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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3990 on: May 17, 2014 at 12:25 AM »
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24564013/report-donald-sterling-threatens-to-sue-the-nba

I saw this coming -- Sterling suing the NBA.  Although he was morally wrong (racial discrimination is wrong, period) he didn't say those words publicly. It was meant to be an intimate conversation.   He thought, and he meant it to be a private conversation between him and his ex.  He never ran the Clippers in a discriminatory manner where blacks are regarded as inferior.  Did he?  Ang mali lang, may nag record nung conversation.  And his GF was seemingly baiting him to say those words. And pagdating sa korte, hindi ata pwede ang recorded conversation.  Inamin nya sya yun pero ang lusot nya e hindi ko naman sinabi in public eh. 

It's really an issue of morality.  Mali talaga yun.  But problem here is pagdating sa korte where evidence is everything, what do you have against Sterling?

My thoughts only.  Wanna hear from others.  Lawyers better.  Or is this the right thread? 
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3991 on: May 17, 2014 at 01:11 AM »
You're belittling KD's contribution.  Last 10pts scored by OKC are as follows:

Edit:  Last 15pts pa nga....

3pts  -  KD's 3pt shot
2pts  -  KD's FTs
2pts  -  KD's assist to Jackson
3pts  -  KD's 3pt shot
2pts  -  KD's lay up
3pts  -  Westbrooks FTs. 

KD obviously struggled in Game 5.  And Westbrook carried the Thunder while KD was shooting bricks (3 of 17 going to the 4th).   If not for Westbrook, the Clips would have blown the game away.  Westbrook kept the game close until KD hit his stride in the 4th.  And oh, Westbrook also converted 3 pressure packed FTs to win the game for OKC.  Clearly, Westbrook owned that game.  Not KD. 

Game 6 was different.  KD delivered a performance expected from an MVP.  39 pts, 16 boards, 5 assists and 2 blocks in a close out game is par excellence.  Westbrook struggled but didn't really matter because of KD's savvy.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3992 on: May 17, 2014 at 02:52 AM »
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24564013/report-donald-sterling-threatens-to-sue-the-nba

I saw this coming -- Sterling suing the NBA.  Although he was morally wrong (racial discrimination is wrong, period) he didn't say those words publicly. It was meant to be an intimate conversation.   He thought, and he meant it to be a private conversation between him and his ex.  He never ran the Clippers in a discriminatory manner where blacks are regarded as inferior.  Did he?  Ang mali lang, may nag record nung conversation.  And his GF was seemingly baiting him to say those words. And pagdating sa korte, hindi ata pwede ang recorded conversation.  Inamin nya sya yun pero ang lusot nya e hindi ko naman sinabi in public eh. 

It's really an issue of morality.  Mali talaga yun.  But problem here is pagdating sa korte where evidence is everything, what do you have against Sterling?

My thoughts only.  Wanna hear from others.  Lawyers better.  Or is this the right thread? 

Posted this article earlier in the thread, it pretty much covers all the legal aspects of the Sterling ban:  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20140429/donald-sterling-nba-adam-silver-clippers-lawsuit-lifetime-ban/

Excerpt:
Legality of Sterling's suspension and fine

Silver has broad authority under the NBA's constitution and bylaws to suspend and fine an owner for conduct detrimental to the NBA. According to Sliver, Sterling admitted it was his voice on the recording in which he made racist remarks. Even if the recording was unlawfully created under California law -- the recording would likely be unlawful if the conversation was confidential and Sterling didn't give consent -- Silver is authorized to punish Sterling based on the recording's impact on the league. It is safe to say that Sterling's comments, which elicited the rebuke of President Barack Obama, have deeply harmed the NBA and its relationship with players, sponsors and fans. Sterling seems to lack a viable argument that his conduct was not seriously detrimental to the NBA.

