Author Topic: CD Players surplus (Read 411887 times)

wanderlust · « **Reply #810 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 10:59 AM »

sir jo,

how will i learn kung fu?

hehehe.

good news yan sir jo ah, pila nako sa 502 na coming soon from sandawa, ha!

wanderlust · « **Reply #811 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 11:08 AM »

master hans,

CONGRATS! 1072 pala point of compatison natin ha, tindi!!!! i have to be there when your pioneer goes one on one with the 1072, pro the thought alone that a surplus cdp could hold its ground against a high end, much much expensive cdp panalo na, makes me wanna get myself one din.

H a n $ · « **Reply #812 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 11:35 AM »

Wanderlust,

I choose to AB my pioneer with higher models para mas madali ma notice yun FLAWS compare to merits..

initial AB yun separation iba..

kimpao · « **Reply #813 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 11:43 AM »

Quote from: wanderlust on Aug 24, 2004 at 11:08 AM

makes me wanna get myself one din.

alin sir? 1072 ba kukunin natin. Ahihihihihihihihihi

dogfish po tayo, attorney!!!!!

rony · « **Reply #814 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 01:03 PM »

Quote from: hans adriane on Aug 24, 2004 at 08:39 AM

Senor Iceman,

Exposure presented its music rounder and lively, in pinpoint imaging wide soundstage you'll notice the spacing between singer & instruments is very good ( reminded me of Contodo's cd buffer ) timing is good even long hours, CD text but my burned cd usually don't have text hehehe... . for my pioneer, its on the warm side detail is provided with right volume and balance good vocals, separation ok but like the Exposure more.... maybe due to the channels according to Masta JOJOD shared same Opamp kaya di ganun kalayo separation ng instrument and singer.. or pwede break in konti

galing galing ng review parang mga nababasa ko sa magasin. hans try mo rin pus pul pakinggan mo tapos sabihin mo mga depekto sa sound stock pa yon kaya malabo at walng buhay pa tunog noon.

H a n $ · « **Reply #815 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 01:43 PM »

Rony,

Sure sir will try pagnakuha ko na...

btw text me you address.. thanks

JojoD818 · « **Reply #816 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 04:04 PM »

Quote from: wanderlust on Aug 24, 2004 at 10:59 AM

sir jo,

how will i learn kung fu?

hehehe.

good news yan sir jo ah, pila nako sa 502 na coming soon from sandawa, ha!

good news talaga yan, another challenging project for me.

wanderlust · « **Reply #817 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 04:56 PM »

agree sir hans... aim for the stars agad para there is still the moon to catch you when you missed the target!

sir kim d natin ambisyon yan ngayon, masayadong starry starry yan..... tunog 1072 lang kaya natin sir.... wuhuhuhu.....

kaya nga sir jo as early as now congrats na kita. HEHEHE.

H a n $ · « **Reply #818 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 05:27 PM »

Quote from: wanderlust on Aug 24, 2004 at 04:56 PM

sir kim d natin ambisyon yan ngayon, masayadong starry starry yan..... tunog 1072 lang kaya natin sir.... wuhuhuhu.....

Tama attorney.... tunog high end lang wish ko rin pero NOT to duplicate the rotel/exposure signature sound.. kasi we must consider yun parts and technology ng higher price player kya di pwede yun exact sound.... basta target BETTER sound than orig.. hehehehe

JojoD818 · « **Reply #819 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 07:07 PM »

Ang napansin ko kasi nun kasalukuyan nasa recovery room yan pioneer na yan, nawala yun magaspang na highs. Buti nga at natyambahan ko, kasi sobra ang nerbyos ni hans nun nasa OR pa yun cdp nya. Buti yun hashness lng ang nawala hindi yun tunog. Nakuh poh!

sandawa · « **Reply #820 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 07:15 PM »

Quote from: hans adriane on Aug 24, 2004 at 10:48 AM

Sandawa,
Uy Sony 333ES like its presentation compare to 502ES..IMHO sir.

