Topic: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings

[jjlovemusic]

Islam is the youngest.

And has the same roots with Abraham.

Sorry, I meant the roots where it was founded on was older than Christ. Abraham was older than Christ, and we cannot say that Abraham and the older prophets was already a Christians.

Sige one of the "oldest+enduring believers" of God nalang pala 

[Nelson de Leon]

Sorry, I meant the roots where it was founded on was older than Christ. Abraham was older than Christ, and we cannot say that Abraham and the older prophets was already a Christians.

Sige one of the "oldest+enduring believers" of God nalang pala 

They cannot be called christians before Christ was born but are already christians because they already had faith in the upcoming messiah. 

[jjlovemusic]

They cannot be called christians before Christ was born but are already christians because they already had faith in the upcoming messiah. 

I consider him also as a Christian. 
Can Abraham be considered as a Muslim also? Or any other religion that's not based on Christ if there Bible (or version of it) tells them that Abraham is one of them?

I also have faith in the Divine, master nel, but not in men. Kaya manalo o matalo, kay Christ pa din ako 

[SiCkBoY]

I wonder about those that are recently engaged na isang Iglesia and the other is from another faith.  After this display by the Iglesia faithful, may mga kasalan kaya na di matutuloy because ayaw na magpa convert nung isa?

[pTrader]

I wonder about those that are recently engaged na isang Iglesia and the other is from another faith.  After this display by the Iglesia faithful, may mga kasalan kaya na di matutuloy because ayaw na magpa convert nung isa?

civil wedding sagot diyan..

[SiCkBoY]

civil wedding sagot diyan..

Ang alam ko, hindi papayag ang Iglesia dyan.  At hindi rin magpapatalo.

[deist]

Abraham is the first proponent of Judaism, religion of Christ.

To get an idea how old the major religions are, pls see the graph below:



Left pane indicates the number of years in existence.

I consider him also as a Christian. 
Can Abraham be considered as a Muslim also? Or any other religion that's not based on Christ if there Bible (or version of it) tells them that Abraham is one of them?

I also have faith in the Divine, master nel, but not in men. Kaya manalo o matalo, kay Christ pa din ako 

[Nelson de Leon]

I consider him also as a Christian. 
Can Abraham be considered as a Muslim also? Or any other religion that's not based on Christ if there Bible (or version of it) tells them that Abraham is one of them?

Yes pero from thier point of view. 

[pTrader]

Ang alam ko, hindi papayag ang Iglesia dyan.  At hindi rin magpapatalo.

Kaya nga itinitiwalag ng ibang INC  ang sarili  nila para makasama yung mahal nila.

[jjlovemusic]

San yung Illuminati?   

[Nelson de Leon]

San yung Illuminati?   

Sa SM North may Illuminati pa. Ang gaganda ng mga ilaw kaso mahal. Haha!

[jjlovemusic]

Yes pero from thier point of view. 

Yup. Let's leave it at that 

Sa SM North may Illuminati pa. Ang gaganda ng mga ilaw kaso mahal. Haha!

Meron din malapit samin

BTT.
Surely that a religion was built on good faith, but what about the condition of the current leaders of INC? Is there intention still pure? Have we ever considered that we might be supporting the wrong side?
Just something to ponder on.
Only God knows... hu das not pay 

[CoolTOYZPH]

Still hoping and waiting for INC leader Eduardo V. Manalo to speak about the INC activity.

[tony]

kay Christ pa din ako 

ako rin....kaya lang sa dami ng nagsasabing kay Kristo sila, sino kayang Kristo ang tinutukoy nila? kung sa buhay naman nila walang makitang palatandaan ni Kristo...puro daldal lang at debate ang gusto nila....

[pTrader]

Still hoping and waiting for INC leader Eduardo V. Manalo to speak about the INC activity.

malabo ata ito, they will drag their members to road for rally  to protect themselves(INC leaders)
 as  what they did in ESDA the last time. 

[pTrader]

ako rin....kaya lang sa dami ng nagsasabing kay Kristo sila, sino kayang Kristo ang tinutukoy nila? kung sa buhay naman nila walang makitang palatandaan ni Kristo...puro daldal lang at debate ang gusto nila....

yup,  debate at pag na kokorner na i-di-divert kung saan saan gaya ng  Edsa, yuung  issue ng illegal detention, i-divert ba  sa separation  of  church and state, saf44 and etc..

pasensya na  sa mga INC  dito na matinong mag-isip, speaking from experience lang..

[dpogs]

Still hoping and waiting for INC leader Eduardo V. Manalo to speak about the INC activity.

Di kaya mala puppet na lang to... Hawak ng Sangunian.

[CoolTOYZPH]

At the least it will provide an official rationale for the INC activity.
Hopefully it will reveal what some members have mentioned but will not share categorically.

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Di kaya mala puppet na lang to... Hawak ng Sangunian.

