Author Topic: PBA Season 37 (Read 140710 times)

newwaveboy · « **Reply #780 on:** Apr 20, 2012 at 07:08 PM »

PBA Comm. Cheato Salud strikes again ...... walang tigil ang moro-moro sa PBA.

** Despite being a rookie, Marcio Lassiter is running 3rd in overall stats for the entire league (!)

** Rabeh Al-Hussaini & Rey Guevarra were part of a previous lopsided trade ..... Al-Hussaini just came from an ACL injury and hardly played this season ...... Rey Guevarra is not injured, yet saw little playing time ...... Lordy Tugade was "waived" by AIR21, prior to being picked-up by PETRON.

Any other professional league in the world would have raised a howl with this trade ...... raised a howl with the countless other previous lopsided trades.

This is the PBA ..... "Kampihan Na" - Cheato Salud

brainwashed · « **Reply #781 on:** Apr 20, 2012 at 11:47 PM »

now what if Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Rey Guevarra and Lordy Tugade are given playing time in their new team, and then Rabeh and Rey achieve their potential and Lordy's game comes back in just a short period of time, will Eala then try to get them back again?

sana lahat ng itrade ni eala palabas ng Petron, Ginebra o BMeg ay gumaling para manghinayang sila sa mga binibitawan nila.

wengkapre · « **Reply #782 on:** Apr 21, 2012 at 12:39 PM »

Quote from: boredfilmmaker on Apr 20, 2012 at 04:26 PM

And it's finally done.. Lassiter is now with Petron together with Celino Cruz for Al Hussaini, Guevarra and Lordy Tugade..

pwede na din

hanep apat ang kapalit, bibitawan na din siguro si Hontiveros

boredfilmmaker · « **Reply #783 on:** Apr 21, 2012 at 01:07 PM »

Quote from: wengkapre on Apr 21, 2012 at 12:39 PM

pwede na din hanep apat ang kapalit, bibitawan na din siguro si Hontiveros

tatlo lang mapupunta sa Powerade.. Petron will probably alternate Lutz and Lassiter at 3 when Dondon comes back.. Yeo and Dondon will be their SG.. Miranda will slide back to PG with Alex and Celino Cruz as 3rd string.. they'll probably draft a big man in August.. either Fajardo or Slaughter.. Ildefonso will retire.. then Toroman will probably take over by then.. Alfrancis Chua will coach Ginebra by then as well.. and the Ron Jacobs/Danding era in SMC will officially be over..

newwaveboy · « **Reply #784 on:** Apr 21, 2012 at 02:17 PM »

Quote from: wengkapre on Apr 21, 2012 at 12:39 PM

pwede na din hanep apat ang kapalit, bibitawan na din siguro si Hontiveros

Hontiveros was part of the lopsided deal that brought over Al-Hussaini, Baclao & Guevarra from AIR21 ..... Hontiveros was actually the centerpiece of the revised deal that finally got Salud's approval.

Yet after just a single conference, Hontiveros was back in PETRON .... moro-moro right?

There's some rumors that Yeo might be eventually moved because of the SG logjam in PETRON.

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One more angle on why the Lassiter trade stinks.

** Al-Hussaini & Guevarra were high picks when they were drafted back in 2010. They are now on the 3rd year of their rookie contracts ..... which guarantees a monthly salary of no less than P300k per month (!)

** Meanwhile, Marcio Lassiter is a rookie ..... despite being a rookie, he was instrumental in their Finals stint last conference ..... he is running 3rd in stats in the entire PBA.

Lassiter is on the 1st year of his rookie contract which is only pegged at P150K per month.

** Between Lordy Tugade & Celino Cruz, there is no doubt that Tugade is commanding the bigger salary - likely around P250k per month.

Basically, the trade makes POWERADE absorb an additional salary expense of around P500,000 per month .... while giving up the man responsible for their Finals stint ..... in exchange for players who hardly played at all? WTF?

