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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3540 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 04:08 AM »
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« Reply #3541 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 04:10 AM »
Wala ako viber bro hehehe
oki lang parang di ko rin naman ma-gets yan
pero suggest ko parin post mo image dito
Try ko rin ipost sa avsforum baka may makasagot doon
posted ung dsp 1 parepareho gang dsp3 ....pagtiningnan mo ung left side ng image walang speaker dun sa boxes hehe
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« Reply #3542 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 04:36 AM »
posted ung dsp 1 parepareho gang dsp3 ....pagtiningnan mo ung left side ng image walang speaker dun sa boxes hehe
whoa weird nga nyan.
Pati sa a7 ganyan lumalabas?
try mo rin ng wala speakers wires nakakabit and hdmi sa receiver.
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3543 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 04:44 AM »
whoa weird nga nyan.
Pati sa a7 ganyan lumalabas?
try mo rin ng wala speakers wires nakakabit and hdmi sa receiver.
anung a7?ganun may speaker or wala ...walang sounds..test tone wala...pero pwede mag add mg db hehe...sa audyssey ayaw tumuloy gang first page lang hehe...ok sana masira ung hdmi pero sana ung optical working pa din..eto completly no audio hehe
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3544 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 05:05 AM »
anung a7?ganun may speaker or wala ...walang sounds..test tone wala...pero pwede mag add mg db hehe...sa audyssey ayaw tumuloy gang first page lang hehe...ok sana masira ung hdmi pero sana ung optical working pa din..eto completly no audio hehe
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3545 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 08:13 AM »
o nasan na yung magagaling na beki???

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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3546 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 08:47 AM »
My fav reciever is sick at the moment... My 805 was not use for a month then tried two channel audio and hook up dynes...after a week my daughter watch toy story for the 50th time ata haha...on the middle of the movie nawalan ng sounds...opened foobar and same problem occured....ayaw magdecode naka dolby nakalagay kahit 2ch ...wala pa din sounds...test tone wAla ...perform reset and tried to run audyssey and aud will not proceed...test tone wala pa din...hdmi passthrough works..video no problems but no sound still... All 3 dsp puro question mark lang hehehe....try ko magupdate ng dsp kapag ayaw need ipagamot sa toyama ...anyone exp this? Possible hdmi board failure ...sana mayos pa...want this badly hehe

Malamang sis kailangan irestore or update yung DSP files nya. Updating the DSPs require PC/laptop na may serial connection or pwede din USB-serial cable. I tried this before sa 805 ko kaya lang di kinaya ng utak ko, hehehe.
Or better yet dalhin mo na lang sa Toyama sis coz they have the tools there ifever kailangan irestore yung DSP or even the main firmware.
I found these websites baka makatulong...
http://www.avforums.com/forums/av-amplifiers-receivers/739501-onkyo-main-firmware-dsp-updates.html
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-99138.html

Wag nyo na lang pansinin yung K*p*l dyan sa tabi-tabi >:D

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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3547 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 12:46 PM »
Bro sana  maayos ng maaga, baka lumala sakit ni junior..

try mo to baka makatulong..

http://www.fixya.com/support/t1315513-just_bought_refirb_onkyo_805

This is an excerpt..

To set in DSP debug mode
 1. Press and hold down DISPLAY button, then press STANDBY/ON button while the unit is powered ON.
 The version number of m icroprocessor is displayed only for 3 seconds.
 Main:
 8 1.05/07903A
 2. Press TONE+ button within 3 seconds above, the version number of 1st DSP is displayed.
 DSP 1st:
 SR8051:07601A
 3. Press DISPLAY button while the 1st DSP version is displayed. The status of DSP and DIR will be displayed.
 E1A48K0N/0FFPo
 FFFFFF0 0 000
 To exit
 Press STANDBY/ON button.
 Then unplug the unit for 30 sec then plug in it should work now if not you need to return it to 1 of the service center Onkyo in your town to repair it
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3548 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 01:53 PM »
Thanks sis louela...optical kebol nalamg need ko to update dsp...may cd sa bahay tapos sa ps3 ko nalang gawin...kalikutin ko pa to kapah natry ko na lahat saka ko ipacheckup sa toyama...tangapin kaya ung medicard ko? Lol                  Lord jhameeh thanks
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3549 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 01:58 PM »


Wag nyo na lang pansinin yung K*p*l dyan sa tabi-tabi >:D

Haha sinabi mo pa sipulan na lang natin baka sumakit tiyan kakatawa ala yata fwend eh.

