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Home Theater => Sources => Branded DVD Players => Topic started by: danrd on Jun 05, 2007 at 10:28 AM
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Oh dear. Can't stop my drooling. I wonder when this will be available locally.
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Pioneer DV-600AV-S
Slim Silver DVD Player with superb DVD-Audio & SACD playback, USB input and Full HD upscaling through HDMI
Also available in Black
Product Features:
# Full HD slim DVD-Audio, SACD Player & DVD Video Player
# 1 x HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) Digital Link for superb digital pictures and sound
# Full HD 1080p Up-Conversion (upscaling) with HDMI
# Plays back DVD Audio, SACD, DVD Video, DVD-R/+R, DVD-RW/+RW, DVD-R/+R DL, DVD-RAM CD, SVCD, VCD, CD, CD-R, & CD-RW
# Supports MP3, WMA, JPEG, & DivX formats
# Front USB 2.0 port supports MPEG4 AAC, MP3, WMA, & JPEG
# Dual Pure Cinema Progressive Scan (NTSC & PAL)
# BNR Block Noise Reduction & Ringing NR
# Video DAC 108MHz / 12-bit, Audio DAC 192kHz / 24-bit
# SACD Multi Decoder & DVD-Audio Decoder
# 5.1-ch DTS, 2-ch DTS Downmix Output, 5.1-ch Dolby Digital Decoder
# Virtual Surround with Dialogue & Dynamic Range
# HDMI CEC lets you power up and control home cinema components from one remote control using HDMI CEC compatible products
# Connections include: 1 x USB (front), 1 x HDMI (version 1.3, 1080p scaling),
# 1 x Component, 1 x RGB Euro-SCART , 1 x Coaxial Digital Out, 1 x Optical Digital Out,
# 1 x S-Video Out, 1 x Video Out, 5.1-ch Output
# Power Consumption 12W, 0.8W standby
# Measures (WxHxD) 420 x 49.5 x 215.5 mm
# Weighs 1.8kg
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let the count down begin ;D
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any idea how much? :o
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Great news guys! Just talked to Western recto branch. Item is coming a month from now. Yipeeeee!! Tagged at 6,790 MORE YIPEEEE!!! Can't wait for it!
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Shux!! just ordered the sammy DVHD1080P7 from my cousin abroad.
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available din pala in black! :o
itchy.. itchy.. :D
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can't wait... i almost ordered the oppo 981
mas ok kaya ito sa oppo?
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available din pala in black! :o
itchy.. itchy.. :D
Ohhhh yeah! Cool isn't it? :)
can't wait... i almost ordered the oppo 981
mas ok kaya ito sa oppo?
Whew. Same here.
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available din pala in black! :o
itchy.. itchy.. :D
locally?
696 also had black but its only the North American Elite and British versions.
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locally?
696 also had black but its only the North American Elite and British versions.
Wel black model availability is unconfirmed yet. Let's find out after a month. Kung wala - "Kawawa naman tayong mga Pinoy. Black version lang pagdadamot pa nila" tsk! >:(
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Heheh ano ba ang issue sa color? Bakit ayaw nyo ba sa mestiza? ;D
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Heheh ano ba ang issue sa color? Bakit ayaw nyo ba sa mestiza? ;D
Silver is great but having it in black is an added pogi points don't you agree? ;) Hope this would be available.
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Hope they do release the black version locally para mas bagay sa mga flat panel displays with black bezels. Pero ok lang din kung walang black... what i'm really after is the 1080p upscaling so i can maximize my lcd. ;D
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Hope they do release the black version locally para mas bagay sa mga flat panel displays with black bezels. Pero ok lang din kung walang black... what i'm really after is the 1080p upscaling so i can maximize my lcd. ;D
Cheers to that! ;)
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wooaaa. this is another good investment. :)
black would definitely match your lcds. hehe.
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hay. ipon ulit.
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Danrd,
Lupit mo! ...maka SARS ;D
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Speaking of 1080i vs. 1080p player like the pio 696 and now this DV600, will there be significant difference if the signal is downscaled to the native 720p reso of the AX100? ::) tnx
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Danrd,
Lupit mo! ...maka SARS ;D
Tenkyu! ;D ;D
Speaking of 1080i vs. 1080p player like the pio 696 and now this DV600, will there be significant difference if the signal is downscaled to the native 720p reso of the AX100? ::) tnx
Pre this remains to be seen. But since our AX100 supports 1080p. I'm sure this would be a hell of improvement. :)
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Can you maximize the player's feature even on a 32" HDTV (720p/1080i ready) only?
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Can you maximize the player's feature even on a 32" HDTV (720p/1080i ready) only?
Yes you can. But since your tv is only 720p/1080i ready, the Pioneer DV-696AV-S fits you well.
Note: this is possible only thru hdmi.
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Yes you can. But since your tv is only 720p/1080i ready, the Pioneer DV-696AV-S fits you well.
Note: this is possible only thru hdmi.
@danrd:
Any idea how much is it? thanks
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@danrd:
Any idea how much is it? thanks
Bought mine for 6,995 at Automatic Center 2 months ago. Try other stores like Abenson. This item is usually per order basis. Great player. Goodluck ha. ;)
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Bought mine for 6,995 at Automatic Center 2 months ago. Try other stores like Abenson. This item is usually per order basis. Great player. Goodluck ha. ;)
@danrd:
Nice. thanks!! ;)
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Shux!! just ordered the sammy DVHD1080P7 from my cousin abroad.
from US or Singapore??? Magkano damage?
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Bro from my cousin in the US. Its 89$ via walmart online store. Good she called me up the other night not available daw so pina-defer ko muna. ;D
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As per the local Pioneer distributor, the DV-600AV/S is scheduled for a July launch. Target MSRP is Php6,790 which is lower than the DV-696. Features are pretty much what's been posted on this thread.
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As per the local Pioneer distributor, the DV-600AV/S is scheduled for a July launch. Target MSRP is Php6,790 which is lower than the DV-696. Features are pretty much what's been posted on this thread.
Wooo hohhohohohohohoh! I can't wait to get my hands on this. Sana may black. :D :D
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I'm planning to buy 696 but because Pioneer is having this available by next month I think I'll wait for this instead. Besides mas mura yata ito kesa sa 696.
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696 is just 5700 in ansons ortigas :)
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can Pioneer DV-600AV-S play mp3 or wma with bit rates of 320 and above ?thanks
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696 is just 5700 in ansons ortigas :)
I'll still go with 600. ;D
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can Pioneer DV-600AV-S play mp3 or wma with bit rates of 320 and above ?thanks
I think it will play as long as its still mp3. :)
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wow ok pala to cant wait for its arrival!!! my pio383s wont play mp3 or wma with bit rate beyond 192 :'(
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is it still ok to use this player even if my lcd tv can only support 720p/1080i?
can i adjust the player to just upscale to 720p or 1080i?
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M wondering why this model is not advertised in the pioneer asia-pacific website if this is made available in the area. ::)
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is it still ok to use this player even if my lcd tv can only support 720p/1080i?
can i adjust the player to just upscale to 720p or 1080i?
Definitely Yes! (in hdmi though) Even a 696 is enough to do the job in you situation. :)
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Definitely Yes! (in hdmi though) Even a 696 is enough to do the job in you situation. :)
thanks.
696 was an option but since 600 will be priced lower and with its additional features, i think i'll just wait for 600 to be released.
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Asked a Pioneer salesman last Sunday at Abenson. He mentioned there are already new shipment at the warehouse. Unconfirmed model nos. though. Sana eto na yun!! :)
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Bro Danrd, ano kaya group buy tayo nito, baka me discount tayo ;)
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Bro Danrd, ano kaya group buy tayo nito, baka me discount tayo ;)
Sama ako dyan..need new player too
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ako din pasali!!! ;D
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owww you see dami na kaagad. but m serious with the proposal. M just wondering if we can go directly to pioneer?
Considering the opinion about not actually getting a significant improvement if this is used with the 720p - ax100, maybe i will just be buying and using this with my ax100 for my peace of mind. ;D
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magkano po ba ngayon 600? baka makasabay. :)
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Bro Danrd, ano kaya group buy tayo nito, baka me discount tayo ;)
This is a good idea. Problem is wala akong kilala directly from Pioneer. And besides. I'm pretty sure konti lang ang discount na makukuha natin if we do this. But I'll try and ask around.
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Bro from my cousin in the US. Its 89$ via walmart online store. Good she called me up the other night not available daw so pina-defer ko muna. ;D
Mura yung ah for samsung, 199sgd dito eh. This Pioneer dv600av costs 299sgd (9k pesos) here. For me latest samsung upconversion is better than the pioneer. Only thing is universal itong pioneer.
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If you're planning to have a group buy count me in sir. I also asked a salesman of SM Appliance Center and he said this will be available by July. I can't remember the price but definitely less than 7k. I'm planning to set up my own entry level HT by August. I think this would be a good player for my HT. ;D
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bangan na lang nung ibang abangers ang mga pio 696 namin sa B&S section, hahaha :D :D :D
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I can facilitate a group buy sa ansons makati. Will try for a 20-25% disc on SRP when its available.
damn... upgrade nanaman... just barely used my 696.
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does this still come with the burr brown d/a chip? planning to use it for audio.
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I can facilitate a group buy sa ansons makati. Will try for a 20-25% disc on SRP when its available.
That's good bro!
I hope it'll push...
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personally i dont get why I would need a 1080p upscaling dvd player.
if my screens native resolution is 720p then no sense. if my screen is 1080p then id be better off in hd/blu-ray. why even try to upscale a dvd to 1080p???
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personally i dont get why I would need a 1080p upscaling dvd player.
if my screens native resolution is 720p then no sense. if my screen is 1080p then id be better off in hd/blu-ray. why even try to upscale a dvd to 1080p???
that's right, i guess there are to many hurdles to take from 480i upscale to 1080p (dvdp) then to lcd downscale to 720p ;D
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personally i dont get why I would need a 1080p upscaling dvd player.
if my screens native resolution is 720p then no sense. if my screen is 1080p then id be better off in hd/blu-ray. why even try to upscale a dvd to 1080p???
This is the fact that is killing my nerve to buy an upscaling player now because i am using the 720p ax100 . ::) Comments vary a lot and it never really give me big push.
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the dv400 is also 1080p upscaling pala. havent seen a dv600 yet.
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wow people are upgrading. lol. if anyone wants to sell their 696 to me just send me a PM. sama nyo na rin hdmi cable..just need a short one. just got my first hdtv last friday :) 32r81
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Tanong ko lang po kung available na ito locally kasi ang alam ko labas daw nito ngayong July? How much? :)
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7k in shang. forgot the store basta one of those specialty av stores
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Thanks! ;D I thought it's only less than 7k. Hope it's available in Abenson or SM Appliance.
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its by order basis only at abenson for 6,798.
you just have to talk to the pioneer sale rep and give a downpayment.
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same din sa shang 6990 6 months 0 interest
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jeff of TheaterWorks is selling dv600 at Php6300 and dv400 at Php5500. cash only.
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jeff of TheaterWorks is selling dv600 at Php6300 and dv400 at Php5500. cash only.
bro, san yun TheaterWorks? any contact numbers? thanks. :)
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bro, san yun TheaterWorks? any contact numbers? thanks. :)
you could send a pm to Nemesis91
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its by order basis only at abenson for 6,798.
you just have to talk to the pioneer sale rep and give a downpayment.
Salamat sa info? Magkano daw po ang down at gaano po katagal bago makuha? Wala po ba silang ino-offer na payment plan?
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Mga sir sa tingin ko po dami interested on this new DVD Player, wala po ba talaga mag-initiate ng group buy? Just a suggestion. ;D
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meron sa sm moa 6.7k plus.. kay nemesis mura na yon. sa trinoma mall lang.
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Salamat sa info? Magkano daw po ang down at gaano po katagal bago makuha? Wala po ba silang ino-offer na payment plan?
nag-phonecall lang ako, kaya di ko alam kung how much ang down. 2 days daw makukuha ng yung unit.
the reason kaya ayaw pa raw mag-stock sa abenson is becoz meron pa nung 696... gusto munang ubusin yung stock.
talagang resourceful and up-to-date lang ang mga taga-pinoydvd kaya minsan nagugulat pa sila na alam na natin ang mga bagong model ;D
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guys tanong lng malaki ba diff pag naging 1080? wat does upscaling only thru hdmi mean? is this the same as a HDMI player?
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if you dont use HDMI...dvd player will just output the normal dvd resolution...then the tv will upscale the image.
if you upscale it...dvd player will pass on an HD image to the tv already.
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a ganun..ayos! ;D
tnx anti..congrats sa r81 hehe
can i still use my htq20 as ht while using this dvd player?
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van: thats why i didnt get the home theater option anymore. it doesnt have any inputs for surround sound. it will lose its surround capability when you use another player. you know what...i dont see a difference from the normal player it replaced...i dont think its worth losing surround for that. baka meron naman but its not noticable even when i was looking for the difference in PQ when i switched players.
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really? guess stik muna ko sa player ko til nex year.. ;D
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meron sa sm moa 6.7k plus.. kay nemesis mura na yon. sa trinoma mall lang.
where in trinoma mall? kindly post or PM thanks.
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posting some promising reviews from avforums. as usual, YMMV :D:
MrSynner@avsforums wrote:
Got my black multi-region model from AVLand on Monday.
Good points:
Upscales very well.
Actually, very VERY well - all the way up to 1080p (although my telly only goes up to 1080i) SACD and DVD-Audio sound fabulous. According to the manual, it will stream DVD-A and SACD, as well as Dobly and DTS via HDMI. Does that make it HDMI v1.3? Can't test this, as I don't have HDMI on my amp (and there are NO v1.3 HDMI amps available, AFAIK).
Has so far played everything I've tried - including DVD+RW recordings (which my old Pioneer 565 player couldn't handle)
Doesn't sound like a hoover when spinning up a disc, unlike my now binned Samsung 950. Happily talked to my iPOD (and charged it) when I plugged it into the USB port. Could play music from it too - although it won't read the disc structure, leaving me selecting bizarrely named files at random.
Bad:
It's fugly with the exposed USB port (no dustcap or cover on it) to the left of the facia, and an unsightly bright red '1080p!' sticker on an otherwise black faceplate. Terrible (white!) remote, that matches the player in no way whatsoever.
Worst of all - Lipsynch drifts about a bit - can be cured with judicious use of the stop or pause button, but still annoying, as my TV is always a fraction of a second behind the sound, and the elderly Denon amp doesn't have lipsynch adjustment - and nor does the Pioneer.
Still rather pleased with it though.
a comparison between the dv600 and tosh HD-A1:
degsmurr@avsforums wrote:
Hi all, as promised........couldn't tear myself away. Using my HD-A1 HD-DVD as a reference point herewith is my observations:
Upscaling Facilities - Better than HD-A1, but the HD-A1 only upscales to 1080i anyway. Comparing the two machines using 1080i upscaling the Pioneer just has the edge on closeups. When switching to 1080p there is a visible improvement in detail over 1080i. This is using my Panny PT-AE1000 please note!
DVD Playback - Played all R1 and R2 discs I threw at except DVD copies using ISO files, which means it will only play DVD-Video, this has included original DVD's and copies on DVD-R. DVD+R, DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL. Picture quality in all cases were excellent, but of course the Pioneeer loses out to the HD-A1on HD quality but is the best I have seen so far.
Audio - My set up includes the Sony 1200ES amp which is fed by a coaxial from the Pioneer and optical from the HD-A1. Excellent audio from both machines but I couldn't detect any discernible difference between the two. I have not tried the USB port as I have no need to use it as yet, but I understand it will play most files, incuding DivX.
Aesthetics - Very light to handle, can be picked up in one hand! Yes I agree the bright red 1080p is a bit obstrusive but I have got my back to it most of the time! I also agree on the handset which seems a bit out of place on a black machine??? All video and visual settings can be tweaked by using on screen menus.
I am very, very pleased with it's performance so far and look forward to enjoying many more hours going through my DVD collection of R1 and R2 discs again.
Degs
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some more revealing reviews (with the usual disclaimer, e.g. - YMMV ) ;D
against the mighty denon 1930:
MrQuint@avsforums wrote:
Well i got my DV600 and i have to say it wipes the floor with the Denon 1930, all my Lip sync issues have gone. Put in The Rock on R1 that was all over the place on the 1930 with Lip Sync, the DV600 is smack on.
Put in various Discs like Jaws, The Rock, Star Wars Ep III on R1 & Monsters Inc, Casino Royal & Midge Ure the rewind tour on R2 and all are perfect Lip Sync wise and the picture is Stunning @ 1080p on my LE40M86.
To top off this little write up i would say anyone who is after an upscaleing DVD player, multi region that judgeing by other comments can play loads of other stuff too, the DV600 is where its at.
Dont Listen to the What HI-FI bag of idiots, listen to the real testers on this forum. Go Buy and enjoy, Simple.
Originally Posted by TommyVecetti
Mr. Quint, how is the upscaling compared to the PS3?
MrQuint@avsforums wrote:
I would say Better, just. The picture seems to have more depth, i was watching the chase at the start of Casino R and there was for def more depth to the pictue, also with the Pioneer DV600 the sound has more depth than the PS3, again only by a smidge, so its the Pioneer DV600 all the way.
But like i said before, if the PS3 was Multi region i would have stuck with that, i do like to have a dedicated player however.
So PS3 for all My Blu Ray and the mighty Pioneer DV600 for all my R1 & R2 DVD's to be upscscaled to 1080p.
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yng philips mas mura ng almost 1k a.. diff nila ng pio 600?
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not if you know where to look. hehe. the 5986K is 5,990... while for less than P500 more you can get the 600AV.
- the philips has karaoke function, pioneer has not.
- pioneer outputs 480i/576i, the philips does not.
important if you want to have the display do the upscaling.
- the pioneer has optical (audio) out, the philips has not.
- both have 12-bit 108mhz video dac and are fully 1080p.
- both supports a/v playback on a usb port.
i won't say one is better than the other, so take your pick.
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AFAIK, Philips DVP5986K/98 does not have DVD-Audio/SACD playback support... Pioneer DV-600AV-S has DVD-Audio/SACD playback support... ::)
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do i need a HD disc to see the 1080 PQ or any dvd will do?
tnx agen
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do i need a HD disc to see the 1080 PQ or any dvd will do?
tnx agen
nope, standard def dvds will do, provided your display can output 1080p resolution. ;)
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Just waiting for the review of owners of the 600AV using a 720p pj. ;D
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not if you know where to look. hehe. the 5986K is 5,990... while for less than P500 more you can get the 600AV.
- the philips has karaoke function, pioneer has not.
- pioneer outputs 480i/576i, the philips does not.
important if you want to have the display do the upscaling.
- the pioneer has optical (audio) out, the philips has not.
- both have 12-bit 108mhz video dac and are fully 1080p.
- both supports a/v playback on a usb port.
i won't say one is better than the other, so take your pick.
so where to look? i think the new 5986K already have the 480i/576i output(accrding to manual) and the optical out. it already has DTS support which the previous model lacks. (see the pioneer specs http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/dvp5986k_98/dvp5986k_98_pss_aen.pdf; manual here http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/dvp5986k_98/dvp5986k_98_dfu_eng.pdf)
the advantage of the pioneer i'm seeing is the DVD-Audio/SACD playback support stated earlier, and would still go with this player. pa-pm na lang po saan best kumuha nito. thnx!
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Scoured the whole ayalacenter for this yesterday... Wed or Thurs daw ang dating.
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i think the new 5986K already have the 480i/576i output(accrding to manual) and the optical out. it already has DTS support which the previous model lacks.
the advantage of the pioneer i'm seeing is the DVD-Audio/SACD playback support stated earlier, and would still go with this player.
nope... the philips has no optical out/s-video out. it also doesn't output 480i/576i but straight to progressive already (480p/576p). it do has formal DTS support now as compared to the 5965 w/c is only available thru a hack.
so where to look? pa-pm na lang po saan best kumuha nito. thnx!
Scoured the whole ayalacenter for this yesterday... Wed or Thurs daw ang dating.
well, our pdvd meister here sir nemesis has this unit at his store in trinoma, theaterworks at a very attractive price. ;)
you can visit his site here: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60748.504 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60748.504)
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gearhead, yeah... read they have it there. Unfortunately, Trinoma is too far for me. ;)
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i hav no idea how 1080 looks like.. so when i upscale from 480i to 1080i should i expect a big change?
just want to make sure before i spend another 10k hehe
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i hav no idea how 1080 looks like.. so when i upscale from 480i to 1080i should i expect a big change?
just want to make sure before i spend another 10k hehe
480i to 1080i - big change for me. Buying the 696 is worth it for me. If the 600 is said to be better than the 696, I'd like to buy one also ;D Is it? ???
The USB is also a plus, even if they're at par at 1080i.
Have anybody compared the 696 vs. 600 at 1080i/720p?
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got my unit yesterday courtesy of theaterworks (trinoma). haven't really gotten past testing the audio section first. di ko pa kasi na-setup ang pj ko and wala pa rin akong hdmi cable.
initial impression is really very good... excellent audio performance whether through coax or analog through the L/R output. will be testing the optical out probably this evening. my philips 5500s compared to this sounds a bit sterile. now, between the digital out and analog out, the former has more horizontal and vertical spread, but the analog one has more body. bass is more rounded with the 600 as i noticed dati pa that my hk avr's low end seems a bit edgy (comparing to a marantz avr naman). they have about as much detail though delivered quite differently. so no worries whether you use this as a plain cd transport or a standalone cd player.
just remember though that i'm essentially comparing my avr's onboard dac and the pio 600's dac (burr-brown???? haven't heard one yet, but if it's the one on this player... it sounded really good). as usual, us having different setups.... YMMV!!! ::)
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GUYS will this dvd player be any good to people who does'nt have an HDMI capable TV? that is is would there be any benefit or improvements? im currently using a pio383s thanks
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GUYS will this dvd player be any good to people who does'nt have an HDMI capable TV? that is is would there be any benefit or improvements? im currently using a pio383s thanks
If you're after better PQ, I'd advise you to wait till you have an HDTV with HDMI to use the upscaling feature.
If you're after better SQcompared to older Pioneer DVD's, playability of more formats (e.g. divx, DVD-A, SACD), USB, then it's a worthwhile expense.
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Im selling one, recently bought it last tuesday 17-July-2007
Kindly check out this link:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68662.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68662.0)
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Hey guys,
I had reformat my offer.
Kindly check-out the thread again. Thanks ;)
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68662.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68662.0)
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have the chance to compare my dv600 with an older 300-series. yeah, there are noticeable audible differences.... mostly in favor of the newer incarnation. i still have one niggle with the player, the turn on time. you sit there after pressing the on/standby button wondering whether the thing will ever come on. it wouldn't be so bad if at least there's an led indicator or something, much like with my 5500s which has it on the power button. minor niggle though considering the much improved performance you get from it.
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Will the pioneer DV600 take advantage of HDCD recordings?
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Finally got myself one last Saturday... some gripes i have on it...
1.) SACD only on HDMI or Analog (it will not work no Digital)
2.) Takes too long to power-up (no indicator that its starting up)
It's still is worth it! I now have a reason to get myself a HDMI compatible TV and an HDMI compatible AVR. That is not in the near future though... ahehehee...
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2.) Takes too long to power-up (no indicator that its starting up)
yeah! when i bought mine i'm not really paying attention to the testing, so when the salesguy showed me it's powered up and working fine i have it packed already. the first time i turned it on at home... my heart skipped a bit as i'm sure everything's plugged in but nothing's happening when i press the power button. my face even turned red a bit knowing it powered up when tested at the store. so imagine my relief when i saw the display suddenly come to life. :D
anyway, i was testing it the almost the whole day yesterday using the analog output and i'm very much pleased with it.
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gearhead,
If your attuned to other players, it instantly powers-up. Kakabahan ka talaga guessing bakit ayaw mag power at kakabili mo lang. Ahehehee...
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just curious, gano po katagal ang power on time nito? is it more than 10 seconds?
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not sure if it ever reaches 10sec. will check it later. but for sure the waiting seems like an eternity since you're blind the whole time with no visual or physical cues whatsoever.
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ok sir gearhead, thanks for the quick reply :D
I guess its still ok if the power on time will not exceed 10 seconds ;D
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10 secs is really annoying.. Is there any way to upgrade it's firmware to improve this power on time?
