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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2910 on: Oct 16, 2010 at 09:44 PM »
If Japanese buyers' preference is used as basis (see HifiDo's past transactions), assuming both units are in same condition, the Sansui would be a better buy. The highest last transaction of a607 at HifiDo was quoted 35,000 yen while the Integra 917F was sold 30,000 yen.



ibig sabihin sir, wala ako masyado makikitang performance upgrade sa Integra917 from Sansui a607 ko?

salamat sa reply sir.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2911 on: Oct 17, 2010 at 12:10 PM »
I think SPEC 2 and SPEC 4 (which are popular in the US) are actually international versions of Japanese Pioneer's M-77 and M-75. Problema hindi nilabas ng mga Hapon yung mga (Pioneer) Exclusive amps nila. Baka ayaw ipa-kopya sa mga Kano, parang SIT/VFET amps ng Sony at Yamaha.

http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/index2.html
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2912 on: Oct 17, 2010 at 12:19 PM »
ibig sabihin sir, wala ako masyado makikitang performance upgrade sa Integra917 from Sansui a607 ko?

salamat sa reply sir.

Kung ako sa 'yo, bibigyan ko ng full amount yung nagbebenta ng Onkyo 917F. Pero may option to return, say 2 days, with 'rent' of P250 (or P150) per day. Ibig sabihin, kung hindi ka satisfied, isosoli mo ang unit balik ang pera mo less P500 for the 2 days you used it.

Kung magustuhan mo ang unit compared with a607, wala nang solian ng unit at ng pera. I-dispose mo na lang yung Sansui a607 mo. At least hindi ka magsisisi dahil pinili mo yung gusto mo. 

I did that a couple of times here in Davao, I usually risk P500 for a two-day trial of amps costing over P5k. At least I'm sure I got what I want.
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2913 on: Oct 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM »

nagpost na ako sa LF thread mo at piniem # ni nani (tukayo ni sandawa)

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2914 on: Oct 17, 2010 at 08:50 PM »
Kung ako sa 'yo, bibigyan ko ng full amount yung nagbebenta ng Onkyo 917F. Pero may option to return, say 2 days, with 'rent' of P250 (or P150) per day. Ibig sabihin, kung hindi ka satisfied, isosoli mo ang unit balik ang pera mo less P500 for the 2 days you used it.

Kung magustuhan mo ang unit compared with a607, wala nang solian ng unit at ng pera. I-dispose mo na lang yung Sansui a607 mo. At least hindi ka magsisisi dahil pinili mo yung gusto mo. 

I did that a couple of times here in Davao, I usually risk P500 for a two-day trial of amps costing over P5k. At least I'm sure I got what I want.

problema ko lang sir nde ko ma-audition yung 917 sa store ang hirap kasi kausap ng mga Hapon dito. anyway sir maraming salamat sa info.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2915 on: Nov 02, 2010 at 01:40 PM »
planning to buy a surplus integrated amplifier.
is the sony TA-F5 amplifier a good buy?


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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2916 on: Nov 03, 2010 at 11:35 AM »
meron kasi dito sa cebu, di ko lang alam kung worth keeping tong amp na to...
sony TA-F5, info naman po dyan!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2917 on: Nov 03, 2010 at 03:31 PM »
Darn, I was able to drop by at Chattys 4 weeks ago, got my eye on a Sony ES-555 DTS Receiver, got a glimpse of this Pioneer Integrated Amp that says on the front "Simple and Straight". I think its a pioneer UK3-MK2 with a detachable power cord and no tone controls. 3.5k according to Ate Vangie, did'nt paid much attention because of the ES555 only to find out later that night when I did a search that it was the same as the legendary Pioneer A-400 and classified as being one of the top ten must have audio equipment of all times, its no 4 on the list, no. 1 is the Linn Sondek turntable.

