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sechiong · « **Reply #30 on:** Jan 20, 2007 at 06:53 AM »

Quote from: alvinthx2 on Jan 19, 2007 at 08:09 AM

Sechiong,

I would hope you can see the PTAE1000 at LIS this Sunday and next Sunday you can see my Hc5000 So that I can have an unbiased assessment of the PQ of both PJ's

yes i will i will, i will tell you ahead before sunday, thanks sir alvin.

Eric S. · « **Reply #31 on:** Apr 28, 2007 at 10:59 PM »

I read somewhere may $1000 MIR when u buy this thing. OK yan....less than $3K, 1080p ka na! A few more months I guess, less than $2K na....makakabili na ako ng dalawa

!!!

skylynx888 · « **Reply #32 on:** Apr 28, 2007 at 11:34 PM »

whats the current price for this piece?

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 02, 2007 at 06:39 PM »

182k yata

dale1075 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 13, 2007 at 11:10 PM »

Quote from: alvinthx2 on Nov 17, 2006 at 07:21 AM

Its 195k confirmed $:-\$

hay... but napakamahal projector sa pinas compared sa ibang bansa.
sana equal conversion ang price. :'(

dts-HD 3D · « **Reply #35 on:** May 24, 2007 at 02:18 AM »

Mura na yata yan, nasa $5,000 pa ito sa U.S. e

Pero sana bumaba pa bitin ang 720p sa HD $:-\$

ert · « **Reply #36 on:** May 30, 2007 at 08:41 AM »

alvinthx2: i'm planning to use ae1000 as my projector and i'm about to buy a projector screen motorized 106" tensioned da-lite..and question ko lng is ok lng ba yung screen fabric na kukunin ko is high contrast cinema vision (gain 1.1) or cinema vision (gain 1.3) or high power (2.

? thanks! hope you could help me..

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 30, 2007 at 11:33 AM »

Quote from: ert on May 30, 2007 at 08:41 AM

alvinthx2: i'm planning to use ae1000 as my projector and i'm about to buy a projector screen motorized 106" tensioned da-lite..and question ko lng is ok lng ba yung screen fabric na kukunin ko is high contrast cinema vision (gain 1.1) or cinema vision (gain 1.3) or high power (2.? thanks! hope you could help me..

High power is the way to go. Kasi after 300 hrs or so, bababa pa nang 30% yung light output nang ae1000. You can use your lamp al low power for the first 300 hrs, then when you notice a dimming of the picture , switch to high power. If you use 1.1 gain screen , you are limited to 80 inches, 1.3 maybe 90 inches. 2.8 around 120 inch.

ert · « **Reply #38 on:** May 30, 2007 at 03:01 PM »

Quote from: alvinthx2 on May 30, 2007 at 11:33 AM

High power is the way to go. Kasi after 300 hrs or so, bababa pa nang 30% yung light output nang ae1000. You can use your lamp al low power for the first 300 hrs, then when you notice a dimming of the picture , switch to high power. If you use 1.1 gain screen , you are limited to 80 inches, 1.3 maybe 90 inches. 2.8 around 120 inch.

okay thanks! kaso problem is mukhang wala atang high power screen ang da-lite tensioned electric 106" sayang..i'll try to ask..thanks!

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #39 on:** Jun 01, 2007 at 07:58 AM »

Compromise is to get a non-tensioned Dalite or get the M2500 screen from draper which has a 2.1 gain. Its the same material I use at home. I use a fixed screen but I think they have a tensioned motorized model with this material.

when you install the ae1000, do not place it out back. Maybe around 12 to 13 ft from the screen will do. You will loose maybe around 10% of its brightness from its wide mode instead of 45% if you are at the tele mode.

julma0112 · « **Reply #40 on:** Jun 01, 2007 at 09:02 AM »

Alvinthx,

I have been reading your posts and I find your comments very useful.

I wonder if I can also get your assistance. I Also have a Panasonic 1000 and recently got a Toshiba XA2. Now my problem is get a screen and of course room set-up and adjustments.

Is it possible for me to call you via phone?

