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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #480 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 02:37 PM »
I finally solved the mystery. Eto si frootloops. Standing, 5th from left.

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #481 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 02:46 PM »
hmmmm saan kaya galing si frootloops :D

thanks sir mark for the fantastic EB you put-up!

sana may part 2 ;D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #482 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 03:14 PM »
panalo talaga itong EB na ito!  el grande!  chibog lang super na!

kailan kaya nga mauulit!???!

brader john - nag CR lang sandali si brader froots!  ;D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #483 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 04:56 PM »
Sir Mark, thanks for hosting this EB

The PQ of your screen has greatly improved over the last EB.
Colors were striking and give out a sense of 3-dimensionality.

Also the reverberations that I heard before in your HT was absent this time around.


Thanks, Juancho. I bought a video calibration system a few weeks ago. I spent 4 hours last week helping the AV Driver technician calibrate the pj. The result nga is a big improvement in pq. Actually, it can still improve! Maybe next week, I will try to tweak it some more.

Bass has also improved a lot. The 2 Paradigm subs help a lot. Then I tweaked sub positions, subwoofer mgt system and Audyssey. Result is pretty good.
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #484 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 05:04 PM »
LOL..ya parang nga I saw ingrown hair in the area you are saying haha.. ;D..But man Im disappointed in one of the results, I think you are too hehe..I can't believe it. I think the player itself should be calibrated. I calibrate mine sa sharpness and contrast even after calibration sa tv. I don't know if this would help but mine seem to be better after adjusting contrast, brightness and sharpness on the player itself hehe. I may be doing it wrong but definitely have improvement after adjusting..I notice nga the pics on that player weren't like that on the previous shootout. Maybe its the disc transfer hehe..Hollow man superbit and The rock criterion were just great copies

Raymund, as I noted in the other thread, its not really surprising that the Oppo will get trounced. Keep in mind that Pio was connected to the DVDO VP50Pro, which did deinterlacing, upscaling, fine detail enhancement, etc. Actually, I wanted to prove that the video processor can improve a cheap player like the Pio so that it could beat an Oppo. But of course, panala pa rin ang BD and Popcorn. Malayo.

I spent a lot of time calibrating the pj first and then individually calibrating the players, using Video Essentials or Avia. The brightness, contrast and color saturation of the Oppo were optimized. However, I left the sharpness at zero because if you remember the last Batman scene, there was a very strong evidence of edge enhancement. That was the Oppo, and if you increase sharpness, the edge enhancement gets worse.
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #485 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 05:05 PM »

PS.  Lets do this again soon!  I volunteer my place.  I am in Sta Mesa near Stop and Shop.  I do not have a really big HT room to accommodate everybody but we have a roofdeck to house everyone while enjoying your favorite red wine and san mig light!



Okay ito. Aprub!  ;D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #486 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 05:18 PM »
tsk...kanino nga ba?  dami na nating mapupuntahan!  buti na lang nakilala na natin ang mga mas matitinik ng sta. rosa laguna!


Eto HT ng friend ko sa Sta. Rosa. He would be very happy to host an EB.


Ang galing talaga ng system nya. Lalo na ang sound absorbers.  ;D

JMLab speakers


Sony VPL-VW60 projector:


Special sound absorbers:
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #487 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 05:38 PM »
Eto HT ng friend ko sa Sta. Rosa. He would be very happy to host an EB.


Ang galing talaga ng system nya. Lalo na ang sound absorbers.  ;D

JMLab speakers


Special sound absorbers:


miss ko na si focals!  hayyyyyy.......


sir mark, lagi namang andun yung special absorbers diba?  sana sa EB andun din!
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #488 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 05:46 PM »
I want to thank everyone who joined the EB yesterday for coming, and for the drinks and food you brought. I know that some of you guys came from quite far away. Special mention to sanmig_ph who took a few hours to get to the house. There also seems to be a big Sta Rosa mafia that attended. ;D