Sterling is also disadvantaged in challenging the suspension and fine because of how a court would treat such a challenge. A court would review Silver's decision under the deferential "arbitrary and capricious" standard of review. This standard would essentially require Sterling prove that the NBA -- and specifically Silver, acting as the NBA's ultimate arbiter -- failed to follow its own rules in how it investigated Sterling and punished him. For instance, if the NBA failed to authenticate the recording, concealed evidence or not requested a meeting with Sterling, Sterling might have sufficient grounds. Silver's remarks during the press conference, however, suggest all relevant rules and policies were followed. Absent Sterling proving there was a procedural defect of serious importance, Sterling likely has no viable appeal to either the fine or suspension.



Legality of NBA forcing Sterling to sell the Clippers

Silver has also recommended that NBA owners effectively force Sterling to sell the Clippers. The NBA has a procedure in place for this extraordinary action, but the procedure contains enough ambiguity that debate among owners is likely. Under article 13 of the league's constitution, three fourths of the teams' ownership groups can vote to terminate a franchise under certain conditions. The conditions are focused on financial matters, such as an owner unable to meet payroll or an owner implicated in financial impropriety. None of the listed conditions, SI.com is told, apply directly to the type of conduct committed by Sterling. That said, article 13 also contains a more general requirement of ethical conduct in business dealings and contracts. Sterling's comments could be deemed unethical. They have also clearly damaged labor relations between the league and players, as players have gone so far as to consider boycotting NBA games. Also, sponsors have dropped deals with the Clippers. Should the NBA's owners vote to expel Sterling, the general requirement language would likely be cited as supplying the main legal justification.

more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20140429/donald-sterling-nba-adam-silver-clippers-lawsuit-lifetime-ban/

EDIT: found another informative article on the subject

Donald Sterling’s Legal Strategy Makes Little Sense
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/donald-sterlings-legal-strategy-makes-little-sense/
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3993 on: May 17, 2014 at 07:12 AM »
Serge ibaka out for the rest of the playoffs. Huge blow for okc. Ubos sile ke duncan
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3994 on: May 17, 2014 at 07:38 AM »
Serge ibaka out for the rest of the playoffs. Huge blow for okc. Ubos sile ke duncan


Ouch, this is gonna be quick work for San Antonio.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3995 on: May 17, 2014 at 07:39 AM »
From the Associated Press.

This is the ECF everybody wanted since the start of the season. But the Pacers have been too inconsistent this post-season to be a real threat to dethrone Miami. HCA means nothing here.

Dehado lalo OKC with Ibaka out (time to step up, Big Kiwi!). Pero critical rin how healthy Parker is. I'll root for OKC and the MVP :)

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A capsule look at the Eastern and Western Conference finals matchups in the NBA playoffs:

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EASTERN CONFERENCE

No. 1 INDIANA PACERS (56-26 regular season, 8-5 in playoffs) vs. No. 2 MIAMI HEAT (54-28, 8-1)

Season series: Tied, 2-2. The home teams held serve in each of the four meetings between the teams with the best records in the conference. The first three games of the series were decided by a total of 10 points before the Heat blew out the Pacers on April 11 to briefly move ahead of Indiana in the standings. Roy Hibbert was his enigmatic self in the series, averaging 22.5 points in Pacers wins and 5.5 points in the two losses. LeBron James averaged 28.8 points in the series, including 38 and 36 in the final two meetings.

Story line: This is a series everyone has been waiting for. The teams seemed destined for an Eastern Conference finals rematch after the Heat beat the Pacers in seven games last year en route to their second straight title. The Pacers surged out of the gates when this season opened, but staggered down the stretch and looked sloppy for long stretches of their first two rounds against Atlanta and Washington. The Heat took a more measured approach to the season and dispatched the Bobcats and Nets with ease in the playoffs.

Key matchup I: Hibbert vs. Heat frontcourt. The Pacers big man has been a mystery for most of the last two months, but he does have the size to give the Heat trouble in the paint. If he plays with the aggressiveness and confidence that he did in Indiana's two wins in the regular season, the Pacers will have a chance. If not, it could be a quick series.

Key matchup II: Heat's poise vs. Pacers' volatility. The Pacers can look like confident world-beaters one night and a disjointed team falling apart the next, a sign of a group that is still getting used to life in the spotlight. The veteran Heat have lived in the headlines going on four years now and rarely get rattled, which serves them well during a long playoff series.