How much are these players nowadays?
Thanks,
Fait
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matagal nga ang 10 secs..yng lcd nga mga 2 secs din .. kainip na e ;D
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i measured the turn on time just a while ago. from a cold start it is @5-6 secs, and a lot faster if coming from standby.
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thanks for the update sir gearhead.
For me 5-6 seconds is still ok; I guess it seems just longer because there's no indication on the unit when you turn it on..
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just both one yesterday.. ok naman may improvement sa sound n PQ(wife comment) compared to may pio383 both connected thru component n optical cable.. no hdmi yet!! :-\
downside was it wont support variable and lossless wma!! :'(
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yygoob,
I think the real deal with the 600AV is the support for DivX and DivX Ultra. Tried an HD encoded DivX film and i was amazed with the PQ. I think it's even better the the P* DVD copies.
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yygoob,
I think the real deal with the 600AV is the support for DivX and DivX Ultra. Tried an HD encoded DivX film and i was amazed with the PQ. I think it's even better the the P* DVD copies.
Hi, what's the resolution of the HD encoded divx file? Thanks.
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Tried to run a downloaded 1080p sample!!! to my dismay it does'nt support such a resolution!! :'(
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@firestorm,
I didn't check, i was running on standard resolution w/o progressive.
@yygoob,
You need HDMI to upscale to 1080p, standard component connection won't give you 1080p. Kaya siguro hindi mo makita ang video sa TV.
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@yygoob,
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You need HDMI to upscale to 1080p, standard component connection won't give you 1080p. Kaya siguro hindi mo makita ang video sa TV.
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I believe that is not the case... since the error that i receive from the player is that it does not support such resolution...i seems that it can only play standard resolution media then through HDMI it will upscale tha same to 1080p.. if the movie itself is 1080p 0r 720p.. the player wont be able to play the same.. ;D not too sure though
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guys, can this dv-600 upscale thru its component output at a lesser resolution like 720p or 1080i ? I don't have a hdmi monitor yet eh! :-\
By the way, I think most pioneer dvd players has this slow start feature (like my dv-393). I believe this is designed intentionally to prevent sudden surged of electricity to buffer the power supply circuit, like the soft start function on some TV's. I noticed most generic dvd players has this sudden spike when the power button is pushed on, thus eventually leading to power supply damage/failure. I already experienced this with one of my generic players. :'(
I will gladly accept such turn on delay rather than damaging the unit. ;)
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guys, can this dv-600 upscale thru its component output at a lesser resolution like 720p or 1080i ? I don't have a hdmi monitor yet eh! :-\
By the way, I think most pioneer dvd players has this slow start feature (like my dv-393). I believe this is designed intentionally to prevent sudden surged of electricity to buffer the power supply circuit, like the soft start function on some TV's. I noticed most generic dvd players has this sudden spike when the power button is pushed on, thus eventually leading to power supply damage/failure. I already experienced this with one of my generic players. :'(
I will gladly accept such turn on delay rather than damaging the unit. ;)
yes it can upscale to 720p. with regards to divx hd..it wont play 720 divx files...sad to say. i have a dv 400 and that one cant either. maybe pio will release divx hd compliant players soon.
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yes it can upscale to 720p.
thru component? ::)
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thru component? ::)
same ::)
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As far i can remember from the manual, upscaling even at 720p is only done via HDMI.
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guys, can this dv-600 upscale thru its component output at a lesser resolution like 720p or 1080i ? I don't have a hdmi monitor yet eh! :-\
except for the samsung hd841 that was sold here by electrohaus, i don't think there are other universal players available locally that does upconversion thru component.
By the way, I think most pioneer dvd players has this slow start feature (like my dv-393). I believe this is designed intentionally to prevent sudden surged of electricity to buffer the power supply circuit, like the soft start function on some TV's. I noticed most generic dvd players has this sudden spike when the power button is pushed on, thus eventually leading to power supply damage/failure. I already experienced this with one of my generic players. :'(
I will gladly accept such turn on delay rather than damaging the unit. ;)
well, that wouldn't be too annoying if at least there are some visual cues to it waking up from an off state. my other player the philips 5500s also do a soft power up but at least there's an LED indicator that lights up first in the power button.
anyway, i'm curious how true is the claim from this site that it do have burr-brown DAC's???
http://www.avland.co.uk/pioneer/dv600/dv600.htm (http://www.avland.co.uk/pioneer/dv600/dv600.htm)
to wit:
Pioneer DV-600
- HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface)
- HDMI Video Upscaling to 1080p
- DivX Ultra Playback
- Will output Dolby Digital from DivX titles
- Compatible with SACD, DVD-A, DVD-Video, MP3, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-R and DVD-RW
- Built-in Dolby Digital & DTS Decoders & Virtual Dolby Surround
- Burr-Brown 192kHz/24-bit DACs
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@gearhead,
Only way to find out is to open it... who has the guts to break their warranty?
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Burr Brown DACS @ 6+k only? Should be a steal if thats true.
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Got myself a DV-600 yesterday from Theater Works for my bedroom setup.
I thought the USB connection can read portable hard disks. Apparently it cant. :-[
Nice PQ from component progressive scan pa lang. I wonder how it would look w/ a upscaled HDMI connection.
Anybody got a spare cable I could borrow for a week? ;D jk
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wow, matz... care to post your opinion/observation on the analog out performance of this player as compared to your other players? i have only the philips 5500s to compare it to, and so far i'm fairly satisfied. i'm curious though how it stacks up to other more upscale players.
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wow, matz... care to post your opinion/observation on the analog out performance of this player as compared to your other players? i have only the philips 5500s to compare it to, and so far i'm fairly satisfied. i'm curious though how it stacks up to other more upscale players.
Initial observations:
Video on my 32" TV, a bit better than my older Pioneer 233 (no p scan) or Philips 534k (didnt use the P scan). Havent pitted it against my GIEC (720p upconverting DVDp thru component) in my main setup yet cuz I dont have an HDMI cable.
Audio, better than the 2 above (233 & 534) & my Victor surplus CDP. But it wont beat a good dedicated CDp thats for sure.
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Initial observations:
Video, better than my older Pioneer 233 or Philips 534k. Havent pitted it against my GIEC upconverting DVDp thru component yet cuz I dont have a HDMI cable yet.
Audio, better than the 2 above & my Victor surplus CDP. But it wont beat a good dedicated CDp thats for sure.
ayos, si idol bumili din... balak ko rin bilhin yan sa Pinas dahil mas mahal dito sa SG e, $379=P11k :o how much mo pala nakuha sir Matz?
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Hmm, kala ko lahat na electronics mas mura sa Sing. :-\
Kay Theater Works Trinoma ko kinuha, he has special discount for pdvd members ;). Get your Bada LC there na rin ;)
i hav no idea how 1080 looks like.. so when i upscale from 480i to 1080i should i expect a big change?
just want to make sure before i spend another 10k hehe
for those asking about the PQ difference of upconversion, I experimented w/ a fellow member who brought a HDMI DVDp to my house last year.
Our observations: upscaling has a big difference, but on big screens 42" up. On my 32" LCD, not as much IMO :(.
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Hmm, kala ko lahat na electronics mas mura sa Sing. :-\
Kay Theater Works Trinoma ko kinuha, he has special discount for pdvd members ;). Get your Bada LC there na rin ;)
yun nga e, mejo weird ung pricing ng pioneer... un lang talaga ang mas mahal, labo...
Yup i will get it there na rin =)
ill visit them next week pag-uwi ko
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mga sirs! can i play divx movies thru the usb port ng Pioneer DV-600AV-S? para hindi ko na i-burn ung mga downloads ko sa net.. kung pwede po kasi, i'll just buy an external hard drive with bigger a memory instead of buying a bunch of discs. tyia ;D
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mga sirs! can i play divx movies thru the usb port ng Pioneer DV-600AV-S? para hindi ko na i-burn ung mga downloads ko sa net.. kung pwede po kasi, i'll just buy an external hard drive with bigger a memory instead of buying a bunch of discs. tyia ;D
i have a philips with a usb port, it can be done pero FAT32 lang dapat format ng Hd mo, ewan ko lang sa pio dv600
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tried the upscaling abilities of the dv600 na with the ae900 using a generic hdmi cable. well, i can say it compares well with the internal upscaler of the panny... and sometimes it even betters it. i played some pdvd and there are scenes where you would notice comb filtering and jaggies with the internal scaler while it would be smooth with the dv600. if the video signal is good, i let the panny do the scaling to let it do its thing with its cinema modes (though it still functions naman even with the pio doing the upscaling).
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HELP..need to know and if anyone can please confirm if this player can upscale via component. I have the fist generation HD LCD of Sony which does not have an HDMI input, only component.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
JoeyGS
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i have a philips with a usb port, it can be done pero FAT32 lang dapat format ng Hd mo, ewan ko lang sa pio dv600
FAT32? pasenya na po sir.. pano ko po malalaman kung FAT32 ung format? ???
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FAT32? pasenya na po sir.. pano ko po malalaman kung FAT32 ung format? ???
right click mo lang yun hard drive, go to properties, tapos makikita mo na sa file system ;)
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saw this at sm appliances clark at php 6,790, ibibigay raw ng php 6,586 cash pero last stock na lang nila ang display eh ginagamit nila ito sa pag-dedemo araw araw, tumawag na sila sa main out of stock na raw, ok kaya ito kahit display nila ang kunin ko?
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i'll advise you wait for new stock. you won't miss that much naman if you're using something na as a player.
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pinademo ko ang dv600 sa sm appliances sa clark sa dala kong R1,R2 and pdvd at pina-set ko sa 1080i, 720p and 480p respectively via hdmi para icompare ang PQ pero parang wala akong nakitang difference o pagkakaiba sa picture and color ng component video pati nga ang brother ko ganun din ang sagot sa akin, talaga bang may differences sa PQ ang upscaling dvd player o kulang pa ang aming observation? ika nga ng brother ko kung sa component output palang solid na at good PQ na ang nakikita namin eh di wala ka ng maicocompare.
i'll advise you wait for new stock. you won't miss that much naman if you're using something na as a player.
thanks gearhead for your advice.
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This is one reason why i am not so inspired to get this now to pair it with my AX100. Though if there will come a different observation it would be a matter that would be looked into.
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pinademo ko ang dv600 sa sm appliances sa clark sa dala kong R1,R2 and pdvd at pina-set ko sa 1080i, 720p and 480p respectively via hdmi para icompare ang PQ pero parang wala akong nakitang difference o pagkakaiba sa picture and color ng component video pati nga ang brother ko ganun din ang sagot sa akin, talaga bang may differences sa PQ ang upscaling dvd player o kulang pa ang aming observation? ika nga ng brother ko kung sa component output palang solid na at good PQ na ang nakikita namin eh di wala ka ng maicocompare.thanks gearhead for your advice.
I'm sure this comparison was made using 32 inchers only right? It really won't make a huge difference no matter what player you have. Big screens 42" and up are the best reference which is btw the reason this players were for. ;)
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Hi danrd,
Is this case in general? PQ differences will only be realized on big screens? Therefore if you are using 32" screens, just settle for component connections?
Regards,
JoeyGS
I'm sure this comparison was made using 32 inchers only right? It really won't make a huge difference no matter what player you have. Big screens 42" and up are the best reference which is btw the reason this players were for. ;)
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Hi danrd,
Is this case in general? PQ differences will only be realized on big screens? Therefore if you are using 32" screens, just settle for component connections?
Regards,
JoeyGS
IMHO and experience -"YES!"
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I believe this is the us version DV-400V-K priced at $99.00
(http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/8292/8292448_sa.jpg)
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Hi danrd,
Is this case in general? PQ differences will only be realized on big screens? Therefore if you are using 32" screens, just settle for component connections?
Regards,
JoeyGS
I have shared about my experience w/ this many times in this forum:
for those asking about the PQ difference of upconversion, I experimented w/ a fellow member who brought a HDMI DVDp to my house last year.
Our observations: upscaling has a big difference, but on big screens 42" up. On my 32" LCD, not as much IMO :(.
I am currently using the DV-600 in my bedroom w/ component & no complaints here (32" LCD). I wasnt even using progressive scan before I got the dv-600!
I am not willing to spend 3k for an HDMI cable, since as I have experimented last year, the difference of an upconverting DVDp wasnt huge on a 32" (but huge diff on a PJ though). Try nyo na lang line conditioners, baka mas may difference pa. ;)
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Regarding the DV-600's USB:
1.) It cant seem to read my portable hard disk (but its a divx HD player)
2.) It cant read HDef divx
3.) It cant read an Mpeg4 file I tried an hour ago (using thumb drive) that I got from my camera
4.) Converted that MP4 file to mpeg3, but only sound came out & no picture :(
This DVDp is not working according to my expectations :(
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Dear MatZTER,
Thanks for your valuable input. I am currently using a 32" Sony LCD which is only HD ready and has no HDMI input.
I currently have an Onkyo DVD player which only displays 480p max and would like to know is this Pioneer will upgrade the PQ of my LCD?
Thanks and regards,
JoeyGS
I have shared about my experience w/ this many times in this forum:
I am currently using the DV-600 in my bedroom w/ component & no complaints here (32" LCD). I wasnt even using progressive scan before I got the dv-600!
I am not willing to spend 3k for an HDMI cable, since as I have experimented last year, the difference of an upconverting DVDp wasnt huge on a 32". Try nyo line conditioners, baka mas may difference pa. ;)
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im currently using a pioneer 686a on my tosh 46" DLP. would the 600av-s be a good upgrade with noticeable difference? TIA!
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Dear MatZTER,
Thanks for your valuable input. I am currently using a 32" Sony LCD which is only HD ready and has no HDMI input.
I currently have an Onkyo DVD player which only displays 480p max and would like to know is this Pioneer will upgrade the PQ of my LCD?
Thanks and regards,
JoeyGS
Try to look for an upconverting DVD player that does so via component. There will still be improvements somehow, but they are just much more noticeable w/ bigger displays.
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HDMI w/ calibration of your display to the new connection would really bring out noticeable results.
Tried upconverting pioneer dvd player w/ HDMI vs. HTPC w/ VGA. The HTPC is still better for me even if it is on a Dsub VGA connection only. Colors were more vibrant and blacks were deeper. You don't even have to tweak the settings a lot for that WOW factor w/ the PC. I need to caibrate my TV video settings to get a satisfying result on my Pioneer DVD player via HDMI.
Kaya before giving in buying an hdmi dvd player, consider an htpc first. The difference in price is well worth it.
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im currently using a pioneer 686a on my tosh 46" DLP. would the 600av-s be a good upgrade with noticeable difference? TIA!
i would think so, coz as with my panny ae900 i noticed quite a difference. better upconversion though not necessarily better color or better contrast. as what nerveblocker said above, you should calibrate your source/display to get the colors you want (which may or may not be the correct one). to some, the component output gives more pleasing results.
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Dear MatZTER,
Yup that's the way to go I guess. DVD players that does upconversion via component is starting to disappear as I see newer models that have discarded such feature. will see if I can still get the Samsung 841? or one of the Oppo models. I am not sure if Pioneer still has one.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
JoeyGS
Try to look for an upconverting DVD player that does so via component. There will still be improvements somehow, but they are just much more noticeable w/ bigger displays.
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Last Sunday, my friend tried his 696 and 600 via component using his new ax-100 then later on with this old ae-700, to our surprise, the 600 showed better PQ.
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Last Sunday, my friend tried his 696 and 600 via component using his new ax-100 then later on with this old ae-700, to our surprise, the 600 showed better PQ.
Wow! Better picture quality just thru component? (which is strange btw) What more on hdmi. :)
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Maybe this would change your mind....
Media Center XPC (http://www.buyqube.com/MediaCenterXPCIntro.htm)
Sorry just trying to be a devil's advocate here. :D
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Maybe this would change your mind....
Media Center XPC (http://www.buyqube.com/MediaCenterXPCIntro.htm)
Sorry just trying to be a devil's advocate here. :D
Ok Mr Devil's advocate. ;D ;D You got me thinking. Is it possible to have the same remote setup even if I assemble a basic tower?
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Last Sunday, my friend tried his 696 and 600 via component using his new ax-100 then later on with this old ae-700, to our surprise, the 600 showed better PQ.
So inspiring ... ;D bro can you elaborate more please ...
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i would think so, coz as with my panny ae900 i noticed quite a difference. better upconversion though not necessarily better color or better contrast. as what nerveblocker said above, you should calibrate your source/display to get the colors you want (which may or may not be the correct one). to some, the component output gives more pleasing results.
tnx for the reply! hmm thats why its more tempting to get the 600av...especially with all the praises here! hehe ;D
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The unit only supports FAT32 so if your mobile drive was formatted NTFS, the unit won't be able to read it.
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Hmm.... anybody else got a 696 vs 600 review on pq... might just decide to upgrade too.
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Last Sunday, my friend tried his 696 and 600 via component using his new ax-100 then later on with this old ae-700, to our surprise, the 600 showed better PQ.
We again had a head to head challenge between the 696 and 600 this afternoon. The 600 using just component still had a better PQ compared to 696 using HDMI. Any violent reaction?? :)
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yun na nga.... kapag sa component output palang a better PQ na ano pa ang makikita namin sa upscaling ng 720p or 1080p ng hdmi? parang pareho lang kasi...baka masayang lang ang pagbili ko nito at ng hdmi cable.
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finally decided to get the 600av last nyt. i still havent tweaked my unit that well for HDMI connection. how do u know what upconversion is best for my display? tnx
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finally decided to get the 600av last nyt. i still havent tweaked my unit that well for HDMI connection. how do u know what upconversion is best for my display? tnx
Personal taste I guess. I prefer 1080i on my Aquos.
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The 600 using just component still had a better PQ compared to 696 using HDMI. Any violent reaction??
After extensively calibrating my DLP panel, I still prefer the 696's component output vs. HDMI. The Faroudja chip on the TV is a major factor probably since it upscales beautifully to 720p.
HDMI performance on my TV is marred by some visible artifacting in scenes with a heavy preponderance of certain colors combined with fine textures (ie night sky scenes, underwater scenes, etc.). Quoting myself in another thread:
I tried Superman (1978 version, Region 1 2001 release) and saw problems immediately. In the first act of the film, there were clear aberrations in certain scenes. The red sun comes to mind as well as the Kryptonian sky as the Phantom Zone mirror/portal drops from space to claim General Zod and company. 720p via HDMI produced visible color banding and posterization artifacts that were absent when viewing the same scenes over component.
Still, maybe I'm just too sensitive to video artifacts. Other people don't notice the problem until I point it out to them.
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sad to say, but i do think i get same or more pleasing video quality too using my philips 5500s component output. to quote myself also:
i would think so, coz as with my panny ae900 i noticed quite a difference. better upconversion though not necessarily better color or better contrast. as what nerveblocker said above, you should calibrate your source/display to get the colors you want (which may or may not be the correct one). to some, the component output gives more pleasing results.
it's just i might still stay with the hdmi coz i can't bear the hassle of running another three cables as it'll be a cable management nightmare. i already have two surround cables, the hdmi, coaxial for the antenna input and extension cord for the pj. :-\ also, the 600av has better analog audio performance than the above philips. ;)
using full rgb color on hdmi, you get better contrast... but then it looks "video" to me, not cinematic. switching to component color (still on hdmi) gives more pleasing results. if it's a bit washed out, i just lower the brightness a notch either on the pj or the player, or both... and choose between the 3 cinema modes for the better rendition. i also turn down the sharpness to "soft" as even with just the standard setting, there are some objectionable ringing/edge enhancements especially on low bitrate materials.
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can the firmware for this be updated?
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got an HDMI cable yesterday & compared component versus HDMI on a 32" LCD.
As of now, the most obvious difference I see is that the HDMI gives a brighter picture exposing the details of black portions. A little sharper picture too at 720p. Component colors feel more natural & has good saturation of colors.
I (& my wife) do not like the 1080i images as its too bright & washed out.
But like I said before, not night & day difference on a 32" screen (viewing distance 4m).
I like the setting best at 720p w/ HDMI color set at component.
I dont use a line conditioner in my bedroom setup so I seem to notice more grains? But not too sure. Will try to connect to a line conditioner if it will reduce grains, or maybe the DVD I demoed was grainy.
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matzter,
comparing a regular toshiba DVD player via component and this pioneer via hdmi (upscaled to 720p), would the pioneer give significant PQ difference on a 32" LCD tv?
or hindi parin?
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That depends, the word "significant" is subjective. I have seen the upconversion effect on a 90"-96" image (in my primary setup) to w/c I find to be a significant improvement.
Therefore, because of this experience, I do not find the parallel effect significant on a smaller 32" screen. Its called the "Law of Diminishing Returns" :D.
But note that there is a positive difference though, but whether it is justified to spend on an upgrade depends on your eye's & pocket's judgement. But to me, not that much unless you have 40" + screens. <--that is subjective too. :D
just my 2 c3nts!
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yep got that :) im probably just itching for something that will use the potential of my TV, specifically the HDMI ports :)
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got an HDMI cable yesterday & compared component versus HDMI on a 32" LCD.
As of now, the most obvious difference I see is that the HDMI gives a brighter picture exposing the details of black portions. A little sharper picture too at 720p. Component colors feel more natural & has good saturation of colors.
I (& my wife) do not like the 1080i images as its too bright & washed out.
But like I said before, not night & day difference on a 32" screen (viewing distance 4m).
I like the setting best at 720p w/ HDMI color set at component.
I dont use a line conditioner in my bedroom setup so I seem to notice more grains? But not too sure. Will try to connect to a line conditioner if it will reduce grains, or maybe the DVD I demoed was grainy.
hi sir matz! pls do give reviews with n without the line conditioner. im also planning to get one if may noticeable difference talaga. tnx!
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@Kt
kumusta performance ng Pio DV 600 mo ;) I have four players that does upconverting Pio DV-600 1080p, Samsung DVD-HD845 1080i both through HDMI and Samsung HD 841 1080i through component and Toshiba SD 4980 1080i through HDMI. Ang favorite ko na gamitin is the Pio and the Samsung 841. Mas malinis ang PQ in my opinion.
Yung Samsung HD845 although maganda din ang output at 1080p pero mas crisp yung sa Pio 600.
Sold na nga pala my Toshiba SD 4980 and thinking of selling na din my Samsung HD845. Kasi so many DVD players so little time to use it ;)
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@Kt
kumusta performance ng Pio DV 600 mo ;) I have four players that does upconverting Pio DV-600, Samsung DVD-HD845 both 1080p through HDMI and Samsung HD 841 1080i through component and Toshiba SD 4980 1080i through HDMI. Ang favorite ko na gamitin is the Pio and the Samsung 841. Mas malinis ang PQ in my opinion.
Yung Samsung HD845 although maganda din ang output at 1080p pero mas crisp yung sa Pio 600.
Sold na nga pala my Toshiba SD 4980 and thinking of selling na din my Samsung HD845. Kasi so many DVD players so little time to use it ;)
wow! dahil sa experience mo parang gusto ko ng bilhin ito ah... ;)
sir matzter, nasubukan mo na ba sa pj mo ang dv600?
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@Kt
kumusta performance ng Pio DV 600 mo ;) I have four players that does upconverting Pio DV-600 1080p, Samsung DVD-HD845 1080i both through HDMI and Samsung HD 841 1080i through component and Toshiba SD 4980 1080i through HDMI. Ang favorite ko na gamitin is the Pio and the Samsung 841. Mas malinis ang PQ in my opinion.
Yung Samsung HD845 although maganda din ang output at 1080p pero mas crisp yung sa Pio 600.
Sold na nga pala my Toshiba SD 4980 and thinking of selling na din my Samsung HD845. Kasi so many DVD players so little time to use it ;)
vtec musta bro? havent watched a full movie with this yet puro pang testing palang! haha maybe this coming long wknd. kaso hassle minsan manood ng naka full zoom sa tv medyo nag iiba ichura noh? hehe
wow ang dami mo namang players! benta mo na yung iba then bili ka nalang HD DVD player! hehe
i was also able to borrow the Bada line conditioner kay sir sonny...matest nga....hehe ;D
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Can it read DTS wav files?
