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are dvd player dying?
« on: Dec 15, 2006 at 06:54 AM »
i just planning to upgrade dvd player yung sony 76h upscale dvd player kaso worried ako baka in a just couple of year pawala na ito at papalitan na ng blu-ray or hddvd player, ano sa palagay niyo, are dvd player dying?

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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 15, 2006 at 01:43 PM »
i just planning to upgrade dvd player yung sony 76h upscale dvd player kaso worried ako baka in a just couple of year pawala na ito at papalitan na ng blu-ray or hddvd player, ano sa palagay niyo, are dvd player dying?

if you mean a couple years like 5 years.. then by then hd-dvd and blue-ray would the norm... uhmm.. nothing will last forever :P
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #2 on: Dec 15, 2006 at 02:17 PM »
HD DVD and BD sales are not even above 1% of the HT market worldwide.  They each have only about 200 titles a this time, compared to the hundreds of thousands of DVD titles.  So no worry.get that DVD player you want. If it will last 3 years, that's good enough.  The player might even conk out long before it gets obsolete.  5 years is the prediciton for DVD to last further.  And at the rate things are going for HD DVD and BD, it could take longer.  One reason is that people MUST have HDTV sets to benefit from these HD players.  And they're still quite expensive for the ordinary joe.  But if you already have one, it would make sense to start investing in HD players.   But the early adopters who did still use their SD DVD players for the most part of HT viewing. 
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #3 on: Dec 15, 2006 at 03:04 PM »
10 years after DVD took over, VCD is still alive.... i doubt if DVD will die faster than VCD.

i bought a new generic player last week along with 3 new DVDs..... the new formats are still too far into the future and we still don't know what will happen next, so try to enjoy what is available right now.

think of it this way --- if the time comes that DVD is on its way out, imagine all the price cuts & closing out sale --- what a great time to buy.
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #4 on: Dec 15, 2006 at 03:41 PM »
10 years after DVD took over, VCD is still alive.... i doubt if DVD will die faster than VCD.


Actually VCD seems to be only thriving here and in some parts of southeast asia, china and india.  There are no VCDs being sold in the US, Japan and Europe.  ;D
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #5 on: Dec 15, 2006 at 04:38 PM »
Matagal pa yan at least for the Philippines.  VCD's will not disappear agad dito; lalo na it's the cheapest form of distributing porn movies  :o  :o  :o  sa ngayon though madami na ding dvd. Pero I think maraming fake DeVeDe na actually VCD lang ang quality. So matagal pa yang VeCeDe at DeVeDe. :-[  ;D


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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #6 on: Dec 15, 2006 at 04:40 PM »
i guess the reason why vcd remains popular here is because its cheaper than dvds. Even the superior LD was killed by vcd due to cheaper players and media. If the prices of dvd drops compared to the newer formats, then it will continue to thrive. But if the newer formats with their players are cheaper, then the DVD might die like LD. IMHO.
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #7 on: Dec 15, 2006 at 05:29 PM »
This early, amazon prices for many HD DVD and Blu Ray titles are in the $18 range.   This is quite close and equal to some DVD releases already.  Industry pundits expect them to go down further when critical mass is achieved.  So the day will come when they could be cheaper than DVD, especially as studio support for DVD start to lessen.  But we're probably talking 2 years in the US before this happens.

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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #8 on: Dec 16, 2006 at 03:28 AM »
If Sony PS3 reach mass market, then High-Definition might slowly supplant DVDS...but those player will still plays your DVDs, 'yun nga lang region-locked.   

My view is to wait a little longer, since prices of those higher-end upscaler DVD players will drop before HD-DVD or Bluray gains a foothold.   Once they are price reasonably, I would probably get myself a backup...just in case...after all, my DVD collection costs a lot of times more than any DVD player will ever be. ;)
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #9 on: Dec 16, 2006 at 05:47 AM »
DVD is here to stay...it's quite obvious....you need to buy a HDTV capable monitor, and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player.....whereas....analog TV will probably persist for more than a decade before it gets to it's OOP status.

