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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3180 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 08:00 PM »
found an amp - sansui AU alpha 555VS,dahil defective, hindi alam presyohan kaya tinatawaran ko ng 500 >:D kasi sira nga, ang issue daw is, it keeps on clipping, may remedyo ba or kaya bang ayusin yung clipping issue  nya?

clipping or nag protect mode ?

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3181 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 08:10 PM »
clipping or nag protect mode ?
di ko sigurado e, tama ka yata sir, protect mode yata ang sabi ng boy kanina, sabi nya, umiilaw yung protect,...ayun, naalala ko, protect nga, he he
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3182 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 08:54 PM »
di ko sigurado e, tama ka yata sir, protect mode yata ang sabi ng boy kanina, sabi nya, umiilaw yung protect,...ayun, naalala ko, protect nga, he he

Ganyan din nangyari sa sansui amp ko, nagproprotect.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3183 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 09:03 PM »
Ganyan din nangyari sa sansui amp ko, nagproprotect.
dinala mo na sa pasig? hehe...
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3184 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM »
dinala mo na sa pasig? hehe...

Yes bro Derick

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3185 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM »
if your handy with the soldering iron, check the power supply boards for leaky caps or caps that not in the right shape.. if not bring it to a qualified technician

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3186 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 09:13 PM »
if your handy with the soldering iron, check the power supply boards for leaky caps or caps that not in the right shape.. if not bring it to a qualified technician

Maraming leaky caps to be replace bro Benjie.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3187 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 09:18 PM »
is that the 907 ?

Maraming leaky caps to be replace bro Benjie.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3188 on: Oct 10, 2012 at 09:42 PM »
Ibig sabihin sirs, may pag asang maayos yung 555 if protect mode lang ang problema?
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3189 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 06:47 AM »
is that the 907 ?


No bro, It's my sansui au-707

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3190 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 06:49 AM »
Ibig sabihin sirs, may pag asang maayos yung 555 if protect mode lang ang problema?

Yes, baka mga leaky caps lang yan like mine.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3191 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 06:59 AM »
thanks sir banesto, check ko caps nya pagbalik ko, may iba pa bang dapat i check by ocular inspection regarding its condition? syempre, di ko sya ite test para kunyari tanggap ko sya na defective para mababa lang ang tawad ko, he he
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3192 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 09:15 AM »
Check the large caps if intact  and no cracks sa bottom, these tend to be on the expensive side.  Check mo na rin sa net if may mga parts na unobtainium or unavailable or expensive to be on the safe side. Some models of output transistors were specially made and are no longer in production, I know sa Pioneer meron unobtanium parts, sa Sansui I am not sure

if nag pro-protect malamang may problem sa power supply, but that does not mean na yung lang ang problem.

IMHO, not unless super cheap or super rare yung item, I would not buy if it does not sound, ok lang yung mga, thumps and pops when you  flick switches or adjust th evolume control as these can be easily fixed.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3193 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 10:25 AM »
Marami pinanggagalingan/sanhi nang nag "protect/clipping", It is possible from main power supply (X-former, E-Cap's, regulator, etc.) - Then Power amp (transistor/IC/Cap's)... Pwede ma-repair yan pero hindi tayo sure kung merun pa avail na parts specially IC's & Transistor's.
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3194 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 11:24 AM »
Marami pinanggagalingan/sanhi nang nag "protect/clipping", It is possible from main power supply (X-former, E-Cap's, regulator, etc.) - Then Power amp (transistor/IC/Cap's)... Pwede ma-repair yan pero hindi tayo sure kung merun pa avail na parts specially IC's & Transistor's.
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3195 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM »
Yes bro Derick

anu sbi? wala bang nabibilihan ng caps?
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3196 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 01:55 PM »
Suyurin mo mula sa Power Amp paatras hanggang sa Pre-amp ng power amp.....Baka yung Trimmer din na nagbabago na ng value....

Kilala yang Sansui ng mga old tech na Sansunog....lol! ;D
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3197 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 04:55 PM »
anu sbi? wala bang nabibilihan ng caps?
May mabibilhan ng caps bro. No problem sa pyesa.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3198 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 05:11 PM »
maraming salamat mga sirs, mukhang bibili rin ako ng isang karton ng medicol a kapag kinuha ko iyon ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3199 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 05:30 PM »
maraming salamat mga sirs, mukhang bibili rin ako ng isang karton ng medicol a kapag kinuha ko iyon ;D ;D ;D
Wag kakalimutan ang isang banig na capsula hehehe.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3200 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 08:11 PM »
it really depends on the price.  if your have a working vintage unit of the same model, sometimes it pays to have a defective unit for spare parts.

maraming salamat mga sirs, mukhang bibili rin ako ng isang karton ng medicol a kapag kinuha ko iyon ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3201 on: Oct 11, 2012 at 08:50 PM »
it really depends on the price.  if your have a working vintage unit of the same model, sometimes it pays to have a defective unit for spare parts.

