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the_w0rks · « **Reply #3060 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 09:48 AM »

Quote from: DVD_Freak on Nov 30, 2012 at 09:11 AM

Seems you can't get the gist of my posts. We are really going in circles. It was already stated multiple times and was simplified as it could be. But let me see if I can make the simple more simplified....but first simply throw your fixation of where did the comparison come from. Forget about that. That has been holding you back.

You branded Rondo as having an attitude problem. I agree. But that is not uncommon at Rondo's age. Kobe was just as brash in his younger days. I was curious if the diss was made w/o bias. Yes you said you coildn't recall....pre-2000. But all the issues were post 2000.

Yep, the diss was done without bias. I made that conclusion based on the incidents I've seen Rondo involved in. And all of those were all on court incidents. This is why I suggested to check the context because my references are all on-court incidents. No allusions to off-court issues.

But to finally put this to rest, I will indulge you. Yes, i am aware of the "Ship his ass out" kobe video, the "do something. do it now", the "I'd rather play in Pluto" comments. And yes, that was very stupid coming from Kobe. Immature,yes. He wanted to win but his radio show tirade was definitely distasteful. I was one of the supporters of trading him to Chicago for Loul Deng and a whole lot of pieces because of his tirade.

Now that we have that out of the way, how is that similar to the incidents that Rondo has been involved in, with regard to on-court incidents? sure both are attitude problems but it's wrapped in two different contexts. One is off-court and emanates from the will to win (building a championship team), the other is just a knee jerk reaction to a foul to a teammate, (among other on-court incidents).

As for the times when Kobe seemingly tanked a game and tried to be a facilitator, well, can you remind me which game was that? I do remember an elimination game where he stopped taking shots against the Suns. Definitely criticized him for that. ---but again, those are different from Rondo's issues which revolves more on altercations.

the_w0rks · « **Reply #3061 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 09:53 AM »

Quote from: ABCmotorparts on Nov 30, 2012 at 08:15 AM

May magpapataw ba ng suspension dito sa atin sa pag-aaway din,..? Hahahaha

Chill everyone,...

Wala namang away. Just a heated debate between two people trying to make a point. Cooler heads need to prevail lang but there's definitely no fighting.

Quote from: Wiggum on Nov 30, 2012 at 09:40 AM

Happy Bonifacio Day, guys.

In other news, Gregg Popovich has decided to rest his stars v. the Heat today in a nationally televised game, and is now facing "substantial sanctions" from Boss Stern. Coach's prerogative (to rest aging players at the tailend of a 6-game road trip) v. league interest.. Interesting issue.

Gotta love Popovich. I actually like him more than Phil Jackson.

Munskie · « **Reply #3062 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM »

Spurs will face sanctions.....nagalit si Stern

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #3063 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:26 AM »

Quote from: the_w0rks on Nov 30, 2012 at 09:48 AM

Yep, the diss was done without bias. I made that conclusion based on the incidents I've seen Rondo involved in. And all of those were all on court incidents. This is why I suggested to check the context because my references are all on-court incidents. No allusions to off-court issues.

But to finally put this to rest, I will indulge you. Yes, i am aware of the "Ship his ass out" kobe video, the "do something. do it now", the "I'd rather play in Pluto" comments. And yes, that was very stupid coming from Kobe. Immature,yes. He wanted to win but his radio show tirade was definitely distasteful. I was one of the supporters of trading him to Chicago for Loul Deng and a whole lot of pieces because of his tirade.

Now that we have that out of the way, how is that similar to the incidents that Rondo has been involved in, with regard to on-court incidents? sure both are attitude problems but it's wrapped in two different contexts. One is off-court and emanates from the will to win (building a championship team), the other is just a knee jerk reaction to a foul to a teammate, (among other on-court incidents).

As for the times when Kobe seemingly tanked a game and tried to be a facilitator, well, can you remind me which game was that? I do remember an elimination game where he stopped taking shots against the Suns. Definitely criticized him for that. ---but again, those are different from Rondo's issues which revolves more on altercations.

Well isn't that easy enough instead of resorting to targeting Kobe and hater statements? About the Rondo incident, one can say he was standing up for his teammate. It can also be argued that it has nothing to do with an attitude problem. As the article/link you mentioned, it was more misplaced loyalty than having an attitude problem. Article stated Rondo's reaction was natural. Rondo thought Humphries was trying to hurt KG that was why he reacted. He was wrong and acted inappropriately.

Rondo does have an attitude problem. But in this case, more of hot-headedness. All of us have our own way of being passionate NBA fans. But branding people haters and such shouldn't be resorted to. Or else the discussion will just go to the dogs.

Syempre most of all, if you can dish it out, learn how to receive it as well. So dapat walang pikunan.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #3064 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:30 AM »

Quote from: Munskie on Nov 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Spurs will face sanctions.....nagalit si Stern

It was a nationally televised game versus the Heat. Yari ang ratings. Naging Heat versus the Spurs bench. Magagalit yun sponsors kay Stern. And of course Stern will transfer that frustration to the Spurs.

Timithekid · « **Reply #3065 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM »

Quote from: Munskie on Nov 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Spurs will face sanctions.....nagalit si Stern

May rule ba nba ito? Meron naman DNP - coach decision diba?

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #3066 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:35 AM »

Quote from: Timithekid on Nov 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM

May rule ba nba ito? Meron naman DNP - coach decision diba?

Stern being an astute and shrewd lawyer...meron yan. He'll probably resort to always putting out the best product on the floor. Or the Spurs cheating the paying fans to see the stars play. I believe there's this so called "Spirit of the Game" rule.

