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Re: newbie query
« Reply #690 on: Mar 24, 2009 at 10:57 AM »
I am enjoying tremendously what I have

why bother changing anything? with those equipment i'll also be enjoying tremendously!  ;)
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Re: newbie query
« Reply #691 on: Mar 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM »
From your post I read, I am happy but can I get more performance from my B&W ?

I feel the same way with Usher Speakers driven by a 30 watt amp  ;D.. if theres extra funds why not upgrade to a pre-power combo. Ask your dealer if you home demo a larger AVR to compare with your current setup.
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Re: newbie query
« Reply #692 on: Mar 24, 2009 at 04:18 PM »
if you're living in the metro then home audition is the best talaga para makumpara mo ng husto. kung dadalhin mo namn ang speakers mo sa shop ok din kaso mas ok kung sa room mo mismo. may hinahanap ka bang specific na tunog, amigo o dahil lang sa sabi-sabi? sabi nila, more power mas ok. bitin man ang power ng onkyo mo pero kung it performs well naman then why change it? gaano ka ba kalakas magpatugtog? of course with separates, mas better than an AVR (lalo kung ok lang sa yo ang dagdag ng konting bill sa kuryente  ;))... mas malinis ang tunog, mas may palo (para sa akin ha). just my barya barya lang  ;)

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Re: newbie query
« Reply #693 on: Mar 26, 2009 at 12:05 AM »
Congrats Balibago :)
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Re: newbie query
« Reply #694 on: Mar 26, 2009 at 01:22 AM »
Puro pagtitipid ang recommendasyon nila ako hinde, para maiba... Sige, go lang ng go. ;D ;D ;D Nakabili ka na rin lang ng set ng B&W, maximize mo na potential nya. Speaker placement can only do so much if the sound cannot be reproduced to a certain level. Get a receiver with pre outs then a multi channel amp. Ayus na ayus yan sa B&W mo.

BTW, san ba location mo? baka mapahiram kita ng Bada 5-channel amp kung malapit ka lang sa Antipolo hehehe. Me pre outs ba yang onkyo mo?  ???

Pero sa totoo lang ganda ng setup mo. Congrats chief!  ;)

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Re: newbie query
« Reply #695 on: Mar 26, 2009 at 08:06 AM »
Rotel i think is the more appropriate receiver for your B&W. If you have the money go for it and sell the Onkyo here for a price na pag-aagawan..i tell you - people will love you.  ;D
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Re: newbie query
« Reply #696 on: Mar 26, 2009 at 08:20 AM »
You can start off with a preowned Rotel processor from Audioworld: ;D

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Question regarding amplifiers
« Reply #697 on: Aug 02, 2009 at 08:03 AM »
Hello Pdvd members I have a question regarding amplifiers because I am planning to buy one since the audio in of my JVC component is busted so instead of repairing it I might get an amplifier instead. Now my question is, how can I connect my 2 JVC speakers and 2 JVC Subwoofers to the amplifier? Because most of the amplifiers I see only have 2 connection for the front speakers? Can I connect 1 speaker and 1 woofer together? Kakaiba kasi speakers nitong component ko >.<

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Re: Question regarding amplifiers
« Reply #698 on: Aug 02, 2009 at 01:15 PM »
It would be better if you can show us  a pic so we can give proper advise.
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Re: Question regarding amplifiers
« Reply #699 on: Aug 11, 2009 at 09:23 PM »
Hi there, that is possible but quality/clarity is not guaranteed...

subwoofer speaker might require a low frequency signal...check ur subwoofer if there's a built-in crossover inside. Same as your 1st pair [mids/high]. I assume that your old amp have built-in crossover that's why high and low channels are separate than the usual 2 or 3 way speaker system.


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Re: Newbie Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #700 on: Sep 24, 2009 at 04:13 PM »
as long as happy ka sa sound that what counts as said by many members. if i were you, ill do the room acoustic treatment first then buy rotel amp later. b&w uses rotel to amplified their gear so i think its one of the best match.

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #701 on: Oct 22, 2009 at 01:29 PM »
Mga Bossing,

Help naman para sa bagong member ng PDVD :).  I'm planning to buy NMT (thinking of either HDPro or Xstream) to watch downloaded movies from the net. Initially, I was considering a generic 1080p HDMI DVD upscaler (Xtreme or Nextbase) and then I came across this NMT stuff. Read several posts here and was convinced on getting NMT instead (thanks to the gurus of PDVD).

