/video source for a dime is remarkable.

Having said that, the reason why I am frustrated with this approach is the fact that dvd drives are very picky. Honestly speaking, I buy a lot of p*****d dvd's for single session viewing. I have no problems with originals, they play flawlessly. The dvd's that don't work with my HTPC plays with my EAD Theatervision p and pioneer 969 players. I have tried drives from Asus, Sony, LG and the like but for some reason ,DVD drives are more picky than regular players. (That was 2 years ago, maybe drives have improved)

There is no question HTPC is very good but comparing it with the GEnnum VPX, ABT102,or HQV equip scalers, I have my doubts.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: slowhand on Jul 22, 2006 at 08:59 AM
alvin, don't you have the Toshiba HD DVD player? A friend says it's like an "HTPC without the hassle" in terms of its upscaling capabilities. Could you comment please? thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 22, 2006 at 09:01 AM
Yes you are right about Optical Drives being choosy in reading DVDs.  I bought an original LXG R3 and tried it on my HTPC and it just pixellated and froze.  Bought a new liteon combo drive and still I wasnt able to finish the movie.  So I just shifted on to my regular DVD player.

Another fix to this is to decrypt your hard to read DVDs to the HDD and extract the video from there.  It might work.

My DVD player and my HTPC is attached to a KVM switch so I do not have to tinker with the back of the PJ when I shift from DVD player to HTPC. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 22, 2006 at 05:11 PM
You know the funny irony...   we spend a lot of time tweaking and buying stuff to make the HTPC a good visual experience, and yet still buy cheap P*****d discs which we know are not good quality.  Well I guess thats why the 3K dvd players are out there.  I watch quality DVDs with the htpc and just watch the single viewing type movies with the elcheapo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 22, 2006 at 05:19 PM
alvin, don't you have the Toshiba HD DVD player? A friend says it's like an "HTPC without the hassle" in terms of its upscaling capabilities. Could you comment please? thanks.

Ive used an upscaling DVD player (720p and 1080i) even wrote a good review for T3 on it.  Honestly I dont see the difference... infact 1080i looks even worse than progressive since you can see the deinterlacing artifacts. The fact is, your source material is still 480p, yes the player scales it, so no scaling is done by your HDTV or PJ, but all you are looking at is a blown up 480p video, unlike real HD material that is encoded in 720p or 1080i.  With an HTPC, you can post process a DVD upscaling the source 720x480 to 1280x720. With the proper application of processing filters you can make the picture sharper, more vibrant, cleaner.

Its true that you can have the same quality output similar to an HTPC (video connection via DVI/HDMI) but you cant do any postprocessing which is actually night and day in comparison.

I think its worth the hassle.. but thats just me :p
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Jul 23, 2006 at 02:21 AM
Just would like to point out that with my current htpc set up ,I can upscale to 1080i (1440x1080i)with out any visible scan lines from about 5 feet viewing distance .Compared to a stand alone dvd player that is scaled to 960i automatically I can still see very fine scan lines on my super fine pitch wega. 480p produces even more visible fine scan lines.Upscaled to 1080i is as film like as I could get with my current tv.Also I like changing the aspect ratio of 2.35 films to 1:85 through power dvd which gives a little bigger picture without much resolution loss.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 23, 2006 at 07:13 AM
With regards to the Toshiba HD A1, Yes it is just a repackaged HTPC using LInux. The thing is, hd-dvd's are mastered using vc-1 with a native resolution of 1080p, therefore there is really more information to work with. I myself uses 1080i because this is the output setting that works best. An output of 720p triggers the scaller to downconvert back to 480p and then 720p(quite silly I might say). With this 720p output, my upscaled regular DVD's looks better using the interlaced 480i output of my Pioneer 969 via the built in Gennum processor of my Anthem Avm50 at 720p. So far U571 and The LastSamurai looks best. There are no artifacts wharsoever. Even the horizontal panning are great without any motion judder. Colors are rich,vibrant and well defined. You can actually see details of faces that are not evident on regular DVD's.
I have upgraded it to firmware version 1.4 and some of the HDMI issues reported were solved. There are ocassional lockups and I have to restart play to get it going from the beginning. Overall, I am impressed and I have made a good descision buying one. Having true HD at home is great. Can't wait to get my hands on a a 1080p projector that I can afford.

I use my Pioneer 969 as a dedicated transport with no processing at all. The pure unprocessed 480i signal via HDMI is by far the best feed for my scaler.

I would invite anybody near my place  ;D ;D (Mabalacat, Pampanga) to see what I have done.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 23, 2006 at 01:51 PM
To answer which is better HTPC or a Video processor(not upscaling dvd players), heres one response;

They don't. If you read past the marketing hype it's basically just hardware acceleration that they are talking about. If you really want the best picture out of an HTPC it means using ffdshow for quality scaling and sharpening (and possibly some NR). This means that all of the fancy hardware accleration is turned off. HW is only a part of the equation though. To fully render a DVD a PC uses a "filter graph" utilizing a lot of different software components and renderers. Microsoft's Renderless VMR9 is the best renderer at this time, but it's still a work in progress (check the archives in the HTPC forum about Renderless VMR9 issues compared to the older Overlay renderer and VMR7). Judder is still a big problem, HTPCs also have deinterlacing problems with non-standard cadences, they don't have the power to perform per-pixel MAD. The available sharpening and NR (ffdshow) isn't close to what an Algolith Mosquito can do. The list just goes on...

I don't see the balance shifting anytime soon because HTPC's are such a small segment of the PC market. nvidia and ATI are much more focused on gaming performance than something like judder reduction. While at the other end VP's have gained steam and are including more features and improved performance specifically for HT.

Don't get me wrong though, an HTPC still offers great performance and when it comes to bang for the buck it's untouchable. But it doesn't set the bar on performance anymore (if it ever did). It's forte is really in mixed media playback.

I probably sound like a VP zealot, but I have been using a HTPC exclusively for most of the past 7 or so years. It was after spending a lot of time dialing in a good picture with ffdshow and then seeing that there were products that do a better job with less artifacts that really got me to look hard at the new developments in VPs. Now that I've had the chance to use several VPs, an HTPC just doesn't cut it for me as far as top PQ. I see much less artifacts, judder and better colors on a VP even something as inexpensive as a DVDO Iscan HD+ than I do with my HTPC. My HTPC is still in my rack however and I don't have any plans on removing it. Its purpose has changed into being more of a swiss army knife than the PQ scalpel that it once was .
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 23, 2006 at 02:17 PM
To answer which is better HTPC or a Video processor(not upscaling dvd players), heres one response;

They don't. If you read past the marketing hype it's basically just hardware acceleration that they are talking about. If you really want the best picture out of an HTPC it means using ffdshow for quality scaling and sharpening (and possibly some NR). This means that all of the fancy hardware accleration is turned off. HW is only a part of the equation though. To fully render a DVD a PC uses a "filter graph" utilizing a lot of different software components and renderers. Microsoft's Renderless VMR9 is the best renderer at this time, but it's still a work in progress (check the archives in the HTPC forum about Renderless VMR9 issues compared to the older Overlay renderer and VMR7). Judder is still a big problem, HTPCs also have deinterlacing problems with non-standard cadences, they don't have the power to perform per-pixel MAD. The available sharpening and NR (ffdshow) isn't close to what an Algolith Mosquito can do. The list just goes on...

I don't see the balance shifting anytime soon because HTPC's are such a small segment of the PC market. nvidia and ATI are much more focused on gaming performance than something like judder reduction. While at the other end VP's have gained steam and are including more features and improved performance specifically for HT.

Don't get me wrong though, an HTPC still offers great performance and when it comes to bang for the buck it's untouchable. But it doesn't set the bar on performance anymore (if it ever did). It's forte is really in mixed media playback.

I probably sound like a VP zealot, but I have been using a HTPC exclusively for most of the past 7 or so years. It was after spending a lot of time dialing in a good picture with ffdshow and then seeing that there were products that do a better job with less artifacts that really got me to look hard at the new developments in VPs. Now that I've had the chance to use several VPs, an HTPC just doesn't cut it for me as far as top PQ. I see much less artifacts, judder and better colors on a VP even something as inexpensive as a DVDO Iscan HD+ than I do with my HTPC. My HTPC is still in my rack however and I don't have any plans on removing it. Its purpose has changed into being more of a swiss army knife than the PQ scalpel that it once was .


Hi Alvin!

woops! excuse my ignorance... heheh I thought you were talking about an upscaling DVD player.  Well then I should agree with you... hardware video processors are really better... no hassles. I wish I could afford one though hehehe... I totally agree with you, HTPCs are the swissknives.   Video cards are more geared towards gaming performance... but i do see the trend changing.  A lot of emphasis have been put to video quality on video cards lately especially with Nvidia 7 series cards and the new Sapphire ATI hdmi video cards with avivo.  I still think there is hope for the HTPC... really its a hobby...  despite all the hassles, its really the tweaking, building, making it look beautiful (HTPC cases) that makes it a hobby thats why HTPCs are not for everyone.  MS is doing a great deal of effort to get it into the mainstream though so I should applaud them for that too. 

Only if MS would support MCE locally (having it locally available, and having an automated program schedule for the philippines)

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on Jul 23, 2006 at 09:46 PM


I would invite anybody near my place  ;D ;D (Mabalacat, Pampanga) to see what I have done.
sir, i would love to do that, to preview the magic of hd-dvd....near lang ako... :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 24, 2006 at 10:16 AM
Sige, I am free mostly After 3pm but better yet sa evening, after 7pm. Just PM me .Sa Green Meadows lang ako, bago ka makarating nang Don Bosco
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on Jul 24, 2006 at 11:46 AM
thanks kong alvin...will pm you pota available ku rin....thanks pu.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: slowhand on Jul 24, 2006 at 12:18 PM
alvin, thanks for your response to my question.

jpadua and gubs, appreciate your responses as well.

I didn't mean to start a "vs" debate, just wanted to ask specifically about the Toshiba. D*mn the list of HD-titles is starting to look better all the time... :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 24, 2006 at 03:08 PM
alvin, thanks for your response to my question.

jpadua and gubs, appreciate your responses as well.

I didn't mean to start a "vs" debate, just wanted to ask specifically about the Toshiba. D*mn the list of HD-titles is starting to look better all the time... :)

Yeah and pretty soon, Dual HD-DVD/BD-Ray rom drives will be out, benq already has a demonstration unit, pretty soon, they will be out and prices will drop, by that time, we can all have HD-DVD and BDrays playin in our HTPCs... by the Way WinDVD8 will support HD-DVD and BD-ray also. It's just a matter of time.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on Jul 24, 2006 at 07:16 PM
wow, advantage htpc dito, as theres no assurance na me lalabas na combo player... :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mheloy on Jul 24, 2006 at 08:41 PM
dagdag gastos ulit... HTPC...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: skylynx888 on Jul 24, 2006 at 09:33 PM
(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/DSC00132.b0c.JPG)

 kasama po ito sa videocard, my question is: are the red,green, blue sockets for component video outputs? if thats the case, will i just connect it directly to my rear projection component input? may configuration p bang dapat gawin? pardon my ignorance ;D ;D

hope you guys can help me out.....

my video card: Geforce 6600 256mb pci express.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Jul 24, 2006 at 11:42 PM
Hello Im not an expert.But i was just using that vga to component dongle for my 6600gt before I switched to vga to BNC pc input.First download the latest forceware the last i checked was 91.31. Also download nvtweak to enable hidden settings like refresh rate overide etc.Open nvtweak and enable all options just to be safe.Go to display settings advance mode.  click on the geforce 6600 tab and click on nv display settings ,click on enable dual view if your proj. is already connected through the component in.Then click on
no 2 display and then the advanced settings tab, there should be a change resolution or nvidia tv wizard to choose from.Choose correct output like 480p,720p,etc.or if the tv wizard comes out ,it lets you experiment with diff outputs until you get the right one.
this is only for dual display mode with one monitor and one hdtv.If you want one display just make the proj your primary display.and disconnect your other monitor.this may not be the best way but thats how I connected my pc.Hope this shortened explanation helps.
Gubs
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 25, 2006 at 01:53 AM
(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/DSC00132.b0c.JPG)

 kasama po ito sa videocard, my question is: are the red,green, blue sockets for component video outputs? if thats the case, will i just connect it directly to my rear projection component input? may configuration p bang dapat gawin? pardon my ignorance ;D ;D

hope you guys can help me out.....

my video card: Geforce 6600 256mb pci express.

Make sure you know kung ano kaya ng rear projection mo, kung 480i 480p 720p or 1080i
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: JedTanner on Jul 25, 2006 at 02:28 AM
@ skylynx888

This actually depends on the documentation of your Video Card. I suggest checking the manufacturer's website for documentations to give you more details on what those wires are for and if they are indeed component cables. Many manufacturers sometimes do not adhere to standards and may just mix those colors to distinguish one from another or as a separator and nothing more. Hope this helps too!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: skylynx888 on Jul 25, 2006 at 01:56 PM
to Gubs, ill download it, thanks.....

to jpadua, my rptv can handle 480p and 1080i, although i havent tried the 1080i yet......

to jedtanner, ill scan the manual again..... thanks

 btw, does this cable offer better picture quality as compared to vga to component?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jul 25, 2006 at 09:16 PM
Check this out... Anandtech built an HD-DVD HTPC using Nvidia Purevideo HD.

here are the specs..
CPU: Intel Pentium D 830
RAM: 1GB DDR2 533
Chipset: Intel 945G
Graphics: MSI 7600GT w/ HDCP
Display: Westinghouse LVM-42W2
HD-DVD Drive: Toshiba TS-L802
OS: Windows XP SP2
HD-DVD Player: CyberLink PowerDVD (for HD-DVD)

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2798&p=3

Interesting...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 26, 2006 at 08:10 AM
After reading the article, it seems that the Toshiba HD-a1 is the best HTPC there is. This model is actually a 2.5 Pentium 4 running on Linux. It has 1g ddr memory and a Hd dvd drive. At 499 US dollars, Toshiba is said to be loosing around 200 dollars per unit just to bring this model to the market. This player has a top level performance in DVD playback at 720p and awesome at 1080i with HD content. 1080p is not supported though as can be explained by the difficulty of delivering this resolution using a dedicated HTPC using current technology. If you can live with a boot time of a little more than a minute, then this model might be for you.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 27, 2006 at 11:17 PM
Hi here's my new HTPC set-up.

my rig in the middle.
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6499/s2300039hn9.jpg)


Close up with DIY front panel 4x20 LED Display via LPT port. Using frontview LCD manager software plugin for MCE.
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7500/s2300047zn3.jpg)


Here's another close up pics. BTW my case is also DIY using acrylic transparent & black glass.
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/596/s2300044wh7.jpg)


Using microsoft XP media center 2005. As of the moment im using just 21" T.V. as my secondary display.
Planning to hook it on DLP FPTV with 92" Wide screen manual pulldown soon.
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/175/s2300043dy6.jpg)


Specs:

Proc: Athlon A64 Venice core 3000+ 1800 (OC'ed to 2200)
MB:MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum s939
VC: NVdia FX 5500 256/128 AGP
Optical Drive: Lite on DVD writer
HDD: 1x160g SATA 3x40g PATA
Sound: Built in 8 channel. (upgrade soon)
memory: 1 gig DDR400

using LG Flatron wireless keyboard & mouse (RF)
Windows XP MCE 2005
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:24 AM
Cool rig bro!  Did you make it from scratch? Pwede ba magpacustom ng HTPC case sayo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 28, 2006 at 01:32 PM
Cool rig bro!  Did you make it from scratch? Pwede ba magpacustom ng HTPC case sayo?

Yes sir done this from scratch. Medyo konting effort lang hirap kc mag cut ng acrylic.
project ko lang to sir just for myself. Medyo wala rin kc ako oras para gumawa.  ;D Medyo matagal nga ito in the making kaya lang na pwersa ako gawin kc nabenta ko na dati kong shuttle XPC HTPC.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Jul 28, 2006 at 06:48 PM
Para hindi OT: I've been eyeing the Shuttle xpc SD11G5 which has a separate power brick that makes it near noise-free but still has a board that has all the current components such as the PCI-E (for graphics) but will only run using Pentium M processors (cool/energy efficient processors for laptops). An entire unit which was run to the max only consumed 200 watts plus change. It has an onboard 7.1 sounblaster live chip and only weighs 2.2 kgs barebone.

I have not read previous posts from this thread and I would like to know if there are owners here so I can solicit some reviews. Laptops are sexier and more appropriate with work but I believe when it comes to HTPC, they're useless.

SEMI-OT:  There are free HD sources out there which comes in the form of movie trailers which I truly love. My question is who among here have no problems playing 1080p version of these files? I have checked out the hardware requirements and I'm wondering if the specs are the minimum required or just geared for optimium performance. I mean dual core processors with speed of 3 Ghz is not that mainstream yet. Which is better Quicktime HD or Divx HD?

BTW anyone who wishes to upgrade to quicktime 7 pro for free just PM me ;) so u can save QT trailers to your hard drive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Aug 08, 2006 at 02:10 PM
MSI in the Lead
HDMI ATC Granted MSI the World's First VGA HDMI  Certification

 
MSI has successfully passed the inspection test by HDMI ATC in July 2006 and became the world's first certification for HDMI VGA card. To keep our pace of cutting-edge technology, MSI has been implementing extreme research and development abilities to establish the HDMI compatibility in MSI VGA cards that extend a wider scenario of PC usages.

HDMI, the latest audio/video interface standard with only one cable required , is able to transmit high resolution digital video and 7.1 surround-sound audio quality. For bringing users consistent experience, HDMI Workshop has regulated a guideline for this latest standard to ensure all HDMI-compliant equipment is compatible each other.

Among numerous VGA card manufactures, MSI received the first certification with the out performance RD ability that has been continuously contributing to the latest, superior, and stable products to users on the fast-moving technology filed.

MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus
(http://www.msi.com.tw/images/news_img/VGAHDMI.jpg)

MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus is the first VGA card equipped with the HDMI technology today. Along with this simple connectivity, the audio/video signals on PC will be correspondingly transmitted to LCD or Plasma TV for users. In addition, MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus has the solid and powerful 3D engine technology that is smoothly complaint to the most 3D games available on the market nowadays.

By the exclusive D.O.T. II over clocking technology, MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus will dynamically adjust the accordance of power-consumption and performance. Users will also enjoy the astonishing visual reality and HD-audio contributed from MSI's 3D performance and HDMI technology through a home theater PC.
 



From: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/newsrelease/news_page.php?UID=487
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Aug 08, 2006 at 08:05 PM
MSI in the Lead
HDMI ATC Granted MSI the World's First VGA HDMI  Certification

 
MSI has successfully passed the inspection test by HDMI ATC in July 2006 and became the world's first certification for HDMI VGA card. To keep our pace of cutting-edge technology, MSI has been implementing extreme research and development abilities to establish the HDMI compatibility in MSI VGA cards that extend a wider scenario of PC usages.

HDMI, the latest audio/video interface standard with only one cable required , is able to transmit high resolution digital video and 7.1 surround-sound audio quality. For bringing users consistent experience, HDMI Workshop has regulated a guideline for this latest standard to ensure all HDMI-compliant equipment is compatible each other.

Among numerous VGA card manufactures, MSI received the first certification with the out performance RD ability that has been continuously contributing to the latest, superior, and stable products to users on the fast-moving technology filed.

MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus is the first VGA card equipped with the HDMI technology today. Along with this simple connectivity, the audio/video signals on PC will be correspondingly transmitted to LCD or Plasma TV for users. In addition, MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus has the solid and powerful 3D engine technology that is smoothly complaint to the most 3D games available on the market nowadays.

By the exclusive D.O.T. II over clocking technology, MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus will dynamically adjust the accordance of power-consumption and performance. Users will also enjoy the astonishing visual reality and HD-audio contributed from MSI's 3D performance and HDMI technology through a home theater PC.
 



From: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/newsrelease/news_page.php?UID=487

I was wondering if how much is the selling price for this VC ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Aug 08, 2006 at 10:30 PM
Anybody know what apps can playback .ts (transport stream) file?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 09, 2006 at 04:25 AM
Anybody know what apps can playback .ts (transport stream) file?

Download Zoomplayer (free) from inmatrix.com
Install nvidia decoders (they can decode .TS files)
You can also try HDTVpump (google it) you can play .TS files with that too.

Nvidia does play .TS files pretty well, I just installed Zoomplayer and the nvidia codecs and it played the .TS files

Hope this helps.

Jay
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: number1 on Aug 09, 2006 at 05:19 PM
Download Zoomplayer (free) from inmatrix.com
Install nvidia decoders (they can decode .TS files)
You can also try HDTVpump (google it) you can play .TS files with that too.

Nvidia does play .TS files pretty well, I just installed Zoomplayer and the nvidia codecs and it played the .TS files

Hope this helps.

Jay
Thanks! My video card is non-Nvidia but just a GeCube Radeon 9550 128MB. I hope it works. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 10, 2006 at 02:00 AM
Thanks! My video card is non-Nvidia but just a GeCube Radeon 9550 128MB. I hope it works. 

The nvidia decoder is just a decoder and should work with your radeon, only special pure video enhancements are present if you are using an nvidia card.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Aug 10, 2006 at 12:31 PM

I don't see the balance shifting anytime soon because HTPC's are such a small segment of the PC market. nvidia and ATI are much more focused on gaming performance than something like judder reduction. While at the other end VP's have gained steam and are including more features and improved performance specifically for HT.


The situation will get better, soon...


Chicago (IL) - Games may not be the only applications anymore that create an incentive for buying a faster graphics card. HD DVD and Blu-ray videos require enormous processing power to decode codecs and overwhelm virtually all CPUs available today. So, how much does it take to make HD look good on a PC screen? TG Daily got a first impression at an exclusive meeting with Nvidia.

http://www.denguru.com/2006/07/28/nvidia_hdcp_graphics_card_presentation/index.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Aug 10, 2006 at 06:35 PM
I believe the trend (or revolution, if you will) of moving towards HTPC's has already started. Video/graphics card engineers and manufacturers have already realized the potential of PC-based entertainment systems for quite some time as evidenced by inclusion of HD video-specific features along with a myriad of video output choices (DVI/HDMI, component, etc.).

Personally, I've been using an HTPC mainly as a media server and HD video playback system married to a 720p projector, a rear projection HDTV, an AV receiver and some decent speakers. I also have quite a small collection of HD videos/movies (from 720 to 1080p) in formats ranging from .TS, HD XviD, HD DivX, HD WMV, HD Matroska, etc. and I've never had any problems playing them back on my pretty average HTPC setup.

My HTPC rig:

- P4 3.0 GHz Intel Processor
- 6600 256MB nVidia graphics card
- 8.1 channel on-board sound processor
- 2 x 200GB SATA hard drives
- 16x multi-form CD/DVD rewriter
- 550w HEC WinPower power supply
- 1kva APC UPS
- RF wireless keyboard with built-in touchpad (my favorite accessory)
- 19" LCD monitor acting as secondary display
- true 1.5mbps SkyDSL connection
- Xyxel X-550 MIMO-G Wi-Fi router

At present, I think HTPC usage varies slightly among us enthusiasts. Some lean more on integrating cable TV programming and scheduled recording and upscaling DVD videos with their rigs. Some may have a more obscure setup like mine, where my HTPC also acts as a "24/7 always on" media/download server and test server (for my work). This is also why the long boot time is never an issue with me. And being able to readily surf or do some work on your big screen while laying on the sofa is just very convenient.

What I don't see happening soon (at least not for the next couple of years or so) is having a lot of HD DVD or Blu-ray movies readily available. Although there are already quite a few HD titles out there, the HTPC is the next best thing with all the HD movies (in already existing/established formats) floating all around. Where and how do I get my HD movies? ;) They're everywhere. You just need to know how to find them. For instance, if you've got friends abroad and are blessed with HDTV programming and are able to record them, then you're blessed as well. Another source is the most obvious one... P2P. That is, if you want to experience HD "now" (not to encourage piracy).

For now, I'm just waiting for HD DVD / Blu-ray optical drives to go into the mainstream PC market (a.k.a. become more practically affordable) and proliferation of "more" legit HD titles to choose from and simply upgrade my HTPC's optical drive. The HD DVD and Blu-ray format war is yet another annoying story, but I won't be surprised if a freaky genius out there finds a way to make a universal (dual format) HD optical drive. The under $500 Linux-based Toshiba HD A1 discussed here earlier is also a great alternative for those who want to simplify their life and skip the HTPC shopping/assembly/setup.

Eventually, everything will be PC-based and modular... we just add which components we need or as better components come out. Bottomline... eternal upgrades and discontentment  >:( :D ;D

Just a lot of my 2 cents. Haven't been logging on to PDVD for a while, so bumabawi lang ako ;)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 10, 2006 at 08:33 PM
Is it true that presently, there are no Video cards out there that can support playback of hd dvd nor blu-ray because of the lack of HDCP chips?

Is it wise then not to purchase any expensive vcards out there because there will be ones with the hdcp chips on the last quarter?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Aug 11, 2006 at 05:40 AM
A few interesting articles that might answer your queston:

http://www.behardware.com/articles/603-1/hdcp-the-graphic-card-and-monitor-nightmare.html

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_nvidia_hdcp_support/

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=16330

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdtv/hdcpcompliant-graphics-cards-jumped-the-gun-155108.php

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6461371.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Aug 11, 2006 at 08:01 AM
Is it true that presently, there are no Video cards out there that can support playback of hd dvd nor blu-ray because of the lack of HDCP chips?

Is it wise then not to purchase any expensive vcards out there because there will be ones with the hdcp chips on the last quarter?

This is not so.

PC video cards can play 720p and 1080p which is the video resolution of high definition video.

The question is, how would an HTPC handle copy protection of HD DVD (DRM)?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 11, 2006 at 06:09 PM
This is not so.

PC video cards can play 720p and 1080p which is the video resolution of high definition video.

The question is, how would an HTPC handle copy protection of HD DVD (DRM)?

Actually in the Case of HDCP enabled cards, this is a requirement of windows vista so that the video card can send to HD signal to your TV.  If your video card does not have HDCP, vista will downsize the video to 480p.  With XP however, you can play HD on a HDTV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 11, 2006 at 10:35 PM
Quote
If your video card does not have HDCP, vista will downsize the video to 480p.

Thus diminishing resolution to a quarter of its full potential...what a waste.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Ice Storm on Aug 13, 2006 at 07:00 PM
What app upsamples or upscales DVDs or any video source to 720p or 1080i?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Aug 14, 2006 at 11:35 AM
What app upsamples or upscales DVDs or any video source to 720p or 1080i?

You can use your video card tool to make custom resolution to 1080i or 720p. Or a program likw PowerStrip.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 14, 2006 at 12:22 PM
What app upsamples or upscales DVDs or any video source to 720p or 1080i?

As long as your video card is outputting a higher resolution like 1280x720 or 1920x1080 you are already upsampling.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Kato on Aug 16, 2006 at 09:39 AM
Hi fellow HTPC enthusiasts, just a few questions:

1. Any suggestions on which TV tuner/PVR card to get? Is Hauppage still a good brand nowadays?

2. Are there still any issues regarding external tuners/PVR's? A few years ago, there were some USB bottleneck issues.

3. I'm currently subscribed to Skycable Gold, but plan on upgrading to a Skycable Platinum account due to better quality. My only gripe is... since the Platinum subscription is digital, I would need to get an addressable box for each TV (or tuner). This means no more cable splitters, PIP/POP, etc. unless I spend more for extra boxes. How then will this impact existing owners of tuners/PVR's?

Thanks :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 17, 2006 at 04:24 AM
Hi fellow HTPC enthusiasts, just a few questions:

1. Any suggestions on which TV tuner/PVR card to get? Is Hauppage still a good brand nowadays?

2. Are there still any issues regarding external tuners/PVR's? A few years ago, there were some USB bottleneck issues.

3. I'm currently subscribed to Skycable Gold, but plan on upgrading to a Skycable Platinum account due to better quality. My only gripe is... since the Platinum subscription is digital, I would need to get an addressable box for each TV (or tuner). This means no more cable splitters, PIP/POP, etc. unless I spend more for extra boxes. How then will this impact existing owners of tuners/PVR's?

Thanks :)



If you plan to use digital  you need a DVB Tuner card.  Hauppage is still a good brand.  For analog The ATI theater550 or the Nvidia Dual tuner, Hauppage is still good too with analog PVR 150.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:21 AM
J,

Quick question, is there a reasonable USB type PVR / Cable Tuner that anyone has much success with ?

I've seen LEADTEK branded ones but not sure if they're okay...

-jackryan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Aug 17, 2006 at 11:52 AM
J,

Quick question, is there a reasonable USB type PVR / Cable Tuner that anyone has much success with ?

I've seen LEADTEK branded ones but not sure if they're okay...

-jackryan

Leadtek is good, but they rely on their own software.  I havent seen one which works with other software like MCE.  The only leadtek product that is compatible with MCE is the PVR2000 or for digital broadcast the Leadtek USB DTV dongle.

There a product by adaptec, thats MCE compatible, comes with an MCE remote too.  Its a USB dual input tuner.
http://www.everythingusb.com/adaptec_dual_tv_tuner_for_windows_xp_mce_2005.html
Can't say its available here though
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Miguel^ on Aug 17, 2006 at 01:03 PM
hey guys saan nakakabili ng ganitong klasing cable?  Tumingin tingin narin ako sa ace, diy, sm wala eh. 

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c253/jackbowow/tvout2.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c253/jackbowow/tvout1.jpg)

Wala kasing kasamang ganyan ung inno 6600 256mb ko and gusto ko subukan ang HTPC through component cable. 

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 18, 2006 at 10:22 AM
tipidpc.com
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Aug 19, 2006 at 09:18 AM
Yup, try mo sa tipidpc, malamang meron nyan.

mdyo off the topic po ito mga sir.
please visit www.pinoyreklamo.com     ----> complaint center of the philippines
this site is advertised on tipidpc.


Thanks and peace.
boss_onie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 19, 2006 at 03:28 PM
kaya lang down tpc ngayon :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: boss_onie on Aug 20, 2006 at 02:34 AM
its now up. check mo na. :) both sites :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rich888 on Aug 27, 2006 at 12:06 PM
MY HTPC

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/rch888/DSCF1495-1.jpg)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/rch888/DSCF1485.jpg)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/rch888/DSCF1492.jpg)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/rch888/DSCF1486.jpg)

AMD Athlon 3000+
2 gb memory
klipsch pro media 2.1
m-audio revolution 7.1
hauppauge tv tuner
windows media center
32" LCD/HDTV  :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Aug 27, 2006 at 12:22 PM
Nice pics...

what is the brand of your LCD monitor ? How much did you get it for ?

Also, for the TV tuner what is the brand and model ? At what price did you get it and where ?

Lastly, do you have pics of your set-up with cable tuner enabled... just wanted to see if (hope you don't mind) how the tuner fares with local cable providers...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rich888 on Aug 27, 2006 at 12:36 PM
Nice pics...

what is the brand of your LCD monitor ? How much did you get it for ?

Also, for the TV tuner what is the brand and model ? At what price did you get it and where ?

Lastly, do you have pics of your set-up with cable tuner enabled... just wanted to see if (hope you don't mind) how the tuner fares with local cable providers...

Hi jackyryan actually im selling plasma and lcd tv's just private message me if your interested so we can demo the unit

The Tv Tuner for my pc is hauppauge brand ordered it through the internet but the lcd already has a built in tv tuner

I've attached some sample pics my provider is skycable

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/rch888/lcdtest01.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kulapo_7 on Sep 05, 2006 at 10:13 AM
guys bumili kasi ako ng samsung la32r71, pede ko po ba gamitin dvi to hdmi cable?malaki ba difference compare sa vga cable?thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 05, 2006 at 10:32 AM
Using a sony HDMI DVD payer vs. VGA cable from my ordinary PC (no special video cards -FX5200) on my 32" Hitachi LCD TV, I noticed that the VGA looked better. You can watch closer and the pixelations are less obvious
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Sep 05, 2006 at 02:19 PM
guys bumili kasi ako ng samsung la32r71, pede ko po ba gamitin dvi to hdmi cable?malaki ba difference compare sa vga cable?thanks!

Actually di masyadong malayo yung difference, but since you are using DVI, your pc will use the most compatible and correct video frequency, so you get a good picture.  With VGA you just have to do it manually.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Sep 30, 2006 at 08:50 PM
Built my bro a desktop pc using the slowest pentium d, ecs board's onboard video (Shared 64 MB, Intel), PQI 256 mb Ram DDR2 and I was surprised that it played Quicktime 1080p teaser trailer of Curse of the Golden Flower effortlessly!

No Avivo, No Pure video!

 ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bote on Oct 01, 2006 at 10:59 PM
Hi Jpadua. I have downloaded Zoomplayer and I find it really superior to PowerDVD. My problem is I downloaded the freeware and I can't seem to make it run without being connected to the internet. What could I be doing wrong. Thanks in advance for any input.

Eddie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Oct 02, 2006 at 12:23 PM
Guys,

I am planning to go HTPC. Since I am just starting, what is the easy and cheap way to connect computer video output to my composite (RCA) input of my TV?

Thanks.

LOuie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ProtegeManiac on Oct 02, 2006 at 02:51 PM
I am planning to go HTPC. Since I am just starting, what is the easy and cheap way to connect computer video output to my composite (RCA) input of my TV?

afaik, a video card with rca output. i think most cards, especially high-performance units, have them nowadays.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Oct 03, 2006 at 11:30 AM
Wala ng gumagamit ng RCA. Old cards uses S-Video the least. Presently DVI na and HDMI in the near future. There some TVs (Japan surplus) with VGA connection.

Wala ng RCA but if you insist use break-out box or Vcards na sobrang obsolete na.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Oct 23, 2006 at 10:38 AM
Wala ng gumagamit ng RCA. Old cards uses S-Video the least. Presently DVI na and HDMI in the near future. There some TVs (Japan surplus) with VGA connection.

Wala ng RCA but if you insist use break-out box or Vcards na sobrang obsolete na.

Yep, what I got was a motherboard with TV-OUT.  DFI has one (socket 939) +  AMD 3700+ CPU in a Focus Nemesis casing.   Two channel output only via AV-710 soundcard.

Since I am a two channel only diehard, what software will you recommend to extract the DVD audio into wav file--similar to the quality of EAC extraction of CD-audio?

Thank you.

Louie



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Oct 24, 2006 at 09:24 PM
share ko lang po :).

cheap second hand  PC parts from tipidPC. 

HTPC for my kids

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/LCD.jpg)[/img]

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/screenshot.jpg)[/img]

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/bryan1.jpg)[/img]


details:

27" widescreen LCD
Shuttle XPC Athlon XP2000+
ATI 9200 128mb AGP
512 X 2 PC2100 memory
80 gig HD
Lite-On DVD drive
A4tech wireless KB/mouse
Labtec 2.1 speakers
sigma PC table 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Oct 24, 2006 at 09:29 PM
share ko lang po :).

cheap second hand  PC parts from tipidPC. 

HTPC for my kids

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/LCD.jpg)[/img]

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/screenshot.jpg)[/img]

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/bryan1.jpg)[/img]


details:

27" widescreen LCD
Shuttle XPC Athlon XP2000+
ATI 9200 128mb AGP
512 X 2 PC2100 memory
80 gig HD
Lite-On DVD drive
A4tech wireless KB/mouse
Labtec 2.1 speakers
sigma PC table 

Wow, how much did you get that Shuttle XPC and the widescreen 27" widescreen LCD (what brand and model, btw...) ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Oct 24, 2006 at 09:46 PM
sir,

yung 27"LCD ay P16,150. walang brand na naka-indicate. model lang at Made in Korea. designed for wall mounting kaya wala siya stand. na-post ito more than a month ago.  

yung Shuttle XPC nakuha ko ito ng P9,000 , kaya lang in-upgrade ko kasi ang orig package nya eh:
Athlon XP2000+
256 MB RAM PC2700
40gig HD
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mm2002 on Oct 24, 2006 at 10:53 PM
Sir san available yung LCD? can u give us the specs? Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Oct 24, 2006 at 11:14 PM
Sir san available yung LCD? can u give us the specs? Thanks

sir, sorry to inform , sold out na po ito. pero sa bilis nitomg naubos malamang na mag parating uli yung seller. check nyo lang from time to time sa tipidPC.

hind ko na matandaan yung ibang specs but it has 220volt input voltage, VGA input socket  ;D. screen resolution is best viewed at 1280 X 768
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Oct 25, 2006 at 08:18 AM
Just upgraded my HTPC with this case:

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Desktop/D_PC-880.htm

I use to have the classic PC60 Lian Li case (upright tower).

I will post pix soon.

My setup consists of:

MSI P4N SLI motherboard
3 GHz Pentium IV
1GB RAM
2 pcs 180 GB Seagate SATA
MSI NX6600GT graphics card (single card only, soon will be using 2 cards for SLI)
Sony DVD burner
Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard
Dlink USB wireless lan
Toslink cable going to the AVR

For monitor, I use a 32" Samsung LCD and Infocus projector using the VGA port.

For AVR am currently using a Denon 1804 driving Acoustic Research S40 fronts and center, and Wharfedale surrounds.

Software: Zoom Player with all the filters and tweaks, Xlobby for Music.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Oct 25, 2006 at 07:28 PM
Just upgraded my HTPC with this case:

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Desktop/D_PC-880.htm


sir alexg,

saan nyo po nyo nabili yung lian-li desktop case? and magkano, if ok with you.  ty po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Oct 25, 2006 at 11:53 PM
sir, sorry to inform , sold out na po ito. pero sa bilis nitomg naubos malamang na mag parating uli yung seller. check nyo lang from time to time sa tipidPC.

hind ko na matandaan yung ibang specs but it has 220volt input voltage, VGA input socket  ;D. screen resolution is best viewed at 1280 X 768

can't find the post... what is the name of the seller?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Oct 26, 2006 at 07:38 AM
can't find the post... what is the name of the seller?

pcmaster4 ang name nung seller sa tipidpc. you can also check their site - www.openpinoy.com
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Oct 26, 2006 at 07:53 AM
sir alexg,

saan nyo po nyo nabili yung lian-li desktop case? and magkano, if ok with you.  ty po

I ordered it from Computer Farm (Alabang Filinvest). Cost is 7.5K, am sure you might find a better deal than that. If Alabang is too far, I believe you can order it from villman. (www.villman.com.ph). HTH
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Oct 26, 2006 at 07:53 AM
I have downloaded Zoomplayer and I find it really superior to PowerDVD. My problem is I downloaded the freeware and I can't seem to make it run without being connected to the internet. What could I be doing wrong. Thanks in advance for any input.

Eddie

you got PM :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gbtormes16 on Oct 28, 2006 at 09:43 AM
share ko lang..

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p42/gbtormes16/aoc193fw.jpg)

AMD Athlon 64 XP 3000+
Inno3D 6600 256 MB
2 X 512 MB PC 333 Kingston
AOC 193fw 19" widescreen monitor
Creative SBS 580 5.1 speaker

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mheloy on Nov 06, 2006 at 03:58 PM
newbie question.

may Video card ba na pang WideScreen? yung support resolution nya is Widescreen?
or lahat ng video card pwede Full Screen and Wide Screen? gagamit na lang ng powerstrip for the correct resolution?

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: drachx on Nov 06, 2006 at 04:53 PM
hi guys,
i have my 17" mag, altek lansing, asus dvd

is it possible to connect any avr? if yes how can i connect this ?

im planning to get avr kasi. bago lng me when ito comes to receiver.
thanks guys.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: shotgun on Nov 06, 2006 at 05:37 PM
newbie question.

may Video card ba na pang WideScreen? yung support resolution nya is Widescreen?
or lahat ng video card pwede Full Screen and Wide Screen? gagamit na lang ng powerstrip for the correct resolution?

Thanks

Most if not all new video cards support widescreen. For older ones, an updated driver should do the trick.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mheloy on Nov 06, 2006 at 10:37 PM
Most if not all new video cards support widescreen. For older ones, an updated driver should do the trick.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aldrinpsx on Nov 15, 2006 at 02:38 PM
Update  lang po.. after 3 yrs...nag retire na compaq ko.. ;D ;D ;D

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Gateway GT5220 running on media center 05 edition(Free Vista upgrade by mail)
AMD Athlon 64 X2
SAPPHIRE 100156L Radeon X1600PRO 256MB 128-bit GDDR3  Overclocked Edition
ATI X1600 512MB PCI express
Upgraded to Startech ATX12V 2.01 550Watts Power Supply.
WD My book External 250G
19" Samsung Syncmaster LCDTV Monitor


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DVI/1440 x 900


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480p /PS2 Socom Combined Assault/Online game.

peace and blessing!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aldrinpsx on Nov 29, 2006 at 04:58 AM
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Upgrade to ATI X1600 512MB PCI DDR2 PCI express.


peace and blessing!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mheloy on Dec 02, 2006 at 07:35 PM
Hi,

I'm planning to buy this mobo. my question is, does this support 720p (1280 x 720) using component?

Thanks

You guys got me thinking into going to HTPC.

Planning to start with this:

DFI ATI RS482 Infinity mATX Socket 939 Motherboard
Features:

    *A finest solution for PC's rich media
    *AMD Athlon 64 X2 CPU(Socket 939)
    *ATI Radeon Xpress 200 RS482 Chipset
    *Integrated ATI Radeon X300 GPU
    *FSB 2000MTps & Dual-Channels DDR400 memory
    *TV-out(HDTV supports)/ VGA/ DVI-D output device,
    the best DVD playback experience
    *Gigabit PCI LAN & 4 x SATA
    *8channels High definition Audio
    *8 x USB2.0 ports

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_spec_details_r_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=4497&CATEGORY_TYPE=LP&SITE=US

Please comment.

Thanks.

Louie


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 03, 2006 at 02:24 PM
Hi,

I'm planning to buy this mobo. my question is, does this support 720p (1280 x 720) using component?

Thanks


http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/articles/show/dfi_rs482_infinity_review/h264
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Dec 03, 2006 at 08:59 PM
Am trying to re-arrange my setup and I need longer VGA cable (am using D15 to D15).

Where can you get a 5 meter VGA cable?

Thanks.

Just upgraded my HTPC with this case:

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Desktop/D_PC-880.htm

I use to have the classic PC60 Lian Li case (upright tower).

I will post pix soon.

My setup consists of:

MSI P4N SLI motherboard
3 GHz Pentium IV
1GB RAM
2 pcs 180 GB Seagate SATA
MSI NX6600GT graphics card (single card only, soon will be using 2 cards for SLI)
Sony DVD burner
Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard
Dlink USB wireless lan
Toslink cable going to the AVR

For monitor, I use a 32" Samsung LCD and Infocus projector using the VGA port.

For AVR am currently using a Denon 1804 driving Acoustic Research S40 fronts and center, and Wharfedale surrounds.

Software: Zoom Player with all the filters and tweaks, Xlobby for Music.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mheloy on Dec 04, 2006 at 02:41 PM
http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/articles/show/dfi_rs482_infinity_review/h264

Hi sir,

from this review is says that is supports 720p and 1080i. pero baka via DVI connection ito.
pag ganito ba it means via component 720 and 1080i din?

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Dec 04, 2006 at 09:47 PM
Am trying to re-arrange my setup and I need longer VGA cable (am using D15 to D15).

Where can you get a 5 meter VGA cable?

Thanks.



try mo sir itong tipidPC seller http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=528128.

kung alam ko lang noon na meron nito locally eh hindi na ko nag DIY. :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 04, 2006 at 11:16 PM
Punta kayo ng Gilmore there is even a 10 meter vga cable available for 500 huwag nyo lang ako ubusan ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 04, 2006 at 11:22 PM
Hi sir,

from this review is says that is supports 720p and 1080i. pero baka via DVI connection ito.
pag ganito ba it means via component 720 and 1080i din?