A product's staying power is really dependent on it's stability and the captured market population.
DVD had scored high on both.
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #10 on: Dec 16, 2006 at 06:07 AM »
Not to sound I am driving in the other direction but I will not buy any original DVD anymore as I have stated collecting HD dvd's and blu-ray disc. Actually, DVD and the latter formats can co-exist. Once you see high def on a PJ with BD and HD DVD it will be very hard to justify buying ORIGINAL DVD's. I will just buy B*****gs for the titles that tickles my interest.
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #11 on: Dec 16, 2006 at 09:20 AM »
some highend DVD upconverting players from Denon, Pioneer and Onkyo may command prices from P30-40k+, and if you have that budget, doesnt make sense to me to purchase one now.  instead, looking at Tosh HD-A1 makes for an interesting proposition...you can have it within the 30K range (depending on how you acquire it), you get to play HD DVDs and  still have a very good upconverting dvd player too (though R1 lang)...but if budget is lower, its really a personal "cost" decision if you'll upgrade with the new formats na.  Makes it an easier decision too if you already have a HD capable monitor.. just my opinion folks... ;D ;D

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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #12 on: Dec 16, 2006 at 11:05 AM »
There is still time because the battle between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray isn't resolved yet. Once the winning medium becomes readily available here then it's time to consider buying one. But I don't think that will happen within the next 5 years. However, I'd save my money rather than pay over 10K for a DVD player right now.



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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #13 on: Dec 17, 2006 at 09:08 AM »
A lot of early adopters on other avforums are nearly one in saying after watching a high def film on their HDTV, they have lost the same interest they had with watching SD DVDs.  In fact, they watch their HD DVDs and Blu Rays on their 42" ++ HDTVs or PJs and watch SD DVDs on a smaller 32" or earlier  HDTV and others on CRT-based TVs.  (They're often moneyed enough to own many HDTVs.  ;D

They will still keep their SD DVD collection (though a few have also started disposing)  and slowly double dip into HD as the titles they want appear.  Not all SD DVDs will be replaced, as most early adopters also had some regrets having titles that sit on their shelves having been viewed only once.  For sure animated films would be last on their list as there's really not much detail in most if not all animated films that will benefit from HD treatment.  I mean, there are no freckles in Aladin's face or strands in Simba's mane  to be revealed any better on HD.  Perhaps some computer animated films like Final Fantasy or Monster's Inc with better detailing might.  And ofcourse the fact the kids wouldn't really notice the difference.   ;D

Many are bemoaing the dearth of really good titles on HD.  But HD is still in its infancy and will have a long way to go before it starts to become THE video standard for HT.  And while it is true that many homes still have analog TVs that would not benefit from HD players, the uptake of HDTVs is gaining momentum.  There are now more than 1M HDTVs in Britain and more than twice that in the US.  (Ofcourse that's really nothing compared to the total TV owning household in these countires.)  With the mandatory shift to digital TVs, expect the trend to accelerate.  The eventual dominance of HDTVs in the common household would have a lot to do with HD players going mainstream. Now whether that is HD DVD or Blu ray is still a toss up.  HD DVD is ahead in the US and Britain (and HD DVD hasn't even launched in Europe).  But Blu ray enjoys substantial lead in Japan, about 80% of the market. Though I wouldn't consider Japan a harbringer of video format world trend  if I go by the betamax and umd dominance there. 