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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3550 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 02:12 PM »
Dont mind someone who doesnot exist...    Elmira may optical kebol ka? Ay meron na pala kay sis marlon...kagising ko lang kaya hindi ko nadaanan....          Brader jammy receive ur text thanks...nagtry din ako painitin ung hdmi board for 5mins tinutukan ko ng 40wats bulb hehe..same issue...peborit ko tong avr na to hehe
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3551 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 05:48 PM »
eto ung pinakamalapit na nasearch ko hehe...

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1431671/possible-diy-fix-for-onkyo-tx-nr3007-loss-of-audio-audio-problem-without-sending-the-unit-to-onkyo


I recently obtained a TX-NR3007 that i believe was having the same common loss of sound issue most folks are discussing on this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1192172/the-onkyo-tx-nr3007-tx-nr5007-common-questions-issues-hints-answers-thread

Summary:
The receiver was exhibiting what i believe was this common problem. It was no longer under warrantee. I reflowed the two BGA chips on the hdmi board, and it now appears to be working.

Symptoms:
Lack of audio
Communication issues requesting firmware version from DSP controllers
Communication issues with using ethernet port
Communication issues with using USB port

Fix:
Reflow of BGA Chips

Assurance it doesn't happen again:
Insure proper cooling to unit (plenty of clearance around cooling intakes and outlets)
Possibly heatsink the two chips


Followup:
Interested in results from others willing to/interested in doing this.
Interested in folks willing to donate their broken receiver for me to diagnose/try to fix (I would pay shipping)
More details as they become available at http://www.c-j-l.net/Home/audio/onkyo_tx-nr3007


The Full Story:
The initial symptoms for this amplifier reported by the old owner was a lack of audio.
Upon further investigation I found that it could not communicate properly with the DSP units or ethernet; When requesting to see firmware version, it would only display '??????-?????' or similar (all question marks) for DSP1/ETH, DSP2, and DSP3. (To do this, with unit on press and hold display, press the standby button, and immediately use the < or > arrows next to the display button) This indicated to me that there is a communication issue on-board.
Futher troubleshooting showed that it would not pick up an IP address via network (under hardware setup, network did not even exit), and when a USB memory stick was inserted and source changed to USB, the stick was never queried (LED on stick never lit).

I decided this really seemed to be a communication issue.

Looking at the internals of the unit, the HDMI board which most service centers replace as a fix for the problem is the digital mainboard containing what seems to be most of the processing units. This would explain the 600+ dollar cost that has been reported if not under warrantee, i believe.

Two of the chips on the board were in BGA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_grid_array) form factor- which with poor cooling has been noted to cause problems in northbridge and video chipsets in laptops as well as the famous red halo of death in xbox 360s.

Using some suggestions and timing from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR8L3B3eDr0 , I re-flowed the two chips on the board that were BGA.

The amplifier appears to be working properly now (can play music from USB, check for firmware upgrades on the network, i can see the firmware versions of all chips, etc), although i haven't done thorough diagnostics on it. I am waiting to get the remote from the original owner.

I will post more information and pictures as i have a chance to update them here:
http://www.c-j-l.net/Home/audio/onkyo_tx-nr3007

If your amplifier is exhibiting these types of symptoms and you'd like to donate it for me to try to fix and report results, i'd be happy to pay shipping slow-boat to where i live in Oregon. Please PM me.

[Edit/Addendum]
I re-flowed a second board and was a bit too hot on it. Melted the front HDMI cable input and the power inputs. If using the heat gun method, keep an eye on these plastics. Board still worked, which was good- but could not use front HDMI input.