X-factor: Dwyane Wade. The Heat guard missed 28 games in the regular season for injuries or rest, all with an eye toward being ready for this series. He's averaging 17.9 points on 50 percent shooting in the postseason, including 28 in the clinching victory over Brooklyn in the semifinals.

Prediction: Heat in 6.

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WESTERN CONFERENCE

No. 1 SAN ANTONIO SPURS (62-20, 8-4) vs. No. 2 OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER (59-23, 8-5)

Season series: Oklahoma City won 4-0. Both teams were missing key players at different points of the season series, so it's hard to draw too many conclusions. But the Thunder's athleticism certainly stood out. OKC grabbed 23 more rebounds in the four games and had an average margin of victory of 9.3 points.

Story line: The rematch. These teams, which have been the most consistently successful squads in the West over the last five seasons, squared off in the 2012 conference finals. The Spurs jumped out to a 2-0 lead, but OKC ripped off four wins in a row before losing to Miami in the NBA Finals. All told, the Thunder have won 10 of the last 12 against the Spurs, bringing the latest in a long line of doubts about San Antonio's ability to stay on top.

Key matchup I: Kevin Durant vs. Kawhi Leonard. The league's MVP meets one of the NBA's rising young stars in Leonard, the unflappable third-year swingman who relishes a challenge. The 6-foot-7 Leonard will be asked to defend perhaps the most gifted offensive player in the league, but he has had some success against Durant in the past.

Key matchup II: Gregg Popovich vs. Scott Brooks. Popovich has won coach of the year honors two of the last three seasons and is widely considered the game's best coach. All Brooks has done is win at least 50 games in four of the last five years and lead the Thunder to the finals in 2012. But he is often criticized when the offense stagnates and could still be on the hot seat if Oklahoma City falls short this season.

X-factor: Serge Ibaka. The Thunder's defensive specialist was terrific against the Spurs this season, averaging 14.0 points, 11.5 rebounds and 4.0 blocks in the four games. But the power forward will miss the rest of the playoffs with an injured left calf.

Reggie Jackson. The Thunder guard averaged 21.3 points on 68 percent shooting against San Antonio in the regular season. "If anybody watched our games, they watched Reggie Jackson basically be the Spur killer every time we play them." — Popovich.

Prediction: Spurs in 6.
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3996 on: May 17, 2014 at 07:42 AM »
Serge Ibaka will be out for the rest of the playoffs due to calf injury
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3997 on: May 17, 2014 at 09:27 AM »
^ I'm expecting pa naman that OKC will have their rematch against Miami, sayang kung injured si Ibaka. Pero sa tingin ko, medyo mabigat din ang injury ni Tony Parker, ayaw lang ipa-alam 'yung totoo ng Spurs.  Last time OKC and SA met in the WCF, akala ng marami ilalampaso lang ng SA ang OKC, nagkamali sila.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3998 on: May 17, 2014 at 10:07 AM »
KD obviously struggled in Game 5.  And Westbrook carried the Thunder while KD was shooting bricks (3 of 17 going to the 4th).   If not for Westbrook, the Clips would have blown the game away.  Westbrook kept the game close until KD hit his stride in the 4th.  And oh, Westbrook also converted 3 pressure packed FTs to win the game for OKC.  Clearly, Westbrook owned that game.  Not KD. 

Game 6 was different.  KD delivered a performance expected from an MVP.  39 pts, 16 boards, 5 assists and 2 blocks in a close out game is par excellence.  Westbrook struggled but didn't really matter because of KD's savvy.

There's no denying Westbrook had an excellent game.  I was not disputing that.  Before KD exploded, Clips were up by 11 I think with 3:30 to go...that's 11pts.  And 11pts is not what you call close.  So no matter how many points Westbrook scored at that point be it 30, 40, 50, it was still an 11pt deficit with 3mins remaining.  Then KD made his move.  I could also argue that w/o KD delivering during the last 3mins, Westbrook's 3FTs wouldn't have mattered.

The contention was not Westbrook owning the game.  Your contention was KD not putting his stamp in the game being the newly crowned MVP and not having the heart of a warrior.  Plus you mentioned he was tentative.

