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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1320 on: Jun 18, 2009 at 01:32 AM »
pardon my ignorance, but what makes a loudspeaker audiophile quality or highfidelity l.s? criteria pls...




ako din sir interested to any response as i am getting into the audio hobby. ang alam ko lang kasi branded audiophile quality speakers are expensive or really really expensive but dont really know what features, build and criteria to look for.

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1321 on: Jun 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM »
ako din sir interested to any response as i am getting into the audio hobby. ang alam ko lang kasi branded audiophile quality speakers are expensive or really really expensive but dont really know what features, build and criteria to look for.

tia :)

I too was a newbie in this hobby (habit? - he he) some 10 years ago, so didn't know much and initially went for the safety and assurance of famous brands as defined by professional press in their hi-fi publications. Nothing wrong with it, and a natural recourse which paid well in terms of confidence (in following what the experts said - like going for award winners) and also sonic satisfaction (my listening confirming what the experts described what they heard).

As I went up the curve (having experienced speakers like Mission 731i, Tannoy Mercury, B&W DM 601 S3/685/CM1/CDM1/805, Proac Response 1SC, Hyperion, Quad), I have developed my own set of "criteria" that I use:

* Sonic Quality - the overall sound performance, which, the finer nuances could be subjective (according to personal preferences - like what combination of bass, midrange and top notes one finds pleasing) but the general rules will apply (e.g., everyone knows and hates "bright" sounding, boomy bass and sreechy highs) and versus the type of music genre one listens to (although this might straddle the range of rock, vocals, classical, etc.), and can be broken down into:

   ** Midrange - since most music will dwell in this range, this for me is the most important, which should be expansive/broad and smooth.

   ** Bass - for me should be tight and not boomy/wooly or lingering too much (i.e., also the timing: "bang" and it should be gone), not too overpowering/weighty that it drowns out the rest of the sound

   ** Highs/Top notes - should be pleasant, punctuating the music for those "emphasis notes" in either vocals or instrumentation

   ** Overall Clarity/Transparency/Coloration-free - does not add any weight or "extra sound" to the music, as close or realistic to the live performance. This, for me, is the defining characteristic of the high end. When I started out, I enjoyed the extra weight that my entry levels provided, but as I experienced high end, my preference shifted to that of transparency and clarity and appreciated/recognized this as what the high end can provide additionally.

* Soundstage and Imaging - it is not only important that the speakers sound good, equally vital that it "images" well - meaning that it can project and one can "see" some image of where each sound (instrument or vocal) is positioned in the performance "soundstage" - some reviewers who have seen the actual performance will even check whether in fact the singer/instrument was in what position and whether the system (because this is not just a function of the speakers but also the source and the amplification) reproduced it well.

Hope these help, we're all on a journey!

« Last Edit: Jun 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM by richardcruz »

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1322 on: Jun 23, 2009 at 02:53 PM »
where can i audition the 601, 685 speakers?
whats the best avr to pair with and how much for these set?

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1323 on: Jun 23, 2009 at 02:55 PM »
where can i audition the 601, 685 speakers?
whats the best avr to pair with and how much for these set?

thanks! ;D

best to get an AVR with pre-outs.  not only do pre-outs mean that the AVR is a midlevel AVR (with good power) the pre-outs also make it future proof so that one day you can get an external amp if you wish.
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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1324 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 08:22 PM »
where can i audition the 601, 685 speakers?
whats the best avr to pair with and how much for these set?

thanks! ;D

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1325 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 01:31 AM »
where can i audition the 601, 685 speakers?
whats the best avr to pair with and how much for these set?

thanks! ;D

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1326 on: Jul 23, 2009 at 06:59 PM »
is b&w 685 still a good buy ? where is it made england or china?
im planning to buy 1 this will be my first ht setup
please help
thanks in advance

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1327 on: Jul 23, 2009 at 11:16 PM »
is b&w 685 still a good buy ? where is it made england or china?
im planning to buy 1 this will be my first ht setup
please help
thanks in advance


i'm very proud of my 685s po
they are made in china


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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1328 on: Jul 25, 2009 at 12:25 PM »
i'm very proud of my 685s po
they are made in china



+1 ako kay brader eksi. ;D

ayos na ayos 685 ;D

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1329 on: Jul 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM »
+1 ako kay brader eksi. ;D

ayos na ayos 685 ;D

mas ayos na ayos yung 685 mo bro... wenge ba yun?

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1330 on: Aug 06, 2009 at 05:21 PM »
We have the 683, 685 and htm61 available for demo at the shop. You can compare it with the other brands like Polk, jbl, and infinty. :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1331 on: Aug 06, 2009 at 09:10 PM »
We have the 683, 685 and htm61 available for demo at the shop. You can compare it with the other brands like Polk, jbl, and infinty. :)

Hi Sir, I'm new here and would like to try your suggestion above. Where is your shop located sir? :)

Thanks!