Let's not even mention that POWERADE head coach Bo Perasol & (ex) team governor JB Baylon has repeatedly announced that they do not want to trade Lassiter or any of their core (David, Lassiter, Casio, Anthony & Kramer).

Together with the leaked POWERADE signed document ..... Baylon's resignation ..... it's very obvious that the Lassiter-trade is yet another one of SMC's unethical moves to get the best players available.

-sniper- · « **Reply #785 on:** Apr 25, 2012 at 08:29 PM »

a won game that slipped away....series now tied at 1-1.

on another issue...a bit far fetched but seems logical. joel banal recently resigned as coach of alaska and was replaced by luigi trillo. before joel left, alaska was sold to a dutch company. before the season started, tim cone left the team and joined b-meg. now, there are rumors that alaska will either disband or sell its franchise. then it crossed my mind --- could it be possible that it was fred uytengsu's plan all along to disband the team? and to reward cone for all his hard work and loyalty, he was told to leave the team so as not to be affected by the team's disbandment?

boredfilmmaker · « **Reply #786 on:** Apr 25, 2012 at 08:51 PM »

Quote from: -sniper- on Apr 25, 2012 at 08:29 PM

on another issue...a bit far fetched but seems logical. joel banal recently resigned as coach of alaska and was replaced by luigi trillo. before joel left, alaska was sold to a dutch company. before the season started, tim cone left the team and joined b-meg. now, there are rumors that alaska will either disband or sell its franchise. then it crossed my mind --- could it be possible that it was fred uytengsu's plan all along to disband the team? and to reward cone for all his hard work and loyalty, he was told to leave the team so as not to be affected by the team's disbandment?

No.. it was Tim Cone's decision to leave.. it's pretty obvious why Tim Cone left.. he has 13 titles and Baby Dalupan has 15.. he wants to be the coach with the most titles in the PBA.. he realized that with Uytengsu not willing to spend more to have a competitive team, he has no chance of surpassing Dalupan if he stays with Alaska..

-sniper- · « **Reply #787 on:** Apr 25, 2012 at 09:03 PM »

Quote from: boredfilmmaker on Apr 25, 2012 at 08:51 PM

No.. it was Tim Cone's decision to leave.. it's pretty obvious why Tim Cone left.. he has 13 titles and Baby Dalupan has 15.. he wants to be the coach with the most titles in the PBA.. he realized that with Uytengsu not willing to spend more to have a competitive team, he has no chance of surpassing Dalupan if he stays with Alaska..

well, it just crossed my mind. a fruit of my very playful mind.

newwaveboy · « **Reply #788 on:** Apr 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM »

PBA records show that ALASKA is the league's highest salaried team - having the most number of players receiving the maximum salary of P350k per month.

Of the 15 PBA players receiving max salary ...... 4 plays for ALASKA (Sonny Thoss, LA Tenorio, JR Reyes & Tony Dela Cruz) ..... another 2 (Devance & Hugnatan) received their max salary contracts when they were still with ALASKA.

It's clear that ALASKA abides by the salary cap rules ..... and spends money, within these rules, to build a contending team.

Tim Cone does want more championships to surpass Dalupan ..... what's funny is, Tim Cone has time and again, blasted SMC for all the dubious stuff ..... yet in the end, joins them to chase the record.

Onkyo606 · « **Reply #789 on:** Apr 26, 2012 at 08:18 AM »

JR Reyes is maximum salary? wow how can this be eh parang wala namang naitutulong sa alaska ito, mas ok pa yata to keep hugnatan than getting reyes before

newwaveboy · « **Reply #790 on:** Apr 26, 2012 at 08:29 AM »

Quote from: Onkyo606 on Apr 26, 2012 at 08:18 AM

JR Reyes is maximum salary? wow how can this be eh parang wala namang naitutulong sa alaska ito, mas ok pa yata to keep hugnatan than getting reyes before

JR Reyes received his max salary contract while he was with his previous RAIN OR SHINE team.

I fully agree that he is inept in many ways ..... however, he was the best trade available during the time when Joe "Green Pastures" Devance was demanding that he be traded from ALASKA.

