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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1350 on: Jun 09, 2015 at 06:12 PM »
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1351 on: Jun 09, 2015 at 06:45 PM »
ano magandang wood for speaker enclosure available locally?

Do you mean as cabinet material and not as outer ply or veneer?

In my experience, it is not advisable to use pure solid wood panels as they are prone to cracking which may affect the speaker's performance especially for ported enclosures. Not much of a problem though with open baffle speakers.

Much better to use solid wood panels as the exterior ply or laminate of speakers made of plywood or mdf.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1352 on: Jun 10, 2015 at 03:12 PM »
Do you mean as cabinet material and not as outer ply or veneer?

In my experience, it is not advisable to use pure solid wood panels as they are prone to cracking which may affect the speaker's performance especially for ported enclosures. Not much of a problem though with open baffle speakers.

Much better to use solid wood panels as the exterior ply or laminate of speakers made of plywood or mdf.

gagawa kasi ako ng box for a 2 way speaker, province sir yung sa amen, traditional hardware and lumber store yung available mostly ordinary plywood or plyboard..

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1353 on: Jun 10, 2015 at 04:01 PM »
gagawa kasi ako ng box for a 2 way speaker, province sir yung sa amen, traditional hardware and lumber store yung available mostly ordinary plywood or plyboard..

I suggest you use 1/2" -3/4" ply (marine ply is better) then laminate 1/2" thk solid wood panels to the plywood if you can get such thickness. In Pampanga, we have manual slicers that can cut wood up to 1/2"thk. The thicker the panels of the speaker box, the less bracing you will need.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1354 on: Jun 10, 2015 at 05:24 PM »
I suggest you use 1/2" -3/4" ply (marine ply is better) then laminate 1/2" thk solid wood panels to the plywood if you can get such thickness. In Pampanga, we have manual slicers that can cut wood up to 1/2"thk. The thicker the panels of the speaker box, the less bracing you will need.

salamat sir, hahanap na lang ako ng magandang box  design for 7inch woofer at vifa tweeter...

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« Reply #1355 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 07:03 PM »
After sanding the cabinets, doing some retouchings, and application of several coats of sanding sealer, the almost finished AN cabinets











Application of top coat to follow.
« Last Edit: Jun 16, 2015 at 07:16 PM by camoteque »

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1356 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 07:05 PM »
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1357 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 07:12 PM »
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1358 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 07:18 PM »
Thanks bros!

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1359 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 07:43 PM »
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1360 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 07:47 PM »
Wow! Congratulations Sir Larry! HANEP!
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1361 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 08:01 PM »
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1362 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 08:29 PM »
Thanks.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1363 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 08:53 PM »
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1364 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 09:12 PM »
If it's from Larry, it must be good!

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1365 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 09:51 PM »
bro larry na sound check mo na yung classic 10 sa box? kamusta SQ?
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1366 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 10:11 PM »
If it's from Larry, it must be good!

Thanks. Your foam dampening crate works. Though you must experiment how much you should place in the box. In this cabinet, 1 side per opposing panel is sufficient. The bottom part or half of the panel where the foam is placed, I stuffed with fiberglass.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1367 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 PM »
Thanks. Your foam dampening crate works. Though you must experiment how much you should place in the box. In this cabinet, 1 side per opposing panel is sufficient. The bottom part or half of the panel where the foam is placed, I stuffed with fiberglass.

That's sufficient already. Yeah, best thing is to really try it and best placement possible. There may be a rule of the thumb but then again, it really won't apply as different boxes and speakers produces different energies that should also suit the preference of the user.
Thank you Larry for confirming the results!

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1368 on: Jun 16, 2015 at 10:48 PM »
bro larry na sound check mo na yung classic 10 sa box? kamusta SQ?

Bro nung una, medyo prominent ang hi-mids. Medyo kulang sa bass (I experimented with placing the port at the bottom as requested by owner). Gagawa na sana ko ng bsc at zobel pero sabi ko try ko muna tweak ang port before doing anything electrically. Where before butas lang ang port, I decided to extend the port. In conjunction, binawasan ko ang stuffing like the thing I mentioned in the previous post. May bass na. Tuneful bass. I'm using a 2A3 SET amp, btw, with an aikido preamp playing spotify.

PERO, medyo may slight shout pa. Again, naisip ko kaya pa rin masolve ito mechanically. And mukang tama nga ako. Tried something with the dustcap, temporarily. I will measure later to see where the peak is coming from pag tapos na tapos na ang box.

Very transparent at efficient ang AN. Effortless sa SE 2A3 amp. Actually I am surprised na kahit walang whizzer cone, extended ang highs ng Classic.


