Author Topic: Some R3 DVD's features indicated in the box are not consistent. (Read 15636 times)

Tonton · « **on:** Dec 22, 2003 at 09:56 PM »

It has come to my attention, thanks to some really nasty and disturbing emails (

) that the Armageddon 2-disk special edition R3 release (well, at least the ones released here in the Philippines) lack some of the features indicated in the box or the leaf insert.

I bothered to check on the two discs and listed the exact features as I viewed and counted them:

Disc 1
- Chapter Selection
-- 1 to 27
- Set-up
-- Languages: English, Thai
-- Subtitles:English, Mandarin, Cantonese, Bahasa, Thai, Korean, English for the hearing impared

Disc 2
- Deleted Scenes
- Special Effects
-- Richard Hoover (he discusses the Shuttle Approach, Armadillo Jump, The Asteroid, Matte Paintings)
-- Hoyt Yeatman (he discusses the 11-second "Destruction of Paris" shot)
-- Pat McClung (generally, he discusses the Russion Space station sequences)
- Production Design
-- Michael White (he discusses the overall look of Armageddon, the wardrobe, asteroid set, design gallery, vision, armadillo and shuttles)
-- Storyboards (Armadillo Jump, Rock Storm)
- Aerosmith Music video (which includes interviews of band members)
- Theatrical Trailer (the main movie trailer)

The DISCREPANCIES - The ff. are the features printed in the box or insert that's not in the actual content:

Disc 1:
- Commentary Tracks by Michael Bay, Herry Bruckheimer, Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck
- Another track by John Schartzman, Dr. Joe Allen, and Ivan Beckey

Disc 2:
- Gag Reel: As I noticed, only one gag reel appears, and that gag is one of the deleted scenes.
- Teasers and TV Spots (one of those should be the SuperBowl tv spot "Everyone is watching the game... someone should be watching the sky.")

So as you can see, my friends, I too am dissappointed, to the point that I give you these facts. Please mga pare, don't be angry with me. I didn't know naman e, ok?

(Well, CAPT. BARBELL, it seems some of the original R3 releases are NOT as different as the pirated ones, eh? )

Life.

daigoro · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 22, 2003 at 10:10 PM »

This situation is not isolated to R3 dvds as instances where mislabeling in R1 dvds occur. nonetheless, it is far more frequent in R3's especially in recent Warner 2 discs releases. well, maybe they think we don't actually read or view the special features.

trojan7 · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 23, 2003 at 09:48 AM »

Could you site DVDs you have with this inconsistencies?

^_^x

Tonton · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 23, 2003 at 07:53 PM »

armgeddon

read my thread here:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=6;action=display;threadid=16773

jegiwong · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 23, 2003 at 09:39 PM »

For R3, I think Fast and furious is one of the example.

For R1, I have Irreversible. It lacks "making of" feature which is mentioned in the box.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 24, 2003 at 03:23 AM »

why? i think the answer to that is simple... because the people who make these dvds are simply human. and they make mistakes too.

as jegiwong has noted... this problem is not isolated to r3's alone but even r1's as well. (of course, i will be the first to admit that it happens more often to r3's).

in fact some members and myself have even noted that even warner (perhaps one of the more reliable manufacturers of dvds distributed here) seem to be making this kind of mistake quite often lately. EG: casblanca, sierra madre, american outlaws... etc...

i think the best thing we can do to protect ourselves as consumers is to visit sites like this... and learn from other buyers' experiences.

mauz20 · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 24, 2003 at 11:40 PM »

well, the only time i encountered this was with the powerpuff girls movie i bought for my cousin.

it had some features listed at the back that wasn't in the disc. i was glad that astrovision offered to have it replaced with another title since it seems that all powerpuff girls the movie dvd's were like that.

Mo®pHeOu$ · « **Reply #7 on:** Jan 10, 2004 at 07:10 AM »

well I think you can add the title Robin Hood Prince of Thieves Extended Edition R3 to the list of titles with incomplete indicated features.

boks · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 11, 2004 at 10:23 AM »

It's really disappointing for these things to happen but there are rare cases when unadverstised features are bonuses for us such as R3 Monsters Inc. DTS track. For the high price we pay for the DVDs, its a wonder why we can't get a more reliable product that's really worth our hard-earned money!

Mo®pHeOu$ · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 12, 2004 at 06:05 AM »

Some producers kasi don't even bother to check the DVD and compare it with the casing kung kulang nga. >:(Malas kung kulang...okey lang kung sobra. hehehe.

Y_meeh · « **Reply #10 on:** Feb 22, 2004 at 06:42 PM »

The Robin Hood Prince of Thieves (1938) starring Errol Flyn has inconsistencies with the cover too... there are no Errol Flynn trailers in disc 1

Y_meeh · « **Reply #11 on:** Feb 27, 2004 at 01:30 AM »

Dagdag na yung warner release ng Yankee Doodle Dandy

no James Cagney Trailers
and some other missing stuff in disc 2 and also the audio only delights

*me thinks... how come its always the trailers that gets deleted and the audio only delights*

Ice Cube · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 08, 2004 at 01:12 PM »

Dagdag ko dito yung The Mummy Ultimate Edition.