I have a Philips SP120 5.1 speakers connected to my old DVD player (ACE) via 6 rca jacks. I assume I would need a receiver for the NMT to use my speakers since NMTs don't have 6 channel rca outputs (correct me if im wrong, sobrang newbie pa sa HT setup).  Optical/Coaxial lang meron sa NMT to use DTS 5.1.

What would you guys recommend for an entry-level receiver with HDMI? I have an HD-Ready LCD and planning to purchase an xbox 360 sometime soon to connect to this receiver also. Pang movies/gaming lang talaga habol ko para magamit yun 5.1 surround sound.

Thanks!!!

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #702 on: Oct 22, 2009 at 01:44 PM »
Mga Bossing,

Help naman para sa bagong member ng PDVD :).  I'm planning to buy NMT (thinking of either HDPro or Xstream) to watch downloaded movies from the net. Initially, I was considering a generic 1080p HDMI DVD upscaler (Xtreme or Nextbase) and then I came across this NMT stuff. Read several posts here and was convinced on getting NMT instead (thanks to the gurus of PDVD).

I have a Philips SP120 5.1 speakers connected to my old DVD player (ACE) via 6 rca jacks. I assume I would need a receiver for the NMT to use my speakers since NMTs don't have 6 channel rca outputs (correct me if im wrong, sobrang newbie pa sa HT setup).  Optical/Coaxial lang meron sa NMT to use DTS 5.1.

What would you guys recommend for an entry-level receiver with HDMI? I have an HD-Ready LCD and planning to purchase an xbox 360 sometime soon to connect to this receiver also. Pang movies/gaming lang talaga habol ko para magamit yun 5.1 surround sound.

Thanks!!!


entry level hdmi video pass throughs based receivers with optical and coax audio digital inputs is what you need. i think either a denon 1610 or onkyo 507. yamaha willhave one too but i forgot the model number.

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #703 on: Oct 22, 2009 at 04:13 PM »
entry level hdmi video pass throughs based receivers with optical and coax audio digital inputs is what you need. i think either a denon 1610 or onkyo 507. yamaha willhave one too but i forgot the model number.

Thanks for quick reply sir. By the way, my Philips SP120 5.1 has a powered active subwoofer (satellites are connected to the sub which has 5.1 channel RCA analog inputs w/c is then connected to my dvd player).

Meron bang RCA analog output yun denon and onkyo? Nakita ko lang kse yun meron (+) and (-) jacks sa likod ng mga receivers same as those output on the subwoofer. If ever pwede ko sasak ba directly yun mga satellites sa receiver? 4ohms each yun impedance ng mga satellites according sa manual, 8ohms nman yun subwoofer.

Sorry sobrang noob question ah. Im just beginning my journey on HT setup kse. Thanks again!!

Medyo may kamahalan din pala yun Denon or Onkyo receivers kahit entry level (papaluin ako ni misis nyan!!!  ;D).

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #704 on: Oct 22, 2009 at 07:06 PM »
Thanks for quick reply sir. By the way, my Philips SP120 5.1 has a powered active subwoofer (satellites are connected to the sub which has 5.1 channel RCA analog inputs w/c is then connected to my dvd player).

Meron bang RCA analog output yun denon and onkyo? Nakita ko lang kse yun meron (+) and (-) jacks sa likod ng mga receivers same as those output on the subwoofer. If ever pwede ko sasak ba directly yun mga satellites sa receiver? 4ohms each yun impedance ng mga satellites according sa manual, 8ohms nman yun subwoofer.

Sorry sobrang noob question ah. Im just beginning my journey on HT setup kse. Thanks again!!

Medyo may kamahalan din pala yun Denon or Onkyo receivers kahit entry level (papaluin ako ni misis nyan!!!  ;D).

entry level receivers are usually rated 6-16 ohms for speakers, and usually these receivers are rated for 100 watts per channel. are you sure your satellites are 4 ohms? those are hard to drive speakers, there are a lot of good speaker sets out there that are usually 6-8ohms rated. or entry level receivers usually have satellite speaker sets that are match with them, yamaha and onkyo usually have this.

but the best way is to bring your speaker set to the shop so that you can audition the receiver that catch your eyes and ears.