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vtec musta bro? havent watched a full movie with this yet puro pang testing palang! haha maybe this coming long wknd. kaso hassle minsan manood ng naka full zoom sa tv medyo nag iiba ichura noh? hehe
wow ang dami mo namang players! benta mo na yung iba then bili ka nalang HD DVD player! hehe
i was also able to borrow the Bada line conditioner kay sir sonny...matest nga....hehe ;D
yup i can relate, the Pio's zoom mode kasi takes out alot from the original frame, kaya at this time laging yung Samsung HD841 gamit ko ;D Parang yung 16 x 9 naging 4 x 3 lang ;) Yung players na post ko doesn't include the two which my son uses (Sony and another Pio with Karaoke function) he he he.
Pero if i have a 1.85 movie that I want to watch i make sure i use the Pio 600.
plan to buy a PS3 and go bluray next in line din yung Bada line conditioner ;) hopefully mga december after maka recover ng konti sa recent SARS attack ;D
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wow! dahil sa experience mo parang gusto ko ng bilhin ito ah... ;)
sir matzter, nasubukan mo na ba sa pj mo ang dv600?
Not yet, cuz I just got the HDMI cable recently. And it was so hard connecting it to my wall mounted LCD w/ wood panel cover (see HT gallery) that I dont think I will be disconnecting the HDMI cable soon ;D.
Anyway, I use an upconverting DVDp via component in my PJ, w/c we AB'ed to an award winning Denon HDMI DVDp, almost same lang PQ so I am content w/ it & not so excited to compare it w/ the Pio600 ... for the meantime :D.
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yup i can relate, the Pio's zoom mode kasi takes out alot from the original frame, kaya at this time laging yung Samsung HD841 gamit ko ;D Parang yung 16 x 9 naging 4 x 3 lang ;) Yung players na post ko doesn't include the two which my son uses (Sony and another Pio with Karaoke function) he he he.
Pero if i have a 1.85 movie that I want to watch i make sure i use the Pio 600.
plan to buy a PS3 and go bluray next in line din yung Bada line conditioner ;) hopefully mga december after maka recover ng konti sa recent SARS attack ;D
i havent tried using the zoom function of the pio 600. i always use the tvs zoom for now. yup 1.85 is really great watching on the tv! :o
nakow yang ps3 talaga ang gsto ko kaso ang tagal bumaba ng price! hehe :'(
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wow! dahil sa experience mo parang gusto ko ng bilhin ito ah... ;)
sir matzter, nasubukan mo na ba sa pj mo ang dv600?
i've been using the pio600 with my ae900 for a few days already. at first it's quite hard to get your color/contrast/brightness just right for your taste, but i have it gotten down pat almost so i am enjoying it now. i don't use full rgb coz the contrast is too much it looks more like compressed blacks in the darker scenes. i mostly use just plain RGB now. using the component color setting, contrast and black performance suffers a bit but i still prefer it over full rgb. maybe if you're using a plasma or lcd it might not be as objectionable as i was using it with my 29" crt previously and it's very watchable naman. still you lose some detail in the blacks to lower grays, a tradeoff for the punchy image you do get. what i'm most impressed with this player is the upconverting ability @720p though. another nice bonus is the ability to send 480i signal to the pj w/c i mostly use when watching 4:3 material. this way i can have the pj show it in justified mode.
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the salesman said that hdmi cable 1.3 version can give much better pq than the hdmi 1.1 version, is there really any difference between those two cables?? ???
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i have'nt tried the version one yet and went on to use the 1.3 (panasonic) right away.
however upon researching i found out that ver.1 only transfer data with a maximum bitrate of 4.9 Gbit/s vs 10.2 Gbit/s for the ver.1.3 parang sa internet mas malaki ang bandwidth mas mabilis at mas malinaw ang pasok ng data transfer.
Maximum video bandwidth (Gbps) ver.1 = 3.96 vs ver.1.3 = 8.16
Maximum audio bandwidth (Mbps) ver.1 = 36.86 vs ver.1.3 = 36.86 same
;D
Resolutions possible over single link HDMI at 24bits per pixel
ver.1 = 1920x1080p60
vs
ver.1.3 = 2560x1600p60 - i have'nt seen such thing though and dont know if there's a device capable of such yet but they mentioned that ver.1.3 is future proof.
im not really sure about the other stuff mentioned about HDMI cables but im just amazed of this technology and glad to be using one. ;D
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whats the different settings for the HDMI color like RGB, full, and component? what do u use? tnx
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i have'nt tried the version one yet and went on to use the 1.3 right away.
however upon researching i found out that ver.1 only transfer data with a maximum bitrate of 4.9 Gbit/s vs 10.2 Gbit/s for the ver.1.3 parang sa internet mas malaki ang bandwith mas mabilis at mas malinaw ang pasok ng data transfer.
Maximum video bandwidth (Gbps) ver.1 = 3.96 vs ver.1.3 = 8.16
Maximum audio bandwidth (Mbps) ver.1 = 36.86 vs ver.1.3 = 36.86 same
;D
Resolutions possible over single link HDMI at 24bits per pixel
ver.1 = 1920x1080p60
vs
ver.1.3 = 2560x1600p60 - i have'nt seen such thing though and dont know if there's a device capable of such yet but they mentioned that ver.1.3 is future proof.
im not really sure about the other stuff mentioned about HDMI cables but im just amazed of this technology and glad to be using one. ;D
in that case as you mentioned above the 1.3 version can give much better pq, thanks for the info bro juric!
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;D more on HDMI ver. 1.3 read more at
http://www.audioholics.com/education/display-formats-technology/audioholics-hdmi-1-3-q-a
higher resolution - provide over 450% the resolution of 720p HDTV, and over 225% of 1080p HDTV for greater detail and larger display sizes.
higher refresh rates - 90Hz refresh rate for faster refresh rates which create smoother motion and less blurring in motion sequences parang pag mas mataas ang video card ng PC mo.
deep color - displays can represent many times more shades of gray between black and white. At 30-bit pixel depth, a four times improvement would be the minimum, and the typical improvement would be eight times or more.
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so with the HDMI v1.3...does this go for the cable itself lang or should the source n output HDMIs be v1.3 as well?
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Sa mga DV-600AV-S owners, tanong ko lang po kung ano yung settings nyo dito. may mga kinalikot pb kyo sa settings nya? Im using it w/ 42pv70
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Sa mga DV-600AV-S owners, tanong ko lang po kung ano yung settings nyo dito. may mga kinalikot pb kyo sa settings nya? Im using it w/ 42pv70
hi bro! 600av and 50pv70 user here as well. i havent fixxed any other settings aside from the resolution. do u know whats the difference with the other HDMI color output such as RGB etc? tnx
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I have seen yesterday at the store the younger bro of this DV300 in black cost about $70.00. DV600 will be available only next but price still not known yet. It's good that I did not buy the DV696 that I been drooling at the store... :o ::)
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Got this player just this weekend from a fellow member at very reasonable price. I had to convince my wife though, and with the help of my 10 years old boy whom I also convinced, because I have 3 players already at home and this will be the 4th.
Compared this with my pio 676, hooked to the AX100 - quickly, I cannot decide which is better. I have yet to observe significant difference of the 600 in terms of PQ. Both players are good - they just have a slight variation in PQ such that the 676 has still to my eyes, better colors via component, the 600 however, has blacker blacks via HDMI; both in their default settings. Such a slight difference may be adjusted and appropriately compensated by toggling with the video settings and adjusting preferred color display of the players, one feature that I like with the pioneer players.
I haven’t fully gone through the various available settings of the 600, like the FULL RGB, or RGB setups or the different available levels of HDMI Resolution that may also possibly change my flat assessment on the 600 compared with the 676 in terms of PQ; component vs HDMI. One opinion I read indicate that the HDMI is better in terms of speed. This is a matter that I will have to see in coming days.
Having effectively brainwashed my boy that the HDMI of the 600 is best than the component of the 676, he questioned and cross-examined me on what I told him about HDMI vs component.
Nevertheless, having been able to view excellent images directly from my fat 32 USB flash drive, at least my wife appreciated and was a welcome relief for me.
I insisted on getting this because of the good reviews in various online forums. Incidentally most users are using LCD displays. I haven’t read yet a comprehensive performance review of this player on a pj setup. Maybe I still have to test all available adjustment options. If after all, my expectations are not meet, ill just have to sell this, of course with another price cut, and just save for an HD player.
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sir jerix goodluck on your tests and pls do update us on this ;D
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Bought the Pioneer DV 600 this afternoon.
I'll compare the performance versus a regular Samsung DVD player (HTiB).
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guys ano yung setting nya na downsampling? is this for dvds lang or pwede din for audio cds? tnx
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Sir, matanong ko lang kung this is "region free"? I already have the unit but I'm planning to buy a R1 DVD I'm just hesitant to buy it kasi baka di ko rin mapanood. I read from another thread that his R1 DVD did not play with his DV400. Anyone who already tried it with R1?
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ako po natry ko na. ewan ko lng kng nakalikot na sya ng shop bago ibenta sakin ::)
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Sirs, how high does this player upscale via component (or DV-400 in that matter)?
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ako po natry ko na. ewan ko lng kng nakalikot na sya ng shop bago ibenta sakin ::)
Brand new po ba bili nyo sa DV600? Thanks bro.
If there is still anyone who tried it I need your help on this. Eventhough I think na multi-region po ito I just want to make it sure bago ako bumili ng R1 DVD's. Thank you po.
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Sir, matanong ko lang kung this is "region free"? I already have the unit but I'm planning to buy a R1 DVD I'm just hesitant to buy it kasi baka di ko rin mapanood. I read from another thread that his R1 DVD did not play with his DV400. Anyone who already tried it with R1?
hi bro yes it is region free. i tried R1 n R3s n even p* copies ok naman
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Sir, matanong ko lang kung this is "region free"? I already have the unit but I'm planning to buy a R1 DVD I'm just hesitant to buy it kasi baka di ko rin mapanood. I read from another thread that his R1 DVD did not play with his DV400. Anyone who already tried it with R1?
Pioneer DVD players and other players are region free. there's a setting that the store is supplied by the dealer to fix this. R1 is NTSC which is our Zone, so all players sold in Pinas should be defaulted to this setting. I havemixed Zones of movies and my Philips DVD player plays them without any problem but the default zone is PAL R2. ;D :o ::)
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Yup, the DV600 is region free
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Pioneer DVD players and other players are region free. there's a setting that the store is supplied by the dealer to fix this. R1 is NTSC which is our Zone, so all players sold in Pinas should be defaulted to this setting. I havemixed Zones of movies and my Philips DVD player plays them without any problem but the default zone is PAL R2. ;D :o ::)
Bro -- R3 yata tayo... :)
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hi how much is this player and saan available 'to? kase puro dv300 lng meron eh.
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Bro -- R3 yata tayo... :)
Yes! you are correct. (my bad) we belong to asian NTSC, If we are buying Dvd platers, we should take along DVD's of all regions that we have to sample in the store... 8)
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i bought one already kanina sa trinoma. the sad part is hindi pala capable yung tv ko ng 1080p :( >:( kala ko pwede 1080p capable yung tv ko. sayang lang, sana yung dv696 na lang ang kinuha ko sa digital savers hub or dv400 na lang :( :(
pero parang ok na rin kase may sacd, dvd audio, divx ultra at maganda ang dac. yung na lang iniisip ko , pampalubag loob.
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i was also able to borrow the Bada line conditioner kay sir sonny...matest nga....hehe ;D
Sir kt na-test mo na ba nyo na ba yung Bada? I'm planning to buy one this coming month. I've heard a lot of good things about this LC.
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ygpm bro
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i bought one already kanina sa trinoma. the sad part is hindi pala capable yung tv ko ng 1080p :( >:( kala ko pwede 1080p capable yung tv ko. sayang lang, sana yung dv696 na lang ang kinuha ko sa digital savers hub or dv400 na lang :( :(
pero parang ok na rin kase may sacd, dvd audio, divx ultra at maganda ang dac. yung na lang iniisip ko , pampalubag loob.
Bro, can you PM me how much did you get it. Baka you want to sell at slightly lower price.
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i use the player to watch p*dvd's. materials which my previous philips 5500s has no trouble playing this one skips and pauses... or even sometimes will stop trying all together. :( if not for the audio and video performance, i will have traded this for a philips already. it's irritating when you're into the groove of the story and then the player will decide to just stop trying. mas mapapamahal ka pa tuloy kasi you will be forced to buy orig dvd's of the same material. the thing is, yung mga hard to play discs ko eh high bitrate naman... while sometimes yung mga store bought ones exhibit slight pixelations (at least not really too objectionable. kaya lang, knowing they're supposed to be better than bootleg ones... irritating pa rin).
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got my pioneer dv600 last week. i say its audio and picture quality is top notch.
i hooked it to my hitachi tx200 hometheater projector using 1080i resolution and there's a considerable difference in picture quality compared to my other dvd player.
another thing is that i got it at a bargain price.
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it is available at glorietta bpi madness for P6,790 0% for 6 months.
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it is available at glorietta bpi madness for P6,790 0% for 6 months.
uy, interesting.
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To DV600 owners, did you encounter any problem in playing dvd+r in multi-session (not yet finalised)? The player was able to play the divx files I burned for the 1st time, but not on the next burn. I checked the files via the menu and the files are not there or DV600 was not able to recognized them.
Using a PC and Pio DV696, I was able to play it.
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guys, can i tell the difference of the picture quality between a dvd played on a dv600 and a BLU ray film on a ps3 using a 32" bravia??
thanks.
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Yes, you can, the images displayed vai a bluray player is brighter,detailed and cleaner without any so called video noise/artifacts, unlike in an upscaled 1080i or 1080p DVD,you'll notice some softening and video noise on the background most especially on fast scenes.(Check out Narnia/ i Robot and Fifth Element).
Both can be appreciated even on a 32" LCD.(However, with animation like Ice Age, the difference is only noticeable if your'e looking for it) :D
If you'll have the time, AstroPlus at the Mall Of Asia usually has a Blu Ray disc being played on a Bravia every now and then, and they often use the 1080i(only)capable bravia.
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thanks for the input.
coz im a bit not sure whether to settle with DVDs played in dv600 (such as Transformers) or buy the HD release even though i will only be playing it on 32" bravia. ;D
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Yes, you can, the images displayed vai a bluray player is brighter,detailed and cleaner without any so called video noise/artifacts, unlike in an upscaled 1080i or 1080p DVD,you'll notice some softening and video noise on the background most especially on fast scenes.(Check out Narnia/ i Robot and Fifth Element).
Sir,
Which is better in upscaling, the dv600 or a blueray/HD player?
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guess it really depends on which unit's upscaler is better. you would have to compare the 2 units on how they handle upscaling.
but if you already have an hd dvd player...i would ditch my dvd player so i just have 1 player. or kung ayawmo malaspag agad..then use both.
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Sir,
Which is better in upscaling, the dv600 or a blueray/HD player?
Of course the Bluray/HDDVD ;)
It can handle 25gigs of data whereas a DVD player was only designed for 8.5gigs.
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is the 192/24khz audio DAC applicable only to its 5.1 output? will this DAC upgrade applicable to a separate receiver connected via coax? (the receiver's DAC will process the audio stream).
salamats
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Sir,
Which is better in upscaling, the dv600 or a blueray/HD player?
you also have to take into account that if you get an HD player abroad (as the local prices are still steep), it will be region locked to R1 for standard dvds.
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you also have to take into account that if you get an HD player abroad (as the local prices are still steep), it will be region locked to R1 for standard dvds.
yun lang problema sa hddvd naka locked sa sddvd,kaya upscale lng mga r1 ???
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yun ang big difference. Since imported HD DVD players can only play R1s. If you have lots of R3s, then might as well settle for a DVD player with upscaling features.
Now, if someone knows how to unlock those imported HD DVD players so it can play all region, then all the better. You ge the best of both worlds ika nga. hehehe :D
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Of course the Bluray/HDDVD ;)
It can handle 25gigs of data whereas a DVD player was only designed for 8.5gigs.
Sir,
Sorry for the confusion, but I meant using the same standard DVD disc for both players, which player would display a better PQ due to upscaling? I think your answer uses BD/HD DVD disc for BD/HD players. ;D
My main point here is, since I have lots of standard DVD Discs and want to buy a HD TV, should I buy an upscaler DVD player now? I'm still hoping High-Def DVD will standardize into a unified format, from Blueray/HD. :D
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I think blue-ray/HD-DVDs will of course display better PQ than SD-DVDs when loaded into an HD-DVD player.
Yung standard DVD e inuupscale pa, while I think the blue-ray/HD-DVD is already 720p/1080p at native resolution (no upscaling required).
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Sir,
Sorry for the confusion, but I meant using the same standard DVD disc for both players, which player would display a better PQ due to upscaling? I think your answer uses BD/HD DVD disc for BD/HD players. ;D
My main point here is, since I have lots of standard DVD Discs and want to buy a HD TV, should I buy an upscaler DVD player now? I'm still hoping High-Def DVD will standardize into a unified format, from Blueray/HD. :D
I think you know the answer to your question. :-X
BTW, HDDVD and Blu Ray players are in the 30K to 65K range.
The cheapest you can get is the Sony PS3 which retails for 20K to 35K.
A Pioneer 1080p capable DVD player costs less than 7K. :P
And to think that you still need to buy your HDTV. ;D
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I think you know the answer to your question. :-X
BTW, HDDVD and Blu Ray players are in the 30K to 65K range.
The cheapest you can get is the Sony PS3 which retails for 20K to 35K.
A Pioneer 1080p capable DVD player costs less than 7K. :P
And to think that you still need to buy your HDTV. ;D
Ang gastos!!! :D :D
@IceTea
If the difference of an upscaled SD-DVD would be a matter of night and day, then go for it. However, to some, especially me....it's not.
Wait na lang for the other manufacturers, I believe China is in the process of making their own HD-DVD.
But if you have the budget, the heck! get it now and indulge yourself to a true-HD. ;)
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It all comes to how deep you pocket is.. (For now.. ;))
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I think you know the answer to your question. :-X
Sir,
Don't get me wrong, but honestly, I don't. I'm just assuming that they should be the same, because the source is the same, but I could be wrong. I agree specific brand/model could make a difference, but I'm looking for a general answer/opinion. Enlightenment is bliss. ;D
In addition, I also agree, if only I could afford such HDDVD/BluRay players, I would get both format. Unfortunately, upscaling is the most likely route for me. :D
Hopefully, they make those China generic HD-players which handles both format. ;)
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If you have xbox360, and xbox addon is 180$. it includes kingkong hddvd + remote, free heroes season 1, mail-in 5 hddvd. This is a good option if you have an xbox and a friend or relative in the us. PS3 will release a 40gb version and will more likely be <20k.
Right now Im using pio dv600 and im happy w/ it. I watch my downloaded tv series their and the pq is really good.
But make sure you already have an hdtv ;D
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To owners of Pioneer DV600AV-s
I just want to know the following settings:
My player is capable of the following set-up. However, I havent seen any difference, what is your suggestion?
- 1080i (interlace)
- 1080p (progressive)
Video out:
- Full RGB
- RGB
- I forgot the other one hehehe
One thing more:
When playing DVD-A (multi) or SACD (multi) the output of 0.1 (Subwoofer) is too low even the speaker setting on the home menu is in the maximum? (Analog)
TIA
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One thing more:
When playing DVD-A (multi) or SACD (multi) the output of 0.1 (Subwoofer) is too low even the speaker setting on the home menu is in the maximum? (Analog)
TIA
sir what is your audio set up?
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Here's a little comparison between the Pio DV600 (upconverted to 720p) and a DLed movie at 720p (played sa laptop and VGA to the LCD).
Pio600 - Any Given Sunday (upconverted to 720p)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jeyps11_c/IMG_0080.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jeyps11_c/IMG_0077.jpg)
Laptop playing a 720p DLed movie (MI:3)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jeyps11_c/IMG_0071.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jeyps11_c/IMG_0067.jpg)
Can you tell the difference? Cause I can't from the pics ???
But when I was watching it, the DLed 720p movie was leaps and bounds better than an upconverted movie.
Even if my display was only 32" I notice a difference in terms of how crisp the movie is -- DLed movie was almost similar to the samples in AV shops.
I will be trying out a CGI movie (Finding Nemo) that is 720p and see if it better compared to a regular DVD upconverted to 720p.
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Of course the Bluray/HDDVD ;)
It can handle 25gigs of data whereas a DVD player was only designed for 8.5gigs.
IMHO Blue ray hands down. I bought me a DV600 yesterday in order to get my DVD's at least close to the PQ of HD discs and was very disappointed. I have a full HD panel (37" Philips Pixel Plus 3 HD Model: 37PFL7422) and I hooked it up via HDMI to the DV600. Tested 'Transformers' and it came out with a lot of artifacts and fringing on the edges. It appeared over-enhanced with the visual ranging from a bit grainy to really pixelized.
I then hooked-up my old / ordinary Philips HTIB (via component cables only) and it came out a lot smoother and with a better PQ registration vs. the DV600 (thus, player and not the panel was the issue then). Was baffled to tell you honestly, so I took a good hour or two tweaking the picture settings (both on the panel and the DV600 player) to get the right image but everything was in vain. I also tried the various HD settings from 480 to 1080i to 1080p and it had the same symptoms. I also tried a number of discs from R3s to R1 and the 'artifacts' phenomenon was likewise present in all of them. SOS :-[
Well as of this writing am still trying out various settings but I would like to ask the others if they have experienced this type of erratic behavior on their full HD panels when using the DV600. Would appreciate any suggestions / comments.
Many thanks,
M1
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bump on this, prob not yet resolved. :-\ any suggestions from other 600AV users?
many thanks,
M1
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just a suggestion, how about checking your hdmi cable if its loose or by borrowing another cable from a friend with no set up prob.
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meron na bang nakasubok ang usb port?
i tried it during the weekend, it work with my creative muvo 512mb with fat32 format
but when i used a 6gb usb ide external hd, it does not work, with fat32 formatting system too.
may limitation kaya yun kaya nyang i-read?
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just a suggestion, how about checking your hdmi cable if its loose or by borrowing another cable from a friend with no set up prob.
copy that. thanks bud will try out that option. many thanks ;)
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meron na bang nakasubok ang usb port?
i tried it during the weekend, it work with my creative muvo 512mb with fat32 format
but when i used a 6gb usb ide external hd, it does not work, with fat32 formatting system too.
may limitation kaya yun kaya nyang i-read?
In my case... haven't tried the USB (given my issue with the screen resolution)- try ko rin later. ???
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meron na bang nakasubok ang usb port?
i tried it during the weekend, it work with my creative muvo 512mb with fat32 format
but when i used a 6gb usb ide external hd, it does not work, with fat32 formatting system too.
may limitation kaya yun kaya nyang i-read?
hi bro! im using the usb with my 120gb hd with fat32 n ok naman sya. baka sa format ng file di nya ma read? ang reklamo ko lang din dun is yung u have to choose pa on what formats to read upon initialization nya like wmvs or mp3s and jpegs
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Got my Pioneer 600AV-S as a bday gift from my sister, very good video/audio compared to my previous player (Philips 727K). Got it at SM appliance @ 6,500; 6 mos. 0% interest
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hi bro! im using the usb with my 120gb hd with fat32 n ok naman sya. baka sa format ng file di nya ma read? ang reklamo ko lang din dun is yung u have to choose pa on what formats to read upon initialization nya like wmvs or mp3s and jpegs
bro, can the system play DIVx from the usb port? or just MP3s and JPEGs lang?
thanks.
