Author Topic: Panasonic Plasma 2012 (Read 72775 times)

barrister · « **Reply #120 on:** Jun 04, 2012 at 01:44 PM »

Quote from: barrister on May 16, 2012 at 06:26 PM

The Panasonic Singapore website recently posted a few 2012 plasma models. This is an indication that the 2012 plasmas will be arriving here sometime soon, hopefully in a few months.

50UT50; 50XT50; 42XT50; 50X50: ...

Quote from: acronis on May 17, 2012 at 05:37 PM

aw.... no ST50

Meron na ngayon:

- ST50 http://www.panasonic.com.sg/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/vieraplasmatv/sseries
- VT50 http://www.panasonic.com.sg/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/vieraplasmatv/vseries

barrister · « **Reply #121 on:** Jun 04, 2012 at 08:47 PM »

Nobody knows for sure what Panny Plasma's "2500Hz Focused Field Drive" means. It's Panny trade secret, and they've never clarified what it really is.

So here's a good attempt at an explanation:

Panasonic 2012 Plasma - 2500Hz FFD Explanation Attempt

http://paytherant.tumblr.com/post/20057368974/panasonic-2012-plasma-2500hz-ffd-explanation-attempt

Clondalkin · « **Reply #122 on:** Jul 06, 2012 at 09:47 AM »

Any indication as to when the 50 series will be made available in Manila? Maski ST man lang but better kung GT sana. Kahit hindi na VT

Hi Barrister. Would you like to import a 50 with me? Seriously Tsip.

Regards

barrister · « **Reply #123 on:** Jul 06, 2012 at 10:44 PM »

No imports for me. Takot ako sa warranty problems e.

Nobody knows when the 50 series will become available in Pinas. Not even Panasonic Phil. itself knows.

Clondalkin · « **Reply #124 on:** Jul 07, 2012 at 12:14 PM »

What's the feedback as regards the glossiness/glare of the ST50 compared to the GT50 and VT50? (not available in Tokyo).

For reference, it was like this in 2011 (left to right ST30, VT30, GT30). That's my handsome arm reflected on the ST and a Japanese miron

But at least the ST it's not a mirror-like as the UT and XT series.

barrister · « **Reply #125 on:** Jul 07, 2012 at 04:15 PM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Jul 07, 2012 at 12:14 PM

What's the feedback as regards the glossiness/glare of the ST50 compared to the GT50 and VT50? (not available in Tokyo).

For reference, it was like this in 2011 (left to right ST30, VT30, GT30). That's my handsome arm reflected on the ST and a Japanese miron But at least the ST it's not a mirror-like as the UT and XT series.

Foreign forum discussions lang ang basis ko. Based on those discussions:

ST50, GT50 and VT50 all have the same louvre filter. So they should all look the same.

As for the UT50, most say that it is plain glass, but some say it has an ordinary filter (not the new louvre filter). They all say that all 2012 models lower than UT50 have plain, unfiltered glass.

For the 2011 series, the ST30, GT30 and VT30 all have the 2011 louvre filter; however, the ST30 has a light filter, the GT30 has a medium filter, and the VT30 has a heavy filter.

A filter interferes with the picture output, so if you have a dark room, it's better to have no filter. Filters are included only on higher-end models to provide a marketing "differentiation" between model series. But a user who can afford a higher-end model is usually a user with a light-controlled TV room, and thus would be better off without a filter. However, to get a model without a filter, he would have to get a lower-end model. On the other hand, if the user can only afford a lower-end model, he will get a lower-end unit that doesn't have a filter. However, since his usual viewing area is bright, then he's a user who needs a filter. But he can't afford a higher-end model with a filter.

And that's the catch-22 of the Panny filters.

james_hunt · « **Reply #126 on:** Jul 07, 2012 at 09:42 PM »

A little bit OT, are panasonic plasmas more durable than the ones from samsung and LG? I have no problems with the picture quality of the 3 brands. It will all boil down to which company can provide better customer service, and durability. Thanks in advance

skooter · « **Reply #127 on:** Jul 11, 2012 at 11:49 AM »

So p50st30 is a 2011 model pala and knowing the st30 50 incher price tag at Sns. I was wondering how much is the ST50 current price at Sns?

barrister · « **Reply #128 on:** Jul 11, 2012 at 01:42 PM »

I trust SnS to always give us a fair price.

However, the really big issue about the ST30 is not the price tag, but the green blob:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1545348-green-tinge-fault-panasonic-vt30-gt30-st30-part-2-a.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdtG-WOo7g

barrister · « **Reply #129 on:** Jul 11, 2012 at 02:33 PM »

Panasonic 2012 plasma 42X50 and 50X50 now available at Anson's Makati in front of Landmark.

