Topic: Pioneer DV-600AV-S (1080p upscaling dvd player)

[IceTea]

Yes, you can, the images displayed vai a bluray player is brighter,detailed and cleaner without any so called video noise/artifacts, unlike in an upscaled 1080i or 1080p DVD,you'll notice some softening and video noise on the background most especially on fast scenes.(Check out Narnia/ i Robot and Fifth Element).

Sir,
      Which is better in upscaling, the dv600 or a blueray/HD player?

[antikryst]

guess it really depends on which unit's upscaler is better. you would have to compare the 2 units on how they handle upscaling.

but if you already have an hd dvd player...i would ditch my dvd player so i just have 1 player. or kung ayawmo malaspag agad..then use both.

[Alfie]

Sir,
      Which is better in upscaling, the dv600 or a blueray/HD player?

Of course the Bluray/HDDVD 

It can handle 25gigs of data whereas a DVD player was only designed for 8.5gigs.

[antukin]

is the 192/24khz audio DAC applicable only to its 5.1 output? will this DAC upgrade applicable to a separate receiver connected via coax? (the receiver's DAC will process the audio stream).

salamats

[tonedeaf]

Sir,
      Which is better in upscaling, the dv600 or a blueray/HD player?

you also have to take into account that if you get an HD player abroad (as the local prices are still steep), it will be region locked to R1 for standard dvds.

[sanmig_ph]

you also have to take into account that if you get an HD player abroad (as the local prices are still steep), it will be region locked to R1 for standard dvds.

yun lang problema sa hddvd naka locked sa sddvd,kaya upscale lng mga r1

[Mo®pHeOu$]

yun ang big difference.  Since imported HD DVD players can only play R1s.  If you have lots of R3s, then might as well settle for a DVD player with upscaling features. 

Now, if someone knows how to unlock those imported HD DVD players so it can play all region, then all the better.  You ge the best of both worlds ika nga. hehehe 

[IceTea]

Of course the Bluray/HDDVD 

It can handle 25gigs of data whereas a DVD player was only designed for 8.5gigs.

Sir,
      Sorry for the confusion, but I meant using the same standard DVD disc for both players, which player would display a better PQ due to upscaling?  I think your answer uses BD/HD DVD disc for BD/HD players.   

    My main point here is, since I have lots of standard DVD Discs and want to buy a HD TV, should I buy an upscaler DVD player now?  I'm still hoping High-Def DVD will standardize into a unified format, from Blueray/HD. 

[RXV]

I think blue-ray/HD-DVDs will of course display better PQ than SD-DVDs when loaded into an HD-DVD player.
Yung standard DVD e inuupscale pa, while I think the blue-ray/HD-DVD is already 720p/1080p at native resolution (no upscaling required).

[Alfie]

Sir,
      Sorry for the confusion, but I meant using the same standard DVD disc for both players, which player would display a better PQ due to upscaling?  I think your answer uses BD/HD DVD disc for BD/HD players.   

My main point here is, since I have lots of standard DVD Discs and want to buy a HD TV, should I buy an upscaler DVD player now?  I'm still hoping High-Def DVD will standardize into a unified format, from Blueray/HD. 

I think you know the answer to your question.

BTW, HDDVD and Blu Ray players are in the 30K to 65K range.
The cheapest you can get is the Sony PS3 which retails for 20K to 35K.

A Pioneer 1080p capable DVD player costs less than 7K. 

And to think that you still need to buy your HDTV.

[frootloops]

I think you know the answer to your question.

BTW, HDDVD and Blu Ray players are in the 30K to 65K range.
The cheapest you can get is the Sony PS3 which retails for 20K to 35K.

A Pioneer 1080p capable DVD player costs less than 7K. 

And to think that you still need to buy your HDTV.

Ang gastos!!! 

@IceTea
If the difference of an upscaled SD-DVD would be a matter of night and day, then go for it. However, to some, especially me....it's not.

Wait na lang for the other manufacturers, I believe China is in the process of making their own HD-DVD.

But if you have the budget, the heck! get it now and indulge yourself to a true-HD. 

[RXV]

It all comes to how deep you pocket is.. (For now.. )

[IceTea]

I think you know the answer to your question.