As I mentioned in my PM to you guys, the HD blind test was only one of the objectives of the EB. I thought of organizing a really big EB when the Warning thread blew up and seemed to cause mistrust and paranoia in the community. I thought that a big masaya EB would help to bring back the camaraderie at Pinoydvd, and I think we have achieved that objective. Special mention siguro sa mga magugulo kagaya ni xxxyzledge and his special requests.  ;D ;D Special mention din to Waxx, the Pinoydvd idol and Mr. Golden Ears.  ;D ;D

Mahirap din to organize the EB, lalo na ang procedure for the blind test. I had to re-calibrate the pj and individually calibrate each source. Had to choose scenes which would best show the differences between HD and SD video and audio. Had to design a simple scoring system and tabulation method. But actually, what was giving me sleepless nights was the possibility that one of the key components would break down in the middle ... like the pj lamp blowing, or the fuse of the AVR - it happens. Mabuti na lang that all went well.

Maraming salamat to iiinas, who went to the house at 9 a.m. and helped me to work out the actual details of which scenes to show and of how to switch between scenes, etc. I couldn't have done the blind test without his help.

I am really looking forward to the next EB. Revskie has offered his place and my friend's HT at Sta Rosa is also available - it's quite big, mga 40 square meters siguro.

Cheers! :)
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #489 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 05:48 PM »
sir mark, lagi namang andun yung special absorbers diba?  sana sa EB andun din!

Hahaha! Baka kanya-kanyang bitbit na lang ng special absorbers!  ;D ;D

Here's another view of the great pj:

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #490 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 06:33 PM »
Hahaha! Baka kanya-kanyang bitbit na lang ng special absorbers!  ;D ;D

Here's another view of the great pj:




Pucha tara na sir Mark!!! Where do I sign? lol  :D
Now that's a class-A sound absorber - lambot nyan!  ;)
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #491 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 06:36 PM »
hmmmm saan kaya galing si frootloops :D

thanks sir mark for the fantastic EB you put-up!

sana may part 2 ;D

Di talaga kami dapat kita dyan ang tataas ng mga nasa unahan eh  ;D

Nahuli lang tumungtong sa silya si froot kaya ayun . . . mas tumangkad pa kami kay Blackie  :D

D best talaga itong EB na ito! hehe

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #492 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 07:32 PM »
Hahaha! Baka kanya-kanyang bitbit na lang ng special absorbers!  ;D ;D

Here's another view of the great pj:



patay na po!  sigurado ko kukuyugin to ng lahat ng miyembro!

btw, may number ka ba niya sir Mark???  ;D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #493 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 08:39 PM »
nice meeting allof the guys! (pati na rin gays!) ;D ;D ;D

Mare, bigyan mo naman ako ng tips para malandi ang dating ng HT ko.  Floral design na room tapos kulay pink yung AV rack! Ahay!!!

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #494 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 08:43 PM »
patay na po!  sigurado ko kukuyugin to ng lahat ng miyembro!

btw, may number ka ba niya sir Mark???  ;D

Masama sana i-post ko .. pero naman kasi professional model yun! Kawawa naman sya.  ;D ;D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #495 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 08:59 PM »
Nice HT sir Mark! Is this the one where you said I could watch you calibrate the PJ? Naku...lapit lang nito sa bahay.
Siguradong matutuwa nito ang mga neighbors kong mga letter J's...hatorni lipat ka na dito sa Sta Rosa! ;D ;D ;D

Kidding aside, we are all really grateful for all the learnings from the EB. The best one talaga is the bonding among fellow pdvd members.
That's something that can never be replaced. Let me just reiterate...Sir Mark, hats off to you! :D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #496 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM »
Nice HT sir Mark! Is this the one where you said I could watch you calibrate the PJ? Naku...lapit lang nito sa bahay.
Siguradong matutuwa nito ang mga neighbors kong mga letter J's...hatorni lipat ka na dito sa Sta Rosa! ;D ;D ;D

Kidding aside, we are all really grateful for all the learnings from the EB. The best one talaga is the bonding among fellow pdvd members.
That's something that can never be replaced. Let me just reiterate...Sir Mark, hats off to you! :D

Hi Alvin! Yes, that's the HT I was talking about. I became his consultant. The acoustic design was done by AV Driver.