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1332 on: Aug 06, 2009 at 09:12 PM »
Hi Sir, I'm new here and would like to try your suggestion above. Where is your shop located sir? :)

Thanks!

shop is located at unit 205 amaremca bldg, 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city. we're open from wednesday to sunday, 11am to 8pm. :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1333 on: Aug 06, 2009 at 10:39 PM »
Thanks sir, will try to visit your shop one of these days. :) What's the shop name? AVSHOP? :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1334 on: Aug 07, 2009 at 09:36 AM »
Thanks sir, will try to visit your shop one of these days. :) What's the shop name? AVSHOP? :)

Home acoustics :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1335 on: Aug 07, 2009 at 05:56 PM »
sobrang ganda tumunog nito, even my gf na hindi marunong sa home theater sa lahat ng audition ito ang nagustuhan  ;) my dream set !  ;D

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1336 on: Aug 07, 2009 at 06:55 PM »
sobrang ganda tumunog nito, even my gf na hindi marunong sa home theater sa lahat ng audition ito ang nagustuhan  ;) my dream set !  ;D

Which one did you listen to?  Baket mukhang Primus ata ang winner?

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1337 on: Aug 07, 2009 at 07:08 PM »
gusto ko ito but d lagpas sa budget ito kaya dream set nalang  :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1338 on: Aug 07, 2009 at 07:31 PM »
gusto ko ito but d lagpas sa budget ito kaya dream set nalang  :)

Which b&w's did you listen to ba? How much umabot yung set?

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1339 on: Aug 07, 2009 at 07:56 PM »
b&w 683, htm 61 close to 100k but performance wise ganda talaga  :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1340 on: Aug 08, 2009 at 06:04 PM »
We have the 683, 685 and htm61 available for demo at the shop. You can compare it with the other brands like Polk, jbl, and infinty. :)

Just came from an audition in AV's shop.  By far, the best sounding was the B&W 683 vs the other floorstanders in the shop.  My father in law was looking at another floorstander, but was quite impressed with the 683s.  Ayan, magbebenta ng speakers para ma-augment yung budget. . .

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1341 on: Aug 11, 2009 at 08:26 AM »
I can attest to the B&W 683, HTM61 and 685 combo.  I'm using it for over a year already, no regrets!  :)  Don't forget to pair it with a decent-powered receiver or sound processor.

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1342 on: Aug 11, 2009 at 09:05 AM »
Although they may be at the lowest end of the b&w totem pole, the 685 and the htm 62 combination have given me clarity in the mids and highs, and sonic bliss in the HT arena. Worth the money I paid for.  

I would wonder, how much more if one would climb the steps up in the b&w ladder?
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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1343 on: Aug 12, 2009 at 11:26 PM »
Although they may be at the lowest end of the b&w totem pole, the 685 and the htm 62 combination have given me clarity in the mids and highs, and sonic bliss in the HT arena. Worth the money I paid for.  

I would wonder, how much more if one would climb the steps up in the b&w ladder?

same with you bro, I'm very satisfied with the performance of 685, htm62 and 686 combo ;)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1344 on: Aug 13, 2009 at 12:37 PM »
same with you bro, I'm very satisfied with the performance of 685, htm62 and 686 combo ;)

Congrats bro, you have an all b&w set-up.  I am using a KEF Cresta 10 for surrounds and Polk Tsi 100 for
presence speakers.  I am still saving up hopefully for a 686 or any pre-owned older b&w bs.
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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1345 on: Aug 13, 2009 at 06:27 PM »
Congrats bro, you have an all b&w set-up.  I am using a KEF Cresta 10 for surrounds and Polk Tsi 100 for
presence speakers.  I am still saving up hopefully for a 686 or any pre-owned older b&w bs.

i can give you a good deal on the 685 and 686. :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1346 on: Aug 14, 2009 at 08:08 AM »
i can give you a good deal on the 685 and 686. :)

Thanks sir.  I will seriously consider your offer.

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1347 on: Aug 27, 2009 at 12:07 PM »
new b&w 600 series home theater packages available. :)

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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1348 on: Aug 29, 2009 at 10:47 AM »
Mga sir,

Pwede ba i-remove yung stand ng 685? Balak ko kasi lagay sa computer table ko as speaker only.

Thanks,
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Re: B&W 600  Speakers
« Reply #1349 on: Aug 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM »
Mga sir,

Pwede ba i-remove yung stand ng 685? Balak ko kasi lagay sa computer table ko as speaker only.

Thanks,
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Puedeng puede, sir.  Yong stand naman is not bolted to the 685, so you may place the 685 anywhere you want.