Thanks

from what I know, it depends on the video chip embedded on the mobo and not dependent on how you source it out to your monitor. I believe even the plain vga out can trans out any hd source yun nga lang analog instead of dvi and hdmi which are digital.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 05, 2006 at 11:21 AM
Try to get a line conditioner for your HTPC setup. Here is a SMS from a satisfied BADA Line Conditioner user who bought one for his PC and audio system:

" Ok a. I heard more background instruments.. Certain details that were lost and very quiet background. My pc seems even zipier and so w/ internet. All plugged in. "

Next SMS "the grains in my LCD are also not as obvious as before."

click (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=59470.0)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: neil3504 on Dec 07, 2006 at 02:40 AM
My setup

MSI 945p Platinum
P4 3.2GHz HT
2GB RAM 533MHz configured for Dual Channel
GeCube RADEON X800GT GDDR3 256MB PCI-E HD Ready
Samsung 225BW LCD
Sony DVD Writer
LG DVD-ROM
Logitech Z-5500 System (connected to the PC via optical cable)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 07, 2006 at 02:06 PM
Am trying to re-arrange my setup and I need longer VGA cable (am using D15 to D15).

Where can you get a 5 meter VGA cable?

Thanks.



Sir I have an extra brand new Tripplite 15 foot VGA extension cable which you might be interested in.  Just contact me at 09175298004. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Dec 07, 2006 at 02:38 PM
Sir I have an extra brand new Tripplite 15 foot VGA extension cable which you might be interested in.  Just contact me at 09175298004. 

Thanks, I already ordered one from RS Philippines.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: neil3504 on Dec 10, 2006 at 11:52 PM
Hi Guys,

Just a question.. Im using a 22 inch widescreen LCD with resolution of 1680x1050, my video card is GeCube RADEON X800GT. I was wondering if my setup is already achieving HD Resolutions (1080i), if not, what should I do to achieve this?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:40 PM
a little help please - my new pc:

SAGE AMD ATHLON 64 3500+, ALL BLACK
• AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor, socket AM2
• ASUS M2V-TVM Motherboard w/ built-in Audio, Video & LAN
(SATA ready; AM2 133; U.ATX 2000; VIA K8M990; 2 PCI ; 1 PCI-EX; 2x DDR2, max 2GB; Realtek AL655 6-channel CODEC; 10/100 LAN; Dual Channel Architecture)
• Kingston 1GB DDR2 PC533 Memory
• Seagate 250GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
• Liteon 16X DVDRW Drive
• GeForce 7300GT 128MB/128-bit PCI-Express Video Card
• ATX Casing w/ 400watts Power Supply
• PS/2 keyboard & Mouse
• 56K Internal Modem
• Extra Chassis Fan

what programs do i need to use it as a htpc with a panasonic ae900 projector?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Dec 14, 2006 at 04:02 PM
I am using Zoom Player, with good results.

Google zoom player, including ffdshow and other filters and read up on how to set it up, you will be amazed how good the picture quality is incluidng upsampling from regular DVD resolution to HD resolution.

Also, try to surf around avsforum.com for their "how-to" posts on HTPC.

Good luck.

a little help please - my new pc:

SAGE AMD ATHLON 64 3500+, ALL BLACK
• AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor, socket AM2
• ASUS M2V-TVM Motherboard w/ built-in Audio, Video & LAN
(SATA ready; AM2 133; U.ATX 2000; VIA K8M990; 2 PCI ; 1 PCI-EX; 2x DDR2, max 2GB; Realtek AL655 6-channel CODEC; 10/100 LAN; Dual Channel Architecture)
• Kingston 1GB DDR2 PC533 Memory
• Seagate 250GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
• Liteon 16X DVDRW Drive
• GeForce 7300GT 128MB/128-bit PCI-Express Video Card
• ATX Casing w/ 400watts Power Supply
• PS/2 keyboard & Mouse
• 56K Internal Modem
• Extra Chassis Fan

what programs do i need to use it as a htpc with a panasonic ae900 projector?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alexg on Dec 14, 2006 at 04:04 PM
Where can one get a nice PC remote control locally?

Am currently using a Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard and it consumes batteries fast!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Dec 15, 2006 at 02:01 PM
I suggest you check  the Tv tuners for PC's as most come w/ remote ,

Or use a rechargeble battery for your logitech .. The mouse would last for 3 weeks w/ a 2100mah rechargeble, for the keyboards regular alkaline can last up to a year....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 16, 2006 at 08:10 AM
question - the first time i played a video on my pc the color was very red, was able to fix it by clicking something.

last night i connected my pc to the projector via hdmi, the colors were correct but when i played a video, the colors were red again. anyone know what i should do?

result is the same for both powerdvd and zoom player

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 17, 2006 at 11:23 AM
question - the first time i played a video on my pc the color was very red, was able to fix it by clicking something.

last night i connected my pc to the projector via hdmi, the colors were correct but when i played a video, the colors were red again. anyone know what i should do?

result is the same for both powerdvd and zoom player

thanks

Check your cable.  I had a problem with colors also before with my pj hooked to a PC.  The cable was defective and when I changed it to a better one, colors were corrected and accurate.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 18, 2006 at 10:07 AM
Check your cable. I had a problem with colors also before with my pj hooked to a PC. The cable was defective and when I changed it to a better one, colors were corrected and accurate. ;D

thanks Sir - but the cable is ok. PC function and picture viewing shows the correct colors. But when i play a video (through Zoom or powerdvd) the colors are reddish
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Gubs on Dec 18, 2006 at 12:54 PM
@iceman90a

I also get reddish tones when using overlay mode using powerdvd also blacks are burnt.I click enable vmr in the Nvidia control panel (classic) Video overlay tab.This corrects the colors and has a wider dynamic range where blacks have more detail.
Hope this helps.

My setup.
Intel core 2 duo 6300 Allendale@300 x 7 2.10
Asrock 775 dual-Vsta
1 Gig ddr1
Inno3d 7600gst @600/1600
Vga to 5 bnc cable to Sony Kv-HR34M61
Audigy 4 spdif out to reciever.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: audibleillusions on Dec 18, 2006 at 03:28 PM
question - the first time i played a video on my pc the color was very red, was able to fix it by clicking something.

last night i connected my pc to the projector via hdmi, the colors were correct but when i played a video, the colors were red again. anyone know what i should do?

result is the same for both powerdvd and zoom player

thanks

gaano kahaba ang hdmi mo?
or configure your video card to 720p or 1080i
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 18, 2006 at 05:24 PM
gaano kahaba ang hdmi mo?
or configure your video card to 720p or 1080i

15ft Sir - how do I configure the video card?

Quote
@iceman90a

I also get reddish tones when using overlay mode using powerdvd also blacks are burnt.I click enable vmr in the Nvidia control panel (classic) Video overlay tab.This corrects the colors and has a wider dynamic range where blacks have more detail.
Hope this helps.

will try this later - thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Daemon_Seraphim on Dec 23, 2006 at 05:01 PM
Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @stock.
Gigabyte DQ6 motherboard
Corsair 1 x 1 GB RAM DDR2 667 Value Select
Seagate 160 GB SATA 8MB Cache
HEC Winpower 550AB PSU
Samsung 19" 940 BW widescreen
Palit Geforce 7950GT 512MB
Logitech Keyboard/Mouse
Logitech z640 5.1 --- way back in 2003 pa.
Linksys WRT54G -- purchased last year.

Sirs i havent had the time to read the whole thread? Can i make my setup an HTPC setup. Where do i start ?
Do I need additional hardware? I only have a standard JVC 21" Standard Def TV
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: schlamm on Dec 27, 2006 at 03:33 AM
Updated my previous setup:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
Intel DG965RY Motherboard
XFX GeForce 7900GS 480M Edition
2x1GB Corsair Value Select DDR2-667
80GB Seagate SATA
200GB Seagate PATA (converted to SATA)
250GB Seagate SATA2
Sony DVDRW DRU-810A
Generic 500W PSU and...
HEC PowerOp 475W PSU
Cooler Master Stacker casing <-- a bit taller than the B&W 602 S3
Creative Audigy 2ZS
Creative Megaworks 550 5.1 <-- selling this and replace with B&W 602 S3
Linksys WRT54G router
Genius Luxemate KB <-- planning to replace with a Logitech S150 cordless KB
Logitech optical mouse <-- planning to replace with a Logitech V200 cordless
17" ADI Microscan CRT <-- planning to replace with a Viewsonic 19" LCD or better

When I sell my speakers I will be replacing my sound system with an Onkyo amp. I just need that extra cash to buy those B&W and Onkyo from this speakers.

If all goes well according to plan, I would be very satisfied with this setup and finish completing my sound system to 5.1 since my current plans for the audio department is 2.0-channel only.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gbtormes16 on Feb 07, 2007 at 10:30 PM
my htpc set up:
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p42/gbtormes16/pc6.jpg)
connected to Samsung 32S71B @ 1360 X 768p
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p42/gbtormes16/ht5.jpg)

peace!  ;D


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Feb 14, 2007 at 10:48 PM
My HTPC components, for my secondary setup (bedroom):

E6300 Core 2 Duo
original ATI Radeon X700 256MB  (I prefer nVidia, but I got this for free)
512 MB DDR2
Asus P5VD2-MX  (Micro ATX Casing)
Asus DVD rom drive
2pcs 80GB IDE HDD
1pcs 250GB SATA HDD
Enermax 450W power supply

I use to fool around with powerstrip, zoomplayer, etc... but was too
much of hassle with my Asus L5800 2.7GHz, 512MB laptop.

Now I go for keeping it simple:  I just use PowerDVD and output via dual-display mode VGA to a 40" LCD Samsung (LA40R71B) TV at 1024x768p or sometimes 1360x768p @ 60Hz.  For audio, I use a plain stereo connection from the PC audio out to the TV audio in.
I retain a DVI connection to a 17" AOC LCD screen.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: scoob on Feb 15, 2007 at 12:14 AM
Hi

Need help.

I have an NVIDIA GFORCE 7600GS connect to a Samsung LCD TV via VGA.  My problem is the picture does not fit the screen (res 1260x768).  There is a thin (about 1cm or less) black line on the left and the right side is a bit cropped.  Parang naka usog sa right yung picture.

I tried to adjust it and move the screen a little to the left but there appears some glare on the left side as thin as the black line before.

What do you think is the best solution to this.

TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gbtormes16 on Feb 15, 2007 at 08:35 AM
Hi

Need help.

I have an NVIDIA GFORCE 7600GS connect to a Samsung LCD TV via VGA.  My problem is the picture does not fit the screen (res 1260x768).  There is a thin (about 1cm or less) black line on the left and the right side is a bit cropped.  Parang naka usog sa right yung picture.

I tried to adjust it and move the screen a little to the left but there appears some glare on the left side as thin as the black line before.

What do you think is the best solution to this.

TIA

are you referring to the picture during dvd playback?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Feb 15, 2007 at 11:09 AM
Try this:  While on "PC mode" on the TV, -and- your PC is displaying something,
check menu options on the TV and see if there is a picture adjustment sub-option (my samsung R71 has this)
Go for the adjustment, reset, recalibration, I forget the exact opition name...but its an "auto" adjust feature on
an R71.


You can also try changing PC resolutions to:  1024x768 or 1360x768 at 60Hz.  See the difference it makes.


Hi

Need help.

I have an NVIDIA GFORCE 7600GS connect to a Samsung LCD TV via VGA.  My problem is the picture does not fit the screen (res 1260x768).  There is a thin (about 1cm or less) black line on the left and the right side is a bit cropped.  Parang naka usog sa right yung picture.

I tried to adjust it and move the screen a little to the left but there appears some glare on the left side as thin as the black line before.

What do you think is the best solution to this.

TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: scoob on Feb 15, 2007 at 06:11 PM
are you referring to the picture during dvd playback?

It is like this everytime I use the computer and not just when watching DVDs.

@ericag_ph
Thanks.  I'll try this asap.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Feb 16, 2007 at 03:40 AM
Hi

Need help.

I have an NVIDIA GFORCE 7600GS connect to a Samsung LCD TV via VGA.  My problem is the picture does not fit the screen (res 1260x768).  There is a thin (about 1cm or less) black line on the left and the right side is a bit cropped.  Parang naka usog sa right yung picture.

I tried to adjust it and move the screen a little to the left but there appears some glare on the left side as thin as the black line before.

What do you think is the best solution to this.

TIA

native resolution ba ng samsung mo is 1280x768? have you tried other resolutions? how about refresh rate?

Try 1280x720@60 (720p) I'm sure your samsung is 720p compatible.  Check your samsung manual and try to find what its native resolution is.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bng on Feb 18, 2007 at 04:05 PM
try powerstrip also:)

hey does anyone know where i can find asus vento casing here in the Phil?
thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gbtormes16 on Feb 18, 2007 at 06:29 PM
try powerstrip also:)

hey does anyone know where i can find asus vento casing here in the Phil?
thanks

try this link: http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=675597
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Mar 09, 2007 at 08:26 PM
sir jpadua long time pag ganito ano settings?Display Resolution  1366 x 768 pixels

and 1 more thing my lcd has hdmi only no dvi my agp has 2 dvi outputs can i use my dvi cable tapos vga cable then hdmi adapter papunta lcd or it wont give a good pic na?tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Mar 09, 2007 at 09:28 PM
I can barely understand what you wrote...  ;D

However..this might help:

1.  Check your LCD TV manual.  (Maybe) It might say:  PC DVI to LCD TV HDMI isn't supported.  So if the manual is true, a DVI to HDMI cable won't help.  Even if you get it to work, in the long term it might cause a problem to the LCD TV (I wouldn't bother taking a chance).  They wouldn't write that in the manual for no reason at all.

2.  What works for me is this:  My dual monitor setup is PC DVI to PC LCD monitor DVI  -plus- PC VGA (1360x768@60Hz) display 2 to LCD TV VGA.  Not 1366x768.


sir jpadua long time pag ganito ano settings?Display Resolution  1366 x 768 pixels

and 1 more thing my lcd has hdmi only no dvi my agp has 2 dvi outputs can i use my dvi cable tapos vga cable then hdmi adapter papunta lcd or it wont give a good pic na?tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Mar 10, 2007 at 11:14 PM
1 MEGAPIXEL WXGA (1366X768)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 17, 2007 at 08:07 AM
How can I make my display widescreen in my PJ?  I have an Epson multimedia projector with a native 4:3 ratio (800x600 resolution) and can be converted to 16:9.  When I use my DVD player, I can change from 4:3 to 16:9 but when I use my PC, it only displays 4:3 even if I push the resize button on the remote, it stays 4:3.  The reason I am asking this is that I want to change my screen from 4:3 to 16:9 widescreen but I will be using my PC for DVD watching.  How can I manipulate this so that I can display the projected image in widescreen mode?  Thanks guys in advance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Mar 18, 2007 at 11:56 AM
How can I make my display widescreen in my PJ?  I have an Epson multimedia projector with a native 4:3 ratio (800x600 resolution) and can be converted to 16:9.  When I use my DVD player, I can change from 4:3 to 16:9 but when I use my PC, it only displays 4:3 even if I push the resize button on the remote, it stays 4:3.  The reason I am asking this is that I want to change my screen from 4:3 to 16:9 widescreen but I will be using my PC for DVD watching.  How can I manipulate this so that I can display the projected image in widescreen mode?  Thanks guys in advance.

i used a 4:3 DLP projector before and i can watched widescreen movie on it via my HTPC. try mo sir i-adjust doon sa  aspect ratio ng dvd playback software.
4:3 desktop
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/dl%20500/PCdesktop.jpg)

winDVD 7 playback
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/dl%20500/DVDmovie.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 18, 2007 at 03:46 PM
Thanks rmpmla for the response.  But in your response the desktop would still be 4:3 and would only be widescreen when playing DVDs.  Would there be a possibility to also show the desktop in widescreen mode such as changing my video card or using a program to display the desktop in widescreen?  In this way even on desktop, it would fill the whole 16:9 screen such as the case as using it in an LCD widescreen monitor.

BTW, my video card is just a 16mb ATI videocard.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Mar 19, 2007 at 07:12 AM
Thanks rmpmla for the response.  But in your response the desktop would still be 4:3 and would only be widescreen when playing DVDs.  Would there be a possibility to also show the desktop in widescreen mode such as changing my video card or using a program to display the desktop in widescreen?  In this way even on desktop, it would fill the whole 16:9 screen such as the case as using it in an LCD widescreen monitor.

BTW, my video card is just a 16mb ATI videocard.

if the projector has the option to switch from 4:3 to 16:9, then it is possible. correspondingly, you have to change the display properties on your PC to 1280 X 720 or 1366 X 768.

i've tried it but the displayed image for PC/desktop viewing becomes smaller. imagine the 4:3 desktop image crop to the widescreen DVD playback display.

 :)

   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 19, 2007 at 04:29 PM
Ok thanks bro! ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Mar 20, 2007 at 06:52 AM
share ko lang po :).

cheap second hand  PC parts from tipidPC. 

HTPC for my kids

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/LCD.jpg)[/img]

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/screenshot.jpg)[/img]

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/rmpmla/bryan1.jpg)[/img]


details:

27" widescreen LCD
Shuttle XPC Athlon XP2000+
ATI 9200 128mb AGP
512 X 2 PC2100 memory
80 gig HD
Lite-On DVD drive
A4tech wireless KB/mouse
Labtec 2.1 speakers
sigma PC table 

to those who asked/PM about the widescreen LCD, the seller is again selling used 26" widescreen LCD for only P14,900.

check this out - http://www.openpinoy.com/shop/step1.php?number=749

good luck ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Mar 20, 2007 at 07:03 AM
Ok thanks bro! ;D

you're most welcome, doc  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Mar 21, 2007 at 05:39 PM
jay need to get in touch with you asap tnx

anyone can help me out i need a cable to connect to my lcd 14ft away pc - dvi lcd - hdmi tnx tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Mar 23, 2007 at 09:50 AM
I had the same problem.

An hdmi cable that long will cost an arm and a leg...if you can even find one... (I needed about 10meters length) I think it was more than $500 when I was looking 3 years ago.

However, try monoprice.com  ...they have the best deals on cables.
Might even need to use two or three cables.

My solution... I just used a cheap 3.7m hdmi cable  (plus dvi-hdmi adapter)...and moved the source player closer to the LCD projector...and used a looong coax (about 7m...21ft) for audio to connect the source player to the receiver...I use this in my primary setup.

If you are using an LCD TV with the PC, I suggest using a looong VGA cable instead.
They're a lot cheaper (I got mine at monoprice.com)...and you won't really notice the difference between hdmi and vga...specially on small LCD TV's  (40" and less) from the standard viewing distance.  You can also connect 2-3 VGA cables until you get the desired length...not ideal...but it gets the job done... I use this in my 2nd setup (bedroom, HT PC connected to 40" LCD TV)

You could use the looong VGA cable also with your PC and an LCD projector...

I also got a 10-12 meter (can't remember the length) VGA cable from monoprice.com

BTW, if you are using an LCD TV...check the manual if it supports the DVI output from a PC...to the hdmi input of the LCD TV... mine says...it doesn't (Samsung).


jay need to get in touch with you asap tnx

anyone can help me out i need a cable to connect to my lcd 14ft away pc - dvi lcd - hdmi tnx tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alleyartist on Mar 23, 2007 at 07:17 PM
hi im looking to purchase a Leadtek Leadtek WinFast A6600 TD for an old asus mobo. potential project pc. my tv only has component input. but im pretty sure it can display up to 1080i. question is will this be good enough? what cable should i use to upscale?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alleyartist on Mar 26, 2007 at 07:06 AM
a dvi to component cable perhaps? is this possible?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Mar 26, 2007 at 11:56 AM
yes.

here's one:
http://sewelldirect.com/dvivideoadapter.asp


a dvi to component cable perhaps? is this possible?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alleyartist on Mar 26, 2007 at 01:38 PM
yun thanks! tried to google it a couple of times. adapter might have been the keyword. thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:35 PM
wats the best resolution thru hdmi,with ur lcd?post away
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: John E. on Mar 31, 2007 at 09:01 AM
does anyone own or encountered JBL's creature 2 speakers?

is it any good for PC speakers ...im planning on getting one to pair with a white xpc shuttle.

thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 24, 2007 at 04:05 PM
To seasoned HTPC gurus, I got the PC specs to play DVD, HD DVD and BD from another forum overseas and would like to know how much it would cost locally to build this. 

Case: Origen X15v2
Hard Disk: Seagate SATAII 500GB
External data storage: 6TB+ NAS drives (Bufallo Terastations) expandable
Motherboard: Asus A8N32SLI-Deluxe (Dual Core)
Processor: AMD X2 4200+ 939
Graphics Card: Asus 7900GT
Memory: Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Power Supply: Seasonic S-12 600W
BD and DVD Drive: LG H10NB (also tried the Lite-On and works fine)
HD-DVD Drive: Xbox HD-DVD Drive
Keyboard/Mouse: Microsoft Wireless Entertainment Desktop 7000
Remote: Microsoft Standard MCE IR Receiver
OS: Microsoft XP MCE 2005
DVD Software: Theatertek (comes with Nvidia Purevideo decoder as standard and works with the MCE remote out of the box)
BD and HD-DVD Software: Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 (works with the MCE remote)
DVD interface: My Movies MCE Add-On
HD-DVD Interface: My Movies MCE Add-On (still a pre-release)
Software also neeeded: Slysoft AnyDVD HD

Silencing Modifications: AcoustiPack Deluxe v2 Acoustic Material Kit, 3 x AcoustiFan DustProof Quiet 80mm Fan, Zalman VF900-CU Quiet Copper VGA Cooler, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler.


Or if you have any alternative, pls adviz.  Would be ripping DVD, HD DVD and BD into the external NAS drives with future expandability.  6 TB is only good for about 150 HD films.   Not for me but for an office colleague looking at high end high definition viewing.  Price is still an object so a reasonable quote is still welcome. TIA.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Apr 25, 2007 at 12:05 AM
not sure where you can buy a blu ray drive locally but most of the parts can be found at www.tipidpc.com. It will still be spendy though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 25, 2007 at 12:42 PM
I understand the LG drive indicated is a dual-format drive and quite expensive.  Will check that site for the parts.  Thanks.

But if there's anyone who has built his HTPC locally for high definition, I'd like to hear.  Thanks.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Apr 25, 2007 at 12:59 PM
I understand the LG drive indicated is a dual-format drive and quite expensive.  Will check that site for the parts.  Thanks.

But if there's anyone who has built his HTPC locally for high definition, I'd like to hear.  Thanks.   ;D

Have you found a BD drive to use? to what I know BD drives cost about 30K and the Xbox HD drive costs around 10k... some people have had success using an Xbox HD drive, but only to read the disc, no playback... they rip the HD movie into the hard drive. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: YrNeH on Apr 26, 2007 at 07:38 AM
gday jay and htpc gurus.  i just want to know what video card can do a 1:1 mapping on my WXGA plasma (1365 x 768) ? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Apr 26, 2007 at 10:38 AM
I think its a resolution supported by [newer] ATI cards...just download the latest drivers.  I have an X700 (2-3 yrs old) and it gives me 1360x768
without any other tweaks. I am not too sure about nVidia.

gday jay and htpc gurus.  i just want to know what video card can do a 1:1 mapping on my WXGA plasma (1365 x 768) ? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: agmjr on Apr 26, 2007 at 11:08 AM
to those who asked/PM about the widescreen LCD, the seller is again selling used 26" widescreen LCD for only P14,900.

check this out - http://www.openpinoy.com/shop/step1.php?number=749

good luck ;)

sir rmpmla,

just bought one of this at open pinoy.  kamusta yung unit nyo sir...how did you wall mounted it?
ty
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 26, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Have you found a BD drive to use? to what I know BD drives cost about 30K and the Xbox HD drive costs around 10k... some people have had success using an Xbox HD drive, but only to read the disc, no playback... they rip the HD movie into the hard drive. 

The LG model is dual format so it plays BD an HD DVD, but there's also the 360 add-on via USB I suppose.  My colleague tells me those NAS external drives will house the ripped titles.  So that's why the spec calls for 6 terabytes of hard drives. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Apr 26, 2007 at 05:09 PM
hope the buffalo branded nas is cheaper because the lacie branded one is pretty spendy already.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: CocoBoy on May 07, 2007 at 01:24 PM
I have about 50-60K to burn for an updated pc set-up and would like to go thru a simple HTPC route that I can also use for my PJ. Or laptop na lang kunin ko?  Any advise on rig specs sana would be helpful kasi ang dami ng selection ko especially the mboard, video and sound card, etc.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on May 08, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Check out my secondary setup (bedroom).
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55046.0

An HTPC is attached to a 40" LCD via VGA.  What's cool here is that the HTPC is also a media center.
It's connected to the internet 24x7 via router+DSL modem (my house has lan cabling built into the walls), wireless is fine, but way slower than good old copper cabling.  The downloaded stuff (semi-HD quality) from torrents can be played by the HTPC and displayed on the LCD without the need to burn it to a DVDr.  It also has a video capture card w/ firewire cable so you can make your own DVDs from a DVcamcorder.  Even a bio-microscope (with CCD camera) is attached to it, I can display on the HTPC or on the 40" LCD. 

Those 80 peso 8-in-1/complete season in one disk f*kes are too ugly to play on a 40"...hence the reason why I
download these days.

HTPC Specs:
Intel E6300 Core 2 Duo processor
512MB RAM (more than sufficient if just playing DVDs/avi/divx/etc...).
3pcs HDD drives (lots of storage for the huge downloads...a 1 hour episode is typically 350MB).
..and if you rip DVDs...well a disk is about 4.7GB
ATI X700 128MB video card (more than sufficient if just playing DVDs/avi/divx/etc...).

I use the motherboard's built-in sound card (you can choose a better sound card then output 5.1 to a receiver/amp).  But since most of my downloads are TV series...stereo is fine  ;D in fact I just use the TV's built-in speakers...though most of the time I like to use the headphones.

Preferred DVD Software:  PowerDVD player (video quality) is noticeably better than WinDVD, GhostX.

That's the plain and simple route which I am content with.  Just play on the HTPC at the display2 (the LCD TV) resolution you need (ie. 1360x768@60Hz) to match the supported display2 resolution.

The newer (P20K-30K expensive) video cards I believe have hdmi outputs (not just DVI).
VGA is fine on a 40" display.

If you start processing video streams with software like FFDshow, etc... then the more powerful HTPC machine you have the better.  I found this too tedious and unstable (crashes a lot) on my old laptop HTPC.  The output obtained
wasn't worth the extra effort in getting this running stable.



I have about 50-60K to burn for an updated pc set-up and would like to go thru a simple HTPC route that I can also use for my PJ. Or laptop na lang kunin ko?  Any advise on rig specs sana would be helpful kasi ang dami ng selection ko especially the mboard, video and sound card, etc.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: CocoBoy on May 09, 2007 at 08:48 AM
Salamat bro, are there optical drives already that can read BD and HD DVD or software lang kelagan to read this hi def discs?  I'll try to configure hardware specs and post it here for comments.

Regards and great set-up, really.  Galeng!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on May 09, 2007 at 09:54 AM
For BD and HD DVD discs...you will need hardware (optical drives) for that...I haven't seen any locally...nor have I seen any BD or HD discs locally.

If you download it...you might be okay with a codec. 

Haven't tried, since BD and HD content isn't that available(to me at least).

Right now, my view on BD and HD is to wait (1-3 years) until content/titles becomes more accessible/available.

Based on your questions...I'd go with a desktop PC rather than laptop. You'll be able to do more on a desktop cheaply and easily (add hardware).

Salamat bro, are there optical drives already that can read BD and HD DVD or software lang kelagan to read this hi def discs?  I'll try to configure hardware specs and post it here for comments.

Regards and great set-up, really.  Galeng!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on May 11, 2007 at 12:51 PM
For BD and HD DVD discs...you will need hardware (optical drives) for that...I haven't seen any locally...nor have I seen any BD or HD discs locally.

If you download it...you might be okay with a codec. 

Haven't tried, since BD and HD content isn't that available(to me at least).


Plenty of titles at a shop or two at Park Square.  Names escape me at the moment as I also am not into high def still. Online orders beside.

The xbox360 HD DVD Add On drive can connect to your HTPC via USB and play HD DVD discs with the right drivers and software installed I am told.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on May 21, 2007 at 02:20 PM
wats the best for viewing dvd's ba ?mapa bd hd or normal?nvida or ati ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aeris30 on May 26, 2007 at 07:04 PM
System requirements to connect a blu-ray or hd dvd (like the xbox 360 hd dvd add-on) drive to your htpc:

cyberlink_1 (http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/support/answerbox_productfaq.jsp?FID=2576)
cyberlink_2 (http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/support/answerbox_productfaq.jsp?FID=2577)
cyberlink_3 (http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/support/answerbox_productfaq.jsp?FID=2583)
cyberlink_4 (http://www.cyberlink.com/english/support/bdhd_support/system_requirement.jsp)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on May 29, 2007 at 08:06 AM
sir, just assembled a gaming rig.........and planning to use it as media center too.....

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13G processor
2GB RAM
400Gb harddrive (320+80gb)
Palit GF 7300GT sonic 256MB video card(planning to upgrade soon...)



any suggestions to a good soundcard that I can connect to a receiver??
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 29, 2007 at 08:32 AM
if you can get this: http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-plosion.php it would be great:) otherwise there are a lot of motherboards with an spdif out that you can use to connect to the receiver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on May 29, 2007 at 08:38 AM
if you can get this: http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-plosion.php it would be great:) otherwise there are a lot of motherboards with an spdif out that you can use to connect to the receiver.
ganda!!!    ;D ;D ill try rounding up pc shops.......

thanks john
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Jun 09, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Can you guys recommend a good TV tuner with PVR? Would it be worth it to get the ones with hardware encoding?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 09, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Can you guys recommend a good TV tuner with PVR? Would it be worth it to get the ones with hardware encoding?

Take a look at the Leadtek PVR3000 so far its the only hardware mpeg2 TV tuner that has component inpunts another good card is the Sapphire Theatrix.  Yes its worth getting the one with hardware encoding.  This really takes a real load of your CPU.  With software based cards, you can't do much while recording, since CPU is being used a lot by the encoding process.  Also there are a lot more 3rd party software that support Hardware Mpeg2 cards.  With software encoders, you are stuck with the included software.  One problem with that, when the company stops support, you will have no updated software.  And lastly windows media center and vista support only mpeg2 hardware cards. 

j
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Ice Storm on Jun 09, 2007 at 04:12 PM
Just wanted to share... Abangan the comprehensive product review featuring cable TV, PS2, GCN, PC, Mac & Xbox 360

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Jun 09, 2007 at 04:47 PM
@jpadua
Can you give me an estimate of how much is the PVR3000 and the theatrix? Saw some reviews on the net and the theatrix looks promising. ;D Btw, where have you seen the theatrix?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Ice Storm on Jun 09, 2007 at 05:13 PM
I just realized Xbox360 pics siya so here are the HTPC pics

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jpadua on Jun 09, 2007 at 05:17 PM
@jpadua
Can you give me an estimate of how much is the PVR3000 and the theatrix? Saw some reviews on the net and the theatrix looks promising. ;D Btw, where have you seen the theatrix?

I have a theatrix, its pretty good, tested the remote myself with MCE and it works! except for maybe a couple of buttons that dont do anything. I bought it from a distro in tipidpc.com  The PVR3000 you can probably find in tipidpc also, it should range from 3-4K not sure though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: leomar on Jun 09, 2007 at 07:26 PM
astig ang mga HTPC dito  :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pulgas25 on Jun 29, 2007 at 03:08 AM
tulong po! tnx,


panu po ba makukuha ang same resolution (1360X768) PC gaming through 32" bravia S-series?
Posible po b?
GAmes : (Dungeon Seige 2, broken world, NFS most wanted, Carbon Etc.)


specs ng Pc

Asus M2N32-SLI DELUXE
AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual core +4600 2.4Ghz
2GB Ram dual channel 800mhz
SLI 7600GT X2 leadtek 256+256
1.5 tera 7200 rpm SATA II
creative 24bit soundblaster





Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Jul 16, 2007 at 04:59 PM
intel e6320
2g ddr2 ram
100g hdisk
creative audigy2
ati hd2900xt

wat do next?i still dunno wat best software to get to maximize my hardware
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chariol on Jul 16, 2007 at 06:26 PM
intel e6600
640 gigs seagate hd
msi 965neo
7300 gt sonic
3 gigs geil  ddr2 pc800
liteon sata dvd writer
hec 480 watts
225bw
29 inch philips  pixel plus
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 06, 2007 at 03:16 PM
Hi guys, I plan to use a spare PC (athlon 1.8g) to use for my secondary setup (for divx) soon.

Where can I buy that sound card where I can plug an optical cable to my receiver?

I saw it here somewhere but I forgot where to look for it. TIA  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Aug 08, 2007 at 09:26 AM
Same here pre. Check this out. Waiting for its arrival.  ;)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/SoundBlasterX-fiextreme.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 09, 2007 at 04:50 PM
Hi guys, I plan to use a spare PC (athlon 1.8g) to use for my secondary setup (for divx) soon.

Where can I buy that sound card where I can plug an optical cable to my receiver?

I saw it here somewhere but I forgot where to look for it. TIA  :)

You can always buy a soundblaster audigy soundcard with spdif out. then just buy that 3.5mm adapter to RCA attaching it to the spdif output then connect your coaxial cable to the adapter and the other end to the receiver.  It would be more expensive to buy a soundcard with an optical out. IMHO
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 09, 2007 at 05:11 PM
thanks guys, but I recall seeing a post that there is a simple sound card below 1k w/ an optical out? But I may be wrong.

I dont wanna spend so much for this since I will be using a spare PC only for Divx purposes only.


TIA  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chronic on Aug 17, 2007 at 07:57 PM
can anyone help me?where can i get a cyberlink for bd and hd dvd software?tia,because the one im using now is chopping doesnt play when i have hardware accelerate feature on my rig is p35 msi e6750,2gb ddr2 and hd2900xt i upgraded from a 6320 thingking it will solve the problem but it didnt i hope someone can help me tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 18, 2007 at 05:27 AM
This might interest you to have a cheaper alternative playing HD-DVD on your PC:

Using the Xbox 360 HD DVD Add-on Drive in Windows (http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/Xbox_360_HD_DVD_Windows_page1.html)

Title: Re: NAS or another PC
Post by: voj on Aug 20, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Would be ripping DVD, HD DVD and BD into the external NAS drives with future expandability.  6 TB is only good for about 150 HD films.   Not for me but for an office colleague looking at high end high definition viewing.  Price is still an object so a reasonable quote is still welcome. TIA.

This got me thinking.  NAS are pretty expensive.  Why not just assemble a new PC solely for storage purposes.  Am I missing something.  The NAS is a simplified box with a small processor.  I remember Intel introducing one in one product launch I was fortunate to attend and it cost around 35k for one with 4 drive bays and the processor is one used for a pocketpc.  A PC on a tower will provide all the space for storage needs.  What do you think?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 21, 2007 at 07:11 AM
The problem is there is no internal IDE or SATA drive capacity that can allow you to scale up to 6 Terabytes and beyond at the moment.  What's the most you can go with maximized IDE and SATA slots?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 21, 2007 at 08:02 AM
You can buy a board with 6 SATA ports (quite common).

Then buy the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives... each is $400.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Aug 21, 2007 at 10:07 AM
again, the question is which is the best way to go?

should one go NAS or build a new file server. what are the benefits of either options.  the main concern now is real estate of your original system. expanding to an outside box becomes the only option - which option.  NAS is easier to configure, I guess, but is also expensive than setting up a cheap file server.  But is there any other benefit in going NAS than a standalone file server? what am i missing?

disc size is just a matter of how much money you want to sink in.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 21, 2007 at 01:28 PM
Well, I'm sort of in the same boat... need to archive DVDs...I need about 3TB... I now have 2.3TB of space.

I looked at NAS vs PC file server... cheapest NAS enclosure is about $200 for a 4-bay (hmmm, I think it was 8-bay) USB type (can't recall brand/model, and if it was ethernet capable... and I can't remember  how I found it on the net, and I've tried looking for it again so many times).   ;D   

Bottom line, I think a PC file server is better (economical, flexible, scalable)....so I scrapped the NAS idea.
If you're on a budget, try going at this in stages, rather than all-in-one go.   ;D

again, the question is which is the best way to go?

should one go NAS or build a new file server. what are the benefits of either options.  the main concern now is real estate of your original system. expanding to an outside box becomes the only option - which option.  NAS is easier to configure, I guess, but is also expensive than setting up a cheap file server.  But is there any other benefit in going NAS than a standalone file server? what am i missing?

disc size is just a matter of how much money you want to sink in.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 21, 2007 at 02:00 PM
You can buy a board with 6 SATA ports (quite common).

Then buy the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives... each is $400.



Nice to know.  And then after that, how do I scale up beyond 6TB?  With an external NAS, you can just add another box with its HDD array and connect to a network switich, so on and so forth.  I think if storage is critical to your requirement, server or channel -attached storage has its limits. 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 21, 2007 at 07:30 PM
Easy... add a PC card with more SATA ports
here's one with 4 SATA ports.
http://www.firewire-1394.com/4-port-serial-ata-pci-card.htm

That should give you 4TB per PC card added.

When you've loaded all the slots in the mother board, some boards have 4 PCI slots...just get another PC and network the two via switch or router.  ;D

Depending on the board, sata controller, it should also support a form of RAID.

Naturally I have no first hand experience, if such a PC can actually access so many 1TB drives given the PC sata card approach.  Theoretically, it should work....

Then of course you have the physical limit of how many you can actually put inside the PC case.... larger cases can handle 9 to 12 devices....so you could have 9 to 12TB in once case...compare the final cost to a dedicated
NAS with 9 to 12 HDD bays... I think the PC approach will come out cheaper.

I should add that 500GB Seagate drives are $100, and comes with 5 yr international warranties.
These are the drives I got.


Another approach...buy external hdd enclosures...attach to a PC via USB...when you run out of USB ports, either buy a USB card ... or perhaps a USB hub/switch might work.

Some mother boards (costs about P10000) also support 8 SATA ports on the board.


Nice to know.  And then after that, how do I scale up beyond 6TB?  With an external NAS, you can just add another box with its HDD array and connect to a network switich, so on and so forth.  I think if storage is critical to your requirement, server or channel -attached storage has its limits. 


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 22, 2007 at 07:11 AM
Anybody who has tried running a Bluray drive already on their PC? What are the minimum specs you can use to view Bluray movies flawlessly?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:40 AM
Easy... add a PC card with more SATA ports
here's one with 4 SATA ports.
http://www.firewire-1394.com/4-port-serial-ata-pci-card.htm

That should give you 4TB per PC card added.

When you've loaded all the slots in the mother board, some boards have 4 PCI slots...just get another PC and network the two via switch or router.  ;D

Depending on the board, sata controller, it should also support a form of RAID.

Naturally I have no first hand experience, if such a PC can actually access so many 1TB drives given the PC sata card approach.  Theoretically, it should work....

Then of course you have the physical limit of how many you can actually put inside the PC case.... larger cases can handle 9 to 12 devices....so you could have 9 to 12TB in once case...compare the final cost to a dedicated
NAS with 9 to 12 HDD bays... I think the PC approach will come out cheaper.

I should add that 500GB Seagate drives are $100, and comes with 5 yr international warranties.
These are the drives I got.


Another approach...buy external hdd enclosures...attach to a PC via USB...when you run out of USB ports, either buy a USB card ... or perhaps a USB hub/switch might work.

Some mother boards (costs about P10000) also support 8 SATA ports on the board.



If using SATA drives via USB, how about power supply?  And housing?  I can't imagine using 4 -6 individual SATA drives stacked up on top of each other as the risk of falling gets high. And I have to spend on individual external housing.   I think a NAS housing would take care of better organization and powering.  A NAS is really just another PC with stripped down OS and NOS just dedicated to storage management.  The consumer NAS on the net starts at around $200 for a 6-bay config.  I could get a stripped down PC ofcourse with more PCI slots for SATA drives and that's also a viable option.  Storage capacity can be addressed by both.  But there must be some advantage using NAS, rather than another PC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:51 AM
But there must be some advantage using NAS, rather than another PC.

which is my original question  :D  what am I missing.

oh, and can you post the link where you found 6 sata drives NAS enclosures for $200?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:54 AM
Sorry , can't recall, that was months ago.  Just google search "consumer NAS."  I could have sworn the $200 I saw had 6 bays, but could be wrong.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 22, 2007 at 10:31 AM
That's exactly how I imagine them...but side by side...like books  ;D
There's too much clutter for external enclosures....
You could put all of them in one large empty PC case...use all the existing power supplies, plug them all in one powerstrip and put that powerstip inside the PC case  ;D so only its cable goes out.  Assuming the USB hub/switch works, put that inside the PC case too...and only one USB cable goes out.

I'd probably avoid the USB path...too slow for file transfers.


NAS housing at $200 is almost attractive...neat, tidy, almost no maintenance required, and in all likely it's plug and play....but $200 for an empty case??
I think I saw one...but 8 bay...and I can't seem to find it again...no matter what keywords I use..

I almost bought it...but economics convinced me otherwise  ;D

For the same amount, you could get a cheap PC...that could do a whole lot more than an empty $200 NAS case.

P3000-P5000 mother board with onboard VGA, LAN, sound, 4-6 USB ports, 3-6 SATA ports, 2-4 IDE ports
P1800 CPU (Celeron)
P1500 case,keyb,generic power
P500 RAM
P0 Linux  ;D
Total = $150 - $200

If it's just a file server, you won't need a monitor...and assuming you have 3-4 file servers, you can get a cheap KVM switch (P2K-P3K) to share one keyboard, mouse, monitor.

If using SATA drives via USB, how about power supply?  And housing?  I can't imagine using 4 -6 individual SATA drives stacked up on top of each other as the risk of falling gets high. And I have to spend on individual external housing.   I think a NAS housing would take care of better organization and powering.  A NAS is really just another PC with stripped down OS and NOS just dedicated to storage management.  The consumer NAS on the net starts at around $200 for a 6-bay config.  I could get a stripped down PC ofcourse with more PCI slots for SATA drives and that's also a viable option.  Storage capacity can be addressed by both.  But there must be some advantage using NAS, rather than another PC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 22, 2007 at 10:43 AM
NAS ...seemingly cheap - but not really once you realize its an empty case you are getting, but its neat looking...less clutter...little or no maintenance (OS concerns), plug and play, and if it's USB, then it's slooow transfers....if its ethernet, fibre channel, raid, hot swap, fast...but expensive...can cost $2000-$5000 just for the 8-12 bay housing.

I can't recall where I found the $200 NAS..can't seem to find it no matter what keywords I use...

PC - cheaper, but there are "hidden maintenance" costs...aka...upgrades, software, security.

Personally, I was going to get a NAS - a lot less to worry about (OS, software,etc..)
If money is not a concern, I'd go with NAS...looks a lot neater than a PC.
...But due to economics...went with the PC approach  ;D

which is my original question  :D  what am I missing.

oh, and can you post the link where you found 6 sata drives NAS enclosures for $200?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 22, 2007 at 11:45 AM
NAS ...seemingly cheap - but not really once you realize its an empty case you are getting,




It isn't really empty is it?  You have a case and a power supply and a also some circuit with built-in OS and NOS plus your connectivity options.  It's really a stripped down PC dedicated for storage management only. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 22, 2007 at 02:23 PM
No, of course not  ;D 

It isn't really empty is it?  You have a case and a power supply and a also some circuit with built-in OS and NOS plus your connectivity options.  It's really a stripped down PC dedicated for storage management only. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Akong_man on Sep 06, 2007 at 06:26 PM
Pre! ano ibig sabihin ng HTPC? hehehhe!!! bago lang ako eh!


eto nga pla pc ko! panget eh!


Pentium 4 2.26gb
80gb HD
512mb ram
Lg cdr
samsung cdrw
Geforce4 4400
Altec Atp3
17"inch AOC semi flat monitors!



tnx! akongman
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:58 AM
In using HTPC as a processor vs receiver:

Since I have power amps (and will always use one for HT... forever), I have always wondered if its worth abandoning a good receiver (popular for HT) in the $1,000 class to change to  HTPC for processor for HT.

I have always wanted to do HTPC but I am afraid that the HTPC's processor wont beat the receiver's processor, therefore my planned change to a HTPC would result to a "downgrade" in SQ.