About fellow-enthusiasts ... we have our small world, have our own jokes which only we understand, have these itches which only we can commiserate with ... That's why it's great to meet people who think the same way! I find that's normally the best part of a good EB.  :)
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #497 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM »
Ninong Mark thanks po sa special mention, nakakataba po ng puso :D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #498 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 10:54 PM »
Pucha tara na sir Mark!!! Where do I sign? lol  :D
Now that's a class-A sound absorber - lambot nyan!  ;)

Jasper, tested na ang sound absorber na yan. Very effective. It absorbs not just sounds but many other things as well.  ;D ;D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #499 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 11:22 PM »
Kainggit naman! Sasaya...

Ang po-pogi mga sirs!!  ;)

sama po kayo sa next EB :D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #500 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 11:28 PM »
Jasper, tested na ang sound absorber na yan. Very effective. It absorbs not just sounds but many other things as well.  ;D ;D

Haha... noted Mark.  Well kung ganyan ang usapan sir, wala ba tayong shoot out na "sound absorbers" edition naman?  :D   Naku feeling ko, kahit napakalaki na ng HT mo sir, mukhang kailangang doblehin pa para ma-accommodate ang mga magda-dagsaang mga 'testers.'  ;)

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #501 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM »
Kaka inggit naman.....hirap talaga ako makapunta sa EB.    :-[

Congrats to Mark for another successful EB.  Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat.  ;)

And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts. 

Well done Mark.  ;)


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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #502 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM »
Kaka inggit naman.....hirap talaga ako makapunta sa EB.    :-[

Congrats to Mark for another successful EB.  Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat.  ;)

And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts. 

Well done Mark.  ;)



sayang pare sana nakadalo ka din ;D
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #503 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM »
Kaka inggit naman.....hirap talaga ako makapunta sa EB.    :-[

Congrats to Mark for another successful EB.  Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat.  ;)

And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts. 

Well done Mark.  ;)



Bro, yung unang subo ko ng fried chicken at pancit na dala ko para sayo yun. Promise!  ;D Marami pa tayong pag-uusapan bro, hintayin mo lang sa PM.  ;)

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #504 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM »
Bro, yung unang subo ko ng fried chicken at pancit na dala ko para sayo yun. Promise!  ;D Marami pa tayong pag-uusapan bro, hintayin mo lang sa PM.  ;)

 :'(  Sa shoot out di ko mami miss yun (mahirap magkamali eh)........pero sa inuman at kwentuhan, talo ako.

PM lang Donnel....HTH.

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #505 on: Sep 28, 2008 at 11:58 PM »
sayang pare sana nakadalo ka din ;D

someday somehow pare........dala ako whiskey... ;)

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #506 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM »

Maraming salamat to iiinas, who went to the house at 9 a.m. and helped me to work out the actual details of which scenes to show and of how to switch between scenes, etc. I couldn't have done the blind test without his help.

Cheers! :)

glad to be of help sir mark, anytime sir, ang sarap yatang tumambay sa ht nyo.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #507 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM »
someday somehow pare........dala ako whiskey... ;)

bumaha din pare ng wine sa EB ;D
ako kuha lang ng kuha ng sanmig sa ref ;D
may nakita ako dala si brader ESi
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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #508 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 07:48 AM »
sama po kayo sa next EB :D

Sana nga sir sanmig_ph.. I'm sure marami pang next time :)

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Re: My dream theater (July 08 upgrade)
« Reply #509 on: Sep 29, 2008 at 07:53 AM »
Kaka inggit naman.....hirap talaga ako makapunta sa EB.    :-[

Congrats to Mark for another successful EB.  Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat.  ;)

And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts. 

Well done Mark.  ;)



Miz namin kayong dalawa ni pchin! Kapag natapos na ang HT ni pareng Jay2, baka dun na tayo magkita!  :) :)
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