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #41 on:** Jun 02, 2007 at 08:42 AM »

Quote from: julma0112 on Jun 01, 2007 at 09:02 AM

Alvinthx,

I have been reading your posts and I find your comments very useful.

I wonder if I can also get your assistance. I Also have a Panasonic 1000 and recently got a Toshiba XA2. Now my problem is get a screen and of course room set-up and adjustments.

Is it possible for me to call you via phone?

Sent you a PM

ert · « **Reply #42 on:** Jun 04, 2007 at 05:05 PM »

hi alvinthx2! i'm planning to buy a ae1000 na..and i would like to know where did you buy the ceiling mount? and how much? and what would be your recommended viewing distance sa ae1000 for a 106"? medyo nalili2 kasi ako sa projectorcentral.com thanks!

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #43 on:** Jun 05, 2007 at 08:09 AM »

Quote from: ert on Jun 04, 2007 at 05:05 PM

hi alvinthx2! i'm planning to buy a ae1000 na..and i would like to know where did you buy the ceiling mount? and how much? and what would be your recommended viewing distance sa ae1000 for a 106"? medyo nalili2 kasi ako sa projectorcentral.com thanks!

Ok, since you are set on getting the ae1000 and a screen size of 106 inch diagonal (92x52inch) 16:9 aspect ratio. The gain of the screen is very important. Some technical terms first, For a 106 inch screen which is around 33 sq ft in area you would need 430 to 775 lumens to have a illuminance of 12 to 22 footlamberts. This is the acceptable brightness that is the consensus of video experts. Below 12 ftL, the image will be a little dim, above 22 ftL, it will be very bright. Now for the ae1000, looking at the specs , it has 1000 lumens( almost all projectors are at least 1000 lumens at their brightest mode), so pasok siya if you will just get the manufacturer's data. But that is around 9000 K color temperature which is too blue. Lahat ay may blue tinge, hindi accurate ang colors. For the Panasonic, it is always the cinema 1 mode which is best. It's around 6900 to 7200k ( target color temperature is D65 or 6500k) but the light output drops to 295 to 400 lumens (depending on your lens zoom position). If you have a 1.3 gain screen and the PJ is at 11 ft from the screen, you will be happy with the PJ for the first 300 hours before the lamps output drops around 30% (400x1.3=520 and 520x.7= 364). As I have said before you need 430 lumens, for the first 300 hours OK ka, after 300 hours hindi na.

IN SHORT, you need a high gain screen, do not compromise that. As for the mount, I just used the ordinary PJ mount since after setup you will not touch it anymore. Your distance from the screen should be 10.3 to 20.8 ft, using a 106 inch screen. Viewing distance is 10 to 15 ft.

ert · « **Reply #44 on:** Jun 05, 2007 at 08:28 AM »

Quote from: alvinthx2 on Jun 05, 2007 at 08:09 AM

Ok, since you are set on getting the ae1000 and a screen size of 106 inch diagonal (92x52inch) 16:9 aspect ratio. The gain of the screen is very important. Some technical terms first, For a 106 inch screen which is around 33 sq ft in area you would need 430 to 775 lumens to have a illuminance of 12 to 22 footlamberts. This is the acceptable brightness that is the consensus of video experts. Below 12 ftL, the image will be a little dim, above 22 ftL, it will be very bright. Now for the ae1000, looking at the specs , it has 1000 lumens( almost all projectors are at least 1000 lumens at their brightest mode), so pasok siya if you will just get the manufacturer's data. But that is around 9000 K color temperature which is too blue. Lahat ay may blue tinge, hindi accurate ang colors. For the Panasonic, it is always the cinema 1 mode which is best. It's around 6900 to 7200k ( target color temperature is D65 or 6500k) but the light output drops to 295 to 400 lumens (depending on your lens zoom position). If you have a 1.3 gain screen and the PJ is at 11 ft from the screen, you will be happy with the PJ for the first 300 hours before the lamps output drops around 30% (400x1.3=520 and 520x.7= 364). As I have said before you need 430 lumens, for the first 300 hours OK ka, after 300 hours hindi na.

