Topic: Dai-ichi Speakers & sub

[Chito C.]

Sir Jerix,

I think there are many members here who are using the yammy/warfs combo (8ohms receiver/6 ohms speakers) for their ht so I don't think there's a problem. Wharfs are even harder to drive than the daichi speakers because of ther sensitivity.

Sir arthurallanj,

Leaning more on wharfs kasi from ht gusto ko na mag audio eh. Best speakers for it's price.

Sir dvh,

Gusto ko ngang may ibang makinig ng pl-100 para malaman ko kung tama nga ang rinig ko. Euros 8 is definitely for ht especially if u don't have or plan on buying a sub.

[arthurallanj]

euros less than 5,600
pl-100 less than 5,700

Sa kumpare ko, he's giving me an additional discount. I've decided dun na lang ako bibili. 

[vtec3]

Bro, favor ulit, please? Can you post a pic of the top view of the speaker? So we can finally put this to rest. Can't see pa rin e. He he. Thanks bro ha? 

 

[arthurallanj]

Bro vtec3,
Thank you very much. Wish you many happy listening hours with your toy. 

[vtec3]

Really very much interested to know anything about how these 6 ohms speakers perform with 8 ohms receivers.. Anyone having this combi please? 

Base on theories, it seems hooking these 6 ohms speakers to 8 ohms receivers/amps is not advisable... but price of these speakers is tempting me to try  but i really want to know first actual experiences of users  thnks

I bought the Euros8 Tower recently and still maintained my Yamaha Amps, wala pa naman ako na experience na problem. Every now and then tinitingnan ko kung umiinit pero so far k naman. Hopefully stays that way.  

[backdraft]

Sir,

I have an ONKYO TX-800 amp rated at 130 watts (8 ohms) and I'm planning to have a separate setup for audio. I have the diamond 8.3 on mind paired with a surplus CDP,until i found this thread,  do you guys think that these euro towers will match my amp. Which would sound better kaya?

thanks.

[vtec3]

Bro vtec3,
Thank you very much. Wish you many happy listening hours with your toy. 

ur welcome sir.  so far happy naman ako sa Euros8 although HT lang talaga gamit ko sa kanya.  

[arthurallanj]

As I've said, ever noticed the similarities in design of Yamahas and Daiichis? Similar ang enclosure ng EF Series, Yamaha NS-555 & NS-777, with the Euros. Could it be that  Daiichi takes after Yamaha??? Obvious ba? He he he.  

[arthurallanj]

I bought the Euros8 Tower recently and still maintained my Yamaha Amps, wala pa naman ako na experience na problem. Every now and then tinitingnan ko kung umiinit pero so far k naman. Hopefully stays that way.  

I don't think you'd have a problem with that, Yamahas are rated at 6 Ohms, Daiichis are rated at 6 Ohms, too. So matched nga talaga sila in terms of impedance. More and more each day I believe Daiichi bases their designs from foreign counterparts, but moreso, at least that's what I think, with Yamaha. 

[fandvd]

heres my HTsetup:
Main B: Euros 8 floorstander
Main A: Polk Audio R20
Center: Polk Audio R25
Surround: Polk Audio R15
BCenter: Kenwood ES
SUB: UsAudio 512

Reciever:Yamaha rxv450
DVD: Pioneer 373
         Caravision Multi Videoke system
CD player: Denon 1520

TV: 32inch wide screen (sony surplus)

Sir Arthurallanj eto pala yung daiichi na sinasabi ko syo.

http://img126.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img126&image=l1fcimg2511.jpg

[av_phile1]

As I've said, ever noticed the similarities in design of Yamahas and Daiichis? Similar ang enclosure ng EF Series, Yamaha NS-555 & NS-777, with the Euros. Could it be that  Daiichi takes after Yamaha??? Obvious ba? He he he.  

Dai-ichi could be an OEM for Yamaha.  And others.  Other than that, it's really easy to copy the physical dimensions of a known speaker brand.  Even their crossovers.  One can always reverse-engineer.

[arthurallanj]

Dai-ichi could be an OEM for Yamaha.  And others.  Other than that, it's really easy to copy the physical dimensions of a known speaker brand.  Even their crossovers.  One can always reverse-engineer.

Reverse-engineering is the word. I think that's what they do. Although, I don't think they're an OEM for Yamaha, sir AV. But I'm very certain they are for Pioneer. That's why, If I never get to buy those NS-555s someday, makukuntento na lang ako sa Euros. He he. Good day, Sir AV. 

[vtec3]

As I've said, ever noticed the similarities in design of Yamahas and Daiichis? Similar ang enclosure ng EF Series, Yamaha NS-555 & NS-777, with the Euros. Could it be that  Daiichi takes after Yamaha??? Obvious ba? He he he.  

sir I think tama yang observation mo. i think you get value for money for the Euros8. my HT now sounds a lot better than before when I was using Bose 301 as my main speakers.  

[arthurallanj]

sir I think tama yang observation mo. i think you get value for money for the Euros8. my HT now sounds a lot better than before when I was using Bose 301 as my main speakers.  

Ain't that what it's all about? Value for your money. I was happy with my DTX 9.5, and it also had good value, but I think it's time I grew into something with better bass response. Excited na ako!!! 
Oh and ahh, a little secret an insider from Daiichi told me, the Euros were really mass produced for export, that's why medyo mahal sya nung simula, and Daiichi alledgedly overproduced these beautiful babes, that's why they're selling it at these lowered prices, swerte natin, no? He he  . Hoy, mga bro, secret lang natin to ha? He he he. 

