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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #360 on: Feb 18, 2008 at 12:54 PM »
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #361 on: Feb 18, 2008 at 06:36 PM »
Here's a clue:

Its a monoblock
Cabling are made of gold alloy
Premium caps

Would you like to know more?  ::) hehehe

Now up an running !   ;D

its heavy.  its tuuubey hahaha

oh yes.  Nahilo ako sa dami ng te-test ko na tubes.  Matagal na process pero at least I know kung malakas pa tubes ko.   Mas mahal ngayon mag tube roll sa power amp !  >:(

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**Balita ko meron isa diyan magbebenta ng Leisure 2SE, at mag V3 !    :-X
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #362 on: Feb 18, 2008 at 06:49 PM »
Hehehe.  Tube rolling is fun :) Just dont burn yourself

umm... V3M is one hell of a speaker.  who is upgrading kaya?  Leisure 2SE is a steal at its price.

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #363 on: Feb 19, 2008 at 10:26 PM »




EQUIPMENT :
Cayin 860 Monoblock - Upgraded to Mundorf Gold/Silver caps and Supreme
Cayin SC-6 Pre amp - Upgraded to ALL Mundorf Gold/Silver Caps
Cayin CD17t Player - Upgraded to ALL Mundorf Gold/Silver Caps, plus Upgraded 6 opamps.
ALL Mundorf IC with Rhodium plugs
Mundorf Speaker Cable
Aurum Cantus Moon River Mini Speakers with Mundorf Caps

2kVA Servo Motor
DIY Shunyata Braid Power Cord with Oyaide AC/IEC.
Xindak XF 1000 Line Conditioner


What can I say?  Equipment matching found.   Ears very happy !  =)

.................if V6 goes 50% off, yan ang susunod !  hehe.

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #364 on: Feb 20, 2008 at 08:08 AM »
Wow !!!

great rig sir le_stat!

with all those tubes.... not only is the sound WARM!
also the room!  ;D

ultimate setup na ata yan!!! lalaway ako!

whats that gear na nakapatong sa cdp sir?



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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #365 on: Feb 20, 2008 at 08:50 AM »

whats that gear na nakapatong sa cdp sir?


Samsung 1080p7 DVD Upscaler is on top of the cdp.

With all of these tubes, you also need a tube tester to avoid the hassle of going outside for someone to check for you the readings.
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #366 on: Feb 20, 2008 at 09:31 AM »
Guys,

Any tube pre amp you could recommend to pair with bada 2 channel power amp?

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #367 on: Feb 21, 2008 at 11:42 PM »


EQUIPMENT :
Cayin 860 Monoblock - Upgraded to Mundorf Gold/Silver caps and Supreme
Cayin SC-6 Pre amp - Upgraded to ALL Mundorf Gold/Silver Caps
Cayin CD17t Player - Upgraded to ALL Mundorf Gold/Silver Caps, plus Upgraded 6 opamps.
ALL Mundorf IC with Rhodium plugs
Mundorf Speaker Cable
Aurum Cantus Moon River Mini Speakers with Mundorf Caps

2kVA Servo Motor
DIY Shunyata Braid Power Cord with Oyaide AC/IEC.
Xindak XF 1000 Line Conditioner


What can I say?  Equipment matching found.   Ears very happy !  =)

.................if V6 goes 50% off, yan ang susunod !  hehe.



Wow, awesome rig.  Congrats bro!  ;)

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #368 on: Feb 22, 2008 at 01:19 PM »
Darating na ba sa Pilipinas to and how much kaya:


INTEGRATED VACUUM TUBE AMPLIFIER SP-10A





According to Stereophile (http://blog.stereophile.com/ces2008/011108sp/) it can be made available with either KT88 or 6L6.

Willing to be a guinea pig if the price is right (just as soon as I can sell my 75wpc AMX) :-P
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #369 on: Feb 22, 2008 at 06:23 PM »
huwaw!   ang pogi pogi!   jim ito na lang antayin mo...

eto pala mga katerno niyang gears!



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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #370 on: Feb 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM »
if you guys like the vintage "wood" look we can bring them in for you guys.  indent order.  We will have a shipment soon so place your orders :)

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #371 on: Feb 26, 2008 at 09:50 PM »
what's the difference between the a50 with the 34 tubes versus the kt88 tubes?

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #372 on: Feb 27, 2008 at 04:59 PM »
Sir what you meant is A-50T with EL-34 tubes and A-55T with KT-88 tubes.

EL-34 is 35 watts and KT-88 is 40 watts.  Everything else is the same except for the tubes used.  There is no better tube as they have their own characteristics and taste is very subjective.  There are people who love EL-34 for its sweet sound but there are others who prefer KT-88 for its better bass.  Its very personal so my suggestion is audition both tubes and let your ears decide.

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #373 on: Feb 27, 2008 at 08:52 PM »
Sir what you meant is A-50T with EL-34 tubes and A-55T with KT-88 tubes.

EL-34 is 35 watts and KT-88 is 40 watts.  Everything else is the same except for the tubes used.  There is no better tube as they have their own characteristics and taste is very subjective.  There are people who love EL-34 for its sweet sound but there are others who prefer KT-88 for its better bass.  Its very personal so my suggestion is audition both tubes and let your ears decide.

pardon the ignorance... just starting with tubes.  so chief this means that tube amplifiers wattage is determined by tubes used?  another question... can KT-88 tubes fit amplifiers with EL-34 sockets?  have not really explored changing tubes and many say diff tubes have diff sound.  always believed though that when manufacturers chose the tubes for the specific amp built they are the ones that match with the whole scheme.
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #374 on: Feb 28, 2008 at 12:41 AM »
Sir what you meant is A-50T with EL-34 tubes and A-55T with KT-88 tubes.