Sir,
    Don't get me wrong, but honestly, I don't.  I'm just assuming that they should be the same, because the source is the same,  but I could be wrong.  I agree specific brand/model could make a difference, but I'm looking for a general answer/opinion.  Enlightenment is bliss.   

    In addition, I also agree, if only I could afford such HDDVD/BluRay players, I would get both format. Unfortunately, upscaling is the most likely route for me.    

    Hopefully, they make those China generic HD-players which handles both format.     

[Trig]

If you have xbox360, and xbox addon is 180$. it includes kingkong hddvd + remote, free heroes season 1, mail-in 5 hddvd. This is a good option if you have an xbox and a friend or relative in the us. PS3 will release a 40gb version and will more likely be <20k.

Right now Im using pio dv600 and im happy w/ it. I watch my downloaded tv series their and the pq is really good.

But make sure you already have an hdtv 

[odyopayl]

To owners of Pioneer DV600AV-s
I just want to know the following settings:
My player is capable of the following set-up. However, I havent seen any difference, what is your suggestion?
     - 1080i (interlace)
     - 1080p (progressive)

Video out:
     - Full RGB
     - RGB
     - I forgot the other one hehehe

One thing more:
When playing DVD-A (multi) or SACD (multi) the output of 0.1 (Subwoofer) is too low even the speaker setting on the home menu is in the maximum? (Analog)

TIA

[dB10]

One thing more:
When playing DVD-A (multi) or SACD (multi) the output of 0.1 (Subwoofer) is too low even the speaker setting on the home menu is in the maximum? (Analog)
TIA

sir what is your audio set up?

[jeyps11_c]

Here's a little comparison between the Pio DV600 (upconverted to 720p) and a DLed movie at 720p (played sa laptop and VGA to the LCD).

Pio600 - Any Given Sunday (upconverted to 720p)



Laptop playing a 720p DLed movie (MI:3)



Can you tell the difference? Cause I can't from the pics 

But when I was watching it, the DLed 720p movie was leaps and bounds better than an upconverted movie.
Even if my display was only 32" I notice a difference in terms of how crisp the movie is -- DLed movie was almost similar to the samples in AV shops.
I will be trying out a CGI movie (Finding Nemo) that is 720p and see if it better compared to a regular DVD upconverted to 720p.

[Marl☆1]

Of course the Bluray/HDDVD 

It can handle 25gigs of data whereas a DVD player was only designed for 8.5gigs.

IMHO Blue ray hands down.  I bought me a DV600 yesterday in order to get my DVD's at least close to the PQ of HD discs and was very disappointed.  I have a full HD panel (37" Philips Pixel Plus 3 HD Model: 37PFL7422) and I hooked it up via HDMI to the DV600.  Tested 'Transformers' and it came out with a lot of artifacts and fringing on the edges.  It appeared over-enhanced with the visual ranging from a bit grainy to really pixelized.

I then hooked-up my old / ordinary Philips HTIB (via component cables only) and it came out a lot smoother and with a better PQ registration vs. the DV600 (thus, player and not the panel was the issue then). Was baffled to tell you honestly, so I took a good hour or two tweaking the picture settings (both on the panel and the DV600 player) to get the right image but everything was in vain.  I also tried the various HD settings from 480 to 1080i to 1080p and it had the same symptoms.  I also tried a number of discs from R3s to R1 and the 'artifacts' phenomenon was likewise present in all of them.  SOS 

Well as of this writing am still trying out various settings but I would like to ask the others if they have experienced this type of erratic behavior on their full HD panels when using the DV600.  Would appreciate any suggestions / comments.

Many thanks,
M1

[Marl☆1]

bump on this, prob not yet resolved.    any suggestions from other 600AV users?

many thanks,
M1

[dB10]

just a suggestion, how about checking your hdmi cable if its loose or by borrowing another cable from a friend with no set up prob.

[garee]

meron na bang nakasubok ang usb port?

i tried it during the weekend, it work with my creative muvo 512mb with fat32 format
but when i used a 6gb usb ide external hd, it does not work, with fat32 formatting system too.

may limitation kaya yun kaya nyang i-read?

