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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #930 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 01:21 PM »
naexperience nyo na ba sa pv70 on dark scenes yung biglang nagbabago yung brightness kasi na observe ko lang sakin pag dark scenes bigla nalang maglalight yung mga blacks ng 2sec tapos balik na agad sa black ulit everytime may dark scenes tinest ko na rin sa ibang dvd titles ganun pa rin halatang halata sya lalo pag patay ilaw.

yung pagkalight nya parang pag nag-adjust ka ng brightness ng 10-15% more


Try turning off all picture enhancements.

Kung ganun pa rin, sira siguro ang software ng TV mo.  Ask for a replacement.  I think it's similar to the Hitachi contrast fluctuation problem, a known defect on Hitachi plasmas:

Guys, I just noticed last night while watching Bourne Identity that there was indeed flickering on my Hitachi panel. The flickering occurs on dark scenes. Very strange. Care to shed some light into this matter? TIA. :)



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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #931 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 03:21 PM »

Try turning off all picture enhancements.

Kung ganun pa rin, sira siguro ang software ng TV mo.  Ask for a replacement.  I think it's similar to the Hitachi contrast fluctuation problem, a known defect on Hitachi plasmas:
 




ganun po ba? naku dapat pala maireport agad to? ok sir thanks for the advice but i'll check muna later all the settings bago ko report

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« Reply #932 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 03:50 PM »
nyek! pag pina replace ko pala to another break in period na naman then calibration ulit... huhuhu

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« Reply #933 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 05:12 PM »
Hula ko lang yun sir. 

Contrast fluctuation is a common defect in Hitachi plasmas, pero ngayon lang ako nakarinig ng ganyan sa Panasonic.

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« Reply #934 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 05:23 PM »
naexperience nyo na ba sa pv70 on dark scenes yung biglang nagbabago yung brightness kasi na observe ko lang sakin pag dark scenes bigla nalang maglalight yung mga blacks ng 2sec tapos balik na agad sa black ulit everytime may dark scenes tinest ko na rin sa ibang dvd titles ganun pa rin halatang halata sya lalo pag patay ilaw.

yung pagkalight nya parang pag nag-adjust ka ng brightness ng 10-15% more

Hello Otepsy!

Like Boybi I have not experienced this.   This might be an isolated case and you might like to bring  the concern to the shop were you got it from. 

Hope you are able to fix this.
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #935 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 05:49 PM »
naexperience nyo na ba sa pv70 on dark scenes yung biglang nagbabago yung brightness kasi na observe ko lang sakin pag dark scenes bigla nalang maglalight yung mga blacks ng 2sec tapos balik na agad sa black ulit everytime may dark scenes tinest ko na rin sa ibang dvd titles ganun pa rin halatang halata sya lalo pag patay ilaw.

yung pagkalight nya parang pag nag-adjust ka ng brightness ng 10-15% more

Haven't seen one because I dont have a plasma but I have read from other sites about the so called "fluctuating black level" or "floating black" that is evident on dark scenes as regards the European version of Pany PV60.    Nobody can seem to know how to compensate for this phenomenon even through the Service Menu.  As I recall, some posters suggested changing the setting to Cinema Mode but that does not seem to eliminate it completely.   Anyhow, I think you'd better have it checked by your seller.

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #936 on: Mar 10, 2008 at 05:52 PM »
Hello Otepsy!

Like Boybi I have not experienced this.   This might be an isolated case and you might like to bring  the concern to the shop were you got it from. 

Hope you are able to fix this.


i will check all the settings tonight then kung wala naman problem sa settings it might be the panel nga.
bago ko ireport sa shop... thanks.

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« Reply #937 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM »
ive already check my settings last night naka off naman lahat ng enhancements ganun talaga eh.
lalo na pag patay ang ilaw. pinaka halata sya nung end credits black lahat then paglabas ng text naglight ng 2sec. yung buong screen ng mga 5-10% brightness ng black pati sa mga dark scenes pero bumabalik din agad after 1-2 seconds.. yung pv70 nyo ba ganun din?

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« Reply #938 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 11:39 AM »
bro wala naman ako na experience na ganyan? di kaya sa source or connections mo? can we know your source/s n connections din?

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #939 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 11:57 AM »
Very similar conditions dun sa nabasa ko about the European Pany PV60.  The poster described that the fluctuating black becomes apparent when a scene is dark and then biglang lalabas ang subtitle...but kung meron sabay sabay na bright scenes na lalabas, hindi raw masyado. Anyway, I think you should have it checked if it bothers you at all..