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bro, can the system play DIVx from the usb port? or just MP3s and JPEGs lang?
thanks.
bro yup pwde din movies in divx format
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hi bro! im using the usb with my 120gb hd with fat32 n ok naman sya. baka sa format ng file di nya ma read? ang reklamo ko lang din dun is yung u have to choose pa on what formats to read upon initialization nya like wmvs or mp3s and jpegs
Sir KT pwede po ba malaman kung anong enclosure and hd ang gamit nyo and kung san nyo nabili? Sa tingin ko kasi removable media drives lang ang supported nya. Accdg to google, ang external hd ay may RMB(Removable media bit) na nagsasabi kung ang device ay local drive or removable drive. At naka-set ito thru hardware so hindi pwedeng baguhin yung RMB. Makikita mo sya kpg sinaksak mo sa PC, sa properties under volumes. Yung type either local/basic or removable
So far eto palang na-try ko:
USB flash drive 2gb Fat format - no prob <-removable media
Ipod video 60gb fat32 format - no prob <-removable media
2 external 2.5 disk(tried both Fat and Fat32 format) - can't be detected <-local/basic
Sa ngayon, naghahanap parin ako ng external hd na kayang isupport ng dv-600
TIA
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Sir KT pwede po ba malaman kung anong enclosure and hd ang gamit nyo and kung san nyo nabili? Sa tingin ko kasi removable media drives lang ang supported nya. Accdg to google, ang external hd ay may RMB(Removable media bit) na nagsasabi kung ang device ay local drive or removable drive. At naka-set ito thru hardware so hindi pwedeng baguhin yung RMB. Makikita mo sya kpg sinaksak mo sa PC, sa properties under volumes. Yung type either local/basic or removable
So far eto palang na-try ko:
USB flash drive 2gb Fat format - no prob <-removable media
Ipod video 60gb fat32 format - no prob <-removable media
2 external 2.5 disk(tried both Fat and Fat32 format) - can't be detected <-local/basic
Sa ngayon, naghahanap parin ako ng external hd na kayang isupport ng dv-600
TIA
hi bro trig! im using the western digital hd and it comes complete with case na eh
here's the pic n link:
(http://www.wdc.com/global/images/products/frnt/wdfPassport_Portable_2.jpg)
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=317
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Sir KT, kapag po ba sa pc, ano yung disk type nya? tama ba hinala ko na Removable HD lang supported nya?
San nyo po nabili yung WD passport 120gb nyo and how much?
Thanks
;D
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Pag may mga folders pa sa HD hindi na mababasa ng DV600?
I tried using the USB for the first time yesterday -- kaso may nga folders yung HDD ko.
Lumabas lang sa display ng DV600 is USB pero walang picture display.
What should I see after I connect the HD and how will I choose the movie to watch kung madami sila.
Pics will help...
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trig removable storage pag detect sa kanya. im not too sure bat di madetect yung sayo. wala ba ibang naka try dto? sa mga computer stores bro madami naman yung WD n around 5+ yung sa 120G
jeyps sakin puro folders din n nababasa naman nya lahat. after mo kabit minsan matagal sya mag read eh. then lalabas yung option what files to read: divx/movies OR mp3s/jpeg
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On sale yata sa Western-Greenhills and Pioneer. SDaw the DV600 at 3.8k, DV500K at 3.5K. One noob question, how much better is a Pioneer player than a Generic player, assuming ordinary DVDs lang?
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wow ang mura naman nyan 3.8k good buy na yan!
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huh sbrang mura nga nyan...
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confirmed ba to? sino na nakabili mga sirs??? :D :D :D
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sir what is your audio set up?
For this set-up, I'm using my Marantz Receiver (6300) and all the way Klipsch Reference speakers for the 5.1 set-up except for the Sorround Center. I'm using Velodyne CHT-10 sub. My Monitor is Samsung LCD.
Napansin ko lang parang ang hina ng Sub output. However, when using the 2channel, OK naman ang Sub subra lakas???
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On sale yata sa Western-Greenhills and Pioneer. SDaw the DV600 at 3.8k, DV500K at 3.5K. One noob question, how much better is a Pioneer player than a Generic player, assuming ordinary DVDs lang?
Someone please confirm this? Baka naman demo unit yan.
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trig removable storage pag detect sa kanya. im not too sure bat di madetect yung sayo. wala ba ibang naka try dto? sa mga computer stores bro madami naman yung WD n around 5+ yung sa 120G
jeyps sakin puro folders din n nababasa naman nya lahat. after mo kabit minsan matagal sya mag read eh. then lalabas yung option what files to read: divx/movies OR mp3s/jpeg
WD passport 160gb 5k sa greenhills. kaya lang ngdadalawang isip pa ako bumili, may nabasa kc ako sa avsforum na may WD passport sya hindi daw gumagana sa dv600 nya. Isa plng ata yung natest nila na gumagana, freecom yung brand
Meron din isang technician sa GH, may 80gb WD passport sya and nung chineck ko, Local disk yung disk type nya tapos NTFS file format. haay... sa weekend cguro try ko yung self-powered enclosure ko.
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WD passport 160gb 5k sa greenhills. kaya lang ngdadalawang isip pa ako bumili, may nabasa kc ako sa avsforum na may WD passport sya hindi daw gumagana sa dv600 nya. Isa plng ata yung natest nila na gumagana, freecom yung brand
Meron din isang technician sa GH, may 80gb WD passport sya and nung chineck ko, Local disk yung disk type nya tapos NTFS file format. haay... sa weekend cguro try ko yung self-powered enclosure ko.
bro im using the WD passport 120Gb n it works sa dv600 ko. i downloaded the FAT32 formatter sa WD site mismo n ok na sya ;D
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Mga sir panggulong tanong po lang. Sino po ba nakakaalam kung saan po ako makakabili ng SACD? Kasi I want to test it with my Pio 600.
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Mga sir panggulong tanong po lang. Sino po ba nakakaalam kung saan po ako makakabili ng SACD? Kasi I want to test it with my Pio 600.
Here's the link:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=52899.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=52899.0)
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bro yup pwde din movies in divx format
mga bros, can i do this also sa Pio DV-400? any experience?
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help mga pros esp kay Nemesis (aka Jeff from Theaterworks)! can i use the usb port for playing divx movies from hard drives? can it be upscaled to 1080p? salamat! :D
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standard res movies will play fine. high res materials won't play though.
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any tips on how to use a external hard drive to play divx movies? greatly appreciateD! ;D
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One thing more:
When playing DVD-A (multi) or SACD (multi) the output of 0.1 (Subwoofer) is too low even the speaker setting on the home menu is in the maximum? (Analog)
TIA
Sir naayos nyo na po ba problema nyo dito? I'm planning to buy DVD-Audio or SACD.
Thank you po.
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Here's the link:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=52899.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=52899.0)
Thank you for the info sir.
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Success! I can now view movies using the USB slot! download na ng mga HD movies! yahoo yahoo! ;D
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Success! I can now view movies using the USB slot! download na ng mga HD movies! yahoo yahoo! ;D
bro, simpleng plug and play lang ba iyan? or meron pang settings na kailangan palitan? thanks.
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just make sure that your hard drive is Fat32 format and your videos are in divx format (.avi). then it's just plug and play and puyatan! :D
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thanks bro.
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Sir tanong ko lang po kung anong brand yung ginamit nyo na external HD and ilang gb. yung sakin kc hindi maread kahit fat32 format sya.
tnx
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it's a maxtor 200g HD. better check your enclosure or the connections. usually dun ang error. it wont work if its connected to a desktop- it should be a removable disk.
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I just bought a Pioneer DV-600AV-S last Sunday and enjoyed the experience of watching movies in Div-X format using my USB flash drive. The picture quality was very good. However, when i played my DVD-audio (Homecoming album by America), there was no audio coming out of the speakers although audio setting was "DVD-Audio" - but sound came out from the speakers when I changed it to "DVD-Video." Has anybody among you guys experienced this?
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I just bought a Pioneer DV-600AV-S last Sunday and enjoyed the experience of watching movies in Div-X format using my USB flash drive. The picture quality was very good. However, when i played my DVD-audio (Homecoming album by America), there was no audio coming out of the speakers although audio setting was "DVD-Audio" - but sound came out from the speakers when I changed it to "DVD-Video." Has anybody among you guys experienced this?
how much mo nabili? thanks!
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hi bro ert,
I bought it from SM Applicance Center at Php6,790 (pwedeng installment for 6 months at 0%).
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I brought this player last week.. sobrang sulit nia... naka Divx Ultra pa! plus my USB! kya ok tlga... I brought it from western for P6550. its original price is P6750, my discount cla kpag cash un payment mo. Overall, I would recommend this player for all HT addicts. ;D ;D ;D
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just a suggestion, how about checking your hdmi cable if its loose or by borrowing another cable from a friend with no set up prob.
may significant difference ba if you are using generic hdmi(cdr king for 200 only) compare to branded hdmi cable?
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^I looked this up (CNET) and also asked some AV shops...they say na pag short lang naman yung cable na gagamitin mo (1.5 meter or less) wala masyado difference between branded and generic. The difference is when you start using longer cables, medyo meron daw nawawala na quality along the way.
So I guess for short cables you can go to CD-R King...but for long ones better go to your suking AV shop.
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Additional Information:
Any USB flash drive can accessed by these players. Picture quality depends on the quality of the file. Most of TV series I downloaded are of good quality. Most are comparable to DVD video resolution. And yes, all videos coming out of the HDMI port are being upscaled to 720P/1080i/p. For external hard drives to be accessed, most of these devices need to be powered, meaning it has to have a separate power cord, plugged in a separate power source (AC outlet) and of course, in FAT32 type partition.
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another tip: make sure your divx files are less than 1GB in size. the player usually wont play these files. if your file more than 1GB, just split them into small files with proper indexing.
:)
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I bought Pioneer DV-600AV-S last Friday to upgrade from Pioneer DV-393AV-S. I paired this new player with my recently bought Panasonic 42PV70 plasma. I experimented with various video setting in the DV-600 player and here are my impressions:
1. I got the best image quality if player is set to 720P via HDMI and HDMI color is set to full RGB.
2. The 1080P via HDMI setting yields an "over-processed" video quality. This may be due to multiple video conversion; the player upconverts to 1080P, then the plasma tv downconverts to 720P to meet its 720P native resolution.
3. Any progressive settings seems to have better image quality than the interlace settings.
The player's video settings were adjusted to "0" or default, but the BNR (Block Noise Reduction) was set to 'Yes". Video setting were done on the display only. This is to minimize over processing of the video image.
For reference by users of Pana 42PV70, here are my display's video settings:
a. Mode: Cinema
b. Contrast: 70
c. Brightness: 64
d. Color: 38
e. Sharpness: 70
f. Color Temp: Cool
g. All other setting are left untouched in default.
For the plasma calibration, I used Sound and Video Essentials (by Ovation) set-up DVD. I used Finding Nemo, Pearl Harbor, and the DTS Demo Disc 6 and 8 to validate the calibration. I did not follow the 100 (or 200) hours break-in period for plasma because this 10th generation plasma panel does not need break-in period anymore.
I had a chance to compare 480P via component (using my old DV-393 player) vs 480P via HDMI (using this new DV-600 player). I say that there is a very distinct video image improvement via HDMI, more so if its 720P via HDMI! The 720P HDMI produced video with vibrant colors, very deep blacks and sharp, well focused images. Its almost HD-quality already!
Overall, I may conclude that the Pio DV-600 and Pana 42PV70 is a perfect tandem, truly bang for the buck! For now, I'll settle for this tandem while waiting for the winner in the on-going HD format war...
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I bought Pioneer DV-600AV-S last Friday to upgrade from Pioneer DV-393AV-S. I paired this new player with my recently bought Panasonic 42PV70 plasma. I experimented with various video setting in the DV-600 player and here are my impressions:
1. I got the best image quality if player is set to 720P via HDMI and HDMI color is set to full RGB.
2. The 1080P via HDMI setting yields an "over-processed" video quality. This may be due to multiple video conversion; the player upconverts to 1080P, then the plasma tv downconverts to 720P to meet its 720P native resolution.
3. Any progressive settings seems to have better image quality than the interlace settings.
The player's video settings were adjusted to "0" or default, but the BNR (Block Noise Reduction) was set to 'Yes". Video setting were done on the display only. This is to minimize over processing of the video image.
For reference by users of Pana 42PV70, here are my display's video settings:
a. Mode: Cinema
b. Contrast: 70
c. Brightness: 64
d. Color: 38
e. Sharpness: 70
f. Color Temp: Cool
g. All other setting are left untouched in default.
For the plasma calibration, I used Sound and Video Essentials (by Ovation) set-up DVD. I used Finding Nemo, Pearl Harbor, and the DTS Demo Disc 6 and 8 to validate the calibration. I did not follow the 100 (or 200) hours break-in period for plasma because this 10th generation plasma panel does not need break-in period anymore.
I had a chance to compare 480P via component (using my old DV-393 player) vs 480P via HDMI (using this new DV-600 player). I say that there is a very distinct video image improvement via HDMI, more so if its 720P via HDMI! The 720P HDMI produced video with vibrant colors, very deep blacks and sharp, well focused images. Its almost HD-quality already!
Overall, I may conclude that the Pio DV-600 and Pana 42PV70 is a perfect tandem, truly bang for the buck! For now, I'll settle for this tandem while waiting for the winner in the on-going HD format war...
Sir, how about sa purely audio lang. What's your impression?
I know you use it for HT. But just want to know how it performs sa audio.
Thanks
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Ok bro, used it also in pure audio. My observation in direct comparison with my old DV-393: the DV-600 sounded better... as long as I use analog audio connection. The sound seems "mas makapal", mas feel ko ang presence nung singer at instruments (upps, 'can't properly describe in words...). If via digital connection, audio is same with DV-393. I wish I can try also the SACD and DVD audio, unfortunately I have no such type of CDs. I think DV-600 has a better audio DAC vs DV-393 hence the latter sounds better. The DV-600 is engineered to handle SACD and DVD audio, maybe it also contributes to its improved audio performance.
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Ok bro, used it also in pure audio. My observation in direct comparison with my old DV-393: the DV-600 sounded better... as long as I use analog audio connection. The sound seems "mas makapal", mas feel ko ang presence nung singer at instruments (upps, 'can't properly describe in words...). If via digital connection, audio is same with DV-393. I wish I can try also the SACD and DVD audio, unfortunately I have no such type of CDs. I think DV-600 has a better audio DAC vs DV-393 hence the latter sounds better. The DV-600 is engineered to handle SACD and DVD audio, maybe it also contributes to its improved audio performance.
Sir, thanks for the feedback.
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i sometimes experience sudden pauses and stops on my downloaded avi's when played on a usb stick, and sometimes the lip synch gets out of timing.. any of you experience these problems? or maybe it is just me since i mainly use my pio dv-600 for pi***ed copies in the likes of downloaded avi videos.
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^I also experienced the delayed lip synch with my downloaded avi's played using a USB flashdrive. Can this be due to the downloaded file not already in synch? I have also experienced this before with my old player playing burned downloaded avi.
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but in my old nextbase player, i had no problem with delayed lip synch of all the various types of avi's that i throw at its usb port using usb stick...
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boybi,xxadonisxx, I don't experience this on my Pio 600 player. My tip is that when you compile your divx on DVD-R, burn the divx vids using 4X only and not the maximum write speed. Enjoy! :)
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@grimlock
yes i only burn at 4x speeds particulary at ps2 games... but i use dvd+r disks since my compilations are more on data. the synch problem maybe because of a particular video which was encoded at a way which is not compatible with the pio 600's playback speed.
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boybi,xxadonisxx, I don't experience this on my Pio 600 player. My tip is that when you compile your divx on DVD-R, burn the divx vids using 4X only and not the maximum write speed. Enjoy! :)
Hmm, maybe. I always burn at max speed ;D
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Does PIO 600 play SACD by streaming in pure DSD rather than converting DSD to PCM?
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bros ano yung settings nyo sa dv600 nyo sa audio n other output settings dun? TIA
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^I also experienced the delayed lip synch with my downloaded avi's played using a USB flashdrive. Can this be due to the downloaded file not already in synch? I have also experienced this before with my old player playing burned downloaded avi.
It could be your flashdrive too. Not all flashdrive have the same speed throughput. Kinda like, browsing the net via dial-up, your web page displays part by part.
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i bought this player early this week and it's just the past 2 day i had time to play around with it. i have a question to the owners who had tested it much more extensively. i'll be using this player mostly for divx. i tried playing divx, avi, and wmv files. no problem. however, i noticed it doesn't support MP4. i also don't think it supports MPEG.
does anybody have a list of the file format it supports and doesn't? also, what can i use to convert to different file format without loss of quality? tia.
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....does anybody have a list of the file format it supports and doesn't? also, what can i use to convert to different file format without loss of quality? tia.
CD-R/-RW compatibility
• Compatible formats: CD-Audio, Video CD/ Super VCD, ISO 9660 CD-ROM containing MP3, WMA, MPEG-4 AAC,
JPEG or DivX video/WMV files. ISO 9660 Level 1 or 2 compliant.
• CD physical format: Mode1, Mode2 XA Form1. Romeo and Joliet file systems are both compatible with this player.
• Multi-session playback: No
• Unfinalized disc playback: No
• File structure (may differ): Up to 299 folders on a disc; up to 648 folders and files (combined) within each folder
DVD+R/DVD+RW compatibility
Only DVD+R/DVD+RW discs recorded in ‘Video Mode (DVD Video Mode)’ which have been finalized, can be played back. However, some editing made during the recording may not be played back accurately.
DVD-R/-RW compatibility
• Compatible formats: DVD-Video, Video Recording (VR). Edit points may not play exactly as edited; screen may go momentarily blank at edited points.
• Unfinalized playback: No
• MP3/WMA/MPEG-4 AAC/JPEG or DivX video/WMV file playback on DVD-R/-RW: No
Compressed audio compatibility
• Compatible formats: MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3 (MP3), Windows Media Audio (WMA), MPEG-4 AAC
• Sampling rates: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz
• Bit-rates: Any (128 kbps or higher recommended)
• VBR (variable bit rate) MP3/WMA/MPEG-4
• AAC playback: No
• WMA lossless encoding compatible: No
• DRM (Digital Rights Management) compatible: No (DRM-protected audio files will not play in this player)
• File extensions: .mp3, .wma, .m4a (these must be used for the player to recognize MP3, WMA and MPEG-4 AAC files – do not use for other file types)
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:( can't play any divx and HD movies using USB. i have'nt tried burning it sa CD/DVD. anyway, na-try nyo na ba to? if yes, then baka pwede makahingi ng sample movie, pref HighDef movies, para lang ma-test ko kung working. or download link sa mga sample clips. lahat ng na-download ko, so far wala pang playable e. thanks
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:( can't play any divx and HD movies using USB. i have'nt tried burning it sa CD/DVD. anyway, na-try nyo na ba to? if yes, then baka pwede makahingi ng sample movie, pref HighDef movies, para lang ma-test ko kung working. or download link sa mga sample clips. lahat ng na-download ko, so far wala pang playable e. thanks
Hindi supported yng divx-HD bro. May limit sya sa size nung resolution
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oh-oh.. ok hehe. thanks
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Does PIO 600 play SACD by streaming in pure DSD rather than converting DSD to PCM?
Nobody's answered this yet. Am also interested to know.
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:( can't play any divx and HD movies using USB. i have'nt tried burning it sa CD/DVD. anyway, na-try nyo na ba to? if yes, then baka pwede makahingi ng sample movie, pref HighDef movies, para lang ma-test ko kung working. or download link sa mga sample clips. lahat ng na-download ko, so far wala pang playable e. thanks
I'm watching downloaded TV series from torrents using USB.
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Ok bro, used it also in pure audio. My observation in direct comparison with my old DV-393: the DV-600 sounded better... as long as I use analog audio connection. The sound seems "mas makapal", mas feel ko ang presence nung singer at instruments (upps, 'can't properly describe in words...). If via digital connection, audio is same with DV-393. I wish I can try also the SACD and DVD audio, unfortunately I have no such type of CDs. I think DV-600 has a better audio DAC vs DV-393 hence the latter sounds better. The DV-600 is engineered to handle SACD and DVD audio, maybe it also contributes to its improved audio performance.
In my observation, this player is not good for playing with multi-channel DVD-A or SACD. 2 channel high resolution set-up is fine for DVD-A and superb for SACD playback compared to DVD-A.
1080p video quality is worth for the price
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Finally, I was able to play my divx/avi file from my 320GB HDD with 3.5" Philips SATA enclosure through USB. ;)
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Hi Guys, ;D
I just read this topic from the first post to the last. Certainly there are alot of points to be considered. Here's my dilemma...I have a Sammy R81 and an ordinary Philips DVD player, which is connected by a Belkin component video cable. The result is superb PQ. Both are connected to a BADA LC may I add. So far so good right? Now, my question is, if I were to upgrade to an upscaling DVD player, which player would fit my Sammy R81? Also, will there be any improvements whatsoever in terms of PQ if I upgrade? ???
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Hi Guys, ;D
I just read this topic from the first post to the last. Certainly there are alot of points to be considered. Here's my dilemma...I have a Sammy R81 and an ordinary Philips DVD player, which is connected by a Belkin component video cable. The result is superb PQ. Both are connected to a BADA LC may I add. So far so good right? Now, my question is, if I were to upgrade to an upscaling DVD player, which player would fit my Sammy R81? Also, will there be any improvements whatsoever in terms of PQ if I upgrade? ???
Just a quick response - YES, with a few conditions which has to be satisfied. First am assuming your R81 has HDMI inputs so the DVD upscaler being discussed in this thread would be relevant. The Pio 600AV can upscale up to 1080p provided your TV can handle it. Am not quite sure if the R81 if Full HD or just HD Ready, if it's the former then you can go the full distance and get your SD DVDs upscaled to 1080p resolution. You have to switch from components to HDMI naturally to experience this 'enhancement.'
Coming from a regular Philips DVD player like you mentioned and connected via components, switching to Pio 600AV will definitely have PQ improvements. You're quite possibly jumping from 720x480 res to full HD quality of 1920x1080 - for sure there would be a noticeable diff. ;)
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Just a quick response - YES, with a few conditions which has to be satisfied. First am assuming your R81 has HDMI inputs so the DVD upscaler being discussed in this thread would be relevant. The Pio 600AV can upscale up to 1080p provided your TV can handle it. Am not quite sure if the R81 if Full HD or just HD Ready, if it's the former then you can go the full distance and get your SD DVDs upscaled to 1080p resolution. You have to switch from components to HDMI naturally to experience this 'enhancement.'
Coming from a regular Philips DVD player like you mentioned and connected via components, switching to Pio 600AV will definitely have PQ improvements. You're quite possibly jumping from 720x480 res to full HD quality of 1920x1080 - for sure there would be a noticeable diff. ;)
R81 can only handle 720p and 1080i. When movie plus mode of r81 is on at 720p, the effect is similar to pixel plus of philips tv but there are sum jitters on thin vertical object on screen,ie, poles, tree trunks etc. Better set the pio to 720p. I tried also 1080i but the pq of 720p with movie plus mode is much better. Tweak the color settings of both sammy and pio to your likeness. Here's a link to guide you http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513376 (http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513376) . Decreasing the sharpness of the sammy also improves the pq.
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R81 can only handle 720p and 1080i. When movie plus mode of r81 is on at 720p, the effect is similar to pixel plus of philips tv but there are sum jitters on thin vertical object on screen,ie, poles, tree trunks etc. Better set the pio to 720p. I tried also 1080i but the pq of 720p with movie plus mode is much better. Tweak the color settings of both sammy and pio to your likeness. Here's a link to guide you http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513376 (http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513376) . Decreasing the sharpness of the sammy also improves the pq.
thanks for the R81 confirmation - so it's only HD-ready. And your answer to his question...
"will there be any improvements whatsoever in terms of PQ if I upgrade?" YES as well? Just to help him decide... ;)
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thanks for the R81 confirmation - so it's only HD-ready. And your answer to his question...
"will there be any improvements whatsoever in terms of PQ if I upgrade?" YES as well? Just to help him decide... ;)
Hi Sirs Marl_1 and Nibblerizer! :)
Thanks so much for helping me on my query. Now that I know there will be improvements in PQ, I am going to consider upgrading to a Pioneer DV-600AV-S. I just wanted to make sure that there is going to be a significant improvement. I didn't want to invest on this player and realize that I will be getting the same PQ as my current player.
Again thanks for your opinions on the matter. ;)
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happy new year pipol of pinoydvd..tanong ko lang kung ano yong active subwoofer na pioneer din ang brand para sa dv-600 thnx and more power
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Happy New Year din sa inyong lahat mga PDVD member. ;D May tanong lang po ako kasi hindi ko alam kung normal lang po yung nangyayari sa DV600 ko. May 2 pong HDMI slots yung LCD, kapag 2 HDMI cable yung nakakabit (1 para sa DV600 (HDMI 1) at 1 para sa XBox (HDMI 2)) tapos nag-play ako ng DVD walang lumalabas na pic at nagbi-blink yung red LED sa harapan ng DVD player. Tapos kapag tinanggal ko yung 1 HDMI na para sa XBOX at binuksan ko uli yung DV600 at yung TV lumalabas na yung pic. Ganun po talaga yun? ::)
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^ actually hindi dapat... you can switch dapat from hdmi1 and hdmi2 source.