[arthurallanj]

heres my HTsetup:
Main B: Euros 8 floorstander
Main A: Polk Audio R20
Center: Polk Audio R25
Surround: Polk Audio R15
BCenter: Kenwood ES

Reciever:Yamaha rxv450
DVD: Pioneer 373
         Caravision Multi Videoke system
CD player: Denon 1520

TV: 32inch wide screen (sony surplus)

Sir Arthurallanj eto pala yung daiichi na sinasabi ko syo.

http://img126.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img126&image=l1fcimg2511.jpg

Bro,
That's a beautiful set up. I just fell in love with the Euros 8. Are those isolation spikes I see? Did you make them yourself? Or bought them? Or did they come with the Euros? Thanks in advance. 

Oh and ahh, on a personal note, those two people on the picture frames also look beautiful. Lagyan ko rin kaya ng pictures namin ang set up ko? Para naman ma-touch si misis. He he. 

[fandvd]

Bro,
That's a beautiful set up. I just fell in love with the Euros 8. Are those isolation spikes I see? Did you make them yourself? Or bought them? Or did they come with the Euros? Thanks in advance. 

tnx
Sir kasama na yan sa euros 8 yung mga spikes..actually wala pa sa pic yung caravision..update ko yung pics ko later ng mas ok na shots.

[arthurallanj]

tnx
Sir kasama na yan sa euros 8 yung mga spikes..actually wala pa sa pic yung caravision..update ko yung pics ko later ng mas ok na shots.

Oh yes!! I just love it, it gets better and better everyday. 99% na akong sure sa Euros 8. Oh X-Mas Bonus, nasaan ka na? He he. 

[backdraft]

Sir,

I have an ONKYO TX-800 amp rated at 130 watts (8 ohms) and I'm planning to have a separate setup for audio. I have the diamond 8.3 on mind paired with a surplus CDP,until i found this thread,  do you guys think that these euro towers will match my amp. Which would sound better kaya?

thanks.

up ko lang... thanks

[jerix]

bro Chito, tnx for your comments- at least good comments naman yata ang nababasa ko sa issue about the impedance mismatch between the Euros 8 which is 6 ohms and 8 ohms amps...

but still waiting for a contrary opinion..

[av_phile1]

bro Chito, tnx for your comments- at least good comments naman yata ang nababasa ko sa issue about the impedance mismatch between the Euros 8 which is 6 ohms and 8 ohms amps...

but still waiting for a contrary opinion..

This is not a contrary opinion, just a cautionary one. 

In general, 8-ohm nominally rated speakers should be paired with amps requiring or recommending 8-ohm speakers.  But some amps with this recommendation can handles lower loads on a continuous basis except that it operates much hotter.  You would just need to train a cooling fan over its heat sinks.  And not overdrive it at high volumes or the protection circuit will engage. 

If you plan to set the speakers to SMALL and route bass to a powered subwoofer, then the amp can run cooler even with a lower load.  Bear in mind that most frequencies below 100 hz have low impedances that can reach down to 3 ohms or lower, so they are the ones that will tax an amp.  But if such frequencies are routed to a powered sub, there'd be little to nothing to tax the amp with.   

[jerix]

oh yeah, master av_phile1 -- thnks again  cautionary comments fully taken --  but is there another way to make that 8 ohms? 

[av_phile1]

There are awkward ways, like putting a 2-ohm 50-watt resistor in series with each speaker or using a matching transformer. 

But I don't see the urgency to do so.  To be  absolutely sure, bring your receiver to the AV shop or a Euros owner, connect it to the Euros and listen for an hour at the volume you like (hope the salesman won't mind) and see if your receiver doesn't go into protection mode.  Chances are it won't, but will be hotter. 

[dvh]

guys,

a friend of mine just auditioned euros8 in megamall and he said grabe sa HT demo dvd pa is yung saving private ryan...description nga ng friend ko is para syang dinidibdiban sa ganda ng bass sa HT...

but...

as per him medyo di gaanong appealing sa music...

euros8 owners...care to post reviews ng euros8 with regards to music?

iyon na lang ang kulang kong info and sigurado na kong bibili ng euros8 ... ilang tulog na lang!!!

[vtec3]

guys,

a friend of mine just auditioned euros8 in megamall and he said grabe sa HT demo dvd pa is yung saving private ryan...description nga ng friend ko is para syang dinidibdiban sa ganda ng bass sa HT...

but...

as per him medyo di gaanong appealing sa music...

euros8 owners...care to post reviews ng euros8 with regards to music?

iyon na lang ang kulang kong info and sigurado na kong bibili ng euros8 ... ilang tulog na lang!!!

I played Cris Cross Live DVD and noticed also that medyo nga di appealing sa music ang euros8. Pero I agree with your friend na kapag movies you will be amazed by its performance. 

[garee]

match na match pala sila ng yammy avr coz maganda sa HT pero hindi gaano sa audio.

[arthurallanj]

That is exactly the reason why the Euros 8 didn't perform well with bro vtec3's set up, he's using a Yamaha amp. Why don't we ask somebody else who's using the Euros 8 with a different amp? 

[Yakuini]

Anyone knows how much is the Center of Euro 8?

Will upgrade my DTX Tower and Center this month. Me takers na sa DTX speakers ko

[Asktig]

euros less than 5,600
pl-100 less than 5,700

sir ang price ba nito ay each or by pair? thanks!

[arthurallanj]

sir ang price ba nito ay each or by pair? thanks!

Pair, bro. 

[Jude]

Punta na rin yata ako mamaya sa Megamall para ma-audition itong Euros. Pwede kaya pa-palitan yung fronts ng ibang model ng speaker ng Dai-ichi din na mas okay para sa music?