Oo nga eh.  Masakit sa mata panoorin si KD so far.. I hope he wakes up and carries his team in the 4th Quarter.   The MVP should take charge. 

End of 3rd.  Durant is 3 of 17 >:(

I'd say he woke up and carried his team in the 4th.  And the MVP did take charge.....10pts in 3mins.


Dpogs, wag natin pressure-in si KD.  Baka lalong daga-in na naman.  ( bulong na lang .... gooo kd! )

It seems KD has become tentative. And has lost his rhythm. And ayaw di sya pasahan ng bola ni Westbrook!!

Well obviously for those three mins, he was not.  If it weren't for KD, the 3 FTs of Westbrook nga would bear no importance.
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Re: Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #3999 on: May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM »
^ I'm expecting pa naman that OKC will have their rematch against Miami, sayang kung injured si Ibaka. Pero sa tingin ko, medyo mabigat din ang injury ni Tony Parker, ayaw lang ipa-alam 'yung totoo ng Spurs.  Last time OKC and SA met in the WCF, akala ng marami ilalampaso lang ng SA ang OKC, nagkamali sila.

"Ayaw lang ipaalam yung totoo ng Spurs"

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??? Bakit naman itatago? Anong benefit makukuha nila pag sinikreto nila?

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With the Ibaka injury, Spurs should take this in 5 games.
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4000 on: May 17, 2014 at 11:29 AM »
Ibaka being injured is on different magnitude with Parker being injured. Parker's contribution we'll be missed but Ibaka's defense and scoring ability will surely hurt OKC in a big way.

But if we take everything in consideration, a healthy Spurs team will beat a healthy OKC. This Spurs team is deeper and much better than the Spurs that was defeated by OKC 2 years ago.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4001 on: May 17, 2014 at 12:36 PM »
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4002 on: May 17, 2014 at 03:00 PM »
"Ayaw lang ipaalam yung totoo ng Spurs"

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??? Bakit naman itatago? Anong benefit makukuha nila pag sinikreto nila?

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With the Ibaka injury, Spurs should take this in 5 games.


Strategy at Game Plan ng kalaban magbabago. Kahit saan namang sports, itinatago 'yung real story ng injury, kasi malalaman agad kung saan ang weakness. Key player pa naman si Tony Parker, kung malala talaga injury nya mas lugi Spurs.  ;)
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4003 on: May 17, 2014 at 04:45 PM »
French exit: Spurs star Tony Parker begs off from FIBA World Cup
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/french-exit-spurs-star-tony-parker-begs-off-from-fiba-world-cup

San Antonio Spurs guard Tony Parker will not take part in this year’s World Cup with France as he needs to rest, the French Basketball Federation (FFBB) said on Friday.

Parker, a three-time NBA champion, led France to their first continental title last year and was named 2013 European Player of the year.

“Tony Parker is not in the squad. (Coach) Vincent Collet and I want him to take some rest after many demanding campaigns with France and demanding seasons with his club,” the national technical director Patrick Beesley said in a statement.

The 31-year-old Parker has had a busy season in the NBA and is doubtful for Tuesday’s opening match of the Western Conference final against Oklahoma City Thunder after picking up a thigh injury this week.

The World Cup will take place from Aug. 30 to Sept. 14 in Spain.

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Re: Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4004 on: May 17, 2014 at 04:56 PM »
Strategy at Game Plan ng kalaban magbabago. Kahit saan namang sports, itinatago 'yung real story ng injury, kasi malalaman agad kung saan ang weakness. Key player pa naman si Tony Parker, kung malala talaga injury nya mas lugi Spurs.  ;)

Er...kung malala talaga injury ni TP, it would be better kung di na lang siya paglaruin.

Besides kung serious yung injury, mahirap itago yan. I just find it silly na iisiping itatago yung totoong injury ni TP.

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« Reply #4005 on: May 17, 2014 at 06:38 PM »
Er...kung malala talaga injury ni TP, it would be better kung di na lang siya paglaruin.

Besides kung serious yung injury, mahirap itago yan. I just find it silly na iisiping itatago yung totoong injury ni TP.