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Another good tweak for an amplifier is changing the power supply rail diodes to ultrafast-soft recovery type. The best I tried so far was the HFA series from International Rectifiers. An HFA08TB60, is rated at 8amps, 600v, which is good enough for small amps. These can be bought at Farnell or RS Components. The best tweak for an amp.

Another is to get the best powercaps you could with low ESR rating and bypass with polypropylene types of caps. If space is not a problem, double the uf rating.

And at the output stage, which is normally a zobel network for most amps, resistor and capacitor combination, i normally used a 5Watt Kiwame or Riken and Auricap.
If for instance the entire power supply of an Audio Amplifier (having the typical power transformer (EI core), SS rectifiers, and large electrolytic capacitors) will be changed to a light weight Switching type power supplies with the same voltage and current (like those used in the desktop pc), will there be an improvement with the sound quality as it is almost purely regulated, or will be worst?
Is there an advantage or disadvantage in doing so as far as sound quality is concerned?
Any inputs? ???
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Can an AVR with high wattage damage my speakers?
« Reply #706 on: Dec 05, 2009 at 05:55 PM »
I plan to buy an Onkyo tx-nr807, rated at 135w per channel.

I own Mission bookshelf speakers. It says at the back:
Output power: 20 - 60W / Ch
Nominal Impedance: 8 ohms

Is this a safe combination?
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Re: Can an AVR with high wattage damage my speakers?
« Reply #707 on: Dec 05, 2009 at 08:00 PM »
just as long as you don't you don't increase you level to the point of distortion you'd be okay.

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Re: Can an AVR with high wattage damage my speakers?
« Reply #708 on: Dec 06, 2009 at 08:37 AM »
Your speakers will be fine at comfortable listening levels in a typical room.   Normal listening levels hover in the 20-30 watts per channel which is fairly loud enough.    I doubt if you'll be driving them anywhere near the rated power of either your receiver or the speaker and still remain inside the room. 

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Re: Can an AVR with high wattage damage my speakers?
« Reply #709 on: Dec 06, 2009 at 09:33 AM »
it is better to have amp with higher power output vs speakers' handling capacity as long as you do not go beyond speakers' rated capacity... amps with much lower power output might reach clipping (distorted SQ) stage much early, thereby, more tendency to harm the speakers especially on longer duration of use

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Re: Can an AVR with high wattage damage my speakers?
« Reply #710 on: Dec 08, 2009 at 01:42 PM »
as long as you don't exceed the mechanical limits of your speakers, you should be fine...
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noob question
« Reply #711 on: Dec 21, 2009 at 10:52 PM »
sirs! question lang po mayroon po akong 8" targa subwoofer SVC 175 watts puwede po ba cya connect sa home amplifier na generic 300 watss po ung ampli and puwede po namn 1 na ampli ang sub and seps?

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #712 on: Dec 22, 2009 at 05:02 AM »
Mga Sir,

I would like to ask for you advise. pasensya na at hindi ko masundan yung thread, ang haba na kasi.
I want to ask whats the best and cheapest 5.1 amp/receiver that has both digital and analog capability?

Im planning to buy one soon, Getting my 1st 37 panny or samsung lcd and a ps3. My old speaker set up in the house that i still want to use are: Front- Wharfedale 2090 8 ohms 200 watts, Satellite- Daichi book shelf 4-8 ohms 200 watts. My sub has 5.1 output but im changing it also to a downward firing one, and my center is just an ordinary old sony component speaker which i plan to change also same time with the sub if budget permits

Thank you

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #713 on: Dec 22, 2009 at 07:10 AM »
Mga Sir,

I would like to ask for you advise. pasensya na at hindi ko masundan yung thread, ang haba na kasi.
I want to ask whats the best and cheapest 5.1 amp/receiver that has both digital and analog capability?

Im planning to buy one soon, Getting my 1st 37 panny or samsung lcd and a ps3. My old speaker set up in the house that i still want to use are: Front- Wharfedale 2090 8 ohms 200 watts, Satellite- Daichi book shelf 4-8 ohms 200 watts. My sub has 5.1 output but im changing it also to a downward firing one, and my center is just an ordinary old sony component speaker which i plan to change also same time with the sub if budget permits

Thank you

try the entry level receivers of either onkyo,denon or yamaha. look at @smitfraud's post here. i think these are the entry level receivers of the three companies.

Need yur help to decide what receiver will i buy. I am newbie in HT.