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I bought DV 400 for HDMI and upscaling capability and i let my receiver do the magic for the audio (through digital audio out - coax). Pareho lang ba ang upscaling capability of DV 400 and DV 600?
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The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!
I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).
What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.
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^ actually hindi dapat... you can switch dapat from hdmi1 and hdmi2 source.
sSo what do you think is the problem? Is it with my LCD?
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^ try another hdmi source instead of the xbox (ie. another dvd player with hdmi or a ps3)
if the problem persists then you probably should ask the manufacturer of your lcd... oh question nga pala, this happens even if your xbox is turned off?
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is it worth buying this player to pair up with a panasonic 32"?..san po ang best price (preferably card transaction)? thanks. :)
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is it worth buying this player to pair up with a panasonic 32"?..san po ang best price (preferably card transaction)? thanks. :)
If you are after the video upconversion, it has been discussed & confirmed many times in this forum that the improvement is not a big deal for 32" screens.
But if you are after the audio. Its a good buy! As I posted above, even the 5.1 outs are quite impressive (combined w/ a powerful amp of course).
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^ try another hdmi source instead of the xbox (ie. another dvd player with hdmi or a ps3)
if the problem persists then you probably should ask the manufacturer of your lcd... oh question nga pala, this happens even if your xbox is turned off?
I haven't check it yet. I'll keep you updated sir.
Thanks. :)
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The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!
I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).
What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.
sir matt u used a 5ch int amp po ba or power amp? tnx
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got my pio dv 600 today and im very satisfied with it. tested a couple of dvd and divx movies. havent tried attatching my usb hard drive yet. will try it later :)
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sir pwede ba tong upscaler na to sa component cable lang? upto what scale kaya nito? kasi un tv namin hdtv na pero wlang hdmi ehh :D hangnag 1080i lang sya ehh (tried on my xbox360). and sir un ordinary dvd ba mas malinaw tlga un labas nya ?
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since my lcd only has 1 hdmi input, I use component video connection on my 696avs and it registers 720p and 1080i. so I guess the dv600 also upconverts through component? tama ba.
question though, aside from the 1080p upscaler, what are the other things to consider between the 696av and the 600av? im thinking of getting the 600 kasi later as a second dvd player.
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The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!
I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).
What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.
sir matz,
i have a pioneer dv600. do you mean that i can set up a ht by connecting my dvd to the bada 5 chnl amp? how's the sound quality compared with using a receiver?
im planning to set up a ht. if this pair is better then i might consider.
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sir pwede ba tong upscaler na to sa component cable lang? upto what scale kaya nito? kasi un tv namin hdtv na pero wlang hdmi ehh :D hangnag 1080i lang sya ehh (tried on my xbox360). and sir un ordinary dvd ba mas malinaw tlga un labas nya ?
since my lcd only has 1 hdmi input, I use component video connection on my 696avs and it registers 720p and 1080i. so I guess the dv600 also upconverts through component? tama ba.
Bros, it's a fact that an upscaler can work via component cables. However, two things you have to bear in mind: First, it's theoretically only up to 720p/1080i (1080p upscaling per the info I gathered can only be achieved via HDMI - provided your panel is Full HD of course); and secondly, it's selective and basically depends on your DVD upscaler. For instance for the early Samsung DVD player / upscalers like the HD931 / HD841 etc - it wasn't allowed to upscale right out of the box due to the HDCP restriction so a remote control hack was needed to enable upscaling via component. This hack was readily available on a number of A/V threads on the web.
Now with regards to the Pio 600AV, there doesn't seem to be a hack mentioned in any forum. Here's a thread in AVForums on this particular topic < CLICK HERE > (http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6112554) and it is likewise stated there that DV600 is not capable of upscaling via CVI. Progressive scanning yes, but it seems that for this particular player, you really need an HDMI connection to effect the upconversion.
You can see the 600AV manual here for more info on the capabilities of the machine: < DV 400/600 AV Manual > (http://www.superfi.co.uk/extras/Pioneer/Pioneer_DV-400V-600AV_manual.pdf)
Hope this helps ;)
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ehh sir san makakabili nung sammy na upscaler na yan and how much kaya ? kasi compponent lang po un amin ehh :D baka masayang bili ko sa pio 600
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bought the dv600 last night and it does not upconvert via component. ill have to check my dv696 and see if it does. not last time I checked di rin kaya.
hay... thats the problem in buying an lcd way too early. only got one hdmi input.
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;D jackpot! but atleast we enjoyed lcd viewing earlier ;D
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This DV600 looks to be a popular brand both for video & audio ;D
Considering what it can do, atleast may mga bagay pa sa HT na hindi naman masyado mahal :D ;D
Congrats to all those who bought - hopefully, maka sali din ako sa inyo soon ;)
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sir matt u used a 5ch int amp po ba or power amp? tnx
Its an integrated amp with volume control, remote, and some 2 channel inputs (DVD, TV, CD) aside from its 5.1 inputs.
i have a pioneer dv600. do you mean that i can set up a ht by connecting my dvd to the bada 5 chnl amp? how's the sound quality compared with using a receiver?
im planning to set up a ht. if this pair is better then i might consider.
Yes, but no tuner & lots of analog connections at the back. Power wise, I could safely say w/ my constant upgrade experience that its equivalent to receiver over 2-2.5x its estimated price :o ! As you can see, it only took me 10 mins to decide w/c amp says goodbye to my setup as the diff was too obvious. Decoder wise, it will depend on your DVDp, & it was impressive with the DV-600. Problem is this just a sample unit, release date unknown. :-[
This DV600 looks to be a popular brand both for video & audio ;D
Considering what it can do, atleast may mga bagay pa sa HT na hindi naman masyado mahal :D ;D
Congrats to all those who bought - hopefully, maka sali din ako sa inyo soon ;)
Its also decent in audio. Its still not at the level of higher dedicated CD players, but very good performance for its price.
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ehh sir san makakabili nung sammy na upscaler na yan and how much kaya ? kasi compponent lang po un amin ehh :D baka masayang bili ko sa pio 600
You can check Sammie's ph website HERE. (http://www.samsung.com/ph/products/dvd/player/index.asp) The DVD 1080P7 costs around P6k and upscales up to 1080p but via HDMI. It has component inputs but am not sure if it can still upscale via CVI. The Legacy models of Sammie (i.e. HD-938, HD860 etc) were the ones which can be hacked via the HDCP remote code, BUT since Samsung was reprimanded by a number of A/V sects for coming out with an easily-hackable device, they tightened the HDCP restriction in the newer models - presumably this 1080P7 included.
Anyway to get back to topic, since the new Sammy players are likewise oriented towards HDMI for the upconversion, why don't you just upgrade your panel ;D (since you'll eventually need a panel with an HDMI input in the future to attain full HD Nirvana) and just score the versatile and value for money 600AV. May seem like a silly suggestion for now but may be the more cost-efficient alternative taking a more long term perspective. ;)
Well, if have the budget to boot, another option of course is to try other upscaler brands like Oppo ;) but in one of the threads in PDVD, it seems like you'll need a very hard to come-by firmware to enable upscaling via CVI if you want to go beyond 480p. Even Oppo Digital Inc. doesn't support these tactical firmwares - thus no guarantee it'll work. Check out this very informative thread HERE. (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=75454.msg768766#msg768766)
I don't know what your panel is but if that has an internal scaler already well, baka best na dun ka na lang muna umasa if you don't want to spend too much. ;) Most lcd/plasmas nowadays should be able to upscale the usual 480I DVD signal to it's higher native resolution if you go beyond 32".
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mga sir, magkano ba ito??
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mga 6200-6400 lowest ngayon ng dv600.
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^ ah ok. thanks. isa pang question mga sir, malaki ba ang difference ng pq at aq nito sa philips dvp5166k? sa standard tv ko lang sya gagamitin.
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^ ah ok. thanks. isa pang question mga sir, malaki ba ang difference ng pq at aq nito sa philips dvp5166k? sa standard tv ko lang sya gagamitin.
If you are planning to upgrade in the near future for a 1080p capable TV (LDC, plasma) it matters to choose Pioneer 600. If not pareho lang yan (Pioneer & Philips). One thing more, Pioneer is DVD-A & SACD capable compared to Philips which is only SACD. Again this doesn't matter since there are only few SACD & DVD-A available in the market but if you have this collections, it's a must for you to get Pioneer 600 even without HDTV.
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^ ah ok. i'll have to go with the dv-600 nalang. may balak din kasi kami bumili ng lcd. thanks sa reply!!
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good choice. id go for pioneer anytime vs. philips. I just dont like their gear.
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has anyone tried using this player to play a divx file that is HR? usually, these files are around 700Mb in size for a 30 minute show, as opposed to the more common 350Mb that regular DivX compatible DVD players can play.
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The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!
I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).
What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.
Sir MatZ ask ko lang, since u used ur pio's 5.1 analog outputs for ur setup, I presume there is a master vol control on the supplied remote?
I have a philips dvd player with analog 5.1 output. I dont have an AVR yet so Im planning to upgrade to this pio to replace my philips and Im also thinking of using its built in decoder as with my current setup. Pwede rin ba adjust audio out settings ng individual 5.1 analog outputs nito?
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has anyone tried using this player to play a divx file that is HR? usually, these files are around 700Mb in size for a 30 minute show, as opposed to the more common 350Mb that regular DivX compatible DVD players can play.
i've tested some downloaded anime (Gundam 00) encoded in 1280 x720, and it cannot be played in the Pio 600 (using Samsung r81 32" as display).What particular resolution of divx movies can the pio 600 play/are suppported?
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has anyone tried using this player to play a divx file that is HR? usually, these files are around 700Mb in size for a 30 minute show, as opposed to the more common 350Mb that regular DivX compatible DVD players can play.
Nope , they dont play on the pio 600
Sir MatZ ask ko lang, since u used ur pio's 5.1 analog outputs for ur setup, I presume there is a master vol control on the supplied remote?
I have a philips dvd player with analog 5.1 output. I dont have an AVR yet so Im planning to upgrade to this pio to replace my philips and Im also thinking of using its built in decoder as with my current setup. Pwede rin ba adjust audio out settings ng individual 5.1 analog outputs nito?
Yes, there is a volume control on the remote of the amp (not DVDp) and the amp itself.
You can adjust the settings from your DVD player. I dont get what you mean exactly by adjusting audio outs. but if you mean adjusting the volume balance of each channel on the amp, yes there is a function that can do that.
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most of the HR DivX files I'm talking about have a resolution of 960x540 and is ripped from a 1080i source with AC3 audio.
Can these be played using this player?
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i've tested some downloaded anime (Gundam 00) encoded in 1280 x720, and it cannot be played in the Pio 600 (using Samsung r81 32" as display).What particular resolution of divx movies can the pio 600 play/are suppported?
i tried to play the 1280x720 resolution and it says that its not supported but will play anyway but without video....just the audio
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get an xbox 360 or a ps3...those play divx hd :)
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i've tested some downloaded anime (Gundam 00) encoded in 1280 x720, and it cannot be played in the Pio 600 (using Samsung r81 32" as display).What particular resolution of divx movies can the pio 600 play/are suppported?
- 1280 X 720 is x264, which is not supported by the pio.
- 1280 X 720 is divx, but the pio only supports standard resolutions and then upscales if warranted.
i tried to play the 1280x720 resolution and it says that its not supported but will play anyway but without video....just the audio
Audio is probably mp3 so thats why it plays even though video is not supported.
get an xbox 360 or a ps3...those play divx hd :)
and/or HTPC swabeng swabe!
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AFAIK any 720p avi file encoded using x264 (open source H264 using mkv format, torrent title will usually have x264 on its line) won't play on current DivX players as they are using the H264 or MPEG-4 Part 10 codec. H264 isn't something DivX can handle as of yet.
However, last Nov16, Divx purchased MainConcept, a german company specializing on H264 to enable DivX to handle H264 in the future.
So for now HD HTPC's and those expensive standalone like the DviCo M4100SH.
Is the black Pio 600 locally available from the usual electronics shops like Abenson's, Western, etc? I'm looking to purchase one on Monday
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depende some of them order pa. to be sure just go to the shangrila shops or to the ambassador branches.
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Sir Marl_1! I have a question here from my nephew, who recently bought a Pio600 last Sunday. His concern is:
Last sunday I bought the DV 600 in sights and sounds! But guess what... when you use the HDMI cable pala, you cannot watch in dolby digital 5.1! it is only 2 way stereo! was kinda disappointed... so now in order to watch in dolby, i have to use the component cable connection. if i want to use HDMI, i have to turn off my amp! have you had any experience of the sort? or heard of this?
Can you enlighten me on this or does anyone have knowledge on this? :-\
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@ stickfighter
Just want to share my insight... if you will not connect your HDMI to a receiver capable of dolby digital 5.1, you cannot enjoy said sound because tv just have at least left and right speakers... therefore 2 way stereo will be the acceptable setting... on the other hand, you may improve it by setting the virtual surround.
In my case, i connected pio600 to tv via HDMI and to a receiver capable of dolby digital and dts via coax.... ayos na ayos! di casi HDMI capable yung receiver ko....
mga bossing, tama po ba? hope this help...
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^ yup tama ka bro! thats my setup din. dv600--->HDMI-->tv then dv600-->optical cable-->avr
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^ yup tama ka bro! thats my setup din. dv600--->HDMI-->tv then dv600-->optical cable-->avr
We're almost the same: dv600--->HDMI-->tv then dv600-->COAX CABLE-->avr. I opted for coax, mas makapal ang tunog, hehehe! (Subjective, just me)
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^ hehe cge bro try ko din minsan if may mapansin ako tnx!
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;D sali ako! same connection used.
lcd ==> hdmi ==> dv600 ==> optical cable ==> avr = pwede na sa DTS ;D
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Friendly advice lang, unless you have so much spare moolah & fully HD ka na, dont lust for those HDMI receivers that much.
I got one & only difference was less cable clutter. :-\
My component upconvert capable GIEC DVDp (no HDMI) was still better pa rin than HDMI.
;D sali ako! same connection used.
lcd ==> hdmi ==> dv600 ==> optical cable ==> avr = pwede na sa DTS ;D
LCD==>HDMI===> DV600==>6 analog cables from DV600's 5.1 out===> prototype Bada 5 channel integrated power amp w/ torroidal PSU.
DTS, DD SACD, DVD-a capable! excellent room filling power!
Again, DV-600's 5.1 outs are not bad!!!
We're almost the same: dv600--->HDMI-->tv then dv600-->COAX CABLE-->avr. I opted for coax, mas makapal ang tunog, hehehe! (Subjective, just me)
Agree ako dyan!
subjective!din
Baka hingian tayo ng scientific proof at charts! :D
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To eksi, kt, fnvillafuerte, juric and Matzter...thanks for your inputs. I forwarded your replies to my nephew and he tried what you mentioned. Here is what transpired:
"thanks for the help. i tried what the guys said in your email... I connected via coax and still only get 2 channels.
actually my work around is the following...
my dv600 is now connected to the TV via ypbpr cable. this way i can use the dolby 5.1 audio outs into my receiver. then, I have to manually plug the HDMI cable to the DVD to enjoy the 1080i picture. key here is not to have HDMI cable plugged to the dvd when I turn it on so that the player thinks im still on ypbpr mode. If the HDMI cable is plugged, only 2 channel dolby will be transmitted to the receiver. (i read the manual.. dang!) i just hope that the dv600 wont break because of me using 2 outputs at the same time.
anyway, maybe i should get a HDMI capable receiver! hahaha!!! that will be the day..."
What do you guys think? :-\
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Agree ako dyan!
subjective!din
Baka hingian tayo ng scientific proof at charts! :D
make that 3. i use a coax from dv600 to avr.. which saddens me since the ps3 only has optical and no coaxial. kinda forces you to buy an hdmi receiver... sorry ot.
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make that 3. i use a coax from dv600 to avr.. which saddens me since the ps3 only has optical and no coaxial. kinda forces you to buy an hdmi receiver... sorry ot.
though im already satisfied with my optical cable. this makes me so curious, i have to try this!
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how much today dv600?
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6200 to 6400.
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Which is better ba?
TV --> HDMI --> DVD player (Digital out) --> AVR (Digital In)
TV --> HDMI --> DVD player (6-channel audio out) --> AVR (6-channel direct In)
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kaya po ma mag-upscale ng dv600 to 720p/1080i via component? o striclty thru hdmi dapat?
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HDMI only bro
Which is better ba?
TV --> HDMI --> DVD player (Digital out) --> AVR (Digital In)
TV --> HDMI --> DVD player (6-channel audio out) --> AVR (6-channel direct In)
In most cases, option 1 of course. Specially if you want the calibrations (YPAO, Audysey) to work. And to use the DSP's of your receiver.
Option 2 is better if your AVR is not capable of decoding a surround format, like prologic receivers. The receiver acts as a mere amplifier with volume control. something nice to do if you found a flagship prologic receiver in an attic. Decoding will depend in your DVDp.
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though im already satisfied with my optical cable. this makes me so curious, i have to try this!
naku ako din dati pa curious dyan! hehe matry nga din! ;D
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tagal ko nang di nakasali sa dv600 via coax to avr discussion ah...
question lang mga sir... with the current set-up above sobrang gandang ganda ako sa sound if i'm playing dvd movies, dvd concerts and dvd music videos (with dolby digital or dts)... but if i play audio cd parang iba ang quality (seems kulang sa base... mas mahina ang LFE sound compared to dvd play... although same set-up naman while playing dvd), although hindi na dolby digital or dts ang nadedetect na source ng avr... its stereo instead... i tried switching to 7 channel stereo, pero hindi parin lumakas yung base... lumakas lang yung volume kasi pati sa surround may music na akong naririnig...
heto tuloy speculations ko...
1. normal audio cd kasi pineplay ko.... mas okay siguro ang pio600 in playing SAcd
2. need to switch to analog while playing cd... kasi using normal audio cd sa aiwa audio component namin maganda naman ang sound (with very good LFE sound).
3. sobrang maganda talaga ang dvd so hindi ko dapat i-compare ang sound to normal audio cd... pero may hesitation ako dito kasi gaya nga ng namention ko sa number 2, using cd player audio component comparable na ang sound ng normal cd to dvd playing in pio600.
fellow dv600 users... hope you could give your comments on this...
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6200 to 6400.
Sensya na po - quick 'hirit' lang mga mods while B&S is out. If anybody's interested to acquire a 600AV, am willing to part with mine for P5k only if anybody's interested (mint condition - only 3 months used).
Please just reply via PM only (and not within this thread). Many thanks, back to your regular programming. ;D
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kaya po ma mag-upscale ng dv600 to 720p/1080i via component? o striclty thru hdmi dapat?
if only i have the cables, I would try this :)
HDMI OUT-->HDMI TO DVI CONNECTOR----->DVI TO COMPONENT CONNECTOR
Would this work? ???
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if only i have the cables, I would try this :)
HDMI OUT-->HDMI TO DVI CONNECTOR----->DVI TO COMPONENT CONNECTOR
Would this work? ???
Looks plausible...;D Sounds 'lossy' though. With the number of interconnects, one would eventually worry about signal degradation.
Why not go direct - HDMI OUT to COMPONENT IN.
(http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00qvKTBfjcgtoaM/PS3-DVD-Component-Cable-PS3-708-.jpg)
Well, on hindsight, it still wouldn't solve the "upscaling via HDMI only" parameter of the DV600 would it? :-\ Get an HDMI panel na lang! ;D
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Up ko lang po....
tagal ko nang di nakasali sa dv600 via coax to avr discussion ah...
question lang mga sir... with the current set-up above sobrang gandang ganda ako sa sound if i'm playing dvd movies, dvd concerts and dvd music videos (with dolby digital or dts)... but if i play audio cd parang iba ang quality (seems kulang sa base... mas mahina ang LFE sound compared to dvd play... although same set-up naman while playing dvd), although hindi na dolby digital or dts ang nadedetect na source ng avr... its stereo instead... i tried switching to 7 channel stereo, pero hindi parin lumakas yung base... lumakas lang yung volume kasi pati sa surround may music na akong naririnig...
heto tuloy speculations ko...
1. normal audio cd kasi pineplay ko.... mas okay siguro ang pio600 in playing SAcd
2. need to switch to analog while playing cd... kasi using normal audio cd sa aiwa audio component namin maganda naman ang sound (with very good LFE sound).
3. sobrang maganda talaga ang dvd so hindi ko dapat i-compare ang sound to normal audio cd... pero may hesitation ako dito kasi gaya nga ng namention ko sa number 2, using cd player audio component comparable na ang sound ng normal cd to dvd playing in pio600.
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Hi eksi, I'm using ordinary audio CDs (orig, copied and pirated) in my dv600 and I do not experience weak bass. I connect my player to AVR via digital coax cable.
Up ko lang po....
tagal ko nang di nakasali sa dv600 via coax to avr discussion ah...
question lang mga sir... with the current set-up above sobrang gandang ganda ako sa sound if i'm playing dvd movies, dvd concerts and dvd music videos (with dolby digital or dts)... but if i play audio cd parang iba ang quality (seems kulang sa base... mas mahina ang LFE sound compared to dvd play... although same set-up naman while playing dvd), although hindi na dolby digital or dts ang nadedetect na source ng avr... its stereo instead... i tried switching to 7 channel stereo, pero hindi parin lumakas yung base... lumakas lang yung volume kasi pati sa surround may music na akong naririnig...
heto tuloy speculations ko...
1. normal audio cd kasi pineplay ko.... mas okay siguro ang pio600 in playing SAcd
2. need to switch to analog while playing cd... kasi using normal audio cd sa aiwa audio component namin maganda naman ang sound (with very good LFE sound).
3. sobrang maganda talaga ang dvd so hindi ko dapat i-compare ang sound to normal audio cd... pero may hesitation ako dito kasi gaya nga ng namention ko sa number 2, using cd player audio component comparable na ang sound ng normal cd to dvd playing in pio600.
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Hi Grimlock, may i know what's the setting you use when you play CDs (such as surround, DSP setting etc.)
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Looks plausible...;D Sounds 'lossy' though. With the number of interconnects, one would eventually worry about signal degradation.
Why not go direct - HDMI OUT to COMPONENT IN.
(http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00qvKTBfjcgtoaM/PS3-DVD-Component-Cable-PS3-708-.jpg)
Saan nakakabili nito bro? how much?
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Saan nakakabili nito bro? how much?
Sorry bro my bad. It's a gaming cable pala and not a true hdmi to cvi line. Tried searching and it seems the only one which exists is the HDMI to DVI and DVI to CVI. As such it appears that edboy7's proposal is the best workaround. ;)
There is some developmental news however via the grapevine:
http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/03/29/microsoft-prepping-component-to-hdmi-adapter/ (http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/03/29/microsoft-prepping-component-to-hdmi-adapter/)
I won't hold my breath though if I were you. ;D
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Sorry bro my bad. It's a gaming cable pala and not a true hdmi to cvi line. Tried searching and it seems the only one which exists is the HDMI to DVI and DVI to CVI. As such it appears that edboy7's proposal is the best workaround. ;)
There is some developmental news however via the grapevine:
http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/03/29/microsoft-prepping-component-to-hdmi-adapter/ (http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/03/29/microsoft-prepping-component-to-hdmi-adapter/)
I won't hold my breath though if I were you. ;D
No problem bro, abang-abang na lang ako, thanks :)
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Up ko lang po....
tagal ko nang di nakasali sa dv600 via coax to avr discussion ah...
question lang mga sir... with the current set-up above sobrang gandang ganda ako sa sound if i'm playing dvd movies, dvd concerts and dvd music videos (with dolby digital or dts)... but if i play audio cd parang iba ang quality (seems kulang sa base... mas mahina ang LFE sound compared to dvd play... although same set-up naman while playing dvd), although hindi na dolby digital or dts ang nadedetect na source ng avr... its stereo instead... i tried switching to 7 channel stereo, pero hindi parin lumakas yung base... lumakas lang yung volume kasi pati sa surround may music na akong naririnig...
heto tuloy speculations ko...
