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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #600 on: Jun 07, 2012 at 08:53 PM »
Jesus and the Papacy are not related, contrary to popular belief.

I think the Papacy has long strayed from Jesus' original message and intent. They're more like the Pharisees which Jesus railed against. I'd like to hear someone try to say otherwise.

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« Reply #601 on: Jun 07, 2012 at 09:11 PM »
I think the Papacy has long strayed from Jesus' original message and intent. They're more like the Pharisees which Jesus railed against. I'd like to hear someone try to say otherwise.

If you say the Papacy has strayed from Jesus' original message, you imply that the Papacy started out OK, but later turned bad.

What I'm saying is that the Papacy was bad from the very beginning.  

So let me state it clearly --- the Pope is not the successor of Jesus Christ, contrary to popular belief.  Peter was not the first Pope.  The Pope and Jesus are not connected, and one has nothing to do with the other.

I've probably heard all the arguments to the contrary, and they're pretty easy to disprove. 

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #602 on: Jun 13, 2012 at 09:17 AM »

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #603 on: Jun 13, 2012 at 09:18 AM »

Pastor Jeric Soriano of NLCC, Pacquiao's spiritual adviser


Ito pala ang sekta ni Manny Pacquiao ngayon --- New Life Christian Center ("NLCC" or "New Life"), founded in 1991 in Alabang by US missionaries Pastor Paul Chase and his wife Shoddy.

Masyadong pangahas ang sektang ito.  Biro mo, ginagawang leader ng bible study si Pacquiao, samantalang wala namang kaalam-alam sa bibliya yon.  Ano sasabihin non, inutusan daw tayo ng Diyos na magpakarami?  ::)  Kung sabagay, kahit naman siguro yung pastor niya, wala ring alam sa bibliya  ;).



Example ng mga banat ni Manny:

Mr Pacquiao, who was elected to the Filipino parliament last year, has sided with the local Church against a new government bill to introduce free contraception and information about safe sex.

“God said go forth and multiply,” he said, after a meeting with the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines. “He did not say go and have just one or two children.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/manny-pacquiao/8521115/Manny-Pacquiao-opposes-birth-control-in-the-Philippines.html



Pero biblib ako sa Pastor ni Manny.  Pastor Jeric, magkano ang abuloy sa NLCC ni Manny na ikapu (10% or tithe) ng latest prize money niya?  Magkano naman ang ikapu ng PPV share?  :o




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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #604 on: Jun 13, 2012 at 08:30 PM »
Yan ang hirap sa kagaya ni Manny masyadong naive (no pun intended), medyo madaling mabola lalo na pag dating sa religion. I'm sure una unahan yang mga sectors na yan para makuha siya.

Baka ngayon lang nabasa ni Manny ang bible kaya napaka naive din ng interpretation nya.

I call for him to quite boxing. He will not be focused on boxing as long as he is too focused on his bible studies.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #605 on: Jun 13, 2012 at 09:00 PM »
Baka ngayon lang nabasa ni Manny ang bible kaya napaka naive din ng interpretation nya.

Siguradong nakuha lang ni Manny yon sa turo ng pastor.

Wala pang alam sa bibliya ang katulad ni Manny.  Hindi dapat namumuno ng bible study.  

"Go forth and multiply" daw, samantalang hindi naman ganon ang nakasulat.  Ang tama ay "Be fruitful and increase in number."  Simpleng simple, hindi pa masabi nang tama.  Sitas pa lang, mintis na.  Interpretation pa kaya ang tumama?

Ok lang naman ang magkamali.  Pero iba ang situation dito, kasi nangangahas magturo si Manny sa bible study.  In fairness, siguro ang dapat sisihin ay yung pastor.  Pastor Jeric, magkano ikapu ni Manny?  

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #606 on: Jun 14, 2012 at 05:40 PM »
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #607 on: Jun 17, 2012 at 06:23 PM »
Siyempre naman, there was surely a time when Soriano was not yet aware about the insertions in Mark 16.  But I think that was when he was much younger, and before he had a TV program.