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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1369 on: Jun 17, 2015 at 09:03 AM »
tama ka bro ganyan din observation ko dyan maganda ang mid at high at very detailed kahit walang whizzer cone at phase plug. Congrats to you and to the owner ang ganda ng outcome ng box classic talaga ang dating.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1370 on: Jun 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM »
Hi Larry,

Try placing teased fiberfill in the box space below the driver and before the port .... it may solve the shouty output.  Placing more of the dampening crate may have altered or reduced the desired or optimum free air volume of the speaker box.  You may just need to handle the standing waves which smears the mid frequencies.

Nice build on the box.

Bro nung una, medyo prominent ang hi-mids. Medyo kulang sa bass (I experimented with placing the port at the bottom as requested by owner). Gagawa na sana ko ng bsc at zobel pero sabi ko try ko muna tweak ang port before doing anything electrically. Where before butas lang ang port, I decided to extend the port. In conjunction, binawasan ko ang stuffing like the thing I mentioned in the previous post. May bass na. Tuneful bass. I'm using a 2A3 SET amp, btw, with an aikido preamp playing spotify.

PERO, medyo may slight shout pa. Again, naisip ko kaya pa rin masolve ito mechanically. And mukang tama nga ako. Tried something with the dustcap, temporarily. I will measure later to see where the peak is coming from pag tapos na tapos na ang box.

Very transparent at efficient ang AN. Effortless sa SE 2A3 amp. Actually I am surprised na kahit walang whizzer cone, extended ang highs ng Classic.



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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1371 on: Jun 17, 2015 at 11:33 AM »
Hi Larry,

Try placing teased fiberfill in the box space below the driver and before the port .... it may solve the shouty output.  Placing more of the dampening crate may have altered or reduced the desired or optimum free air volume of the speaker box.  You may just need to handle the standing waves which smears the mid frequencies.

Nice build on the box.

+1

Another beautiful build sir Larry. Congrats to you & the owner  O0

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1372 on: Jun 17, 2015 at 12:25 PM »
Try placing teased fiberfill in the box space below the driver and before the port .... it may solve the shouty output.  Placing more of the dampening crate may have altered or reduced the desired or optimum free air volume of the speaker box.  You may just need to handle the standing waves which smears the mid
Hi Larry,

Try placing teased fiberfill in the box space below the driver and before the port .... it may solve the shouty output.  Placing more of the dampening crate may have altered or reduced the desired or optimum free air volume of the speaker box.  You may just need to handle the standing waves which smears the mid frequencies.

Nice build on the box.

frequencies.

Nice build on the box.

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Thanks bro. I will try your suggestion.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1373 on: Jun 17, 2015 at 12:27 PM »
+1

Another beautiful build sir Larry. Congrats to you & the owner  O0

Thanks bro.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1374 on: Jun 17, 2015 at 01:58 PM »
AN drivers are known to be shouty on the first 100-200hrs, after 300 hrs, bass will show its true color, mids will be tamed and the highs will be detailed but not harsh, I experienced the same with my AN drivers during the time when they were still new.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1375 on: Jun 17, 2015 at 03:44 PM »
I don't know how long this AN pair has been used so maybe given more time, they will sound balanced. Anyway, a little temporary tweaking will do as the owner waits for the drivers to settle. Actually konti lang naman shout nadidinig ko.  If you listen to music without voice, panalo na siya. I tried to dampen the dustcap a little bit by attaching a thin ring of fiberfill and the shout was greatly diminished. I will try Joey's suggestion kasi di maganda tingnan may nakadikit sa dustcap. Ha ha.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1376 on: Jun 18, 2015 at 08:07 AM »
Im sure those heavenly pair of speaker boxes will sound really good with Audio Nirvana 10s, congratulations in advance to the new owner!!! Kakainggit yung speaker box!!! Tulo laway ako!

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Re: AN Project Development
« Reply #1377 on: Jun 18, 2015 at 09:18 AM »
After sanding the cabinets, doing some retouchings, and application of several coats of sanding sealer, the almost finished AN cabinets



Application of top coat to follow.

Ang galing.  Kamusta ka initial SQ sir Larry?  Sana kahit konti SQ review sa downfiring cab nito.  Thanks.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1378 on: Jun 18, 2015 at 09:29 AM »
Wow, now that is how a real craftsman creates :o
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1379 on: Jun 18, 2015 at 11:11 AM »
@camoteque,

any recommendation for 2way speaker box design, 7inch woofer and 2 inch tweeter?