Quote from: usbslave on Jul 11, 2012 at 01:33 PM

Anson's Makati in front of Landmark. Manufacturing date is May2012. The price of 42X50 is 35k less 3,500 if cash.

50X50 is P50K; less P5K for cash.

usbslave · « **Reply #130 on:** Jul 11, 2012 at 02:49 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jul 11, 2012 at 02:33 PM

Panasonic 2012 plasma 42X50 and 50X50 now available at Anson's Makati in front of Landmark.

50X50 is P50K; less P5K for cash.

Kay Sir Vic kaya, magkano to?
Paging Sir VIC!

whirlpool · « **Reply #131 on:** Jul 11, 2012 at 10:22 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jul 11, 2012 at 02:33 PM

Panasonic 2012 plasma 42X50 and 50X50 now available at Anson's Makati in front of Landmark.

50X50 is P50K; less P5K for cash.

Listening in Style posted an advertisement in PDI last week of June. Price of p42x50 is edit 25,995. I'm not sure if they already have the stocks.

Interested din po ako sa p50ut50. Kelan kaya available sa favorite nearest tv store natin ito like SNS, AVX...

skooter · « **Reply #132 on:** Jul 11, 2012 at 10:47 PM »

50st50 how much po?

whirlpool · « **Reply #133 on:** Jul 11, 2012 at 11:12 PM »

Quote from: skooter on Jul 11, 2012 at 10:47 PM

50st50 how much po?

42x50 (P25,995) is the only 2012 model posted is the advertisement.

barrister · « **Reply #134 on:** Jul 14, 2012 at 04:58 PM »

I just saw the Panny plasma 50X50 (lowest-end 2012 model, 720p) at Abenson's Makati this afternoon.

I previoulsy posted that the 42X50 and 50X50 are both available at Anson's Makati in front of Landmark. Well, I just found out that that isn't entirely true ---- they have one 50X50 demo unit on display, but no 42X50 on display; you can buy the 2 models, but they're on order-basis only, since they they don't have any stock.

Unfortunately, the resolution is unacceptable to me.

My Panny plasma 50C10 (purchased Jan. 2009) has a native resolution of 1366 x 768, and the native pixels are not visible to me at a distance greater than 5 feet.

On the other hand, the 50X50 has a native resolution of 1024 x768. I was expecting the resolution difference to be insignificant ---- NOT.

On the 50X50, I can see the native pixels from a distance of about 7+ feet. At 10 feet away (my home viewing distance), the picture still has portions that are slightly jagged. At 5 feet away, forget about it.

I noticed that the 50X50 has a physical pixel structure that's very different from my present TV. Maybe the difference in pixel structures results in a picture that still isn't clean enough even at a 10 foot distance.

The 50X50 was playing some Panasonic demo material. According to the sales rep, content resolution was 1080p, and it looked like 1080p content, judging from the Panny LCDs nearby playing the same material.

I was wearing my trifocal eyeglasses while looking at the 50X50. I'm far-sighted without glasses, but I assure you, once my glasses are on, my vision is perfect.

I can't buy this TV at any price, since it's much worse than my present TV. So it's back to waiting for the 50UT50 for me.

ninjababez® · « **Reply #135 on:** Jul 15, 2012 at 04:44 AM »

thats a bummer bro barrister. baka kaya mura sya cause of the panel/resolution.

halvert · « **Reply #136 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 01:23 PM »

to barrister, merong ad sa inquirer today page a19 na ang Listening in Style daw meron ng Panasonic 65st50, gt50 at vt50. Ewan lang kung totoo.

barrister · « **Reply #137 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 06:17 PM »

Quote from: halvert on Jul 16, 2012 at 01:23 PM

to barrister, merong ad sa inquirer today page a19 na ang Listening in Style daw meron ng Panasonic 65st50, gt50 at vt50. Ewan lang kung totoo.

Thanks for the heads-up!

50 inch lang ako, sobrang gastos pag 65. Kung wala pang 50" na ST50, I'm sure malapit nang magkaroon.

jerkzerocool · « **Reply #138 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 08:25 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jul 14, 2012 at 04:58 PM

I just saw the Panny plasma 50X50 (lowest-end 2012 model, 720p) at Abenson's Makati this afternoon.

I previoulsy posted that the 42X50 and 50X50 are both available at Anson's Makati in front of Landmark. Well, I just found out that that isn't entirely true ---- they have one 50X50 demo unit on display, but no 42X50 on display; you can buy the 2 models, but they're on order-basis only, since they they don't have any stock.