Hugnatan's max contract was the very same reason that ALASKA traded him away ...... Cyrus Baguio was up for a contract renewal - management chose to trade Hugnatan (and Fonacier) to stay under the salary cap and be able to renew Baguio and sign-up Custodio.

Like I said, ALASKA follows the PBA salary cap ..... their line-up (great starting-five + weak bench) is indicative of that.

SMC & TnT teams are ultra-loaded with name players (great starting five + great bench + great injured/reserve list) ..... obviously, doing hocus-pocus acts to retain such a lineup.

ivannn · « **Reply #791 on:** Apr 26, 2012 at 02:06 PM »

what do you guys think on TnT getting so many FT attempts? in my opinion, masyadong malayo ang FT attempt stats ng finals.

newwaveboy · « **Reply #792 on:** Apr 26, 2012 at 03:48 PM »

Quote from: ivannn on Apr 26, 2012 at 02:06 PM

what do you guys think on TnT getting so many FT attempts? in my opinion, masyadong malayo ang FT attempt stats ng finals.

FT disparity shouldn't be an issue, as long as one team is the clear agressor ..... it becomes an issue when the refs continuously call 'em differently for both teams.

During the recent BMEG-BGK semis, fouls being called against BGK were not being called against BMEG (ex. Simon's pushes against Helterbrand causing JJ a few turnovers).

During the recent TnT-BARAKO semis, refs suddenly turn whistle-happy when TnT started to whine about their bandages (save for the cheapshot on K.Williams of course).

The most infamous of course was the NBA 2002 game 6 between the Lakers & the Kings .... that game showed extremely clear bias by the refs for Lakers.

However, during these Finals, TnT has been the more agressive team ..... Jason Castro's forays into the lane alone can get 2-3 fouls a quarter from BMEG.

One more thing, Castro sells marginal fouls well ..... he isn't flopping, he just knows how to emphasize the contact from opposing teams.

The Finals should get more tight (and exciting) from hereon in ..... hope the refs dont play a part in any victory or loss.

-sniper- · « **Reply #793 on:** Apr 29, 2012 at 09:05 PM »

series tied...TnT played superb tonight. they had B-Meg since the get-go.

the most exciting part was at the 1:47 mark of the game.

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MC47 seems to have finally broken the media barrier. or maybe he got the votes form the other sources. either way, he still won it.

ivannn · « **Reply #794 on:** Apr 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM »

sayang kanina yung chance for BMEG to go 3-1... naging predictable sila masyado sa half court setup nila.

there many non-calls rin by the refs.

brainwashed · « **Reply #795 on:** Apr 30, 2012 at 09:08 AM »

Quote from: -sniper- on Apr 29, 2012 at 09:05 PM

MC47 seems to have finally broken the media barrier. or maybe he got the votes form the other sources. either way, he still won it.

being hurt and bgk's subsequent elimination might have helped too!

boredfilmmaker · « **Reply #796 on:** May 01, 2012 at 02:35 PM »

looks like Powerade is back to SMC na.. they're doing a fire sale now.. Lassiter is gone and now they just tried to trade a vastly improved Doug Kramer to Barako for a rarely used Jondan Salvador.. Salud vetoed it but it's going thru at some point.. Kramer will probably move to either Ginebra or B-Meg, eventually.. Petron just got Dorian Peña back from Barako kapalit ni Celino Cruz at Carlos Sharma.. SMC now has 5 teams in the league and all they have to show for it is 1 title..

just over a year ago, Petron traded Hontiveros, Seigle, Peña and Artadi for Al Hussaini, Baclao and Guevarra.. one year later, only Baclao remains and they've gotten back Hontiveros and Peña.. they also acquired the top rookie this season by trading away the guys they traded for last year.. if you're blind, you'd say Noli Eala is a genius.. imagine, he traded the pillars of the team then 1 year later he gets them back at may kasama pang players that will carry the team in the future.. how freakin' blind is the PBA? PBA execs should undergo a lifestyle check starting with Salud and Bert Lina..

newwaveboy · « **Reply #797 on:** May 01, 2012 at 04:10 PM »

^ Tsk tsk tsk ...... yet more blatant moves by SMC & it's lackeys to further strengthen the already loaded SMC teams.