Munskie · « **Reply #3067 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM »

I agree. Imagine fans expecting to see a Marquee matchup then pffftttt!!

Regarding Rondo, yes he has an attitude problem. Its not a secret. He was even a trade subject last trading deadline, and this was due to his attitude within the team, and conflicts with Rivers. Search it, Boston media pa nagrereport.

Regarding that play though, yes it was a compulsive reaction. If it was around 15-20 years ago, it would have meant nothing. Pero that play...you instigate a fight, suspension yan. He'll learn.

HD_MOVIES · « **Reply #3068 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM »

tsk tsk tsk - blow right on the nose for MIA..

Battousai · « **Reply #3069 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM »

I find it funny how players overreact in the nba. That foul on KG by Kardashian wasnt even all that hard. KG dishes out as hard as any player, so i guess youd see him not really bothered. But Rondo's move is just plain wrong with stupid coming close to a proper description.

the_w0rks · « **Reply #3070 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 11:01 AM »

haha and the spurs are up after 3 quarters. wow.

Battousai · « **Reply #3071 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 11:02 AM »

Pops should tell Stern he used "basketball reasons" in deciding to send home the 4 Spurs.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #3072 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 11:19 AM »

The Spurs-Heat game w/o the stars have gotten boring for the commentators that Sir Charles and Reggie have been talking about MJ, Kobe and get this...... the Pacman!

Bigtime na talaga si Pacquiao! Siya yun naging topic for discussion.

Also what if the Spurs win, will Stern still punish the Spurs. Because even if Pop rested his stars, the bench came in and played to win the game.

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #3073 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 11:20 AM »

Spurs leading by 4 points (87-83) with 6mins remaining in the 4th qrt.

Go Heat!

Munskie · « **Reply #3074 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 11:32 AM »

Stern already said they will face sanctions....Pop could have been discreet, but I guess he wants total rest, he didnt let them travel.

Spurs looking good.....Pop looking a lot smarter with his moves.

AD3000 · « **Reply #3075 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 11:48 AM »

105-100. another come from behind win by the heat. gotta love jesus shuttlesworth!

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #3076 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 11:56 AM »

^ Yeah, baby!

Hindi kaya pagsisihan ni Popovich 'yung decision nya, may sanctions na sila, natalo pa sila?

Go Heat!

rukawakaide1721 · « **Reply #3077 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 02:48 PM »

Akala ko sa NBA at PBA lang ako makakakita ng buzzer beater....kanina sa game namin akala mo kakampi namin sa d.Wade kasi no.3 yun kakampi....we are down by 2 @6seconds sa clock...coming from sablay na free throw ng kalaban...aawww men ang rebound at pasa at bitaw swak na swak...kagulo sa court sa sobramg saya...

NBA ulit....Chicago habol tayo....

rusty · « **Reply #3078 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 08:00 PM »

Di ako nakapanood ng games today, pero hanep talaga ang Spurs.

Tsaka nanalo pala ang Golden State! 9-6 na!

Gob_Loves_Sony · « **Reply #3079 on:** Nov 30, 2012 at 08:40 PM »

Hindi n magchachampion ang spurs....IMO.

HD_MOVIES · « **Reply #3080 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 12:49 AM »

^unless lumipat si LBJ sa spurs

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #3081 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 07:48 AM »

Hindi kaya pwedeng palitan si JIM BUSS,...

pao9307 · « **Reply #3082 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 10:06 AM »

Stackhouse is having some sort of resurrection.17pts.Kaso,vs Orlando nga lang

pao9307 · « **Reply #3083 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 10:10 AM »

Spurs fined 250k by stern.

pao9307 · « **Reply #3084 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 10:16 AM »

Mukhang wasak agad 1 game win streak ng wizards

Battousai · « **Reply #3085 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 10:21 AM »

Hehehe hindi ata classified as streak pag naka isang panalo pa lang.

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #3086 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 10:21 AM »

Quote from: pao9307 on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Spurs fined 250k by stern.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/11/30/spurs-fined-25000-for-resting-players/?ls=iref:nbahpts

Parang hindi ayos yun ah,... It's like nakikialam ang commissioner kung paano irotate ang team,...
Eh paano kung gusto ko ngang ipahinga ang key players ko to save their legs in future games,..?

synchro_01 · « **Reply #3087 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 10:30 AM »

The Spurs did that last year as well for the final two games of the regular season. I believe they werent fined last year.

iggi_08 · « **Reply #3088 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 10:36 AM »

saka back to back games on the road. hindi na naman spring chicken sila duncan & manu, pop was just trying to preserve their legs para sa game tomorrow against the grizzlies. eh mas importante yun kasi division rival. saka pop has been known to strategically rest his older players naman kahit noon pa.

dyerds · « **Reply #3089 on:** Dec 01, 2012 at 11:39 AM »

You got to love Stern for his greediness. $250k for coach's decision to rest his players? Oh well... $:-\$

Here's a nice read.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--david-stern-stumbles-again-in-his-failed-culture-war-against-the-spurs-194828970.html;_ylt=Aouu1yHH_lesJJNz16v9BM28vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTN1NWNkbWgxBG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBOQkEEcGtnAzFlZjUwY2FjLTU1OTktM2ZmYS1iYzdhLWIxZTRlMzYyZjgzNgRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyA2EzYTBiMjIzLTNiNTYtMTFlMi1iYjdmLTEzYzg4YjQyMzgzNw--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3