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Surround amplifier, 7x90W, 43.5x17.4x37.7 cm, 11.4 kg, Type: Surround, Power Output: 7x90W, Impedance: 8 ohm, Radio type: AM/FM/XM-Ready, Satellite Radio Ready: XM Ready, Radio presets: 40, DTS HD, Dolby Digital Plus 7.1

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Yamaha RX-V 365-   P16500

RX-V365 receiver from Yamaha features "5.1" channels of audio output for a true surround-sound experience right in your home. The "5" in "5.1" refers to the five main audio channels — center channel for dialogue, right- and left-front and right- and left-rear channels for enveloping audio effects. The ".1" refers to the non-powered LFE or Low Frequency Effects channel which provides audio content to your subwoofer for deep, rumbling bass performance. Delivering 100W of power to each channel — for a grand total of 500W of output power — your RX-V365 is equipped to surround you with your favorite music or movie soundtrack.
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Onkyo 307-Price P15300

A/V Surround Receiver featuring HD Video connectivity, to enhance your level of entertainment pleasure. 
 The AVR-1509 monitors the structural elements of sound sources and uses Audyssey Dynamic Volume to adjust volume without sacrificing dynamic range. 
 This A/V receiver masterfully controls a variety of media for optimum playback of high-quality audio and video content. 
 Discrete 5-ch Power amplifier with 110W per channel (6 ohms) 
 Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ 
 2x HDMI inputs (pass through) 
 Versatile Entertainment Functions

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #714 on: Jan 21, 2010 at 01:41 PM »
I'll go for Onkyo 307-Price @ P15300...
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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #715 on: Jan 27, 2010 at 01:51 PM »
are there any receivers that is less than 10k with HDMI input? brand new or 2nd hand?

and meron na ba ugn mga konzert ng mga hdmi input?
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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #716 on: Jan 27, 2010 at 03:27 PM »
are there any receivers that is less than 10k with HDMI input? brand new or 2nd hand?
i dont think there are any for brand new ones. for second hand, you may get lucky, but i would be sure if there are it will be ones with hdmi1.2 spec'ed meaning, it can only do hdmi video and cant decode hd audio like tru hd and dts-ma.

and meron na ba ugn mga konzert ng mga hdmi input?
i think the konzerts and the sakuras still does not have hdmi inputs on their amplifier/receiver products.

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #717 on: Jan 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM »
Sir iinas...pasensya na napakanoob question nito:
Meron po akong spare na Konzert av-302 w/c is 2channels only na amp. Balak ko po syang gamitan ng subwoofer. Source po ay PC...balak ko po syang gamiting HTPC pang small room only about 9sqm. Paano ko po makokonek yung powered sub kasi wlang subwoofer-out yung av302? Either of the 2 po na subs ang gagamitin ko>>>a-audio sub of anthony or pilyo's sub+amp4.

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #718 on: Jan 28, 2010 at 04:01 PM »
Sir iinas...pasensya na napakanoob question nito:
Meron po akong spare na Konzert av-302 w/c is 2channels only na amp. Balak ko po syang gamitan ng subwoofer. Source po ay PC...balak ko po syang gamiting HTPC pang small room only about 9sqm. Paano ko po makokonek yung powered sub kasi wlang subwoofer-out yung av302? Either of the 2 po na subs ang gagamitin ko>>>a-audio sub of anthony or pilyo's sub+amp4.



based on my reco, i think the a audio sub can be use this way, i said this because pilyo's subs is designed in such a way that the amp and the sub enclosure itself is separated. while the a audio subs are utilizing plate amps that are more or less just like conventional commercial amps.

from the sakura amp's speaker out, connect your speaker wires to the sub's high level speaker inputs, then get another set of speaker wires and connect it to the sub's high level speaker outs then connect it to your left and right speakers. adjust your sub's cross over, 70-90 hz, meaning anything below 70-90hz will come out of the sub, then of course adjust gain/volume of sub to adjust the sub's output.

not sure is there are other ways, but this is a way i know and have tried. here is a pic of a plate amp of a subwoofer. the high level speaker in and out are the red and black screw knobs.

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Re: Newbie & Not-so Noob Thread: Questions (FAQ) on Receivers/Amplifiers
« Reply #719 on: Jan 28, 2010 at 04:23 PM »
thanks for the reply Sir...noted po yan...So I'd rather get anthony's a-audio sub na lang...thanks po uli sir iinas ;D
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