Kasi noong 1980s pa lang, noong first time kong napanood sa channel 13 si Soriano, mahusay na talaga sa bibliya.  Ang payat pa nga niya noon, at ang laki ng eyeglasses ...  :D

At the time, sa The Plain Truth Magazine ng Worldwide Church of God ni Armstrong pa lang ako nakakakuha ng biblical principles.  I found out later na halos puro Adventist doctrines lang pala ang basis ng mga aral ni Armstrong.  Kasama sa doktrina nila ang sobrang pagsunod sa Old Testament, especially the belief in strict Sabbath-keeping.  Kaya nga bilib na bilib ako kay Soriano nang mapanood ko.  

Noong 1970s naman, nasa radio program siya ni Don Manolo Favis sa DZBB, kasama ang isang panel ng mga ministro ng iba-ibang sekta.  Matindi ang mga argumento doon.  Minsan nga, batuhan pa ng bibliya ...  :D  Pero hindi ko pa masyadong naiintindihan ang mga debate nila, bata pa kasi ako noong panahong yon e.




  sir barrister i have an officemate na church of god or dating daan and hindi ko ma take yung mga restrictions ng religion nila like:

1. bawal magpagupit ang mga babae
2. bawal mag pantalon ang babae
3. bawal mag hikaw at alahas ang mga babae and lalaki
4. bawal manuod ng sine (pero nag d download naman siya ng pirated :))
5. madami din bawal kainin lalo na halal food na mas matinding kasalanan pa daw kesa sa kasalanan ng    laman.

whats your take on these?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #608 on: Jun 18, 2012 at 03:00 PM »

  sir barrister i have an officemate na church of god or dating daan and hindi ko ma take yung mga restrictions ng religion nila like:

1. bawal magpagupit ang mga babae
2. bawal mag pantalon ang babae
3. bawal mag hikaw at alahas ang mga babae and lalaki
4. bawal manuod ng sine (pero nag d download naman siya ng pirated :))
5. madami din bawal kainin lalo na halal food na mas matinding kasalanan pa daw kesa sa kasalanan ng    laman.

whats your take on these?


1. bawal magpagupit ang mga babae

I disagree.

Ito ang basis nila:

4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? 14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. 16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God. (1 Cor. 11: 4-6; 13-16)  


Bawal daw magpagupit ng buhok ang babae.

Ang intindi ko, bawal sa babae ang praying or prophesying with her head uncovered.  

Sa verses 13-16, gumamit lang ng analogy --- the nature of things teaches that a woman's long hair is a glory unto her.  

Paano kung shoulder-length ang buhok ng babae.  "Short hair" na ba yon o long pa rin?  Sa akin, long pa rin yon.  Pero sa Dating Daan, mag-trim lang from waist-length to chest-length, bawal.  Kahit anong trim, kahit 1 inch lang, bawal.  


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2. bawal mag pantalon ang babae

I disagree.

Ito ang basis nila:

5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this. (Deut. 22:5)

Bawal daw ba mag pantalon ang babae?  Hindi derechong sinabi yon.

Ang bawal, cross-dressing.  Yan ang maliwanag sa sitas.  Pero pag nag pantalon lang ang babae, cross-dressing na ba agad yon?  Hindi ganon ang intindi ko e.


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3. bawal mag hikaw at alahas ang mga babae and lalaki

I agree that jewelry should be discouraged.  But I disagree na total ban dapat ang lahat ng klaseng jewelry.    

Ito ang basis nila:

9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.  (1 Tim.2:9-10)

3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. (1 Pet. 3:3)

Parehong sa babae ang dalawang sitas.  Wala yatang sitas para sa male jewelry.

Pero kahit sa babae lang, ayon sa sitas, bawal daw ba ang kahit anong jewelry, kahit wedding ring o class ring?  O ang sinasabi lang ay mas importante ang panloob na kabanalan kaysa sa panlabas na dekorasyon?


