Topic: What's the biggest reason why you won't go tubes?

[tony]

well many sell their gears anyway regardless....when the sawa factor sets in, then that is it...
plugging in and unplugging tubes, loosens the sockets, corrosion sets in and gas tightness is compromised...
in the old days, tubes are replaced only when they have gone bad.....
you do not just mess with your tube amps when they are running fine....

when that inevitable sawa factor sets in, then you can sell your tube gears...
that is why i recommend to those that seek my advice to have a pp and set tube,
and solid state amps as well....rotating these amps will give you variety.....

ask Dana, he has a lot of various types of gears in the house, brimming to the seams....

[CoolTOYZPH]

I was in the same predicament until someone lent me a tube amp and I was able to experience the tube sound. It certainly helps that there are more experienced members who share gears not to sell but for fellow music lovers to experience the tube sound. It is why I also offer to lend my gears to those interested to experience the tube sound.

I want to but I still need to learn a lot more. And I really hope to own one someday.

[mykel18]

I was in the same predicament until someone lent me a tube amp and I was able to experience the tube sound. It certainly helps that there are more experienced members who share gears not to sell but for fellow music lovers to experience the tube sound. It is why I also offer to lend my gears to those interested to experience the tube sound.

I actually like how it sounds. Was able to hear LM, Cayin, AMX, Tony's, Leben and some more. I just feel like I need to know more especially about the tubes. What are good and what are not. More on the technical side. Same way I did before buying my first turntable.

[sientobente]

Having owned a KT88 integrated amp, it sounds perfect on my bookshelves. The deal breaker was the power consumption. Compared to my SS integrated amp, the tube amp consumes 7x the electricity - 350w vs 50w. Not practical for regular use(local tv shows, tv series, movies).

[Nelson de Leon]

Having owned a KT88 integrated amp, it sounds perfect on my bookshelves. The deal breaker was the power consumption. Compared to my SS integrated amp, the tube amp consumes 7x the electricity - 350w vs 50w. Not practical for regular use(local tv shows, tv series, movies).

Ganyan naman madalas sinasabi natin pero maski malakas sa electricity, kapag gusto natin, end of story na. Hehe!

[sientobente]

Ganyan naman madalas sinasabi natin pero maski malakas sa electricity, kapag gusto natin, end of story na. Hehe!

Nakakahinayang kasi Konsi. Ginagamit pa ng maid namin yung tube amp pra panoorin si Kris Aquino sa umaga. Hehe!

[Nelson de Leon]

Nakakahinayang kasi Konsi. Ginagamit pa ng maid namin yung tube amp pra panoorin si Kris Aquino sa umaga. Hehe!

Naku ha. Usapan natin sikreto lang yan sa maid mo pero ni-broadcast mo na dito sa Pdvd.

[sientobente]

Naku ha. Usapan natin sikreto lang yan sa maid mo pero ni-broadcast mo na dito sa Pdvd.

LOL. Wala tayong kinalaman diyan Konsi! Haha!

[Courage]

Naku ha. Usapan natin sikreto lang yan sa maid mo pero ni-broadcast mo na dito sa Pdvd.

Wahahahahaha

[tony]

Having owned a KT88 integrated amp, it sounds perfect on my bookshelves. The deal breaker was the power consumption. Compared to my SS integrated amp, the tube amp consumes 7x the electricity - 350w vs 50w. Not practical for regular use(local tv shows, tv series, movies).

so very true......the dynaco ST70 has around 120 watts, the 211 pp amp done by AMX had a power consumption of 650 watts, so this is also one factor to consider...
SS amps. even the high end ones, will never approach tubes in power consumption at idle....
also with tube amps, the output tubes being lamps, has a shorter lifespan than most SS amps...

[tony]

I actually like how it sounds. Was able to hear LM, Cayin, AMX, Tony's, Leben and some more. I just feel like I need to know more especially about the tubes. What are good and what are not. More on the technical side. Same way I did before buying my first turntable.

the 12EN6 pp amp that i loaned out to cyberdraven, is now adopted by monks in a monastery somewhere in pampanga....it was an experiment about using tv tubes in a power amp....

[Courage]

I like to own one someday... but afraid of the ff

1. Electric bill
2. Maintenance
3. Heat
4. Since i dont know anything about tubes, i dont know kung ok sya sa LAHAT ng type ng music

[tony]

I like to own one someday... but afraid of the ff

1. Electric bill
2. Maintenance
3. Heat
4. Since i dont know anything about tubes, i dont know kung ok sya sa LAHAT ng type ng music

then don't go into tubes, best advise i can give you....
as far as #4 depende sa speakers mo....the speaker/amplifier combo matters a lot....

[Superman]

Jason, REMEMBER...the BEST amps paired with your speakers are:

1) Audio Note OTO SE Signature
2) Leben CS300
3) Almarro 318A/318B
4) Line Magnetic 219ia

Coincidentally, they're all tube amplifiers bro!