Called the next day, reserve na daw.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2918 on: Nov 04, 2010 at 08:08 AM »
planning to buy a surplus integrated amplifier.
is the sony TA-F5 amplifier a good buy?



one way to know is to listen to it, better with your own set of speakers and your source material.
if its good to your liking, go for it...

to some, the more you read manuals or info related to this hobby, the more confused you become & the more you doubt your judgement ;D
i like vu meters :D
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2919 on: Nov 05, 2010 at 08:42 AM »
one way to know is to listen to it, better with your own set of speakers and your source material.
if its good to your liking, go for it...

to some, the more you read manuals or info related to this hobby, the more confused you become & the more you doubt your judgement ;D
i like vu meters :D

thank you sir!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2920 on: Nov 05, 2010 at 06:56 PM »
Mga sir any AVR available kaya dito sa manila? meron po bang surplus store that I can visit? planning to set my own HT. salamat po..or baka merong nag bebenta jan 7.5K below po ang budget ko. salamat..

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2921 on: Nov 06, 2010 at 06:49 AM »
Quote from: jnazareta link=topic=15332.msg1285932#msg1285932 date=
Mga sir any AVR available kaya dito sa manila? meron po bang surplus store that I can visit? planning to set my own HT. salamat po..or baka merong nag bebenta jan 7.5K below po ang budget ko. salamat..

Mostly sa pier prologic lng ung makikita mong mga avr. I suggest na mag abang-abang kna nlng dito sa marketplace ng PDVD at your budget makakakuha kna ng DTS capable na AVR.. ;)

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2922 on: Nov 06, 2010 at 02:28 PM »
meron sa pier pero ang alam ko pag DTS parang nsa 10k na. hintay hntay ka lng dito mkakatyempo ka rin.
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2923 on: Nov 08, 2010 at 11:37 AM »
+1. Sa Pier, wala pang remote kasama. Mahihirapan ka magset-up lalo na pag remote-dependent ang avr

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2924 on: Nov 08, 2010 at 07:17 PM »
Mga sir any AVR available kaya dito sa manila? meron po bang surplus store that I can visit? planning to set my own HT. salamat po..or baka merong nag bebenta jan 7.5K below po ang budget ko. salamat..

just helping out. not mine, no affiliation. goodluck. :)
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/2856065/pioneer+vsx+d412


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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2925 on: Nov 18, 2010 at 02:38 PM »
meron kasi dito sa cebu, di ko lang alam kung worth keeping tong amp na to...
sony TA-F5, info naman po dyan!  ;D ;D ;D

I'll buy it if were you  ;) kita ko daghan ani sa Labangon ug Tabunok :D

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2926 on: Nov 18, 2010 at 04:42 PM »
Sir Dieseldust,

Asa man sa Labangon ug Tabunok? Unya unsa man ang nakita nimo didto  :)
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2927 on: Nov 19, 2010 at 12:20 AM »
^^^The name of the store is South Med. Actually, they have three branches: 1 in Mandaue (I haven't gone there since I don't know the exact address), 1 in Tabunok and 1 in Labangon. The Tabunok branch is located right accros East Visayan Academy while the Labangon branch is located at the back of Dr. Uy Clinic (kanang naa'y Rotunda nga gamay...During my first visit, I saw a large pile of vintage Sansui, Pioneer, Luxman, and Victor  ;) Taga asa diay ka bro?

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2928 on: Nov 19, 2010 at 03:27 AM »
Nangutana lang ko just in case moadto ko sa Cebu.

We used to live in the residential compound of Atlas Mines in Lutopan, Toledo City.

Thanks for the information. Will visit those places.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2929 on: Nov 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM »
Your welcome! Layo man sad diay inyo  ;)

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2930 on: Nov 20, 2010 at 05:47 AM »
buti pa sa Cebu at Davao mukhang tuloy tuloy ang bagsak ng mga vintage amps at speaker...sa pier wala na yata talagang bagsak.  :(
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2931 on: Nov 20, 2010 at 10:54 PM »
buti pa sa Cebu at Davao mukhang tuloy tuloy ang bagsak ng mga vintage amps at speaker...sa pier wala na yata talagang bagsak.  :(

Ganun po ba? Bakit kaya  ???

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2932 on: Nov 21, 2010 at 05:54 AM »
Wala na rin dumadating dito sa Davao. The last good model -- Luxman L550 -- that I got early this year came from a Cebu dealer of Jap audio surplus.