Or are there HTPC soundcards out there that match mid end receiver processing? Sorry if that sounded like I am "eye-poor" to PC soundcards cuz I am a HTPC noob & no idea on these HTPC's.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dimple_guy0619 on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:18 PM
Here's my PC Setup, will post the photos soon

Intel Dual Core 2 E6600 2.4Ghz 4Mb L2 Cache
1GB PC800 DDR2 Corsair Extreme 2 Memory
MSI 975X Platinum Edition V2 Motherboard
PowerColor ATI 1950XT 256Mb DDR3  PCIE VGA Card
1.44Mb Floppy disk Drive
1pc. 250GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
2pcs. 160GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
2pcs. 200GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
Asus CDRW CD Rom Drive  52x32x52
Asus 1604P DVDRW Drive
Asus DRW-1814BL DVDRW with Lightscribe Technology
Altec Lansing VS4121 Speaker
Gigabyte 3D Rocket II CPU Cooling System
17 Inch Viewsonic Ultrabrite E70F+  SVGA Monitor

Intel Dual Core 2 E6600 2.4Ghz 4Mb L2 Cache
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8715/e6600mw7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/883/cp2duoe6700main2rg3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

MSI 975 x Platinum V.2 Motherboard
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4876/msi975platinumv2tm3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Powercolor 1950 pro 256MB DDR3 PCIE VGA Card
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7098/1950protl3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Gigabyte 3D Rocket II CPU Cooling System
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1759/3drocket2rj4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

1GB PC800 DDR2 Corsair Extreme 2 Memory
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3918/xms2classicherooa8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Altec Lansing VS4121 Speaker
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4831/vs4121sd2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Dowals on Oct 09, 2007 at 02:08 PM
killer set up  :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Oct 10, 2007 at 01:43 AM
Choosing between this kinda setup vs. ps3.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: CocoBoy on Oct 10, 2007 at 07:22 AM
Here's my PC Setup, will post the photos soon

Intel Dual Core 2 E6600 2.4Ghz 4Mb L2 Cache
1GB PC800 DDR2 Corsair Extreme 2 Memory
MSI 975X Platinum Edition V2 Motherboard
PowerColor ATI 1950XT 256Mb DDR3  PCIE VGA Card
1.44Mb Floppy disk Drive
1pc. 250GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
2pcs. 160GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
2pcs. 200GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
Asus CDRW CD Rom Drive  52x32x52
Asus 1604P DVDRW Drive
Asus DRW-1814BL DVDRW with Lightscribe Technology
Altec Lansing VS4121 Speaker
Gigabyte 3D Rocket II CPU Cooling System
17 Inch Viewsonic Ultrabrite E70F+  SVGA Monitor

Wow bro, almost a Terabyte of storage space, lufet!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Oct 10, 2007 at 09:12 AM
I now have two HTPCs properly setup  ;D

PC1 (For main HTPC viewing connected to a Samsung 40" LCD)
Processor:  E4400 Core 2 Duo Intel running at 2.7 GHz stock fan, default voltages  ;D
Motherboard:  MSI P965 NeoF V2
Ram:  2GB DDR2 PC800 Transcend
Video:  512MB DDR3 256bit X1950 Pro GeCube
Storage:  4 pcs 500GB NL.2 Seagate (Nearline Enterprise class) SATA2    ;D 
Storage:  1 pc 80GB IDE for boot.
Storage:  1 pc LG DVDrw
Power:    Antec 500W
Monitor 2:  AOC 17" LCD (can be tilted 90 degrees - great for reading online comic books)
OS:  Windows XP
Codec:  K-lite
Player:  Media Player Classic, Power DVD 6

PC2 (For downloads and previews connected to an LG 19" LCD)
Processor:  E6300 Core 2 Duo Intel
Motherboard:  Asus
Video:  ATI X700 128MB
Ram:  1GB DDR2
Storage:  1 pc 250GB SATA Western Digital
Storage:  1 pc 80GB IDE for boot.
Storage:  1 pc Asus DVDrom
Power:    Enermax 465W
Monitor:  LG 19" LCD widescreen
OS:  Windows Vista
Codec:  K-lite
Player:  Media Player Classic

PC3 (doesn't really count but what the heck)
Notebook:  L5800 Asus Pentium4-2.7GHz, 512MB, 40GB Storage, DVD-CDrw, sVideo
OS:  Windows XP
Codec:  K-lite
Player:  Media Player Classic, Power DVD 6


Router:  Acer with Firewall  :)
DSL:  PLDT 995 (getting 100KBps = 800kbps download)
Mobile Storage:  1pc 80GB Samsung IDE

TOTAL storage: 2530GB == 2.53 TB!!!     ;D  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: CocoBoy on Oct 10, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Wow bro, puro mga "Tera" na pala kayo ;D Congrats.  Galeng ng mga set-up nyo!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Dunedain on Oct 18, 2007 at 06:53 AM
Nothing really fancy. Hooked up a PC to the HDTV not too long ago using a 15-foot VGA cable. PC specs as follows: 3GHz P4, Asus P4P800 mobo with built-in 5.1-ch onboard audio card with S/PDIF and optical audio output, 2GB RAM, 512MB GeForce 7600GS (picked this up from Newegg for less than US$100), and just two 120GB HDDs. Click here for specs shown on desktop (http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_04.jpg). Here's the outcome...

(http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_01.jpg)
(http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_02.jpg)
(http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_03.jpg)

Then I configured the audio output to Digital Only.

(http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_05.jpg)
(http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_06.jpg)

Stress test result: Video is good (but desktop can only be maximized up to 1360x768 and fills up roughly 80-85% of the HDTV's screen. Audio works well. Best if set at Dolby Digital Plus IIx. So now I started browsing online. Then I went to check DIVX Stage 6 videos from TV Links at full screen. Results below.

(http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_07.jpg)
(http://darqnite.powweb.com/images/dune_pc_hdtv_08.jpg)

Pro: Multimedia items can be downloaded directly, saved, and viewed on HDTV. Digital audio sounds much better than I expected.
Con: Picture's a little bit fuzzy and cannot be increased to fill the SXRD's HDTV screen. I'm wondering if I should get a DVI-to-HDMI cable. But then again, the 15-foot VGA cable purchase will be such a waste.

In the end, I just use this to view videos found online rather than watching videos that I have on discs (or back-ups in the HDD). PC Games sound better but the video doesn't match up to "up-close-and-personal" like the basic monitor. However, with the PC around the entertainment center, I'm making use of the XBox-360 to stream in videos from the PC. The concept is pretty much no different from hooking up an iPod or a Zune onto a XBox-360, with the exception that it's going through the home network.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Oct 18, 2007 at 08:48 AM
Changing the cable is not the answer, rather, look for the appropriate resolution setting and you can fill up your screen.

It's easy, just go directly to the taskbar of NVDIA and look for the appropriate screen resolution.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Dunedain on Oct 18, 2007 at 09:58 AM
Changing the cable is not the answer, rather, look for the appropriate resolution setting and you can fill up your screen.

It's easy, just go directly to the taskbar of NVDIA and look for the appropriate screen resolution.

Done that. The SXRD's manual also states that the PC screen resolution is fixed at 1360x768. It can't go any higher than that.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Oct 18, 2007 at 12:11 PM
In my TV's menu there's an option to resize/reset the screen.
After selecting it, I was able to occupy the entire landscape of the screen.
You can also try a different software for playback.

Done that. The SXRD's manual also states that the PC screen resolution is fixed at 1360x768. It can't go any higher than that.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dulber32 on Oct 19, 2007 at 06:22 PM
When using a VGA cable you will be limited by the ability of your video card or software player in display screen size.
If you use component video, HMDI or S-Video you can then use the TV hardware to scale the image appropriately.

I've been trying to perform the same "entire screen occupation" thing for some time on a 42" Toshiba Regza.
I only have a laptop with VGA out to play with (even s-video wont cut it since the laptop is using built-in video).
I discovered The KMPlayer and has been happy ever since in recorded source playback.
It has the ability to play video in Full Screen stretch mode although there can be some aspect ratio issues
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 29, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Just got a new desktop because I want to try connecting my extra HD-DVD Add-On.  Specs as follows:

Core 2 Duo Intel 2.4GHz
2GB DDR2 5300 RAM
500 GB HD
Nvidia 7600 GT 512MB, HDCP compliant
On-Board 7.1 Channel Audio with S/PDIF and Optical Out
Logitech Z-4 2.1 Ch. Speakers
22-inch Dell P1230 CRT set at 1600x1200, 100Hz
Vista Home Premium

Just installed PowerDVD Ultra Deluxe Ver. 7 last night (Torrents).  Will check how HD-DVD add-on performs later.  My video card might be a bottle neck.
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: squatt3r on Nov 01, 2007 at 12:07 PM
Sharp Aquos LC-32PX5M
Intel Q6600 2.4Ghz
Abit Fata|ity F-I90HD mATX Mobo
2x1Gb Geil DDR2 800Mhz
250Gb Seagate SATA hdd
901 Nemesis SFF casing
480W HEC PSU

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010017Small.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010036Small.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mdsaint3 on Nov 01, 2007 at 03:26 PM
anyone here selling their stock/oem vga cable from your lcd monitors?

bought several vga cables from pc stores already and my samsung r81 lcd is very picky...

hoping someone here has extra.. willing to swap with dvi cable :)

pm me thanks.. and sorry for the ot..just knew this would be the best thread to ask around
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DaSilva on Nov 05, 2007 at 08:13 AM
help...need advice re htpc vs hdd

i would like to play dled files on my plasma. my options would seem to be a mediagate 350 hdd player and an htpc.

could the gurus recommend an htpc setup for less than 10k. i just need it for playing pc files of tv programs. if it can do wifi that would also be nice. small form factor would be ideal.

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Nov 05, 2007 at 09:50 AM
help...need advice re htpc vs hdd

i would like to play dled files on my plasma. my options would seem to be a mediagate 350 hdd player and an htpc.

could the gurus recommend an htpc setup for less than 10k. i just need it for playing pc files of tv programs. if it can do wifi that would also be nice. small form factor would be ideal.

thanks!

i have a mediagate 350HD with a 320gb IDE hard disc attached to my TV.  I even brought this to Cebu to catch up on my viewing since there are a lot of free time between meetings.  Beats bringing my laptop for the same thing PLUS lots of storage, ang dami ko pinagpipilian.

since mediagate 35oHD accepts wifi signals, i have also watched a downloaded file stored in my pc direct to the TV attached to the mediagate.  In other forums, they say that you actually do not need a hard disc installed watch files networked to the mediagate.  though, i had problems with it before (I haven't tried it again - i'll try to experiment some time).

So with mediagate networked wifi with your pc, solve ka na.  To be safe install a cheap IDE hard disc, kahit yung maliit lang.  Actually, when i first bought the unit, i hesitated to buy a HD. I wanted to wait for the price of the big drives to go down since you can only physically put 1 HD inside, so i used my external 2.5" 80gb hard disc i use for mobile storage. i just bought a 3.5 to 2.5 adapter form one of the tpc sellers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: DaSilva on Nov 05, 2007 at 02:32 PM
thanks a lot sir voj!

does the mediagate have a web browser?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Nov 05, 2007 at 09:26 PM
thanks a lot sir voj!

does the mediagate have a web browser?

nope.

try this link for more info


http://www.airlinktek.com/english/prod_mg350.htm (http://www.airlinktek.com/english/prod_mg350.htm)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Nov 20, 2007 at 10:53 AM
Help guys... what is the cheapest sound card carrying a digital out? thanks  ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 21, 2007 at 11:14 AM
LOL, I have been asking this months ago. Its cheaper daw to buy a board with digital out. I found some sound cards from creative (see their website) w/ digital out but they cost about 4+k.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Nov 21, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Will the sound card be a big factor in sound quality when you watch divx, dvds and play mp3s? Are those fancy creative sound cards really a whole lot better that the built-in sound?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: threadlock on Nov 21, 2007 at 01:41 PM
Help guys... what is the cheapest sound card carrying a digital out? thanks  ::)

sir i've been using Creative Audigy value through its digital out by using a 3.5mm stereo baby jack to RCA adapter, then Phillips Digital coaxial cable to my receiver. SPDIF pass through should be selected on the Creative console and other players you will use such as PowerDVD.

Will the sound card be a big factor in sound quality when you watch divx, dvds and play mp3s? Are those fancy creative sound cards really a whole lot better that the built-in sound?

For my ears there is a big difference. Sound is cleaner, have more details and bass is tighter. Using Creative Audigy Value.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: vp_ortiz on Nov 21, 2007 at 02:19 PM
It's not really mine, but it's the HTPC setup we have here at work.

- Intel X6800 Core 2 Extreme 2.93 GHz
- Winfast NVIDIA 8800 GTX (768MB)
- Foxconn DigitaLife X38A
- Western Digital Caviar 750GB
- 2GB A-Data DDR2 1066 MHz
- LG Super Multi Blue Drive
- Cooler Master 850W PSU
- Viewsonic VX2835wm 28"
- Windows XP Service Pack 2

Kaso wala pang chasis...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Nov 21, 2007 at 02:33 PM
sir i've been using Creative Audigy value through its digital out by using a 3.5mm stereo baby jack to RCA adapter, then Phillips Digital coaxial cable to my receiver. SPDIF pass through should be selected on the Creative console and other players you will use such as PowerDVD.

For my ears there is a big difference. Sound is cleaner, have more details and bass is tighter. Using Creative Audigy Value.

ok bro thanks.. ive been trying to figure out what that spdif pass through means as feature of the Audigy 2 Value 7.1 quoted 3.850k by PC Domain -- so now i know. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Nov 23, 2007 at 05:25 PM
Share ko lang guys. Had to build another work station so decided make it ht capable. "Two birds in one stone" ika nga.

Processor: Intel E6750

Asus P5B i965 motherboard
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/ASUS2.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/ASUS1.jpg)

GEIL 1 gig Pc800
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/GEIL.jpg)

8 bay "iCute" tower casing
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/ICUTE.jpg)

PALIT HD 2600 Pro (dvi,vga,hdmi)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/SONIC.jpg)

HEC 550 watts
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/HEC.jpg)

LOGITECH Wireless keyboard and mouse.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/keyboard.jpg)

My htpc on DIRT
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/action1.jpg)

Bonecrusher vs. Prime
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/action2.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: et414 on Nov 23, 2007 at 06:29 PM
here's mine :)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/2056276055_c6e1c65880.jpg)


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/2057059864_f843078437.jpg)


- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4ghz
- GeCube HD2600XT
- Foxconn P35A
- Seagate 250GB SATA
- 2GB DDR2 800 MHz
- Asus Quietrack Lightscribe
- 19" AOC LCD
- A4Tech wireless keyboard & mouse
- Windows Vista Ultimate Edition
- Bose Acoustimass 7
- Pioneer VSX-D509S
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bembot on Nov 29, 2007 at 11:15 PM
question lang po, kailangan pa ba nang amplifier pag naka HT PC ka or kaya na direct na lang sa mobo yung mga speakers?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Nov 30, 2007 at 08:19 AM
question lang po, kailangan pa ba nang amplifier pag naka HT PC ka or kaya na direct na lang sa mobo yung mga speakers?

Yes you'll need an amp. Strictly any digital avr with an optical or coaxial output for you to enjoy a full 5.1 digital experience. Or you could get one of those 5.1 multimedia speakers with digital inputs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 21, 2007 at 06:05 PM
@ET414

ok po ba performance nung A4tech wireless KB and mouse?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Daemon_Seraphim on Dec 27, 2007 at 03:38 PM
I have a Gigabyte p965 dq6 mobo and it has digital coax out. Assuming I connect this to the digital input of an av receiver, do i need any other setting in the PC for me to output sound from any video or mp3 that I have to the home theater speakers?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 27, 2007 at 05:59 PM
Are HDMI capable motherboards now available locally?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Dec 27, 2007 at 07:41 PM
Are HDMI capable motherboards now available locally?

Check this out pre - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=838309
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 28, 2007 at 11:09 AM
thanks Dan. Do you know if their HDMI supports sound as well? Just wanted to be sure.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Dec 28, 2007 at 11:15 AM
thanks Dan. Do you know if their HDMI supports sound as well? Just wanted to be sure.  ;D

Let me check.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ert on Dec 28, 2007 at 03:00 PM
thanks Dan. Do you know if their HDMI supports sound as well? Just wanted to be sure.  ;D

yes i think pwede co'z my friend has the abit version for amd processors and nagagamit niya yung hdmi with audio.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 28, 2007 at 05:08 PM
thanks sir, but full bitrate, I presume? A HTPC user friend of mine says its hard to get full bitrate of HD movies through regular HTPC's w/ no HDMI. you have to get a special sound card pa daw.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: audiofreak on Dec 31, 2007 at 12:37 PM
i'm gonna share mine...

my simple HTPC

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2247.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2423.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2432.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2390.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2391.jpg)

best keyboard and mouse combo (remote works like the wii-mote)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2388.jpg)

next up would be decent speakers..

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mib on Jan 01, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Athlon X2 4400+ w/ Triton 70 HSF overclocked to 2.7Ghz
Biostar A690G-M2
2GB DDR667
Inno3D 8800GT 512MB DDR3 with Thermalright HR-03GT heatsink and Akasa 92MM fan
Soundblaster LIVE w/ Digital COAX Out
Lite-on 16X DVDR/RW Drive
AOC 19" WS LCD

TV - Samsung 32" Slimfit CRT
Audio - Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified

need to upgrade TV soon  :(

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jan 02, 2008 at 02:55 PM
mga sir ,

asan po na store pede ako makabili ng horizontal cpu cases na nice looking to match my ht stuff kc ngayon naka vertical cpu lang kc di kasya sa audio rack thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 02, 2008 at 05:30 PM
mga sir ,

asan po na store pede ako makabili ng horizontal cpu cases na nice looking to match my ht stuff kc ngayon naka vertical cpu lang kc di kasya sa audio rack thanks

Just came fresh from greenhills & got a horizontal case for 1600. But I changed the power supply to HEC, as recommended by PC enthusiast friends.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Jan 02, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Just came fresh from greenhills & got a horizontal case for 1600. But I changed the power supply to HEC, as recommended by PC enthusiast friends.

Wow! Planning on doing the same thing pre. Can you post pics please?  :) Happy New Year!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jan 03, 2008 at 03:38 PM
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/NSK2400_f.jpg)

Got this Case from gilmore late november . Price was last than 5K for the antec Nsk2400 . ideal for a quite htpc setup . microatx nga lang.... Comes with a highly regarded PSU


(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/ht.jpg)

Actual setup .... Medyo malabo but the htpc case is on the right side of the marantz reciever..

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/pcv300.gif)
Ito picture ng old case medyo maingay at di masyado bagay kaya ko pinalitan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: rmpmla on Jan 03, 2008 at 04:46 PM
i'm gonna share mine...

my simple HTPC

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2247.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2423.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2432.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2390.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2391.jpg)

best keyboard and mouse combo (remote works like the wii-mote)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p229/rmapua23/IMG_2388.jpg)

next up would be decent speakers..

thanks!

nice HTPC! sir, ano po brand nung PC casing with built-in LCD? TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Jan 08, 2008 at 02:34 AM
I'm planning to buy the ati 2400 pro for my htpc, which I will mainly use to playback h.264 and x.264 files. I know that the 2400 can transmit video and audio through hdmi. What is confusing though me is, does the 2400 pass through the sound from my sound card ? or does it have its own onboard audio chip?  Would buying auzentech xplosion be worth it? Would it give me noticeable improvement in movie sound quality? I'm kinda finding it hard to rationalize spending 5k for a sound card where most of the fancy features I probably won't be using anyway.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Jett on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:14 AM

audiofreak ... where did you buy the keyboard and mouse and remote combo?

I've been looking for a small wireless keyboard for my pc.

i'm gonna share mine...

my simple HTPC

best keyboard and mouse combo (remote works like the wii-mote)

next up would be decent speakers..

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 22, 2008 at 07:24 AM
Hi! I've been having problems with my HTPC lately. I've been using it solely as a DVD player connected to my pj without any connection to the net. I didn't have any problems whatsoever before watching my DVDs. Lately, I noticed that everytime I load a DVD, it doesn't continue loading and it hangs.  If ever I get to watch the movie, it just hangs around 4-5x per movie and the PC resets again. 

Should I replace the RAM, HDD or reformat windows? Any help would be appreciated. TIA

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HouseBum on Jan 22, 2008 at 08:11 AM
Hi! I've been having problems with my HTPC lately. I've been using it solely as a DVD player connected to my pj without any connection to the net. I didn't have any problems whatsoever before watching my DVDs. Lately, I noticed that everytime I load a DVD, it doesn't continue loading and it hangs.  If ever I get to watch the movie, it just hangs around 4-5x per movie and the PC resets again. 

Should I replace the RAM, HDD or reformat windows? Any help would be appreciated. TIA



Does your HTPC case support a front temp monitor? The usual cause for hang-ups and resets for PC is high temperature, specifically processor temperature. The second usual suspect is the power supply starting to fail because of capacitor aging.

You may want to inspect the processor fan if its working correctly. You can do this by either installing a monitoring software like PC Wizard or Speedfan, or by physically checking the inside of the HTPC if dust has infiltrated the inside and has cause bad airflow within the case.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demented_ on Jan 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM
I have a PC that I plan to connect to my Panasonic 32LE7 LCD TV. I'm doing this so that I can maximize the video potential of the TV.

My questions are:

1. What software do I need to enjoy upscaling of normal SD content (e.g. DVDs) and DTS capabilities?

2. Where can I buy a DVI-HDMI cable? I need about 3 meters. DVI lang kasi yung port nung video card ko (Palit 7300GT)

3. How can I connect my PC to my amplifier to enjoy Dolby Digital/DTS? What cables do I need? Pwede ba yung ordinary RCA jacks na lang? Sakura 387a ang gamit kong amplifier. Built-in kasi yung sound card na ginagamit ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyzophoria on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:13 PM
@demented_

normally the built-in media player of windows has already good upscaling capabilties for dvd and for other formats, you just need to install the right codecs, which can be downloaded sa net, for outputing DTS and AC3 codecs, you also need some audio codecs naman to do that

for the DVI-HDMI cable, meron nyan nagbebenta dati dito sa buy and sell section, kaso its currently down, you can also try tipidpc.com, cdr-king meron din ata, and i think meron din sa mga audio/video shops

you connect your PC through its spdif out (coax/optical) to your reciever, or if your board supports it (and your reciever), you can connect it through hdmi also, you wont have Dolby/DTS with just RCA jacks )unless your pc is the one that will decode the audio, which I wouldnt recommend

post ko na rin dito,hehe, my still in progress htpc setup :)

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1376/htpcib2.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: coolkiks on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:32 PM
sir dyzophoria nice case.Is this silverstone? where did you acquire this one? tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyzophoria on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:46 PM
@coolkiks

 yup, its a silverstone grandia case, I got it from tipidpc member kaizen, He can help you get some silverstone cases, luckily hindi naman nag object yung distributor, I was eyeing on another htpc casing kaso ayaw daw ata ng distro.. :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demented_ on Jan 22, 2008 at 03:41 PM
@demented_

normally the built-in media player of windows has already good upscaling capabilties for dvd and for other formats, you just need to install the right codecs, which can be downloaded sa net, for outputing DTS and AC3 codecs, you also need some audio codecs naman to do that

for the DVI-HDMI cable, meron nyan nagbebenta dati dito sa buy and sell section, kaso its currently down, you can also try tipidpc.com, cdr-king meron din ata, and i think meron din sa mga audio/video shops

you connect your PC through its spdif out (coax/optical) to your reciever, or if your board supports it (and your reciever), you can connect it through hdmi also, you wont have Dolby/DTS with just RCA jacks )unless your pc is the one that will decode the audio, which I wouldnt recommend

post ko na rin dito,hehe, my still in progress htpc setup :)

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1376/htpcib2.jpg)

Diba yung software DVD player like PowerDVD eh kayang mag-decode ng DTS/DD so pwede siya kahit RCA lang right? El-cheapo lang kasi ang amp ko so RCA lang talaga ang pwede.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 22, 2008 at 03:43 PM
Does your HTPC case support a front temp monitor? The usual cause for hang-ups and resets for PC is high temperature, specifically processor temperature. The second usual suspect is the power supply starting to fail because of capacitor aging.

You may want to inspect the processor fan if its working correctly. You can do this by either installing a monitoring software like PC Wizard or Speedfan, or by physically checking the inside of the HTPC if dust has infiltrated the inside and has cause bad airflow within the case.

Thanks sir for your response.  I replaced the RAM of my HTPC and everything worked well now.  All of the DVDs that hanged when I loaded them,  now is loading flawlessly.  Hope this is the only problem. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jan 23, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Just came fresh from greenhills & got a horizontal case for 1600. But I changed the power supply to HEC, as recommended by PC enthusiast friends.
 

thanks sir matz
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Marl☆1 on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM
audiofreak ... where did you buy the keyboard and mouse and remote combo?


I just came across this cool IR remote being sold at Tipidpc > http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1441610 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1441610)
Looks interesting, you may want to check it out...

(http://www.vlsys.co.kr/product/retail/mini/home_mplay-mini_en.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 27, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Hi! I've been having problems with my HTPC lately. I've been using it solely as a DVD player connected to my pj without any connection to the net. I didn't have any problems whatsoever before watching my DVDs. Lately, I noticed that everytime I load a DVD, it doesn't continue loading and it hangs.  If ever I get to watch the movie, it just hangs around 4-5x per movie and the PC resets again. 

Should I replace the RAM, HDD or reformat windows? Any help would be appreciated. TIA



My understanding is that playing movies are I/O and memory-intensive applications on the PC.  Same with playing audio WAV files.  They are loaded and buffered into RAM before playing. You may have a video card memory problem.  Over time, PC components can fail.  Memory shortage will often hang a PC.  It also stutters WAV files and MPEG files when playing.   

There may be background applications running that can hinder smooth movie playing.  Some anti-virus tools can interpret a multimedia file as a virus and can disrupt the play as new data streams are loaded into memory.  Or the PC might be using virtual RAM on your hard drive and there's not enough hard disk space for this. 

Or your DVD ROM might be the culprit.  You may have to clean the lens.  If as you say, it can't continue with the loading, the drive lens might not be able to read the inner tracks containing the header files on your DVD.  Try borrowing and hooking via USB2.0 a working external DVD ROM and see if the problem persists.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jan 27, 2008 at 05:16 PM
sa htpc pag walang AVR na hdmi, panu connections sa avr to enjoy dolby true-hd & dts-hd
sa hddvd player kasi multichannel connections pag walang hdmi yung AVR to enjoy dolby true-hd & dts-hd

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 27, 2008 at 05:53 PM
In the first place, your HTPC audio card should be able to decode DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD/MA, assuming you have an HD DVD or Blu-Ray ROM on your HTPC.  Then same thing, you connect via 5.1 analog outs to your receiver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Without more info, I would probably say it's your RAM (PC hangs, resets)
But before buying, would suggest trying the RAM somewhere else or use a memory tester (software)

Another likely possibility:

You can try removing existing codec and software player.
Install new codec (like K-Lite), then your software player (ie. PowerDVD).

I used to have DVD playback problems (hangs a lot, but doesn't reset), it was because of the codec.

If both of the above doesn't isolate the problem,
try reinstalling the OS from scratch.


Hi! I've been having problems with my HTPC lately. I've been using it solely as a DVD player connected to my pj without any connection to the net. I didn't have any problems whatsoever before watching my DVDs. Lately, I noticed that everytime I load a DVD, it doesn't continue loading and it hangs.  If ever I get to watch the movie, it just hangs around 4-5x per movie and the PC resets again. 

Should I replace the RAM, HDD or reformat windows? Any help would be appreciated. TIA


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Thanks guys for the response. Really learned a lot.  So far everything is OK with the newly installed RAM. Will try the other alternatives if my PC hiccups again.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jan 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM
any mac user na htpc set-up here?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 28, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Anyone here uses GOM Player?  720p high def movies look ridiculously gorgeous on this media player but playback is rather stuttery and audio tends to get out-of-synch.  Any recommended settings within GOM Player itself or should I simply upgrade my 7600GT graphics card?

Thanks for any info.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Jan 30, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Anyone here uses GOM Player?  720p high def movies look ridiculously gorgeous on this media player but playback is rather stuttery and audio tends to get out-of-synch.  Any recommended settings within GOM Player itself or should I simply upgrade my 7600GT graphics card?

Thanks for any info.



Can you post your specs? I suspect that your computer might not be fast enough to play the 720p movies. Haven't tried using GOM player but if it really makes movies look extra gorgeous then I'm pretty sure there is some extra processing going on in the background. Have you tried coreavc? Coreavc uses the least cpu power in playing hd movies but also slightly tradeoff some quality. As for upgrading graphics card, only upgrade to the newer gen cards if you're playing hd movies in h.264 format or bluray/hddvd disk. If you're watching movies through x.264 format then there will be no hardware acceleration.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 30, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Can you post your specs? I suspect that your computer might not be fast enough to play the 720p movies. Haven't tried using GOM player but if it really makes movies look extra gorgeous then I'm pretty sure there is some extra processing going on in the background. Have you tried coreavc? Coreavc uses the least cpu power in playing hd movies but also slightly tradeoff some quality. As for upgrading graphics card, only upgrade to the newer gen cards if you're playing hd movies in h.264 format or bluray/hddvd disk. If you're watching movies through x.264 format then there will be no hardware acceleration.

Core 2 Duo Intel 2.4GHz
2GB DDR2 5300 (667) RAM
500 GB HD
Nvidia 7600 GT 512MB, HDCP compliant
On-Board 7.1 Channel Audio with S/PDIF and Optical Out
Logitech Z-4 2.1 Ch. Speakers
22-inch Dell P1230 CRT set at 1600x1200, 100Hz
Vista Home Premium

Before I tried GOM player, I've been regularly using VLC player which handles those large hi-def files in mkv containers  distinctively smoother with no audio synch problems.  However, GOM player does produce better picture quality because of the high level of customizations available.   Parang may kabigatan nga lang.  Kapag 1080p rip na, lalong mabigat ang mundo nya.   :)

For those using both VLC and Windows Media Player, notice how much more vibrant the color saturation of WMP is compared to that of VLC when playing standard avi stuff and DVD.   Unfortunately, WMP cannot play hi-def files in mkv containers while VLC is rather almighty, albeit the color reproduction may seem to be rather dull.  Since the contents are eye-popping hi-def in the first place, I didn't really mind the color saturation until I tried GOM player.   And like I previously posted, it's ridiculously gorgeous (comparatively speaking).  But because of the stutter and out-of synch audio issues, I just stuck with VLC.

Yeah my PC is likewise connected to the Xbox360 HD DVD add-on drive and it handles playback well enough using PowerDVD Ultra at its present configuration.




Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on Jan 30, 2008 at 02:01 PM
sino na dito nakapag try ng bluray drive ng LG.model is GBW-H10 and is being sold at 7500pesos sa pcx.anyone?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Jan 30, 2008 at 04:49 PM
Core 2 Duo Intel 2.4GHz
2GB DDR2 5300 (667) RAM
500 GB HD
Nvidia 7600 GT 512MB, HDCP compliant
On-Board 7.1 Channel Audio with S/PDIF and Optical Out
Logitech Z-4 2.1 Ch. Speakers
22-inch Dell P1230 CRT set at 1600x1200, 100Hz
Vista Home Premium

Before I tried GOM player, I've been regularly using VLC player which handles those large hi-def files in mkv containers  distinctively smoother with no audio synch problems.  However, GOM player does produce better picture quality because of the high level of customizations available.   Parang may kabigatan nga lang.  Kapag 1080p rip na, lalong mabigat ang mundo nya.   :)

For those using both VLC and Windows Media Player, notice how much more vibrant the color saturation of WMP is compared to that of VLC when playing standard avi stuff and DVD.   Unfortunately, WMP cannot play hi-def files in mkv containers while VLC is rather almighty, albeit the color reproduction may seem to be rather dull.  Since the contents are eye-popping hi-def in the first place, I didn't really mind the color saturation until I tried GOM player.   And like I previously posted, it's ridiculously gorgeous (comparatively speaking).  But because of the stutter and out-of synch audio issues, I just stuck with VLC.

Yeah my PC is likewise connected to the Xbox360 HD DVD add-on drive and it handles playback well enough using PowerDVD Ultra at its present configuration.






Your specs are already quite good. Have you tried using media classic using ffdshow as the decoder? I believe ffdshow has the best image quality and has loads of options too. Try the Combined Community Codec Pack or K-lite pack. VLC player is not really recommended to play hd videos as the quality is not so good.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 01, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Your specs are already quite good. Have you tried using media classic using ffdshow as the decoder? I believe ffdshow has the best image quality and has loads of options too. Try the Combined Community Codec Pack or K-lite pack. VLC player is not really recommended to play hd videos as the quality is not so good.

Media Player Classic is somewhat outdated in my opinion and is not as reliable as VLC when it comes to playing newer mkv files.  May issues pa sya with rendering subtitles which are vital for the wife.  :) :) :)  I still find VLC as the most stable, most reliable, most flexible and lightest media play for high-def video playback.   Hindi naman talaga malaking malaking issue ang color rendering ng VLC when playing those 5-15GB high def rips, but I just happened to try GOM (and some of its tweaks), however, my present system seems unable to play smoothly on it.  I guess I got to try upgrading to at least an 8600 card.

Pero sa avi, I use WMP with ffdshow.  Yun nga lang after watching hi-def movies in fullscreen, can't tolerate watching avi in fullscreen anymore.  Well ok rin naman minimized screen  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Feb 01, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Moving Again From This

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/NSK2400_f.jpg)

To this

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/Fusion_new_f.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Feb 01, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Quote
nice! could you please share specs and also where to buy the case. thanks!

inside is more than a year old

MSI K8NGM2 FID motherboard w/ s939 athlon 64 x3800 overclocked to 2.4Ghz
2MB RAM , ATi hd2600 Pro video card , Pioneer dvd writer, 400 + 320 Gig HD

The nsk2400 (without volume control and VFD) case was from pc options in gilmore , the new case was special ordered.

I also have external storage a Nexstar DAS and a HP media vault NAS @2.32 terabytes  :)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/Spec1_S.jpg)     (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/hpmediavault2.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 02, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Pero sa avi, I use WMP with ffdshow.  Yun nga lang after watching hi-def movies in fullscreen, can't tolerate watching avi in fullscreen anymore.  Well ok rin naman minimized screen  :) :) :)

Amen to that. At first I tried watching HD because I wanted to see what the hoopla was all about. After watching HD, I couldn't watch another 700mb avi files anymore. Avi files now seems too pixelated and the color looks like crap. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: sanmig_ph on Feb 05, 2008 at 08:05 PM
hd 3450 Video card htpc review

http://www.i4u.com/full-review-368.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 07, 2008 at 10:20 AM
My understanding is that playing movies are I/O and memory-intensive applications on the PC.  Same with playing audio WAV files.  They are loaded and buffered into RAM before playing. You may have a video card memory problem.  Over time, PC components can fail.  Memory shortage will often hang a PC.  It also stutters WAV files and MPEG files when playing.   

There may be background applications running that can hinder smooth movie playing.  Some anti-virus tools can interpret a multimedia file as a virus and can disrupt the play as new data streams are loaded into memory.  Or the PC might be using virtual RAM on your hard drive and there's not enough hard disk space for this. 

Or your DVD ROM might be the culprit.  You may have to clean the lens.  If as you say, it can't continue with the loading, the drive lens might not be able to read the inner tracks containing the header files on your DVD.  Try borrowing and hooking via USB2.0 a working external DVD ROM and see if the problem persists.

I am presently using the onboard video of my HTPC using the VGA output. I'm planning to buy a video card with higher memory and will be using a DVI-HDMI adapter and will be using an HDMI cable to my PJ. Would the video quality improve greatly with my planned set-up? TIA

 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Feb 07, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Hi Mel(Nerveblocker),
    I think the only advantage of a DVI over a VGA is the Autoadjust capabilty of the DVI,other  than than you can always adjust your VGA to the maximum capability of your projector and Video card.

Alfie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 07, 2008 at 10:55 AM
I am presently using the onboard video of my HTPC using the VGA output. I'm planning to buy a video card with higher memory and will be using a DVI-HDMI adapter and will be using an HDMI cable to my PJ. Would the video quality improve greatly with my planned set-up? TIA


You mentioned previously that you are using your offline PC for DVD playback which is not that intensive, and that you've fixed the hanging issues when you changed the RAM.  Don't expect dramatic difference in video quality for DVD playback, although a dedicated graphics card would lessen the load of your CPU allowing for "smoother" multi-tasking.  But if you are planning to connect an add-on BD or HD DVD player, or even watch downloadable high-def contents in X.264 or H.264 format, a powerful graphics or video card is a must.

That dedicated video card posted by Sanmig_Ph sounds interesting and it's only like $50?  Didn't know there is such a big discrepancy in price between a graphics card and a video card.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 07, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Alfie- Nice to hear from you. I was just contemplating that a dedicated video card would be better than onboard video. I am satisfied with the video output though as I have posted in the AX100 thread. I also remember you posting that you find the video better with component upscaling than thru HDMI. Presently still using DVDs and not yet dipping into HD. Maybe if I jump into HD then the HDMI route would be of better use.  Thanks for the input.

  
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: keema on Feb 14, 2008 at 04:43 PM
question po..pag yung video graphics card nyo pa ba may HDMI na..hindi na kailangan ng soundcard na external para sa audio? makakabit ko na ba yung reciever ko via sa HDMI ng video graphics card?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 14, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Alfie- Nice to hear from you. I was just contemplating that a dedicated video card would be better than onboard video. I am satisfied with the video output though as I have posted in the AX100 thread. I also remember you posting that you find the video better with component upscaling than thru HDMI. Presently still using DVDs and not yet dipping into HD. Maybe if I jump into HD then the HDMI route would be of better use.  Thanks for the input.

  

Yes, its a big difference for me from using my mother board's graphics when I changed to my separate video card w/ its own power supply. On a 22" LCD monitor everything looks smooth, even with onboard video, but on a 90" PJ, its unbearable.

My HTPC:
Emaxx 7050 motherboard w/ HDMI & coax
Athlon X2- 5000
Lian Li PC-07 case
Power color HD3850 video card
HEC 550w power supply
320g WD hdd
AOC 22" LCD monitor
etc.

http://www.powercolor.com/Global/bigpic.asp?p=http://www.powercolor.com/global/images/assets/PCIE_HD3800_3850%20256MB%20GDDR3/PSD/image_a_xs.jpg

after I got this video card, my SD DVD's looked semi HD.

HT:
Panasonic AE900 projector
Onkyo 705 THX
Rotel 5 channel THX amp
Atlantic Tech System 270 THX system
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 16, 2008 at 02:43 PM
question po..pag yung video graphics card nyo pa ba may HDMI na..hindi na kailangan ng soundcard na external para sa audio? makakabit ko na ba yung reciever ko via sa HDMI ng video graphics card?

I believe yung mga ati cards like hd2600xt meron silang special dvi-hdmi adapter na kaya magoutput nung sound and video sa iisang hdmi cable pero they only use software decoding for the audio. Parang may nabasa ako na if you have a seperate sound card hindi mo madidivert yung sound output sa video card, pero not confirmed po. You can still use optical out ng sound card mo para sa reciever mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HouseBum on Feb 17, 2008 at 10:42 AM
question po..pag yung video graphics card nyo pa ba may HDMI na..hindi na kailangan ng soundcard na external para sa audio? makakabit ko na ba yung reciever ko via sa HDMI ng video graphics card?

HDMI video cards can pass S/PDIF signals from a sound card or onboard audio codec over the HDMI connector, so it will only be stereo PCM and 5.1 Dolby Digital/DTS.
The  ATI HD 2000&3000 series GPU has a built-in audio controller for 5.1 digital surround sound.

If you want 7.1 PCM audio, you have to wait for the Auzentech HDMI sound card.


Here's an article regarding HTPC playback with standard DVD's. It's quite old though, the video cards used were 2 generations ago (Nvidia G70 & ATI X1000).
Link: ATI and nVidia crush high-end DVD players (http://www.hardware.info/en-UK/articles/am9nY2pqZA/ATI_and_nVidia_crush_highend_DVD_players/1)

Also, there seems to be a notion that you will need a very expensive Video card for video playback, ever since the introduction of ATI's Avivo and nVidia's PureVideo, any card from the same chipset family will perform the same with regards to video playback.
For gaming however, the higher end video cards will be able to handle higher resolutions and till be able to support full anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering. Though, more powerful video cards often run hotter and will need bigger & noisier fans as opposed to the entry level cards which feature passive cooling via just a heatsink.

So for HD movie video playback, the Php1,900 ATI HD3450 will offer the same video quality as say the Php20,000 HD3870X2. (both generation 3 ATI Avivo cards)
For games like Call of Duty 4, the HD3450 will get you around 800x600 resolution no AA or AF and around 30 frames per second while the HD3870X2 might give you 1920x1200 res AA&AF 40-60fps.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 17, 2008 at 06:25 PM
HDMI video cards can pass S/PDIF signals from a sound card or onboard audio codec over the HDMI connector, so it will only be stereo PCM and 5.1 Dolby Digital/DTS.
The  ATI HD 2000&3000 series GPU has a built-in audio controller for 5.1 digital surround sound.

If you want 7.1 PCM audio, you have to wait for the Auzentech HDMI sound card.


Here's an article regarding HTPC playback with standard DVD's. It's quite old though, the video cards used were 2 generations ago (Nvidia G70 & ATI X1000).
Link: ATI and nVidia crush high-end DVD players (http://www.hardware.info/en-UK/articles/am9nY2pqZA/ATI_and_nVidia_crush_highend_DVD_players/1)

Also, there seems to be a notion that you will need a very expensive Video card for video playback, ever since the introduction of ATI's Avivo and nVidia's PureVideo, any card from the same chipset family will perform the same with regards to video playback.
For gaming however, the higher end video cards will be able to handle higher resolutions and till be able to support full anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering. Though, more powerful video cards often run hotter and will need bigger & noisier fans as opposed to the entry level cards which feature passive cooling via just a heatsink.

So for HD movie video playback, the Php1,900 ATI HD3450 will offer the same video quality as say the Php20,000 HD3870X2. (both generation 3 ATI Avivo cards)
For games like Call of Duty 4, the HD3450 will get you around 800x600 resolution no AA or AF and around 30 frames per second while the HD3870X2 might give you 1920x1200 res AA&AF 40-60fps.

If only these new cards can decode the .mkv videos then it would be really sweet. But at 1,900 it is hard to find a better bang for the buck card for htpc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: et414 on Feb 17, 2008 at 07:16 PM
huh? you just need to download the matroska pack to play mkv videos. media player classic & vlc can also play mkv files the need for codecs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 17, 2008 at 07:57 PM
huh? you just need to download the matroska pack to play mkv videos. media player classic & vlc can also play mkv files the need for codecs

Yup I know. Sorry I wasn't clear, I was referring to the hardware acceleration support. As far as I know, even though the video cards can support h.264 videos it still can't properly support the .mkv files (x.264). I've read that there are some driver hacks out there that try but none works perfectly.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 18, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Yup I know. Sorry I wasn't clear, I was referring to the hardware acceleration support. As far as I know, even though the video cards can support h.264 videos it still can't properly support the .mkv files (x.264). I've read that there are some driver hacks out there that try but none works perfectly.