If not mistaken, VHS is still around.  Unless and until studios make a pronouncement that they will no longer support DVD,    DVD would still enjoy a  life expectancy over the long term.  I don't see such pronouncements  forthcoming considering that DVD's enourmous sales is still the bread and butter of many studios, apart from movies.  OTH, sales of BD and HD DVD titles are so miniscule compared to DVD sales that they may just merit a footnote on the studios' income statements at this time and in the next 2 years or so.   ;D





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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #14 on: Dec 18, 2006 at 07:57 AM »
Dito sa 'Pinas ay magtatagal pa siguro (5 or more years) ang DVD. Yung karamihan sa middle class palagay ko ay di pa mag-a-upgrade sa HDTV unless HD broadcast is already available. Yun naman nasa lower than the middle ay karamihan ngayon pa lang mag-a-upgrade sa DVD player from VCD player (the SRP of China made DVD players now ranges from Php 1.5K to 2.5K), so there is no need to worry, DVD will stay for quite a long time pa. But you can start saving for your HD-HT. ;D ;D 

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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #15 on: Dec 18, 2006 at 10:44 AM »
I think at least 5 years before it (HDDVD/BluRay) catches on in the Philippines.  It took that long for DVDs to ease out VCDs, and they're still around.  Bottom line:  titles, without it, it won't catch on.

i just planning to upgrade dvd player yung sony 76h upscale dvd player kaso worried ako baka in a just couple of year pawala na ito at papalitan na ng blu-ray or hddvd player, ano sa palagay niyo, are dvd player dying?

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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #16 on: Dec 19, 2006 at 04:57 PM »
I think at least 5 years before it (HDDVD/BluRay) catches on in the Philippines.  It took that long for DVDs to ease out VCDs, and they're still around. 

I'm not sure if VCDs have been eased out by DVDs.  Around 5 years ago, many video shops started marking down their VCDs to P150.  "Sale" daw kuno.  At the time, the buzz was that VCDs were about to be phased out.  The rumors seemed to be true --- dumami ang DVD sa video shops, at marked down ang presyo ng mga VCD.

5 years later, punta ka sa Astrovision.  Lalong dumami ang VCD, lalo namang kumonti ang DVD.  Go figure.
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #17 on: Dec 19, 2006 at 05:05 PM »
yan palakasin p ninyo ang loob ko.  kase kung agad-agad mawawala ang standard dvd, hindi ata makakayanan ng budget ko ang biglaang pag uupgrade. hehehehe
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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #18 on: Dec 28, 2006 at 02:51 PM »
nothing lasts forever. ako man ay magugulantang kung biglang mawala ang sd dvd, considering how much i inveted in original R1 titles.

pero sa tingin ko naman ay mapapanood ko pa rin ang collection ko sa future HDDVD or BD players dahil recommended yata na gaming compatible ang mga ito.

besides, after five years or so naman ay talagang mapapabili ka ng HD TV at mga new-age players dahil kung hindi ay maglalaway ka lang sa inggit sa mga kamag-anak o tropa mong bibili nyan.

mas malaki problema ng kaibigan ko kung nagkataon, dahil ang collection nila ng orig dvd titles ay talaga namang enormous. as in shelves! malalaki at matataas na shelves. doon yata napupunta ang lahat ng sweldo nila. ordered from the USA pa talaga at yung mga collector's editions and gift sets pa ang trip nila. ang sakit non pag na-phase out ang sd  dvd! ahahahay!

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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #19 on: Dec 28, 2006 at 03:00 PM »
I would think it would take a minimum of 5 years before HD/BD become mainstream.  Don't base your purchases on future technology that is not being widely used just yet.  Besides HD/BD are only advantageous and noticable to probably 50" screens and above.  If your simply using a 29-42" screens, then the picture clarity is not that noticable from sd dvd.

Should HD/BD be sold in stores like Astrovision and the like in abundant numbers, then that's the time to upgrade.

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Re: are dvd player dying?
« Reply #20 on: Dec 29, 2006 at 07:07 AM »
I agree with you.

I can't see myself owning a TV bigger than 36"  so HD will not benefit me at all. But, i'm not saying i wont be buying a HD player. I will surely do. If the price will go down to $200 or a HD ITB below $500 mark.
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