If you don't have a heat gun, or want a way that is more regulated, you could try the method described here by oscarav098 in an oven:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1192172/the-onkyo-tx-nr3007-tx-nr5007-common-questions-issues-hints-answers-thread/4620#post_22813395

(synopsis:
Procedure:
- Cover HDMI board with aluminum foil with the exception of the BGA chips. There are a total of two BGA chips on the HDMI board for the 3008 receiver. You can identify these chips by the lack of visible pins.
- Warm up oven to 300 degrees F and place hdmi board on cookie sheet and insert in oven. Bake at this temp for 2-3 min.
- Raise temp to 385 and bake at this temp for 8-9 min.
- Turn oven off and open door. Let board sit for 30 min. Do not touch.
- Remove from oven. Remove foil and re install.
- Enjoy you newly working receiver. )
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3552 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 05:54 PM »
haha parang cake ibabake.. Onkyo cake for sale...  >:D >:D >:D
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« Reply #3553 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 06:03 PM »
haha parang caje ibabake.. Onkyo cake for sale...  >:D >:D >:D


Yup – ganun talaga bake un sis…
Ps3 with YLOD need ireflow using heat gun kapag nasira ulit
I rereball – bake bake bake…..

I fixed Ps3 before pero ngayon lang ako nagkaissue sa receiver hehe…
Use may kalikot skills hehe..
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3554 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 06:21 PM »
bff, inform mo yung nasirang part or dapat palitan, check ko sa source kung pwede bumili dun sa service center...bakasakali lang tayo

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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3555 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 06:30 PM »
Palitan na lang kasi ng Onkyo 3009 yan from Kingdom of Kulam!!!

Tama ba ko sis Darwina? Hehe

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« Reply #3556 on: Jul 05, 2013 at 06:43 PM »
bff, inform mo yung nasirang part or dapat palitan, check ko sa source kung pwede bumili dun sa service center...bakasakali lang tayo
sige sige bff....

wala kasing becki na taga ONKYO


baka may kilala kayo para homeservice hehehe

langya 3009 nyahaha....

love na love ko tong 805....

parang kayo (",)
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Re: ONKYO AVR
« Reply #3557 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 12:06 AM »
Madalas naman sa ganyan cases tanggal kabit lang diba?
baka di naman need na palitan pyesa  :)
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« Reply #3558 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 02:24 AM »
Madalas naman sa ganyan cases tanggal kabit lang diba?
baka di naman need na palitan pyesa  :)
hopefully brader hehehe
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« Reply #3559 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 02:35 AM »
Palitan na lang kasi ng Onkyo 3009 yan from Kingdom of Kulam!!!

Tama ba ko sis Darwina? Hehe

Or how about un pioneer elite nasa mp. Mukhang bago pa. Pwede daw ilang gives  ;)
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« Reply #3560 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 02:45 AM »
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Yung Onkyo SC5509 ko lalagay ko sa MP next week...brand new..virgin...discounted price from MSRP para sayo!

Bilhin mo na bro....hehehe... >:D >:D >:D
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« Reply #3561 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 03:07 AM »
@raider125jeigh

Yung Onkyo SC5509 ko lalagay ko sa MP next week...brand new..virgin...discounted price from MSRP para sayo!


Bilhin mo na bro....hehehe... >:D >:D >:D
kahit tangalin ung SC5    di ko pa din kayang bilhin hahaha
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« Reply #3562 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 03:17 AM »
kahit tangalin ung SC5    di ko pa din kayang bilhin hahaha
Sangla body bro..hahaha
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« Reply #3563 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 03:26 AM »
hopefully brader hehehe

sira na yan. kunin mo na yung kay queen louie.....12 gibs naman pag ikaw eh:)
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« Reply #3564 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 03:26 AM »
Sangla body bro..hahaha
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« Reply #3565 on: Jul 06, 2013 at 03:33 AM »
Lord Jhamee kulang pa ata katawan ko haha....
Sama na paa at kamay..pati si pututoy...hahaha...
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« Reply #3566 on: Jul 28, 2013 at 05:13 PM »
My 818 has this buzzing sound sa center channel, tried using diff speaker wires and diff speaker same pa rin...
When i go into speaker config/setup screen nawawala naman un sound
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« Reply #3567 on: Jul 28, 2013 at 07:25 PM »
My 818 has this buzzing sound sa center channel, tried using diff speaker wires and diff speaker same pa rin...
When i go into speaker config/setup screen nawawala naman un sound
nagreset ka na ng receiver dex?
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« Reply #3568 on: Jul 28, 2013 at 07:27 PM »
^_Dapat talaga mag-DENON na para ayos.... >:D >:D >:D
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« Reply #3569 on: Jul 28, 2013 at 07:29 PM »
My 818 has this buzzing sound sa center channel, tried using diff speaker wires and diff speaker same pa rin...
When i go into speaker config/setup screen nawawala naman un sound

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