That is an issue with 1080p mkv, but not with 720p files.  The most effective tweak within VLC to minimize stuttery playback of 1080p rips is to set "Skip The Loop Filter For H.264 Decoding" to "All" inside FFMpeg Settings.  Just make sure to set it back to "None" for 720p playback for better image quality.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 18, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Thanks I will try that. As of now whenever I fire up those 720p movies my P4 3.0 goes to 50% load and CPU fan goes full blast. Really would be nice if I can dump all the work to the video card and let it do its magic.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HouseBum on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:25 AM
Have you tried using Core AVC codecs? they require less CPU usage when decoding x264 compared to ffdshow
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 19, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Have you tried using Core AVC codecs? they require less CPU usage when decoding x264 compared to ffdshow

Yup I also tried it. It lowered the cpu usage to around 40% but still full blast cpu fan, which is annoying me cause mukhang lilipad na anytime cpu ko sa lakas ng fan. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 19, 2008 at 12:18 PM
What media player do you use with CoreAVC codecs for X264 playback?  Does it handle substitles as easily as VLC (must for the wife)?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 19, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Core AVC is a decoder much like ffdshow. You can use it with media player classic or windows media player. I also use subtitles. I use english and chinese subs. Works like a charm.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: sanmig_ph on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:02 PM
http://www.behardware.com/articles/690-1/report-which-graphic-cards-are-best-suited-for-hd-video.html

sir HouseBum,hd2600 well recommend nga for htpc :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: et414 on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:19 PM
i upgraded yesterday from HD2600XT to this:

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Box.jpg)

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Topdown.jpg)

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Cooler.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: sanmig_ph on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:28 PM
i upgraded yesterday from HD2600XT to this:

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Box.jpg)

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Topdown.jpg)

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Cooler.jpg)

congrats nice one bro ;) ganda nyan sa big screen,comparable na siguro yung sddvd sa bluray.semi hd na ang resolution.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: et414 on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:53 PM
thanks bro :) biggest improvement is actually in gaming. i get more than 2x the frame rate compared w/ the 2600xt ;D

btw share ko din settings that i found for playing back Xvid files using ffdshow. this was made by RealTelStar from Avsforum:


Hi folks,

There are good guides for DVD playback, but nothing for lower-quality video files.

I've been playing with FFDshow post-processing for the best quality playback without killing my cpu. Any C2D should be able to use these settings very smootly.

First of all, get the latest ffdshow-tryout, because it has better deblocking post-processing features which are not needed for DVDs but essential for divx. i use the v. 1523 dated 5 oct.
Enable the raw video processing, with wmp11 support:


Suggestion: activate the OSD, it will help fine-tuning. The cpu% detection is not accurate (for an euophemism), so open task manager, minimize it and look there instead.

Order of filters:
-postprocessing
-resize & aspect
-blur
-sharpen

For better quality, the blur and sharpen must be done AFTER the resize. I wouldnt do the postprocessing after the resize because is a gratious burden to the cpu. Ideally, the noise reduction should have been done before the resize, but its in the same page. I didnt try to use the blur in the resize page, maybe it's a better option. Anyway, with my settings the PQ of a GOOD dvd (especially if using h.264) rip is indistinguishable from a real DVD. A decent rip has a quality close to a DVD.

1) Postprocessing: This is essential, because it does the deblocking of the compressed file. The best option (SPP deblocking) unfortunately is too much stressing for the cpu. I can speculate that only a QX6800 is able to use is and have a smooth playback. Anyway, the settings on this page provide an excellent result with low cpu use.
The settings:
Enable presets, slider at max, tick automatic quality control (this doesn't make a difference if not easying the cpu a 2-3%)
Processing method: mplayer with accurate deblocking


2) Resize: Considering that avi files comes to many different non-standard resolutions, i preferred a fixed size instead of the classic 2x that works wonder on dvd or HDTV rips. Here you can choose between DVD size (720x480) and HD size (1080x720). It depends on the resolution of the source, for very small videos, 720 is more than enough, and you may try SPP deblocking instead if you want 1080 (and have a fast quad core), which is the only thing that can improve the PQ of something as low as 350x240-ish.
The settings:
Specify horizontal size: 1080 (or 720)
tick keep original aspect ratio
Resize if x < 1080 (or 720) and y < 720 (or 480 or put 576 for pal and 3:2 letterbox rips)
tick process pixel aspect ratio internally


2b) Resize settings page: The Spline does a much better work than Lanczos on compressed movies. Click on lock to enable it also for chroma. Some of you may want to experiment with the blur and sharpen here so the noise reduction can be done before.
The settings:
Luma method: Spline
Click on Lock and enable chroma method, select Spline
Tick accurate rounding


3) Blur & NR: Too much blur causes bad results on dirty compressed sources as xvid. Also the gradual denoise causes ghosts and must be avoided.
The settings:
Soften: 10 -is more than enough
tick only denoise 3d and HQ. leave the sliders at defaults


4) Sharpen: Xsharpen is my favourite. Unsharp mask have similar results but it makes the video less natural IMO.
The settings:
Select Xsharpen, strenght 20, treshold 150 (default).



FFDShow Settings (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=922773)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Feb 20, 2008 at 08:27 AM
i upgraded yesterday from HD2600XT to this:

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Box.jpg)

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Topdown.jpg)

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2008/2450/Cooler.jpg)

WOW!  :o :o :o Sarap mag-upgrade! Congrats bro.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: devin on Feb 22, 2008 at 04:37 PM
guys,
paano yung spdif to AVR? in detail please.. i'm currently using Audigy value & planning to buy a HT this weekend.
para sana hindi na ako bumili ng auzen x-plosion(optical/digital Coax).
help naman please.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: keema on Feb 23, 2008 at 03:54 PM
ako din tanong ko din yan..papano ba makakabit sa receiver yung soundcard na may spdif???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 23, 2008 at 04:08 PM
Buy a 3.5mm (M) to RCA (F) adapter like this (usually can be bought at Ace Hardware or Handyman):

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21sTIw4gJnL._AA115_.jpg)

then insert the 3.5mm (M) end to the SPDIF port of your soundcard.  Then get a 75ohm cable with both (M) RCA ends and insert one end of the cable to the (F)RCA end of the adapter connected to your soundcard and the other end of the RCA cable to the coaxial input of your receiver. 

Activate the SPDIF out option of your soundcard.  When using a DVD program like PowerDVD in the audio configuration, just select SPDIF or digital out.

Hope this helps!  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: keema on Feb 24, 2008 at 03:55 PM
thank you sir sa reply...:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: devin on Feb 25, 2008 at 10:04 AM
maraming maraming salamat pare!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: indie boi on Feb 26, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Just saw this multimedia PC available in HK

(http://www.hornington.com/dbimages/644_l.jpg)

7" 16:9 Touch Screen on the chassis
‧Intel Pentium Processor 830D
‧Genuine Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
‧2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SD Ram at 533MHz
‧300GB Serial ATA Hard Drive
‧nVidia GeForce 6600GT, 256MB DDR3 with TV out, DVI
‧Digital 7.1 Support
‧16x DVD±R Writer, DVD-RAM support (read/write)
‧Integrated Gigabit Ethernet
‧802.11g/b, support 125* High Speed Mode
‧Digital TV Tuner input or External FM input, Analog TV Tuner input
‧Microsoft Remote Control + Remote Keyboard
‧425mm (W) x 170mm (H) x 425mm (D)
‧Black in Color
‧12-in-1 Card Reader

Not sure though if the video card is upgradable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Feb 26, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Mga sir I'm planning to replace my old-reliable pc with an HTPC. I need your help on what specs and brands I need for my setup. Can you give me a qoute of how much they cost? My budget is around P35k-P40k pero mas masaya kung pwede pa ibaba.

Thank you!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 27, 2008 at 02:29 PM
Mga sir I'm planning to replace my old-reliable pc with an HTPC. I need your help on what specs and brands I need for my setup. Can you give me a qoute of how much they cost? My budget is around P35k-P40k pero mas masaya kung pwede pa ibaba.

Thank you!  ;D
Will the htpc be used solely for ht? I the specs of the htpc would vary greatly on what your planning to do with it. I use my old p4 3ghz pc for my dedicated htpc. Works great, i use it for playing music and 720p movies. You could buy a setup like mine for less than 20k. You really have to decide whether you will play games on it or not because that would be the biggest factor in determining what kind of setup you will do.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Feb 27, 2008 at 08:30 PM
It's more in playing games (Xbox Live and PC games) sir since I already have a separate HT setup but I want both to be integrated.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Feb 29, 2008 at 06:29 PM
Go with a mid-level graphics card (8-10k) as it will be the most critical factor in playing games. Make sure your get the latest models as there are a lot of older generation graphics card that is priced almost the same with the newer generation cards. One of the advantages of the new generation video cards is h.264 hardware acceleration. It h.264 acceleration will be important if you will be using your htpc for viewing blu-ray or hd-dvd as it will take the processing load away from the cpu and into the video card. Also try to look for a video card with hdmi to make your connections easier, but it is not necessary as you can use dvi-hdmi adapters anyway.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 29, 2008 at 06:36 PM
FYI a 7600GT class graphics card is the minimum requirement for HD DVD and BD playback.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 01, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I personally wouldn't go with the minimum 7600GT. You should get the 8600GT for the same price. What you get with the 8600GT is a faster card for gaming, DX10 and Full H.264 Decode Acceleration. Although if you're really into gaming you should get the HD 3850.

Here is a nice article on hardware decode acceleration on the HD content.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3047&p=1 (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3047&p=1)

Even an old P4 can play blu-ray or hd dvd as long as the video card can decode the HD content on the GPU.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Mar 01, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Ano po ba maganda brand?  And how about for sound card and mobo? What do you recommend. I saw this at tipidpc - AMD X2 4400 + EMAXX EMX-NF7050HD-PRO + 1gb Corsair Value ram ddr2 667 - P6800. Okay na po ba 'to? Or should I go higher?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 02, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Ano po ba maganda brand?  And how about for sound card and mobo? What do you recommend. I saw this at tipidpc - AMD X2 4400 + EMAXX EMX-NF7050HD-PRO + 1gb Corsair Value ram ddr2 667 - P6800. Okay na po ba 'to? Or should I go higher?


Any brand will do, just make sure the shop you get it from has good after sales service. The more expensive brands like bfg or evga is usually built better and clocked higher. It will be up to you if it's worth the extra money or not. If your not specially picky about sound then you can use the hdmi out of your video card, all the HD 3xxx has built in 5.1 audio.

Not really sure with the amd 4400. If you can, you should go for a better cpu and more ram. You should have at least 2gb of ram. Regarding the mobo, don't sweat about the mobo. In my experience the mobo doesn't add much performance. It's really the cpu, ram and video card that affects game speed the most.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Mar 03, 2008 at 05:02 PM
Out of curiosity, I tried the settings below... worked very well on a .avi animated movie (Gummi Bears) that had very ugly artifacts.

But it softened a non-animated decent quality  divx/avi movie too much.  In the end, I decided not to use the settings below.

FFDShow Settings (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=922773)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Mar 04, 2008 at 09:04 AM
Any brand will do, just make sure the shop you get it from has good after sales service. The more expensive brands like bfg or evga is usually built better and clocked higher. It will be up to you if it's worth the extra money or not. If your not specially picky about sound then you can use the hdmi out of your video card, all the HD 3xxx has built in 5.1 audio.

Not really sure with the amd 4400. If you can, you should go for a better cpu and more ram. You should have at least 2gb of ram. Regarding the mobo, don't sweat about the mobo. In my experience the mobo doesn't add much performance. It's really the cpu, ram and video card that affects game speed the most.

Thank you for the info. :) Question lang so eventhough hindi ganun kaganda yung bibilhin kung sound card as long as top-of-the-line ang video card card ko I can still enjoy 5.1 audio?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 04, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Thank you for the info. :) Question lang so eventhough hindi ganun kaganda yung bibilhin kung sound card as long as top-of-the-line ang video card card ko I can still enjoy 5.1 audio?


Bro, a  5.1 ch Creative sound card is sooooo much cheaper compared to an HD 3xxxx or 8800GTS video card.   If you can spend hundreds of dollars on the video card, why would you not spend $50-$75 on a reasonably good 5.1 ch sound card?   My point is, it's generally better (and more convenient connection wise) to rely on your sound card for 5.1 ch audio,  than to use the graphics card for both video and audio.  In case of trouble, it's also easier to isolate the problem.

For top of the line video cards, make sure you have sufficient and reliable power supply unit, that your mobo can actually support it and that you'd have sufficient space in your PC case to insert one (those hi-end cards are not only fat, they're also looong). 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 04, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Thank you for the info. :) Question lang so eventhough hindi ganun kaganda yung bibilhin kung sound card as long as top-of-the-line ang video card card ko I can still enjoy 5.1 audio?

You will buy the video card for its 3D performance not for the audio. The audio is just a bonus. Its great if you want the connections to be clean, because you will be using only one hdmi cable for both video and audio. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Mar 04, 2008 at 08:37 PM
I see...how about the dvd drive? Does this matter? Sensya na sa dami ng tanong ko kasi 'tong pc na ginagamit ko bundle,  ayaw ko na kasi mag-isip ng mga specs nung binili ko 'to kaso hindi ko na sya pwede i-upgrade kaya ngayon natuto na ko. Kaya next time na bumili ako kelangan sigurado na. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 05, 2008 at 08:28 AM
I see...how about the dvd drive? Does this matter? Sensya na sa dami ng tanong ko kasi 'tong pc na ginagamit ko bundle,  ayaw ko na kasi mag-isip ng mga specs nung binili ko 'to kaso hindi ko na sya pwede i-upgrade kaya ngayon natuto na ko. Kaya next time na bumili ako kelangan sigurado na. :)

If you're planning to have dual DVD drive bay, one exclusively for DVD playback and another for various recordable DVD format (recommended configuration BTW), why don't you consider the $50 HD DVD Add-On. 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: uvax on Mar 05, 2008 at 09:36 AM
AMD has just released a new chipset with a built-in graphics chip that is capable to decoding HD video without requiring a high end CPU.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/04/amd_780g_chipset/ (http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/04/amd_780g_chipset/)

This could be a godsend to HTPC builders as you no longer require an expensive graphics card.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 05, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I see...how about the dvd drive? Does this matter? Sensya na sa dami ng tanong ko kasi 'tong pc na ginagamit ko bundle,  ayaw ko na kasi mag-isip ng mga specs nung binili ko 'to kaso hindi ko na sya pwede i-upgrade kaya ngayon natuto na ko. Kaya next time na bumili ako kelangan sigurado na. :)

Doesn't really matter what dvd drive you get, as long as it can read the dvds there is not much performance gained or lost. You should also consider going for the new hi-def drives like hd dvd or blu-ray. But to really future proof your system go for the blu-ray because hd dvd is already being phased out.

Oks lang magtanong, that's what the forums are for. To help each other. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Mar 07, 2008 at 08:07 PM
@uvax
available na po ba 'to sir?

@glacierfrost
tignan ko kung kaya ng budget ko bumili ng bluray drive baka bluray player na lang kung sakali.:) thank for the help sir.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Mar 07, 2008 at 09:22 PM
anybody who can recommend a good cpu to be used only as a dedicated mp3/wav jukebox to be connected to an onkyo 705.  i would prefer a small case for this as i will place this side by side with the avr.. what us the best soundcard and processor for this?  No need for a video card i guess since i will not be using it as a video source..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 08, 2008 at 09:25 AM
anybody who can recommend a good cpu to be used only as a dedicated mp3/wav jukebox to be connected to an onkyo 705.  i would prefer a small case for this as i will place this side by side with the avr.. what us the best soundcard and processor for this?  No need for a video card i guess since i will not be using it as a video source..

Any old processor would be enough for mp3/wav. If you have any old pc lying around then you don't even need to buy anything, maybe just a new case. I got a regular atx case that looks small. It goes very well with my HT. Maybe you could look for something like that. I will post pics later. ;D

How do you plan on browsing the files without any video out? About sound card... This is also my dilemma. Right now I'm using my onboard sound, but I'm tempted to get a nice sound card like the auzentech xplosion. I'm just not sure if dropping 5k would be give a dramatic improvement or just a marginal one.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 08, 2008 at 01:34 PM
Couldn't be dramatic, as all soundcards use the same digital processing chips which have become a commodity these days.  Very little difference in their circuitires.  But the DACs of some soundcards might be better than others.  But still not a night and day difference.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 10, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Here is the pictures I promised. I scanned a chinese pc magazine review instead so that you can see the insides better. Btw mine is in black. Size of the casing is 140x370x450mm.

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5359/cci00000bo9.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cci00000bo9.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Mar 10, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Here is the pictures I promised. I scanned a chinese pc magazine review instead so that you can see the insides better. Btw mine is in black. Size of the casing is 140x370x450mm.

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5359/cci00000bo9.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cci00000bo9.jpg)

where do u buy this bro?  can any standard sound card and hard drive fit into this casing?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 10, 2008 at 06:48 PM
I bought it from hongkong last year because the casings I saw here wasn't very suited for HT setup. Most casings I saw had an abundance of LED lights, that gave it a cheapo feel (think jeepney). ;D Silverstone cases looked great but I just can't justify spending that much for a PC case.

Yup a regular sound card will fit. It even has a front jack connector so that if you have headphones you can plug it through the front. The case uses a regular atx form factor so most motherboards will fit in with no problem. It can fit two regular 3.5" hard drive and two dvd or cd drives.
Title: Quiet hard drive
Post by: uvax on Mar 11, 2008 at 12:05 PM
I see Western Digital Green Power hard drives appearing locally. These drives are supposed to have lower power consumption as well as run cooler and quieter than other comparable hard drives.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13379 (http://techreport.com/articles.x/13379)

Should do well in an HTPC setup.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: SiCkBoY on Mar 14, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Not to mention 1 terrabyte of hard drive space :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Mar 18, 2008 at 09:21 PM

Just got the cpu/motherboard and memory this evening ... the antec case was not yet used

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/htpc.jpg)

Its the new 780g chipset from Ati , hopefully i can assemble and fully test in the next couple of  days and see if it's good enough . I have a couple of 1080p mkv's that would really test it ..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 18, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Buy a 3.5mm (M) to RCA (F) adapter like this (usually can be bought at Ace Hardware or Handyman):

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21sTIw4gJnL._AA115_.jpg)

then insert the 3.5mm (M) end to the SPDIF port of your soundcard.  Then get a 75ohm cable with both (M) RCA ends and insert one end of the cable to the (F)RCA end of the adapter connected to your soundcard and the other end of the RCA cable to the coaxial input of your receiver. 

Activate the SPDIF out option of your soundcard.  When using a DVD program like PowerDVD in the audio configuration, just select SPDIF or digital out.

Hope this helps!  ;)



Sir, is this compatible to my laptop ACER Aspire 5710 with digital out, also I use the socket for headphone or audio out to my system.  TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Nice toys jambam. How much did you spend on your new rig? I'm drooling over the casing, very nice. :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: reynold on Mar 19, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Nice toys jambam. How much did you spend on your new rig? I'm drooling over the casing, very nice. :o

Yeah, same here jambam. Can you tell us how much did you get them especially that receiver type casing?

thanks,
reynold ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Mar 19, 2008 at 03:37 PM
hi guys casing was 10K... The cpu+mem+motherboard was less than 10k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: reynold on Mar 19, 2008 at 03:47 PM
hi guys casing was 10K... The cpu+mem+motherboard was less than 10k

Wow, medyo may kamahalan pala yung casing, pag-ipunan ko yan :)
Thanks bro :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Mar 20, 2008 at 02:04 AM
hi guys casing was 10K... The cpu+mem+motherboard was less than 10k

saan nyo nabili ang casing sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Mar 20, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Ganda nga ng casing nyo sir pati na rin yung price. :) Tanong ko lang kung san nyo binili?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Mar 24, 2008 at 03:34 PM
sa gilmore Qc mayroon doon ng case .... Antec Fusion ang tawag
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Mar 26, 2008 at 07:09 PM
This motherboard together with the add-ins has a potential to make an all in one htpc, just add speakers :)

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/674/3/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: koykoy on Mar 29, 2008 at 04:52 PM
guys, what are the sizes of your tv monitors?

i am leaning to buy a 42" LCD to be used as movie viewing and gaming.  okey pa kaya mag play ng civ4 on a 42" with a resolution of only 1366x768?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Mar 30, 2008 at 08:04 PM
I've got a 42" plasma and I watch movies on it. Movies looks great specially HD movies. Haven't tried playing games though. What is CIV 4? civilization 4? I think playing PC games like civilization is still more suitable in PC monitors because the big TV's text is not as sharp and the TV is low res compared to PC monitors.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Apr 02, 2008 at 08:32 PM
Sir I need your help. I tried to use my 32" lcd for my htpc but it didn't work. It says "PC VGA" on the screen. I used vga cable and a DVI adapter on the other side which is connected to my cpu.

Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Apr 03, 2008 at 10:32 AM
You have to make sure the resolution that you've set is compatible with your TV. You can check your TV manual for the supported resolutions.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Apr 04, 2008 at 08:34 AM
Thank you sir.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: busabos on Apr 06, 2008 at 06:58 PM
I just built an HTPC, when I plugged it on my receiver medyo garbled and distorted yun sound sa movies.  I know that there's nothing wrong with the receiver because it sounds ok when Im using my dvd.  There's also nothing wrong with the sound card (x-fi audio); it was working on another speaker system.  what could be wrong? Im usng an rca tp 3.5mm jack.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Apr 07, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Paano garbled? how did you connect the HTPC to the reciever? digital or analog?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jello900 on Apr 09, 2008 at 10:04 PM
guys tanong lng, Anong OS gamit niyo sa HTPC niyo? Media Center Edition ba?  tska may nabibili ba dito na orig nun?

first time ko bubuo ng HTPC eh
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Apr 12, 2008 at 12:56 AM
I use windows xp home edition. Then I use media portal as my media center. Open soure yung media portal so it is free.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Apr 14, 2008 at 07:40 AM
Hey guys. I'm experiencing shaky video playback on my htpc. Any idea what's the problem?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: narf on Apr 14, 2008 at 07:59 AM
Hi would anyone know if this is available locally? http://www.rokulabs.com/products_soundbridge.p (http://www.rokulabs.com/products_soundbridge.p)hp Looks like a nice addition to a wifi home. Capable of playing flac too. It is less expensive than the Sonos of the Squeezebox, although it might not sound as good I guess it will do the job.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on Apr 14, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Hey guys. I'm experiencing shaky video playback on my htpc. Any idea what's the problem?

What do you mean by shaky? Up, down, left, right shaking? What's your setup? Does it only shake when you playback videos? How are you connecting your pc and TV?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Apr 15, 2008 at 09:26 AM
What do you mean by shaky? Up, down, left, right shaking? What's your setup? Does it only shake when you playback videos? How are you connecting your pc and TV?

It was shaky on a left to right motion. My rig's running on an Intel 2.66 ghz e6750, 2 gig ddr2 memory, Palit Daytona HD2600PRO 256MB/128bit ddr3 (connected thru hdmi from video card to lcd). Yes in only shakes on video playback. The rest of desktop activity runs ok. It was set on 1360 x 768. I tried and set it on 1680 x 1050 and it suddenly turned ok. Weird?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Apr 20, 2008 at 05:27 PM
I just want to share my ht and htpc setup.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/9hkzsm.jpg)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/2qkmjj4.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/14kbhtv.jpg)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2uggrgm.jpg)

Pasensya na medyo magulo pagkaka-ayos. :)

Specs:
Monitor: Samsung 226BW
Processor: Athlon X2 4400
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H
Graphic Card: Inno3D GeForce 9600GT
HDD: 250 gig
RAM: 2 gig
Case: Lian-LI PC-A01



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: alx on Apr 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM
mga sir, wat do u min by HTPC?

na dadownload na b mga movies?

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Apr 21, 2008 at 03:03 PM
mga sir, wat do u min by HTPC?

na dadownload na b mga movies?

thanks!

hi sir,

HTPC means Home Theater Personal Computer
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dimple_guy0619 on Apr 22, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Here's my PC Setup, Updated with Photos

Intel Dual Core 2 E6600 2.4Ghz 4Mb L2 Cache
1GB PC800 DDR2 Corsair Extreme 2 Memory
MSI 975X Platinum Edition V2 Motherboard
PowerColor ATI 1950XT 256Mb DDR3  PCIE VGA Card
1.44Mb Floppy disk Drive
1pc. 250GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
2pcs. 160GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
2pcs. 200GB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
Asus CDRW CD Rom Drive  52x32x52
Asus 1604P DVDRW Drive
Asus DRW-1814BL DVDRW with Lightscribe Technology
Altec Lansing VS4121 Speaker
Gigabyte 3D Rocket II CPU Cooling System
17 Inch Viewsonic Ultrabrite E70F+  SVGA Monitor
A4tech WOP-35 PS2 Optical Mouse
Logitech Rumble Pad 2 USB Game Controller
A4tech 336 USB Webcam

Intel Dual Core 2 E6600 2.4Ghz 4Mb L2 Cache
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8490/e6600vh0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5734/cp2duoe6700main2fb8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

MSI 975 x Platinum V.2 Motherboard[/b]
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9408/msi975platinumv2cr4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Powercolor 1950 pro 256MB DDR3 PCIE VGA Card
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6180/1950prokk5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Gigabyte 3D Rocket II CPU Cooling System
[/b]
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3194/3drocket2eo7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

1GB PC800 DDR2 Corsair Extreme 2 Memory
[/b]
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9282/xms2classicheroee4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Altec Lansing VS4121 Speaker
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4831/vs4121sd2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

A4tech WOP-35 PS2 Optical Mouse
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7038/a4techwop351jk5.gif) (http://imageshack.us)

Logitech Rumble Pad 2 USB Game Controller
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5254/rumblepad2gw9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

A4tech 336 USB Webcam
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1458/pk336mb1qd5.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: otepsy on Apr 22, 2008 at 04:29 PM
Question: I'm planning to build HTPC but my big concern is about the audio, if i will buy a soundcard with analog and digital out, i'm thinking to use the analog out instead of the digital out, correct me if i'm wrong coz what am i thinking is because i will connect it to my HK-AVR135 only and to think that the decoder of my AVR is up to DTS only so if i connect it via digital the receiver will decode the audio, but if i connect it to analog the computer will decode the audio in much higher than the receiver. Am I right?

Baka maguluhan kayo:

Sound Card Digital Out -> AVR Digital In =  AVR will decode the audio (Paano kung DTS HD MA yung i-play like the HD r*ps the audio will be downgraded to DTS only)

Souncard Analog out - > AVR Analog In
=  The PC will decode the audio (So if i have the right codecs ang ma-re-recieve nag AVR is the the right Audio track kasi nadecode na sya ng PC and yung AVR will just Amplify it.

Tama ba itong naiisip ko?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Rak-Rak on Apr 27, 2008 at 05:29 AM

Monitor: Samsung 226BW


dyerds, kamusta yung Samsung 226BW? aside sa games what movies do you feed that awsome monitor? 1080p? o 720p mkv movies? How does it look?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Logitech Rumble Pad 2 USB Game Controller
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5254/rumblepad2gw9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Sir, can this replace keyboard functions in all games or is it specific in games with controller options lang?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Here are some affordable alternatives for your HTPC:

Casings

Mini Portable Casing 01 (black) (all aluminum w/transparent sidings) (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1696129)
Mini Portable Casing 02 (black) (all aluminum w/transparent sidings) (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1808514)


MOBO w/ HDMI

ABIT I-N73HD with Firewire and HDMI Port (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1823226)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jello900 on Apr 29, 2008 at 02:16 AM
guys patulong naman, kakasetup ko lng ng mini htpc ko with my 32" pana LCDTV. I was able to connect it via DVI-HDMI. Probelma lng is medyo ang hrap lng basahin ng text, hindi siya blurry pero parang ang sharp msydo. Pero when i watch videos everything seems fine. is this normal?

Ano nga pla reso gamit niyo sa mga nka 32"? 1366x768 is the native reso of my lcd pero walang option un pc para ma support un. Ano reso gamit niyo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Apr 29, 2008 at 08:21 AM
I use 1360x768 at 60Hz.
Just download the latest drivers for your video card.

guys patulong naman, kakasetup ko lng ng mini htpc ko with my 32" pana LCDTV. I was able to connect it via DVI-HDMI. Probelma lng is medyo ang hrap lng basahin ng text, hindi siya blurry pero parang ang sharp msydo. Pero when i watch videos everything seems fine. is this normal?

Ano nga pla reso gamit niyo sa mga nka 32"? 1366x768 is the native reso of my lcd pero walang option un pc para ma support un. Ano reso gamit niyo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 29, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Can we play PS2 games using the PC?  Any software to use?  TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Apr 29, 2008 at 02:09 PM
I use 1360x768 at 60Hz.

Is this the preferred setting for all 32-inch lcd or just for Pana? I tried to use my lcd pero hindi gumana. I don't know why. Sir glacierfrost told me to check my manual to see what reso my tv supports but I haven't check it yet.  ;D Different brand ba ng 32 inches different reso din ang kailangang gamitin?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: seanski on Apr 29, 2008 at 03:26 PM
Is this the preferred setting for all 32-inch lcd or just for Pana? I tried to use my lcd pero hindi gumana. I don't know why. Sir glacierfrost told me to check my manual to see what reso my tv supports but I haven't check it yet.  ;D Different brand ba ng 32 inches different reso din ang kailangang gamitin?

Sir, I'm using a 32" Panasonic TC-32LX77M.  Kaya naman nya pero lampas lampas sa boundary yung screen. 1024x768 32-bit color @60Hz yung gumana for my PC. :) It's said in the manual for the LX77M, di pa ako marunong magtono ng video though. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STRIKER on Apr 29, 2008 at 04:38 PM
seems like a good and interesting thread.
ill share my set-up when i get to upload my pix.

looking forward to your ideas.
cheers
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jello900 on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Guys with 32" lcd, ano reso gamit nito for your htpcs? cant figure out whats the best reso to use eh
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STRIKER on Apr 30, 2008 at 12:21 PM
i think all tv's have diff native reso. so set it on whatever your tv is.
whats important is that the circles if icons, letter "O", and other round objects remain round and not flat/elongated.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: michbern on May 03, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Question: I'm planning to build HTPC but my big concern is about the audio, if i will buy a soundcard with analog and digital out, i'm thinking to use the analog out instead of the digital out, correct me if i'm wrong coz what am i thinking is because i will connect it to my HK-AVR135 only and to think that the decoder of my AVR is up to DTS only so if i connect it via digital the receiver will decode the audio, but if i connect it to analog the computer will decode the audio in much higher than the receiver. Am I right?

Baka maguluhan kayo:

Sound Card Digital Out -> AVR Digital In =  AVR will decode the audio (Paano kung DTS HD MA yung i-play like the HD r*ps the audio will be downgraded to DTS only)

Souncard Analog out - > AVR Analog In
=  The PC will decode the audio (So if i have the right codecs ang ma-re-recieve nag AVR is the the right Audio track kasi nadecode na sya ng PC and yung AVR will just Amplify it.

Tama ba itong naiisip ko?

anyone knows the answer to this? mas maganda ba analog ang out.. as of now Digital out yung gamit ko.. meron din sya point of having the pc decode the audio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: otepsy on May 03, 2008 at 11:25 AM
oo nga tagal ko na naghihintay ng sagot mga gurus... pls enlighten me.. Thanks...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 03, 2008 at 11:36 AM
oo nga tagal ko na naghihintay ng sagot mga gurus... pls enlighten me.. Thanks...

Haven't try it yet because I have no time tweaking my htpc and I am not a guru on this. Mga Master nasan na po kayo? Ako rin kasi naghihintay...  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: neil3504 on May 05, 2008 at 10:51 AM
My Setup

MSI 945P
Pentium D 3.2 GHz
Geil DDR2 667MHz 4x1GB
Radeon HD2600XT
2 80GB HD SATA
1 160GB HD SATA
1 120GB HD SATA
Z-5500
Vista Ultimate
HEC 550 watts

40" Samsung LCD TV 1080p Full HD - SOON

I am able to play 720p and 1080p (MKV Files) flawlessly with this setup.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: michbern on May 05, 2008 at 12:36 PM
will a pentium 4 2.4ghz be able to play 720 and 1080p files?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STRIKER on May 05, 2008 at 01:25 PM
will a pentium 4 2.4ghz be able to play 720 and 1080p files?

i think you can.... provided you have a dedicated hd video card to carry the load. a card that has enough memory and bit to do the job. having at least 1gb of ram to assist your processor with its chores.

if i am not mistaken spec of your card should be something like.... 256mb and 256bit
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: neil3504 on May 05, 2008 at 01:34 PM
@michbern

are you referring to MKV files?

I was able to play 720p files using my other PC with this setup. Not sure about 1080p files though.

P4 2.6GHz
768MB DDR
Radeon 9250 128MB VC
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on May 07, 2008 at 10:00 AM
If you have the new ati cards that have UVD it should be able to play 720p files even if your pc is p4 2.4ghz. I have p4 3.0ghz and the cpu load when playing 720p files is less than 20% (I think it is even less than 10%). Before getting the HD3450, my cpu usage is more than 50%.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on May 07, 2008 at 10:20 AM
anyone knows the answer to this? mas maganda ba analog ang out.. as of now Digital out yung gamit ko.. meron din sya point of having the pc decode the audio.

I think digital should be better because HT AVRs usually have better DACs than PC sound cards.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: michbern on May 11, 2008 at 12:45 AM
@glacierfrost: what is a UVD?

@striker: im using an old board.. i think it can also fit in a agp x8 video cards. is there any that uses the slot and HD ready?

@neil3504

especially the 1080p.. I can only play like 20 secs then the video lags from the audio

im using a P4 2.4ghz
              1 gb RAM
and a Asus 128mb video card.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: neil3504 on May 11, 2008 at 11:39 AM
I had the same problems with 1080p before. Then i switched to HD2600XT w/ UVD (universal video decoder) made a little tweak on my ZP settings. CPU usage went down from 100% to 20-50%. All of the video processing was done by the VC.

You can try coreavc as your h.264 decoder, it can lessen the load of the CPU but not as much as UVD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: amalvar on May 12, 2008 at 01:13 PM
just a question.

i'm using my htpc with my toshiba 32' lcd tv (native resolution of 13** x 768).

my current resolution (xp setting) for my htpc is 19** x 1080.

watching videos is great.. but for xp use, surfing the web, etc.. the text is really small (thin)..

how do i address this problem? should i just set up htpc at 1020 by 768 resolution?? or would my playback for my 720p and 1080p .mkv, .avi, etc. files be affected? or would this "hd files" play better if i set my resolution lower?

advise please.

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: leomar on May 12, 2008 at 01:58 PM
If you have the new ati cards that have UVD it should be able to play 720p files even if your pc is p4 2.4ghz. I have p4 3.0ghz and the cpu load when playing 720p files is less than 20% (I think it is even less than 10%). Before getting the HD3450, my cpu usage is more than 50%.

i think even without the uvd, P4 comps can now play 720p or 1080p files...
I discovered that yesterday when i installed and experimented with powerdvd8 ultra with all the addons...

from the mkv files converted to vob, for instance apocalypto, when just playing the mkv file using wmp classic my cpu peaks up to 80%-99%. but when i played the same hd file, now in vob, in powerdvd8 my cpu load does not exceed 25% with all other apps open like azureus, mozilla etc

so i think there is hope for older pcs to play hidef, the solution powerdvd8 ultra  ;D

my setup:
P4 3ghz prescott @ 3.4ghz
MSI 865PE Platinum
Twinmos 2x512mb 400ddr
Sapphire X1950 Pro
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on May 12, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Quote
so i think there is hope for older pcs to play hidef, the solution powerdvd8 ultra

Tried this one bro and the PQ is outstanding. Far better than MPC. Problem is its audio decoding. My 5.1 files plays only 2 channel audio.  :'(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: leomar on May 12, 2008 at 04:31 PM
Tried this one bro and the PQ is outstanding. Far better than MPC. Problem is its audio decoding. My 5.1 files plays only 2 channel audio.  :'(

nabasa ko nga somewhere sir ung feedback niyo about this... ginamit niyo ung PDVD8 for mkv files diba? tinatry ko ding iplay ung mkv file sa PDVD8 kaso hindi yata supported e... with the vob files, kaya niya naman i pass through spdif ung DD sir... pero since 2.1 lang ung PC speaker ko at malayo ung receiver ko sa PC hindi ko na try via pc to receiver connection...

paano mo nga pala sir napagana ung mkv file sa PowerDVD8?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: aXXo on May 12, 2008 at 06:26 PM
will post my HTPC setup later..

amd phenom 9500
gigabyte 780g (hdmi connection)
2gb ram
1.5 terabyte of hdd (full of mkv files 720p, 1080p)
dvdrw
focus nemesis 901 casing
32 inches sammy
klipsch pm 5.1
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on May 12, 2008 at 07:18 PM
OT: wow ha  :o  AxxO    :P
di' ba reserved na iya'n handle name na iya'n 
Ikaw din' kaya baka masama ka pa sa sina-sabi nang tunay Axxo na Flamer/Pretender.... ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: chariol on May 12, 2008 at 07:51 PM
my setup

abit ip35-e
intel quad core 9300
4 gig xms corsair ddr-800
seagate 320
seagate 500
powercolor 2600xt ddr4
asus dvd writer
22" samsung 225bw
toshiba 46x3500 full hd.
onkyo 605 with wharfedale speakers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on May 13, 2008 at 10:29 PM
just a question.

i'm using my htpc with my toshiba 32' lcd tv (native resolution of 13** x 768).

my current resolution (xp setting) for my htpc is 19** x 1080.

watching videos is great.. but for xp use, surfing the web, etc.. the text is really small (thin)..

how do i address this problem? should i just set up htpc at 1020 by 768 resolution?? or would my playback for my 720p and 1080p .mkv, .avi, etc. files be affected? or would this "hd files" play better if i set my resolution lower?

advise please.

thanks!

I don't think PQ would be affected by playing it in 13**x768. Even though your set accepts 1080p it cannot fully display all the pixels so basically it downconverts the 1080p to 720p. But if you insist, you might want to try and change into bigger fonts.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on May 13, 2008 at 10:55 PM
@glacierfrost: what is a UVD?


UVD is universal video decoder. It is developed by ati to play hidef formats through the video card. It takes to load off the cpu and outs it in the video card. The video card is more efficient in decoding because it is designed to do that specific task. I'm not sure if you can find agp video cards with uvd. Most of the places I've checked doesn't have it. Look for hd26xx series or hd3xxx series video cards.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 13, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Sir glacier, does this mean that those latest video cards has this uvd? If my video card has uvd does this automatically do the decoding or I have to set it first.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: leomar on May 14, 2008 at 12:40 AM
before upgrading your vc, try PowerDVD8 Ultra first... kapag hindi gumana, upgrade na  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on May 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Sir glacier, does this mean that those latest video cards has this uvd? If my video card has uvd does this automatically do the decoding or I have to set it first.

Yup almost all of the latest ati video cards have uvd. Nvidia also has its version of uvd called purevideo hd. You have to set hardware decoding first. Hardware acceleration cannot work if the software does not support it. I'm using mpc home cinema and so far all of the 720p mkv files I've tried works with it. You could also try powerdvd as leomar suggested or other software player. Try kmplayer or media player classic w/ ffdshow or w/ coreavc.

Even though my P4 3ghz could play all 720p files with no problems. What really got me to upgrade is because when my cpu is stressed to 50% it turns the cpu fan to full blast. The fan noise in my PC is too loud and too distracting for me, and really takes away the joy of watching movies.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on May 14, 2008 at 08:21 PM
nabasa ko nga somewhere sir ung feedback niyo about this... ginamit niyo ung PDVD8 for mkv files diba? tinatry ko ding iplay ung mkv file sa PDVD8 kaso hindi yata supported e... with the vob files, kaya niya naman i pass through spdif ung DD sir... pero since 2.1 lang ung PC speaker ko at malayo ung receiver ko sa PC hindi ko na try via pc to receiver connection...

paano mo nga pala sir napagana ung mkv file sa PowerDVD8?

Sorry for this late reply bro. Just change the extension names of the file from .mkv to .wmv.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 14, 2008 at 08:33 PM
@glacier

I'm already using K-lite as recommend in another thread wo far it works perfectly naman w/ the mkv files I downloaded. I just want to try lang yung sinabi nyo about uvd because I'm using Inno3d 9600gt at tama kayo it features purevideo hd. I just don't know how to do it lang.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: glacierfrost on May 15, 2008 at 12:25 PM
@glacier

I'm already using K-lite as recommend in another thread wo far it works perfectly naman w/ the mkv files I downloaded. I just want to try lang yung sinabi nyo about uvd because I'm using Inno3d 9600gt at tama kayo it features purevideo hd. I just don't know how to do it lang.  :)

Try to search how to enable dxva on purevideo hd. In mpc home cinema just make sure that dxva is checked then your good to go.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 15, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Here are my thoughts:

I do appreciate everybody’s itch to use hardware decoding for MKV playback but so far, the most reliable and flexible way is still through a powerful CPU (a.k.a. dual core CPU or equivalent) with lots of memory and a good software decoder (like The KM Player). 

This week, I just upgraded my graphics card to an HD3870 (from 8600GTS, originally 7600GT).  Result; nothing significant as far as playback quality of anything MKV in my hard drives.   This implies that my previous set-up with the 8600GTS was more than sufficient even for heavy 1080p contents.   Since I am a very light PC gamer already, I feel I just wasted money on this upgrade.

However, there is quite a nice reduction in CPU load for playback of original HD DVD through the MS Xbox360 add-on drive.  For reference, the 7600GT was borderline 100%, 8600GTS was steady at around 50-70% while the HD3870 manages 20-30% (under Vista and with lots of background processes including Norton Internet Security 2008, and endless torrents).

I’ve been reading about the MPC HC project (Media Player Classic Home Cinema) as very promising in terms of accessing the GPU power (somehow) but I’ve also read some playback/settings/compatibility limitations that experts are still trying to work out when using this player.   So at the moment, I’d rather wait it out.  But for those using P4 class CPUs or equivalent, it seems that MPC HC is really the best way to go, unless The KM Player can’t handle the content.  Converting MKV to VOB using MKV2VOB in order to playback using PowerDVD is another good option assuming the resulting 2-channel audio is acceptable.  Once the file is converted to VOB, it becomes a DVD format data hence very light on the CPU and can also take advantage of hardware decoding.   Not everyone is comfortable with the demux, conversion, mux sequence though.

Here’s what I keep in my PC for multimedia applications for the time being:

1.   Cyberlink PowerDVD 7.0 Ultra for HD DVD, and DVD playback, hardware decoding enabled of course.
2.   Daemon Tools as DVD emulator.
3.   The KM Player for MKV (VLC Player as back-up) Ver. 1428.  Personal favorite video renderer is Halli renderer (subjective).
4.   Windows Media Player 11 for AVI (with FFDShow and AC3Filter) and network file sharing with the Xbox360.
5.   MKVToolnix for playing around with MKV files.

I try other media players (and there is quite a lot of good options really) out of curiosity and they work quite well, but my needs are fully covered by the above applications already.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on May 15, 2008 at 12:59 PM
With the readings in this thread, i am now developing the interest of building an HTPC which i intend to use as an alternative while prices of bluray is still painful to my pocket. In fact since march, I have only five blurays.

To those who just built an HTPC can you kindly recommend the BASIC hardware i need, please. I only need the CPU. I will use my AX100 as my monitor. Will a 20k budget be enough? ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STRIKER on May 15, 2008 at 03:52 PM
With the readings in this thread, i am now developing the interest of building an HTPC which i intend to use as an alternative while prices of bluray is still painful to my pocket. In fact since march, I have only five blurays.

To those who just built an HTPC can you kindly recommend the BASIC hardware i need, please. I only need the CPU. I will use my AX100 as my monitor. Will a 20k budget be enough? ;)

it may be enough. 2 weeks ago a friend of mine built a cpu for his htpc for 25K and it had above average specs.
just research and see what may fit into your budget.

try tipidpc.com they usually have cheap tuff for sale there. you never know... yo might get lucky

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: highwayman on May 15, 2008 at 08:43 PM
it may be enough. 2 weeks ago a friend of mine built a cpu for his htpc for 25K and it had above average specs.
just research and see what may fit into your budget.

try tipidpc.com they usually have cheap tuff for sale there. you never know... yo might get lucky




hmmmm.... sounds interesting...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 15, 2008 at 09:10 PM
@glacier
K-lite also features mpc ver 6.4.9.1 just like mpc home cinema. I think mine would be good enough for now to play my mkv files.

@Clondalkin
Thanks for the info you posted sir. 

