Topic: AMX Speakers

[bz]

Did any one heard their new speakers? I want to check whether my ears are decieving me because of old age or are they for real? At blind listening they seem to sound better than . . . .more expensive ones.

[Audioboy]

they sounded good to me for their price.

[bz]

It made me wonder whether how many of us buys speakers or amps and cds for that matter because we like the sound of it or the one way or another affected by the brand? I went to this store where they are selling top british brand that cost about 40,000 pesos and it does not differ that much from the AMX, except for the price. Of course the amps, players and cables used differ but the ones I heard from AMX were even using old CD player. Also the AMX used their own manufactured tube amps also. Can tube amps affect much the sound of the speakers?
 

[bumblebee]

I think most of us, if not all, at one time or another, are guilty of choosing our gears based on reviews, opinions and brand. Why? If we didn't, then all AV stores would have to setup a blind AB listening environments.

As for tube amps, I happen to accept Roger Russell's take on this. All good amplifiers, whether tube or SS can sound the same as long as the damping factor is high enough (if I remembered correctly, audioholics concluded inaudible differences between amps w/ >50 damping factor) and is not overdriven.

[aHobbit]

All amps built based on hi-fi specs will sound the same if theyare tested on controlled environments.

But you should note some amps, especially the expensive ones, are not necessarily built with common specs (strict hi-fi spec compliance - if ever there is a real one!) in mind. This is what we call their sonic signature. And sonic signature is sometimes the 'thing' that some audiophile run after - especially on tubes.

For the group who can afford much, the ownership of costly amps (which include BOSE  ) is part of pride in owning aesthetic products or expensive gears. Cost, again, is not even a factor of sonic performance - probably of built quality (which I also doubt - like the BOSE and the gain card and the exotic cables). Perception varies among consumers! 

If you are just into good performances of materials by your audio gear - better filter your information among the reviews that you read or the recommendation you hear. They are part of the game in commercialism (aka profit orientation of businesses) even in audio industry. Buying is an art, listening is an art - but buying and listening are 2 different things.

[bz]

Now that's a good idea, "blind listening set up" in a room provided by pinoydvd for members to really test as well as learn from each other on how to evaluate amps as well as speakers. that way all members will have an unbias listening experience.
....or anybody would like to lend his space for pinoydvd members?

[av_phile1]

It made me wonder whether how many of us buys speakers or amps and cds for that matter because we like the sound of it or the one way or another affected by the brand? I went to this store where they are selling top british brand that cost about 40,000 pesos and it does not differ that much from the AMX, except for the price. Of course the amps, players and cables used differ but the ones I heard from AMX were even using old CD player. Also the AMX used their own manufactured tube amps also. Can tube amps affect much the sound of the speakers?
 

This is what is called in Psychology 101, the power of suggestion.  The higher the price tag, the more it gets noticed.  People tend to find the good points to justify the high price tag, so they often end up with a list of good points for that product.  OTH, people tend to find the flaws to forgive a product with the low price tag, so they end up with a list of bad points.  No wonder they'd save up for the more expensive product and look down on the cheap product.  Even if they both fulfill the same objective or perform close.  And, as in anything else we buy, function sometimes takes a backseat to pride of ownership of a pedigreed brand and its ability to bestow bragging rghts.

Tube amps impart a sonic coloration to a degree that will render a solid state totally unlistenable.  They have oodles of even-order harmonic distortions that impart a euphonic quality to the original signal.  That's why they can be sonically impressive to audiophiles looking for what's pleasant to the ears.  And single-ended triodes SETs really have no counterpart in the solid state world, so they're pretty much in a class of their own.

[bz]

Talking about SET amps, will having higher sensitivity speakers makes the tighter bass and faster bass? Have you tried A-B ing bass from SET and bass from solid states? Are there any general sound when it comes to bass using ss and SETs?