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« Reply #940 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM »
Hi otepsy;

Don't judge your pv70 yet; try first other dvd player.  Preferably yung dvd player na natested ok sa ibang pv70.  Yung pv70 ko kasi 4 months na with hundreds of hours of usage, pero I never experienced this fluctuating black level.

Otherwise, exercise your warranty rights to fix your pv70.
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« Reply #941 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 12:22 PM »
Bro you would sleep better if you just go back to you seller right away.  The thing is, if you're seeing something that should not be there in a significant piece of investment while most of the rest dont, they quite likely yours is not normal.   And if some Europeans are witnessing a similar phenomenon in their nearly equivalent PV60 model, then it may not be an isolated incident.
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #942 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 02:38 PM »
thanks to all of you i'll probably contact the shop where i bought my pv70.

this is my connection
pioneer dv600 connected via hdmi (bandridge).

i have tried different titles yet ganun pa rin.

medyo nakakairita nga eh hindi ko maenjoy yung movie dahil inaabangan ko yung flactuation almost lahat ng dark scenes meron

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« Reply #943 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 03:07 PM »
thanks to all of you i'll probably contact the shop where i bought my pv70.

this is my connection
pioneer dv600 connected via hdmi (bandridge).

i have tried different titles yet ganun pa rin.

medyo nakakairita nga eh hindi ko maenjoy yung movie dahil inaabangan ko yung flactuation almost lahat ng dark scenes meron

mukang ok naman setup mo bro. same source din naman tayo. have you tried using component or composite connections n see if ganun parin? baka sa cable may prob eh

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« Reply #944 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 03:29 PM »
mukang ok naman setup mo bro. same source din naman tayo. have you tried using component or composite connections n see if ganun parin? baka sa cable may prob eh

oo nga ano. sige try ko mamaya via component kung ganun pa rin
ano ba hdmi cable mo?

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« Reply #945 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 03:57 PM »
May nabasa ako sa DTVForum Australia, similar problem with a Panasonic 500a, pinalitan daw ang sustainer board (whatever that is  ;D). 

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« Reply #946 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 05:00 PM »
oo nga ano. sige try ko mamaya via component kung ganun pa rin
ano ba hdmi cable mo?

wala naman dapat kaso sa brand ng cable yun bro. gamit ko yung ultralink na hdmi.

balitaan mo kami bro n sana maayos na nga

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« Reply #947 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 05:08 PM »
ang malas ko naman mukhang ako pa lang naka experience nito ah

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« Reply #948 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 05:11 PM »
wala naman dapat kaso sa brand ng cable yun bro. gamit ko yung ultralink na hdmi.

balitaan mo kami bro n sana maayos na nga

balitaan kita tomorrow try ko mamaya sa house via component cable pag ganun pa rin i'll call the store tomorrow.

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« Reply #949 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 05:53 PM »
goodluck bro! kung ganun parin...mukang isolated issue nga yung sayo...wag naman sana

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« Reply #950 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 06:26 PM »
goodluck bro! kung ganun parin...mukang isolated issue nga yung sayo...wag naman sana


sana nga... huhuhu  ???

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« Reply #951 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 09:18 PM »
medyo maiba ng topic, may i know kung gano talga katagal ang buhay ng plasma natin? yung real life na lifespan nya? 3 years? 5 years? How long bago mo masabi na sulit na sya?

ako kasi iniisip ko, parang swerte na to pag umabot ng 3 years.
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« Reply #952 on: Mar 11, 2008 at 09:57 PM »
Half life yata is 25,000hrs. So if you watch around 3hrs a day, that is equivalent to 8,333 days or 22yrs. This is the life of the plasma panel, not the electronics thingies inside the unit.

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« Reply #953 on: Mar 12, 2008 at 04:53 AM »
medyo maiba ng topic, may i know kung gano talga katagal ang buhay ng plasma natin? yung real life na lifespan nya? 3 years? 5 years? How long bago mo masabi na sulit na sya?

ako kasi iniisip ko, parang swerte na to pag umabot ng 3 years.

Hindi naman ganun kaikli sir ang lifespan ng plasma --- otherwise, kawawa naman tayong mga owners.  ;)

Will have to agree with sir boybi na mukhang aabot naman at least 20 years lifespan. My unit's a Panny 50pv70.

Well, manufacturers claim na aabot (daw) ng 60,000 hrs ang plasma.  ;D

Got these figures from a review:

Panasonic: States in new specifications that new plasma TVs and monitors are good to 60,000 to half life.
Samsung: Lists 60,000 hours for plasma lineup.
Pioneer: States 60,000 hours of use in their 2005 models.
Sharp LCD panels: States 60,000 hour life.