Totoo yan, yun iba kumukuha ng defective unit dahil lang sa spare parts.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3202 on: Oct 12, 2012 at 05:08 AM »
sana ibigay ng 100 >:D gaya nung TT, i get from them for 100.......... sinturon at karayom na lang ang kulang, kakanta na :D..........
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« Reply #3203 on: Oct 12, 2012 at 05:54 AM »
sana ibigay ng 100 >:D gaya nung TT, i get from them for 100.......... sinturon at karayom na lang ang kulang, kakanta na :D..........
Wow sana ibigay nga.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3204 on: Oct 27, 2012 at 01:47 AM »
yes,, mga bro sansui sa mga tech.. sansunog.. grabe mag sira yan.. kailangan pag nag palit ka ng parts i calibrate pa lalo na yung protec problem.. malimit may detection dc voltge ito sa main amp to out put spkr,, .. para di masunog ang speaker nito.. kina cut nya ang relay papunta sa speaker.. sansui maganda talaga tumunog, malinis pero grabe kung sumira sinusunog ang mga parts.. isa rin to sa dhilan around 80s nadimanda ang sansui comp. gawa ng pti bahay nasunog din.. malapit kase sa kurtina ang unit..habang tumutunog huminto ang music at nkita ng may ari na umaapoy na ang kurtina..matagal na to..di rin po bsta bsta ang repair nto kailangan talaga expert pra sa calibration ng idle curent sa mga out put.. di sya ganun ka simpleng circuit..

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« Reply #3205 on: Oct 27, 2012 at 08:23 AM »
yes,, mga bro sansui sa mga tech.. sansunog.. grabe mag sira yan.. kailangan pag nag palit ka ng parts i calibrate pa lalo na yung protec problem.. malimit may detection dc voltge ito sa main amp to out put spkr,, .. para di masunog ang speaker nito.. kina cut nya ang relay papunta sa speaker.. sansui maganda talaga tumunog, malinis pero grabe kung sumira sinusunog ang mga parts.. isa rin to sa dhilan around 80s nadimanda ang sansui comp. gawa ng pti bahay nasunog din.. malapit kase sa kurtina ang unit..habang tumutunog huminto ang music at nkita ng may ari na umaapoy na ang kurtina..matagal na to..di rin po bsta bsta ang repair nto kailangan talaga expert pra sa calibration ng idle curent sa mga out put.. di sya ganun ka simpleng circuit..


Depende sa modelo yan bro, Yung mga A series na galing Saudi ang sansunog.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3206 on: Oct 27, 2012 at 09:35 PM »
yes tama po, depende sa model like AUD siries.. ;D

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3207 on: Oct 28, 2012 at 06:34 AM »
yes tama po, depende sa model like AUD siries.. ;D

Matagal na akong may mga sansui gears pero up to now di pa naman nasisira spkrs ko. Kelangan lng laging nasa kondisyon ang mga gears.

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3208 on: Oct 29, 2012 at 12:03 AM »
nagkaron din ako ng ganyan..sansunog.. cguro dpa napatyempo ang spkr mo.. kung ma cHEK nyo ang circuit nyan high curent din ang circuit desinged, push pull stage amplifier, dobler pwoer suply.. pag ang electronics componetn nyan ay tumagal ng 10 years isa isa na nag kakaron ng voltage abnormalities, wich is nag kaka leak na ang capacitors, resistor change value at yung bias trimpot nag lose contact at dto sa trimpot nag kakaron ng unbalance dc bias.. sakit yan bro ng sansui...sguro pag vintage na ang amp dapat talaga cgurado ang circuit o wel calibrated,, di naman lage.. bsta yung cguradong di maninira o masunog ang parts.. o dumamay ng stage circuit.. he. he.. kaya nakaktakot din bumili ng vintage kailang handa ka sa gastos sa spare lalo na wala ng nag mamanufacture ng output transistor nyan,, subtitute marami kayalang pag nag init na pumupotuk at lilipad lang ang pera mo.. he he..

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Re: Surplus amps
« Reply #3209 on: Oct 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM »
mern akong vintage din na pioneer a717 80s model nabili ko ito sa seaman.. magandang tumonog after a mont nasira wala akong makitang orig na parts.. pero naka order din ako ang mahal ngalng siningil ako ng service center ng 3.2k rightchan. ang ncra.. ginamitan sya ng osciliscope at pinakita nya sakin ang waveform kung talagang clibrated.. hanggang ngyn gumgana pa rin.. 2 years na..ang circuit protec ng sansui di ganun ka sensitive minsan huli na bumitaw ang speaker protec relay, sunog na bgo sya bumitaw.. bro cguro swerte ka dyan sa amp. mo he he... tagahanga din ako ng sansui  b4....