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4. bawal manuod ng sine (pero nag d download naman siya ng pirated :))

Ang alam ko, hindi lahat ng movies ay bawal sa kanila.  Hindi ko lang alam kung ano ang movies na OK sa kanila.

Ito ang basis nila:

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal. 5:19-21)

Bawal talaga yung mga kalayawan, tulad ng mga lasingan, shabu sessions, sex shows, etc.  

Kasama ba ang lahat ng klaseng movies doon?  Hindi naman siguro.  


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5. madami din bawal kainin lalo na halal food na mas matinding kasalanan pa daw kesa sa kasalanan ng    laman.

Sa Dating Daan, hindi bawal ang mga dating bawal sa Old Testament, kagaya ng baboy, pusit, hipon, etc.  May ilang pagkain pa rin na bawal sa Dating Daan, pero konti lang.

Kailangan natin ng introductory study para maintindihan ito.

Sa Kristiyano, nilinis na ni Hesus ang mga pagkain:

17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)  (Mark 7:17-19)

Pero may exceptions pa rin.  May tatlong bagay na bawal pa ring kainin ng Kristiyano, isa na rito ang pagkaing inalay sa diyos-diyosan:

20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.  (Acts 15:20)

29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. (Acts 15:29)

25 As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.” (Acts 21:25)


Ang paniniwala ng Dating Daan, ang pagkain na may halal mark ay nangangahulugan na ang pagkaing iyon ay inalay sa ibang diyos.

Sa Arabic, "Halal" (permissible) ay puwede; "Haraam" (forbidden) ay bawal.  Sa Islam, may mga pagkain na haraam sa kanila.  Para malaman agad ng devout Muslims kung lawful to eat ang grocery items, may mga food products na may halal mark.

Ang tanong, inalay nga ba sa ibang diyos ang pagkaing may halal mark?  

Personally, gray area yan.  Sa Islam kasi, slaughter of permitted animals has two requirements not found in Christianity: (a) The animal's head should be aligned with the Qiblah; (b) The animal should be slaughtered in the name of Allah.  Depende sa regional practice, may mga mataderong Muslim na sumisigaw ng "Allah Akbar" bago patayin ang kakataying hayop.

So personally, I would avoid halal-marked meat products to be safe.  But I don't see anything wrong with halal foods that are not meat products.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #609 on: Jun 19, 2012 at 08:57 AM »
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #610 on: Jun 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM »
2. bawal mag pantalon ang babae

I disagree.

Ito ang basis nila:

5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this. (Deut. 22:5)

Bawal daw ba mag pantalon ang babae?  Hindi derechong sinabi yon.

Ang bawal, cross-dressing.  Yan ang maliwanag sa sitas.  Pero pag nag pantalon lang ang babe, cross-dressing na ba agad yon?  Hindi ganon ang intindi ko e.

Hindi kaya kasi,100 years ago, if women wear pants, it's cross dressing na? Pero ngayon, acceptable na.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #611 on: Jun 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM »
Hindi kaya kasi,100 years ago, if women wear pants, it's cross dressing na? Pero ngayon, acceptable na.

that maybe the case...

kailan lang ba nauso ang pants o naimbento ang pants?


pinaka lesson dito ay ang motive why you wear that kind of dress (pangbabae man o pang lalake o unisex) ....modesty ba o show off... meron ding mga skirts (long skirts) na halos kita mo na rin ang kaluluwa ng nagsusuot....
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #612 on: Jun 19, 2012 at 01:08 PM »
Hindi kaya kasi,100 years ago, if women wear pants, it's cross dressing na? Pero ngayon, acceptable na.

You got the idea.  It depends on culture and time period.

Kung 1912 ngayon, ok lang na ipagbawal ng Dating Daan ang women's pants.  Pero bakit ipinagbabawal yon sa kanila ngayong 2012?

