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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #510 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 07:05 AM »
The DIY guy does not have a fix budget to improve the quality of the product, the R&D are working on a certain budget.   

the topic makes me wonder about corp r&d versus individual diy. if the single diy'er can claim his work sounds better, then the research group should be totally eliminated in the development and manufacturing equation. if good sound is dependent on one's subjective perception, then r&d is almost negligible.
does fabricated sound have international standards?
how do speaker diy'ers tweak the sound, by ear?

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #511 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 09:40 AM »
Hi RM

Tumatanda narin ako ng untiunti dito sa hobby na ito.

For the wires, I agree with Jojo that, electrically, the sizes are more than adequate to handle the power that the amp will deliver within the limits of your speaker.  If you want to experiment on wires, from my experience, the replacement should be made on the quality and/or construction of the wire material.  Just changing the size or gage is still 50/50 chance or no change at all.  The objective is less resistance so that you get uncolored or undistorted signal (no more, no less).  For me I do not agree in tuning your speakers from the wires, otherwise it gets very complicated.  Of course, if you find that the wires are substandard or of bad quality, change it by all means.  Wires should not contribute any effect or should not enhance or degrade the sound.  As long as the wires are protected from EMI, RFI and other unwanted artifacts plus you have good wire material and construction.....ok ka na.

Haaaay wires pa lang ito......hehehehe. Ika nga nila, "Kaya nga hobby eh"  :D :D :D

And siya nga pala...What's important in audio is the synergy or what they call matching of all the components from the source to the speakers including the wires and cables.  One may work in one's system and may may not work in another.  It really subjective because each person have different ears and different way of hearing. It may may be good sound to one but not to another.  What's important is you enjoy the music and not enjoy the components ---- OR Listen to the music and not listen to the components...... ;)




I also implied I probably (or might) replace some x'over parts (see the difference). I was just stunned by how tiny the wires were, so I think I had to rewire.
« Last Edit: Mar 13, 2012 at 09:44 AM by JoeyGS »

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #512 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 09:48 AM »
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What's important is you enjoy the music and not enjoy the components ---- OR Listen to the music and not listen to the components......

my theory since day 1......but some people would like to learn the hard way and see for themselves, instead of listening to those who have been there before.... 8)

in this hobby, there are lots of hypes...... :D
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #513 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 10:04 AM »
Yup, right.

Baka naman some of them really just want to experience the path that we took.  On the other hand kasi, for me, nag-enjoy din ako sa mga discoveries from the mistakes and successes.  Sometimes din, masarap yung nag-experiment and get the results, whether bad or good.

And, for that, our role naman is just to share our exeprience as part of our due diligence for the community.  I just hope that they take it constructively.  In the end, it's up to them....iba iba naman ang hilig eh.


my theory since day 1......but some people would like to learn the hard way and see for themselves, instead of listening to those who have been there before.... 8)

in this hobby, there are lots of hypes...... :D

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #514 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 10:14 AM »
Yup, right.

Baka naman some of them really just want to experience the path that we took.  On the other hand kasi, for me, nag-enjoy din ako sa mga discoveries from the mistakes and successes.  Sometimes din, masarap yung nag-experiment and get the results, whether bad or good.

And, for that, our role naman is just to share our exeprience as part of our due diligence for the community.  I just hope that they take it constructively.  In the end, it's up to them....iba iba naman ang hilig eh.


ingat lang dapat! i remember toasting an amp during my early speaker building/tweaking days, naikabit ko kasi capacitor across the crossover input instead of after the inductor. i literally saw sparks flying inside my amp! taught me to be a lot more careful.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #515 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 01:17 PM »
The DIY guy does not have a fix budget to improve the quality of the product, the R&D are working on a certain budget.  

very true. but what if the diy is made to be marketed and sold?
hehe i know it's no longer diy per se but you might get what i mean.  :D
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« Reply #516 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 02:03 PM »
True..very true

Kaya..... listen and respect the elders.  Tiyak na may mapupulot kayo.  I owe my achievements in my career to the seniors/elders to whom I have listen to (including ang lahat ng mga sermon nila) and took it constructively.  Looking back ...... I made the right decision!


ingat lang dapat! i remember toasting an amp during my early speaker building/tweaking days, naikabit ko kasi capacitor across the crossover input instead of after the inductor. i literally saw sparks flying inside my amp! taught me to be a lot more careful.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #517 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 07:39 AM »
Add 100 pesos to the cost of the better wire, multiply that by 1000 units and thats the money you lost by adding that wire, yes you would have a better product at the expense of lower profits.  Budget gears is built around a certain cost, otherwise it would not be budget gears na.  The wire, capacitors and resistors are te best places to cut corners as it its not seen by the buyer.