Depende siguro sa support system at sa user's preference. Kasi yung X333es early '90s na lumabas medyo balanse na ang tunog tapos made at a time when CDRs and audiophile CDs were already available. On the other hand, the 502es mabigat ang tunog, which could be harsh on audiophile CDs, kasi nga nung panahon niya, Japanese amps sounded thin at CD recordings were less impressive. So, 502 I think would work best in systems that are based on less powerful amps - siguro below 100wpc RMS - dahil patatabain niya ang tunog. JojoD's challenge could be to remove the harshness in 502es when playing CDs that have high dynamics. Pero, I checked the innards of the two, di hamak mas maganda ang parts na ginamit sa 502es. At heavy siya, about 10 kgs., and yet 502 is quite slim.

H a n $ · « **Reply #821 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 08:04 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Aug 24, 2004 at 07:15 PM

Depende siguro sa support system at sa user's preference. Kasi yung X333es early '90s na lumabas medyo balanse na ang tunog tapos made at a time when CDRs and audiophile CDs were already available. On the other hand, the 502es mabigat ang tunog, which could be harsh on audiophile CDs, kasi nga nung panahon niya, Japanese amps sounded thin at CD recordings were less impressive. So, 502 I think would work best in systems that are based on less powerful amps - siguro below 100wpc RMS - dahil patatabain niya ang tunog. JojoD's challenge could be to remove the harshness in 502es when playing CDs that have high dynamics. Pero, I checked the innards of the two, di hamak mas maganda ang parts na ginamit sa 502es. At heavy siya, about 10 kgs., and yet 502 is quite slim.

Also notice the full pack parts and layout of 502ES compare to 333ES slim pre heavy sya.. pero sir may impression is baliktad 502es sounded lean to me compare to 333es na fuller.. again pwede din sa system matching.. pero overall maganda both models kasi ES

H a n $ · « **Reply #822 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 08:05 PM »

Quote from: JojoD818 on Aug 24, 2004 at 07:07 PM

Ang napansin ko kasi nun kasalukuyan nasa recovery room yan pioneer na yan, nawala yun magaspang na highs. Buti nga at natyambahan ko, kasi sobra ang nerbyos ni hans nun nasa OR pa yun cdp nya. Buti yun hashness lng ang nawala hindi yun tunog. Nakuh poh!

Nerbyos lang konti baka mahal ang talent fee.. hehehehehe

JojoD818 · « **Reply #823 on:** Aug 24, 2004 at 11:34 PM »

Quote from: hans adriane on Aug 24, 2004 at 08:05 PM

Nerbyos lang konti baka mahal ang talent fee.. hehehehehe

Nge! Akala ko kaya ka nerbyos kasi baka hindi na ulit tumunog eh?

Hahahaha

H a n $ · « **Reply #824 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 11:16 AM »

masta jojoD,

Yan ang malabo... di tutunog?? andiyan naman OnkYo in case..

btw notice some improvement with the highs lumalabas pa..

JojoD818 · « **Reply #825 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 11:33 AM »

Quote from: hans adriane on Aug 25, 2004 at 11:16 AM

masta jojoD,

Yan ang malabo... di tutunog?? andiyan naman OnkYo in case..

btw notice some improvement with the highs lumalabas pa..

Hahahaha! Malabo yan bro! Kng nagkataon malamang na binayaran ko na lang...

hindi mo na makakapiling yun Onkyo! Hahahaha

Fish balls!

JojoD818 · « **Reply #826 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 11:36 AM »

Quote from: hans adriane on Aug 25, 2004 at 11:16 AM

btw notice some improvement with the highs lumalabas pa..

It is the FETs that require long periods of adjustment, so give it more time, sure na mas matutuwa ka pa sa tunog nyan.

Pag lumabas na yun magandang tunog tsaka mo na ihabol yun balance mo.

Nagpapatawa lng, bka nerbyosin ka eh.

H a n $ · « **Reply #827 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 02:43 PM »

Masta jojoD,

Notice some extra detail that go behind my ears na don't know if its coming from the music or i'm just thinking something hehehehehe.. will do some listen ulit..