[Courage]

Jason, REMEMBER...the BEST amps paired with your speakers are:

1) Audio Note OTO SE Signature
2) Leben CS300
3) Almarro 318A/318B
4) Line Magnetic 219ia

Coincidentally, they're all tube amplifiers bro!

Kaya nga di ako nag audition ng mga yan paired with my speakers coz i dont want to face my fears he he he

[Courage]

then don't go into tubes, best advise i can give you....
as far as #4 depende sa speakers mo....the speaker/amplifier combo matters a lot....

Thats why my AMP is still SS, kahit pa kaliwat kanan ang pang kukulam ng mga members dito na Tube amp ang best for my speakers he he he

[tony]

Thats why my AMP is still SS, kahit pa kaliwat kanan ang pang kukulam ng mga members dito na Tube amp ang best for my speakers he he he

don't listen to them.....
what is best for your speakers is what makes you happy....
unless you want to start a new career in buying and selling tubes and tube amps.....

[junji]

Thanks Sir Tony sa mga advice mo, dami ko napupulot.

[tony]

Thanks Sir Tony sa mga advice mo, dami ko napupulot.

i am trying to save you guys a lot of money....

[Courage]

don't listen to them.....
what is best for your speakers is what makes you happy....
unless you want to start a new career in buying and selling tubes and tube amps.....

I agree with you sir tony...

[tony]

I agree with you sir tony...

ask those mangkukulam kung ano ang mga naging amps nya, gaano nagtagal sa kanya, at bakit
ibinenta....

but don't get me wrong, i am a tube head/fanatic,
but i have my own reasons why i like tubes better than SS....
and those who do not know what i know will never understand....

[CoolTOYZPH]

Agree with 1 to 2. Nevertheless, addicted to the holographic tube sound and must suffer the consequence
On No.3 Heat is not too much of an issue.
On No.4 I think it is more dependent on speaker then AMP.

I like to own one someday... but afraid of the ff

1. Electric bill
2. Maintenance
3. Heat
4. Since i dont know anything about tubes, i dont know kung ok sya sa LAHAT ng type ng music

[JojoD818]

biglang nabuhay ang thread na ito...

[JojoD818]

I like to own one someday... but afraid of the ff

1. Electric bill
2. Maintenance
3. Heat
4. Since i dont know anything about tubes, i dont know kung ok sya sa LAHAT ng type ng music

Kung nasa Family Feud tayo yan ang top 4 answers.

Seriously, and IME, these has been among the top questions (and worries) I usually get from those who want to delve in tubes.

[Superman]

But usually are misconceptions...

Anyway, to each his own...just commenting based on speakers that I own and tube amps that I have personally tried w/ my speakers...

[romeoalltheway]

I would love to have a tube amp. SO and the glow are candies to the senses. But I cannot afford to enjoy one because my work brings me to the most hopeless places. I mean I work where there are humanitarian disasters , be it a war zone, earthquake epicenter or typhoon stricken area, thus my gears have to be dense and portable. Digital is the only way to go. There it is: my own unique reason for not having those tubes.

[nelcarol1994]

I started with ss and now restart my hobby to my tube and hopefully together with ss again. My previous boss inspired me to go tube with his set up of SET.

[tony]

Agree with 1 to 2. Nevertheless, addicted to the holographic tube sound and must suffer the consequence
On No.2 Heat is not too much of an issue.
On No.4 I think it is more dependent on speaker then AMP.

some newcomers can't take the heat and that is one of their concerns....
they complain that transformers are hot....
some complain that filaments light up like lamp bulbs at first...
power consumption is truly higher than SS and nothing to do with your speakers...
once you flick the switch on and the cathodes get hot and plates draw current,
power consumption is up, that is the nature of the beast...
and the power consumption stays whether playing music on your speakers or not...

[tony]

But usually are misconceptions...

Anyway, to each his own...just commenting based on speakers that I own and tube amps that I have personally tried w/ my speakers...

true, misconceptions are everywhere......
how convenient and easy for a lot of people to learn the wrong things......if only they knew....

but still, when you have plenty of moolah to burn, you can get away with anything....
you can buy all you want to your heart's content, after all this hobby is about enjoyment...
as long as you are happy, then that is it....

[tony]

I would love to have a tube amp. SO and the glow are candies to the senses. But I cannot afford to enjoy one because my work brings me to the most hopeless places. I mean I work where there are humanitarian disasters , be it a war zone, earthquake epicenter or typhoon stricken area, thus my gears have to be dense and portable. Digital is the only way to go. There it is: my own unique reason for not having those tubes.

good man yourself.....
i have a friend, an OFW engineer working in an Oil and Gas project in papua new guinea,
he is pestering me to make him a tube amp, but i had to politely turn him down,
how can he when he is home only maybe one month in a year....