@jerix
I think 20k is enough to build your own htpc. You better check tipidpc.com or visit some stores in Gilmore, QC they offer best prices on computer parts, peripherals, etc.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: paquito_chips on May 15, 2008 at 10:51 PM
To those who just built an HTPC can you kindly recommend the BASIC hardware i need, please. I only need the CPU. I will use my AX100 as my monitor. Will a 20k budget be enough? ;)

kung cpu lang, a core2duo processor would suffice. better yet, either get an e8200 or e8400. it costs roughly 8k-8.5k pesos for the e8200. pahirapan ang stocks ng e8400. you still have more than 10k to spare.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: SF40 on May 16, 2008 at 03:21 AM

just like the previous post with a budget of 20K im planning this weekend to build a HTPC (rig only) i would like to seek for your recommendations and advice ( more on mkv viewing and torrents download )

1. may i ask what is the best processor an AMD or intel for htpc in considerations little of pc gaming and PS3 pls include the pros and cons

2. mobo? on board video card or dedicated?

3. ram 1 gb>? 2gb? 3gb? 4gb?

4. Video card?

5. sound card ?

6. casing ?

7. HDD?

kung pwede na din po breakdown of prices and store where to purchase (my budget is limited to 20K)

TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 16, 2008 at 06:18 AM
check this site bro

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=940972 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=940972)

there's a lot of suggestions on HTPC setups ranging from low-end to hi-end.

hope this helps ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on May 16, 2008 at 07:47 AM
check this site bro

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=940972 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=940972)

there's a lot of suggestions on HTPC setups ranging from low-end to hi-end.

hope this helps ;)

Nice and rich info from this site -- but are these parts available kaya locally and in what shop bros?
I am not a computer techy and and when i purchased my first desktop i just relied on what the shop recommended. So if ever, i will have to do the same. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 16, 2008 at 08:18 AM
Nice and rich info from this site -- but are these parts available kaya locally and in what shop bros?
I am not a computer techy and and when i purchased my first desktop i just relied on what the shop recommended. So if ever, i will have to do the same. ;)

i guess most of the parts are available locally. check this PC Shops Price Guide (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=65195.0) by tambutsoo and also this low-end HTPC setup recommendation at only 12.5k. http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=78699.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=78699.0)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 16, 2008 at 09:46 AM
Yeah that AVS thread is really like an encyclopedia when it comes to HTPC set-up.  So I'll try to give some practical guidelines to complement all the information you can get from that site.  These are just my opinions.


CPU:  AMD or Intel.  Doesn't matter.  Just buy the fastest, meanest multi-core Intel or EQUIVALENT AMD that you can afford.  Intel's E6xxx and Q6600 seem to be very popular examples.  Any of these multi-core CPU's will make you happy but the more powerful the CPU is, the happier you will be for that blood thirsty MKV contents, especially 1080p ones.   Just like to stress once again, CPU is the most critical component at the moment for MKV playback.  You need to do some reading on the current line of CPUs and find your sweet spot in terms of budget.  No need to delve on full technical details.  For starters just look at the clock speed, the number of cores and the front side bus speed - and then make 100% sure that your chosen MOBO supports the CPU.    New models of MOBOs are OK in terms of compatibility but if you are buying an old model MOBO, then be very careful


MEM:  It appears the mainstream type right now would be the 667 or 800Mhz DDR2 (dual channel types).  You don't need to buy those expensive and cool looking Corsairs with 1066MHz clock, but I would recommend reliable makes such as Crucial, Kingston, Buffalo, I/O Data, etc.  Nowadays there are 2 types of "bulk" memories;  the "totally generic" bulk and those with rather "unpopular makes.  You can save money by trying them as well.  Compatibility with popular MOBOs is not 100% guaranteed but working chances are very high.   If your PC is retail (Dell, etc.), then stay away from generic mem.   For Vista, you need at least 2GB.  For XP, you need at least 1GB.  However, I personally think the sweet spot for MKV is at least 2GB.    BTW, dual channel memory banks should be installed in PAIRS, otherwise, it would run at half the rated clock speed.  So if you want 1GB of mem, then you have to install 2x512MB using the appropriately paired (usually color coded) mem bank slots in your MOBO.


HDD:  A 720p MKV is at least 4.5GB big.  1080p can range from 6B to 40GB.  Get as much GB as you can afford.    Seagate, Western Digital, Samsung, Hitachi...doesn't matter which make.  7200 rpm, 16GB cache has become the mainstream.  You don't need those expensive models with higher cache for your personal application


Sound Card:  If you are not that picky, the on-board 7.1 channel audio of most modern MOBOs is more than sufficient.  Confirm that optical out  (SPDIF) is available on the MOBO (it usually is for new MOBOs) if you want to go multi-channel connected to an AVR.  Otherwise, you need a GOOD 2.1 channel set of PC speakers at the very least.   Something with powerful subwoofer like that of Logicool Z4 would be nice.   But if you already have a multi-channel AVR and speakers set HT, then just connect your PC to the extra optical input of the AVR.


Video Card:  You mentioned "little gaming" but how little is little?  Once the word gaming comes out, then you can forget about the on-board video unless your image of gaming is Free Cell.   The general consensus is that Nvidia is better for gaming overall but AMD/ATI is better for HTPC, BUT, if you are interested enough to analyze the detailed performance of each particular model, you'd find out that it really depends on the particular GPU.    Doesn't matter which maker you choose because most of them follow the reference design provided by Nvidia or ATI, then just put their logo on the fan.

As I personally confirmed recently, you definitely don't need a high end card like HD3870 or 8800GT for an HTPC.   Depending on your gaming needs, I think you'd find your balance on any of the following GPUs:  HD2600XT, HD3650, HD3850, 8600GT, 8600GTS.    Cheaper cards MAY work just fine but the determining factor here is the kind of games you want to play, not the MKVs you want to watch.  More expensive cards are definitely overkill.

You may also want to read on the reviews of the new MOBOs based on ATI's 780 chipset with integrated graphics.


Casing:  Totally subjective.  Some like it vertical, some like it horizontal with "AV equipment look".  Some like it in whatever kind of color, some prefer vanilla beige or pitch black.   Some like it with transparent window with a nice view of the innards of the PC, some prefer the traditional "closed" container.   Some like it cute and slim, some like it huge and imposing with lots of spaces for future expansion and additional cooling.


Power Supply Unit:  If your interest in gaming is not that much, PSU wattage and amperage are not critical.   However, the given ratings of the PSU should be HONEST and not simply overhyped specs, that's why popular and reliable makes are recommended.


I only started to browse through tipidpc this year. Yeah you can find some nice parts there at good prices.  You don't need to buy brand new items, but make sure they are in perfect working condition.   Stay away from "REPAIRED" parts.  

The member Tambutsoo started a thread under Sources for an entry level HTPC less than 20K (including part models).   Please have a look at that one.

BTW, how come nobody seems to factor in the cost of the OS license in the budget???  Is it "free" in the Philippines???   An OEM OS would cost me at least $100 in Tokyo  ;D ;D ;D

Finally, if you suddenly get afflicted with SARS of the HTPC strain, then PM me your hard to find exotic PC part and I can source it out in Tokyo.  ;D ;D ;D







Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on May 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM

BTW, how come nobody seems to factor in the cost of the OS license in the budget???  Is it "free" in the Philippines???   An OEM OS would cost me at least $100 in Tokyo  ;D ;D ;D


Bro --nice insights-- but on the above....ssshhhhhhh!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM
nice additional pointers sir clondalkin.

no one includes the OS in the computation as most pinoys use the tiangge copies ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 16, 2008 at 10:09 AM
cheap HTPC setup:

proc: amd x2 4800+ = 3500
mobo: emaxx 780g = 3400 (built in hdmi out and can decode mkv)
mem: 2x1gb ddr2 800 = 2100
hdd: 500gb   = 4500
odd: 20x dvdrw = 1500
casing: 2500 (901 microfly/DIVA)
psu: 3000 hec (you need a stable psu for a HTPC)

total: 20.5k

i can help you build this setup - pm me..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM
There is a tipidpc member based in tokyo selling exotic parts, prices are exotic too hehe ;D I agree that having a good processor eases playback, hardware acceleration from video cards still has some issues.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 16, 2008 at 10:22 AM
cheap HTPC setup:

proc: amd x2 4800+ = 3500
mobo: emaxx 780g = 3400 (built in hdmi out and can decode mkv)
mem: 2x1gb ddr2 800 = 2100
hdd: 500gb   = 4500
odd: 20x dvdrw = 1500
casing: 2500 (901 microfly/DIVA)
psu: 3000 hec (you need a stable psu for a HTPC)

total: 20.5k

i can help you build this setup - pm me..

hi sir,

does the emaxx have a built-in spdif coax or optical out?
how many watts is the hec psu? is that 3000 the cost of the psu or the model?
horizontal mount ba ang casing?

thanks ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM
merong SPDIF yung emaxx..
i suggest sana yung gigabyte kasi merong optical out kaso wala pang stock..

hec 550ab yung psu costs around 3k+

yung casing is like the xpc shuttle style.. 10"x12"x14" HxWxL (approximate lang ito)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM
merong SPDIF yung emaxx..
i suggest sana yung gigabyte kasi merong optical out kaso wala pang stock..

hec 550ab yung psu costs around 3k+

yung casing is like the xpc shuttle style.. 10"x12"x14" HxWxL (approximate lang ito)

k sir. thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: paquito_chips on May 16, 2008 at 11:40 AM
well done, ser clondalkin. if you're not really in to gaming, a 20k budget is ok for a decent htpc. for me, i'd spend the extra cash for the speakers and a plasma.  :)

OT: i'm a noob here in pdvd so pardon my ignorance. but what is SARS?  ;D

anyway, here's my htgpc (home theater and gaming). i try to minimize noise as possible by using low-speed, mid-cfm fans on the radiator. sometimes i connect it to the tv kasi sya yung nasa gitna ng living room (not in pic). ipon mode muna sa plasma.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/16-front.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/18-frontsideremote.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/23-res.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/24-loop.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/31-unisinkcloseup.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/20-top.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/15-front.jpg)


i need to renovate the living room. furniture is all wood, no upholstery. tsk...  >:(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM
a more cheaper alternative would be: (no particular with the looks, psu, hdd)

proc: amd x2 4800+ = 3500
mobo: emaxx 780g = 3400 (built in hdmi out and can decode mkv)
mem: 1gb ddr2 667 = 1000
hdd: 80gb   = 1500
odd: 20x dvdrw = 1500
casing/psu: 1500 (generics)

total: 12.4k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2008 at 11:50 AM
I would splurge on the case, so that it will match my other av gears :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: docelmo on May 16, 2008 at 12:05 PM
a more cheaper alternative would be: (no particular with the looks, psu, hdd)

proc: amd x2 4800+ = 3500
mobo: emaxx 780g = 3400 (built in hdmi out and can decode mkv)
mem: 1gb ddr2 667 = 1000
hdd: 80gb   = 1500
odd: 20x dvdrw = 1500
casing/psu: 1500 (generics)

total: 12.4k

Woohoo!!! nice....time to build an htpc!!!
Thanks sir!
 ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM
no one includes the OS in the computation as most pinoys use the tiangge copies ;D

Ok.  So let's be honest and put 100 pesos as budget for OS Tiangge Version.  Total budget is 20,100 pesos then   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 16, 2008 at 12:14 PM
a more cheaper alternative would be: (no particular with the looks, psu, hdd)

proc: amd x2 4800+ = 3500
mobo: emaxx 780g = 3400 (built in hdmi out and can decode mkv)
mem: 1gb ddr2 667 = 1000
hdd: 80gb   = 1500
odd: 20x dvdrw = 1500
casing/psu: 1500 (generics)

total: 12.4k

I would suggest to give an extra 4k and you'll have an extra 1gig of ram and 250gig of hd. Then you are good to go!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2008 at 12:18 PM
If you plan to store hi-def movies and lossless music files 80gb is definitely not enough.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 16, 2008 at 12:31 PM
If you plan to store hi-def movies and lossless music files 80gb is definitely not enough.

a cheaper alternative is to burn it on a dvdr  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 16, 2008 at 12:33 PM
I would want to splurge on a Microsoft or Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse set if I have extra budget.

80GB...Hmmm... take out the space reserved for installation of the OS and all relevant applications +4GB free memory for stable operation of the PC, I think you'd be left with about 50GB for data.   That would suffice for 10 720p titles at a time.  After watching, then just burn them right away on a DVD-R for archiving.    Sayang kung i-delete because ang tagal mag-download ng 4.5GB.

Kung 1080p, 4 or 5 titles depende sa size.   Bitin Kuya.   ;D

Ooops.. I forgot something, the OS, especially Vista has a funky way of "borrowing" free memory while downloading.   For instance, while you may be downloading a total of 10GB of contents, don't be surprised to see that your remaining free space in the hard drive has been reduced by "significantly more" than 10GB.  I haven't really figured out how much the OS borrows temporarily (as buffer???) but it is significant.   Binabalik naman ng OS later - although not immediately after the download but sometime in an uncertain future time.  Bigla nalang tataas ulit yung free mem.   Thus, kung 50GB lang available memory, you might not be able to download 10 720p titles afterall.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2008 at 01:07 PM
If you choose to burn the hd files to dvd make sure you use quality dvds, i had some bad experience burning some movies in dvd (even in the slowest setting) where the copy skips when played.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 16, 2008 at 01:36 PM
agree with john.. downside yan pag dvdr at tumagal at nadumihan, paktay na.. hehe


kaya maganda pa rin HDD, invest in a 1terabyte :) mura naman na today ang mga high capacity harddisks..

sakin nga kulang na yung 1.5terabyte sa mga mkv files ko eh.. planning to buy external 1tb..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Check on May 16, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Sirs, my set-up.

Intel E2160 1.8 Dual Core
Emaxx NF7050HD
2GB DDR2 Memory PQI
250 GB HDDSeagate SATA
Palit Daytona 7300GT 256MB ddr Sonic

Pwede na ba for HTPC set-up? Ano kulang maliban sa monitor?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 16, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Sirs, my set-up.
Intel E2160 1.8 Dual Core
Emaxx NF7050HD
2GB DDR2 Memory PQI
250 GB HDDSeagate SATA
Palit Daytona 7300GT 256MB ddr Sonic
Pwede na ba for HTPC set-up? Ano kulang maliban sa monitor?

Enough for playback of 720p contents.  Might choke on 1080p contents but not a bother because most everybody is choking on 1080p.   If you are planning on buying add-on BD/HD DVD drive in the future, you must upgrade your 7300GT to at least 7600GT.

In case di ka pa bumibili, I think it's wise to increase your budget a little bit and go for E4xxx series instead; the core 2 duos with larger cache.   Tapos change the video card to HD3450.

Anong kulang?   Keyboard, mouse, DVD player, DVD writer, speaker   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 16, 2008 at 04:27 PM
a more cheaper alternative would be: (no particular with the looks, psu, hdd)

proc: amd x2 4800+ = 3500
mobo: emaxx 780g = 3400 (built in hdmi out and can decode mkv)
mem: 1gb ddr2 667 = 1000
hdd: 80gb   = 1500
odd: 20x dvdrw = 1500
casing/psu: 1500 (generics)

total: 12.4k

sir,

may capability ba ang emaxx na mag crossfire like the gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H. crossfire daw is using a separate graphic card that works together with the built-in gpu. recommend ng gigabyte ay hd3450.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 16, 2008 at 04:44 PM
yes pede siya hybrid crossfire.. same chipset naman yan different brand lang..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Check on May 16, 2008 at 05:12 PM
Thanks for the quick reply Sir Clondalkin!  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: highwayman on May 16, 2008 at 05:40 PM
how much is a blue ray drive nowadays?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kane on May 16, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Hi guys, just want to ask if its ok to play your hi-def files from an external hard drive?  Hindi naman mag lag or mag off sync yung audio?  Especially with 1080p files.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 16, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Hi guys, just want to ask if its ok to play your hi-def files from an external hard drive?  Hindi naman mag lag or mag off sync yung audio?  Especially with 1080p files.

Perfectly OK if your system is powerful enough.  It also helps if the external drive is fast.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: SF40 on May 17, 2008 at 01:36 AM
Yeah that AVS thread is really like an encyclopedia when it comes to HTPC set-up.  So I'll try to give some practical guidelines to complement all the information you can get from that site.  These are just my opinions.


CPU:  AMD or Intel.  Doesn't matter.  Just buy the fastest, meanest multi-core Intel or EQUIVALENT AMD that you can afford.  Intel's E6xxx and Q6600 seem to be very popular examples.  Any of these multi-core CPU's will make you happy but the more powerful the CPU is, the happier you will be for that blood thirsty MKV contents, especially 1080p ones.   Just like to stress once again, CPU is the most critical component at the moment for MKV playback.  You need to do some reading on the current line of CPUs and find your sweet spot in terms of budget.  No need to delve on full technical details.  For starters just look at the clock speed, the number of cores and the front side bus speed - and then make 100% sure that your chosen MOBO supports the CPU.    New models of MOBOs are OK in terms of compatibility but if you are buying an old model MOBO, then be very careful


MEM:  It appears the mainstream type right now would be the 667 or 800Mhz DDR2 (dual channel types).  You don't need to buy those expensive and cool looking Corsairs with 1066MHz clock, but I would recommend reliable makes such as Crucial, Kingston, Buffalo, I/O Data, etc.  Nowadays there are 2 types of "bulk" memories;  the "totally generic" bulk and those with rather "unpopular makes.  You can save money by trying them as well.  Compatibility with popular MOBOs is not 100% guaranteed but working chances are very high.   If your PC is retail (Dell, etc.), then stay away from generic mem.   For Vista, you need at least 2GB.  For XP, you need at least 1GB.  However, I personally think the sweet spot for MKV is at least 2GB.    BTW, dual channel memory banks should be installed in PAIRS, otherwise, it would run at half the rated clock speed.  So if you want 1GB of mem, then you have to install 2x512MB using the appropriately paired (usually color coded) mem bank slots in your MOBO.


HDD:  A 720p MKV is at least 4.5GB big.  1080p can range from 6B to 40GB.  Get as much GB as you can afford.    Seagate, Western Digital, Samsung, Hitachi...doesn't matter which make.  7200 rpm, 16GB cache has become the mainstream.  You don't need those expensive models with higher cache for your personal application


Sound Card:  If you are not that picky, the on-board 7.1 channel audio of most modern MOBOs is more than sufficient.  Confirm that optical out  (SPDIF) is available on the MOBO (it usually is for new MOBOs) if you want to go multi-channel connected to an AVR.  Otherwise, you need a GOOD 2.1 channel set of PC speakers at the very least.   Something with powerful subwoofer like that of Logicool Z4 would be nice.   But if you already have a multi-channel AVR and speakers set HT, then just connect your PC to the extra optical input of the AVR.


Video Card:  You mentioned "little gaming" but how little is little?  Once the word gaming comes out, then you can forget about the on-board video unless your image of gaming is Free Cell.   The general consensus is that Nvidia is better for gaming overall but AMD/ATI is better for HTPC, BUT, if you are interested enough to analyze the detailed performance of each particular model, you'd find out that it really depends on the particular GPU.    Doesn't matter which maker you choose because most of them follow the reference design provided by Nvidia or ATI, then just put their logo on the fan.

As I personally confirmed recently, you definitely don't need a high end card like HD3870 or 8800GT for an HTPC.   Depending on your gaming needs, I think you'd find your balance on any of the following GPUs:  HD2600XT, HD3650, HD3850, 8600GT, 8600GTS.    Cheaper cards MAY work just fine but the determining factor here is the kind of games you want to play, not the MKVs you want to watch.  More expensive cards are definitely overkill.

You may also want to read on the reviews of the new MOBOs based on ATI's 780 chipset with integrated graphics.


Casing:  Totally subjective.  Some like it vertical, some like it horizontal with "AV equipment look".  Some like it in whatever kind of color, some prefer vanilla beige or pitch black.   Some like it with transparent window with a nice view of the innards of the PC, some prefer the traditional "closed" container.   Some like it cute and slim, some like it huge and imposing with lots of spaces for future expansion and additional cooling.


Power Supply Unit:  If your interest in gaming is not that much, PSU wattage and amperage are not critical.   However, the given ratings of the PSU should be HONEST and not simply overhyped specs, that's why popular and reliable makes are recommended.


I only started to browse through tipidpc this year. Yeah you can find some nice parts there at good prices.  You don't need to buy brand new items, but make sure they are in perfect working condition.   Stay away from "REPAIRED" parts. 

The member Tambutsoo started a thread under Sources for an entry level HTPC less than 20K (including part models).   Please have a look at that one.

BTW, how come nobody seems to factor in the cost of the OS license in the budget???  Is it "free" in the Philippines???   An OEM OS would cost me at least $100 in Tokyo  ;D ;D ;D

Finally, if you suddenly get afflicted with SARS of the HTPC strain, then PM me your hard to find exotic PC part and I can source it out in Tokyo.  ;D ;D ;D








sir clondalkin, hd_movies, Gnew, john5479 thank you very much for the suggestions, insights and recommendations ..... more ideas the better
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: SF40 on May 17, 2008 at 02:20 AM
well done, ser clondalkin. if you're not really in to gaming, a 20k budget is ok for a decent htpc. for me, i'd spend the extra cash for the speakers and a plasma.  :)

OT: i'm a noob here in pdvd so pardon my ignorance. but what is SARS?  ;D

anyway, here's my htgpc (home theater and gaming). i try to minimize noise as possible by using low-speed, mid-cfm fans on the radiator. sometimes i connect it to the tv kasi sya yung nasa gitna ng living room (not in pic). ipon mode muna sa plasma.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/16-front.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/18-frontsideremote.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/23-res.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/24-loop.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/31-unisinkcloseup.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/20-top.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/equint/lc20mwc/15-front.jpg)


i need to renovate the living room. furniture is all wood, no upholstery. tsk...  >:(
sir ganda naman ng nasa luob ng htpc mo parang sa auto (sasakyan) hehehe paki share naman po ng set up nyo ganda din nung casing ... tia
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Speedracer on May 17, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Wow! What a souped up rig! Ganda boss congrats! ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: squatt3r on May 17, 2008 at 10:49 AM
upgraded my htpc rig: Logitech MX3200

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/Image085Small.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: paquito_chips on May 17, 2008 at 12:24 PM
speedracer and sf40... thanks po.  :D

here's my specs:
Asus Commando mobo
Intel E6600 2.4ghz (oc'd @ 3.3ghz 24/7 use)
OCZ Platinum DDR2-800 2x1gig
MSI 8800GTX (vanilla version)
Creative Soundblaster Audigy ZX
Antec Truepower Quattro 850watts
Silverstone LC20M case (with VFD and imon remote)
Asus dvd writer
22" HP w2207h monitor
Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard
1x 80gig Seagate 7200.7 (sata)
1x 320gig Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (sata)
1x 120gig Maxtor (sata) -- external via esata, no enclosure, not in pic. wala na kasi space if you'll notice.
*** all drives in a non-raid configuration

... and for the cooling:
D-Tek Fuzion v1 cpu waterblock
D-Tek Uni-sink GTX
Swiftech MCW60 gpu waterblock
Swiftech microres
Swiftech MCP355 12 VDC Pump with Petra's top
Thermochill PA120.3
Tygon tubing R3603 7/16" ID 5/8" OD
OCZ XTC mem cooler
3x 120x25mm Scythe S-Flex SFF21F (push)
3x 120x38mm San Ace 102 (pull) -- 7v mod. sobrang ingay pag naka-12v.
2x 80x25mm Thermaltake fans -- those orange fans as exhaust
Wilkins distilled water + Pentosin G12 coolant additive + Petra's nuke

*****

yes. this is a bit overkill for an htpc build. my rig is really concentrated for gaming (crysis, call of duty 4, assassins creed, etc.) i bought 90% of the specs from the other forum. yep. tpc  ;)

but now, i'm trying to balance my life as a gamer-slash-movie enthusiast. lalo na ngayon na i'm hooked here in pdvd.

next up in my list is setting up the living room. have to get one of those cozy sofas. (tsaka ang hirap itago then ilabas yung projector. hind pa sya naka-mount. tapos yung pj screen ko nakakapagod rin itago. diy lang kasi.  >:( )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: keema on May 17, 2008 at 08:06 PM
dito na lang po ako magtatanong kse po parang related din dito yung question ko...:D
may dvd player po ako na may usb input...nakakapag basa sya ng movies na .avi.
eh question ko po is kse po sa usb ko lang nilalagay ung movies...tapos palit pag may bago akong download...eh may 160gig akong portable na hardisk tanong ko po eh pwede ba un na yun na lang na portable na hardisk ko yung ikakabit ko? ginawa ko un kaso hindi naman nya nababasa, yung dvd player...so may way ba, kunyari format ko na gawing kong fat32..mga ganun??
or kung may alam po kayo..thanks...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: squatt3r on May 18, 2008 at 12:01 AM
sir dapat NTFS pag pinormat so that large files such as .mkv extension could be copied.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nutkrakr on May 18, 2008 at 11:06 PM
i'm using theatertek software, and currently using windows media player with codecs installed by my great friend to play mkv files in 720p and 1080p format.  my friend updated the codec so i can play bluray type files through my computer, now comes the problem, whenever i'll use theatertek for my dvds, it'll ask me to reinstall theatertek, there seems to be some conflicts with the bluray codec and theatertek. does anybody here who's using theatertek with a bluray optical drive who's not facing same problem with my htpc? just want to know the proper settings
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on May 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Here's a suggestion... create two user profiles in windows
one that uses original codec so you can watch 720p,1080p stuff, and

another user for the blue ray codec stuff

might work...might not...
but it looks like the new codec wiped out the old codec which theatertek depends on.


 
i'm using theatertek software, and currently using windows media player with codecs installed by my great friend to play mkv files in 720p and 1080p format.  my friend updated the codec so i can play bluray type files through my computer, now comes the problem, whenever i'll use theatertek for my dvds, it'll ask me to reinstall theatertek, there seems to be some conflicts with the bluray codec and theatertek. does anybody here who's using theatertek with a bluray optical drive who's not facing same problem with my htpc? just want to know the proper settings
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nutkrakr on May 19, 2008 at 06:38 PM
try ko rin, thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GioSpike on May 19, 2008 at 08:29 PM
January 9, 2008
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/13th%20month%20pay/Momo.jpg)

2 weeks ago, birthday ng parents ko sa province.  Binigay ko na as a gift yung Logitech Z5300 at 32" LCD na gamit ko dito sa Manila(Para may reason ako mag-upgrade rin! hehehe!). 

Kaya last week, start na ako magcheck ng ipapalit sa Z5300. I was thinking of replacing it with Klipsch Promedia or Logitech Z5500.  I ended up buying this yesterday...

May 18, 2008
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/HT%20Room/Front-Wharfedale84640x480.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/HT%20Room/Rear-WharfedaleWH2640x480.jpg)
Receiver: Yamaha Natural Sound AV Receiver RX-V620
Speakers: Front: Wharfedale 8.4, Rear/Center: Wharfedale WH2


PC Specs:
Mobo: ASROCK Conroe1333-D667 R2.0
Processor: Intel® Core2Duo E6750
Memory: Team Elite PC6400 DDR2 800MHz 1GB*2 (Dual)
Power
Graphics Card: Powercolor ATI HD 3850
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
HDD: 160gb Seagate SATA HDD (Primary), 320gb Seagate SATA HDD, 250gb Seagate SATA HDD
ODD: LG 16X Multi DVD Writer with Light Scribe
PSU: HEC Winpower 550 Watts
LCD: Samsung 22" 2232GW


GioSpike's HTPC


May 27, 2008

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/HT%20Room/MyHTPC-May272008.jpg)

Toshiba Regza 37C3500 37" LCDTV
Yamaha Natural Sound AV Receiver RX-V620
Speakers: Front: Wharfedale 8.4 Rear/Center: Wharfedale WH2
Intel® Core2Duo E6750
ASROCK Conroe1333-D667 R2.0
Team Elite PC6400 DDR2 800MHz 1GB*2 (Dual) Power
Powercolor ATI HD 3850
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
160gb Seagate SATA HDD
320gb Seagate SATA HDD 250gb
Seagate SATA HDD
LG 16X Multi DVD Writer with Light Scribe
HEC Winpower 550 Watts
Logitech MX™5000 Bluetooth Keyboard
Logitech  MX™610 Laser Cordless Mouse
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STRIKER on May 19, 2008 at 09:18 PM
just want to share what i am currently running

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/S-T-R-I-K-E-R/htpc/DSC_0103.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/S-T-R-I-K-E-R/htpc/DSC_0114.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/S-T-R-I-K-E-R/htpc/DSC_0119.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/S-T-R-I-K-E-R/htpc/DSC_0123.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/S-T-R-I-K-E-R/htpc/DSC_0120.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on May 19, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Woow!!  :o :o Your gears rock bro. Is that an 875? I like your Silverstone casing. Planning on getting one myself. Man you should post these on ht gallery.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STRIKER on May 20, 2008 at 12:43 PM
not quite dan, its an sr805.

di pa pede i share to sa HT gallery. temporary lang po ito till i get "the room" done. kasi at th moment bare concrete pa yung room. kaya ayun, for now eto muna setup ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: skylynx888 on May 20, 2008 at 01:51 PM
nice one sir striker!!!! pareho tayong onkyo 805  ;D ;D.... tsaka mukhang Cayin mt-12 din yan tube amp mo ah!!! Great gears... pwede mo na nga post sa ht gallery  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 20, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Konting chismis about my recent upgrade to HD3870 from 8600GTS.

Uninstalled the driver that came with the card.  Ran 3DGuru Drive Cleaner to remove all remnants of the old driver then installed Catalyst 8.4 from ATI.

Observations:

Playback Smoothness:  Still no significant difference between the 8600GTS and HD3870 both for 720p and 1080p MKV contents using The KM Player.  For VLC, "parang" gumaang" ng konti with the HD3870.

CPU Resource Usage:  Still hovering between 25-60% for 720p playback both for The KM Player and VLC.  Still hovering between 35-70% sa 1080p playback.   Kapag nag-kick-in bigla yung background processes ng Vista and/or the hard drive becomes busy for some reason, CPU resource can spike to 90%.   If I download/upload gazillions of torrents simultaneously and the hard drive is busy as hell, that adds 10-15% on the CPU loading depende sa traffic ng data.  

HD DVD add-on playback using PowerDVD Ver 7 is smooth as silk and light as sushi.   Loading time is definitely faster than the Xbox360  now.  Hopefully, the price of BD add-on drive goes down soonest.  Mahal pa masyado eh (the Pioneer BD drive still costs around $220 as of last weekend).

Image Quality:  ATI is clearly of a different league in this category.   VLC image quality s*cked on the 8600GTS but it's absolutely gorgeous on the HD3870.   Using The KM Player, the 8600GTS was certainly great but the HD 3870 was awesome.   Default ATI colors may be too vivid and rich with high contrast,  but using the ATI Catalyst Control Center, everything is tweakable to match ones preferences.  Wife says the 1080p HD r*ps look more 3D on the ATI card.  I think so too, and I've been having headaches as side effect of that.   ;D

ATI Powerplay:   Automatic adjustment of the GPU clock depending on the application - GPU underclocks during idle and 2D applications - works like a charm.  The GPU remains at around 48 degrees C kahit ilang oras manood ng HD.   Default fan setting is surprisingly not annoyingly loud even though it is a single slot design (the new reference design of Sapphire for the 3870).  Should be beneficial for someone like me who runs the PC continuously for long hours everyday while torrenting due to lower power drain.   On the other hand, I still hope experts would be able to tap the GPU power for MKV playback somehow.  The ATI Control Center indicates no more than 10% usage of the GPU while running The KM Player.

Also I'm using a stock Delta PSU rated 400W which is less than the recommended power capacity of ATI.  I looped 3DMark06 during an entire night with all settings maxed out.  Not a single failed test.  Maxed out settings of DIRT and COD4 and played for an hour or so during the weekend - framerates remained nice and smooth.  No hiccups whatsoever.  No artifacts at all.   So yung recommended minimum na 450W ng ATI is too safe I think.   Keypoint is the quality of the PSU and the amperage of the 12V rails for stable operation.

My conclusion:  Finally very happy with the HD3870 upgrade.  

Anybody wants to buy the 8600GTS at a reasonable price?  It's only a month old (purchased on 28 April 2008).   Great for gaming and Nvidia's Purevideo HD is not bad for HD viewing per se.  ;D ;D  


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: m0b1u5 on May 20, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Here's my current (2 year old) rig...

Proc  : AMD X2 3800+
Mobo : Asus M2N Mobo with onboard sound
HDD  : 160GB SATA
          250GB SATA
          200GB SATA
RAM  : 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2 800
ODD  : 2 x LG DVD/RW (1 internal, 1 external)
VC    : 512MB DDR2 128bit MSI 7300LE Graphics Card
TV    : 19" Widescreen Viewsonic LCD
Case : Generic Case with generic 350W PS

alin ba kailangan ko pa i-upgrade para maging decent HTPC setup?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 22, 2008 at 03:37 AM
check out this cool looking HTPC casing
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sharka-computers_1999_2152617)

blends very well with the current av gears

Zalman HD160 Plus (http://sharkacomputers.com/zahdpl1.html)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 22, 2008 at 07:37 AM
check also this ready-made HTPCs

http://www.okoromedia.com/index.htm (http://www.okoromedia.com/index.htm)

here's one of their product at US$3795 ONLY ;D

(http://www.okoromedia.com/workpics/xserBsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 22, 2008 at 09:51 AM
A very cool casing Gnew but with that price you already can build your own htpc.  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 22, 2008 at 11:30 AM
What about this.   A very comfortable high-back computer chair.  Made in Japan.  Price:  Approximately $1,700.   What do you think?  I got shocked by the price, that I totally forgot the brand name... ;D ;D ;D

The same store sells the ULTIMATE European made bed mattress for Yen1,000,000 (about 400K pesos).  Selling point:  A normal person spends 1/3 of his life lying on the bed.    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Speedracer on May 24, 2008 at 10:30 AM
check also this ready-made HTPCs

http://www.okoromedia.com/index.htm (http://www.okoromedia.com/index.htm)

here's one of their product at US$3795 ONLY ;D

(http://www.okoromedia.com/workpics/xserBsm.jpg)

Wow!!!  :o Pati presyo boss wow din  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 24, 2008 at 11:28 AM
A very cool casing Gnew but with that price you already can build your own htpc.  ;D  ;D  ;D

mahal nga dyerds no? naghahanap din me ng casing like the antec fusion na around 4k max kahit walang volume control. meron naman antec na mga 5k na may kasamang 380watts psu, pero gusto ko sana magkabit ng hec 550watts. meron kaya nito?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM
mahal nga dyerds no? naghahanap din me ng casing like the antec fusion na around 4k max kahit walang volume control. meron naman antec na mga 5k na may kasamang 380watts psu, pero gusto ko sana magkabit ng hec 550watts. meron kaya nito?

PM sent.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Marl☆1 on May 26, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Just to share my recent PC upgrade to experience HD on my desktop...
Am actually checkin' out Quad and branded pc's for the first time.  ;)
Hope it's worth the investment...

(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wugJu148L._PC_.jpg) (http://resources.vr-zone.com/newspics/Sep06/28/ic2q_rgb_1670-s.jpg)

HP Pavillion M9299D [mod]
Neptune / Intel Core 2 Quad - Q6700 2.66GHz
3GB ram / 320GB SATA / Super Multi Drive + Lightscribe SATA
NVIDIA GeForce 8400

HP w2207h 22" monitor

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Y60Tmw2UL.jpg)
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:UJnka4s3aZ1XWM:http://tech.china.com/zh_cn/hardware/diy/hangqing/11063184/20071030/images/2007103014331843658300.jpg)

The screen's HDMI-in allows 720p / 1080i HD viewing via PC.  Still ordering a BD player / burner via the web to complete the set-up.  ;D

Cheers!
Marl_1

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: sanmig_ph on May 26, 2008 at 10:57 PM
nice bro , HP w2207h 22" monitor , wish list ko din yan :D
congrats :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 26, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Just to share my recent PC upgrade to experience HD on my desktop...
Am actually checkin' out Quad and branded pc's for the first time.  ;)
Hope it's worth the investment...



HP Pavillion M9299D [mod]
Neptune / Intel Core 2 Quad - Q6700 2.66GHz
3GB ram / 320GB SATA / Super Multi Drive + Lightscribe SATA
NVIDIA GeForce 8400

HP w2207h 22" monitor

The screen's HDMI-in allows 720p / 1080i HD viewing via PC.  Still ordering a BD player / burner via the web to complete the set-up.  ;D

Cheers!
Marl_1



Nice, thats a lot of horsepower you got there, there shouldn't be problems playing blu ray or hidef mkvs. Thats my next project, upgrading to quad core.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 26, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Wow! Nice setup sir Marl_1 . How much was the damage?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: steelcrazy on May 27, 2008 at 04:56 AM
Just to share my recent PC upgrade to experience HD on my desktop...
Am actually checkin' out Quad and branded pc's for the first time.  ;)
Hope it's worth the investment...

(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wugJu148L._PC_.jpg) (http://resources.vr-zone.com/newspics/Sep06/28/ic2q_rgb_1670-s.jpg)

HP Pavillion M9299D [mod]
Neptune / Intel Core 2 Quad - Q6700 2.66GHz
3GB ram / 320GB SATA / Super Multi Drive + Lightscribe SATA
NVIDIA GeForce 8400

HP w2207h 22" monitor

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Y60Tmw2UL.jpg)
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:UJnka4s3aZ1XWM:http://tech.china.com/zh_cn/hardware/diy/hangqing/11063184/20071030/images/2007103014331843658300.jpg)

The screen's HDMI-in allows 720p / 1080i HD viewing via PC.  Still ordering a BD player / burner via the web to complete the set-up.  ;D

Cheers!
Marl_1


may i know ilan bit ang panel ng hp lcd monitor na yan?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 27, 2008 at 10:12 AM
nice PC specs for an HTPC... upgrade na ng harddisk para sa mga MKV files.. :))
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on May 27, 2008 at 10:24 AM
upgraded to 1TB Samsung SpinPoint HDD with external esata HDD enclosure.
(http://img.kakaku.com/images/productimage/fullscale/05391010747.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Ganda nyang hdd enclosure nyo sir.  How much for both and where did you buy it? Did you buy it separately?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on May 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM
bought it separately here in japan. total cost for the samsung and the case was Php8,500. that external case is for japan local market only.for vista and xp no drivers required. just plug and play. my temps never go above 25C. hassle lang magformat ng 1TB with NTFS file system took me more than 7 hours to format the drive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on May 27, 2008 at 12:41 PM
mura pala ng combo na yan dyan sa japan. magkano lang ang 1TB hdd lang sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on May 27, 2008 at 02:26 PM
HDD cost is roughly Php6,800.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: steelcrazy on May 28, 2008 at 05:48 AM
upgraded to 1TB Samsung SpinPoint HDD with external esata HDD enclosure.
(http://img.kakaku.com/images/productimage/fullscale/05391010747.jpg)
very nice HDD ha with that massive storage, you can store lots of mkv files. talagang prepared kna to enter the HD world.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 28, 2008 at 09:49 AM
HDD cost is roughly Php6,800.

wow mura! pabili na tayo.. group buy.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: amalvar on May 28, 2008 at 04:13 PM
i can regularly get hdd from japan.

anyone interested, just msg me.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on May 28, 2008 at 07:41 PM
i can regularly get hdd from japan.

anyone interested, just msg me.

hi bro, pabili na kami.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on May 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM
i can regularly get hdd from japan.

anyone interested, just msg me.

I am very interested. Do you have any idea on how much and what brand? Brand-new po ba 'to?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on May 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM
consider the warranty pag nag pabili kayo dito sa japan. if the HDD fails, definitely RMA na yan. And as far as i know. seagate lang ang madaling RMA procedure dyan sa Pilipinas. other brands of HDD here in japan like seagate, toshiba, hitachi and western digital have comparative pricing dyan sa Pilipinas. Dyan pa ang warranty mo. Ang mga mura na brand new HDD dito sa Japan 1-3 months lang ang warranty sa retailer. after that RMA to manufacturer na.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM
I agree, how much is a 1tb seagate there in japan?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on May 29, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Warranty coverage costs a lot of money, especially in a country like Japan.   If you want 1-year warranty or 3-year warranty (boxed sets), then you have to pay the price for that.

I don't know, personally I haven't had a single bad experience with any hard drive.   I've got Seagate, WD and Samsung in my rigs.   The last desktop PC I threw away lasted for 9 years with its WD hard drive still in perfect working condition. 

I am not sure if they have any "extra" QA/QC checklist for "bulk" (NOT BOXED) HDDs sold in Japan although that is quite common for other commodities imported to Japan (brand clothes in particular).  In any case, these "bulk HDDs" in Japan are made by the big players such as Seagate, WD, Hitachi, Samsung, Toshiba.   And although they lack the "box", they certainly are brand-new and properly packed.

Momay, I'm not sure if you can even do RMA to manufacturer for brand items "handled as bulk."  AFAIK, for instance in popular DIY store like T-Zone and Clevery in Akihabara, after the store's own limited warranty for a certain bulk item, or a "special store item" expires, that's it.  But then again what are the chances of total failure in 3 months anyway?   Well, for a 17,000 yen 1TB hard disk drive, that may or may not be worth the risk depending on your situation. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on May 29, 2008 at 03:13 PM
I prefer seagate as I had 3 250gb western digital hard drives fail, bad luck I guess.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on May 29, 2008 at 06:57 PM
Warranty coverage costs a lot of money, especially in a country like Japan.   If you want 1-year warranty or 3-year warranty (boxed sets), then you have to pay the price for that.

I don't know, personally I haven't had a single bad experience with any hard drive.   I've got Seagate, WD and Samsung in my rigs.   The last desktop PC I threw away lasted for 9 years with its WD hard drive still in perfect working condition. 

I am not sure if they have any "extra" QA/QC checklist for "bulk" (NOT BOXED) HDDs sold in Japan although that is quite common for other commodities imported to Japan (brand clothes in particular).  In any case, these "bulk HDDs" in Japan are made by the big players such as Seagate, WD, Hitachi, Samsung, Toshiba.   And although they lack the "box", they certainly are brand-new and properly packed.

Momay, I'm not sure if you can even do RMA to manufacturer for brand items "handled as bulk."  AFAIK, for instance in popular DIY store like T-Zone and Clevery in Akihabara, after the store's own limited warranty for a certain bulk item, or a "special store item" expires, that's it.  But then again what are the chances of total failure in 3 months anyway?   Well, for a 17,000 yen 1TB hard disk drive, that may or may not be worth the risk depending on your situation. 


for RMA to manufacturer of bulk items in japan, wala naman problema. may manufacturer warranty card naman ang mga bulk items dito na nabibili.

sa DIY store like dospara 6 months ang warranty but you have to pay an additional 5% to the price of the product you are buying, kaya sa sofmap ako bumibili. mas mababa ng upto 2000yen ang price plus the 3months warranty pa. sa 5 HDDs na nabili ko dito, sa 200gb PATA maxtor lang ako nagka problema. and guess what, na-RMA ko yun sa seagate when i was there sa Pilipinas kasi 5 years naman ang warranty ng seagate. pero kung di na-acquire ng seagate ang maxtor, 3years lang ang warranty. happy parin.after that incident, its either samsung or seagate lang binibili ko. for all the samsung HDDs that we've owned wala pang bumigay. most of them are more than 5 years old. ang seagate naman, 5year manufacturer warranty sulit na sulit sa presyo.ang dali pa ng RMA.

like i've said, seagate HDDs here in japan have comparative pricing dyan sa Pilipinas. price difference will not exceed Php500. maganda pa ang warranty program ng mga retailer natin dyan sa Pilipinas. most of them have 1year store warranty. walang hassle di ba.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 06, 2008 at 06:01 AM
I,m on the stage of planning a HTPC set up. Whats the cheapest videocard w/ hdmi connectivity available in the market?
Title: Re: DVD Playback: HTPC Media Players vs. Upscaling DVD Players
Post by: pchin on Jun 06, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Earlier, I tried to play an original LOTR DVD on my PC, sobrang laki ng difference ng PQ compared sa ripped Bluray ng LOTR (720p). Hindi maganda yung DVD sa PC.