IN SHORT, you need a high gain screen, do not compromise that. As for the mount, I just used the ordinary PJ mount since after setup you will not touch it anymore. Your distance from the screen should be 10.3 to 20.8 ft, using a 106 inch screen. Viewing distance is 10 to 15 ft.

ok thanks so much for you help..i'm planing to put the projector around 12.5 feet from the screen..the screen height would be 52" from the floor...i was planning to use a high gain screen kaso wala na akong mahanap na okay..i'm about to get the high power sana kaso wala syang tensioned screen which is what i needed..so un..thanks ulit so much sa help..by the way, where did you buy the ordinary pj mount? how much is it? thanks!

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #45 on:** Jun 05, 2007 at 09:21 AM »

ask Ashley 3743620, tanong mo sa kanya kung may m2500 screen material siya(Draper) 2.1 gain nun.

ert · « **Reply #46 on:** Jun 05, 2007 at 04:39 PM »

Quote from: alvinthx2 on Jun 05, 2007 at 09:21 AM

ask Ashley 3743620, tanong mo sa kanya kung may m2500 screen material siya(Draper) 2.1 gain nun.

yes i've already talked to him..kaso mahal..nsa 100+k sya..yung bibilhin ko lng na dalite cosmo cinema vision 1.3gain its around 90k lng..hehe..how about the ceiling mount? where did you bought yours? how much is it? thanks!

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #47 on:** Jun 07, 2007 at 01:32 PM »

I made some calculations about the PJ/ Screen gain relationship of the Panasonic PT ae1000 and screen with different gains. The lumens data that I got are from the recent review of this PJ at Cine4home in Germany. This might serve as a guide to owners of this Projector and the maximum size of the screen that they are buying. I am not connected with any firm and these are just my recommendations. You might use them or I may be contradicted by your dealer. Either way, its your decision.

Mode: Cinema1
After 300 lamp hrs.
Screen Size Screen Size .
Zoom Position Tele Wide Screen Gain Tele - Wide Screen gain

70"- 92" 1.0 58"- 77" 1.0
79"-106" 1.3 66"-87" 1.3
100"-132" 2.1 84"-112" 2.1
116-152 2.8 97"-128" 2.8

The screen size is base on a light output of 12ftL which is the same light output as a good theatre. As you can see. For a NEW AE1000 a 92" inch screen is sufficient and will be satisfy everybody but after 300 hrs., using this screen will result in a dim picture. If you must get a cheap screen, do not get more than 78 inches. For the more popular 106 inch screen a gain of 2.1 is a must. You can use the low lamp mode in the initial 300 hrs and then switch to high mode when the lamp has settled down.

julma0112 · « **Reply #48 on:** Jun 08, 2007 at 12:58 PM »

Alvin,

Thanks for for your anaylysis.

In my case, since I am using a HD DVD player (toshiba xa2), will there be any difference in your calculation of ideal screen size and gain?

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #49 on:** Jun 08, 2007 at 06:04 PM »

Quote from: julma0112 on Jun 08, 2007 at 12:58 PM

Alvin,

Thanks for for your anaylysis.

In my case, since I am using a HD DVD player (toshiba xa2), will there be any difference in your calculation of ideal screen size and gain?

No, it will be true wether you use ordinary DVD or any HD source. I also am enjoying HD dvd since MAY of Last year (1st year anniversary na pala ako sa HD)

ert · « **Reply #50 on:** Jun 22, 2007 at 05:11 PM »

hi alvin! i have a question lang..if ever i'll be planning to use a panasonic ae1000 on a 106" 1.3gain the distance ng projector will be 12.5feet..ok na ba ito? medyo naguguluhan lng kasi ako using the projector calculator at projectorcentral kasi meron syang diagonal range and throw range nakaklito kasi un.. and i'd like to know if what should be your recommended height for the projector? yung ceiling ko kasi is around 8.5 feet would that be okay? and universal naman yung for bracket niya right? thanks ulit!

alvinthx2 · « **Reply #51 on:** Jun 24, 2007 at 02:45 PM »

Ok lang . Minimum distance using the PJ calculator is 10.3 ft. You will get a peak btightness of 9ftL using a 1.3 gain screen (according to Projector Central). Get it a high as possible and it should be level. Use the lens shift feature to square the PJ to the screen.