JojoD818 · « **Reply #828 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 06:16 PM »

Yun din Onkyo ko ganyan lalu na pag bago pa yun mga opamps, medyo wala sa hulog yun highs pero pag nabigyan na ng ilan araw lumalabas na din. Ang pinakamahirap na i-breakin is yun mga caps na ina-upgrade ko, just to be sure na very low impedance na ang total ESR ko so less ripple sa psu. Syempre, the less ripple the better.

H a n $ · « **Reply #829 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 09:02 PM »

Masta JOJOD,

Done some room tweaking hehehe lagay ako curtain back of my rack para contain konti highs.. galing with a little experiment clearer and better soundstage ..partida galing sa extra curtain window namin hehehe kaya pandak konti..

weekend off to divisoria..

iceman90a · « **Reply #830 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 09:42 PM »

matutuwa mga misis natin nyan - pinapaganda natin yung bahay

ako indoor plants naman hinahanap

H a n $ · « **Reply #831 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 09:54 PM »

Quote from: iceman90a on Aug 25, 2004 at 09:42 PM

matutuwa mga misis natin nyan - pinapaganda natin yung bahay ako indoor plants naman hinahanap

Pre actually na TATAWA kasi kung ano ano ginagawa natin.. btw natawa sya coz pink yun ginamit ko.. hehehe eh wala ibang color eh so what basta da best yun improvement..

j_albert22 · « **Reply #832 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 10:39 PM »

Quote from: hans adriane on Aug 25, 2004 at 09:54 PM

Pre actually na TATAWA kasi kung ano ano ginagawa natin.. btw natawa sya coz pink yun ginamit ko.. hehehe eh wala ibang color eh so what basta da best yun improvement..

yan ganyan maging mabait sa misis para walang masabi kaya ka IDOL D2 sa PINOY e......................

JojoD818 · « **Reply #833 on:** Aug 25, 2004 at 10:59 PM »

Quote from: j_albert22 on Aug 25, 2004 at 10:39 PM

yan ganyan maging mabait sa misis para walang masabi kaya ka IDOL D2 sa PINOY e......................

sir you have PM.

Safety First, Good Luck 007

j_albert22 · « **Reply #834 on:** Aug 26, 2004 at 12:31 AM »

Quote from: JojoD818 on Aug 25, 2004 at 10:59 PM

sir you have PM.

Safety First, Good Luck 007

got ur PM thank master jojo

JojoD818 · « **Reply #835 on:** Aug 26, 2004 at 01:05 AM »

No problem, I hope you find what your looking for.

Ahhhrrgg, grabe, dami trabaho! Sakit ulo ko! (i.e. headache - just to be clear

)

j_albert22 · « **Reply #836 on:** Aug 26, 2004 at 03:38 AM »

Quote from: JojoD818 on Aug 26, 2004 at 01:05 AM

No problem, I hope you find what your looking for.

Ahhhrrgg, grabe, dami trabaho! Sakit ulo ko! (i.e. headache - just to be clear )

kaya mo yan one at a time lang ang tanggap para di matambakan

pwede bang mag part time sa iyo

pamasahe lang pwede na

JojoD818 · « **Reply #837 on:** Aug 26, 2004 at 08:29 AM »

Quote from: j_albert22 on Aug 26, 2004 at 03:38 AM

kaya mo yan one at a time lang ang tanggap para di matambakan pwede bang mag part time sa iyo pamasahe lang pwede na

thanks pre, kaya ko na ito... just needed a little diversion.

H a n $ · « **Reply #838 on:** Aug 26, 2004 at 08:54 AM »

Masta JOJOD,

Headache ba??? just drink Togmolodon.. and say goodbye to your headache!!

fish fish ulam yesterday and this morning..

iceman90a · « **Reply #839 on:** Aug 26, 2004 at 11:00 AM »

Quote from: JojoD818 on Aug 26, 2004 at 08:29 AM

thanks pre, kaya ko na ito... just needed a little diversion.

para malibang ka - silay muna kay Jennifer Garner sandali...