Topic: Surplus amps

[wanderlust]

mines an au-d907x decade. noticed also that in the binding post area, there is placed on top of the board which is standing perpendicular to the post (i suppose this is the circuit board meant for the post), a fuse, another safety feature i guess. this fuse will probable go first before all the other parts will burn.

btw, the trafo for this amp is not your usual circle shape torriodal trafo, shaped more like square to me.

[sandawa]

sir, kung square ang takip ng transformer mo at medyo mababa - hindi matangkad - pero mabigat, bilog din na toroid yan sa loob. magandang modelo yan huwag mo basta basta pakawalan. pag nagkahirapan sa supply ng high-power integrated amps in the coming month, puwede pang tumakbo yan ng 5-figures lalo na kung bonus time at mataas ang demand. 160wpc RMS yan kung hindi ako nagkakamali.

[wanderlust]

actually sir "for keeps"  na to for me, disposing of this is farthest from my mind now, lalo na at nakakabit pa sa ngayon sa pre-erotica preamp ko. sweettt....

the sticker posted by the people there at the pier was 360 watts around 160 wpc nga sir and yes have known that this is still a torroidal trafo with an enclosure specifically made for there decade edition models ata.

i will try to post the pics of its inside soon sir.

the only problem i had with this are the binding post, actually the basag na yong isa sa speaker A, and it do not accept banana plugs! ill have it replaced within the week though.

[H a n $]

Guys,

Anyone own a Victor integrated?? saw one at the supermarket..

[kid]

did you audition it Master?

[H a n $]

did you audition it Master?

Have not been to the supermarket lately but saw this Victor amps last time we went there to get the cdp.. hmmm plan to setup another 2 channel for our Qc house naman..

Surplus amp + New speaker ( 7k to 10k ) + surplus Cdp..

[kid]

Master,

kala ko HT setup ang gagawin mo sa QC using diamond 9

sayang we didnt listen to it, baka may potential

[akyatbundok]

masta hans, kung ang model ng Victor amp ay AX-921 maganda yan may built-in DAC na K2 interface...... dati marami ako nakikita na AX-911 pero yun 911-model kasi hindi naka-K2 kaya hindi ko na-try, hinihintay ko noon yung 921-model.

[H a n $]

Masta Chief Akyat,

Thanks for the tip YO the MAN sa surplus talaga!!

[H a n $]

Master,

kala ko HT setup ang gagawin mo sa QC using diamond 9

sayang we didnt listen to it, baka may potential

9.2 sana kaso brown type ko senor KID.. tsaka na hati yun budget ko kaya 2 channel na lang muna.

[james16]

9.2 sana kaso brown type ko senor KID.. tsaka na hati yun budget ko kaya 2 channel na lang muna.

ikaw pa, dami kang moolah.... 

[BGA VI]

Hi,

si Koya Hans may bagong precious yan !!! Hehehe !!

[JojoD818]

sir, kung square ang takip ng transformer mo at medyo mababa - hindi matangkad - pero mabigat, bilog din na toroid yan sa loob. magandang modelo yan huwag mo basta basta pakawalan. pag nagkahirapan sa supply ng high-power integrated amps in the coming month, puwede pang tumakbo yan ng 5-figures lalo na kung bonus time at mataas ang demand. 160wpc RMS yan kung hindi ako nagkakamali.

sir pinakawalan sandali ni wanderlust yun Sansui nya at nasa akin, kaso di ko na natiis at binarena ko na! Hahahaha! 

Seriously, I have to replaced the binding post to accept banana plugs, spades, bare wires etc.

All I can say is ang bigat nito! Wahhhh! 

[H a n $]

Hi,

si Koya Hans may bagong precious yan !!! Hehehe !!

Pssst wag ka ingay..  tried it yesterday and hmmmm hmmmm ganda balik rock and disco sounds ko ulit.. hehehehe

[kid]

madami akong rock na CD para sa iyo KOya

[sandawa]

sir pinakawalan sandali ni wanderlust yun Sansui nya at nasa akin, kaso di ko na natiis at binarena ko na! Hahahaha! 
Seriously, I have to replaced the binding post to accept banana plugs, spades, bare wires etc.
All I can say is ang bigat nito! Wahhhh! 

sa Sansui Alpha series malaki na ang binding posts, pati butas, kahit Cavendish banana papasok. maganda sa Sansui, sir, wala nang bagong lumalabas kaya yang mga luma, bound to be collectors' items, lalo na kung well maintained. ang objective ko ngayon lahat ng makita ko dito sa amin na Sansui 907 bibilhin ko. after 10 years, pakakawalan ko (hoping the caps would still work, or else i'll replace them myself).

yung mga nakakuha ng high-powered AU series decades ago, suwerte dahil sa US daw, sabi ng utol ko, mas mataas pa sa original (brand new) price ang bentahan ng mga surplus 40-yr old AUs (rated 80wpc and up). ganun din yung mga surplus Marantz, 60s designed by American founder Saul Marantz. sama na rin yung mga 70s Luxman power amps, when that company pirated Tim de Paravicini (Alchemy, EAR) as designer back in early '70s. Tim left Luxman, I think, during the mid-70s to launch his own high-end brand in England. ano sir, simulan mo na rin? pangatawanan mo na yan!



 

[wanderlust]

i also have a luxman sir, i think its the late 70s model just couldnt recall the model as of the moment, but i think i did post it before when i first had it. though admittedly it needs aesthetic improvements and i seldom use it, i find its feature (selector switch 4ohms to 8ohms) quite nice and would be hard pressed to part with it so easily.