Unfortunately, the resolution is unacceptable to me.

My Panny plasma 50C10 (purchased Jan. 2009) has a native resolution of 1366 x 768, and the native pixels are not visible to me at a distance greater than 5 feet.

On the other hand, the 50X50 has a native resolution of 1024 x768. I was expecting the resolution difference to be insignificant ---- NOT.

On the 50X50, I can see the native pixels from a distance of about 7+ feet. At 10 feet away (my home viewing distance), the picture still has portions that are slightly jagged. At 5 feet away, forget about it.

I noticed that the 50X50 has a physical pixel structure that's very different from my present TV. Maybe the difference in pixel structures results in a picture that still isn't clean enough even at a 10 foot distance.

The 50X50 was playing some Panasonic demo material. According to the sales rep, content resolution was 1080p, and it looked like 1080p content, judging from the Panny LCDs nearby playing the same material.

I was wearing my trifocal eyeglasses while looking at the 50X50. I'm far-sighted without glasses, but I assure you, once my glasses are on, my vision is perfect.

I can't buy this TV at any price, since it's much worse than my present TV. So it's back to waiting for the 50UT50 for me.

Sir diba same lang ng resolution c10 and x50 which is 1024 x768? Baka naman sa settings lang ng tv kaya hindi maganda output? 2011 models and up is not prone to IR unlike the plasmas in the previous years and I think X50 has a better contrast ratio than c10. X50 has a 3.5 million is to 1 while c10 is 2 million is to 1 so on dark scenes X50 should perform better.

skooter · « **Reply #139 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 09:26 PM »

Quote from: halvert on Jul 16, 2012 at 01:23 PM

to barrister, merong ad sa inquirer today page a19 na ang Listening in Style daw meron ng Panasonic 65st50, gt50 at vt50. Ewan lang kung totoo.

wow this so good to hear about it, just a little more waiting time for dat 50st50

, i just hope its price tag will not be more than 85k, threshold level ko yan hehehe....

barrister · « **Reply #140 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 09:37 PM »

Quote from: jerkzerocool on Jul 16, 2012 at 08:25 PM

Sir diba same lang ng resolution c10 and x50 which is 1024 x768?

Which C10, 42 or 50?

42C10 is 1024 x 768. 50C10 is 1366 x 768.

50C10 specs: Number of Pixels :1,049,088 (1366 x 768) pixels

http://www.world-import.com/Panasonic_TH-P50C10_Multi_System_Plasma_TV.htm

50" Panny plasmas have long been 1366 x 768. That's a WXGA resolution (16 x 9). After the C10 series, 50 inchers were given a 1024 x 768 resolution, the same as the 42 inchers, which is an XGA resolution (4:3).

Quote from: jerkzerocool on Jul 16, 2012 at 08:25 PM

Baka naman sa settings lang ng tv kaya hindi maganda output? 2011 models and up is not prone to IR unlike the plasmas in the previous years and I think X50 has a better contrast ratio than c10. X50 has a 3.5 million is to 1 while c10 is 2 million is to 1 so on dark scenes X50 should perform better.

- Settings will not change the pixel structure. The native physical pixel on the 50X50 has thick left and right walls, very different from the 50C10.

- There is no appreciable improvement in IR performance from 2008 to 2012. This is actually much worse than my 2006 model 42" Japan-made plasma, which had no IR whatsoever.

- Yes, it's true that the new plasmas have improved contrast ratios. That's the spec that has had true improvement every year.

jerkzerocool · « **Reply #141 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 09:59 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jul 16, 2012 at 09:37 PM

Which C10, 42 or 50?

42C10 is 1024 x 768. 50C10 is 1366 x 768.

50C10 specs: Number of Pixels :1,049,088 (1366 x 768) pixels

http://www.world-import.com/Panasonic_TH-P50C10_Multi_System_Plasma_TV.htm

50" Panny plasmas have long been 1366 x 768. That's a WXGA resolution (16 x 9). After the C10 series, 50 inchers were given a 1024 x 768 resolution, the same as the 42 inchers, which is an XGA resolution (4:3).

- Settings will not change the pixel structure. The native physical pixel on the 50X50 has thick left and right walls, very different from the 50C10.

- There is no appreciable improvemnt in IR performance from 2008 to 2012. This is actually much worse than my 2006 model 42" Japan-made plasma, which had no IR whatsoever.

- Yes, it's true that the new Plasmas have improved contrast ratios. That's the spec that has had true improvement every year.