What happened, if I'm not mistaken, was Jap consumers have already adjusted to the government's new electrical standard that was imposed about 3 or 4 years ago. Since yung lumang equipment non-compliant sa new standard, binenta nila or binigay sa recyclers bago na-implement officially yung bagong policy. We benefited from that since the early discards were sent to our ports and sold by local traders at "junk" prices (remember the controversial JPEPA -- zero customs duties for imported recyclable materials from Japan?).

Also, Jap vintage hifi are sold at a premium in Shanghai and other major cities in China, up to 10 times higher than the price we buy those items (high-end hifi sa kanila yan at mas mahal kaysa locally made 'upscale audio' products). Kaya yung mga recyclers sa Japan, sa Chinese traders na nagbenta starting 2007 as per stories from Davao importers/traders.

If you badly need a good Jap hifi gear, the best way is to get it from HifiDo like what American and European audiophiles are doing. But be prepared to pay more. The original Luxman L-550, for instance, would sell at about $1,000 in Hifido before freight charges. I got two units of this from the local suppliers at an average acquisition cost of less than P10k each.

There are bargains though -- an example is Technics SL1200 series, a new edition mint unit could be bought as low as $200. Dito kahit sugatan na ang SL1200 tumatakbo pa ng P20k. Also, cartridges and some audio accessories (mostly useless, but good for bragging) are also cheaper via HifiDo.
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2933 on: Nov 21, 2010 at 08:21 PM »
Wala na rin dumadating dito sa Davao. The last good model -- Luxman L550 -- that I got early this year came from a Cebu dealer of Jap audio surplus.

What happened, if I'm not mistaken, was Jap consumers have already adjusted to the government's new electrical standard that was imposed about 3 or 4 years ago. Since yung lumang equipment non-compliant sa new standard, binenta nila or binigay sa recyclers bago na-implement officially yung bagong policy. We benefited from that since the early discards were sent to our ports and sold by local traders at "junk" prices (remember the controversial JPEPA -- zero customs duties for imported recyclable materials from Japan?).

Also, Jap vintage hifi are sold at a premium in Shanghai and other major cities in China, up to 10 times higher than the price we buy those items (high-end hifi sa kanila yan at mas mahal kaysa locally made 'upscale audio' products). Kaya yung mga recyclers sa Japan, sa Chinese traders na nagbenta starting 2007 as per stories from Davao importers/traders.

If you badly need a good Jap hifi gear, the best way is to get it from HifiDo like what American and European audiophiles are doing. But be prepared to pay more. The original Luxman L-550, for instance, would sell at about $1,000 in Hifido before freight charges. I got two units of this from the local suppliers at an average acquisition cost of less than P10k each.

There are bargains though -- an example is Technics SL1200 series, a new edition mint unit could be bought as low as $200. Dito kahit sugatan na ang SL1200 tumatakbo pa ng P20k. Also, cartridges and some audio accessories (mostly useless, but good for bragging) are also cheaper via HifiDo.

Waaahh! may plano pa namn akong bumili ng receiver  >:(

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2934 on: Nov 22, 2010 at 07:08 AM »
Less problem kung receiver ang gusto mo. Kasi ang Japan receivers naman hindi mo magagamit ang tuner, hanggang 90 Mhz lang ang FM. You have to scout from local ads for receivers issued in US -- kuha lahat ng istasyon. Got one -- MCS 3233 (JC Penney brand) -- last month from a warehouse here that buys used stuff from Goodwill in the US.

Kasing laki at kamukha ng Pioneer/Technics heavyweights pero apa ang loob. About 10 kgs lang pero 19X7 inches. Sa 30 wpc, disente na ang tunog after pairing it with JBL 316 Pro in my living room. Sabi nila gawa raw ito ng Technics or Kenwood, likely inferior parts, and rebadged as 'Modular Component Systems' for JC Penney. At least pwedeng pang-harabas, P2k lang naman.

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« Reply #2935 on: Nov 22, 2010 at 11:58 PM »
Less problem kung receiver ang gusto mo. Kasi ang Japan receivers naman hindi mo magagamit ang tuner, hanggang 90 Mhz lang ang FM. You have to scout from local ads for receivers issued in US -- kuha lahat ng istasyon. Got one -- MCS 3233 (JC Penney brand) -- last month from a warehouse here that buys used stuff from Goodwill in the US.