Anyhu, the same review gives tips on how to "take care" of our plasma tvs:

There are steps you can take to ensure longer and better life from your plasma display panel:

1) Never leave static images on the unit. Plasma phosphors have become more resilient to burn in, but still its better to be safe. Do not leave a static image on the plasma screen for more than 7-10 minutes. This can cause a ghosting effect which will "wash" out by use. Watch the unit in full widescreen format as much as possible to avoid differentiation between the side bars of the unit. While this does not actually decrease the longevity of the phosphors it does cause an annoyance to have to play a gray static image to "erase" the temporary burn in.

2) Use Brightness and Contrast levels that are necessary for viewing - not excessive. In a brightly lit room you may need to view the plasma TV at a higher contrast and brightness, which will decrease the life of the unit. However, there are memory setting adjustments available on most recent plasma displays that allow the user to choose a memory setting to suit viewing needs. At night, or in a lower light room use lower contrast levels and extend the life. Do not use your plasma display on 100% contrast (often disguised as the picture option in the menu). In rooms with normal lighting you should not need to use the contrast setting on more than 60% of contrast.

NOTE: Plasma manufacturers routinely ship plasma TVs with the contrast (picture) setting tweaked to 80 to 100% of contrast. Therefore, you will need to make this necessary adjustment yourself.

3) Keep the monitor/TV in a well-ventilated area. The cooling system in the plasma will not have to work as hard.

4) Buy a good brand. First tier brands are typically better built and engineered and will last longer. My first question when someone tells me about a plasma that pooped out on them is, “What brand and model was it?” Most of the time, it’s an “off” brand.

5) Turn the plasma off when not in use.

6) Keep the unit out of reach of small children.

7) Do not mount the unit face down from the ceiling

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« Reply #954 on: Mar 12, 2008 at 05:04 AM »
Moreover, alam naman natin ang "sakit" natin e. heheheh. i.e., "sakit" in adapting to new technology (immediately).

In 6-8 years time (or even a shorter period), there will a be a new line up ng plasma telies, so I'm sure na kukuha na naman tayo ng bagong units to replace the one's we have ryt now. hehehe. I'm preeeeetty sure very few plasma owners would hold on to their units for 20 years. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Kung aabot man ng 10 years "hold" natin sa ating plasma TVs, I think sulit na rin ang pagamit natin ng mga ito. 

Opinion ko lang mga bros.  ;D
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« Reply #955 on: Mar 12, 2008 at 06:27 AM »



There are steps you can take to ensure longer and better life from your plasma display panel:

Watch the unit in full widescreen format as much as possible to avoid differentiation between the side bars of the unit. While this does not actually decrease the longevity of the phosphors it does cause an annoyance to have to play a gray static image to "erase" the temporary burn in.

Hope d foregoing helps.


Hi sir, does this mean that it is not recommended to watch movies in 2.35:1 or greater format? Paano yon sir e halos lahat ng movies ngayon
ganito format. Pangit naman cguru kung i zoom natin e di na da natural yung aspect niya. Akala ko kasi pag na burn-in na ng more than
100 hours eh okay  na manood ng may black bars at di na siya mag kaka image retention problem.

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« Reply #956 on: Mar 12, 2008 at 08:15 AM »
Hi sir, does this mean that it is not recommended to watch movies in 2.35:1 or greater format? Paano yon sir e halos lahat ng movies ngayon
ganito format. Pangit naman cguru kung i zoom natin e di na da natural yung aspect niya. Akala ko kasi pag na burn-in na ng more than
100 hours eh okay  na manood ng may black bars at di na siya mag kaka image retention problem.

Ok so would you rather watch movies in zoom mode for the next 20-25 years or in their default aspect ratio for 10-12 years?   ;D ;D ;D

These HDTVs are meant not only for movie viewing but for the most part in the 1st world countries, for TV viewing whether it be enhanced for widescreen programs or high def shows that completely fill out the screen.   Until the makers finally come out with a commercial panel in 16:4 format, this is the trade-off we all have to live with in order to enjoy movies the way directors want us to.

6-8 years is a very conservative estimate for plasma lifespan within a household.  10-15 years is more like the average even in Japan.
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« Reply #957 on: Mar 12, 2008 at 09:50 AM »
guys i tried component cable last night meron pa rin contrast fluctuation ganun pa rin. i'm gonna call the seller now. huhuhu

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« Reply #958 on: Mar 12, 2008 at 10:19 AM »
what worries me most are the horror stories when their tvs just die down and when they have it checked " sir, 35k for the replacement of this part" :o :(
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« Reply #959 on: Mar 12, 2008 at 10:23 AM »
I'm just curious, how is the warranty arrangement with our friendly members' HT stores anyways?