Topic: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD

[pchin]

Yeah as with any new technology, bounds to have bugs in the initial stage & lots of problem. Give it a few years to mature... 

[barrid]

Noticed that all the Blu-ray disc at Walmart  doesn't have a Special Features. But cost below $20. I'll stay with DVD for now. 

[pchin]

I 2nd that 

[barrister]

Samsung:  First Blu-ray player

http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=5880



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You've heard of HVD's (holographic versatile disc) 3.9 Terabyte capacity?  Wala 'yan sa lolo ko.

The Hyper CD, which has a 10 Terabyte capacity, is patented in 21 countries including the USA, Canada and Japan.

http://www.dntb.ro/users/frdbuc/hyper-cdrom/hyper.htm

http://www.playfuls.com/news_03165_Blu_Ray_and_HD_DVD_beaten_by_the_Hyper_CD.html

[barracuda]

Interesting read....

http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/10reasonsHDDVDsfailed.php

[Dracula]

I've learned my lesson from the whole SACD and DVD-Audio experience I'm going to hold off getting a blu ray player until its already an established format

[av_phile1]

I've opined in another thread that the video industry seems to repeating the mistakes of the audio industry.  This is the battle royale between SACD and DVD-A that somehow never made a dent on the CD's position as the dominant audio format.   Audioholics seems to get it right - a format war, very few titles,  and the absence of any timebound gameplan from recording studios to phase out the old format ensured both DVD-A and SACD can only muster a small niche market.    In fact, in the age of internet downloadable audio streams, the emergence of MP3 over the last few years seems to indicate it is now head to head with CD as the dominant audio format and could be the one to overtake CD. 

The same could happen to HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.  With such underwhelming debuts from either camps, it will be a long steep climb for either to phase-out the very popular DVD format.  The only way to phase out DVD is for the studios to declare no more new titles in DVD format - something I doubt they will do.

[barrister]

Blu-ray: Can it Survive?
Evan Powell
July 14, 2006

Excerpts:

"... The HD-DVD image was much higher in contrast and showed beautiful detail in high resolution that was completely lost in the DVD. It was smoother, cleaner, and much more three-dimensional. The standard DVD looked surprisingly dull and grainy in comparison. ...


"The Blu-ray launch delivered a rude surprise—picture quality that is moderately better than that available on standard DVD, but not rising to the level of anything one could call high definition. ... "


Full text:  http://www.projectorcentral.com/blu-ray_2.htm

[av_phile1]

Avforums are also trouncing on the poor performance of the blu-ray debut.  It seeems SONY is heading the same road as it did with its Beta format.  Too early to tell?   Maybe. 

But whichever wins, I have doubts HD will ever supplant regular DVDs.  Firstly, the reluctance and outright refusal of major brands to licence the technology to CHINA will gurantee it will never approach the price levels of DVD players at this time.  And with no pirated titles (unless another eropean kid hacks into it)  the regular ttiles will be priced too high for the ordinary juan.   Not to mention the HD displays which I doubt would even go sub-50T in the local market in the next 5 years.   Further ensuring that HD will remain a niche player for the moneyed class. 

[pchin]

Totally agree with av_phile1 

[barrid]

Seems to me that these new technologies are not DVD-BUSTERS after all. 

[av_phile1]

True.  But I just might have to eat my own words later than sooner     And I really wouldn't mind. 

Toshiba has just licensed HD-DVD technology to a number of manufacturers in China.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/10/20/business/dvd.php

This is direct contrast with the BR camp that considers this a threat to their profits and R&D investments.   I am glad Toshibia did what is best for consumers, not for the business.  But in the long run, with a sizeable market on their belt and with HD-DVD winning the format war, it will certainly to their benefit.  Soon, we can expect lost cost HD players to flood the world as China did for DVD players.  It probably won't be as cheap as those generic DVD players, because hardware royalties would now be paid to Toshiba.  But at least, it should be within reach of middle income wage earners not only here but everywhere.   

[MAtZTER]

True.  But I just might have to eat my own words later than sooner     And I really wouldn't mind. 

Toshiba has just licensed HD-DVD technology to a number of manufacturers in China.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/10/20/business/dvd.php

This is direct contrast with the BR camp that considers this a threat to their profits and R&D investments.   I am glad Toshibia did what is best for consumers, not for the business.  But in the long run, with a sizeable market on their belt and with HD-DVD winning the format war, it will certainly to their benefit.  Soon, we can expect lost cost HD players to flood the world as China did for DVD players.  It probably won't be as cheap as those generic DVD players, because hardware royalties would now be paid to Toshiba.  But at least, it should be within reach of middle income wage earners not only here but everywhere.   

Hmm , its not surprising for Sony to think this way. Good move for Toshiba. good for us consumers.

[barrister]

The case of the Terminator trilogy is truly absurd.  If you want it in Hi-Def, you'll need both a Blu-Ray player AND an HD-DVD player.  Terminator 1 & 2 are in Blu-Ray format; Terminator 3 is in HD-DVD format.   

Man, what a mess!

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Amusing article:

Swanni's 2006 'HD Horribles'  http://www.tvpredictions.com/fall2006hd092706.htm

Swanni's 2006 'HD Honeys'    http://www.tvpredictions.com/fallparttwo092706.htm

[sandbox51ph]

Reading of this thread, Rise of the Blue rays na! hehe...alot of our fellow Pinoydvd members has upgraded to he next level...

[viper]

In fact, in the age of internet downloadable audio streams, the emergence of MP3 over the last few years seems to indicate it is now head to head with CD as the dominant audio format and could be the one to overtake CD. 

The same could happen to HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.  With such underwhelming debuts from either camps, it will be a long steep climb for either to phase-out the very popular DVD format.  The only way to phase out DVD is for the studios to declare no more new titles in DVD format - something I doubt they will do.

How prophetic. Disc based movies are being sidelined by movies and shows available online and at 4k quality

[DViant]

How prophetic. Disc based movies are being sidelined by movies and shows available online and at 4k quality

Applicable on the high end and non-technophobe. For people who are scared of technology released since 2008 then discs still rule.

I am rather thankful the last DVD I bought was the Two Towers Extended Edition way back in 2003. I wouldnt have bought a new TV if it weren't for Netflix's 4K streams.

Although compression and bitrate of streaming content diminishes image quality vs disc.