** Dorian Pena is old, but still very valuable down low - TnT's import Harvey had it hard with Pena during their recent semis match with BARAKO.

Sharma (who was practically "waived" by AIR21 to PETRON less then a year ago) hardly plays for PETRON .... while Celino Cruz has long been relegated to 3rd string PG at POWERADE.

** Doug Kramer has had a great season so far (dipped a bit this import-laden conference) and is actually a good candidate for MIP.

Jondan Salvador has been buried deep in BARAKO's old bench.

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"Kampihan na!" - Cheato Salud

"Fair play, professionalism & salary cap ..... ano yun?? " - Noli Eala, Ramon Ang & Danding Cojunagco

"Players mo, sagot ko!" - Bert Lina

"Hindi na kaya nang sikmura ko ang garapalan. I resign." - POWERADE's JB Baylon

"What's the difference with our P350,000 and the other team's P350,000? They're the same right?" - ALASKA's Wilfred Uytengsu

ivannn · « **Reply #798 on:** May 02, 2012 at 10:23 AM »

rejected daw ang kramer - salvador trade. buti na lang. =)

newwaveboy · « **Reply #799 on:** May 02, 2012 at 11:10 AM »

Quote from: ivannn on May 02, 2012 at 10:23 AM

rejected daw ang kramer - salvador trade. buti na lang. =)

Like the recent Lassiter trade and all the numerous lopsided trades that SMC has done ..... this trade will likely push thru eventually.

PBA Comm. Cheato Salud will make sure of that.

By the way, the proposed trade is between POWERADE (Kramer) and BARAKO BULL (Salvador) ...... will anybody be surprised when Doug Kramer somehow winds up in SMC ??

Walang tigil ang moro-moro sa PBA sidelines.

ivannn · « **Reply #800 on:** May 02, 2012 at 12:04 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on May 02, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Like the recent Lassiter trade and all the numerous lopsided trades that SMC has done ..... this trade will likely push thru eventually.

PBA Comm. Cheato Salud will make sure of that.

By the way, the proposed trade is between POWERADE (Kramer) and BARAKO BULL (Salvador) ...... will anybody be surprised when Doug Kramer somehow winds up in SMC ??

Walang tigil ang moro-moro sa PBA sidelines.

yep, it will be revised eventually. sad sad sad case lang din talaga kasi nasisira ang lineups ng mga teams and di nagiging balanced ang competition. sana next conference ang mag laban sa finals eh rain or shine and alaska and ma-upset nila sa semis ang mga MVP and SMC owned teams =)

jericm · « **Reply #801 on:** May 03, 2012 at 12:59 PM »

As suspected, Powerade is on a fire sale.... looks like Gary David is the top auction item. Lassiter was the first one to go, Kramer will follow as soon as the deal is revised.

ivannn · « **Reply #802 on:** May 03, 2012 at 01:05 PM »

who will get gary david and casio kaya?

newwaveboy · « **Reply #803 on:** May 03, 2012 at 02:26 PM »

^ Let's just say that should Gary David & JV Casio get traded ..... they'll likely end up with SMC or TnT.

Like I said, the leaked POWERADE document (signed no less by COKE's CEO) clearly shows that the franchise is on it's way out ...... despite this, PBA Commish Cheato Salud still allowed the lopsided Lassiter trade.

The PBA is the premiere sports league in the country ...... hence, it should be in the frontline promoting teamwork, values and honest competition.

The PBA hasn't promoted anything positive in a long time now ...... worse, these lopsided trades and questionable transactions have created millions of fanboys who value only winning - with no care at all to fair play & professionalism.

ivannn · « **Reply #804 on:** May 03, 2012 at 02:34 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on May 03, 2012 at 02:26 PM

^ Let's just say that should Gary David & JV Casio get traded ..... they'll likely end up with SMC or TnT.