very true. but what if the diy is made to be marketed and sold?
hehe i know it's no longer diy per se but you might get what i mean.  :D
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« Reply #518 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 07:42 AM »
True..very true

Kaya..... listen and respect the elders.  Tiyak na may mapupulot kayo.  I owe my achievements in my career to the seniors/elders to whom I have listen to (including ang lahat ng mga sermon nila) and took it constructively.  Looking back ...... I made the right decision!


langya ka joey ginawa mo pa 'kong elder!  ;D
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« Reply #519 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 07:50 AM »
langya ka joey ginawa mo pa 'kong elder!  ;D


good morning mga elderly braders!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #520 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 08:13 AM »
honored ba sa a/v shops ang senior citizen discount? makakuha na nga...  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #521 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 08:20 AM »
honored ba sa a/v shops ang senior citizen discount? makakuha na nga...  ;D ;D ;D


food and transportation lang yata subsidized yan brader...  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #522 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 08:34 AM »

good morning mga elderly braders!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

gud morning din....lapit na kong maging dual citizen.... :D :D :D
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« Reply #523 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 09:37 AM »
gud morning din....lapit na kong maging dual citizen.... :D :D :D


ayos malapit ka na pala mag level up!  :D :D :D


seriously, dami din privileges nun ah sayang din...  ;)

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« Reply #524 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 10:29 AM »
Hahahaha.... sorry for that..... what I meant was for those who are experienced..... na-shortcut kasi kaya "elder" yung nagamit


langya ka joey ginawa mo pa 'kong elder!  ;D

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« Reply #525 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 10:31 AM »
Hahaha ..... malapit na akong mag-golden natal day. ;D ;D ;D



good morning mga elderly braders!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #526 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM »
Hahaha ..... malapit na akong mag-golden natal day. ;D ;D ;D



uy malapit ka na din pala mag super sayan level!  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #527 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 02:22 PM »
Hahahaha.... sorry for that..... what I meant was for those who are experienced..... na-shortcut kasi kaya "elder" yung nagamit


bawal nga text speak eh...  ;D
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« Reply #528 on: Mar 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM »
Oo nga..... dadating ka rin dun  :D :D :D


uy malapit ka na din pala mag super sayan level!  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #529 on: Mar 15, 2012 at 11:16 AM »
Oo nga eh .... nahahawa na ako sa mga younger generation ..... eh dati naman di puwede yan kundi lagot ka sa mga maestro  :D :D :D

bawal nga text speak eh...  ;D

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« Reply #530 on: Mar 17, 2012 at 03:20 PM »
Your welcome bro, good luck.

Any other speaker diyers here?

I have the drivers and crosssover and wirings for an old speaker I inherited. I would like to incorporate them into a mid sized bookshelf baffles. Please pm me if you could help me with this project? TIA  :)
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #531 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 04:33 PM »
Hi : Any tips on how to apply veneer on MDF?

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« Reply #532 on: Apr 13, 2012 at 08:40 AM »
I have the drivers and crosssover and wirings for an old speaker I inherited. I would like to incorporate them into a mid sized bookshelf baffles. Please pm me if you could help me with this project? TIA  :)


Why don't you just post it here so that others can also see. Do you have pics of those drivers? Any specs about them would be helpful for sure.

Sorry for the late reply.  :)

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #533 on: Apr 13, 2012 at 08:15 PM »
Sorry for the late reply.  :)

huli man daw at magaling nakukuha pa rin sa haplos... ;D

i probably would think that those old drivers does not have the original cabinet anymore or does it?

i would probably stick to the original box volume these were intended for. in the absence of driver's specifications it would be difficult to design a baffle that would suit them.

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« Reply #534 on: Apr 14, 2012 at 07:59 PM »
Anybody here in the know in making DIY transmission baffles? Please share thanks!
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« Reply #535 on: Apr 14, 2012 at 08:02 PM »

Why don't you just post it here so that others can also see. Do you have pics of those drivers? Any specs about them would be helpful for sure.

Sorry for the late reply.  :)

Markcrenz got the speakers already hehe
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« Reply #536 on: Apr 14, 2012 at 08:37 PM »
Anybody here in the know in making DIY transmission baffles? Please share thanks!

Trod93 has made a couple of those.  ;)

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« Reply #537 on: Apr 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM »
Markcrenz got the speakers already hehe
what sort of drivers? what size?

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #539 on: Apr 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM »
congratulations! that was a great buy!