1. normal audio cd kasi pineplay ko.... mas okay siguro ang pio600 in playing SAcd
2. need to switch to analog while playing cd... kasi using normal audio cd sa aiwa audio component namin maganda naman ang sound (with very good LFE sound).
3. sobrang maganda talaga ang dvd so hindi ko dapat i-compare ang sound to normal audio cd... pero may hesitation ako dito kasi gaya nga ng namention ko sa number 2, using cd player audio component comparable na ang sound ng normal cd to dvd playing in pio600.
Eksi try ko sagutin inquiries mo. First, there are difference in the playback resolution of your source, SACD, DVD-A, DTS-CD are recorded in high resolution format compared to our redbook CD's, but it doesn't mean they sounded better.
Basically digital playback requires D/A converter to hear them, If you are using HDMI or Coax/tosslink output of your source connecting your A/V Amp. these are digital outputs. That means, your A/VReceiver doing the D/A conversion.
Pls. note that the following source doesn't have digital output, only analog (LR/5.1)
* DVD-A
* SACD
You need to use many cables connecting your A/V amp thru 5/6 channel input
Now lets go back to your questions:
1. normal audio cd kasi pineplay ko.... mas okay siguro ang pio600 in playing SAcd
I believe you are using the analog output of your player in playing your SACD then you compare your CD playback using digital connection, you mentioned that sounds get better if you connect your CD playback using the analog signal. This means your player has a better D/A converter than your A/V receiver.
2. need to switch to analog while playing cd... kasi using normal audio cd sa aiwa audio component namin maganda naman ang sound (with very good LFE sound). Assumin you are using the same player in the playback of your CD's & SACD this means your player have better D/A converter than your A/V receiver, better leave it this way.
3. sobrang maganda talaga ang dvd so hindi ko dapat i-compare ang sound to normal audio cd... pero may hesitation ako dito kasi gaya nga ng namention ko sa number 2, using cd player audio component comparable na ang sound ng normal cd to dvd playing in pio600.
Might the number 1&2 answers this question.
For me two channel set-up sounds natural to me compare to muli-channel audio set-up. I didn't mean they are not good it's just a different listening experience when listening to multi-channel but I prefer the 2 channel whatever the source I have SACD or DVD-A.
By the way, DV600 is not good in multi channel playback of both SACD & DVD-A in my experience.
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thanks odyopayl...
actually... i have not yet tried connected pio600 to AVR using analog, just a plan... but i will try tomorrow to know which has better decoder (player vs AVR)...
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Yes, there is a volume control on the remote of the amp (not DVDp) and the amp itself.
You can adjust the settings from your DVD player. I dont get what you mean exactly by adjusting audio outs. but if you mean adjusting the volume balance of each channel on the amp, yes there is a function that can do that.
So wala pala shang master vol control sa mismong pio dvd player remote. Fixed pala output vol ng 5.1 analog output nya.
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Sorry to the mods also but since the selling section is still down, I am selling my Pioneer DV-600AV-S for 5k Purchased last month only. Pls pm me only if interested. Thank you
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Guys help naman. Nagupscale ba ng video ang xbox360? Kasi when I'm watching dvd on my 42pv70 using the xbox360 ang ganda ng pq pero when I'm watching using my pio dv-300 hindi ganun kaganda yung pq. Both were connected using component cable. Yung xbox360 is nakaoutput sya at 720p pero pag nagplay naman na yung movie e lumilitaw na 480p lang. Yung pio dv-300 naman nakaprogressive scan. Hope someone could enlighten me on the difference between the two.
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For CD listening, I just use Denon's 5 ch. stereo or Dolby Digital Pro Logic II settings. No volume adjustments done on the Pioneer player
Hi Grimlock, may i know what's the setting you use when you play CDs (such as surround, DSP setting etc.)
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from doom9:
Think of your computer monitor right now: even though it's 1280x1024 (or whatever), you can play DVDs etc., right? Now if you connect your TV as a monitor, nothing has changed. Everything on your desktop is automatically "upscaled" all the time. No special programs needed.
Upscaling provides no benefit to movies.
If you took an old 35mm slide from the 60's and shine it on a 50' screen, do you suddenly get super hidef? It's the same crappy old slide spread over a larger area.
The only difference between a normal DVD player and an upscaling one is that in the first case, the TV does the upscaling internally, in the next case, the DVD player does the upscaling. Same result either way, a standard def picture spread over a larger pixel area.
Note: without getting too technical, the above only applies to plasma, lcd, dlp, both direct and projection technologies. Some tube TVs may react differently.
There are mathematical techniques called "super resolution", but you're not going to find that in any consumer DVD player.
Btw, most displays are *downscaling* because they can't show the full detail of HDTV! A typical LCD HDTV only has 1366x1024 pixels, which is less than the 1920x180 of hidef. A tube TV I measured always downgraded to 960x540, and plasma is often 1024x852 (IIRC).
hi all,
malayo ba ang pq when using an upscaler for the panny 42pv70?
i am deciding to buy dv600av or just hook up my old pc to the plasma tv.
can i achieve pq of dv600 with my pc using powerdvd, and using dvi to hdmi cable?
thanks
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[quote mykel=mykel]Guys help naman. Nagupscale ba ng video ang xbox360? Kasi when I'm watching dvd on my 42pv70 using the xbox360 ang ganda ng pq pero when I'm watching using my pio dv-300 hindi ganun kaganda yung pq. Both were connected using component cable. Yung xbox360 is nakaoutput sya at 720p pero pag nagplay naman na yung movie e lumilitaw na 480p lang. Yung pio dv-300 naman nakaprogressive scan. Hope someone could enlighten me on the difference between the two.[/quote]
I have xbox360 connected to 32"lcd via component too... hindi po sya nag uupscale pero like your experience maganda ang pic quality. Xbox360 can output 1080p which depends on the source... since 480i/p lang ang native resolution ng dvds yun lang ang nadedetect ng display. I suggest get higher model of pio dvd player mas maganda pic quality compare to xbox360 (lalo na yung naguupscale via HDMI)... you can choose between dv400 or dv60
[quote grimlock=grimlock]For CD listening, I just use Denon's 5 ch. stereo or Dolby Digital Pro Logic II settings. No volume adjustments done on the Pioneer player
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I'm using Denon AVR din po... okay po ba LFE using this settings?
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6200 to 6400.
Sir san po store available ung ganyang price??? TIA
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was able to test avr analog connection earlier using XBOX 360... i found the sound (playing music: ipod, cds) better than pio 600 connected via coax... i will just dedicate my pio 600 in dvd watching... malamang maganda din for cd playback ang pio 600 (via analog) pero di ko na na-try (satisfied na kasi ako sa current set up ng pio 600 ko).... ciao!
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Sir san po store available ung ganyang price??? TIA
try theaterworks trinoma.
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Sir san po store available ung ganyang price??? TIA
Try SM Appliance Store outlets in Podium and Powerplant as well. ;)
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Sir san po store available ung ganyang price??? TIA
v-mall. i think mine came from ambassador... or golden sound. my brother got it for me as he does business there and knows the owners. diba ninyo makuha at that price? pm me if not, I'll refer you and have the unit reserved.
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ambassador 6500 last week.
still have not decided to buy am upscaler.
sabi daw forums minimal daw ang difference kung gamit ang mga $300 dvd upscalers for the newer hdtv models,
dapat daw yun mga above $1000 professional products.
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ambassador 6500 last week.
still have not decided to buy am upscaler.
sabi daw forums minimal daw ang difference kung gamit ang mga $300 dvd upscalers for the newer hdtv models,
dapat daw yun mga above $1000 professional products.
Wow $1000 budget. For that dough, you can already go DEEP into the HD territory with a matching HD player (be it Bluray or HD-DVD), probably with a matching HDMI AVR to output TruHD tracks, and a couple of HD discs vs. playing around with DVD upconversion image manipulations. Go for the pure HD source. IMO, the 600 AV for the equivalent price tag of $160 is very much bang for your buck vs. a $300 or $1000 dvd upscaler. Planning to spend anymore than that, better to invest in HD altogether.
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try theaterworks trinoma.
Try SM Appliance Store outlets in Podium and Powerplant as well. ;)
v-mall. i think mine came from ambassador... or golden sound. my brother got it for me as he does business there and knows the owners. diba ninyo makuha at that price? pm me if not, I'll refer you and have the unit reserved.
tnx for all d replies, sir maganda din po ung suggestion nyo ng referrals sa ambassador. what branch po b?
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it's a maxtor 200g HD. better check your enclosure or the connections. usually dun ang error. it wont work if its connected to a desktop- it should be a removable disk.
sir i have tried this solution don sa 80GB harddisk ko. problema lang di ko magawang i-format yong buong disk ng isang partition lang n FAT32 dahil pag nag-exceed na nag 30GB nire-require na ng system n ma-format sya ng NTFS. THough nagawa kong hatiin into 3 partitions ung 80GB formatted in FAT32 kaya lang isang partition lang nababasa ng DVD player ko. Can you help me to know how you were able to format yong 200G mo n nakikita ng DVD player mo? TIA.
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if you are using Windows98, it can format a hd without partitioning. If you are using other OS, then have your hd reformatted either in Greenhills or other pc shops. My friend was able to have his 360G HD formatted to Fat32 without partition in one of the shops in Greenhills. Good luck bro.
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sir i have tried this solution don sa 80GB harddisk ko. problema lang di ko magawang i-format yong buong disk ng isang partition lang n FAT32 dahil pag nag-exceed na nag 30GB nire-require na ng system n ma-format sya ng NTFS. THough nagawa kong hatiin into 3 partitions ung 80GB formatted in FAT32 kaya lang isang partition lang nababasa ng DVD player ko. Can you help me to know how you were able to format yong 200G mo n nakikita ng DVD player mo? TIA.
google swissknife
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Success! I can now view movies using the USB slot! download na ng mga HD movies! yahoo yahoo! ;D
Which model of the Pioneer DVD is this? 400 or 600?
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question lang po.
If the avi files have AC3 encoding. will the dv400/dv600 also output in ac3/dolby digital?
Anyone has tried this?
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google swissknife
finally! got it running using swissknife. thnx a lot!
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Hi,
Can anyone advise how much a DV600 costs?
thanks!
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I notice when playing with flash drive or portable hd on a usb built in dvd player, They tend to freeze or skip when playing fast moving action scenes.
I think there devices are not yet USB 2.0.
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guys matanong ko lang, how long does your pio DV600 shows the image on the screen from the time you load the disc?
when I load the disc, i wait for an average 12 or more seconds before something is displayed on the screen. ganun ba katagal talaga itong pio 600 mag display? For some discs, i waited around 68 seconds bago may display. sobrang tagal.
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dv-600 users ask ko lang bakit kaya ang ang audio nakasulat pag negsekect ka ng audio is always 2.1 even though the track is 5.1 at ang nilalabas nya naman sa reciever is 5.1 nagtataka lang ako dahil lahat ng pinapanood ko lagi na lang 2.1 ang nakadisplay either dts or dolby ang speaker settings ko naman sa player is 5.1. bakit kaya?
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Wow $1000 budget. For that dough, you can already go DEEP into the HD territory with a matching HD player (be it Bluray or HD-DVD), probably with a matching HDMI AVR to output TruHD tracks, and a couple of HD discs vs. playing around with DVD upconversion image manipulations. Go for the pure HD source. IMO, the 600 AV for the equivalent price tag of $160 is very much bang for your buck vs. a $300 or $1000 dvd upscaler. Planning to spend anymore than that, better to invest in HD altogether.
Yes, for $1,000, just add $600 more and get the Onkyo 875 with reon HQV. You get a THX ultra receiver for just a few bucks more.
Thats what I did. The PQ of the 875 is superb! I only need to set my DVD player at 480i. Double upscaling (upscaling on DVDp & receiver) didnt give good results.
Again the Pio 600 is still grainy on a PJ size screen, on any setting: 480i to 720p on the reon upscaler :(.
Any PJ user with setting tips on how to reduce the graininess of the DV-600? My GIEC does a way better job through component. :(
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Hi,
Can anyone advise how much a DV600 costs?
thanks!
still around 6,700 bro. but some of the guys here find a better price from other branches for 6,200. just check out some of the posts. good luck! :)
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guys, please help a very problematic man...
my branded hdmi cable hasn't arrived yet and i bought this evening the P250 CDR king hdmi cable. i plugged it in my player and my Samsung 32R81B. i didn't see any problem. i let my kids watched a movie. i came back after an hour only to find out that my tv is losing picture intermittently. the picture turns "snowy" until it's completely gone. i tried all 3 hdmi inputs of the tv and the response is the same. i tried interchanging the hdmi ends between the tv and the player. no success. i have no other hdmi capable player or hdmi cable to try and isolate the problem.
has anybody experienced this? i hope it's the hdmi cable and not the tv or dvd player. pls help.
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Which do you turn on first, the TV or the DVD player? Same thing happens to me if I turn on the player first. Reversing the order resolves it for me.
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how do you split files? I have downloaded series of planet earth and most of them are 2GB. What software do you use?
thanks
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i'm not sure exactly how i got it fixed. i tried it the following morning and the problem's gone. i was able to use the cd-r king cable for few more days without glitch! weird...
now, i'm using the free hdmi cable from e-reply and i never experienced the same problem again. maybe just dust getting into the hdmi port of the tv, i don't know. order of which i turn on first is something i haven't noticed if there's an effect but more likely the tv gets turned on first before the player. i'll try it later to see if the order is a factor. thanks for the input.
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i also own this baby.
btw meron ba makukuhaan ng firmware updates nito?
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after a few months of thinking, finally got this as my upscaler, para hindi malaspag ang ps3 and tosh hd-a3. i got it for only 6k flat with free hdmi cable pa!
pm me if you want to know from which av store i bought it from. ;D ;D ;D
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I've recently purchased a 32LX77 and been considering to buy this player. I'm thinking of replacing our non-progressive scanning DVD player, a Pio DV-533K, which I think has been with us for almost 6 years now. Right now (correct me if I'm wrong), the TV upscales the output of the 533K since it fills the whole screen of the TV. Will a better PQ result if I get a DV600 or will it be just the same with it? Coz I've read in some of the topics here that HD-esque PQ is not noticeable in a 32-inch display. I also want to use the HDMI ports of the 32LX77 because our player is connected via component only. I would really appreciate your replies. :)
By the way, what does "PJ" stand for? Madalas ko kasi nababasa yun sa mga replies nyo e. ;D
@iinaslao - Pa-PM which AV store you bought your DV600. Thanks! :)
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Hey,...
try not to expect a big difference or development sa picture quality if you buy an upscaling DVD,
I am using the lower model pioneer DV400, and the only difference I see via the HDMI connection is that the color is much richer, the sides of images are smoother and softer, and the relics and artifacts in the background are a bit clearer. I'd say 20 to 30% improvement, using a 42" plasma, I guess, if you are using a 37" baka mas lalong hindi din kapansin pansin...
I guess, if we really want a huge step forward in terms of audio and video quality my friend, BLU-RAY is the only way to go...
Regards,
ABC
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I've recently purchased a 32LX77 and been considering to buy this player. I'm thinking of replacing our non-progressive scanning DVD player, a Pio DV-533K, which I think has been with us for almost 6 years now. Right now (correct me if I'm wrong), the TV upscales the output of the 533K since it fills the whole screen of the TV. Will a better PQ result if I get a DV600 or will it be just the same with it? Coz I've read in some of the topics here that HD-esque PQ is not noticeable in a 32-inch display. I also want to use the HDMI ports of the 32LX77 because our player is connected via component only. I would really appreciate your replies. :)
By the way, what does "PJ" stand for? Madalas ko kasi nababasa yun sa mga replies nyo e. ;D
@iinaslao - Pa-PM which AV store you bought your DV600. Thanks! :)
pj - projector
pero it may not be noticeable nga ang difference sa 32". unless you sit mga 4 ft from the screen.
pmed you sir!
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mga gurus,
pardon my ignorant question. kung naka set ang pioneer dv600 nyo to DTS dapat ba rin naka DTS neo6 ang a/v receiver? minsan kasi naka set sa dts ang dv600 tapos yung av receiver ko naka dolby at nagustuhan ko naman ang tunog. dapat bang parehas ang setting ng dvdp at av receiver to maximize audio quality?
thanks
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mga gurus,
pardon my ignorant question. kung naka set ang pioneer dv600 nyo to DTS dapat ba rin naka DTS neo6 ang a/v receiver? minsan kasi naka set sa dts ang dv600 tapos yung av receiver ko naka dolby at nagustuhan ko naman ang tunog. dapat bang parehas ang setting ng dvdp at av receiver to maximize audio quality?
thanks
Your A/V Receiver should automatically set to DTS if you set your dvd player to dts, in order to do this, you should set your avr to "AUTO" to detect the format being played by your dvd player... If not, you can manually set your avr to dts. Hope this helps :)
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mga gurus,
pardon my ignorant question. kung naka set ang pioneer dv600 nyo to DTS dapat ba rin naka DTS neo6 ang a/v receiver? minsan kasi naka set sa dts ang dv600 tapos yung av receiver ko naka dolby at nagustuhan ko naman ang tunog. dapat bang parehas ang setting ng dvdp at av receiver to maximize audio quality?
thanks
ano ba gamit mong connection dapat automatic na yun madedetect
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@ABC & iisnilao - Thanks for your replies. I've already seen HD rips in my TV streamed via XBOX 360. I can't help but be wowed by the stunning PQ! :o With today's prices of stand alone Blu-ray players, my pocket's not too deep for them. There's the PS3. Although its BR is region-free, it has DVD regional coding. I have a mixed collection of R1 and R3 DVDs. Sayang naman if I can't play them. I still have doubts if the PS3 can be used as a stand-alone player. Anyway, I just have to think twice buying the DV600. :)
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Your A/V Receiver should automatically set to DTS if you set your dvd player to dts, in order to do this, you should set your avr to "AUTO" to detect the format being played by your dvd player... If not, you can manually set your avr to dts. Hope this helps :)
reynold.
i am manually setting my av receiver everytime to match the dv600 audio settings. have not checked though if my av receiver was set to AUTO detect. now, i need to sit down and tinker with my av receiver ;D
otepsy,
i am using a digital coax connection to the av receiver.
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reynold.
i am manually setting my av receiver everytime to match the dv600 audio settings. have not checked though if my av receiver was set to AUTO detect. now, i need to sit down and tinker with my av receiver ;D
otepsy,
i am using a digital coax connection to the av receiver.
same tayo ng connection pero sakin automatic na nya nadedetect pag nag dts ako sa player automatic nagd-dts yung avr pag nag dolby ako ganun din... siguro sa settings lang yan ng avr or check mo na rin yung dv600 setting sa audio yung dts>dts dolby>dolby check mo lang.
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same tayo ng connection pero sakin automatic na nya nadedetect pag nag dts ako sa player automatic nagd-dts yung avr pag nag dolby ako ganun din... siguro sa settings lang yan ng avr or check mo na rin yung dv600 setting sa audio yung dts>dts dolby>dolby check mo lang.
ok sir otepsy. thanks ;)
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Just want to share my opinion as dv600 user too...
I don't think we have to set the player to DTS or Dolby (when connected to AVR via digital coax) because this player is capable of decoding both sound formats. It automatically switch to DTS or Dolby or Stereo depending on the DVD or CD you are playing. Therefore, we switch Dolby or DTS on the DVD's menu (if both sound format are available from the DVD), not on the player.
On the AVR side (when connected to the player via digital coax), the digital input terminal is usually set to Auto (like Denon receiver's default digital input terminal set-up).
Hope this help...
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after a few months of thinking, finally got this as my upscaler, para hindi malaspag ang ps3 and tosh hd-a3. i got it for only 6k flat with free hdmi cable pa!
pm me if you want to know from which av store i bought it from. ;D ;D ;D
bro saan mo nabili yang toshiba hd-a3?
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bro saan mo nabili yang toshiba hd-a3?
ot lang, got it from another pdvd member, 3 months old siya when i got it. very good price! he in turn got it from amazon usa.
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any price update nito?saan po pinaka mura bumili ng dv-600 ngaun?
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any price update nito?saan po pinaka mura bumili ng dv-600 ngaun?
i'd rather buy a ps3 coz the ps3 can also upscale dvd to 1080p.
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i'd rather buy a ps3 coz the ps3 can also upscale dvd to 1080p.
dvd playback is limited to what region your ps3 is. it's not region free compared to the dv600. also, dv600 costs only 1/3 of the ps3. they're not on the same league and each has its own strengths.
bought mine at theaterworks for 6.3k yata.
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dvd playback is limited to what region your ps3 is. it's not region free compared to the dv600. also, dv600 costs only 1/3 of the ps3. they're not on the same league and each has its own strengths.
bought mine at theaterworks for 6.3k yata.
i agree. and most of the ntsc ps3 people buy in the philippines is from japan, so this plays r2 dvds only. singapore and hk models play only r3.
got mine 6k flat with free hdmi cable. ;D ;D ;D
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opps, got mine pala at 6k flat. i was confused with the wharfe 9dfs that was sold at 4.3k (actualy 4,275 pesos lang).
no free hdmi pero may free naman dun sa panny 50pv70
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OT: san puede mag dl ng hd movies :D ty
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sa interweb dami.
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hi. got this model today at abensons but i cant play my R1 dvds. think the unit i got is locked to R3. is there anyway to make it multi region?
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Was able to unlock it by doing a little research. ;D
Here's a link if any of you need it: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586754 (http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586754)
Used my Palm pilot to load the hack codes via program called omni remote. Can now read my R1 dvd's. Yipee!
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newbie question po.
which audio settings from dv-600 you guys are using to feed your a/v receiver, dolby/dts or dolby/dts-PCM? does this means that using dolby/dts will use the dv-600 decoder and using PCM will use the a/v receiver's decoder? i had set it up to dolby/dts now because it can automatically detects dolby PLx and DTS Neo on my receiver while when setting to PCM, the receiver does not change it's settings according to dolby/dts feed.
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newbie question po.
which audio settings from dv-600 you guys are using to feed your a/v receiver, dolby/dts or dolby/dts-PCM? does this means that using dolby/dts will use the dv-600 decoder and using PCM will use the a/v receiver's decoder? i had set it up to dolby/dts now because it can automatically detects dolby PLx and DTS Neo on my receiver while when setting to PCM, the receiver does not change it's settings according to dolby/dts feed.
Thats the default setting, the DVD does the decoding thru HDMI. There are only 3 settings, just toggle among them and you will find one that lets the receiver decode the DD/DTS.
Or just simply read the manual! :D ;D
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Thats the default setting, the DVD does the decoding thru HDMI. There are only 3 settings, just toggle among them and you will find one that lets the receiver decode the DD/DTS.
Or just simply read the manual! :D ;D
matz,
i'm using a digital coax from dv600 to my avr. i did test it again a few minutes ago and when the dvd600's digital audio was set to Dolby or DTS, the receiver's audio setting (which is also set to detect feed signal in "AUTO") will change according to the dvd600's selection (toggling the AUDIO button-Dolby and DTS).
but when the dv600 setting is changed to Dolby>PCM or DTS>PCM, the receiver's audio setting will not change and just stayed on whatever it was set before, either Dolby or DTS. so when using the dvd's PCM out, the receiver sometimes is set to Dolby PLx while the dv600 is set to DTS.
btw, i am reading again the manual ang tried to digest what's written on it ;D
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Pioneer DV-600AV-S vs. HTPC Media Player: Watching a regular DVD into a 32" -42" LCDTV
Is there any noticeable diffence in terms of Picture Quality between these two?
1. DVD played in an Upscaling DVD player (example: / OPPO DV980H)
2. DVD played in an HTPC Media Player (Media Player Classic / VLC / PowerDVD)
Earlier, I tried to play an original LOTR DVD on my PC, sobrang laki ng difference ng PQ compared sa ripped Bluray ng LOTR (720p). Hindi maganda yung DVD sa PC.
Would you say na pareho or minimal difference lang ang PQ ng ripped HD-DVD/Bluray (720p) at regular DVD played on Upscaling DVD player?
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Hi I noticed the picture on this player is dark. This is the default setting in the player. I have to turn up the contrast and brightness way up in the player. Do you guys experience this? I dont think its my tv setting bec I compared my Sony ns76 with the same setting and the pioneer is really way darker. What settings do you guys have? Any feedbacks will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Different brands vary from different factory and default settings. Even two units of the same brand and model may vary from one another if calibrated differently.
