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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #240 on: Sep 15, 2005 at 04:36 PM »
good luck, jcob! :D :D :D na-DALI ka pala! :D

koya, please check LP post mo (ay OT na pala!)...thanks! :D

superman,

nakaDALI ka na rin di ba?? ;) ;) ;)

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #241 on: Sep 15, 2005 at 04:48 PM »
supes,

DALI na nga ba ipinalit mo sa SOLS mo?  Ikon or concept?  :)

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #242 on: Sep 21, 2005 at 09:25 AM »
superman,

nakaDALI ka na rin di ba?? ;) ;) ;)
supes,

DALI na nga ba ipinalit mo sa SOLS mo? Ikon or concept? :)

wala pa po, out from audio for the next few weeks, still here in davao...thanks! :D
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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #243 on: Sep 22, 2005 at 12:26 PM »
wala pa po, out from audio for the next few weeks, still here in davao...thanks! :D

Mali pala yun source and tsismis narinig ko.  ;) ;)

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #244 on: Sep 23, 2005 at 08:58 AM »
Mali pala yun source and tsismis narinig ko. ;) ;)

oo nga eh, medyo sablay ang tsismaks :D :D :D :D
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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #245 on: Sep 25, 2005 at 10:02 AM »
I finally heard the Dali Concept's (2 and 6) w/ an HK receiver and NeuNeo DVD player. My time w/ them is quite short so the ff are just first impressions.

They are indeed detailed, but not too much. Used w/ "warm" electronics, I believe you'll have many hours enjoying them w/o fatigue. They are also loud. Given the same volume setting, they play noticeably louder than the Wharfedale 9.6's and the AE Evo 1's.

Comparing both Dali's, I find the Concept 2 better sounding than the 6. I felt it gave a more balanced presentation.

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #246 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 12:50 AM »
Bumblebee, thank you for your honest opinion :):):)

The DALI Concept Series, when matched properly, can really give you many hours of unfatiguing musicality.

During the recent shoot-out, some participants indicated that the highs of the Concept 6s were quite tiring.  We were actually surprised with this comment.  However, that's what they heard, and we respect their opinions :)  Many speakers, despite the fact that they are naturally warm sounding, can still sound fatiguing when not partnered with the right equipment.  I used to have a Sonus Faber Concerto Home speakers.  I  liked their warm and full-bodied sound very much.  Hooked them up to an integrated Denon amplifier and they were screeching so badly.  I never thought that a Sonus can sound like that.  It can't be said more than enough that system matching is key in getting the sound that you like :):):)  The participants in the shoot-out indicated this as well.  Thank you for doing so :)


They are indeed detailed, but not too much.

Bumblebee, I hope you don't mind if I comment on your statement above :):):)

There are times when Detail is somewhat used to indicate Brightness.  During my first years in audio, this was my understanding.  But as I got exposed to more audio systems, I learned that more detail does not necessarily mean more brightness.  Let me give an example: PRIMARE electronics.  Their House Sound is basically smooth, warm and full-bodied.  As you listen to their higher models, their house sound remains intact but they provide greater detail, meaning detailed warm and smooth (not bright).  Detail is a very good thing as long as its tonality is presented in a non fatiguing way :)  And to us at AA, this is one of the strengths of the Concept Series :)  Because they are detailed, one can easily capture the timing and dynamic contrast of the music without being fatiguing, making the listening experience more engaging :)

Also, brightness should not be mistaken for greater detail.  When an equipment is bright, it seems to sound like it's more detailed.  But if you listen closely, the detail is not really there, it's just that the frequencies are uneven, giving you an impression of greater detail.

I hope you guys learn something from this post :):):)

Enjoy The Music!!!  ;)



I finally heard the Dali Concept's (2 and 6) w/ an HK receiver and NeuNeo DVD player. My time w/ them is quite short so the ff are just first impressions.

They are indeed detailed, but not too much. Used w/ "warm" electronics, I believe you'll have many hours enjoying them w/o fatigue. They are also loud. Given the same volume setting, they play noticeably louder than the Wharfedale 9.6's and the AE Evo 1's.

Comparing both Dali's, I find the Concept 2 better sounding than the 6. I felt it gave a more balanced presentation.

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #247 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 04:31 AM »
Sir AA,

Sorry for the confusion :-[, as you can see, I didn't describe them as bright. I'll explain more later. Medyo nagmamaDALI lang po ako ;D

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #248 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 08:44 AM »
hi bumblebee! looks like na-DALI ka na rin, hehehe! :D :D :D advance congrats, hehehehe! :D :D :D
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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #249 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 10:05 AM »
Hi Bumblebee,

Sorry din sa confusion :)  Yung statement ko was in general so to speak, not per se regarding your observation.  We have received statements indicating that the Concepts are very detailed, their politically correct way of saying  that they are bright (hehe, mabait kasi mga taga pinoydvd) :):):).  Kaya inexplain ko lang na having high degree of DETAIL is actually good as long as their tonality is non fatiguing :):):)

Thank you again bumblebee :)



Sir AA,

Sorry for the confusion :-[, as you can see, I didn't describe them as bright. I'll explain more later. Medyo nagmamaDALI lang po ako ;D
« Last Edit: Sep 27, 2005 at 10:45 AM by ArchitecturalAudio »

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #250 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 10:08 AM »
Concept 6 mated well will with 10Watt Duntonic tube amp! :) It's like you're listening with SET tube amp! ;D :)

AA is right, proper matching is the key and i find the Concept 6 matched well with the last gears we used during the shootout since i preferred the sound of SET. :)

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #251 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 12:26 PM »
Back to my impressions.