Would you say na pareho or minimal difference lang ang PQ ng ripped HD-DVD/Bluray (720p) at regular DVD played on Upscaling DVD player?

Regardless how you play the SD, the HD ripped source which is 720p will be always better PQ than the SD. But some good SD source if upscalled tru a good upscalled player may give you a "near HD" look. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on Jun 06, 2008 at 08:54 AM
any videocard with dvi-d would do. use can always use a dvi-hdmi adaptor.i think only the nvidia 9800gx2 have an audio through hdmi if integral sound is your concerned, and i think its only stereo. i do not recommend going for the cheapest videocard with hdmi connectivity. i'd recommend amd 3800 series chips or nvidia 8600 series chips with 512mb video ram as minimum. mura na lang naman na mga videocards ngayun.

I,m on the stage of planning a HTPC set up. Whats the cheapest videocard w/ hdmi connectivity available in the market?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: et414 on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:15 AM
if you are starting from scratch, may lumabas na na motherboard with hdmi ah. it can supposedly handle 8channel pcm. nakalimutan ko yung name pero nvidia ata yung chipset. yung mga video card kasi they can only output dolby digital or 2 channel pcm. parang toslink lang ang equivalent nya. if you don't plan on gaming, the motherboard's onboard video can already play 1080p rips.
Title: Re: DVD Playback: HTPC Media Players vs. Upscaling DVD Players
Post by: GioSpike on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Regardless how you play the SD, the HD ripped source which is 720p will be always better PQ than the SD. But some good SD source if upscalled tru a good upscalled player may give you a "near HD" look. :)

Thanks pchin! I was just wondering because a lot of people here at PinoyDVD are getting upscaling dvd players for their HT setup. I guess its for those people who do not have HTPC + ripped HDs, but have huge collection of DVDs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jun 06, 2008 at 11:14 AM
I,m on the stage of planning a HTPC set up. Whats the cheapest videocard w/ hdmi connectivity available in the market?

Check these mobos sir.

Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H - (HDMI and Toslink)
EMAXX - EMX-NF7050HD-PRO - (HDMI and Coax)

They almost have the same features except for 5.1 audio connectivity. Emaxx is also cheaper than Gigabyte.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RU9 on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:55 PM
ASUS Brings Joy to Our Ears

(http://images.anandtech.com/iblog/asushd/XonarHDAV13.jpg)


http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=3324
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: pchin on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:01 PM
Wow...with 7.1 channel, 24-bit/192kHz LPCM output capability & also support bitstreaming DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD during BD playback!! :o :o

Did it mention the price?  :-X
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:23 PM
"Pricing is not set yet, but we expect the Deluxe Version to carry a heft premium over the current Xonar D2X card. However, based on initial experiences I am sure my Visa card is going to get a workout when the card is released in late July. We have provided a few additional screenshots of the new control panel in operation and a look at the demo unit on the main floor. We will be back with an update on the card and other new releases from ASUS shortly."

Wow!  :o Ganda pa ng kulay.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:42 PM
naku baka mas mahal pa yang card na yan sa HTPC ko... ahihi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:14 PM
It should be near the price of an x-fi platinum, any price higher might alienate a lot of its target users.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:22 PM
It should be near the price of an x-fi platinum, any price higher might alienate a lot of its target users.

magkano po ba x-fi platinum sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: squatt3r on Jun 08, 2008 at 06:22 PM
low cost htpc if you only need to play mp3s, divx and 720p files:

D201GLY2: Intel mini-itx mobo with soldered Celeron 220 running @ 1.2Ghz. -> 2.6k
mini itx casing: Zeal Ion mini-itx casing                                                  -> 1.5k

already have these stuff from a previous pc
memory:         1Gb DDR2 533/667
hard drive:      40Gb


                                                       
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Hi sir,
Would it have a difference in performance when playing if I were to put all my movies (720p and 1080p mkv) onto an external hard disk  and connect via usb, than on a hard drive that is connected directly through sata? Since this hobby is a storage hungry, i'm planning on having several external hard disk as storage for
my increasing library of HD mkv's and playing them via usb. Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:28 PM
I suggest getting a larger tower case. (Some are as cheap as P1500 like mine)  My PC for example has 5 drives, with a total 2TB capacity. 
I can probably fit 3 more.

USB is really slow in terms of data transfer.
The external enclosures will cost more in the long term.


Hi sir,
Would it have a difference in performance when playing if I were to put all my movies (720p and 1080p mkv) onto an external hard disk  and connect via usb, than on a hard drive that is connected directly through sata? Since this hobby is a storage hungry, i'm planning on having several external hard disk as storage for
my increasing library of HD mkv's and playing them via usb. Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:38 PM
I suggest getting a larger tower case. (Some are as cheap as P1500 like mine)  My PC for example has 5 drives, with a total 2TB capacity. 
I can probably fit 3 more.

USB is really slow in terms of data transfer.
The external enclosures will cost more in the long term.



thanks sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:40 PM
hi sir,
    I am having stutter problems with my KM player when playing 720p mkv's though not very often. It is not very noticeable on movies but on music videos it is annoying. How can I totally remove this stutter problems. I notice that when using zoom player it does not stutter. I love KM player and would want to know it anyone here experience occasional stuttering on mkv's.  My specs for my HTPC are:
               
                                Core 2 Duo E6420
                                Asus mobo
                                3 gb ddr2 667
                                500 gb hard disk sata
                                Palit 8800gt sonic 512 mb
                                5m hdmi cable
                                Monitor -> set to dual monitor with independent view for each
                                           for pc use 19" samsung lcd
                                           for watching mkv's a plasma 42pv70h connected via hdmi
 
                                built-in 6 ch audio on mobo connected to a 6 ch analog amplifier
           thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Try uninstalling your codecs and reinstall.  I use K-lite (comes with media player classic).
I use this for 720p mkvs

I had a video/audio stutter problem with another player.  All I had to do was uninstall all
previous codecs, then install one to be used by all the other players.

hi sir,
    I am having stutter problems with my KM player when playing 720p mkv's though not very often. It is not very noticeable on movies but on music videos it is annoying. How can I totally remove this stutter problems. I notice that when using zoom player it does not stutter. I love KM player and would want to know it anyone here experience occasional stuttering on mkv's.  My specs for my HTPC are:
               
                                Core 2 Duo E6420
                                Asus mobo
                                3 gb ddr2 667
                                500 gb hard disk sata
                                Palit 8800gt sonic 512 mb
                                5m hdmi cable
                                Monitor -> set to dual monitor with independent view for each
                                           for pc use 19" samsung lcd
                                           for watching mkv's a plasma 42pv70h connected via hdmi
 
                                built-in 6 ch audio on mobo connected to a 6 ch analog amplifier
           thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Try uninstalling your codecs and reinstall.  I use K-lite (comes with media player classic).
I use this for 720p mkvs

I had a video/audio stutter problem with another player.  All I had to do was uninstall all
previous codecs, then install one to be used by all the other players.

hi sir,
    I went through the list on my add/remove programs and have this (im not sure if this are all codecs).
                      DC-bass Source 1.1
                      directvobsub
                      dscaler 5 mpeg decoders
                      ffdshow rev 1685
                      haali media splitter
                      open source flash video splitter
                      shoutcast source
                      dna
 
    Some may not be codecs but I just would want to know do I have to uninstall all of this. the last three I`m not sure it they are codecs.
     Thanks
                     
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Try using uninstall first.  ie. uninstall all the players you have installed.
Then check and see if anything is left in the add/remove programs from your list below.
I can't tell which one is a codec, but one of K-lites pre-requisite is to remove all previous codecs.
When I didn't do that, I had an audio-video stutter problem.

Your hardware is sufficient for sure.  I have an E4400 and an E6300, both capable in playing 720p .mkvs

hi sir,
    I went through the list on my add/remove programs and have this (im not sure if this are all codecs).
                      DC-bass Source 1.1
                      directvobsub
                      dscaler 5 mpeg decoders
                      ffdshow rev 1685
                      haali media splitter
                      open source flash video splitter
                      shoutcast source
                      dna
 
    Some may not be codecs but I just would want to know do I have to uninstall all of this. the last three I`m not sure it they are codecs.
    Thanks.
                     
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Try using uninstall first.  ie. uninstall all the players you have installed.
Then check and see if anything is left in the add/remove programs from your list below.
I can't tell which one is a codec, but one of K-lites pre-requisite is to remove all previous codecs.
When I didn't do that, I had an audio-video stutter problem.

Your hardware is sufficient for sure.  I have an E4400 and an E6300, both capable in playing 720p .mkvs

hi sir, ok will try to do that. thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 24, 2008 at 07:19 AM
hi sir, i have tried uninstalling all codecs present and even my mkv players,then installed K-lite codec full pack but still the ocassional
stutters still there when using KM player and very noticeable when playing musicals. Let me describe in detail what I meant by stutters in KM player. The scene suddenly fastforwards a word or two, but every thing is in sync( audio and video). And this always
happen in split seconds. There is no out of sync problem at all between the audio and video. But when using the Zoom player I don't see any stuttering/skipping at all.

Is this cause by my processor choking? Or is it cause by my built-in audio 6ch? Is KM player a resource hog? I Will try to upgrade all my drivers (audio and video) later today and see if the stutters are gone.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: otepsy on Jun 24, 2008 at 08:18 AM
hi sir, i have tried uninstalling all codecs present and even my mkv players,then installed K-lite codec full pack but still the ocassional
stutters still there when using KM player and very noticeable when playing musicals. Let me describe in detail what I meant by stutters in KM player. The scene suddenly fastforwards a word or two, but every thing is in sync( audio and video). And this always
happen in split seconds. There is no out of sync problem at all between the audio and video. But when using the Zoom player I don't see any stuttering/skipping at all.

Is this cause by my processor choking? Or is it cause by my built-in audio 6ch? Is KM player a resource hog? I Will try to upgrade all my drivers (audio and video) later today and see if the stutters are gone.

Thanks

i'm experiencing that problem too, yung biglang bumibilis parang nadudulas... bakit nga kaya...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: uvax on Jun 24, 2008 at 09:14 AM
I suggest getting a larger tower case. (Some are as cheap as P1500 like mine)  My PC for example has 5 drives, with a total 2TB capacity. 
I can probably fit 3 more.

USB is really slow in terms of data transfer.
The external enclosures will cost more in the long term.



Just wanted to add a comment on this. Blu-ray spec maxes out at 54 mbps while usb 2.0 is rated at 480 mbps so there is more than enough headroom there as far as playback is concerned. It may be slow when transferring compared to an internal drive when transferring files over but it should be no issue with playback as long as you have a fast enough processor.

Cost-wise I think it's relative as you will need to spend the time and effort to move your components to a newer chassis.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 24, 2008 at 12:41 PM
i'm experiencing that problem too, yung biglang bumibilis parang nadudulas... bakit nga kaya...

oo nga sir, ganoon na ganoon nga...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 24, 2008 at 01:48 PM
hmm.. Have you tried using the media player classic as the player?

Try opening the Windows Task Manager...you can check the load KM player contributes.

Also check this forum:
http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7280
http://forums.slizone.com/lofiversion/index.php?t8823.html

Might help.


hi sir, i have tried uninstalling all codecs present and even my mkv players,then installed K-lite codec full pack but still the ocassional
stutters still there when using KM player and very noticeable when playing musicals. Let me describe in detail what I meant by stutters in KM player. The scene suddenly fastforwards a word or two, but every thing is in sync( audio and video). And this always
happen in split seconds. There is no out of sync problem at all between the audio and video. But when using the Zoom player I don't see any stuttering/skipping at all.

Is this cause by my processor choking? Or is it cause by my built-in audio 6ch? Is KM player a resource hog? I Will try to upgrade all my drivers (audio and video) later today and see if the stutters are gone.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 24, 2008 at 03:02 PM
Hi sir,
Would it have a difference in performance when playing if I were to put all my movies (720p and 1080p mkv) onto an external hard disk  and connect via usb, than on a hard drive that is connected directly through sata? Since this hobby is a storage hungry, i'm planning on having several external hard disk as storage for
my increasing library of HD mkv's and playing them via usb. Thanks.

There should be but whether the difference "makes so much difference" depends on the raw power of your CPU.  In my main rig for instance, I don't notice any difference in quality whether I play from an external drive or from the internal drive.  My daughter's laptop on the other hand is able to eliminate synch problems of 1080p contents by playing from the internal drive.

What is your usual viewing habit and situation at home?  If you are like my family who all have personal preferences of high def contents, it is very convenient to use many external drive para di agaw-agawan.  So while the daughter is watching teenage movies, wife a love story and TV series, I can watch mix martial arts, documentaries and most importantly, sleazy stuff.   ;D   ;D

And if you stick to brand external drives, makers have proprietary drivers to overdrive the USB read/write speeds.  External hard drives are also self-powered, so PSU won't be an issue especially if your rig contains power hungry components such as modern high end graphics cards.  Tapos, you only need to power the one external drive that contains the movie you're watching.

On the other hand, using internal drives would save you some money on the component cost per se.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 24, 2008 at 03:26 PM
hi sir,
    I am having stutter problems with my KM player when playing 720p mkv's though not very often. It is not very noticeable on movies but on music videos it is annoying. How can I totally remove this stutter problems. I notice that when using zoom player it does not stutter. I love KM player and would want to know it anyone here experience occasional stuttering on mkv's.  My specs for my HTPC are:
               
                                Core 2 Duo E6420
                                Asus mobo
                                3 gb ddr2 667
                                500 gb hard disk sata
                                Palit 8800gt sonic 512 mb
                                5m hdmi cable
                                Monitor -> set to dual monitor with independent view for each
                                           for pc use 19" samsung lcd
                                           for watching mkv's a plasma 42pv70h connected via hdmi
 
                                built-in 6 ch audio on mobo connected to a 6 ch analog amplifier
       

No problem at all with your system.

What you're experiencing with 720p and 1080p is what I consider GROWING PAINS of a format that is not yet legally accepted and still a challenge to encoders and decoders.

There are quite a number of media players but there is always a trade-off.  KM Player is awesome but it's still buggy.  I'm not sure if the latest beta (1431) would perform better, but it's stable so perhaps you should give it a try.  The KM Player still has some kinks to be fixed but I like it the best nevertheless. 

In any case, if you feel like Zoom Player performs best, or any other media player for that mattter, then you should stick with it.

Some contents are simply NOT PROPERLY encoded, or perhaps better optimized for certain players,  but I'm thankful for their availability and playability (though sometimes imperfect) just the same.

1080p contents will push any system to its limits with the current generation of media players, and lack of hardware decoding.  If a 1080p content plays perfectly, then that is indicative of the adeptness of the person who ripped it.   I have not seen how those standalone players would perform on a 14GB-30GB 1080p 12Mbps and higher 1080p mkv.

Tanong, is it still true that the HD PureVideo Engine (not the 3d engine) of the 8800GT is inferior/older to that of 8600 and 9600/9800 series??? - Nvidia's assumption was that the 8800GT would have be installed with a very powerful CPU in the first place, thus no need to power up the HD video engine.   Or has the new drivers rectified that?




Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 24, 2008 at 04:25 PM
No problem at all with your system.

What you're experiencing with 720p and 1080p is what I consider GROWING PAINS of a format that is not yet legally accepted and still a challenge to encoders and decoders.

There are quite a number of media players but there is always a trade-off.  KM Player is awesome but it's still buggy.  I'm not sure if the latest beta (1431) would perform better, but it's stable so perhaps you should give it a try.  The KM Player still has some kinks to be fixed but I like it the best nevertheless. 

In any case, if you feel like Zoom Player performs best, or any other media player for that mattter, then you should stick with it.

Some contents are simply NOT PROPERLY encoded, or perhaps better optimized for certain players,  but I'm thankful for their availability and playability (though sometimes imperfect) just the same.

1080p contents will push any system to its limits with the current generation of media players, and lack of hardware decoding.  If a 1080p content plays perfectly, then that is indicative of the adeptness of the person who ripped it.   I have not seen how those standalone players would perform on a 14GB-30GB 1080p 12Mbps and higher 1080p mkv.

Tanong, is it still true that the HD PureVideo Engine (not the 3d engine) of the 8800GT is inferior/older to that of 8600 and 9600/9800 series??? - Nvidia's assumption was that the 8800GT would have be installed with a very powerful CPU in the first place, thus no need to power up the HD video engine.   Or has the new drivers rectified that?



hi sir, thanks for the info. more power to you sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ert on Jun 24, 2008 at 05:45 PM


@mrm buy ka na lang popcorn hour no stuttering problems at all even at 1080p  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: uvax on Jun 24, 2008 at 07:32 PM

1080p contents will push any system to its limits with the current generation of media players, and lack of hardware decoding.  If a 1080p content plays perfectly, then that is indicative of the adeptness of the person who ripped it.   I have not seen how those standalone players would perform on a 14GB-30GB 1080p 12Mbps and higher 1080p mkv.


Although I'm using a different brand of media player than ert I can say from my personal experience that my player has played a 1080p 23.98fps 6ch AC3 mkv file (Earth) flawlessly.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 24, 2008 at 08:59 PM
Although I'm using a different brand of media player than ert I can say from my personal experience that my player has played a 1080p 23.98fps 6ch AC3 mkv file (Earth) flawlessly.

Can you possibly test any of these 1080p titles on your standalone player and give us some feedback.  Not just browsing through scenes but full-length viewing.  Medyo mahaba ang more than 10 hours of viewing but thanks kung sakaling puede.

3:10 Yuma (10.7GB)
The Other Boleyn Girl (8.4GB)
Elizabeth The Golden Age (8.4GB)
Total Recall (10.4GB)
LOTR Return Of The King (12.5GB)

By the way, the same request goes for those using media players other than KMP.  If your player can play the above 5 absolutely flawlessly, then your player is arguably the best right now.   For those who want to try but would rather not download, I'm vacationing in Manila  sa last week of July.  I'll give anybody these test 1080ps for the sake of science, in our common quest to determine the best media player  ;D ;D ;D

FYI, KMP exhibits some synch problems at certain scenes of the above titles, but automatically resynchs somehow (humahabol).  VLC is totally hopeless.  GOM has worse synching issue.  As for the rest of 1080ps I've watched so far (about 40 other titles), they're OK with KMP - thanks to the geniuses who "repackaged" them brilliantly.

As for 720ps, you can watch them with anything available out there.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jun 24, 2008 at 09:48 PM
Can you possibly test any of these 1080p titles on your standalone player and give us some feedback.  Not just browsing through scenes but full-length viewing.  Medyo mahaba ang more than 10 hours of viewing but thanks kung sakaling puede.

3:10 Yuma (10.7GB)
The Other Boleyn Girl (8.4GB)
Elizabeth The Golden Age (8.4GB)
Total Recall (10.4GB)
LOTR Return Of The King (12.5GB)

By the way, the same request goes for those using media players other than KMP.  If your player can play the above 5 absolutely flawlessly, then your player is arguably the best right now.   For those who want to try but would rather not download, I'm vacationing in Manila  sa last week of July.  I'll give anybody these test 1080ps for the sake of science, in our common quest to determine the best media player  ;D ;D ;D

FYI, KMP exhibits some synch problems at certain scenes of the above titles, but automatically resynchs somehow (humahabol).  VLC is totally hopeless.  GOM has worse synching issue.  As for the rest of 1080ps I've watched so far (about 40 other titles), they're OK with KMP - thanks to the geniuses who "repackaged" them brilliantly.

As for 720ps, you can watch them with anything available out there.

Uso namang ang shoot-out ngayon. Why don't we have a shoot-out between a MKV player and a HTPC?  :D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jun 24, 2008 at 10:09 PM
baka me kinalaman din ang os.. tried playing 1080p planet earth sa vista ultimate pero merong stutter.. pero pag sa windows xp, wala naman at smooth.. :)

although di ko pa na-try iplay sa pch a100..

maganda sana kung makuha ko yung mga test movies ni Clondalkin para matry ko sa PCH ko at sa HTPC ko.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on Jun 25, 2008 at 06:56 AM
sa laptop k0 na vista basic walang stutter pero sa vista ultimate at home premium meron.siguro less resource hog ang basic kaya walang stutter.when playing HD movies dapat walang ibang application na nagrurun sa background.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: uvax on Jun 25, 2008 at 07:58 AM
@Clondalkin

The only one among your list that I have is Total Recall. I've only gone through about 30 minutes of it and have had no problems. Since it was shot natively on film and then transferred to HD it is not as good visually as Planet Earth which was shot in HD natively. By the way, Total Recall movie file is at 1920x1040 so it's not 1080p strictly speaking ;).

I'm not espousing media players over HTPC. I would not want to get into a debate on pros and cons as it is a matter of personal preference. As long as the hardware has the grunt it's now down to firmware/software. In my case, the manufacturer made several firmware iterations to get the media player to where it is now. I'm hoping that they put in TrueHD and DTS Master Audio support in their next firmware iteration whenever that may be.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 25, 2008 at 08:44 AM
@Clondalkin

The only one among your list that I have is Total Recall. I've only gone through about 30 minutes of it and have had no problems. Since it was shot natively on film and then transferred to HD it is not as good visually as Planet Earth which was shot in HD natively. By the way, Total Recall movie file is at 1920x1040 so it's not 1080p strictly speaking ;).


It's a nice player you have then.  Is it the Korean-made one?  Yeah, PQ of that particular transfer is below average.  And strictly speaking, there are only soooooo few r*ps out there that meet 720p and 1080p standard resolutions respectively.   Try to run mediainfo on all your downloaded files and you'd see that resolutions are practically halo-halo.  No standardization.   It appears to me that encoders played around with the resolution to their indulgence, or perhaps in trying to optimize the encode, or probably to control the final size of the compressed file.  I don't know.  Not much of a bother though as long as the resulting file plays well.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 25, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Interesting observations regarding the comparative performances using different OS on HTPC set-ups.   This could be the key to excellent performance of standalones;  although standalones may appear to have inferior hardware on paper relative to that of high-end PCs, their firmware/software/driver/system are comparatively simplified.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jun 25, 2008 at 09:39 AM
sa laptop k0 na vista basic walang stutter pero sa vista ultimate at home premium meron.siguro less resource hog ang basic kaya walang stutter.when playing HD movies dapat walang ibang application na nagrurun sa background.

baka dahil sa driver/player sa x64 ng vista? i dont think na hardware ang problem.. tried playing it sa q6600 oc'ed to 3.4ghz at 8800gt na video card with 2gb ddr2 1200mhz ram pero stutter parin.. same result sa be2350, onboard video ng gigabyte 780g and 2gb ram..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on Jun 25, 2008 at 12:16 PM
well those OS are 32bit version.theres no need for 64bit version unless you want your 4gb ram to be fully utilized.

eto spec ng laptop ko. its a dell inspiron 1720.
T7250 Core2Duo
Nvidia 8600M GT 256mb DDR2
2GB ram DDR2
Fujitsu SATA HDD

i am using the latest drivers from dell and the latest k-lite codec pack. no stutter or what so ever.the mkv rips are 720p and 1080p even if the native resolution is lower than those because its anamorphic.

one thing i noticed with similar laptop is the antivirus installed. with similar setup using norton/mcafee anti virus (known to be resource hogs, then coupled with vista home premium/ultimate OS) mkv rips has some stutter. i only use the avg free edition and vista basic as my OS and I have not seen any stutter.

good mkv's to test if your system stutters is the 1080p version of Ice Age 2 (water slide scene). on my desktop pc it stutter at that scene badly. also the planet earth scene with the flock of birds dancing in the sky is a good test also. even at only 720p my desktop pc also stutters at that scene. heres my desktop pc setup

DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D
AMD Opteron 146 1mb cache memory and oc to 3ghz
1gb (512x2) DDR400 dual channel setup
Nvidia 7800gtx 256mb ddr3
320gb SATA2 seagate HDD
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 25, 2008 at 04:52 PM
@momay

sir, may I know what mkv player you use on your laptop? thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on Jun 25, 2008 at 05:50 PM
media player classic. the version bundled with the latest k-lite codec pack full version.

@momay

sir, may I know what mkv player you use on your laptop? thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jun 25, 2008 at 05:54 PM
hi,
    I notice there are so many codec packs available for download and installation. I just want to know
which among the following codecs below or others not mention here, would be best suited for playing mkv
movies.

                XP codec pack
                K-lite codec pack
                codec pack all in 1
                matroska pack
                lazy man's codec pack
                satsuki decoder pack...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on Jun 25, 2008 at 06:18 PM
from your list, i vote for the klite as the most suitable for hd playing
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jun 25, 2008 at 06:38 PM
I use kmplayer and k-lite. For me kmplayer is better.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Is there anybody who uses this hdd cradle?  Could you please share your feedback.  Thank you.

When the designer of this dock envisioned "external hard drive", he took it too literally.   ;D ;D ;D

Brilliant or risky?

http://www.century.co.jp/products/s-razoku/croseu2.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: uvax on Jun 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM
I've been trying to look for one locally. I've seen variants of it under Vantec and Thermaltake brand names. It's a good "pan-tapat" for our hobby that eats gigabytes like breakfast cereals. I have this feeling that it will come out with a CDRKing brand name as it is manufactured by oem chinese companies.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: momay on Jun 27, 2008 at 01:02 PM
nakikita ko sa sofmap yan.di ko pinapansin kasi mukhang di maganda yung build quality. exposed pa yung pcb ng hdd pag yan gamit mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 27, 2008 at 04:01 PM
It's heavier than it's physical impression kaya stable yung docking, but yeah, it screaming "STATIC ELECTRICITY EXPOSURE ALERT."   ;D

Reminder naman ng Century (maker) that hdds are delicate devices and should be handled with extra care in this particular case, and should be kept inside an anti-static bag if not in use and stored at proper conditions.  This cradle looks very convenient though especially if you have lots of hdds to swap.  Hot-swapping is not possible though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: docelmo on Jun 28, 2008 at 10:52 PM

My htpc: amd4600/2gig/512mb vc
 -watched some mkv files using benq pj! Very Nice!!! ;D
(http://h1.ripway.com/docelmo/htpc.JPG)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jun 28, 2008 at 11:07 PM
congrats bro, sa wakas nabuo na rin.. Next pag-ipunan hdd bro para sa storage ng maraming mkvs. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: docelmo on Jun 30, 2008 at 10:14 AM
My htpc: amd4600/2gig/512mb vc
 -watched some mkv files using benq pj! Very Nice!!! ;D
(http://h1.ripway.com/docelmo/htpc.JPG)

 Guys!
 How do i configure my pc to output DTS?
 My mobo is gigabyte(GA-MA78GM-S2H), w/ optical cable connected to onkyo amp.
 i can only can only output neo6/prologic settings, but there is not audio when i play dts format...
 hope u guys can help...
 TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jun 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM
enable digital passthrough dun sa control panel ng sounds.. then sa ac3filter, as-is lang ang output..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jun 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM
enable digital passthrough dun sa control panel ng sounds.. then sa ac3filter, as-is lang ang output..

Can you walk us through on this sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: squatt3r on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:11 PM
depende din yan kung ano naka encode sa audio nung mkv file
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: regulus on Jul 01, 2008 at 04:13 PM
has anybody tried using mac mini as HTPC...

medyo newbie on htpc wanna get one kasi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jul 01, 2008 at 04:56 PM
has anybody tried using mac mini as HTPC...

medyo newbie on htpc wanna get one kasi

Hi sir,  I don't know if this will be the same but I have tried it on a macbook (core 2 duo). My connections were from the mac , a mini-dvi to hdmi converter
was use, then connected it to an onkyo receiver via hdmi. Plasma connected to receiver also.Have set the macbook to dual screen settings for independent
viewing. The audio output I tried for now is just connected via coax. I am using VLC player for  viewing mkv movies. Everything works fine.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: raptor on Jul 01, 2008 at 08:52 PM
has anybody tried using mac mini as HTPC...

medyo newbie on htpc wanna get one kasi

You may check out the Power Mac outlet in Greenbelt 3 ... they have a Mac connected to a large flat panel (not sure if plasma or lcd) ... the display is quite impressive
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: docelmo on Jul 01, 2008 at 09:45 PM
enable digital passthrough dun sa control panel ng sounds.. then sa ac3filter, as-is lang ang output..

Bro! i was able to output DTS thru Optical Cable playing mkv files!
 -Realtek HD Audio Manager: Output source:"Output digital audio source"
                                        Channel Config: DTS Interactive
Thanks!
 ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 01, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Bro! i was able to output DTS thru Optical Cable playing mkv files!
 -Realtek HD Audio Manager: Output source:"Output digital audio source"
                                        Channel Config: DTS Interactive
Thanks!
 ;D



That is what I 'm using before kaso parang sa lahat ng speakers, kasama yung surrounds,  lumalabas yung dialogue kaya I preferred using my receiver and set it to DTS Neo. Mas okay sa'kin yung ganung setup. Just IMO.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: docelmo on Jul 02, 2008 at 07:51 AM
That is what I 'm using before kaso parang sa lahat ng speakers, kasama yung surrounds,  lumalabas yung dialogue kaya I preferred using my receiver and set it to DTS Neo. Mas okay sa'kin yung ganung setup. Just IMO.  ;)

In my case, sa DTS neo muddled ang sound and yung dialogue sa L/R channel lumalabas, but w/ DTS interactive mas defined and yung dialogue sa centre channel na...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deeboy on Jul 02, 2008 at 08:00 PM
mga sir, ngayon lang ako napadaan sa forum na ito at naengganyo naman ako na magbuo din ng htpc, pede ba ko makahingi ng tulong dahil sayang, halos kakabili ko lang ng pc ko. anu ba maipapayo nyo sakin? magbuo ako ng bagong HTPC setup, iupgrade ko ung PC ko? or pede na tong pc ko for HTPC.. panu kaya gagawin ko mga sir..

eto po ang specs ng pc ko

ASUS P5S-MX SE
C2D E4500 2.2ghz
2gb RAM Kingston
Nvidia Geforce 8500GT
160gb hdd

ok n kaya to mga sir.. TIA:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 03, 2008 at 09:12 AM
mga sir, ngayon lang ako napadaan sa forum na ito at naengganyo naman ako na magbuo din ng htpc, pede ba ko makahingi ng tulong dahil sayang, halos kakabili ko lang ng pc ko. anu ba maipapayo nyo sakin? magbuo ako ng bagong HTPC setup, iupgrade ko ung PC ko? or pede na tong pc ko for HTPC.. panu kaya gagawin ko mga sir..

eto po ang specs ng pc ko

ASUS P5S-MX SE
C2D E4500 2.2ghz
2gb RAM Kingston
Nvidia Geforce 8500GT
160gb hdd

ok n kaya to mga sir.. TIA:)

Define mo yung "vision and understanding" mo ng HTPC.  What do you plan to do with your system?  As is, your current equipment should be able to play all popular formats of audio and video.

One thing I notice, maraming matipid sa internal hard drive space ne.  Hindi nyo kelangan?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deeboy on Jul 03, 2008 at 09:39 AM
^^more on videos sir, and konting autocad.. d ko naman gagamitin for gaming.. tnx sa reply sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: otepsy on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:03 AM
^^more on videos sir, and konting autocad.. d ko naman gagamitin for gaming.. tnx sa reply sir.

you need to add extra hdd at least 500gb for the HD movies..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Define mo yung "vision and understanding" mo ng HTPC.  What do you plan to do with your system?  As is, your current equipment should be able to play all popular formats of audio and video.

One thing I notice, maraming matipid sa internal hard drive space ne.  Hindi nyo kelangan?

ako, aside from the video card, second priority ko is yung harddisk.. i have 160gb as OS; 1000gb and 640gb and external 500gb for the mkv's..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deeboy on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:24 AM
^^ malamang un na din gawin ko magdagdag n lang ako ng hd. may idea ba kayo kung magkanu mag assemble ng bagong HTPC setup?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GioSpike on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:51 AM
^^ malamang un na din gawin ko magdagdag n lang ako ng hd. may idea ba kayo kung magkanu mag assemble ng bagong HTPC setup?
Item   Model   Link   Price
Motherboard   EMAXX AMD780G-PRO SB700 + 64mb Sideport Mem   http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1720361   3440
Processor   A64 X2 4600+ 2.3ghz 2x1024kb box (AM2)   http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=984627   2950
Memory   2gb (1gb*2) Team Elite DDR2 800 Dual Channel   http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2031371   2100
HDD   WDC Caviar® SE 160gb 8mb cache sata   http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1673484   2000
Case, mouse, k/b, power supply   Orient 604 Case w/ 500W Power Supply, Keyboard, Optical Mouse   http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1461495   1740
Optical Disk Drive   LG 16x DVD Rom drive black (oem)   http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1594351   695
Total: 12925

Optional Upgrade         
DVD drive to DVD burner   LG (GSA-H20LS10) 20x DVD burner (lightscribe) (SATA) OEM     http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1791043   1300
DVD drive to Blu-Ray Player   Liteon Blu-Ray Internal Playback Drive 4X BD-ROM    http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1593818   7000

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:55 AM
^^more on videos sir, and konting autocad.. d ko naman gagamitin for gaming.. tnx sa reply sir.

Avi:  350MB-1.4GB
Mkv: 1.1GB - 25GB
TV shows:  size of an episode x number of episodes x number of season
Hentai Collection:  ??? - bazillions or gazillions or googlean   ;D ;D ;D
Digital Photos:  a few KB to 10MB per picture depending on your resolution setting and preferences
Compressed Audio (Mp3):  average file size of your ripped song multiplied by the number of songs
Autocad:  work files will range from KB to MB only

Do your math and decide on the size of hard drive space that you need.  You'll never have enough of hard drive space once you start doing serious downloads and high resolution back-ups of your DVD/HD DVD/BD collection.

Kung maselan ka sa sound, you should buy a good soundcard (Onkyo, Azuntech etc.) and connect your PC to an amplifier through SPDIF.  Otherwise, try the output quality of your on-board audio first.  Passable na yung quality ng mga bagong on-board sound (compared to previous gens).

Personally, I'd give more priority on the quality of video by buying the best video card and monitor combination I can afford.  I think ATI is more appropriate for HTPC applications, nonetheless your Nvidia card should suffice.

You might want to consider combination HD-DVD/BD drives.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deeboy on Jul 03, 2008 at 11:29 AM
@giospike
sir thanks sa mga prices.. nainspire naman ako kung mga ganun lang mgagastos ko..hehehe

@Clondalkin
sir ung onboard video ng mobo EMAXX AMD780G-PRO SB700 + 64mb Sideport Mem, is this enough na or still mas maganda pa din kung may separate video card?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:04 PM
if movie watching lang the IGP of 780g mobo is enough.. am using gigabyte 780g.. kaya rin nya ibang games at low settings..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deeboy on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:21 PM
^^ sa procie? anu gamit nyo po? gusto ko mga assemble magisa.. project ko n to.. heheh :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:25 PM
am using the 45W of amd BE-2350.. less noise at less power/heat..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:36 PM
@Clondalkin
sir ung onboard video ng mobo EMAXX AMD780G-PRO SB700 + 64mb Sideport Mem, is this enough na or still mas maganda pa din kung may separate video card?

Havent tried AMD780G.   Anong maximum resolution neto?

Teka muna, why do you have to build another PC if your current rig can be easily upgraded?  Di ba sabi mo bago pa sya?   As I previously indicated, ang biggest weakness ng system mo right now is the size of your hard drive.    BTW, do you have a good quality and high capacity PSU?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deeboy on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:45 PM
d ko alam kung anu ung psu ko e, kasama sya sa casing.. d ko pa nachcheck  ??? plano ko ibigay n lang sa pamangkin ko ung pc ko den ung pc nila (used to be my pc) isell ko n lang.. hehehe.. p4 kasi un e compared sa pc ko ngaun..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: cnn on Jul 04, 2008 at 02:58 AM
 :D

Upgraded my rig to become a HTPC.  Sold my old shuttle XPC and got the following setup.

All from PCX Greenhills

GIGABYTE GA-MA780GM-S2H   
AMD x2 5200
Transcend 2.0gig DDR2 PC800 memory
Astone Enforcer Casing + 500watt PSU

Then used my old Samsung 18x DVD Writer / Logiteck KB + Mouse

Ganda ng performance if connected to LG Plasma.

HDMI CONNECTION.   
 
Ok na sa akin ito... I just connect to my wireless LAN for surfing... :)

MAX resolution 1280X768.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: coolkiks on Jul 04, 2008 at 10:19 AM
am using the 45W of amd BE-2350.. less noise at less power/heat..

sir where did you get your BE-2350?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jul 04, 2008 at 11:32 AM
sir where did you get your BE-2350?

ke sir dex of T.I.E. Online Sales
Tel. (02) 494-4640

dunno if me stock pa sila.. last May ko pa nabili.. hirap maghanap ng mga 45W (BE2350, 4850e, etc)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: coolkiks on Jul 04, 2008 at 01:17 PM
ke sir dex of T.I.E. Online Sales
Tel. (02) 494-4640

dunno if me stock pa sila.. last May ko pa nabili.. hirap maghanap ng mga 45W (BE2350, 4850e, etc)

Thanks. I'll give him a call.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: deeboy on Jul 04, 2008 at 01:38 PM
mr hd_movies, nagbebenta ka hrd disk dba? how much ba ung 500 tb sayo n may hd movies na? :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kapau on Jul 04, 2008 at 02:01 PM
share ko lang project ko  :)

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=81604.0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: localhost on Jul 04, 2008 at 07:34 PM
:D

Upgraded my rig to become a HTPC.  Sold my old shuttle XPC and got the following setup.

All from PCX Greenhills

GIGABYTE GA-MA780GM-S2H   
AMD x2 5200
Transcend 2.0gig DDR2 PC800 memory
Astone Enforcer Casing + 500watt PSU

Then used my old Samsung 18x DVD Writer / Logiteck KB + Mouse

Ganda ng performance if connected to LG Plasma.

HDMI CONNECTION.   
 
Ok na sa akin ito... I just connect to my wireless LAN for surfing... :)

MAX resolution 1280X768.  :)


Hello everyone... my first post here.

Sir, Pareho tayo ng mobo na gamit and I have no plan to put a dedicated GPU for now... are you sure max resolution ng HTPC mo eh 1280x786 lang?... afaik, it can handle 1080p very well...

I'm planning to put my HTPC on a Sony Bravia 40" @1080p as its native resolution. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: cnn on Jul 05, 2008 at 03:10 AM
Hello everyone... my first post here.

Sir, Pareho tayo ng mobo na gamit and I have no plan to put a dedicated GPU for now... are you sure max resolution ng HTPC mo eh 1280x786 lang?... afaik, it can handle 1080p very well...

I'm planning to put my HTPC on a Sony Bravia 40" @1080p as its native resolution. 

yup... 1280x786 max resolution sa LG Plasma 32 inch.

When I run 1080p/i no signals sa plasma monitor ko.

I'm very please with my HTPC setup speciall that I just connect with the HDMI cable direct to the monitor.

Less cable clutter + may audio pa coming from the monitor :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jul 05, 2008 at 02:44 PM
i'm experiencing that problem too, yung biglang bumibilis parang nadudulas... bakit nga kaya...

hi sir, just last night I was able to solve the problem. All I did was install an external audio card which I had lying around in my cabinet and disabling
my onboard audio. My stuttering problem was completely removed. I guess this was cause by my built-in audio choking. By the way the sound card
I used is an old Sound Blaster live 5.1 Digital. Hope this will also solve your problem.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 05, 2008 at 06:35 PM
Bro! i was able to output DTS thru Optical Cable playing mkv files!
 -Realtek HD Audio Manager: Output source:"Output digital audio source"
                                        Channel Config: DTS Interactive
Thanks!
 ;D



I agree now sir. I tried again using Realtek HD Audio Manager when playing mkv file and compared the SQ when  setting my receiver to DTS Neo. I noticed that Using Realtek HD Audio Manager produced better SQ than just setting my receiver to DTS Neo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kapau on Jul 06, 2008 at 12:03 AM
san nakakabili ng 4850e? ang difference lang ba nya sa 4800+ e tipid sa kuryente thats it? or meron pa?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STI Edge on Jul 06, 2008 at 12:09 PM
built one the other day  ;D

AMD x2 4600
Emaxx 780g
2gb mem
320gb hd
micro atx case
vista ultimate 32bit

Problem:connected to th42pv using hdmi and can handle video without any issues, thing is no audio using hdmi. Anyone using emaxx 780g or had the same issue and was resolved? Mukang medyo luma na itong issue na ito or late lang po talaga ko sa technology Patulong naman po. TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: smoothtalker on Jul 06, 2008 at 02:45 PM
my htpc rig: :)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/engr_matt/htpc.jpg)



amd x2 4600+
emaxx 780g pro
1gb ddr2
500gb hd
frontier rondo matx case w/ 206w psu

i can watch two hd movies simultaneously with no lag/stutter whatsoever :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STI Edge on Jul 06, 2008 at 03:50 PM
built one the other day  ;D

AMD x2 4600
Emaxx 780g
2gb mem
320gb hd
micro atx case
vista ultimate 32bit

Problem:connected to th42pv using hdmi and can handle video without any issues, thing is no audio using hdmi. Anyone using emaxx 780g or had the same issue and was resolved? Mukang medyo luma na itong issue na ito or late lang po talaga ko sa technology Patulong naman po. TIA

Up ko lang po baka may makatulong diyan, sobrang newbie lang. Tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 06, 2008 at 04:49 PM
I think yung hdmi nung mobo para lang talaga sa video not sure about it though.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: uvax on Jul 06, 2008 at 07:11 PM
I think yung hdmi nung mobo para lang talaga sa video not sure about it though.  ;)

In the case of a 780G mobo the hdmi will also carry digital audio. 2 channel nga lang based on my experience.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GioSpike on Jul 06, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Up ko lang po baka may makatulong diyan, sobrang newbie lang. Tnx

Someone in TPC had a similar problem and  was able to resolve it. Check mo post ni ninjababez at page 136.
Quote
ninjababez  Send Message  View User Items  on July 05, 2008 09:10 PM
mga bro .. sinong may htpc setup dito using HDMI? wala kasing sound sakin eh ..
gusto ko sana yung speakers lang din ng plasma yun gamitin as speakers ... thanks in advance .. btw my motherboard is emaxx 780g pro .. (builtin audio and video*hdmi*dvi*vga*)

Resolution:
Quote
yuff i was able to use the hdmi audio driver from ati .. successful naman .. hay salamat at di ako pinahirapan .. mga 5 or 6 drivers and applications yata ang dinownload ko .. tapos random ako nagdouble-click ng file .. hehehe
pagka-install na pagka-install nagkaroon kagad ng sound .. kewl!! :)

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=88421&page=136 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=88421&page=136)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 07, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Someone in TPC had a similar problem and  was able to resolve it. Check mo post ni ninjababez at page 136.
Resolution:
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=88421&page=136 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=88421&page=136)

@Giospike
wahh .. binuking mo naman pagiging noob ko .. hahaha  ;D
medyo pinahirapan ako nyan .. almost 24 hours bago ko naayos .. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: otepsy on Jul 07, 2008 at 10:46 AM
my htpc rig: :)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/engr_matt/htpc.jpg)



amd x2 4600+
emaxx 780g pro
1gb ddr2
500gb hd
frontier rondo matx case w/ 206w psu

i can watch two hd movies simultaneously with no lag/stutter whatsoever :)

wow sir how much po inabot? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 07, 2008 at 11:03 AM
@Giospike
wahh .. binuking mo naman pagiging noob ko .. hahaha  ;D
medyo pinahirapan ako nyan .. almost 24 hours bago ko naayos .. ;D

+1
For the patience.  :) It's very helpful.  :)

Ganda din po ba tunog kahit sa tv lang?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mrm on Jul 07, 2008 at 12:49 PM
hi mga sirs,
 
     I have notice that mkv players like KM, Zoom, MPC etc... have option in their AC3 filter for selecting how many channels
your speaker setup would be.  I just wanted to ask which one is better, the 3/2 5.1 setting or the Dolby Pro Logic II if I have
a 6 channel speaker setup on my HTPC? I have notice that Dolby Pro Logic II is the last choice among the setting. Does this
mean that Dolby Pro Logic II is better than the 3/2 5.1 option in the AC3 filter?

     Hope someone can shed some light on this. Thanks.
     