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Different brands vary from different factory and default settings. Even two units of the same brand and model may vary from one another if calibrated differently.
I agree po... and to add... overtime po napapansin ko na nag-iimprove po ang performance ng display, therefore, i need to re-calibrate
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I agree po... and to add... overtime po napapansin ko na nag-iimprove po ang performance ng display, therefore, i need to re-calibrate
Yes, ur the only one who knows what settings soothes you best so good luck!
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itong dvd player kaya bang mag play ng kahit na anong klaseng dvd's including p****d discs like the orange brand from quiapo >?
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itong dvd player kaya bang mag play ng kahit na anong klaseng dvd's including p****d discs like the orange brand from quiapo >?
kya naman siguro pwera may region locking yan. Kadalasan its locked for region 1 dvds.
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the dv 600 i got from S&S plays dvd from all regions :)
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itong dvd player kaya bang mag play ng kahit na anong klaseng dvd's including p****d discs like the orange brand from quiapo >?
all region na yan sir, i have a pio dv400 it can play all region also.
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Saw the 2008-2009 brochure in the Pioneer Singapore website. The new models are coming out. DV-610AV-S and DV-410V-S(-K). May impovement kaya? Or just another marketing gimmick para bumili ng bago? Personally I like the looks of the DV-410V kasi may black.
http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/brochure/PAC_PDF_0520Final.pdf
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does the ps3 upscales sd dvd? i've read this on another thread that ps3 does not upscale sd dvds.
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does the ps3 upscales sd dvd? i've read this on another thread that ps3 does not upscale sd dvds.
Yes, the PS3 upscales sd dvd. Its very good. Perhaps one of the best. Unfortunately, may region lock. Also, if you use it for sd, I guess you reduce the life of its head, which is quite mahal din.
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To all users, may naririnig ba kayong sound coming out of the player while playing dvd or cd? mine produces a whirring sound, not loud but noticable. I just wanna check if it's normal.
TIA
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DV-600 user here, mine has no sound as per your description
To all users, may naririnig ba kayong sound coming out of the player while playing dvd or cd? mine produces a whirring sound, not loud but noticable. I just wanna check if it's normal.
TIA
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To all users, may naririnig ba kayong sound coming out of the player while playing dvd or cd? mine produces a whirring sound, not loud but noticable. I just wanna check if it's normal.
TIA
mine does not produce any whirring sound when playing.
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DV-600 user here, mine has no sound as per your description
Sir, what I meant was sound like the dvd player reading the disc. I tried my other 2 dvd player and it also has a sound. I just noticed that this particular player produces louder sound while playing.
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how much na ba ung ganitong unit?may color black ba ito?TIA :)
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how much na ba ung ganitong unit?may color black ba ito?TIA :)
meron black, pero madalang na madalang. silver ang common. mga 6k lakaran nyan ngayon. ;D
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how much na ba ung ganitong unit?may color black ba ito?TIA :)
Sa SGT merong black pero limited lang.
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saan po ung sgt?and how much do they sell it?
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saan po ung sgt?and how much do they sell it?
THE HOME THEATER, Ground Floor of Prince Tower, Tordesillas corner Bautista, Salcedo Village, Makati City ( almost at the back of the Makati Sports Club ). Benta nila below 6k may kasama pang HDMI cable at pwede ka na ding manghingi ng libreng CD ;D, sabihin mo referred ka ni Marvin ::) Bilisan mo kasi huli kong punta last week sampu na lang yung black na DV-600AV-S
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he he he, meron pala nun dun. madalas kong madaanan yung pag nagbabayad ako sa bank...
ank kaso ala pa akong budget :(
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ask ko lang .... if i were to get a dvd player with the purpose of getting good upconverted video, can i go for the dv400 instead?
read that the difference between the dv400 and the dv600 is the sacd feature only.
pareho lang ba sila ng image quality or mas better upconverting player talaga ang dv600?
thanks uli.
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ask ko lang .... if i were to get a dvd player with the purpose of getting good upconverted video, can i go for the dv400 instead?
read that the difference between the dv400 and the dv600 is the sacd feature only.
pareho lang ba sila ng image quality or mas better upconverting player talaga ang dv600?
thanks uli.
mas maganda ang upconversion ng 600 kasi mas advance ang chip na gamit, if im not mistaken parehong mediatek chip pero mas advance ang sa 600.
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Mabuhay 600AV owners. One of the best players to.
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Maganda rin ung black version nito. Check it at sights and sounds.
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6k at SGT 8)
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Maganda rin ung black version nito.
Yes indeed!
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/blkpioneer.jpg)
By price and performance? This is "the best dvd player" today so far. IMHO ;)
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For those who owned this 600 or other upscaling player, can you give me a ratio (%) on how well it improved the PQ compared to your regular player? Kindly include the connection you used. TIA
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as compared to a regular 480p player the difference is noticeable at least 50% improvement. Pero notice ko it still depends mostly on the DVD (bitrate). But as compared to my Samsung HD845 upconvert thru component not much improvement if any (DV-600 thru HDMI) ;)
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For those who owned this 600 or other upscaling player, can you give me a ratio (%) on how well it improved the PQ compared to your regular player? Kindly include the connection you used. TIA
On a 32" LCD... i can't point out the difference between upscaled (1080p) via HDMI vs. standard (480p) via component... baka on larger LCD's dun kita masyado difference
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i noticed din now mas madali ng mag power on yung unit ko as compared to when it was new. Before mga 10 seconds now takes shorter time ;D
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On a 32" LCD... i can't point out the difference between upscaled (1080p) via HDMI vs. standard (480p) via component... baka on larger LCD's dun kita masyado difference
probably puwede mo try set yung DV 600 sa 480p then compare with your regular progressive DVD player set also at 480p and see kung may difference din.
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as compared to a regular 480p player the difference is noticeable at least 50% improvement.
Wow! 50%? that is a huge leap in PQ! What's your screen size bro?
Pero notice ko it still depends mostly on the DVD (bitrate)
What's your referrence material?
But as compared to my Samsung HD845 upconvert thru component not much improvement if any (DV-600 thru HDMI)
Have you tried using component iso HDMI on the 600?
Thanks Chief! ;)
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On a 32" LCD... i can't point out the difference between upscaled (1080p) via HDMI vs. standard (480p) via component... baka on larger LCD's dun kita masyado difference
You mean sir you are using 32" and 600 upscaled at 1080p using HDMI yet you do not notice the difference? So what benefit do you get from the 600? Thanks sir. ;)
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Wow! 50%? that is a huge leap in PQ! What's your screen size bro?
What's your referrence material?
Have you tried using component iso HDMI on the 600?
Thanks Chief! ;)
42" Plasma, if you use Budget DVD's the PQ will not be as good as movie using DVD9. Yung Cars DVD is very very good when using the Pio 600 as compared to using a normal DVD player. Mas buhay yung color using Pio 600 although have not tried to compare it with my Cars BD copy. Although I have tried The Rock Criterion and compare it with The Rock BD and I would say ok na din yung DVD copy. Although mas maganda details ng BD ;)
I have not tried using component sa Pio 600, kasi as far as i know it only upscale using HDMI. I have tried playing around the default setting 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p and nagiiba yung picture quality and at times pati yung screen size.
Mayron lang times na when I use the Pio 600 hindi napupuno yung width nung screen. I don't know the reason why this happens, what i do is i turn unit off and turn it on again and most of the time na resolve yung problem. Also mayron ako na experience upon turning the unit on yung logo ng Pioneer hindi reddish pink yung color and when i played the movie parang black & white ???
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For those who owned this 600 or other upscaling player, can you give me a ratio (%) on how well it improved the PQ compared to your regular player? Kindly include the connection you used. TIA
on a regular TV no difference at all. On a bigger (42" and up) TV with HD capability using HDMI you will see a difference. mas sharper ang image. cant put an accurate ratio but given the price its well worth the improvement that it brings.
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Okay, so must be HDMI, if component not much. thanks
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Hi, anyone knows kung san makakabili ng black version nito? Ive been to The Home Theater yesterday at ubos na daw. Papalitan na daw ito ng bagong model, which is DV-610AV. I just dunno kung meron din black sa ganitong model. Maganda sana black para match sa setup ko.
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I write divx avi files to a flash drive, and the player plays them just fine from usb port.
But when I copy the same files to a DVD (data dvd), the player wont recognize the files and I only get a message that the disc cannot be played.
I read that the player can play divx movies from usb port or from cd and dvd.
What might be wrong?
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what software are you using in burning it to your dvd?
try neo software
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It does not matter what software I use, or what brand of blank DVD I use, I tried it all.
The DV-400 is supposed to be able to play avi files (DivX) form a) usb or b) DVD media.
It plays them from USB just fine, but not from DVD.
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Hi! How do you play divx files in the DV400 using a flash drive? TIA
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Hi! How do you play divx files in the DV400 using a flash drive? TIA
just copy your movie files on your USB, insert it on the player, then press USB from the remote. ;)
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just copy your movie files on your USB, insert it on the player, then press USB from the remote. ;)
OK. I'll try that. Thanks!
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It does not matter what software I use, or what brand of blank DVD I use, I tried it all.
The DV-400 is supposed to be able to play avi files (DivX) form a) usb or b) DVD media.
It plays them from USB just fine, but not from DVD.
I burned my DVD Data via NTI CD/DVD Maker 7 and plays perfectly fine. Your player should display "MPEG" when it reads the disc. Try playing on your settings, baka dun lang ang problem.
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Downloaded movies via the web, my dv400 played both versions on the usb and on the burned dvd,...
either the player is malfunctioning or something is wrong with the dvd writer that the player cannot read it..
just a guess though....
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Downloaded movies via the web, my dv400 played both versions on the usb and on the burned dvd,...
either the player is malfunctioning or something is wrong with the dvd writer that the player cannot read it..
just a guess though....
I have 2 of them, and both are doing exactly the same.
I used Nero to burn them to a data DVD. I tried DVD+R and DVD-R, and closed the session, but no success.
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magkano na po ngayon and can it play pi***dvd?
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magkano na po ngayon and can it play pi***dvd?
yes it can, got mine for 6k, i think pa ubos na ito sa mga suking av stores.
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ask ko lang malaki ba difference nito compared sa progressive scan with component cables?
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ask ko lang malaki ba difference nito compared sa progressive scan with component cables?
i'd say theoretically yes, sd materials are encoded at 480i, progressive scan makes it 480p (progressive). by using hdmi to upscale to 720p or even 1080i or p will definitely make a difference in pq. that's why its a minor upgrade for a lot of members here, specially for those who have a lot of dvd discs, breathing new life to their old collection. ;D
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would i be able to notice the difference on a 32" lcd tv or only for 40" and above?
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would i be able to notice the difference on a 32" lcd tv or only for 40" and above?
i would say very slight on a 32" and bigger difference for "40 and above. i suggest you bring some of your favorite dvds and audition it so you will know really if its something for you or not. but investing in a player that can improve your old dvd collection is not a bad idea, specially when time comes when you have to buy a bigger panel. ;) ;) ;)
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Try watching HD 720p encoded files divx can't play.
I think this player not supported HD movies due to
limitation of the chipset. Upscalling lang talaga.
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Should this player be set already in 1080 or it will upscale automatically?
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Should this player be set already in 1080 or it will upscale automatically?
should be set in the player's video settings.
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is this dvd player region locked or region free?
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should be set in the player's video settings.
Should I set it in 1080p irregardless of disc?
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Should I set it in 1080p irregardless of disc?
dvd are encoded in 480i, thats why the first big leap in pq was when dvd players featured the progressive scan which made the 480 interlaced (i) disc to 480 progressive (p), does improving quality. now with the advent of dvd upscalers through hdmi connection, in theory, this same 480i disc can now be upscaled to roughly any resolution you want (480p, 576i or p, 720p, 1080i or p) provided your tv/panel/screen and upscaler supports the resolution.
with the dv 600, you can upscale to 1080p (just set it on the settings page). but based on my research here its way better to set it to the resolution that is closest to your tv/panel/screen's native resolution. so even though my lcd supports 1080p, i set my player to 720p since its native resolution is 768. this stops the tv/panel/screen's internal scaler from having to downscale the dvd upscaler's 1080p picture to the tv/panel/screen's native resolution.
so in my experience, going directly to 720p looks cleaner than setting it at 1080p. but, if you have a full hd panel. then go ahead and set it to 1080p and enjoy your old dvds like never before. ;D
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is this dvd player region locked or region free?
make sure if you purchase one that you get the region freed player already, some stores only sell r1 or r2 players which defeats the purpose of us buying this upscaler, region freeing it after is a challenge for this dv-600. so make sure its already freed when you buy it. bring a r1 r2 and r3 disc when you buy to test it. i did. ;D
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assuming ill be using a 32" lcd tv, in what settings should i set the resolution? 720p?
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assuming ill be using a 32" lcd tv, in what settings should i set the resolution? 720p?
depends on your 32" lcd, because i think there are some samsung lcd which were launched recently that are already full hd meaning 1080 native resolution. look at your panel's manual and you will see at the specifications on what its native resolution is, its usually either 768 or 1080 anyway, so if you have a 768 then set it to 720p and if you have 1080 then set it to 1080.
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so I should set it to 720p for the PV8?
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make sure if you purchase one that you get the region freed player already, some stores only sell r1 or r2 players which defeats the purpose of us buying this upscaler, region freeing it after is a challenge for this dv-600. so make sure its already freed when you buy it. bring a r1 r2 and r3 disc when you buy to test it. i did. ;D
Abenson claim their DV 600 are already region free
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so I should set it to 720p for the PV8?
based on specs, the pv8 can accept 1080p, but native its 1024 x 768. i would suggest that you just set it to 720p, but you can try both settings and see for yourself which is your preference. iba kasi ang plasma, if you look at an lg 32" plasma thread here, its a native 480 plasma, but its pq is so good that it looks like a full hd panel. so as i said, try it on both 720 and 1080, your eyes be the judge. goodluck. ;)
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would it be better to get this and a separate amp 5.1? or get a htib instead?
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would it be better to get this and a separate amp 5.1? or get a htib instead?
separates are always better, better to add, better to upgrade and etc. yun lang nga with an htib you get it all na, while if you get dv600, hanap ka ng receiver mo, tapos speakers pa and sub. but as everyone here will attest, if you have the dough, thats the joy of this hobby, hunting for gears, buying then, setting them up and using them.
its really up to you, depends on your needs. but definitely quality will be better to go separates. ;D
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based on specs, the pv8 can accept 1080p, but native its 1024 x 768. i would suggest that you just set it to 720p, but you can try both settings and see for yourself which is your preference. iba kasi ang plasma, if you look at an lg 32" plasma thread here, its a native 480 plasma, but its pq is so good that it looks like a full hd panel. so as i said, try it on both 720 and 1080, your eyes be the judge. goodluck. ;)
thanks! :)
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separates are always better, better to add, better to upgrade and etc. yun lang nga with an htib you get it all na, while if you get dv600, hanap ka ng receiver mo, tapos speakers pa and sub. but as everyone here will attest, if you have the dough, thats the joy of this hobby, hunting for gears, buying then, setting them up and using them.
its really up to you, depends on your needs. but definitely quality will be better to go separates. ;D
That's what I'm planning to do that's why got the DV600 only first. Besides, can't maximize the use of an htib as of now coz the kids are still with us in the bedroom
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That's what I'm planning to do that's why got the DV600 only first. Besides, can't maximize the use of an htib as of now coz the kids are still with us in the bedroom
ayos yan sir, this hobby of ours is not a race anyway, take time to research and see which are the stuff you really need and if it fits your budget, if you really want the best then you have to save more. kaya mas masarap. ;D goodluck on your hunt.
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ayos yan sir, this hobby of ours is not a race anyway, take time to research and see which are the stuff you really need and if it fits your budget, if you really want the best then you have to save more. kaya mas masarap. ;D goodluck on your hunt.
thanks sir! kaya lang I'm beginning to feel the pinch of the dreaded sars now ;D
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Abenson claim their DV 600 are already region free
afaik all dv600 are region free..
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separates are always better, better to add, better to upgrade and etc. yun lang nga with an htib you get it all na, while if you get dv600, hanap ka ng receiver mo, tapos speakers pa and sub. but as everyone here will attest, if you have the dough, thats the joy of this hobby, hunting for gears, buying then, setting them up and using them.
its really up to you, depends on your needs. but definitely quality will be better to go separates. ;D
problem lang mapapamahal ako kung separates. im tight on budget, besides di ako marunong pumili ng mga separate amps and receivers. :-\
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problem lang mapapamahal ako kung separates. im tight on budget, besides di ako marunong pumili ng mga separate amps and receivers. :-\
pero kakaibang ligaya pa rin ang midudulot sayo ng separates... especially pag na-complete mo na set-up mo.
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afaik all dv600 are region free..
i think some specialty av shops are selling r2 units. but yes, mostly are already region freed.
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problem lang mapapamahal ako kung separates. im tight on budget, besides di ako marunong pumili ng mga separate amps and receivers. :-\
as i said, its really up to you, mahirap talaga, specially you are pinoy dvd, you know going the separate route is better, but you have other factors to consider too. i think what you should ask yourself is this, how long do you think after you buy your htib will you be using the same set-up, if the answers 3-5 years, i think ok na to go that route, but if ang sagot mo is less than 3 years, i would suggest you go the separate route.
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i think ill be using this for 4 -5 years if its still not broke by that time ;D
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problem lang mapapamahal ako kung separates. im tight on budget, besides di ako marunong pumili ng mga separate amps and receivers. :-\
Looks like you already have your answer. I would also recommend going separates. Nevertheless try to window shop htib's, get the model numbers that catch your fancy...then research the net for reviews and then decide.
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since youre already aiming for htib .. get the panasonic tallboy with hdmi.. :D (pogi sa lahat ng htib na nakita ko)
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since youre already aiming for separates .. get the panasonic tallboy with hdmi.. :D (pogi sa lahat ng htib na nakita ko)
actually thats the htib what i had in mind )sc-pt465 model)
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actually thats the htib what i had in mind )sc-pt465 model)
pm jeff aka nemesis91 .. he has that on sale . . :)
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Meron po ba talaga last memory eto? It will start on the last scene you watched? Is there a way to disable this function?
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Meron po ba talaga last memory eto? It will start on the last scene you watched? Is there a way to disable this function?
afaik its the way you turn off your player .. like pressing the stop buttong twice .. or something like that ..
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Meron po ba talaga last memory eto? It will start on the last scene you watched? Is there a way to disable this function?
i second that ninjababez, press stop twice before ejecting the tray's content to begin from the start. if you press stop once and play it back again, it will start from the last scene where you stopped.
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i second that ninjababez, press stop twice before ejecting the tray's content to begin from the start. if you press stop once and play it back again, it will start from the last scene where you stopped.
i third that, in addition... napansin ko lang na it have an effect on the movie currently being played if the memory capacity is full (5 movies in resume memory) the effect is nag skip yung picture/screen but the sound is normal... so you have to press stop twice to stop resume function.
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Thanks for the replies. ano po ba dapat ilagay sa play mode? A-B repeat?
Ano po BRN sa video adjust?
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Thanks for the replies. ano po ba dapat ilagay sa play mode? A-B repeat?
Ano po BRN sa video adjust?
dont touch that dial .. ;D
im kidding ... im not so sure about this cause i dont have my player here with me anymore to confirm it .. but iirc the a-b repeat is when you want to watch point a to point b of a movie .. like if you want to watch that scene over and over .. i usually do this on sword fights .. :)
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pare pareho lang ba basta upscaling dvd player? i just got a panasonic sc-pt465 htib. parang wala akong napansin na difference sa dvd with component cables. or talagang di m mapansin kasi 32" lang ung lcd?
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pare pareho lang ba basta upscaling dvd player? i just got a panasonic sc-pt465 htib. parang wala akong napansin na difference sa dvd with component cables. or talagang di m mapansin kasi 32" lang ung lcd?
have you tried setting it to 1080p? 720p? or 1080i?
im thinking youre still running it at 480p thats why youre not seeing any difference and afaik maximum output for component is 720p/1080i .. :)
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Should I set the DV600 to 720p or 1080p when watching dvds? My plasma is 42PV8
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Should I set the DV600 to 720p or 1080p when watching dvds? My plasma is 42PV8
when we were using pv70 we set it at 1080p sometimes at 720p ..
but most of the time 1080p :D
there are times when 720p looks better than 1080p .. iirc 720p is the native resolution of pv70 and pv8 :)
(you can correct me if im wrong) ;D ;D
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when we were using pv70 we set it at 1080p sometimes at 720p ..
but most of the time 1080p :D
there are times when 720p looks better than 1080p .. iirc 720p is the native resolution of pv70 and pv8 :)
(you can correct me if im wrong) ;D ;D
i agree, i personally think setting it closest to your panels native resolution is the best way to go. so in this case 720p is just about right.
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in my personal taste i always use 1080p, i always compare between 720p and 1080p in the end i choose 1080p (dun ako masaya eh)
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in my personal taste i always use 1080p, i always compare between 720p and 1080p in the end i choose 1080p (dun ako masaya eh)
our eyes is alwyas the best judge of what we want to see. ;)
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Thanks for the replies. Ff-up queston: Can I set it to 1080p irregardless of what dvd movie I'm watching?
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Thanks for the replies. Ff-up queston: Can I set it to 1080p irregardless of what dvd movie I'm watching?
yup. :), so all dvds you play will be upscaled to 1080p.
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Thanks for the replies. Ff-up queston: Can I set it to 1080p irregardless of what dvd movie I'm watching?
Yes, kung saan ka masaya. ;D
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Yes, kung saan ka masaya. ;D
htpc ;)
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silly question, di ba meron usb tong player? usb flash drive lang ba ang pwede isaksak dun or pwede din ang hdd?
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Pwede HDD but usually FAT32 ang format...
Di lahat nag portable USB HDD na pang laptop ay gagana.
Sa experience ko kasi di kaya ng power ng pio DV600 kaya
i used the 2 in 1 usb cable. yung isa sa data at yung isa power.
Naka connect sa usb ng laptop...
O baka may problema lang yung HDD enclosure ko.
O di ko pa try kasi yung mga branded na USB HDD for laptop eh!
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Sa akin baligtad. Try Divx (2Gig) in usb cannot play.
Try Divx (2Gig) in DVD Data ok naman..
Pero pioneer DV-600AV ang player ko...
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Pwede HDD but usually FAT32 ang format...
Di lahat nag portable USB HDD na pang laptop ay gagana.
Sa experience ko kasi di kaya ng power ng pio DV600 kaya
i used the 2 in 1 usb cable. yung isa sa data at yung isa power.
Naka connect sa usb ng laptop...
O baka may problema lang yung HDD enclosure ko.
O di ko pa try kasi yung mga branded na USB HDD for laptop eh!
WD passport works (2.5)
i havent tried my 1tb wd my book yet
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I connect a Fujitsu Handydrive 160GB portable HDD and yes, the DV600 seems unable to power the drive on its own. So what i do is supply power to the drive either via connecting the provided usb cable into the drive's power socket then connect to my laptop, or connect to the outlet using a usb power adapter.
I have another generic 40GB portable HDD and this can be powered by the DV600 on its own. Both HDDs are FAT32.
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hmm baka defective mga units nyo? did you check it sa shop before you bought it ba? ako kasi i brought my USB loaded with movies and I tried it sa store before i bought the player.. ;)
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Thanks for the replies mga sirs! Very informative talaga PDVD because bec of members like you who are willing to share their knowledge ;D
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Thanks for the replies mga sirs! Very informative talaga PDVD because bec of members like you who are willing to share their knowledge ;D
nahh .. wala lang magawa sa office ;)
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Yesterday my Pio 400 displayed "no disc" everytime I put a DVD in it. Tried different titles but it cannot read the discs. Actually I had this serviced already months ago at the service center with the same problem. They changed an IC to fix it. It was a good thing it was under warranty back then. Now, the problem is out again and my unit is out of the warranty already. >:(
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Hi sir,...
I think that unit is considered a dead unit na,...
Had owned a lot of players and pag nagka-problema na talaga at nasimulan
ng maoperahan, nagpapabalik balik na lang ang sakit nya,...
The worse part of having a player with intermittent problem is yung makasira pa siya ng disc...
good luck sir,..