I listened to 2 songs. Half for the Concept 6, another half for the Wharfedale. The first half of the second song went to the AE Evo1 then the Concept 2. I'm not at all familiar w/ the songs w/c I think is good since I spent most of my time not listening to the songs but rather looking at and listening to the speakers.

Not Bright

I'm quite careful when using the terms "dull" and "bright" as they give negative impressions, except perhaps when I'm describing gears that I own (para no offense ;D) or if everybody else says so. Bright for me is something that is ear-piercing and heart-slashing (that sharp) w/ very little bass to even things up. Qualities that I didn't find in the Dali's. Surely, the upper frequencies were empahasized (you can check the FR curve from Stereoplay's review) but not in the manner that they will overwhelm the bass frequencies. The result is somewhat forward but not in-your-face.

Better w/ Tubes?

Basing on the characteristics of tubes that I have read about, I have a feeling that one'll enjoy the Dali's more w/ tube equipment. If one is after the lush, the sweet, the chocolatey, the syrupy and the soulful nature of tube sound, I think you'll find the Dali's very able in providing you w/ these. And of course, the Dali's are an easy load, nominal 8, minimum 4 ohms (I think, also from the review's impedance curve).

NaDALI?

Soundwise, w/ all the gears, volume level and material used kept constant, the short answer is yes. Especially the Concept 2. I just wished the other speakers were mated w/ gears that'll bring out the best in them. NAD C352 perhaps for the Wharfedale and NAD C320BEE/C521BEE for the AE (I really, really like this combo).

So, that's about it. Sana me kwenta ;D Many thanks to AA. Very nice place and very nice people.


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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #252 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 12:55 PM »
hi bumblebee! looks like na-DALI ka na rin, hehehe! :D :D :D advance congrats, hehehehe! :D :D :D

Sir Supes,

The Dali's are not difficult to like. Matching helps pro mangunguna pa rin ang preferences and biases ng makikinig :)
« Last Edit: Sep 27, 2005 at 01:16 PM by bumblebee »

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #253 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 01:00 PM »
bumblebee,

Di mahirap maDALI talaga!! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #254 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 01:28 PM »
Bumblebee,

Bili na!  ;D.

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #255 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 01:31 PM »
Bumblebee,

Bili na!  ;D.

La pa po pera e :'(

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #256 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 01:32 PM »
thanks for posting your impressions and experience with the Concepts you've listened to, bumblebee...it will surely help our fellow members who are considering the Dali Concepts...thanks! :D
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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #257 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 02:19 PM »
thanks for posting your impressions and experience with the Concepts you've listened to, bumblebee...it will surely help our fellow members who are considering the Dali Concepts...thanks! :D

Jen,

Post na your home audition experienced. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #258 on: Sep 27, 2005 at 05:35 PM »
nag-post na ako, koya...but not with my amp, TT and CDP...no time yet...thanks! :D
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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #259 on: Oct 05, 2005 at 09:36 PM »
The DALI Helicon 400 gets 5stars from What Hi-fi!




Giant Dalis prove big is beautiful!

"Like the Dali Ikon 6s we raved about recently, the Helicon 400s use a dome and a ribbon tweeter for the treble. The idea is to produce crisp, clean and extended highs with minimal sacrifice to dispersion – and it works."

"Stereo imaging is impressive for such a large pair of speakers, particularly in terms of focus. Additionally, their rich tonal balance adds body to the already-refined presentation....."

"...dynamics are strong, with the Helicons delivering Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture in savage fashion. There’s enough insight on offer to prevent things sounding messy when the piece gets going. Fine timing and an adorably fluid midrange mean the Dalis perform with the likes of Eminem, too."

VERDICT:  The Helicon 400s are extremely likeable speakers that combine refinement with bite.

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Other awards received by the Helicon 400s

The Absolute Sound Golden Ear Award 2004





Component of the Year (2004), Stereo Sound Japan

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These are available for auditioning at Architectural Audio :)

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #260 on: Oct 06, 2005 at 07:24 AM »
Levi's Ikon 6:

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #261 on: Oct 06, 2005 at 04:23 PM »
Superman,

Dapat pala sumama ako sa iyo last Sunday hehehe ;D

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #262 on: Oct 07, 2005 at 01:35 PM »
di ako natuloy, koya...naalanganin sa oras eh...baka sunday... :D
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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #263 on: Oct 09, 2005 at 09:20 AM »
di ako natuloy, koya...naalanganin sa oras eh...baka sunday... :D

Ganun ba.. :)

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #264 on: Oct 10, 2005 at 12:40 PM »
Guys,

Balita sa mga naka audition ng Concept 2?

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #265 on: Oct 10, 2005 at 12:44 PM »
Guys,

Balita sa mga naka audition ng Concept 2?

Sir Hans,

NaDALI ka na rin? :)

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #266 on: Oct 10, 2005 at 01:15 PM »
Sir Hans,

NaDALI ka na rin? :)

Hindi naman just curious kasi Concept 6 and Ikon 6 narinig ko lang. ;D ;D

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #267 on: Oct 10, 2005 at 03:11 PM »
Guys,

Balita sa mga naka audition ng Concept 2?

meron for sale na gears tapos nagtatanong ng concept 2?????   meron yatang ibig-sabihin ito.  ;D  ;D  ;D

naDALI ka na!!!!!!!

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #268 on: Oct 10, 2005 at 04:09 PM »
meron for sale na gears tapos nagtatanong ng concept 2?????   meron yatang ibig-sabihin ito.  ;D  ;D  ;D

naDALI ka na!!!!!!!

Again just curious.. sayang hindi na sama sa bookshelf session last Saturday..

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Re: DALI Speakers (Denmark)
« Reply #269 on: Oct 10, 2005 at 05:08 PM »
ganyan din dati eh! ;D


Again just curious.. sayang hindi na sama sa bookshelf session last Saturday..