That verse in the book of Deuteronomy was written in 1400 BC.  Of course it can't mention pants, which became popular only in the early 1500s AD.  Women's pants became acceptable in the West in the 1960s.

That's why the verse does not mention specific types of clothing, and instead merely states a prohibition against cross-dressing.  The decision to consider specific types of clothing as cross-dressing is up to us.  That will depend on culture and time period.  Kaya nga ang sabi sa sitas, "ang babae ay huwag mananamit ng nauukol sa lalake;" hindi sinabing "ang babae ang huwag magpapantalon."  :D

For example --- Let's say the premise is bawal mag palda ang lalaki, kasi cross-dressing.  Masasabi mo bang cross-dressing ito:




Of course not.

In the same manner, hindi mo puwedeng sabihin na nagpantalon lang ang babae, automatically cross-dressing na.


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« Reply #613 on: Jun 19, 2012 at 07:22 PM »
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal. 5:19-21

Bawal talaga yung mga kalayawan, tulad ng mga lasingan, shabu sessions, sex shows, etc.  

Kasama ba ang lahat ng klaseng movies doon?  Hindi naman siguro.  


Lahat daw ng sine bawal sir. Its not the content but the venue. Pag sa picc daw or sa meralco theater or the likes pwede, pero sa regular movie theater bawal kasi daw may mga kasalanan daw na nangyayari dun. Baka mga sine sa quiapo yun..... Was amazed at this reasoning.....

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #614 on: Jun 19, 2012 at 10:35 PM »
Lahat daw ng sine bawal sir. Its not the content but the venue. Pag sa picc daw or sa meralco theater or the likes pwede, pero sa regular movie theater bawal kasi daw may mga kasalanan daw na nangyayari dun. Baka mga sine sa quiapo yun..... Was amazed at this reasoning.....

Ngayon ko lang narinig yan, pero tama yata ang info mo sir.  

Nag search ako sa mga forum.  May nagsasabing kalayawan ang bawal, pero mas maraming nagsasabing yung venue nga ang bawal, kasi raw may kasamaan sa loob ng sinehan.

Masyado namang outdated ang notion na yon.  Noong araw na ang mga sinehan ay mura, malaki at madilim, may mga magic talagang nagyayari.  Sa laki nga ng mga sine noon, tatlo pa ang sections: orchestra, lodge and balcony.  Ngayon, ang mga sinehan sa mall ay mahal, maliit at maliwanag, kaya hindi na uso ang mga ganon sa sine ng malls ngayon.    

Nagtataka naman ako, kahit sa sine sa SM, bawal.  

Ewan ko sa kanila.  Ang pinagmamalaki nila sa TV, bibliya lang ang basis nila, pero sa actual practice sa members, malalayo pala ang pinapatupad na interpretation.
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« Reply #615 on: Jun 20, 2012 at 10:57 AM »
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal. 5:19-21

Bawal talaga yung mga kalayawan, tulad ng mga lasingan, shabu sessions, sex shows, etc.  

Kasama ba ang lahat ng klaseng movies doon?  Hindi naman siguro.  


Lahat daw ng sine bawal sir. Its not the content but the venue. Pag sa picc daw or sa meralco theater or the likes pwede, pero sa regular movie theater bawal kasi daw may mga kasalanan daw na nangyayari dun. Baka mga sine sa quiapo yun..... Was amazed at this reasoning.....


this is the reasoning of conservative Baptists.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #616 on: Jun 20, 2012 at 01:02 PM »
Or baptists who want an excuse to watch their favorite movies in theaters. ;)

Joke lang.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #617 on: Jun 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM »
Some Baptists groups and Protestant born-again groups ban movie-watching.  

However, the main reason as far as I know is not because of the venue, but because of the content.


Example: (Zion Baptist Church)

You Shouldn't Attend a Movie Theater...and here's why

... First is the absolute lack of content control.  The difference between watching a movie at home vs. the theater is a matter of content control.  I need not to explain much here because it is quite obvious that if you are in a theater you will be exposed to whatever flashes on the big screen regardless of what you came there to see.  ...