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: localhost on Jul 07, 2008 at 01:02 PM
my htpc rig: :)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/engr_matt/htpc.jpg)



amd x2 4600+
emaxx 780g pro
1gb ddr2
500gb hd
frontier rondo matx case w/ 206w psu

i can watch two hd movies simultaneously with no lag/stutter whatsoever :)

Uy! Nice... sana may mabili din akong ganyang case dito.

Acutally may napili na ako yung Antec NS4280B ba yun?... pero sobrang laki at hindi kakasya sa Home Theater cabinet ko.

Do you mind telling me the OS you are using for that and what HTPC software are you using? codecs?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kapau on Jul 07, 2008 at 01:09 PM
my htpc rig: :)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/engr_matt/htpc.jpg)


i saw this casing too ok sana kaya lang parang di ka na pwede mag add ng cards parang half lang nung size nung standard also the powersupply mababa. limited un upgrades for me. pero nice casing sir :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: STI Edge on Jul 07, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Thanks mga Bros. I was able to resolve the no audio issue using hdmi last night. I installed ATI HDMI driver and catalyst 8.6 downloaded from amd/ati website. Ganda rin tumunog kahit sa tv lang. Many tnx po Sir Gio and Ninja ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 07, 2008 at 08:10 PM
Thanks mga Bros. I was able to resolve the no audio issue using hdmi last night. I installed ATI HDMI driver and catalyst 8.6 downloaded from amd/ati website. Ganda rin tumunog kahit sa tv lang. Many tnx po Sir Gio and Ninja ;D

anytime bro ..
si giospike sa tpc palang matulungin na yan  ;D

by the way .. the sound for .mkv files are good on this tv .. im just wondering why an ordinary dvd (bluray DBD*) doesnt have enough volume ..
anyone who can answer this?   ::) ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 07, 2008 at 08:12 PM
+1
For the patience.  :) It's very helpful.  :)

Ganda din po ba tunog kahit sa tv lang?

yuff ok ang tunog sa tv bro .. disappointed lang ako sa dvd playback (audio not loud enough) .. ill try and tweak windows media player later .. baka sakaling magawan ng paraan thru tweaking ..  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 08, 2008 at 09:55 AM
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/DSC00883.jpg)

Just got this new remote ,

Normally I use a wireless keyboard w/ built in trackball to control the PC , and the AVR remote 99% for volume control.

Hopefully this is sufficient for me to control the PC and reciever volume..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: localhost on Jul 08, 2008 at 11:17 AM
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/DSC00883.jpg)

Just got this new remote ,

Normally I use a wireless keyboard w/ built in trackball to control the PC , and the AVR remote 99% for volume control.

Hopefully this is sufficient for me to control the PC and reciever volume..

OT: Jambam... pwede din kaya yan sa ibang HTPC software such as Cyberlink PowerCinema? eto kasi gamit ko software eh... and like you I'm using wireless keyboard to control my HTPC
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 08, 2008 at 02:26 PM
yun mouse function niya is universal , so screen navigation is possible , but not sure on the controls , kung compatible ang power director codes w/ Media center puwede , but I don't really know.... :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 08, 2008 at 04:45 PM
Sir Jambam how are you doing? Where did you buy it and for how much?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: cnn on Jul 09, 2008 at 10:36 AM
yup... me too,JAMBAM... san nabili yan at how much... TY
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 09, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Sir Jambam how are you doing? Where did you buy it and for how much?

Pabili lang from US ... $30 from the link below . Normally $99


http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Gyration-Universal-Remote-Control-for-PC-GYR3101US/sem/rpsm/oid/178884/catOid/-13017/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kapau on Jul 09, 2008 at 05:08 PM
my htpc project is now working  :)

here's my current setup:
Gigabyte S2H rev1.1
X2 4800+ w/stock hsf
2GB DDR2 PC800
iMON Ultra Bay HD/iMEDIAN HD
500GB SATA
winXP SP2
Catalyst 8.4
Bluray Dibidi - (soon hanap lang ako sata enclosure ang hirap maghanap nito)

pics:
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e244/kapauster/HTPC/s2h_1.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e244/kapauster/HTPC/imon_1.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e244/kapauster/HTPC/imon_2.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e244/kapauster/HTPC/imon_3.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e244/kapauster/HTPC/imon_4.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e244/kapauster/HTPC/LG.jpg)

TFL :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 09, 2008 at 05:20 PM
Nice rig sir Kapau.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 09, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Mga sirs tanong ko lang kung paano tatanggaling yung subtitles when you're playing MKV? I just downloaded TF the Movie 720p. I am using KMPlayer or K-Lite. TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kapau on Jul 09, 2008 at 05:26 PM
thanks dyerds.

update ko na lang pagnagawa ko na un front panel nya  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GioSpike on Jul 09, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Mga sirs tanong ko lang kung paano tatanggaling yung subtitles when you're playing MKV? I just downloaded TF the Movie 720p. I am using KMPlayer or K-Lite. TIA

1. Right click mo yung movie while playing. Go to  "Navigate > Subtitle Language".  Disable mo dun.
2. Delete mo yung subtitle file (*.srt) sa folder where the movie file is located.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 09, 2008 at 06:05 PM
i suggest renaming the file, no need to delete it...so in case u need it in the future.

1. Right click mo yung movie while playing. Go to  "Navigate > Subtitle Language".  Disable mo dun.
2. Delete mo yung subtitle file (*.srt) sa folder where the movie file is located.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Jul 09, 2008 at 06:08 PM
@ericag_ph and GioSpike

Thank you very much.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: milken on Jul 09, 2008 at 08:38 PM
Guys, which would you suggest I buy to hook my HTPC to my new Wharfedale speakers?  Amplifier only or receiver?  I don't have any yet.

Was considering Onkyo 606 but I think baka mas okay kung amplifier lang muna since I'm exclusively into HTPC at the moment then later on receiver with pre-outs.  No plans on buying bluray player, wii, dvd player, etc. anytime soon.  Anyway HTPC can play downloaded Bluray rips and even full Bluray backup, decodes the latest audio formats through PowerDVD like TrueHD, DTS-HD, etc., plays FLAC, mp3, avi, mkv, etc. so there might be no need for a receiver.  In short, my HTPC will act as a "pre-amp".  Can this be done?

Any comments or suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 09, 2008 at 11:38 PM
I connect my HTPC to a receiver.
I like the option of having a radio tuner on the receiver.  Amps dont have it.

Guys, which would you suggest I buy to hook my HTPC to my new Wharfedale speakers?  Amplifier only or receiver?  I don't have any yet.

Was considering Onkyo 606 but I think baka mas okay kung amplifier lang muna since I'm exclusively into HTPC at the moment then later on receiver with pre-outs.  No plans on buying bluray player, wii, dvd player, etc. anytime soon.  Anyway HTPC can play downloaded Bluray rips and even full Bluray backup, decodes the latest audio formats through PowerDVD like TrueHD, DTS-HD, etc., plays FLAC, mp3, avi, mkv, etc. so there might be no need for a receiver.  In short, my HTPC will act as a "pre-amp".  Can this be done?

Any comments or suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Jul 10, 2008 at 03:18 AM
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic062.jpg)(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic063.jpg)(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic066.jpg)

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic067.jpg)(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic068.jpg)(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic069.jpg)

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic070.jpg)(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic072.jpg)(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/pic074.jpg)

My low budget rig...still on the process of assembly and more funds to complete..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andre on Jul 10, 2008 at 07:08 AM
I just bought an Acer Aspire X3200 Desktop PC at 16.8T, Small Form Factor Casing, with HDMI & SPDIF out built-in already. check out the specs at google.

I installed K-Lite Codec. and connect it to my 40" lcd tv. And presto, instant HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 10, 2008 at 01:28 PM
How is the performance with .mkv files?


I just bought an Acer Aspire X3200 Desktop PC at 16.8T, Small Form Factor Casing, with HDMI & SPDIF out built-in already. check out the specs at google.

I installed K-Lite Codec. and connect it to my 40" lcd tv. And presto, instant HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: milken on Jul 10, 2008 at 02:36 PM
I connect my HTPC to a receiver.
I like the option of having a radio tuner on the receiver.  Amps dont have it.


Thanks chief. :)

Just a heads up to those interested, new Popcorn Hour models are coming out.  http://www.networkingaudiovideo.com/archives/2008/06/new_popcorn_hour_models_due_ou.php (http://www.networkingaudiovideo.com/archives/2008/06/new_popcorn_hour_models_due_ou.php) 

I'll wait for those models while in the meantime HTPC muna. :)

@demmet, nice HTPC case. Where did you buy it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Jul 10, 2008 at 02:44 PM
I just bought an Acer Aspire X3200 Desktop PC at 16.8T, Small Form Factor Casing, with HDMI & SPDIF out built-in already. check out the specs at google.

I installed K-Lite Codec. and connect it to my 40" lcd tv. And presto, instant HTPC.

found this ad at tipidpc
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2108008 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2108008)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/oa3kn4.jpg)

how much kaya aabutin kung upgrade to 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD and wireless keyboar/mouse.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andre on Jul 10, 2008 at 03:25 PM
The price difference differs in the monitor size. I was quoted at 27T with a 19" monitor. But I only need the CPU.

I played some 720p mkv files, result was flawless. I even played some 1080p, again smooth. BTW, I upgraded it to 2gb mem.

I used hmdi to connect to my lcd tv & spdif cable to my amp.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 10, 2008 at 05:06 PM
does it have a digital coax option instead of spdif?

The price difference differs in the monitor size. I was quoted at 27T with a 19" monitor. But I only need the CPU.

I played some 720p mkv files, result was flawless. I even played some 1080p, again smooth. BTW, I upgraded it to 2gb mem.

I used hmdi to connect to my lcd tv & spdif cable to my amp.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Jul 10, 2008 at 06:41 PM
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/DSC00883.jpg)

Just got this new remote ,

Normally I use a wireless keyboard w/ built in trackball to control the PC , and the AVR remote 99% for volume control.

Hopefully this is sufficient for me to control the PC and reciever volume..

Just finished testing and programming ... This remote works great with my HTPC setup connected to a Reciever and projector  . Now I operate 99% of what i need on this one remote .
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andre on Jul 10, 2008 at 07:54 PM
does it have a digital coax option instead of spdif?

Nope, only spdif or optical output. I just realized I can use my PS3 controller for PC games (haven't played any pc games for a long time). Just google the necessary drivers, dont forget to include the xpadder program.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: GioSpike on Jul 14, 2008 at 08:04 PM
January 9, 2008
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/13th%20month%20pay/Momo.jpg)

2 weeks ago, birthday ng parents ko sa province.  Binigay ko na as a gift yung Logitech Z5300 at 32" LCD na gamit ko dito sa Manila(Para may reason ako mag-upgrade rin! hehehe!). 

Kaya last week, start na ako magcheck ng ipapalit sa Z5300. I was thinking of replacing it with Klipsch Promedia or Logitech Z5500.  I ended up buying this yesterday...

May 18, 2008
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/HT%20Room/Front-Wharfedale84640x480.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/HT%20Room/Rear-WharfedaleWH2640x480.jpg)
Receiver: Yamaha Natural Sound AV Receiver RX-V620
Speakers: Front: Wharfedale 8.4, Rear/Center: Wharfedale WH2


PC Specs:
Mobo: ASROCK Conroe1333-D667 R2.0
Processor: Intel® Core2Duo E6750
Memory: Team Elite PC6400 DDR2 800MHz 1GB*2 (Dual)
Power
Graphics Card: Powercolor ATI HD 3850
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
HDD: 160gb Seagate SATA HDD (Primary), 320gb Seagate SATA HDD, 250gb Seagate SATA HDD
ODD: LG 16X Multi DVD Writer with Light Scribe
PSU: HEC Winpower 550 Watts
LCD: Samsung 22" 2232GW


GioSpike's HTPC


May 27, 2008

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/HT%20Room/MyHTPC-May272008.jpg)

Toshiba Regza 37C3500 37" LCDTV
Yamaha Natural Sound AV Receiver RX-V620
Speakers: Front: Wharfedale 8.4 Rear/Center: Wharfedale WH2
Intel® Core2Duo E6750
ASROCK Conroe1333-D667 R2.0
Team Elite PC6400 DDR2 800MHz 1GB*2 (Dual) Power
Powercolor ATI HD 3850
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
160gb Seagate SATA HDD
320gb Seagate SATA HDD 250gb
Seagate SATA HDD
LG 16X Multi DVD Writer with Light Scribe
HEC Winpower 550 Watts
Logitech MX™5000 Bluetooth Keyboard
Logitech  MX™610 Laser Cordless Mouse

Updated:

CURRENT BEDROOM HT SETUP
Panasonic Home Cinema PTAX200U
80" DIY Projector Screen
10" Portable DVD Player with VGA input
Yamaha Natural Sound AV Receiver RX-V620
Front:Wharfedale 8.4, Center:Wharfedale WH2, Rear: Wharfedale 9.1

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/PTAX200U/AX200-2008_07_14.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/PTAX200U/AX200-2008_07_14rear.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/PTAX200U/AX200-2008_07_14controlcorner.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: kid on Jul 15, 2008 at 01:04 PM
nice setup giospike.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: staind01 on Jul 15, 2008 at 07:02 PM
nice HTPCs!!!


magkano ba wireless keyboard and mouse? anong brand/model ang bang for the buck and where to buy?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: localhost on Jul 17, 2008 at 08:43 PM
Share ko lang po yung aking simple HTPC setup...

the case will be replaced soon (nasimot ko lang yan eh) to blend on the A/V setup. Ini-spray paint ko muna ng Gloss black yung PC case hanggang sa makapili na ako ng tamang mATX casing.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/larry_anda/forum/a36bd3f1.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/larry_anda/forum/b3be2494.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/larry_anda/forum/c62a92e6.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/larry_anda/forum/b44bed0e.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/larry_anda/forum/65ef80af.jpg)



Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 18, 2008 at 06:16 AM
Updated:

CURRENT BEDROOM HT SETUP
Panasonic Home Cinema PTAX200U
80" DIY Projector Screen
10" Portable DVD Player with VGA input
Yamaha Natural Sound AV Receiver RX-V620
Front:Wharfedale 8.4, Center:Wharfedale WH2, Rear: Wharfedale 9.1

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/PTAX200U/AX200-2008_07_14.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/PTAX200U/AX200-2008_07_14rear.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/gio_spike/PTAX200U/AX200-2008_07_14controlcorner.jpg)

Congrats Giospike on your set-up.  Sarap maginternet on an 80 inch screen!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: cnn on Jul 23, 2008 at 05:30 AM
Share ko lang po yung aking simple HTPC setup...

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/larry_anda/forum/c62a92e6.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/larry_anda/forum/65ef80af.jpg)



Bro... inquire lang... ano yung software / application running sa HDTV mo? ganda naman... can you give me info and more close up pics of the application?

TY
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM
mga sirs...

i want to upgrade  my pc to htpc

my old pc specs:

p4  1.6
512+256mb ram
128mb ati vcard

what doi need to buy to be a 1080p  htpc?

thanks

-doughn
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: otepsy on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Bro... inquire lang... ano yung software / application running sa HDTV mo? ganda naman... can you give me info and more close up pics of the application?

TY

if i'm not mistaken it's Windows Media Center
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: cnn on Jul 23, 2008 at 12:06 PM
if i'm not mistaken it's Windows Media Center

TY sir... I'll do check it out...

Nice setup you got there...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:36 PM
i want to upgrade  my pc to htpc

my old pc specs:

p4  1.6
512+256mb ram
128mb ati vcard

what doi need to buy to be a 1080p  htpc?

-doughn


Buy a new mobo that is compatible with at least Intel's Core2 Duo or having the new AMD chipset.  P4 doesn't have enough horsepower for 1080p.  Maiinis ka lang sa out of synch AV.  If you stick with 720p, then just add more RAM and upgrade your video card to at least an HD2600 ATI or 8400 Nvidia.

Get at least 1GB of RAM if you're running XP.  2GB if you're running Vista.

Get an excellent monitor, kahit anong type (CRT, LCD, Plasma).

Get a decent set of speakers, kahit 2.1 ch.  You may have to buy a separate sound card for that.

Pero eto unang-una mong gawin,  get some high def contents and try them muna with your current PC. 




Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: localhost on Jul 24, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Bro... inquire lang... ano yung software / application running sa HDTV mo? ganda naman... can you give me info and more close up pics of the application?

TY

Hi CNN, Yes It's Windows Media Center that is built in for Windows Vista Home Premium and Ultimate edition. If you want to see some screenshots ad feature of this Media center please head on to: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/media-center.aspx

I will also recommend Cyberlink PowerCinema if you just want the Media Center for your HTPC and not planning to upgrade your OS...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: busabos on Jul 25, 2008 at 07:56 AM
How would my HTPC output 1080p?  I believe mine only outputs 480p.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: localhost on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:48 AM
Pagakakaalam ko eh dapat parehong capable yung HTPC mo (graphics card) at yung TV mo. The TV should accept 1080 input ganun din yung graphics. Pero if both are capable dapat ma-access mo siya sa graphics option ng HTPC mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: doughn on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Buy a new mobo that is compatible with at least Intel's Core2 Duo or having the new AMD chipset.  P4 doesn't have enough horsepower for 1080p.  Maiinis ka lang sa out of synch AV.  If you stick with 720p, then just add more RAM and upgrade your video card to at least an HD2600 ATI or 8400 Nvidia.

Get at least 1GB of RAM if you're running XP.  2GB if you're running Vista.

Get an excellent monitor, kahit anong type (CRT, LCD, Plasma).

Get a decent set of speakers, kahit 2.1 ch.  You may have to buy a separate sound card for that.

Pero eto unang-una mong gawin,  get some high def contents and try them muna with your current PC. 







thanks sir for the info
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: cnn on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Hi CNN, Yes It's Windows Media Center that is built in for Windows Vista Home Premium and Ultimate edition. If you want to see some screenshots ad feature of this Media center please head on to: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/media-center.aspx

I will also recommend Cyberlink PowerCinema if you just want the Media Center for your HTPC and not planning to upgrade your OS...

Thank you very much for the reply.  Really appreciate your comments. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: localhost on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Thank you very much for the reply.  Really appreciate your comments. :)

No worries po....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: joey on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:13 AM
New addition for my HTPC setup....

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/joey1355/IMG_2853.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/joey1355/IMG_2851.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/joey1355/IMG_2871.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/joey1355/IMG_2865.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: busabos on Aug 21, 2008 at 09:02 AM
Question lang sa mga experts.

Im currently using 6600GT in my htpc setup.  AFAIK it doesnt support HDMI, but for some reason it worked for me using dvi to hdmi adapter.  Now Im planning to upgrade my video card to an ATI hdmi enabled card (low end lang).  My question is, would I see significant improvement since I'll be using an HDMI enabled card? 

Also how would I make it output 1080p?

TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 21, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Question lang sa mga experts.

Im currently using 6600GT in my htpc setup.  AFAIK it doesnt support HDMI, but for some reason it worked for me using dvi to hdmi adapter.  Now Im planning to upgrade my video card to an ATI hdmi enabled card (low end lang).  My question is, would I see significant improvement since I'll be using an HDMI enabled card? 

Also how would I make it output 1080p?

TIA

well whats your htpc setup for now?
good thing about discreet HD lineup from ati lessens the stress on CPU and more on the video card during HD movies playback..
and also 6600gt with dvi to hdmi adapter should work cause they both send digital signals .. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jay_26 on Aug 21, 2008 at 05:15 PM
Amigo Ninjanbabez

Post mo naman ung setup mo  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: cnn on Aug 22, 2008 at 02:29 AM
Amigo Ninjanbabez

Post mo naman ung setup mo  ;)

Hoonga naman... Pics... Pics... NINJABENZ :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 22, 2008 at 05:24 AM
Hoonga naman... Pics... Pics... NINJABENZ :)
Amigo Ninjanbabez

Post mo naman ung setup mo  ;)

baka ma-strain mata nyo sa sobrang kalat .. hahaha  :)
specs nalang para malaman nyo kung gaano ako kabarat ..  :)

windows vista ultimate trial (reformat every 20 days *sold my vista ultimate already ;D )
amd x2 4600
2x1gb team elite
250gb seagate internal hdd + 1tb wd external
combo drive (borrowed from a friend)
pink eforcer case
780g emaxx


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 26, 2008 at 09:24 AM
Tried using analog HDTV settings on the HD4850 by connecting the PC to a 32 inch super fine pitch Sony HDTV CRT using the component video dongle cable.  While texts are not as sharp as that of a regular PC monitor due to limitations of the TVs resolution, they are comfortably readable from normal TV viewing range.  However,  playback quality of high def MKVs is absolutely beautiful!!!    With the 4850, I could even force 1080p, 60Hz settings on the analog TV but the texts became too small.   Watched 2 high def mkvs last night using 720p, 60Hz settings.  Great!

Those with surplus Japanese HDTV CRTs may want to give this a try.

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:12 AM
tried watching MKV's with sony 32" hdtv crt although maganda talaga, mas prefer ko pa rin manood sa samsung 32" lcdtv kasi mas tipid sa kuryente.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:21 AM
tried watching MKV's with sony 32" hdtv crt although maganda talaga, mas prefer ko pa rin manood sa samsung 32" lcdtv kasi mas tipid sa kuryente.. hehe
how much is the average power consumption of 32" crt tvs?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:47 AM
how much is the average power consumption of 32" crt tvs?

My Sony KV-32DX850 is rated 190W.  It came out in 2003.   This TV is heavier than my 50 inch plasma.   ;D  Kung mas lumang CRT model, malamang mas mataas ang power consumption.   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM
My Sony KV-32DX850 is rated 190W.  It came out in 2003.   This TV is heavier than my 50 inch plasma.   ;D  Kung mas lumang CRT model, malamang mas mataas ang power consumption.   
i see .. no wonder our electric bill skyrocketed last year (additional 700 pesos) when i replaced my 26 lcdtv with a 29" crt (bought in pier) .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gunblade977 on Aug 26, 2008 at 06:38 PM
baka ma-strain mata nyo sa sobrang kalat .. hahaha  :)
specs nalang para malaman nyo kung gaano ako kabarat ..  :)

windows vista ultimate trial (reformat every 20 days *sold my vista ultimate already ;D )
amd x2 4600
2x1gb team elite
250gb seagate internal hdd + 1tb wd external
combo drive (borrowed from a friend)
pink eforcer case
780g emaxx




bro, with this setup, kayang kaya na mga 720p mkvs?
ganyan din plano ko isetup soon :D
hintay ko sana yung Gibagabyte na may 128MB sideport pero parang hindi lumabas dito sa atin eh
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: bigtym on Aug 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/edpenas/DSC00883.jpg)

Just got this new remote ,

Normally I use a wireless keyboard w/ built in trackball to control the PC , and the AVR remote 99% for volume control.

Hopefully this is sufficient for me to control the PC and reciever volume..

Bro where did you buy this? How much?

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 27, 2008 at 06:10 AM
bro, with this setup, kayang kaya na mga 720p mkvs?
ganyan din plano ko isetup soon :D
hintay ko sana yung Gibagabyte na may 128MB sideport pero parang hindi lumabas dito sa atin eh
well as per my experience ..
our local distro here does not order new stocks/revisions unless the old stocks/revisions are depleted ..
bad thing is that the old revision of gigabytes 780g has so many negative feedbacks ..
so as you see most guys already bought emaxx .. heck, i even got the 2nd or 3rd revision already ..  ;D
btw this plays 720p and 1080p without hiccups .. ;)
bluray and hd dvd playback is also flawless (i have and identical setup with my friend who has a bluray/hd dvd combo drive)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Is there a big difference between C2D 2.53GHz and 3.0GHz in terms of video conversion, HD playback? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Is there a big difference between C2D 2.53GHz and 3.0GHz in terms of video conversion, HD playback? 

Audio/Video transcoding speed, NLE speed:  Yes

HD Playback:  Based on what's currently available, Yes on paper but most likely not discernible at all during actual playback.   Fast forward and back should be smoother.    For HD DVD and BD, quality of playback is also dependent on power of the graphics card.

3D Benchmark:  Yes
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 27, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Is there a big difference between C2D 2.53GHz and 3.0GHz in terms of video conversion, HD playback? 
in video conversion, Yes .. media encoding is frequency dependent ..  ;D
HD playback, No .. just like what Clondalkin posted, smoother lang during fast forwarding and back .. ;)
btw how much is the price difference of the two? just remember media encoding and playback is frequency dependent .. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 27, 2008 at 02:15 PM
in video conversion, Yes .. media encoding is frequency dependent ..  ;D
HD playback, No .. just like what Clondalkin posted, smoother lang during fast forwarding and back .. ;)
btw how much is the price difference of the two? just remember media encoding and playback is frequency dependent .. ;)

P2500-3000 is the difference.  Worth it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 27, 2008 at 03:24 PM
P2500-3000 is the difference.  Worth it?

How often do you upgrade?   With no new high def video format in the immediate horizon, any C2D system you build right now would not be underpowered for at least 3 years.   Nothing beats a system that can play whatever video/movie/game you put into it smoothly, especially those CPU-power hog 1080p contents.

3,000 in 3 years is like 2.74 pesos per day.

But if you are considering the 3.0GHz C2D, you might as well choose the 2.4Ghz Quad Core assuming your mobo supports the Quad since you mentioned video transcoding.  Set up a dual monitor so that you can watch high def stuff on one while encoding/rendering on the other (or looking at your patient's charts on the other  ).  I think the current price level is about the same.  Many mainstream apps ang games may not be optimally "parallelized" at the moment but you'd surely get better leverage out of a Quad 3 years down the line.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gunblade977 on Aug 27, 2008 at 04:06 PM
well as per my experience ..
our local distro here does not order new stocks/revisions unless the old stocks/revisions are depleted ..
bad thing is that the old revision of gigabytes 780g has so many negative feedbacks ..
so as you see most guys already bought emaxx .. heck, i even got the 2nd or 3rd revision already ..  ;D
btw this plays 720p and 1080p without hiccups .. ;)
bluray and hd dvd playback is also flawless (i have and identical setup with my friend who has a bluray/hd dvd combo drive)

thanks! kelangan ng mag ipon ipon ulit, P4 2.4Ghz lang yung HTPC ko eh, japanese pa yung OS, hirap basahin :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 27, 2008 at 08:58 PM
How often do you upgrade?   With no new high def video format in the immediate horizon, any C2D system you build right now would not be underpowered for at least 3 years.   Nothing beats a system that can play whatever video/movie/game you put into it smoothly, especially those CPU-power hog 1080p contents.

3,000 in 3 years is like 2.74 pesos per day.

But if you are considering the 3.0GHz C2D, you might as well choose the 2.4Ghz Quad Core assuming your mobo supports the Quad since you mentioned video transcoding.  Set up a dual monitor so that you can watch high def stuff on one while encoding/rendering on the other (or looking at your patient's charts on the other  ).  I think the current price level is about the same.  Many mainstream apps ang games may not be optimally "parallelized" at the moment but you'd surely get better leverage out of a Quad 3 years down the line.


Sir Condalkin, thanks so much for the advise.  Yes, the price difference between a C2D 3.0GHz is P1k compared to a 2.4GHz Quad core.  My present Athlon XP2000 setup which conked out on me served me a good 5-6 years so most probably my next upgrade would be 2013 (?)  ;)  Might as well, shell out a bit more for a Quad core.    ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 28, 2008 at 05:36 AM
thanks! kelangan ng mag ipon ipon ulit, P4 2.4Ghz lang yung HTPC ko eh, japanese pa yung OS, hirap basahin :D
hey if you want to setup a new htpc .. feel free to send me a pm for advise .. we can go to techjunctions shop in bf parañaque .. ;)
(taga las piñas ka di ba?)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 28, 2008 at 05:40 AM
How often do you upgrade?   With no new high def video format in the immediate horizon, any C2D system you build right now would not be underpowered for at least 3 years.   Nothing beats a system that can play whatever video/movie/game you put into it smoothly, especially those CPU-power hog 1080p contents.

3,000 in 3 years is like 2.74 pesos per day.

But if you are considering the 3.0GHz C2D, you might as well choose the 2.4Ghz Quad Core assuming your mobo supports the Quad since you mentioned video transcoding.  Set up a dual monitor so that you can watch high def stuff on one while encoding/rendering on the other (or looking at your patient's charts on the other  ).  I think the current price level is about the same.  Many mainstream apps ang games may not be optimally "parallelized" at the moment but you'd surely get better leverage out of a Quad 3 years down the line.


actually video encoding/rendering (most media stuff) will be utilizing all four cores of a quad core and some games too .. and with the price of a  core2quad 2.4ghz .. it will be the best option .. you can never go wrong  .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ADM202E on Sep 02, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Bro where did you buy this? How much?

Thanks

Im interested with this as well. Where can I buy it?TIA.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 03, 2008 at 12:48 AM
most computer shops have these multimedia remote .. ;D
nemesis91 also sells logitech remote (forgot the model name though) ..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Sep 04, 2008 at 12:30 PM
My CRT Monitor is showing signs of retirement. I want to replace this with a 22" LCD Monitor with HDMI. Any suggestion folks? thanks ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gunblade977 on Sep 04, 2008 at 01:53 PM
My CRT Monitor is showing signs of retirement. I want to replace this with a 22" LCD Monitor with HDMI. Any suggestion folks? thanks ;D

I previously had an HP w2207h, this monitor already has HDMI, tested it with my dv600 and it already accepts both the video and audio(though the built in speakers are a bit weak). Some other features it has are: USB hub, portrait and landscape orientation.

Also I think the latest HP is the w2228h, you may also want to check that out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jambam on Sep 04, 2008 at 02:29 PM
Bro where did you buy this? How much?

Thanks

I bought it thru my brother (circuit City shop in the US) $50 on sale

most computer shops have these multimedia remote .. ;D
nemesis91 also sells logitech remote (forgot the model name though) ..

This is a bit different that the normal ones sold , it has a mouse function similar to how you operate a laser pointer . I don't think there is a logitech harmony remote that incorporates the functionality of the logitech aero mouse , which would have been the equivalent , except the harmony has so much more functions ...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jerix on Sep 05, 2008 at 10:05 AM
I previously had an HP w2207h, this monitor already has HDMI, tested it with my dv600 and it already accepts both the video and audio(though the built in speakers are a bit weak). Some other features it has are: USB hub, portrait and landscape orientation.

Also I think the latest HP is the w2228h, you may also want to check that out.

Bro thanks for the info.. ill check this out  ;D

BTW, will this be nice too f i use this as a monitor for my PIO 600 DVD player?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gunblade977 on Sep 05, 2008 at 04:22 PM
Bro thanks for the info.. ill check this out  ;D

BTW, will this be nice too f i use this as a monitor for my PIO 600 DVD player?

since this is a TFT panel, mejo limited ang viewing angle. Ginamit ko ito sa bedroom setup using a tv tuner and the pio dv600. Ok naman sya, just angle it properly. When watching the local news, kuntento na ko sa built in speakers, pero pag dvd watching naka hook sa external speakers.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 06, 2008 at 01:47 PM
My CRT Monitor is showing signs of retirement. I want to replace this with a 22" LCD Monitor with HDMI. Any suggestion folks? thanks ;D

Just got Viewsonic 22" VX series. Specs look good w/ 20,000:1 CR, 2ms response time, w/ speakers. Connectivity though is through DVI and D-sub only. I can always get an HDMI-DVI adapter if the need arises.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mojako on Sep 06, 2008 at 07:28 PM
My HTPC - dual monitor setup.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk8/mojako8/htpc.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 06, 2008 at 11:18 PM
My new rig:

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/PinoyDVD/DSCN0170.jpg)

Monitor: Viewsonic 22" VX series
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
Video: Palit Geforce 9500GT
Memory: Geil 2GB RAM
HDD: Samsung 320GB
Optical Drives: Lite-on Combo Drive, Lite-on Multi Drive w/ Dual layer support
Powersupply: Powerlogic 550W

Thanks guys for helping me decide on my PC upgrade.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 07, 2008 at 07:05 AM
My new rig:

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/PinoyDVD/DSCN0170.jpg)

Monitor: Viewsonic 22" VX series
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
Video: Palit Geforce 9500GT
Memory: Geil 2GB RAM
HDD: Samsung 320GB
Optical Drives: Lite-on Combo Drive, Lite-on Multi Drive w/ Dual layer support
Powersupply: Powerlogic 550W

Thanks guys for helping me decide on my PC upgrade.  ;D

nice choice sa video card bro  :)
you might want to change your psu bro .. pm me maybe i can give you a good deal  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 07, 2008 at 01:00 PM
nice choice sa video card bro  :)
you might want to change your psu bro .. pm me maybe i can give you a good deal  ;)

Thanks for the offer but I think it will do for the time being.  Got short sa budget that's why I settled for Powerlogic. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: sov19 on Sep 07, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Sir how much po umabot for that setup? thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 07, 2008 at 05:01 PM
Sir how much po umabot for that setup? thanks.

P40k for the CPU and monitor more or less.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Sep 07, 2008 at 05:07 PM
P40k for the CPU and monitor more or less.  ;)

Wow Doc. congrats! Nice specs.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: firestorm on Sep 07, 2008 at 06:56 PM
My HTPC - dual monitor setup.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk8/mojako8/htpc.jpg)

Hi mojacko, what are the specs of your HTPC and what connection did you use for the monitor and LCD TV? Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 07, 2008 at 09:33 PM
Wow Doc. congrats! Nice specs.  :)

Yup.  Now I can watch my VCDs flawlessly.  ;D j/k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mojako on Sep 08, 2008 at 01:33 AM
firestorm,
specs:
intel e2160 (overclocked)
radeon 3850 Vid Card (1 yr old na)

i use a loong HDMI cable to the 32" LCD
normal DVI connection to the 22" lcd
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Sep 08, 2008 at 01:54 AM
Intel E8400
Gigabyte GAP31D-S3L P31
Kingston 1GB
Asus Geforce 8500GT
400Gig - tv series (divx)
500gig - os/mp3/pictures/data/back-up
750gig - movies (divx)
Samsung DVDRW
LG BDRW
Lian Li Casing
Cooler master 450 PSU
Anbon LCD 17"
Samsung LA32A330J1
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: staind01 on Sep 12, 2008 at 10:12 AM
magkano ba wireless keyboard and mouse? anong brand/model ang bang for the buck and where to buy?

ok ba yung wireless keyboard and mouse combo sa CD-R King? anyone tried it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 12, 2008 at 10:27 AM
ok ba yung wireless keyboard and mouse combo sa CD-R King? anyone tried it?

One of the most important things you have to consider before buying a wireless keyboard or mouse is yung intended range of use.  For instance, if you want to have wireless gadgets for your HTPC in the living room, or in the presentation room, then you need those high radio frequency (expensive) models with up to 10-15 meter range. 

Pero kung normal PC usage lang, that is, you would be computing from within 6 feet distance, then standard wireless keyboard and mouse are fine.

Maselan ako sa feel ng keyboard and sensitivity ng mouse so I prefer Microsoft or Logitech.  Mahal pero worth the investment because years naman ginagamit.  I think the "feel" of keyboard and/or mouse is a very personal thing.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: staind01 on Sep 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM
thx sir Clondalkin!


unfortunately... er, fortunately for moi, di ako maselan sa KB and mouse so i can go cheap! ;)  ;D ;D

and yes, for living room/bedroom use only.

anyone of you tried the CD-R King ones yet? feedback naman. TIA!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:55 PM
The cheapest Logitech wireless (1.5K in Gilmore) is cheaper than the CDR King Wireless(2.5K), and better...since you can upgrade the drive to be Vista compatible. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:55 PM
You might also want to try a bluetooth mouse.  At least you don't need an IR receiver to connect with your mouse even when you are far away in a room.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 12, 2008 at 06:52 PM
If cdr king's wireless keyboard and mouse combo is 2.5k, why not go with this? This is what I'm using and I got this for only 2k - 2.3k

Logitech LX 310 Laser
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2enazxf.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Sep 12, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Saan po meron nito? 60$ USD ito eh!
Medyo mura ng konti eh!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 12, 2008 at 07:50 PM
I bought this in Gilmore, QC. Try nyo ring hanapin sa mall pero siguro mas mahal ng konti. Nandito ba kayo sa Pinas?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:49 PM
Dyerds- Ok iyan' nabili mo....sayang dehins ko nakita, ang nabili ko tuloy iyun' pinaka entry level nila na.

Iyun' EX90...1.5K ang turing sa Gaisano, pero hindi daw Vista compatible...kaya na-papunta ako sa itaas, 1.7K daw tapos di-nemo sa akin' patay...nabayaran ko tuloy. Sana yan' nalang ang nakita ko...Laser na, silver & Black pa....bagay sana sa setup ko.  :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 12, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Thanks sir. Madali lang sulusyon dyan benta mo yang keyboard mo tapos bili ka ng bago.  ;)  ;D Ang hirap nga lang hanapin nito nung nasa Gilmore ako mga last 3 pieces na lang sila. Ayaw ko namang bilhin yung LX 710 kasi hindi ko naman gagamitin lahat ng features nya pero mas maganda at mas mahal sya symepre.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 12, 2008 at 11:33 PM
gunblade ill be at questlogic next weekend .. :)
samahan kita para makapag-canvass ka for an htpc  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:27 AM
...Laser na, silver & Black pa....bagay sana sa setup ko.  :-\

What do you mean laser? Is this different from IR?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:18 PM
What do you mean laser? Is this different from IR?

Laser is the tech of the mouse sensor itself and is more sensitive than the previous gen which was was optical.   IR (infrared) is the tech of standard wireless with up to 6 feet range only.  Short range high radio frequency (2.GHz - bluetooth) is the more advance wireless tech with range well beyond 6 feet.

Be careful ng ibang Microsoft mouse/desktop combo.  Laser nga yung mouse pero ordinary wireless lang yung keyboard so the transmitter is ordinary IR (limited din ang range).   The higher (more expensive) models lang yung bluetooth both yung mouse and keyboard.

BTW, start downloading Iron Man 720p.  Katatapos ko lang panoorin.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:24 PM
Laser is the tech of the mouse sensor itself and is more sensitive than the previous gen which was was optical.   IR (infrared) is the tech of standard wireless with up to 6 feet range only.  Short range high radio frequency (2.GHz - bluetooth) is the more advance wireless tech with range well beyond 6 feet.

Be careful ng ibang Microsoft mouse/desktop combo.  Laser nga yung mouse pero ordinary wireless lang yung keyboard so the transmitter is ordinary IR (limited din ang range).   The higher (more expensive) models lang yung bluetooth both yung mouse and keyboard.

BTW, start downloading Iron Man 720p.  Katatapos ko lang panoorin.   ;D

Thanks for the thorough explanation.  Iron Man meron na??? Woohoo!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Quote
BTW, start downloading Iron Man 720p.  Katatapos ko lang panoorin.

Clodakin- Wala na bang German Subs iyun' HD ? Kal-labas din nagyon lang nang(Axxo & Dash) Divx DVD Retail. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Sep 14, 2008 at 05:03 AM
Clodakin- Wala na bang German Subs iyun' HD ? Kal-labas din nagyon lang nang(Axxo & Dash) Divx DVD Retail. ;)

http://*************/MTM4MDE/Iron.Man.REPACK.720p.BluRay.x264-SEPTiC

http://*********.com/files/145020032/Iron.Man.REPACK.720p.BluRay.x264-SEPTiC_***********part01.rar

do we have the same files guys?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Sep 14, 2008 at 07:11 AM
Ok mga MKV ni SEPTIC. Baka ito nga yung malinaw na copy.
Di pa tapos yung sample eh! Di ko pa ma check.
Super bagal ng connection ko. 5 - 10 kbps yung download.
Aabutin ako ng months bka bago matapos...
Hehehehehe...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on Sep 14, 2008 at 11:41 AM
If cdr king's wireless keyboard and mouse combo is 2.5k, why not go with this? This is what I'm using and I got this for only 2k - 2.3k

Logitech LX 310 Laser
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2enazxf.jpg)

got this at PC Hub for 2.2k..... ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Walang any kind of sub yung Septic na 720p.  Malinis na malinis yung file.  Mas malinis pa sa puso ko.   ;D

Just curious, why would you get yung Divx or Axxo or DVD r*p kung available yung 720 na BD r*p with very very  healthy seeding (HD-bits.ro)?   I wouldnt be surprised kung lalabas na 1080p soonest.

I originally intended to watch first sa moviehouse kaso coming soon pa rin sa Tokyo ang Iron Man.  Baka magkaroon ako ng multiple personality disorder sa sobrang stress ng kakahintay ng theather roadshow while nasa harap ko na yung download.   ;D  I couldnt imagine Downey as a superhero at all, pero napakaganda palang pelikula nire.  ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 14, 2008 at 12:37 PM
 I wouldnt be surprised kung lalabas na 1080p soonest.

Hi-DefinitionTorrents already have the 1080p version of Iron Man. Where did you get your 720p version sir? MKV?

Edit: Okay...I saw the 720p version in HD-Bit.ro. I never downloaded a 1080p file before coz of some issues I read here but I'm tempted to get the 1080p version of Ironman.

HTPC Specs:
Graphic Card: 512mb Inno3d GeForce 9600GT ddr3 (256bit)
RAM: 2gb ddr2-800 pc2-6400 Corsair

Will this be enough for a 1080p? TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Sep 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Because of time....completed it in 2 hours with my measly download rate and converted it to DVD in 28 minutes, with DD5.1 audio sans any pixelization, anyway....the latest Axxo and Dash Divx rip is really from a retail R1, even the hard coded subs are now in english, BTW Axxo subs are availaable via Subscene and Dash release included subs however, for those who prefer teh srt, it's available in subscene and Opensubs (for info to those interested)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2008 at 01:01 PM
Because of time....completed it in 2 hours with my measly download rate and converted it to DVD in 28 minutes, with DD5.1 audio sans any pixelization, anyway....the latest Axxo and Dash Divx rip is really from a retail R1, even the hard coded subs are now in english, BTW Axxo subs are availaable via Subscene and Dash release included subs however, for those who prefer teh srt, it's available in subscene and Opensubs (for info to those interested)

Understood.  I tried PLDT's 999 peso DSL last month during my vacation and I could manage to finish downloading a healthy torrent through a public site in 2-3 days (average speed was barely 50 kb/sec).   With HD-bits.ro, it should be shorter than that considering the heavy seeding.  I strongly feel that real good movies, especially kung pa-isa-isa rin lang, are worth that kind of wait, unless you intend to watch using a DVD player.

Dun naman sa mahilit sa high def version ng TV series, the best time to get is 1 - 3 days after the episode was shown in the US para hinog na hinog na yung seeds.   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2008 at 01:17 PM

HTPC Specs:
Graphic Card: 512mb Inno3d GeForce 9600GT ddr3 (256bit)
RAM: 2gb ddr2-800 pc2-6400 Corsair

Will this be enough for a 1080p? TIA

If your CPU is C2D or more powerful, BAKA.  Smooth 1080p mkv playback through an HTPC is content dependent also.  Ewan ko ba, meron talagang magaling mag-encode siguro, or probably when they encoded, they used a very powerful PC so walang sinok yung resulting compressed file.

Ayun, kapapasok lang ng 1080p version sa HD-bits.   I'll get it if healthy na yung seeds and hopefully walang sinok sa C2D ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 14, 2008 at 01:27 PM
If your CPU is C2D or more powerful, BAKA.  Smooth 1080p mkv playback through an HTPC is content dependent also.  Ewan ko ba, meron talagang magaling mag-encode siguro, or probably when they encoded, they used a very powerful PC so walang sinok yung resulting compressed file.

Yes it's C2D. Oh well...I started downloading the 1080p version. Bahala na si Batman...si Ironman pala.  ;D I'll just keep my fingers cross na lang kapag tapos ko na i-download.  ;D Thanks for the info.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Sep 14, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Boss Clondalkin,
Gaano kabilis internet connection nyo? ilang hours lang sa inyo yung 1 MKV na 4.5Gig?
Nasa Pinas ba location nyo?

regards,
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Tokyo.  100Mbps fiber optic network for about $40 a month with multiple subscribed email addresses. 15 mins yung download ng 4.5GB Iron Man kase sustained at about 5MB/sec ang DL speed sa dami ng seeders (this only happens dun sa super popular na torrent - otherwise, a normally healthy 4.5GB torrent would take about 1-3 hours to download depende sa seeds).    I leave the PC uploading during the entire weekend to share back much more than I get,pati na dun sa account ng relatives ko. 