[praktikal]

Ang alam ko, hindi papayag ang Iglesia dyan.  At hindi rin magpapatalo.

mahal mo ang isang anak ng Diyos pero DAPAT INC din sya... matinding sakripisyo. so, kung wala kang makitang kapwa INC hanap ka nalang ng willing talikuran ang kanyang nakagisnang relihiyon.

ano nga ba ang proseso para sa mga gustong lumabas kung sakaling manaig ang puso dahil ayaw magpa convert ng kasintahang hindi INC?

[bartender]

Di kaya mala puppet na lang to... Hawak ng Sangunian.

Eto din naisip ko. Kaya nga tinatanong ko kung sino ang nagalagay sa poder sa Executive Minister at sa mga myembro ng Sanggunian.

[disturbed]

mahal mo ang isang anak ng Diyos pero DAPAT INC din sya... matinding sakripisyo. so, kung wala kang makitang kapwa INC hanap ka nalang ng willing talikuran ang kanyang nakagisnang relihiyon.

ano nga ba ang proseso para sa mga gustong lumabas kung sakaling manaig ang puso dahil ayaw magpa convert ng kasintahang hindi INC?

alam ko nasagot na ito before dito..pwede ka ata mag submit ng letter..forgot kung ano tawag dun sa type ng letter..pero pwede sya gawin

[SiCkBoY]

Yeah, and may exit interview. Nothing out of the ordinary.

[rochie]

Yeah, and may exit interview. Nothing out of the ordinary.

parang sa work lang,ayaw mo na pasa ka resignation, tapos kakausapin ka supervisor mo kung bakit ka aalis,hingin side mo at sasagutin kung may mga katanungan na hindi maintindihan, tapos pirma na umaalis ka na. pero very rare lang ako nakakaencounter ng ganyan mas madalas eh hindi na lang sasamba or bigla na lang mawawala, yung iba naman mag-papakasal na lang sa hindi din INC ayun mababalitaan na lang natiwalag na.

[pTrader]

Leaving the INC

And so my dilemma goes... I need advice about leaving this church even if the repercussions would be to be ultimately shunned by my whole clan, all my INC friends and worse, to be kicked out of the house and to be forced to live alone. I am sorry for the long letter. I wish for anonymity for the situation I am in… hope you understand

Read: http://www.rappler.com/life-and-style/relationships/90389-two-pronged-iglesia-ni-cristo-leave-advice

[pTrader]

Bloc-Voting or Chuch "Self Interest"

We show power in numbers through bloc-voting and secure key positions in the government in order to protect the interests of the church, never mind whether it’s a corrupt official as long as the church is secured. This is why INC was indifferent during the People Power I despite all the atrocious harm done towards the Filipino people - all because we allied with former president Ferdinand Marcos, the dictator.

source: http://www.rappler.com/move-ph/ispeak/66102-iglesia-ni-cristo-mentality-exclusivity

[SiCkBoY]

Leaving the INC
Read: http://www.rappler.com/life-and-style/relationships/90389-two-pronged-iglesia-ni-cristo-leave-advice

Parang mali no? If one leaves INC, he will be shunned by his whole clan, friends, etc.

Pupunta na nga sya sa impiyerno eh, while his whole clan and INC friends eh magkikita kita pa sa langit. Dapat nga they should spend more time with him habang nabubuhay pa sa mundong ibabaw.

[tony]

^he can leave the church and not severe his ties to Jesus....
it is not the church that will save him.....
conscience will dictate, not the church...
we don't obey another men, we only obey Jesus....

Jesus walked this earth with only the cloth on his back....
and as followers of Jesus Christ, we should store riches in heaven instead,
not here on earth, where those riches can be stolen, burned or rust away...

[disturbed]

Parang mali no? If one leaves INC, he will be shunned by his whole clan, friends, etc.

Pupunta na nga sya sa impiyerno eh, while his whole clan and INC friends eh magkikita kita pa sa langit. Dapat nga they should spend more time with him habang nabubuhay pa sa mundong ibabaw.

dito hindi ako sure ha other members can chime in

tingin ko ung mga umabot sa ganyan is ung me nilabag na doctrines at nahuli like nakabuntis na hindi INC

alam ko hindi naman ni aannounce ung mga names nung mga nawala na lang bigla at hindi sumasamba, ung mga umalis ng maayos ganun..

pra sa akin malaki kasalanan mo kung name mo eh iannounce sa church at sabihin na hindi ka na din pwedeng kausapin..yan ung thinking ko

[pTrader]

Parang mali no? If one leaves INC, he will be shunned by his whole clan, friends, etc.

Pupunta na nga sya sa impiyerno eh, while his whole clan and INC friends eh magkikita kita pa sa langit. Dapat nga they should spend more time with him habang nabubuhay pa sa mundong ibabaw.

well,  inde mali sir, may mga friends ako ganyan ang na-experienced. 

[sovrain]

Tindi nga naman pala. Yung pamilya ng officemate ko e, magkakaiba ang religion, pero, as I can see it, very close naman sila. May RC, UCCP, at shield of victory.... may protestant pa yata...