Sa sports hindi lang naman physicality at skills pinapagana, kasama na din dyan psywar, everything counts, lahat ng pwedeng gawin. Para sa'kin natural lang 'yun, itago 'yung injury. Sa post ko nga sa itaas nag opted out si Parker sa FIBA at doubtful kung makakalaro sya sa Tuesday, pero sabi ng Spurs hindi daw mabigat injury nya.

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Re: Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4006 on: May 17, 2014 at 08:44 PM »
Sa sports hindi lang naman physicality at skills pinapagana, kasama na din dyan psywar, everything counts, lahat ng pwedeng gawin. Para sa'kin natural lang 'yun, itago 'yung injury. Sa post ko nga sa itaas nag opted out si Parker sa FIBA at doubtful kung makakalaro sya sa Tuesday, pero sabi ng Spurs hindi daw mabigat injury nya.

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Di lang Spurs nagsabi..si Parker mismo. He said it's fine. Even the MRI revealed it's not as bad as people feared. Really dont think your theory na tinatago yung severity ng injury is true.

Walang bearing yung pagback out nya sa FIBA sa severity. Nasa article naman explanation. Parker deserves the break from basketball action.

As for the doubtful-to-play status, normal lang yan kasi they'll evaluate if it's better to play him or let him rest to heal some more and avoid the risk of aggravating the injury. Precautionary lang yan.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4007 on: May 17, 2014 at 10:50 PM »
Er...kung malala talaga injury ni TP, it would be better kung di na lang siya paglaruin.

Besides kung serious yung injury, mahirap itago yan. I just find it silly na iisiping itatago yung totoong injury ni TP.

Yun knee injury noon ni KG around 2009 tinago ng Celtics yun seriousness.  Gusto kasi takutin din ng Boston ang kalaban kung kelan babalik sa line up si KG.  The first round was Chicago then Orlando in the second.  With each passing game, there were always speculations on whether KG will suit up or not.  When the opposing coaches were interviewed, they would say they would just prepare for Boston with the assumption that KG would play.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <PLAYOFFS>
« Reply #4008 on: May 17, 2014 at 11:01 PM »
Di lang Spurs nagsabi..si Parker mismo. He said it's fine. Even the MRI revealed it's not as bad as people feared. Really dont think your theory na tinatago yung severity ng injury is true.

Walang bearing yung pagback out nya sa FIBA sa severity. Nasa article naman explanation. Parker deserves the break from basketball action.

As for the doubtful-to-play status, normal lang yan kasi they'll evaluate if it's better to play him or let him rest to heal some more and avoid the risk of aggravating the injury. Precautionary lang yan.

Si Parker lang ba deserving ng break? How about Westbrook and Durant who will play for the US? Pwede na din sila mag back out. Hindi ka ba nag duda ang aga mag back out ni Tony Parker? Anyway, malalaman natin next week. I hope Paker's okey.

I'm going with the OKC Thunder sa West.

Sa East..., alam na !
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« Reply #4009 on: May 18, 2014 at 01:02 AM »
+1 okc..

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« Reply #4010 on: May 18, 2014 at 02:31 AM »
Spurs and Heat > then 3peat ng Heat. :) boom panis.
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« Reply #4011 on: May 18, 2014 at 03:47 AM »
Game 1 odds

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« Reply #4014 on: May 19, 2014 at 04:06 AM »
Lets go Heat!

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« Reply #4015 on: May 19, 2014 at 04:32 AM »
Beat the Heat!!!
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« Reply #4016 on: May 19, 2014 at 05:57 AM »
Tambak ang heat

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« Reply #4017 on: May 19, 2014 at 05:58 AM »
Bawi next game. :) indy played excellent today.

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« Reply #4018 on: May 19, 2014 at 06:11 AM »
Beat the Heat!

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« Reply #4019 on: May 19, 2014 at 06:29 AM »
Not a nice way to start the week for me  :(  ;D

Olats Heat!

Ihanda na ang "Kangkungan Resort and Spa" umpisa na ulit ng lubluban  ;D

Let's Go Heat!
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