[av_phile1]

Ang daming kong nakitang Sansui AU-something sa pier, last I saw a few months back.  Dapat pala pakyawin na, so my son can dispose of them in 10 years.  How much kaya ang resale value after replacing all the caps? Factoring in exchange and inflation rates?

[sandawa]

yung high-powered Sansui models ang mataas ang demand sa US, hindi yung maliliit. ang dumadating dito sa atin na AU puro low-powered. hanggang 40 watts RMS lang ang nakikita ko dito sa amin, ewan ko diyan sa inyo sa Pier.

i get your point on inflation and i admit mine is not a win-win formula - there's good amount of risk involved. but i'm thinking more on enjoying music from these units, especially if each costs an equivalent of only a few days of work and my passion for collecting does not upset my finances. the nice thing about it is i could dispose these units even after 10 years without much depreciation. 907s are rare even today, by the way.

if prices of Sansui AU premium models even appreciated in US audio market, that could also happen here especially the 907s- it depends on supply and demand. it's not all ears for me. i also factor in economics in this hobby.

[wanderlust]

this is a very intresting if not tempting proposal sir.... buti nalang i already own a 907 series (model), though not an alpha, it is still a hard to find edition. i did saw several alpha models here but had second thoughts on getting it as they are low powered and relatively not well known.

im hoping i could get 1 though.... someday, keep my fingers crossed. 

[wanderlust]

heres the inside of my aud907x decade:

[wanderlust]

and a close-up of its parts:

[sandawa]

hindi toroidal yung transformer niya sir. pero okay lang, yung 907F ko ganyan din. sa anim ko na amps, dalawa lang ang toroidal - Alpha 907 and Accuphase. basta ang alam ko yang amp mo ang top sa commercial model ng Sansui bago sila nag Alpha.

[wanderlust]

thnx for the info sir.......... i do have doubts about this being torroidal, however, i have seen the inside of the 907x (not a decade) and it had a circular trafo... which i presume a torroidal design. maybe the decade isnt.

[glr]

surplus guru,

ok ba marantz pm - 54DS? ilang watts ba ito?   

thanks!

[sandawa]

I'm not an audio guru, pero makiki-sawsaw lang. Sa akin, ang maganda lang sa Marantz 'yung '60s to '70s US-made, solid state or valve. Yung mga Marantz Japan at Marantz/Philips, hindi maayos ang review, mababa ang re-sale value. PM-54 (Japan) should be 50 to 70wpc RMS, pero kung maganda naman ang tunog, type mo, and you think the price is reasonable, okey na yan. Sa newer (Japan) models nila, ang maayos sa integrated amp yung PM-94 and PM-84, dubbed Quarter-A series, kasi automatic A-class ang takbo niya basta 25% lang ng RMS rating ang gamit mo, at malakas sila. On normal listening, basta walang true bass - such as acoustic or electronic organ low, we use no more than 10 wpc continuous even with low-efficiency speakers. Reproducing good clean bass requires at least 100wpc even with high efficiency speakers. Dyan magaling ang toroidal transformer design. Kung PM-74 yang nakita mo, puwede dahil 120wpc RMS ang rating nyan. Warehouse surplus price ng PM-74 dito sa Davao - P3.5K, as is (available two weeks ago). Sa mga surplus shops dito, PM-74 in good condition, P5K.

[wanderlust]

sir sandawa is right, and i wl repeat him here, but i however want to add, a few months back i saw a PM 84  being sold un the buy n sell papers for 8k, its being a surplus thought is what i am uncertain of, as there was no indication to that  effect. there were from time to time other marantz posted like pm 54.

and yes, i am not a surplus guru sir.... 

[glr]

Sandawa & Wanderlust, thanks mga sir!

Sir sandawa bili mo naman ako dyan sa davao..... pwede, ikaw na bahala pumili.

[sandawa]

Gusto ko sana, pero baka mas malugi ka. Una walang warranty ang galing dito. Secondly, yung maayos na surplus amps at least 20 kgs., roughly P1K sa freight charge, tapos baka pagdating diyan pisa na. Mas mabuti pa siguro diyan ka na lang bumili, at least puwede kang mag-habol sa retailer.

Isa pa, Online-based job ako, tambay sa desktop buong araw, hindi basta makalabas except on Saturday. I'm supposed to be in Manila 1st or 2nd week of January but I'll probably bring only two CDPs, naka-kontrata na kay JojoD. Unless he doesn't need those junks to tinker with anymore. Mahirap magdala ng audio equipment, since the well-made and powerful amp units weigh more than 20 kgs., while upscale CDPs at 10 kgs. or more.

[glr]

Gusto ko sana, pero baka mas malugi ka. Una walang warranty ang galing dito. Secondly, yung maayos na surplus amps at least 20 kgs., roughly P1K sa freight charge, tapos baka pagdating diyan pisa na. Mas mabuti pa siguro diyan ka na lang bumili, at least puwede kang mag-habol sa retailer.

Isa pa, Online-based job ako, tambay sa desktop buong araw, hindi basta makalabas except on Saturday. I'm supposed to be in Manila 1st or 2nd week of January but I'll probably bring only two CDPs, naka-kontrata na kay JojoD. Unless he doesn't need those junks to tinker with anymore. Mahirap magdala ng audio equipment, since the well-made and powerful amp units weigh more than 20 kgs., while upscale CDPs at 10 kgs. or more.

oo nga no..... sige sir hanap na lang ako dito. thanks anyway.

btw ano recommended nyu for surplus amp?