Kung walang seeder, wala rin effect yung bandwidth available.

Using PLDT 999-peso DSL, kaya hanggang 3 simultaneous high def downloads but I recommend to my relatives to do it one at a time to maximize their DL speed tutal they always "download and run" - ako yung taga-upload nila kaya dehins na-ba-ban  ;D
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Sep 14, 2008 at 07:56 PM
Wow!!! super bilis...Dami mo na siguro mga HD movies...
Ako divx movie lang...yung mga 700mb lang...
Kakainggit naman speed ng internet mo.
Buti hindi bawal ang torrent dyan sa japan. Yung friend ko sa singapore
bawal na daw eh! Yng internet provider na ang nag wawarning sa mga subscriber.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2008 at 08:07 PM

Buti hindi bawal ang torrent dyan sa japan. Yung friend ko sa singapore
bawal na daw eh! Yng internet provider na ang nag wawarning sa mga subscriber.

Bawal kahit saan.  I know some friends who got Copyright Infringement warning letters from Paramount Pictures.  Nakasulat pa yung date, time and title of torrent that was downloaded.

It's not surprising at all that Hollywood is bullying ISPs to impose stricter rules on torrents.

Sabi nga ng torrent sites, get while you still can, but just be careful.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 14, 2008 at 08:19 PM
Tokyo.  100Mbps fiber optic network for about $40 a month with multiple subscribed email addresses. 15 mins yung download ng 4.5GB Iron Man kase sustained at about 5MB/sec ang DL speed sa dami ng seeders (this only happens dun sa super popular na torrent - otherwise, a normally healthy 4.5GB torrent would take about 1-3 hours to download depende sa seeds).   

@#$%^!!!!!  :o  :o :o Sana ganyan din dito. 4.5g will take me about 1 11/2 - 2 days to download sometimes abot pa ng 3 days kapag minalas.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Sep 14, 2008 at 11:52 PM
@#$%^!!!!!  :o  :o :o Sana ganyan din dito. 4.5g will take me about 1 11/2 - 2 days to download sometimes abot pa ng 3 days kapag minalas.

took me 1hr 10 mins sa 720p ni septic...

http://********/Iron.Man.1080p.BluRay.x264-1920  <--this one took me twice the hour.

using jdwnloader and internet download manager.

BTW no htpc for me.. ps3/tversity streaming over gigabit switch.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Sep 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Demmet,
May account ka ba sa rapidshare / megaupload?
Yung download manager kasi applicable dito eh!
Bilis din ng internet mo...


Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Sep 15, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Demmet,
May account ka ba sa rapidshare / megaupload?
Yung download manager kasi applicable dito eh!
Bilis din ng internet mo...




Yup..rapid and megashare sakin..tried torrents.kaso wala akong patience sa pag iintay. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

$30 for 6 months..more reasonable compared to buying blu ray disc.

invested the "blu ray money" in getting a 1TB HDD.



(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4989/speedpd1.th.jpg) (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speedpd1.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 15, 2008 at 12:12 AM
took me 1hr 10 mins sa 720p ni septic...

http://********/Iron.Man.1080p.BluRay.x264-1920  <--this one took me twice the hour.

using jdwnloader and internet download manager.

BTW no htpc for me..
ps3/tversity streaming over gigabit switch.

How about this jdwnloader, is this a freeware?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Sep 15, 2008 at 12:14 AM
sent u pm.. sorry mods.. OT na kami.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 15, 2008 at 12:54 AM
sent u pm.. sorry mods.. OT na kami.

Thank you sir. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: SF40 on Sep 15, 2008 at 02:38 AM
baka ma-strain mata nyo sa sobrang kalat .. hahaha  :)
specs nalang para malaman nyo kung gaano ako kabarat ..  :)

windows vista ultimate trial (reformat every 20 days *sold my vista ultimate already ;D )
amd x2 4600
2x1gb team elite
250gb seagate internal hdd + 1tb wd external
combo drive (borrowed from a friend)
pink eforcer case
780g emaxx


hello mga sir i also have the same set up as sir ninjababez hirap sya pag mga 1080p mkv ang naka salang
any advice how to maximize my htpc setup currently using the vga to vga connection mas prefer ko to kasi ang pangit pag HDMI gamit ko text really unreadable tapos ung video from hdmi connection not as flawless compared pag sa vga im using windows XP
sir ninjababez help naman sir   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2008 at 08:47 AM
1080p Iron Man plays smooth all throughout and visibly more stunning than Septic's on a 50V plasma.  English subtitle is already embedded in the encode.

Sound is 5.1 Ch AC3 only so if you want the DTS version for archiving, hintay muna.

This movie is really good ne.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ravencreed on Sep 15, 2008 at 12:38 PM




(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4989/speedpd1.th.jpg) (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speedpd1.jpg)

hello sir,

ano ang isp mo? ang bilis ng connection speed mo ah, saan place ba ito?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 15, 2008 at 07:07 PM
I also download through rapidshare so I dont worry about seeds and get full bandwidth. I can get one for 200php/month. Well worth it IMHO
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 15, 2008 at 07:20 PM
I also download through rapidshare so I dont worry about seeds and get full bandwidth. I can get one for 200php/month. Well worth it IMHO

Bro, where did you get a rapidshare account at 200php/month?  I got mine for 400+/month.. It's definitely worth it.. I get max speed at 180kb/sec and average at 100kb/sec..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Sep 15, 2008 at 07:59 PM
hello sir,

ano ang isp mo? ang bilis ng connection speed mo ah, saan place ba ito?

ISP is Comcast(cable),location ko is Woodbridge,Virginia.

Latest haul is Iron Man 720p/1080p and Deception.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: milken on Sep 15, 2008 at 08:20 PM
I read that usenet followed by rapidshare are good sources of files. But they are paid subscriptions only so no worries about sharing/ratio.  How's the HD contents in rapidshare? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 15, 2008 at 08:28 PM
If you know where to look you can find the same files for rapidshare download which you can find in torrents.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 15, 2008 at 08:44 PM
Bro, where did you get a rapidshare account at 200php/month? 

Sir up ko lang question ni sir Oreo.  ;D TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 15, 2008 at 08:56 PM
^My bad, globe load pala payment, if anyone is interested pm me
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM
I read that usenet followed by rapidshare are good sources of files. But they are paid subscriptions only so no worries about sharing/ratio.  How's the HD contents in rapidshare? 

HD content in rapidshare is so so.. Not as much as in torrent but catching up..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Sep 16, 2008 at 01:45 AM
Bro, where did you get a rapidshare account at 200php/month?  I got mine for 400+/month.. It's definitely worth it.. I get max speed at 180kb/sec and average at 100kb/sec..

is the P400/month rapidshare account premium? did you pay online in pesos? demmet got a good deal on his premium account, he paid only $30 for a 6-month subscription and his download speed reaches up to 1mbps (using 4.3 mbps ISP).

my bittorrent speed average at 80-90 kbps and max at 120kbps when downloading mkv. if the P400/month subscription can only speed up to 100kbps (ave) & 180kbps (max) then it's not a lot of improvement pala.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Sep 16, 2008 at 06:01 AM
I read that usenet followed by rapidshare are good sources of files. But they are paid subscriptions only so no worries about sharing/ratio.  How's the HD contents in rapidshare? 

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/IronMan2008720p17-47-57.jpg)

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/IronMan2008720p17-47-04.jpg)

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/IronMan2008720p17-45-30.jpg)

You'll be the judge. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 16, 2008 at 08:17 AM
is the P400/month rapidshare account premium? did you pay online in pesos? demmet got a good deal on his premium account, he paid only $30 for a 6-month subscription and his download speed reaches up to 1mbps (using 4.3 mbps ISP).

my bittorrent speed average at 80-90 kbps and max at 120kbps when downloading mkv. if the P400/month subscription can only speed up to 100kbps (ave) & 180kbps (max) then it's not a lot of improvement pala.

The only difference is that with a rapidshare premium account coupled with a download manager like orbit you get the max download speed that your ISP gives you and it doesn't matter if you are the only one downloading the file.

With torrents you only get max speeds only if the torrent is well seeded, plus there is no need to seed back. Here in pinas I don't think it is practiced yet but in other countries they throttle the speeds of subscribers using torrents but not with file hosting sites like rapidshare, megaupload and usenet.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Sep 16, 2008 at 08:27 AM
sir john,

what is your rapidshare download speed? i am willing to pay the subscription but first i want to know someone who has the same DSL connection speed (1mbps) that i have using rapidshare premium account. if it has vast improvement than my current 120kbps (max) download, then i will plunged into it. but if i can only get 180kbps (max) like oreoshake, i guess i will have to think twice. but good thing with rapidshare is you don't have to seed.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 16, 2008 at 08:43 AM
sir john,

what is your rapidshare download speed? i am willing to pay the subscription but first i want to know someone who has the same DSL connection speed (1mbps) that i have using rapidshare premium account. if it has vast improvement than my current 120kbps (max) download, then i will plunged into it. but if i can only get 180kbps (max) like oreoshake, i guess i will have to think twice. but good thing with rapidshare is you don't have to seed.

I'm using the PLDT myDSL 384kb/sec plan both for my home and office connections.  With the rapidshare premium account, I ocassionally get a sustained max of 250kbps in my office but at home I only get a sustained max of 180kbps.. Bakit kaya ganito?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 16, 2008 at 08:45 AM
@weng: you will just get more consistent speeds with rapidshare, I get around 200 kB/s on average. I would only recommend rapidshare if you download a lot of rare stuff, otherwise using torrents is ok already. If your ISP is 1mbps then your theoretical max download speed is 120kB/s, so you will probably get that speed whether downloading through rapidshare or a well seeded torrent.

@Oreoshake: Are you using a router at home?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 16, 2008 at 08:56 AM
@Oreoshake: Are you using a router at home?

I'm not using a router at home.  Only 1 computer is using the internet connection..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: demmet on Sep 16, 2008 at 09:22 AM
PC+3 laptop on wifi...my current set up at home.

still get  an average of 700 to 1200mbps.

im using gigabit lan and gigabit router...

maybe thats the reason im getting that bandwith. ;D ;D ;D ;D


(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/sempot_2008/speedrs.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Sep 16, 2008 at 09:36 AM
I'm using the PLDT myDSL 384kb/sec plan both for my home and office connections.  With the rapidshare premium account, I ocassionally get a sustained max of 250kbps in my office but at home I only get a sustained max of 180kbps.. Bakit kaya ganito?

ok, hope i will get 2.5x of your 250kbps speed when using a 1mbps dsl with rapidshare's prem acct.

@john5479: does the router affect the internet speed? i am using a speedtouch modem/router/wifi, a cheap all in one unit. it is hooked up to 2 pc, 1 popcorn and 1 eee pc using wifi. my max download speed using bittorrent was tested using the eee pc alone connected via LAN. does using an expensive router such as linksys will give more speed?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 16, 2008 at 09:55 AM
Not exactly, just note that using two or more connections with one internet connection divides the bandwidth available i.e. I get a faster download speed if My pc is the only one accessing the internet. Getting a better router just manages network traffic better but won't necessarily increase the speed.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Sep 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM
ok, i always download mkv using bittorrent with my eee pc1000 and leave it overnight. before, i tried the popcorn but the download speed is very slow. IMO the eee pc eats less power (due to faster DL) than the popcorn when downloading an mkv.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 16, 2008 at 10:31 AM
The EEE pc is ideal for that because of its low power consumption, plus you can tweak it so its optimized for downloading.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM
hello mga sir i also have the same set up as sir ninjababez hirap sya pag mga 1080p mkv ang naka salang
any advice how to maximize my htpc setup currently using the vga to vga connection mas prefer ko to kasi ang pangit pag HDMI gamit ko text really unreadable tapos ung video from hdmi connection not as flawless compared pag sa vga im using windows XP
sir ninjababez help naman sir   


if its exactly the same .. maybe there is something in the background that might be causing it to slow down ..
you can try and startup your computer and leave it for a while until the startup items are already up ..
now check the performance .. observe  for 10 minutes see if its running at 30% - 100% (if it is constant at that speed without you doing anything), then you might want to try and perform a cleanboot (disable all startup items), then check if it yields better result ..
btw its advisable to reformat your HDD and reinstall windows if you have a new motherboard .. ;)


http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=75472.60;topicseen
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Sep 16, 2008 at 01:11 PM
The EEE pc is ideal for that because of its low power consumption, plus you can tweak it so its optimized for downloading.

that's right, i think it consumes the same or less power than the popcorn as the eee pc power brick is smaller than the popcorn.

i lost interest in downloading using the popcorn due to slow speed. but i have now an alternative means using the eee pc. i have not even tried port forwarding coz i don't know how to do it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2008 at 01:32 PM
that's right, i think it consumes the same or less power than the popcorn as the eee pc power brick is smaller than the popcorn.

i lost interest in downloading using the popcorn due to slow speed. but i have now an alternative means using the eee pc. i have not even tried port forwarding coz i don't know how to do it.

http://portforward.com/help/pfprogression.htm

you can pm mhark13 of www.tipidpc.com, im sure he can help you setup your router  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Sep 16, 2008 at 01:37 PM
http://portforward.com/help/pfprogression.htm

you can pm mhark13 of www.tipidpc.com, im sure he can help you setup your router  ;)


thanks ma'am. i tried reading the instructions before but was tired after knowing that it was a long read ;D i'll check with mhark13 later
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 16, 2008 at 03:04 PM
It just looks complicated initially, but once you get the hang of it you just need to know what ports you need to open and just input that in the corresponding tab in your router setup page. www.portforward.com actually shows how to setup port forwarding for your router model.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: leomar on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:14 PM
The EEE pc is ideal for that because of its low power consumption, plus you can tweak it so its optimized for downloading.

power consumption is just around 20-40 watts  :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: raptor on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Sirs,

Here's the ideal wireless keyboard and mouse combination for the living room.  It uses bluetooth and has a range of 30ft. (14m+).

(http://www.logitech.com/repository/620/jpg/5824.1.0.jpg)

(http://www.logitech.com/repository/620/jpg/5818.1.0.jpg)

Logitech diNovo Mini
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Wow panalo yan. Parang malaking remote control lang...
Meron na ba yan dito. Available na sa local pc store?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: raptor on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Wow panalo yan. Parang malaking remote control lang...
Meron na ba yan dito. Available na sa local pc store?


available pala sa villman to ....there are also some sellers in tipidpc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 17, 2008 at 05:48 AM
(http://www.logitech.com/repository/620/jpg/5818.1.0.jpg)

I remember seeing this in V-mall the other day and inquired about it.  Costs something like P6+++.   :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 17, 2008 at 06:11 AM
(http://www.logitech.com/repository/620/jpg/5818.1.0.jpg)

I remember seeing this in V-mall the other day and inquired about it.  Costs something like P6+++.   :o
i was hoping sub 3k ..  :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 17, 2008 at 07:51 AM
Dinovo Mini looks prety cool and madaling ibato (katabi) sa bed but is good only for those who like to type using PDAs or cellphones which is not my cup of tea.  Full-sized keyboard is still the fastest and the most comfy, and for nearly the same price as a Dinovo Mini, you get premium line bluetooth mouse/keyboard combo from Logitech or Microsoft.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 17, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Dinovo Mini looks prety cool and madaling ibato (katabi) sa bed but is good only for those who like to type using PDAs or cellphones which is not my cup of tea.  Full-sized keyboard is still the fastest and the most comfy, and for nearly the same price as a Dinovo Mini, you get premium line bluetooth mouse/keyboard combo from Logitech or Microsoft.

Are there any other options locally for a wireless keyboard with a mouse or trackball embedded in the keyboard already such as these...

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41S3vhN218L._SS500_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31X5K7C4PTL._SS500_.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 17, 2008 at 08:34 AM
uy i like the 2nd pic  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Weng! on Sep 17, 2008 at 09:10 AM
uy i like the 2nd pic  :)

mukhang laptop na tinanggalan ng screen ;D

magkano kaya ganito locally?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Sep 17, 2008 at 09:29 AM
(http://www.btc.com.tw/product/key9019urf.jpg)

got this last year, binenta lang ng fellow tpc'er.. antagal ko rin naghanap ng ganitong style ng keyboard..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Sinong may dual layer BD burner?   Somebody just posted a 43+GB 1080p VC-1 DTS-HD MA 5.1 Iron Man. 

Bili nalang ng original BD ne.    ;D ;D;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jay_26 on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Why not go for this:

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/j_mortiz/DinovoEdge3.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/j_mortiz/DinovoEdge4.jpg)

Dinovo Edge. Hayz hanggang pangarap ka na lang ba???  :'(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM
how much is that jay?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Dinovo Edge.   Now that's what were talking about.  Cool, sleek, eye-candy, just the right size, just the right feel.  That keyboard is a finger magnet.   Bagay na bagay sa living room, sa family room, sa bedroom, pati kay Inday's room.   Takaw nakaw sa scammer.    I cant help but stroke the display units in Tokyo everytime I pass by the keyboard section.  Sa dami ng keyboards on display side by side, this is the one you'd like to touch.  It's really really NICE. 

But then I'd rather buy 2x1TB hard drives than one Dinovo Edge.  $200 din kase. Well, kanya kanya lang priority yan.   ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jay_26 on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:34 PM
how much is that jay?

8K dito bro pero lam ko sa states mas mura. Actually dati ko pa gusto bilhin to kaso nanghihinayang ko for a keyboard. Kunga bumaba to hangang 5K bibili ako agad  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:58 PM
(http://www.btc.com.tw/product/key9019urf.jpg)

got this last year, binenta lang ng fellow tpc'er.. antagal ko rin naghanap ng ganitong style ng keyboard..


I have this keyboard.  BTC keyboard sold at Octagon Computers at the malls.  I think I bought it for less than 2k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Sep 17, 2008 at 02:48 PM

I have this keyboard.  BTC keyboard sold at Octagon Computers at the malls.  I think I bought it for less than 2k

the good thing i like about this keyboard is kahit nakatayo ka pede mo gamitin yung mouse nya.. :)
tsaka super tibay, ilang beses na binagsak ng aking 1.5yrs old son, pero buo pa rin.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: raptor on Sep 17, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Sirs,

The Logitech keyboards are both available at Villman, here's the link - http://www.villman.com/Category/Keyboards.  Logitech diNovo Mini at PhP 6,990 (pwedeng 6-months 0% interest), diNovo Edge at PhP 9,480 (pwedeng 12-month 0% interest).

Personally I prefer the diNovo Edge for the PC in my room, and the diNovo Mini for the HTPC in the living room that is connected to the large plasma tv.  I wouldn't mind typing like in a PDA for the living room HTPC, since I wouldn't be typing that much and using the plasma tv for the regular computer applications - mostly selecting which media to play and probably renaming media files lang ang main function.  It would be a hassle to have a large keyboard in the living room, especially if you have children running around the living room ... and especially kung meron kayong katulad sa mga pamangkin ko na 2-4 years old na sobrang kukulit, buti at puro cute naman  ;D ...at least yung Mini pwede ko itago pag nandoon sila  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gunblade977 on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:11 PM
ganda nga ng Dinovo edge!

just a quick question lang guys if na try nyo na.
Pede naman mag work yung mga wireless KB in parallel sa ordinary KB right? I mean... for movie viewing, I would use the wireless KB(for fast FF, REW) and for normal PC use, I would still be using those full sized wired keyboards(of course not simultaneous use but rather simultaneous connection).  I tried it with a wireless mouse and a USB Mouse and it works so I would assume same principle sa keyboard? Pa confirm na lang sana kung may naka-try na.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:24 PM
ganda nga ng Dinovo edge!

just a quick question lang guys if na try nyo na.
Pede naman mag work yung mga wireless KB in parallel sa ordinary KB right? I mean... for movie viewing, I would use the wireless KB(for fast FF, REW) and for normal PC use, I would still be using those full sized wired keyboards(of course not simultaneous use but rather simultaneous connection).  I tried it with a wireless mouse and a USB Mouse and it works so I would assume same principle sa keyboard? Pa confirm na lang sana kung may naka-try na.

Puiding puidi.  I have connected 2 keyboards and 2 mouse(s) simultaneous many times already.  Pag nang-aasar anak ko, she would type simultaneously as I do.



Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gunblade977 on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:35 PM
Puiding puidi.  I have connected 2 keyboards and 2 mouse(s) simultaneous many times already.  Pag nang-aasar anak ko, she would type simultaneously as I do.


Hehehe, ayos! thanks sa info. Ako naman habang nag susurf si mrs, kinokontrol ko yung cursor via bluetooth phone  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:59 PM
Anybody tried the air mouse? 

(http://www.logitech.com/repository/172/jpg/1490.1.0.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 17, 2008 at 04:43 PM
Ang daming lumalabas na magandang gadget dito ah.

Anybody tried the air mouse? 

(http://www.logitech.com/repository/172/jpg/1490.1.0.jpg)

That is a very cool mouse.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 17, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Sa tipidpc meron story ng mama na umaangal daw sa internet cafe because low tech daw yung mouse ng cafe as it wouldnt work in air.   ;D  Sabi nung nag-kwento na medyo payabang din - eh engot naman pala daw yung mamang yon dahil ala namang mouse na mag-work in air.  Di nalang ako sumagot dahil natawa ako both sides.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 17, 2008 at 05:03 PM
BTW, yung Panasonic plasma ba sa Pilipins may built-in receiver for wireless security camera?   So while you're watching your favorite show on the Plasma or simply computing, you can have a small window on the corner of the screen to monitor kung sinong nasa gate...or kung anong ginagawa ni Mister or ni Mrs sa kabilang kwarto... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: danrd on Sep 17, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Sa tipidpc meron story ng mama na umaangal daw sa internet cafe because low tech daw yung mouse ng cafe as it wouldnt work in air.   ;D  Sabi nung nag-kwento na medyo payabang din - eh engot naman pala daw yung mamang yon dahil ala namang mouse na mag-work in air.  Di nalang ako sumagot dahil natawa ako both sides.   ;D ;D ;D

Kow ka-daming ganyan dito sa pdvd.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: iiinas on Sep 17, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Anybody tried the air mouse? 

(http://www.logitech.com/repository/172/jpg/1490.1.0.jpg)

meron na ba yan dito doc oreo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 17, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Yup meron na!  Saw it sa Datacore at sa V-mall. Mahal lang nga.  :P 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:37 PM
meron na ba yan dito doc oreo?

saw it in Amazon.. its Logitech Air Mouse.. Ok sya kasi puwede na rin sya presenter.. but i dont have any experience first hand..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2008 at 06:28 AM
saw it in Amazon.. its Logitech Air Mouse.. Ok sya kasi puwede na rin sya presenter.. but i dont have any experience first hand..
logitech has a discontinued multimedia remote mouse .. but the range is just 6ft .. good enough for me though .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 18, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Has anyone converted their htpc for use as a music server? :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Sep 18, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Has anyone converted their htpc for use as a music server? :)

I'm planning to do that but what decent sound card should I use?  I'm currently using my mobo's (GA-MA78GM-S2H) on-board sound card and I'm planning to replace it with Auzen X-PLOSION 7.1 because I can't hear the difference between flac and mp3.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: milken on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:46 PM
Auzentech Prelude 7.1 is better than X-Plosion.  But if you can wait, Auzentech Home Theater 7.1 1.3 HDMI card will be a killer.  Here's the specs:

Audio Interface Creative PCI Express X-Fi audio processor
HDMI Inteface Silicon Image HDMI 1.3 chipset
PC Interface PCI Express 1.1 Compliant Interface
Supported audio resolution 16/24-bit / up to 192kHz (Stereo playback)
and sampling rate 16/24-bit / up to 96.0khz (Multi channel playback)
16/24-bit / up to 96kHz (Recording)
OS Supports Microsoft® Windows Vista™ or Windows XP
Audio
Level 3.0Vrms, +12.0dBu max, deviation +/- 0.1dB
Dynamic Range 114.0 dB A-weighted (1kHz @ -60dBFS, 24-bit/48kHz) for Analog outputs
102.0 dB A-weighted (1kHz @ -60dBFS, 24-bit/48kHz) for Analog inputs
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise 0.001% A-weighted (@ -3dBFS) for Analog outputs
0.003% A-weighted (@ -3dBFS) for Analog inputs
Frequency Response 10Hz to 22kHz, +/- 0.02 dB @ 48kHz
10Hz to 42kHz, +/- 0.02 dB @ 96kHz
10Hz to 94kHz, +/- 3dB @ 192kHz, Stereo
Impedance Headphone load impedance 16Ω~ 600Ω
Line output impedance 330Ω
Line/Aux input impedance 10KΩ
Microphone Supports Stereo and Balanced Mode
Connectivity
HDMI 1 x HDMI Type A output connector
1 x HDMI Type A input connector
1 x Internal Video connection
Analog Multi I/O Cable 4 x 1/8" Stereo mini phone jack for Line outputs
(D-SUB) 1 x 1/8" TRS mini phone jack for MIC input
1 x 1/8" Stereo mini phone jack for Line input
Headphone 1 x 1/8" Stereo mini Phone jack for Headphone output
Front Audio1 x 10-pin (5x2) Header with Intel HD Audio Compatible
Digital I/O 1 x RCA/TOSLINK Combo jack for S/PDIF transmission
1 x 2-pin S/PDIF input connector
Extension40-pin Extension Header (for certain Creative product extension)
HDMI
HDMI HDMI 1.3, HDCP1.1
VIDEO- Supports deep color 30/36-bit color depth
- Resolutions up to 1080p @ 60Hz or 720p/1080i @ 120Hz
- Color space conversion between RGB, YCbCr 4:4:4 and 4:2:2
- CEA-861D video resolutions
- Standard PC resolutions
AUDIO- Supports IEC60958 2-channel PCM or IEC61937 compressed audio
(Dolby® Digital, DTS, etc.)
- Supports 8 channels, 192 kHz PCM or High bit rate audio
(Dolby® Digital Plus, Dolby® Digital TrueHD, DTS-HD)

http://www.auzentech.com/site/company/press.php (http://www.auzentech.com/site/company/press.php)

Based on the articles I read, you couldn't hear much difference between flac and quality encoded mp3s unless you have a high end pair of speakers and power amps.

As an alternative, you may want to consider Logitech Transporter or Logitech Squeezebox+Musical Fidelity external DACs.  Links:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/3163&cl=us,en (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/3163&cl=us,en)
http://www.stereophile.com/mediaservers/207slim/ (http://www.stereophile.com/mediaservers/207slim/)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:52 PM
I actually use an external self powered soundcard and use the digital out to an external dac.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mojako on Sep 18, 2008 at 07:04 PM
john,
long time ah :)

anong external soundcard and DAC gamit mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 18, 2008 at 08:46 PM
@mojako musta?

Im using an rme fireface800 as my soundcard and use its digital out to an emm labs dcc2. Pretty Expensive :-[ but I like the results ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: mojako on Sep 19, 2008 at 04:27 AM
bro bigatin yan Audio PC setup ah!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RXV on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Guys, meron ba kayong nakita na USB extension cord na umaabot ng 10-15 meters?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: voj on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:56 PM
Guys, meron ba kayong nakita na USB extension cord na umaabot ng 10-15 meters?


yes. but I bought mine online at svc.com
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Jett on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:58 AM

I have this keyboard.  BTC keyboard sold at Octagon Computers at the malls.  I think I bought it for less than 2k

I've checked a couple of Octagon stores (Megamall, Galleria) ... it looks like they no longer carry this.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: joey on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:19 AM
san kaya ako makakabili ng AMD Socket 939 Athlon64/Athlon64 FX/Athlon64 X2/ Processors yung mga 3800+ or mas mataas pa? upgrade ko sana yung cpu ko. eto lang kasi supported niya Processors.(A8N-SLI Deluxe)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/joey1355/IMG_2871.jpg)

just got a new 8600Gt Video card. Bumigay na yung old card ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 24, 2008 at 11:44 AM
san kaya ako makakabili ng AMD Socket 939 Athlon64/Athlon64 FX/Athlon64 X2/ Processors yung mga 3800+ or mas mataas pa? upgrade ko sana yung cpu ko. eto lang kasi supported niya Processors.(A8N-SLI Deluxe)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/joey1355/IMG_2871.jpg)

just got a new 8600Gt Video card. Bumigay na yung old card ko.

it would be very expensive but i know someone who sells opteron processors (s939) .. sana may stock pa sya  ;)
pm me for details ..
but my advise is .. get a new mobo, ram and processor cause it would be cheaper in time  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: milken on Sep 24, 2008 at 03:39 PM
@mojako musta?

Im using an rme fireface800 as my soundcard and use its digital out to an emm labs dcc2. Pretty Expensive :-[ but I like the results ;D

@john5479, do you have a dedicated cd player?  how do you compare the sounds from your soundcard + external DAC vs. CD player?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:54 PM
I used to have one but sold it and opted to store my music on a hardisk. I like my current setup better but had to do a lot of tweaking to get it to sound better than my cd player. My previous cd player was a rega apollo, soundwise my current setup sounds balanced, bass is just right, not bloated.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: milken on Sep 24, 2008 at 10:50 PM
I've been considering either Rotel RCD-1072 ($700) or Rega Apollo ($1,200) as a dedicated CD player but like the flexibility and manageability of HTPC as a music server.  However, the sound quality output of a HTPC playing FLAC or mp3 would not rival that of a dedicated CD player in terms of imaging and soundstage. 

So in search of a device that could enhance music playback in HTPC, I came across these external DACs: 
- Benchmark DAC1 http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/108bench/index.html (http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/108bench/index.html) $1,275; and
- Musical Fidelity X-DAC V8 http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/208mfx/ (http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/208mfx/) $1,500. 

Both have usb input for connecting to htpc.  If my understanding is correct, these products may dispense with a sound card since the input is via usb and not via optical or coaxial input found in sound cards.  Any thoughts about these external DACs? or could you recommend any better bang-for-the-buck DACs?
Title: Gyration Air Music Remote
Post by: uvax on Sep 25, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Just wanted to share something I found while looking around the web:

http://www.gyration.com/?l=en#productDetail (http://www.gyration.com/?l=en#productDetail)

Demo:

http://www.gyration.com/air_remote_demo.html (http://www.gyration.com/air_remote_demo.html)

Should be perfect for a Home Theater setup with an HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 25, 2008 at 11:28 AM
I've been considering either Rotel RCD-1072 ($700) or Rega Apollo ($1,200) as a dedicated CD player but like the flexibility and manageability of HTPC as a music server.  However, the sound quality output of a HTPC playing FLAC or mp3 would not rival that of a dedicated CD player in terms of imaging and soundstage. 

So in search of a device that could enhance music playback in HTPC, I came across these external DACs: 
- Benchmark DAC1 http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/108bench/index.html (http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/108bench/index.html) $1,275; and
- Musical Fidelity X-DAC V8 http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/208mfx/ (http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/208mfx/) $1,500. 

Both have usb input for connecting to htpc.  If my understanding is correct, these products may dispense with a sound card since the input is via usb and not via optical or coaxial input found in sound cards.  Any thoughts about these external DACs? or could you recommend any better bang-for-the-buck DACs?

You can try the Benchmark dac1, for a simpler setup and stick to FLAC and use foobar as your music player.

You will have to tweak your pc if you want it to sound its best.For some ideas try browsing the pc audio thread at audioasylum.com.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: milken on Sep 26, 2008 at 04:19 PM
Thanks for the inputs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Sep 26, 2008 at 07:43 PM
I just bought an Acer Aspire X3200 Desktop PC at 16.8T, Small Form Factor Casing, with HDMI & SPDIF out built-in already. check out the specs at google.

I installed K-Lite Codec. and connect it to my 40" lcd tv. And presto, instant HTPC.

How's the performance so far ? Can this unit play games without problems and also mkv files without hitches? This is AMD CPU powered right?

Thanks in advance!

-JackRyan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Sep 26, 2008 at 07:44 PM
found this ad at tipidpc
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2108008 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2108008)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/oa3kn4.jpg)

how much kaya aabutin kung upgrade to 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD and wireless keyboar/mouse.

Is this powerful enough to help me play the newer PC game titles? Also, would this play mkv files flawlessly with its built-in HDMI port able to do 1080p?

Thanks,
JackRyan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Sep 26, 2008 at 10:13 PM
It should play mkv files without a hitch, for gaming you need to upgrade your video card if you'll play crysis :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Sep 27, 2008 at 03:40 PM
It should play mkv files without a hitch, for gaming you need to upgrade your video card if you'll play crysis :)

thanks... got one na :-)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: otepsy on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:19 AM
thanks... got one na :-)

sir review naman using mkv rips. video and audio quality, what connection did you use? thanks...
i'm eyeing for this one.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: raptor on Oct 02, 2008 at 03:26 PM
Is this powerful enough to help me play the newer PC game titles? Also, would this play mkv files flawlessly with its built-in HDMI port able to do 1080p?

Thanks,
JackRyan

In addition to the earlier comment, you also need to upgrade the Vista Home Basic to Home Premium if you're planning to stream video from other PC's.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on Oct 04, 2008 at 10:45 PM
My HTPC/Gaming Rig

Processor:  Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 ghz
MOBO:  Asus P5Q P45
RAM:  4gb DDR2-1066 Corsair Dominator
Storage:  500gb Seagate sata/640gb Seagate sata
Optical Drive:  Lightscribe 20x dual layer
Video Card:  Palit ATI Radeon HD 4870 1gb
PSU:  Corsair 620HX
Casing:  Gigabyte iSolo
Monitor:  Samsung T220
Keyboard/Mouse:  Logitech LX 310 Laser

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Oct 05, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Nice!!!, that rig could do gaming alright ;D Are you using vista or xp?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: dyerds on Oct 05, 2008 at 02:12 AM
My HTPC/Gaming Rig

Processor:  Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 ghz
MOBO:  Asus P5Q P45
RAM:  4gb DDR2-1066 Corsair Dominator
Storage:  500gb Seagate sata/640gb Seagate sata
Optical Drive:  Lightscribe 20x dual layer
Video Card:  Palit ATI Radeon HD 4870 1gb
PSU:  Corsair 620HX
Casing:  Gigabyte iSolo
Monitor:  Samsung T220
Keyboard/Mouse:  Logitech LX 310 Laser

Sir Munskie parang galit na galit yung setup nyo ah.  ;D Ano po ba mga nilalaro nyo sa PC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: keema on Oct 05, 2008 at 04:47 AM
pasingit lng po..may question po ako..dapat po ba sa laptop naka specify kung yung headphone out ay pwedeng gawing din spdif out? thanks...:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Munskie on Oct 05, 2008 at 05:37 AM
Sir Munskie parang galit na galit yung setup nyo ah.  ;D Ano po ba mga nilalaro nyo sa PC?

world in conflict and company of heroes.... ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andre on Oct 05, 2008 at 07:03 AM
It should play mkv files without a hitch, for gaming you need to upgrade your video card if you'll play crysis :)

I have an Acer X3200, I dont think you can upgrade the video card. There's no more space inside.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2008 at 07:10 AM
I have an Acer X3200, I dont think you can upgrade the video card. There's no more space inside.
what is the exact specs of this model? nakakalito kasi when i searced it online . :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 05, 2008 at 08:49 AM
I have an Acer X3200, I dont think you can upgrade the video card. There's no more space inside.

The latest cards are soooooooooooooooooo long.  Unless you have regular-sized case, it is highly doubtful if the long graphics card would fit in.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Oct 05, 2008 at 08:55 AM
Its motherboard supports hybrid sli, but given the size of the chassis and its power supply the choice for a video card is limited :-[
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jackryan on Oct 05, 2008 at 10:02 AM
what is the exact specs of this model? nakakalito kasi when i searced it online . :(

I think it's Acer Aspire X3200
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Oct 05, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I have an Acer X3200, I dont think you can upgrade the video card. There's no more space inside.

NOPE....somebody upgraded his, check out the link; http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=83055.msg847789#msg847789 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=83055.msg847789#msg847789)

Here's the quote:
Quote
My niece added a 8400 GS and it improved the gaming performance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2008 at 12:40 PM
its not gonna yield good results in gaming, better but not good enough.  :)
id rather get a 5k ati 4850 or any card ranging from 10k - 15k  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: thesaint on Oct 05, 2008 at 02:26 PM
Possible na ma-upgrade yung video card but sila ang mag upupgrade (acer).
Nag tanaong na kasi ako dati eh! yung model ay LC310-C43.
Bali yung video card ay galing sa kanila. Parang sa Dell din. Optional yung upgade
ng video card...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: andre on Oct 05, 2008 at 06:21 PM
Could somebody suggest a good video card for the Acer X3200?
The video card must be small enough to fit inside, Powerful enough for today's demanding games.
The Acer X3200 Power Supply is only 200 watts (if Im not mistaken).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: john5479 on Oct 05, 2008 at 07:12 PM
The max you can use is an geforce 8400, i have seen some with a low profile. I saw a model that is passively cooled and given the power supply anything more powerful than this (assuming it fits) wont work.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 05, 2008 at 09:33 PM
The max you can use is an geforce 8400, i have seen some with a low profile. I saw a model that is passively cooled and given the power supply anything more powerful than this (assuming it fits) wont work.

Low profile lang ba kakasya?

Kung walang problema sa height and kung meron empty space next to the graphics card, find the 8600GTS specially re-designed by Leadtek.  It's quite short but the fan is dual-slot fat.  I sold 2 of this sa TipicPC last June and August lang.  Kung walang space on the side, find single-slot fan 8600 GT.

Pero kung low profile lang talaga pede, I dont know what's the best card you can insert.




Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: brightfame on Oct 06, 2008 at 02:39 PM
guys pa suggest naman ng ok na av receiver to connect to auzen xplosion card.  don't need hdmi since i will connect from video card to lcd tv.  just need something that will work well with my sound card and amplify and sound good enough to fill a 3m x 5m bedroom.  i do about 60% movies, 30% gaming 10% music. also i would like to keep both arms and legs if possible. thanks!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Oct 06, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Any Entry level amp will do, as long as you connect via Optical or Coaxial Digital. Just configure it on your desktop audio out.

The cheapest entry level amp that has a Dolby Digital and DTS capabilities ranges from 9K-13K, and that is brand new, or you can check out the market place thread for amplifiers if a used amplifier is OK with you.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: brightfame on Oct 06, 2008 at 05:53 PM
Thanks! any ideas where to get the best prices for brand new?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 07, 2008 at 05:54 AM
Can the HTPC solely replace the DVD player in terms of playability?  What brand of DVDRom is the best in terms of playability?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gb on Oct 07, 2008 at 07:19 AM
LITEON
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: jay_26 on Oct 07, 2008 at 08:18 AM
Can the HTPC solely replace the DVD player in terms of playability?  What brand of DVDRom is the best in terms of playability?

Pioneer bro, medyo may kamahalan lang ng konti  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 07, 2008 at 08:44 AM
Can the HTPC solely replace the DVD player in terms of playability?  What brand of DVDRom is the best in terms of playability?

The PC is the original upscaling DVD player.   Maganda rin NEC or Matsucrapa brands.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: RXV on Oct 07, 2008 at 09:03 AM
LITEON

I recommend more on LG when it comes to DVD-writers. Just browse through tipidpc to see feedbacks of different users.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Alfie on Oct 07, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Can the HTPC solely replace the DVD player in terms of playability?  What brand of DVDRom is the best in terms of playability?

My friend, why use the optical drive,when it's better to save the files and use the HDD.

It'll only take 4 minutes to decrypt and save the vob files to your HDD,whereas a movie viewed will utilized the lens for the whole running time.

Once decrypted, there's no region lock,and it's less power consumming which will prolong lens life.

Use the Optical drive only for burning or the DVDROM for original games that requires you to place the disc for authenticity while playing.

PowerDVD 8 plays your VOB files without hiccups.

Try it and judge for yourself.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: gb on Oct 07, 2008 at 08:10 PM
OR YOU CAN TRY...
LITEON HD-A740GX
(http://www.liteonit.com/global/images/products/DC/HD_A740GX/main_hd_a740gx_b.jpg)

Recording Features  Recordable Media
 DVD-R/ DVD-RW/ DVD+R/ DVD+RW/ DVD+R DL/ HDD 
HDD 160GB
One-Touch Recording (OTR)
 Yes
Time Shift
 Yes
Record and Play
 Yes
Recording Mode  DVD (4.7GB)
 HQ (1 Hour)
SP (2 Hours)
LP (3 Hours) 
EP (4 Hours) 
SLP (6 Hours)
Just Fit (Timer Recording Only)
DVD+R DL (8.5GB)
 HQ (114 Minutes)
SP (224 Minutes)
LP (332 Minutes) 
EP (443 Minutes) 
SLP (665 Minutes)
Just Fit (Timer Recording Only) 
HDD HQ (34 Hours)
SP (68 Hours)
LP (101 Hours) 
EP (135 Hours) 
SLP (203 Hours)
Just Fit (Timer Recording Only) 
Timer Recording  Number of Timer Programs
 32
ShowView®/VIDEO Plus+® Timer Programming System
 Yes
Playback Features  Playable Media
 HDD Yes
DVD-R/-RW  Yes 
DVD+R/+RW  Yes 
DVD-ROM  Yes 
CD-R/-RW  Yes 
CD-ROM Yes 
Supported Formats
 DVD-Video Yes
DVD+VR Yes 
SVCD Yes 
VCD Yes 
Audio CD  Yes 
JPEG/BMP Yes 
MP3 Yes 
WMA/WAV Yes 
MPEG-4 (AVI)  Yes
DivX® VOD  Yes
MPG/DAT/VOB Yes 
Editing Features  Title Editing
 Rename/Erase/Protect/Split/Merge
Chapter Editing  Insert Chapter Mark/Remove Chapter Mark/Hide Chapter/Show Chapter
Copying Features  HDD to Disc, Disc to HDD
Other Features  Easy Guider™
 Yes
Contents Menu  Yes
Channel Editor
 Move/Insert/Delete/Rename
DV Control
 Yes
Slideshow (Picture with Music)
 Yes
Disc Tools
 Erase / Finalize / Clean up HDD / Defragment HDD 
Tuner PAL
Connections Front Panel
 Composite Audio/Video Input  x 1 
S-Video Input x 1 
DV Link Input x 1 
Rear Panel
 SCART Input x 1 
SCART Output x 1 
Component Video Input x 1 (Y/Pb/Pr) 
Composite Audio/Video Output x 1 
Digital Audio Output Optical x 1, Coaxial x 1
RF Input/Output Input x 1, Output x 1
Power Supply  AC 100-240V (50/60Hz)
Power Consumption Approx. 50W
Dimensions (W/H/D) 430 x 66 x 315 (mm)
Weight (kg)  Approx. 4.5Kg


Notes:

Specifications and design are subject to change without prior notice.
ShowView® is a registered trademark of Gemstar Development Corporation.
VIDEO Plus+® is a registered trademark of Gemstar Development Corporation.
Easy Guider™ is a trademark of Lite-On IT Corp.
Dolby and the double-D symbol are registered trademarks of Dolby Laboratories.
DivX, DivX Certified, and associated logos are trademarks of DivX Inc. and are used under license.
The DV Link feature is applicable to compatible DVs only.
It is not possible to copy a tape or disc with copy-protected signal.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: Philander on Oct 07, 2008 at 08:15 PM
pasingit lng po..may question po ako..dapat po ba sa laptop naka specify kung yung headphone out ay pwedeng gawing din spdif out? thanks...:)

Yes, you just need to set the audio out settings in the audio properties and you must have the proper digital cable.

Since most laptops are using the 3.5mm audio port for both analog stereo and optical digital out, you need an optical cable and a 3.5mm converter like this:

(http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2003/605/optical-cable-1.jpg)

(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/705/26711bw7.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC Setup
Post by: firewired on Oct 07, 2008 at 08:29 PM
This is a 62 page thread now which is begging to be retired. There's an entire board/subforum for HTPCs now so I'm encouraging members to start new threads with more topic-specific discussions.

Thanks.