This dvd lacks so many features, including 2 commentary tracks.

toshiba · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 09, 2004 at 03:13 AM »

is this the new single disc version? thanks...

riverfan · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 09, 2004 at 04:25 PM »

I have something to add....

the DVD release of "Dogfight" starring Lili Taylor and River Phoenix...

it clearly states in the back portion of the case that it includes a cast/director/producer filmographies as part of its special features... however once that i viewed it, it is not included. However, it has a commentary and original theatrical trailer, but still it should still be included since the R1 counterpart has it. some may say that the filmographies is only a small part, but i still want value for my money.

i wish that Warner could be more sensitive in those inconsistencies. if only i could have a refund or at least a replacement copy which includes the filmographies.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 10, 2004 at 04:58 AM »

Quote from: riverfan on Mar 09, 2004 at 04:25 PM

I have something to add....

the DVD release of "Dogfight" starring Lili Taylor and River Phoenix...

it clearly states in the back portion of the case that it includes a cast/director/producer filmographies as part of its special features... however once that i viewed it, it is not included. However, it has a commentary and original theatrical trailer, but still it should still be included since the R1 counterpart has it. some may say that the filmographies is only a small part, but i still want value for my money.

i wish that Warner could be more sensitive in those inconsistencies. if only i could have a refund or at least a replacement copy which includes the filmographies.

welcome to the club (may nabili na rin akong ganiyan: marican outlaws) ... thankfully discs like these "used to be" an exception.

fiddlers_green · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 14, 2004 at 11:45 PM »

Does this still happen with Warner 2-disc special edition DVDs?

gurang · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 15, 2004 at 07:19 PM »

R3 version of Barcelona

According to the box, the only special features is the theatrical trailer. But when you view the disc pala, an audio commentary by Whitman and the cast is included din.

Y_meeh · « **Reply #18 on:** Oct 04, 2004 at 07:48 PM »

bumping this up because of the Robinhood issue

mongaddi · « **Reply #19 on:** Oct 04, 2004 at 07:52 PM »

Quote from: Ice Cube on Mar 08, 2004 at 01:12 PM

Dagdag ko dito yung The Mummy Ultimate Edition.

This dvd lacks so many features, including 2 commentary tracks.

meron naman ah

Mr. Hankey · « **Reply #20 on:** Oct 04, 2004 at 09:04 PM »

Quote from: firewired on Oct 04, 2004 at 07:27 PM

Perhaps Mr. Hankey and I can put put together a list of "defective" R3 DVD releases and make it a sticky. We'll limit it to those that identify features in the packaging that aren't found on the discs. PM me if you have stuff in your R3 collection that we missed.

I'm on it, boss!

Found this thread and made it "sticky", so it'll stay near the top of the board.

Off the top of my head, I'll add the following titles:

1. West Wing Season Two

2. Wonder Woman Season One

Both do not contain audio commentaries, despite commentaries being listed on the box.

3. Friends Season 1 & 2 R3 Reissues - Despite the "Now With Footage You've Never Seen" print on the box, according to those who've bought them and posted about them on this forum, these discs do not contain the extended versions of the episodes.

4. Evolution - Does not contain deleted scenes (I'm not sure if deleted scenes is listed on the box, though - but some people complained about it here when it was first released).

5. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) - Read about the many missing features here.

6. Casablanca - missing one theatrical trailer (not bad)

More to follow when I think of others...

cherubrock · « **Reply #21 on:** Oct 04, 2004 at 10:57 PM »

How about a similar thread in the R1 board?

On a good note, Monsters Inc. R3's cover does not indicate a DTS track, which I'm happy to report it has! I think Hemisphere has mentioned that this is an exclusive to the Asian release.

Mr. Hankey · « **Reply #22 on:** Oct 04, 2004 at 11:37 PM »

Adding:

1. The Treasure of Sierra Madre - missing features listed here

2. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves - already discussed, more details here

dorian_gray · « **Reply #23 on:** Oct 05, 2004 at 02:05 AM »

The Road Home

Packaging indicates it is Full Screen but when played it is Wide Screen. Isn't this a good thing?

gurang · « **Reply #24 on:** Oct 05, 2004 at 02:12 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Hankey on Oct 04, 2004 at 09:04 PM

5. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) - Read about the many missing features here.

Strangely enough, the 1938 Robin Hood disc does contain the introduction by Leonard Maltin. Problem is, there is no link to it from any of the menus, you'd have to access it from your player's program search. I don't think its embedded as an Easter Egg either, and besides, it is advertised on the cover as the intro to the "Night at the Movies" portion.

I checked Yankee Doodle and Sierra Madre (which mistakenly promise the same feature) if there is a hidden introduction, but there is none. I wonder what issues Leonard Maltin has got against us Southeast Asians that he would refuse to license his face or voice for R3 release.

Reading through this thread, and all related threads of late, my "beautiful friendship" with Warners has come to an end. Sigh.

firewired · « **Reply #25 on:** Oct 06, 2004 at 08:21 PM »

West Wing Season One
Missing commentary on key episodes although it's listed as a special feature.

benoy12 · « **Reply #26 on:** Oct 09, 2004 at 08:24 AM »

Chicken Run- no DTS, no read along feature
Once Upon a time in mexico- no second commentary about the music
Thelma and Louise- 2 disc siya pero wala yung second commentary and original featurette.

jetcmd · « **Reply #27 on:** Oct 09, 2004 at 08:46 AM »

My Big Fat Greek Wedding, again by Warner, is a glaring example of this inconsistency!

firewired · « **Reply #28 on:** Oct 09, 2004 at 09:02 AM »

What's wrong with My Big Fat Greek Wedding? The commentaries aren't available?

manilabynight · « **Reply #29 on:** Oct 09, 2004 at 12:05 PM »

In short .... madaming palpak sa R3 DVD's as compared to the R1's. Hmmmpffff! Talagang itong mga local manufacturers ng DVD's dapat ayusin nila and even improve yung manufacturing process nila ng local DVD's!!!

No wonder I still look for R1's kasi usually the quality is better (and more complete!)

Calling the attention of all those DVD's manufacturers in the Philippines .......