Second is the toleration of or even acceptance/endorsement of many lies and anti-God philosophy.


http://www.hardecker.com/2012/06/you-shouldnt-attend-movie-theaterand.html
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #618 on: Jun 24, 2012 at 07:21 AM »
High level Catholic church official guilty of pedophilia cover-up



William J. Lynn is 61-years-old and a former Monsignor of the Philadelphia Archdiocese, and he has been convicted of child endangerment and now faces up to seven years in prison. He is one of the first high level Catholic church officials to be found guilty, as it relates to sexual abuse, in the history of The United States.

The former monsignor's job description included overseeing a church that had over 1.5 million members, while being in charge of 800 priests and investigating them. Because he failed to investigate properly, there was no other person to investigate Lynn's poor investigations between 1992 - 2004.

Lynn was convinced of covering-up the villainous behavior of accused pedophile priests for decades. In 1994 Lynn had compiled a list of 37 priests in the local archdiocese who were either confirmed, or suspected pedophiles with evidence.

The linchpin of this case for the prosecution boiled down to proving that William Lynn, by his actions, had put more children into harm's way by attempting to protect the interests of the church rather than of children. He also faced other charges of conspiracy, but was acquitted.

An odd aspect of this case was the co-defendant, Rev. James J. Brennan, who was accused and acquitted of charges of rape and child endangerment. There was a deadlocked jury on the charges relating to the reverend, so the judge declared a mistrial. It is still possible, however, for the prosecution to re-indict Brennan again. They have not said what they plan to do moving forward.

Curiously, it is not disputed that William J. Lynn is not a pedophile. He was never accused of inappropriately touching children in anyway, but rather he is facing prison time now for facilitating their abuse. It is a crime that some say is equally as despicable as the abuse itself -- to know a child is suffering under such torments only to look away and shuffle paperwork.

Now justice has found William Lynn, and hopefully it will also find the despicable heartless priests who were indeed behind the original abuse.


http://www.examiner.com/article/high-level-catholic-church-official-guilty-of-pedophilia-cover-up

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #619 on: Jun 24, 2012 at 09:02 PM »
Church Accountability: Is it a myth?

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Posted at 06/23/2012 8:40 PM | Updated as of 06/23/2012 8:40 PM
For more than a thousand years, the Roman Catholic Church was the only official Christian church. A little over 500 years ago, the Roman Catholic church was splintered by the reformation that a German monk began by attacking corruption in the institution. At that time, the church held the monopoly of bible knowledge. Priests and church officials who spoke and read Latin were the only ones authorized to interpret God’s law and will for the people. This knowledge perpetuated the corruption. At some point in our Christian history, the bishops and cardinals were selling indulgences that serve as the means to salvation or entry to heaven. By buying these indulgences, individuals get a number of years reprieve from purgatory. These were widely accepted practices which the Pope even accepted.
Church Accountability: Is it a myth?

by Jess Lorenzo
Posted at 06/23/2012 8:40 PM | Updated as of 06/23/2012 8:40 PM
For more than a thousand years, the Roman Catholic Church was the only official Christian church. A little over 500 years ago, the Roman Catholic church was splintered by the reformation that a German monk began by attacking corruption in the institution. At that time, the church held the monopoly of bible knowledge. Priests and church officials who spoke and read Latin were the only ones authorized to interpret God’s law and will for the people. This knowledge perpetuated the corruption. At some point in our Christian history, the bishops and cardinals were selling indulgences that serve as the means to salvation or entry to heaven. By buying these indulgences, individuals get a number of years reprieve from purgatory. These were widely accepted practices which the Pope even accepted.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/blogs/insights/06/23/12/church-accountability-it-myth

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #620 on: Jun 25, 2012 at 01:28 PM »
Pero biblib ako sa Pastor ni Manny.  Pastor Jeric, magkano ang abuloy sa NLCC ni Manny na ikapu (10% or tithe) ng latest prize money niya?  Magkano naman ang ikapu ng PPV share?  :o



Marami pang interesado ...  :D



Pastors swarming Pacquiao for money
Cebu Daily News
8:43 am | Monday, June 25th, 2012

GENERAL SANTOS CITY — Protestant pastors have been coming in droves to Manny Pacquiao’s mansion here. And their number is increasing each day.