[Marl☆1]

just a suggestion, how about checking your hdmi cable if its loose or by borrowing another cable from a friend with no set up prob.

copy that.  thanks bud will try out that option. many thanks 

[Marl☆1]

meron na bang nakasubok ang usb port?

i tried it during the weekend, it work with my creative muvo 512mb with fat32 format
but when i used a 6gb usb ide external hd, it does not work, with fat32 formatting system too.

may limitation kaya yun kaya nyang i-read?

In my case... haven't tried the USB (given my issue with the screen resolution)- try ko rin later. 

[kt]

meron na bang nakasubok ang usb port?

i tried it during the weekend, it work with my creative muvo 512mb with fat32 format
but when i used a 6gb usb ide external hd, it does not work, with fat32 formatting system too.

may limitation kaya yun kaya nyang i-read?

hi  bro! im using the usb with my 120gb hd with fat32 n ok naman sya. baka sa format ng file di nya ma read? ang reklamo ko lang din dun is yung u have to choose pa on what formats to read upon initialization nya like wmvs or mp3s and jpegs

[Grimlock]

Got my Pioneer 600AV-S as a bday gift from my sister, very good video/audio compared to my previous player (Philips 727K). Got it at SM appliance @ 6,500; 6 mos. 0% interest

[Macross]

hi  bro! im using the usb with my 120gb hd with fat32 n ok naman sya. baka sa format ng file di nya ma read? ang reklamo ko lang din dun is yung u have to choose pa on what formats to read upon initialization nya like wmvs or mp3s and jpegs

bro, can the system play DIVx from the usb port? or just MP3s and JPEGs lang?

thanks.

[kt]

bro, can the system play DIVx from the usb port? or just MP3s and JPEGs lang?

thanks.

bro yup pwde din movies in divx format

[Trig]

hi  bro! im using the usb with my 120gb hd with fat32 n ok naman sya. baka sa format ng file di nya ma read? ang reklamo ko lang din dun is yung u have to choose pa on what formats to read upon initialization nya like wmvs or mp3s and jpegs

Sir KT pwede po ba malaman kung anong enclosure and hd ang gamit nyo and kung san nyo nabili? Sa tingin ko kasi removable media drives lang ang supported nya. Accdg to google, ang external hd ay may RMB(Removable media bit) na nagsasabi kung ang device ay local drive or removable drive. At naka-set ito thru hardware so hindi pwedeng baguhin yung RMB. Makikita mo sya kpg sinaksak mo sa PC, sa properties under volumes. Yung type either local/basic or removable

So far eto palang na-try ko:
   USB flash drive 2gb Fat format - no prob  <-removable media
   Ipod video 60gb fat32 format - no prob    <-removable media
   2 external 2.5 disk(tried both Fat and Fat32 format) - can't be detected     <-local/basic

Sa ngayon, naghahanap parin ako ng external hd na kayang isupport ng dv-600

TIA

[kt]

Sir KT pwede po ba malaman kung anong enclosure and hd ang gamit nyo and kung san nyo nabili? Sa tingin ko kasi removable media drives lang ang supported nya. Accdg to google, ang external hd ay may RMB(Removable media bit) na nagsasabi kung ang device ay local drive or removable drive. At naka-set ito thru hardware so hindi pwedeng baguhin yung RMB. Makikita mo sya kpg sinaksak mo sa PC, sa properties under volumes. Yung type either local/basic or removable

So far eto palang na-try ko:
   USB flash drive 2gb Fat format - no prob  <-removable media
   Ipod video 60gb fat32 format - no prob    <-removable media
   2 external 2.5 disk(tried both Fat and Fat32 format) - can't be detected     <-local/basic

Sa ngayon, naghahanap parin ako ng external hd na kayang isupport ng dv-600

TIA

hi bro trig! im using the western digital hd and it comes complete with case na eh
here's the pic n link:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=317

[Trig]

Sir KT, kapag po ba sa pc, ano yung disk type nya? tama ba hinala ko na Removable HD lang supported nya?

San nyo po nabili yung WD passport 120gb nyo and how much?

Thanks