Kasing laki at kamukha ng Pioneer/Technics heavyweights pero apa ang loob. About 10 kgs lang pero 19X7 inches. Sa 30 wpc, disente na ang tunog after pairing it with JBL 316 Pro in my living room. Sabi nila gawa raw ito ng Technics or Kenwood, likely inferior parts, and rebadged as 'Modular Component Systems' for JC Penney. At least pwedeng pang-harabas, P2k lang naman.



Sir matanong ko lang. D po ba pwedeng i-rechannel ang Japanese receivers?

That's a nice looking receiver. Did you buy that from Davao? ;D

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« Reply #2936 on: Nov 23, 2010 at 06:07 AM »
Pwede mag-rechannel/re-tune ng Japanese receivers/tuners pero hindi ganun kaganda ang labas. Maingay, or hindi pa rin makuha lahat. Malaki ang diprensya sa original 88-108 Mhz na US/Philippine tuner standard. Kaya hindi nagpasok ang mga importers ng maraming Jap receivers dito sa Davao dahil binabalik ng buyers yung mga unang benta. Unlike the amplifiers where buyers don't have much expectations. Basta nakalagay sa likod at least "100 watts" at binabayo yung "200-watt" speakers nila (kailangan daw pala at least doble ang rating ng speakers, sabi nung mga tambay dito  ;D ;D ;D ), okay na.

Yes, the MCS was bought here in Davao. I saw a smaller Superscope receiver (with the label 'Superscope by Marantz' at the back) quoted at P1.5k when I bought the MCS but I was in a hurry and it has no sound when I first tested it. It was gone a few hours later when I returned to the warehouse.
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« Reply #2937 on: Nov 23, 2010 at 01:53 PM »
Pwede mag-rechannel/re-tune ng Japanese receivers/tuners pero hindi ganun kaganda ang labas. Maingay, or hindi pa rin makuha lahat. Malaki ang diprensya sa original 88-108 Mhz na US/Philippine tuner standard. Kaya hindi nagpasok ang mga importers ng maraming Jap receivers dito sa Davao dahil binabalik ng buyers yung mga unang benta. Unlike the amplifiers where buyers don't have much expectations. Basta nakalagay sa likod at least "100 watts" at binabayo yung "200-watt" speakers nila (kailangan daw pala at least doble ang rating ng speakers, sabi nung mga tambay dito  ;D ;D ;D ), okay na.

Yes, the MCS was bought here in Davao. I saw a smaller Superscope receiver (with the label 'Superscope by Marantz' at the back) quoted at P1.5k when I bought the MCS but I was in a hurry and it has no sound when I first tested it. It was gone a few hours later when I returned to the warehouse.


Hmmm..kaya pala wala akong nakikitang receivers dito.  ;D

Yung MCS na reciver nakita ko rin yun sa audiokarma. Sabi nila Kenwood daw may gawa. D ko pa nakita yang model na yan dito. Sana makakajockpot rin ako  ;D

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #2938 on: Nov 27, 2010 at 10:59 AM »
gudpm!!  sa mga master.......... may naka try na ba d2 na mag series ng trans4mer ng surplus amp ex. sansui 907 dalawa ang trans4mer nito iniisip q kc pag series mo ito puede ng isaksak sa 220 volts...

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« Reply #2939 on: Nov 27, 2010 at 03:53 PM »
gudpm!!  sa mga master.......... may naka try na ba d2 na mag series ng trans4mer ng surplus amp ex. sansui 907 dalawa ang trans4mer nito iniisip q kc pag series mo ito puede ng isaksak sa 220 volts...

pwede yan, na try ko na, medyo mas tataas ang rails mo dahil 200 lang ang magiging rating nyang nakaseries....

ang rails mo ay tataas ng factor na 220/200 or 10% higher.......

ang isang hindi maganda dyan ay kapag mas mataas ang power draw ng isang channel, medyo magbabatakan sila......

kung ako ang tatanunging, ipaparewind ko yung mga traffos para outright na 220 volt na rila, nakagawa na ring ako nyan sa isang pioneer na amp......
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