Like I said, the leaked POWERADE document (signed no less by COKE's CEO) clearly shows that the franchise is on it's way out ...... despite this, PBA Commish Cheato Salud still allowed the lopsided Lassiter trade.

The PBA is the premiere sports league in the country ...... hence, it should be in the frontline promoting teamwork, values and honest competition.

The PBA hasn't promoted anything positive in a long time now ...... worse, these lopsided trades and questionable transactions have created millions of fanboys who value only winning - with no care at all to fair play & professionalism.

which is why im hoping for an alaska vs rain or shine finals for next conference =) para sampal sa mga lopsided trades sa pba to strengthen certain teams.

newwaveboy · « **Reply #805 on:** May 03, 2012 at 02:44 PM »

^ That's exactly why POWERADE's Finals stint last conference was a very good thing for the sport ..... it showed that a bad team can rebuild itself properly, through the draft and succeed.

POWERADE was a always the team being eliminated early ..... but when they drafted smart e.g. Anthony, Casio, Lassiter, Lingganay, Allera, etc they began to win and contend.

Lo and behold - just a conference later, PBA Comm. Cheato Salud & Noli Eala conspire to get Lassiter for PETRON. Shame on Salud & SMC.

An ALASKA-ROS finals would be nice ..... though I wouldn't mind any finals tandem at all - as long as fair play & professionalism (on and off the court) was observed.

brainwashed · « **Reply #806 on:** May 03, 2012 at 03:41 PM »

As long as the SMC teams cannot form a team which can compete consistently with TnT, there will always be lopsided or questionable trades and deals. TnT hasn't made any questionable deals lately, since the team is probably the best and most consistent team these past few years. Expect that any deals made by MVP will be for Meralco's benefit.

These trades and deals have their cons too. With constant trading and dealing, chemistry between players will not be established. Confidence and moral go down, specially if you are part of the starting five and then suddenly you're relegated to a supporting role with diminished playing time.

Onkyo606 · « **Reply #807 on:** May 03, 2012 at 06:21 PM »

Quote from: brainwashed on May 03, 2012 at 03:41 PM

As long as the SMC teams cannot form a team which can compete consistently with TnT, there will always be lopsided or questionable trades and deals. TnT hasn't made any questionable deals lately, since the team is probably the best and most consistent team these past few years. Expect that any deals made by MVP will be for Meralco's benefit.

These trades and deals have their cons too. With constant trading and dealing, chemistry between players will not be established. Confidence and moral go down, specially if you are part of the starting five and then suddenly you're relegated to a supporting role with diminished playing time.

on the other hand, this might be a big surprise to SMC Teams who keep trading non superstars, i Recalled during his rookie year and prior to injury, Jon Dan Salvador is a force to reckon with, if he has the will, he has what it takes to excel, I hope he use this chance being trasfrred to a lowly team compared to SMC teams or MVP teams. Tugade is one of the superstars before and he might get a second wind in his career who knows. Ray Guevarra is a decent player in the amateur, I hope he also gets the chance to excel and Al Husseini is an MVP and very tall, we can never tell, I hope these players do well as they are all capable

ivannn · « **Reply #808 on:** May 04, 2012 at 09:21 AM »

should the former SMC players excel in their new teams, expect SMC to engineer a new trade to get them back =)

boredfilmmaker · « **Reply #809 on:** May 04, 2012 at 11:20 AM »

and the fire sale is still on.. rumors are ripe for a Casio to Petron, Cabagnot to Ginebra and Cortez to Powerade trade.. if this pushes thru, I feel bad for Cortez.. the guy played his heart out this conference.. in the absence of Caguioa, siya yung nagstep-up.. and the Casio to Petron move would probably mean that Ato Agustin doesn't have much time left as coach of Petron.. Casio, Lutz, Lassiter.. these are Toroman boys..