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Yesterday my Pio 400 displayed "no disc" everytime I put a DVD in it. Tried different titles but it cannot read the discs. Actually I had this serviced already months ago at the service center with the same problem. They changed an IC to fix it. It was a good thing it was under warranty back then. Now, the problem is out again and my unit is out of the warranty already. >:(
how old is the dvd player?
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Hi sir,...
I think that unit is considered a dead unit na,...
Had owned a lot of players and pag nagka-problema na talaga at nasimulan
ng maoperahan, nagpapabalik balik na lang ang sakit nya,...
The worse part of having a player with intermittent problem is yung makasira pa siya ng disc...
good luck sir,..
Hmmm...is it time to buy a new player? I tried bringing it to an electronics repair center nearby and they told me that the lens was busted already and needs to be replaced. The problem is that the lens used in generic players wouldn't fit the dv400 and needs to be serviced by Pioneer. Although I haven't brought it yet to Pioneer, I just fear that the lens replacement cost would have a little difference than just buying a new one.
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how old is the dvd player?
1 year and a month as of today....
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Ganyan din nangyari sa HTib ko pina service ko sa pioneer dahil nahihirapan mag read ng dvd na matagal na nakatago. Pinalitan yun lens ng pioneer ilan buwan lang bumalik na uli ang sira. mas maganda pa na bumili ka ng bago uli. Tsaka bumili din ako ng Generic DVD player (orange) para sa kids ko so far tibay mag 2 years na lupit pa din bumasa ng disc kahit puro gasgas... ;D ;D ;D
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natry mo na gumamit ng lens cleaner?
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ano ang maximum capacity ng usb flash drive na pwedeng gumana dito?
is this applicable for all dvd players with usb slot? or for this model only?
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iirc there was someone who used a 160gb external HDD and with the size of the flash drives available right now .. all should work .. ;)
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Should I set the DV600 to 720p or 1080p when watching dvds? My plasma is 42PV8
If you set your Pio DV600 to 720p or 1080p, the player is doing the upconversion of your dvd movie. But the 720p setting is better choice because you will only do one upconversion process done by DV600. On the 1080p setting, your DV600 will upconvert to 1080p then will be downconverted by your PV8 because PV8 cannot directly read 1080p since it has 720p native res panel only. The norms is, better if less conversion being made so less adulteration of the original signal.
But based on my experince (mine is DV600 and PV70) the best setting is DV600 outputting 450p via HDMI to my PV70. In this setup, my DV600 is not upscaling the DVD signal, it only deinterlaces it and directly output the 450p DVD native res to my PV70. My PV70 is doing the upconversion to 720p using its intrnal Vreal2 upconverter engine (720p is the native res of PV70 panel, like your PV8). This for me is the preferred setting because the PV70's Vreal engine upscaler is much better than the DV600's generic Mediatech upconverter.
Try the above settings and observe closely the fonts of your DV600's menu; you will notice big difference in font's clarity. Also, set the the DV600's settings to all 0's and Normal and do the image adjustments in your PV8 only.
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If you set your Pio DV600 to 720p or 1080p, the player is doing the upconversion of your dvd movie. But the 720p setting is better choice because you will only do one upconversion process done by DV600. On the 1080p setting, your DV600 will upconvert to 1080p then will be downconverted by your PV8 because PV8 cannot directly read 1080p since it has 720p native res panel only. The norms is, better if less conversion being made so less adulteration of the original signal.
But based on my experince (mine is DV600 and PV70) the best setting is DV600 outputting 450p via HDMI to my PV70. In this setup, my DV600 is not upscaling the DVD signal, it only deinterlaces it and directly output the 450p DVD native res to my PV70. My PV70 is doing the upconversion to 720p using its intrnal Vreal2 upconverter engine (720p is the native res of PV70 panel, like your PV8). This for me is the preferred setting because the PV70's Vreal engine upscaler is much better than the DV600's generic Mediatech upconverter.
Try the above settings and observe closely the fonts of your DV600's menu; you will notice big difference in font's clarity. Also, set the the DV600's settings to all 0's and Normal and do the image adjustments in your PV8 only.
brader mas ok yung 450p settings sa pioneer compare sa 720p?
ask ko lang kung same pa din settings mo sa pana
The player's video settings were adjusted to "0" or default, but the BNR (Block Noise Reduction) was set to 'Yes". Video setting were done on the display only. This is to minimize over processing of the video image.
For reference by users of Pana 42PV70, here are my display's video settings:
a. Mode: Cinema
b. Contrast: 70
c. Brightness: 64
d. Color: 38
e. Sharpness: 70
f. Color Temp: Cool
g. All other setting are left untouched in default.
thanks
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If you set your Pio DV600 to 720p or 1080p, the player is doing the upconversion of your dvd movie. But the 720p setting is better choice because you will only do one upconversion process done by DV600. On the 1080p setting, your DV600 will upconvert to 1080p then will be downconverted by your PV8 because PV8 cannot directly read 1080p since it has 720p native res panel only. The norms is, better if less conversion being made so less adulteration of the original signal.
But based on my experince (mine is DV600 and PV70) the best setting is DV600 outputting 450p via HDMI to my PV70. In this setup, my DV600 is not upscaling the DVD signal, it only deinterlaces it and directly output the 450p DVD native res to my PV70. My PV70 is doing the upconversion to 720p using its intrnal Vreal2 upconverter engine (720p is the native res of PV70 panel, like your PV8). This for me is the preferred setting because the PV70's Vreal engine upscaler is much better than the DV600's generic Mediatech upconverter.
Try the above settings and observe closely the fonts of your DV600's menu; you will notice big difference in font's clarity. Also, set the the DV600's settings to all 0's and Normal and do the image adjustments in your PV8 only.
thanks sir ;D
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does anyone know how this would fare against the new toshiba XD-E500?
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does anyone know how this would fare against the new toshiba XD-E500?
base on the upscaler shootout done by streetsmart and the other members ..
i think the tosh is better ..
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Thanks for the reply. Magkano kaya ang E500 when it hits manila? Much more expensive than the 610s? and do you think the Toshiba XD-E500 can play p*rated DVDs as good as the pioneer 410/610 ?
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base on the upscaler shootout done by streetsmart and the other members ..
i think the tosh is better ..
actually hindi kasama itong player (tosh) sa shootout. and since this is being compared to oppo in the avsforum, i can safely say this is better than pioneer 410/610 series. problem is this player was launched stateside only. so technically region lock pa siya, and news coming out regarding region freeing hack on this player is still sketchy at best. kaya bringing it here is a risk someone has to take, worst that could happen you get a player that can only play your jack sparrows and r1 dvds but not r3s.
last price on amazon is 137$ x 46.5 = P6,370.5 + (aprrox) P3,000 shipping (via jack) = P9,370.5
wait nalang natin mga december sabi nila baba ito to 100$ ;D ;D ;D
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hehe yeah. sana bumaba ng $100 yung price and sana it can play all the p*rated DVDs ;D
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actually hindi kasama itong player (tosh) sa shootout. and since this is being compared to oppo in the avsforum, i can safely say this is better than pioneer 410/610 series. problem is this player was launched stateside only. so technically region lock pa siya, and news coming out regarding region freeing hack on this player is still sketchy at best. kaya bringing it here is a risk someone has to take, worst that could happen you get a player that can only play your jack sparrows and r1 dvds but not r3s.
last price on amazon is 137$ x 46.5 = P6,370.5 + (aprrox) P3,000 shipping (via jack) = P9,370.5
wait nalang natin mga december sabi nila baba ito to 100$ ;D ;D ;D
yung shootout nyo nga yung ginawa kong basis .. ;D
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Mine can play pi*** and region free BUT cannot play downloaded movies. Ganun po ba talaga?
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Mine can play pi*** and region free BUT cannot play downloaded movies. Ganun po ba talaga?
you can play downloaded movies basta hindi Hi-def rips, it can only play up to standard def (720x480)
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Mine can play pi*** and region free BUT cannot play downloaded movies. Ganun po ba talaga?
mpgs and divx (avi) should play without problems.
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Mine can play pi*** and region free BUT cannot play downloaded movies. Ganun po ba talaga?
yup... it will only play standard def (480i) movies either divx or avi
factor in also the storage devise... it affects the data transfer sa dv 600 so possible na may stuttering if di maganda storage devise
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Just got a Pana PV8 to match my DV-600AV-S. It's the first time i use HDMI since i was just using a flat CRT before. After i set 720p (only) I can see a slow refresh bar while playing a DVD. Tried to use a higher resolution (1080p) my video screen turns black and back to screen... kinda like on and off but no the power. Any idea? I'm bringing my player later to where i bought it (months months back) to test it in their plasma. You may have an idea whats causing this, thanks.
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yup... it will only play standard def (480i) movies either divx or avi
factor in also the storage devise... it affects the data transfer sa dv 600 so possible na may stuttering if di maganda storage devise
thanks. ok na ;D
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Hi,
Im having problems with this dvd player. It couldn't read my usb drive. dti naman it reads them, ngyon ayaw na... ngdisplay lang ng usb-data then wala n. hindi na ngload un select screen. anyone who encountered this problem?
thanks in advance.
~pao
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Hi,
Im having problems with this dvd player. It couldn't read my usb drive. dti naman it reads them, ngyon ayaw na... ngdisplay lang ng usb-data then wala n. hindi na ngload un select screen. anyone who encountered this problem?
thanks in advance.
~pao
nangyari din sa akin ito, namimili sya ng usb drive...meron akong 4GB usb drive from cdrking, nung una ok sya, ngayon ayaw na mabasa, akala ko sira na ung usb slot ng dv600 ko, kaso nung ginamit ko ung 1GB usb drive, ayun nabasa naman with no problems, so malamang namimili ng usb drive ung dv600...im thinking of re-formatting my 4GB usb drive baka sakaling mag ok uli
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nangyari din sa akin ito, namimili sya ng usb drive...meron akong 4GB usb drive from cdrking, nung una ok sya, ngayon ayaw na mabasa, akala ko sira na ung usb slot ng dv600 ko, kaso nung ginamit ko ung 1GB usb drive, ayun nabasa naman with no problems, so malamang namimili ng usb drive ung dv600...im thinking of re-formatting my 4GB usb drive baka sakaling mag ok uli
ok, thanks sir! try k cia later. :)
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tried using a 40gb hdd formatted on fat32 on the usb slot. ayaw gumana :(
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kailngn b ntfs un format nun HD para mabasa nia? or fat32?
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kailngn b ntfs un format nun HD para mabasa nia? or fat32?
fat32
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fat32
natry ko kahit fat32 format di nya marecognize ung hdd :(
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natry ko kahit fat32 format di nya marecognize ung hdd :(
thats the standard bro eh, either theres a problem with the player or the hdd .. :D
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working naman pag usb flash drive
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working naman pag usb flash drive
as ive said there is a problem somewhere .. like every other electronics .. for some reason some brand/parts work, and some doesnt .. :(
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For HDD, use only a USB Thumb drive or the 3.5 HDD with it's own external power supply.
The Pioneer 600avs cannot fully power the 2.5 HDD....hence, will just continue to probe the source.
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For HDD, use only a USB Thumb drive or the 3.5 HDD with it's own external power supply.
The Pioneer 600avs cannot fully power the 2.5 HDD....hence, will just continue to probe the source.
thanks Alfie .. i never thought of this .. same as some front panel usb (local casing) and laptops :(
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Just got a Pana PV8 to match my DV-600AV-S. It's the first time i use HDMI since i was just using a flat CRT before. After i set 720p (only) I can see a slow refresh bar while playing a DVD. Tried to use a higher resolution (1080p) my video screen turns black and back to screen... kinda like on and off but no the power. Any idea? I'm bringing my player later to where i bought it (months months back) to test it in their plasma. You may have an idea whats causing this, thanks.
Please try another known good HDMI cable.
Good luck. :)
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I think i got a unit with a bad upscaler chip. Already tried a different cable on a different display. Bad thing is, after the warranty period that i knew my upscaler is not working well. :(
Please try another known good HDMI cable.
Good luck. :)
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I think i got a unit with a bad upscaler chip. Already tried a different cable on a different display. Bad thing is, after the warranty period that i knew my upscaler is not working well. :(
naku sad naman kung sira yung upscaler chip :(
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Update:
Got a latest firmware (YGC7C12A) from the internet and upgraded my unit but still no luck. Will have Pioneer check it nalang. :(
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Update:
Got a latest firmware (YGC7C12A) from the internet and upgraded my unit but still no luck. Will have Pioneer check it nalang. :(
Sir ano benefits pag upgrade ka ng FW.
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Bro, not much info on what's new. Just tried my luck if my upscaling will work...
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pero kakaibang ligaya pa rin ang midudulot sayo ng separates... especially pag na-complete mo na set-up mo.
Korak!
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at iba ring klaseng puyat sa kakaisip kung anong gears ang pipiliin mo..daig mo pa highschool na "delayed" ang gf. ;D
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Anyone tried connecting a 1TB WD My Book Essential to the usb slot? m planning to get this huge storage drive..
help me guys.. :) thanks..
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Guys, does your dv600 have trouble playing pi***BD-DVD9 disc? Mine had trouble playing some of those disc wherein it will stop in some scenes ???
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Guys, does your dv600 have trouble playing pi***BD-DVD9 disc? Mine had trouble playing some of those disc wherein it will stop in some scenes ???
mine plays those type of disc just fine, maybe its just the encode of the discs.
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baka kelangan lang ng disc cleaner?
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tried the Philipps dvd lens cleaner pero ayaw pa din. selected scenes in some titles lang naman. sa inyo po ba walang problema in all pi** BD-DVD9 dvds?
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With liquid ba yung lens cleaner mo?
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I use Phillips lens cleaner which is highly recommended here
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tried the Philipps dvd lens cleaner pero ayaw pa din. selected scenes in some titles lang naman. sa inyo po ba walang problema in all pi** BD-DVD9 dvds?
Im experiencing this same problem, and mentioned it also in another thread. I use the same disc and played it on my sony ns76, and it played fine on the same scene. I don't know Im pretty frustrated with this player so far, but the pq is quite good naman. Tuloy I want to buy the xtreme hdmi player, para play all, read all :)..and just return this to my mom and dad :D
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tried the Philipps dvd lens cleaner pero ayaw pa din. selected scenes in some titles lang naman. sa inyo po ba walang problema in all pi** BD-DVD9 dvds?
No problem playing all pi----- bd-dvd9.. ;D ;D
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tried the Philipps dvd lens cleaner pero ayaw pa din. selected scenes in some titles lang naman. sa inyo po ba walang problema in all pi** BD-DVD9 dvds?
surg- Sa akin dalawang pioneer(696 & 600), kayang kaya parin ang mga iyan, hangang ngayon itong 600AV-S ko paborito niya ang Bluray blurayan na iyan, subukan mo na lang hanapin iyun' ZS ang product line, sa akin kasi, iyun' ang walang problema...pero pag, LG,LS problema rin. ;)
Pero kung may problema pa....eh....ganyan talaga ang Pioneer,palaging may lemon sa lens, iyun' nga' kaibigan kong si nerveblocker, bumigay din ang pioneer niya, pati service center inayawan. :P
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ganyan talaga ang Pioneer,palaging may lemon sa lens, iyun' nga' kaibigan kong si nerveblocker, bumigay din ang pioneer niya, pati service center inayawan. :P
I told you so panyero,...
ABC
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Anyone tried connecting a 1TB WD My Book Essential to the usb slot? m planning to get this huge storage drive..
help me guys.. :) thanks..
Tried it on both my 1TB Seagate and 500GB WD,... Both worked perfectly well via the USB port upfront,...
Cheers,..
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Update:
Got a latest firmware (YGC7C12A) from the internet and upgraded my unit but still no luck. Will have Pioneer check it nalang. :(
i have the same problem sa pio600 ko, na pa check mo na ba yung pio600 sa pioneer service center?
anong findings?
tia.
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@slayer:
where did you download the firmware?
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@jugoy
Did not bother to bring my unit sa service center. Pinagtiyagaan ko nalang yung 480p for DVDs coz i got a PCH instead. =)
@surg
http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/dv600.php?player=DV-600AV&question=Firmwares
Take extra care sa pag update ng firmware. Do it on your own risk.
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@jugoy
Did not bother to bring my unit sa service center. Pinagtiyagaan ko nalang yung 480p for DVDs coz i got a PCH instead. =)
@surg
http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/dv600.php?player=DV-600AV&question=Firmwares
Take extra care sa pag update ng firmware. Do it on your own risk.
thanks! :)
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@jugoy
Did not bother to bring my unit sa service center. Pinagtiyagaan ko nalang yung 480p for DVDs coz i got a PCH instead. =)
@surg
http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/dv600.php?player=DV-600AV&question=FirmwaresTake extra care sa pag update ng firmware. Do it on your own risk.
thanks for the site but I can't open it
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surg- Sa akin dalawang pioneer(696 & 600), kayang kaya parin ang mga iyan, hangang ngayon itong 600AV-S ko paborito niya ang Bluray blurayan na iyan, subukan mo na lang hanapin iyun' ZS ang product line, sa akin kasi, iyun' ang walang problema...pero pag, LG,LS problema rin. ;)
Pero kung may problema pa....eh....ganyan talaga ang Pioneer,palaging may lemon sa lens, iyun' nga' kaibigan kong si nerveblocker, bumigay din ang pioneer niya, pati service center inayawan. :P
thanks bro. tried the disc with LG and it played well. Now I know that I have to look for the product line first ;D
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http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/dv600.php?player=DV-600AV&question=Firmwares
Take extra care sa pag update ng firmware. Do it on your own risk.
may nakapag try na ba nito? mukhang nakakatakot dami warning...
sino kaya may lakas loob mag try? kung meron na feedback naman thanks
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Anyone tried connecting a 1TB WD My Book Essential to the usb slot? m planning to get this huge storage drive..
help me guys.. :) thanks..
have a 500GB WD My book connected. just make sure that it's in FAT32 format else it wont be recognised.
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Mga sirs:
Pacencya na sa noob question: Can I connect the Pio dv600 to the Pana Sc-PT465? Someone said kasi the upscaling function of the sc-pt465 is not as good as the Pio so i want to use the Pio as an upscaler and the sc-pt465 for its audio
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Mga sirs:
Pacencya na sa noob question: Can I connect the Pio dv600 to the Pana Sc-PT465? Someone said kasi the upscaling function of the sc-pt465 is not as good as the Pio so i want to use the Pio as an upscaler and the sc-pt465 for its audio
pwedeng pwede bro...
since u will be using ur Pana Sc-PT465 for audio... connect Pio dv600 either via analogue audio or digital optical :)
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pwedeng pwede bro...
since u will be using ur Pana Sc-PT465 for audio... connect Pio dv600 either via analogue audio or digital optical :)
thanks! :)
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otep, i upgraded mine.
may nakapag try na ba nito? mukhang nakakatakot dami warning...
sino kaya may lakas loob mag try? kung meron na feedback naman thanks
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surg- Sa akin dalawang pioneer(696 & 600), kayang kaya parin ang mga iyan, hangang ngayon itong 600AV-S ko paborito niya ang Bluray blurayan na iyan, subukan mo na lang hanapin iyun' ZS ang product line, sa akin kasi, iyun' ang walang problema...pero pag, LG,LS problema rin. ;)
Pero kung may problema pa....eh....ganyan talaga ang Pioneer,palaging may lemon sa lens, iyun' nga' kaibigan kong si nerveblocker, bumigay din ang pioneer niya, pati service center inayawan. :P
San ko makikita to? ??? TIA
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guys, how much is the pioneer dv-600 these days? where is the best shop to buy? ;D
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San ko makikita to? ??? TIA
Look for it in the Spine. ;)
Available where most such products are being sold. ;D
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guys, how much is the pioneer dv-600 these days? where is the best shop to buy? ;D
mahihirapan ka ng makakita nito, go for the dv-610 already. i think the 610 will be 6.5k siguro sa mga "suking" tindahan dito.
may nakita ako sa automatic ng dv600 pero 7.2k benta nila. too expensive. go for the 610 nalang. basta sa mga "suking" tindahan ka kumuha. ;D
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kung ok lang syo ang pre owned, madaming nagbebenta dito sa pinoydvd. search mo lang sa market place na section. :)
Look for it in the Spine. ;)
Available where most such products are being sold. ;D
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Look for it in the Spine. ;)
Available where most such products are being sold. ;D
Hehe Noted! ;)
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Question on the DV600 -- anong file format ang binabasa niya pag gumamit ka ng USB source? Napansin ko pag thumb/flash drive and ginagamit ko (1GB) walang problem. When I hooked my 300GB mobile drive ayaw na basahin yung HDD. FAT32 lang ba binbasa ng Pioneer?
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Question on the DV600 -- anong file format ang binabasa niya pag gumamit ka ng USB source? Napansin ko pag thumb/flash drive and ginagamit ko (1GB) walang problem. When I hooked my 300GB mobile drive ayaw na basahin yung HDD. FAT32 lang ba binbasa ng Pioneer?
Yun external HD ok NTFS file format ayaw din basahin convert ko siya ng FAT32 ok na... ;D ;D
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Sir meron na po ba nag update ng firmware ng pioneer dv 600 nila? ??? ???
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parang natakot ako mag upgrade nung nabasa ko yung link for upgrade :-* i guess ill just keep it as it is.
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otep, i upgraded mine.
hi sir feedback naman tungkol sa upgraded firmware ng dv600 mo...
anong nangyari?
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Question on the DV600 -- anong file format ang binabasa niya pag gumamit ka ng USB source? Napansin ko pag thumb/flash drive and ginagamit ko (1GB) walang problem. When I hooked my 300GB mobile drive ayaw na basahin yung HDD. FAT32 lang ba binbasa ng Pioneer?
The dvd player may not have enough to power your external hard drive. Try to connect your external hard drive to another power source. I use my DV600 with a 160GB Fujitsu external HDD that is powered using a USB adapter plugged in to the wall outlet... it works. FAT32 rin po dapat ang file format; NTFS will bot be recognized. Hope this helps! ;)
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Pero kung may problema pa....eh....ganyan talaga ang Pioneer,palaging may lemon sa lens, iyun' nga' kaibigan kong si nerveblocker, bumigay din ang pioneer niya, pati service center inayawan. :P
Just an update that I was able to have my Pioneer DV400 repaired by Love Electronics for P980. It was the spindle motor that had a problem which Pioneer Service Center wasn't able to fix considering that I brought it to them under the 1 year warranty period. Now I'm recommending Love Electronics. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
Pioneer Service Center...eto sa inyo (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/47.gif)
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Just an update that I was able to have my Pioneer DV400 repaired by Love Electronics for P980. It was the spindle motor that had a problem which Pioneer Service Center wasn't able to fix considering that I brought it to them under the 1 year warranty period. Now I'm recommending Love Electronics. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
Pioneer Service Center...eto sa inyo (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/47.gif)
bwaaaaahhhhhaaaaa
tinalo pa ng non braded repair center
congrats doc mel
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bwaaaaahhhhhaaaaa
tinalo pa ng non braded repair center
congrats doc mel
Onga ilang years din natengga eto sakin na white elephant na. Then I saw a Love Electronics shop near my wife's workplace habang nag-aantay. Ayun!
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I got a pre-owned DV-600AV-S from the marketplace sometime ago. Happy using it as my other universal player. Its capability of handling sacds, hybrids and dvd-audios is worth having this model and I have no complaints. ;D ;D ;D
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got a dv600av a few years back but i never tried the hdmi until yesterday. It did't work on my samsung and toshiba lcds using both a new cable and the cable used on my pioneer htib.
Any advise? Any good but reasonable service center in makat, in case this is a unit problem? TIA
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got a dv600av a few years back but i never tried the hdmi until yesterday. It did't work on my samsung and toshiba lcds using both a new cable and the cable used on my pioneer htib.
Any advise? Any good but reasonable service center in makat, in case this is a unit problem? TIA
just found out that this model is hdmi 1.2a while my TVs are 1.3. hope the software upgrade is not expensive
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Is it true that we can only play SACD using the 6ch analog inputs?
I have no problem with this..thanks to Burr brown chipset, the sound is really very transparent and open.
I really like this player. Hanggang ngayon di pa rin outdated.
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hi guys - where can I find the firmware upgrade for this player? Just bought a new LED tv and connected this player via HDMI, no display >:(