One day, seven of them coming from different religious factions arrived. The next day, the number rose to 10. They take a bath, sleep and eat right there as if it is their own house.

... The source said that one pastor was given an I-Pad but seemingly not contented with what he got, he still asked for a new service vehicle. “Now, he is sporting brand new pick-up, courtesy of Manny Pacquiao,” the source added.

Another pastor asked for cash, while the other abandoned his flock somewhere in Northern Luzon just to be with the boxer-lawmaker.

... Before, he said, the distractions in Pacquiao’s life were his gambling and drinking buddies. “Now, the distractions are the pastors and they are far more costly than the previous ones.”


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/218249/pastors-swarming-pacquiao-for-money
« Last Edit: Jun 25, 2012 at 01:52 PM by barrister »

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #621 on: Jun 25, 2012 at 03:11 PM »
That is the power of money in filipino culture. If you want to destroy something , put money up front in between. Friendship, values, principles flies out of the window.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #622 on: Jun 27, 2012 at 08:28 PM »
Do you know anyone prayerful who shares this man's views?


Jack Wu

According to AP, Wu also advocates a literal interpretation of the Bible and believes the world is 6,000 years old. The US Geological Survey puts the number at closer to 4.5 billion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/26/westboro-jack-wu_n_1628006.html

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #623 on: Jun 28, 2012 at 07:27 AM »
That is the power of money in filipino culture. If you want to destroy something , put money up front in between. Friendship, values, principles flies out of the window.

And/or, tirahin mo ang pride ng isang tao to induce anger.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #624 on: Jun 28, 2012 at 07:38 AM »

Pastors swarming Pacquiao for money
Cebu Daily News
8:43 am | Monday, June 25th, 2012

GENERAL SANTOS CITY — Protestant pastors have been coming in droves to Manny Pacquiao’s mansion here. And their number is increasing each day.

One day, seven of them coming from different religious factions arrived. The next day, the number rose to 10. They take a bath, sleep and eat right there as if it is their own house.

... The source said that one pastor was given an I-Pad but seemingly not contented with what he got, he still asked for a new service vehicle. “Now, he is sporting brand new pick-up, courtesy of Manny Pacquiao,” the source added.

Another pastor asked for cash, while the other abandoned his flock somewhere in Northern Luzon just to be with the boxer-lawmaker.

... Before, he said, the distractions in Pacquiao’s life were his gambling and drinking buddies. “Now, the distractions are the pastors and they are far more costly than the previous ones.”


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/218249/pastors-swarming-pacquiao-for-money


Tsk tsk....... Poor Manny....  :P
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #625 on: Jun 28, 2012 at 10:10 AM »
Tsk tsk....... Poor Manny....  :P

Ang dami kasing money si Manny.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #626 on: Jun 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM »
If I were Manny, mag migrate na lang ako sa US.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #627 on: Jul 01, 2012 at 05:17 PM »
Mormons quit church in mass resignation ceremony
(Reuters) - A group of about 150 Mormons quit their church in a mass resignation ceremony in Salt Lake City on Saturday in a rare display of defiance ending decades of disagreement for some over issues ranging from polygamy to gay marriage.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/01/us-usa-utah-mormons-idUSBRE86000N20120701

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #628 on: Jul 02, 2012 at 03:55 PM »
Who are the Pastors that are confirmed to be swarming Pacquiao?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #629 on: Jul 02, 2012 at 04:06 PM »
Who are the Pastors that are confirmed to be swarming Pacquiao?

and their denomination/religion/sect name?
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