EL-34 is 35 watts and KT-88 is 40 watts.  Everything else is the same except for the tubes used.  There is no better tube as they have their own characteristics and taste is very subjective.  There are people who love EL-34 for its sweet sound but there are others who prefer KT-88 for its better bass.  Its very personal so my suggestion is audition both tubes and let your ears decide.


thank you... do you have the a55 in stock? can i put kt88 tubes in the a50t?

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #375 on: Feb 28, 2008 at 06:09 AM »

can KT-88 tubes fit amplifiers with EL-34 sockets? 

Sockets are the same,  you can install kt88/kt90/6550 tubes in a "EL34 socket"  but the circuits behind the socket are not the same. Which if done can damage the amp or the tubes.  Some amplifiers from Cayin and others have switches that allows the user to switch between El34 and 6550 family of tubes


always believed though that when manufacturers chose the tubes for the specific amp built they are the ones that match with the whole scheme.

Yup, the tubes are chosen to match the tubes to a certain price point, kinda like cars, you can improve the performance by changing tires, spark plugs, etc...

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #376 on: Feb 28, 2008 at 09:31 AM »
pardon the ignorance... just starting with tubes.  so chief this means that tube amplifiers wattage is determined by tubes used?  another question... can KT-88 tubes fit amplifiers with EL-34 sockets?  have not really explored changing tubes and many say diff tubes have diff sound.  always believed though that when manufacturers chose the tubes for the specific amp built they are the ones that match with the whole scheme.

The second question was already answered so ill answer the first.

amp power is a determinant of the tubes used as well as its design.  It could be single ended = lower wattage or push pull = higher wattage.  Class A lower wattage or Class AB higher wattage.  But in general the bigger the tube the more power you can crank out of it... apples to apples. :)

ill look up some materials online and post it here.

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #377 on: Feb 28, 2008 at 09:34 AM »

thank you... do you have the a55 in stock? can i put kt88 tubes in the a50t?

Before Cayin named the KT-88/6550 version A55T.  This model was made for the EU market.  Now its just known as A-50T with KT-88 tubes :)  Both models are exactly the same except for one resistor inside and the tubes.  Of course the KT-88T version is a bit more expensive because the tube is more expensive than its el34 counterpart :)

a50T comes in silver or black faceplate

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #378 on: Feb 28, 2008 at 06:37 PM »
Get Mystere so you can have both KT88 and EL34 by just pushing a switch !  =)
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #379 on: Feb 29, 2008 at 10:52 AM »
Get Mystere so you can have both KT88 and EL34 by just pushing a switch !  =)

EVIL PERSON hahaha   ;D

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Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #380 on: Feb 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM »
EVIL PERSON hahaha   ;D

tulad ng sabi ng isang tao diyan..."gagastos ka lang kaka upgrade kung yang *toot tooooot* kunin mo!".   ;D 
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #381 on: Feb 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM »
my Cayin oven toaster has a switch  ;D

Get Mystere so you can have both KT88 and EL34 by just pushing a switch !  =)

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #382 on: Feb 29, 2008 at 02:47 PM »
tulad ng sabi ng isang tao diyan..."gagastos ka lang kaka upgrade kung yang *toot tooooot* kunin mo!".   ;D 

oo nge e.  kaso lang di na kinig si le stat.  yan tuloy hahaha...

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #383 on: Mar 01, 2008 at 11:52 PM »
updated....
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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #384 on: Mar 03, 2008 at 01:35 PM »
Just helping Cayin with a research question.

Would you buy an integrated tube amp with a built in phono-in? 

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #385 on: Mar 04, 2008 at 05:59 AM »
How much would the additional inputs cost if the base price is let say 50K ?
Does Cayin have a stand alone phone pre-amp ?

Just helping Cayin with a research question.

Would you buy an integrated tube amp with a built in phono-in? 

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #386 on: Mar 07, 2008 at 03:55 PM »
How much would the additional inputs cost if the base price is let say 50K ?
Does Cayin have a stand alone phone pre-amp ?


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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #387 on: Mar 09, 2008 at 07:37 PM »


amp power is a determinant of the tubes used as well as its design.  It could be single ended = lower wattage or push pull = higher wattage.  Class A lower wattage or Class AB higher wattage.  But in general the bigger the tube the more power you can crank out of it... apples to apples. :)

ill look up some materials online and post it here.


sir is the cayin a50 single ended or push-pull? what's the advantage or disadvantage to both in terms of sound?

in the specs of the a50, it has 2 power ratings, ultralinear and triode? whats the difference po?

thanks

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Re: Official Cayin Thread
« Reply #388 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 09:52 AM »
do you have a landline where we may call you to explain the details?  mahabang usapan ito hehehe.  Or you can call us at 395-5115

But for discussion sake anyone want to take a stab :)  triode vs ultralinear :)

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« Reply #389 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 11:50 AM »
do you have a landline where we may call you to explain the details?  mahabang usapan ito hehehe.  Or you can call us at 395-5115

But for discussion sake anyone want to take a stab :)  triode vs ultralinear :)



 ;D ... will pass by na lang sir sa shop nyo. will look at the pre-amps you have ...

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