Ah ganon ba sir models kasi now same ng resolution yung 42 and 50 inch, and hindi na standard 720p resolution ng mga hd ready ngayon so wala na nga reason sir to go for x50. Better wait for the ut50 or st50 nga para full hd na. Ok naman IR performance nung st30 kahit sa first 100 hours watch ako movies with black bars and no IR so far. Pero alam ko yung x20 sabi nung friend ko may IR issue pero nawawala din naman.

barrister · « **Reply #142 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM »

Quote from: jerkzerocool on Jul 16, 2012 at 09:59 PM

Ah ganon ba sir models kasi now same ng resolution yung 42 and 50 inch, and hindi na standard 720p resolution ng mga hd ready ngayon so wala na nga reason sir to go for x50.

Wala naman talagang kahit anong TV na may exactly 720p horizontal resolution. Shorthand lang ang "720p" sa native panel resolution para hindi confusing. Ang eksaktong 720p ay yung video content, hindi yung panel native resolution. Para hindi magulo, 720p na rin ang tawag sa panel resolution.

Yung 50C10 ko, malinis talaga sa 10 feet viewing distance ko. Up to 5 feet nga, maganda pa rin. Ang 50X10, 10 feet na, magaspang pa rin.

Maybe the 42X10 will perform better kasi 1024 x 768 din, pero mas maliit ang pixels kasi mas maliit ang panel size. Wala lang 42X10 sa Anson's display e, kaya hindi ko pa na eyeball. Kaya lang, hindi ako masisiyahan sa 42" at 10 feet, kaya 1080p na talaga ang next TV ko.

jerkzerocool · « **Reply #143 on:** Jul 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jul 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Wala naman talagang kahit anong TV na may exactly 720p horizontal resolution. Shorthand lang ang "720p" sa native panel resolution para hindi confusing. Ang eksaktong 720p ay yung video content, hindi yung panel native resolution. Para hindi magulo, 720p na rin ang tawag sa panel resolution.

Yung 50C10 ko, malinis talaga sa 10 feet viewing distance ko. Up to 5 feet nga, maganda pa rin. Ang 50X10, 10 feet na, magaspang pa rin.

Maybe the 42X10 will perfrom better kasi 1024 x 768 din, pero mas maliit ang pixels kasi mas maliit ang panel size. Wala lang 42X10 sa Anson's display e, kaya hindi ko pa na eyeball. Kaya lang, hindi ako masisiyahan sa 42" at 10 feet, kaya 1080p na talaga ang next TV ko.

Mejo malayo nga viewing distance mo sir liliit nga 42 inches dun hehe, sakin sakto lang 42 kasi 5 to 6 feet lang viewing distance ko eh pero hopefully next buy ko 50 inches na pero exclusive lang for movies para tipid kuryente.

wenc yrich · « **Reply #144 on:** Jul 17, 2012 at 10:32 AM »

Quote from: halvert on Jul 16, 2012 at 01:23 PM

to barrister, merong ad sa inquirer today page a19 na ang Listening in Style daw meron ng Panasonic 65st50, gt50 at vt50. Ewan lang kung totoo.

How much kaya ang 65vt50?

barrister · « **Reply #145 on:** Jul 17, 2012 at 04:16 PM »

I called Listening in Style in Shang. 65" and 42" lang daw ang 2012 panny plasmas available.

50" models expected to arrive next month. No prices yet.

skooter · « **Reply #146 on:** Jul 17, 2012 at 04:40 PM »

i suppose there's no 42 inch. for an st50 right? would be nice if they could give us an approximate price for 50ST50 in their store.

barrister · « **Reply #147 on:** Jul 17, 2012 at 05:04 PM »

I try not to think about it. Saves me the aggravation ...

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Panasonic Philippines website now has 42X50S (720p), 50X50S (720p), and 65ST50S (1080p):

http://www.panasonic.com.ph/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/0/plasmatv
http://www.panasonic.com.ph/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/0/stseries

They are all "S" series. "S" is a country code that means "Singapore." I'm sure Panny Phil. would have brought in the 50" 1080p if it was up to them, so if they don't have it, then its unavailability must have been beyond their control.

wenc yrich · « **Reply #148 on:** Jul 18, 2012 at 06:17 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:16 PM

I called Listening in Style in Shang. 65" and 42" lang daw ang 2012 panny plasmas available.

50" models expected to arrive next month. No prices yet.

sir barrister meron ka no. ng Listening in Style? interested ako sa 65vt5o..

Stagea · « **Reply #149 on:** Jul 18, 2012 at 06:56 AM »

Panasonic plans to move away from CE.
http://www.whathifi.com/blog/panasonic-chairman-plans-company-shift-away-from-tvs-%E2%80%93-and-consumer-electronics-but-is-it-too-l