Topic: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!

[boredfilmmaker]

Just saw the schedule of BTV this week...medyo crappy yung line-up......No San Antonio-Phoenix? 

it will be on espn.. 9.30 am..

[dobler]

it will be on espn.. 9.30 am..

what's the schedule on ESPN/Star? Is it still Friday's and Saturday's like the regular season?

[boredfilmmaker]

what's the schedule on ESPN/Star? Is it still Friday's and Saturday's like the regular season?

wednesdays and saturdays for espn.. fridays for star.. that's what their schedule shows..

http://www.espnstar.com/tvtimes/tvtimes_index.jsp

[Munskie]

Thanks boredfilmmaker!!


Just great.....

[dobler]

i have a feeling the pistons will lose this series, i hope im wrong

things to consider:

1. all 4 games between the pistons and sixers during the season, decided by 8 points or less.
2. sixers are 10-0 in 1st round series when they win the opening game.

[Wiggum]

wednesdays and saturdays for espn.. fridays for star.. that's what their schedule shows..

http://www.espnstar.com/tvtimes/tvtimes_index.jsp

Thanks for this!  For those who continue to suffer as Skycable subscribers without BTV, here's the NBA telecast sked this week on ESPN/Star Sports/C/S Sports:

Wednesday, April 23 - PHX @ SAS, Game 2, 9:30 a.m. (ESPN)
Friday, April 25 - CLE @ WAS, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (STAR)
Saturday, April 26 - NOH @ DAL, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (ESPN)
Saturday, April 26 - SAS @ PHX, Game 3, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Sunday, April 27 - HOU @ UTAH, Game 4, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Monday, April 28 - NOH @ DAL, Game 4, 9:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)

Dang - no Laker games! 

[Munskie]

Thanks for this!  For those who continue to suffer as Skycable subscribers without BTV, here's the NBA telecast sked this week on ESPN/Star Sports/C/S Sports:

Wednesday, April 23 - PHX @ SAS, Game 2, 9:30 a.m. (ESPN)
Friday, April 25 - CLE @ WAS, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (STAR)
Saturday, April 26 - NOH @ DAL, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (ESPN)
Saturday, April 26 - SAS @ PHX, Game 3, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Sunday, April 27 - HOU @ UTAH, Game 4, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Monday, April 28 - NOH @ DAL, Game 4, 9:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)

Dang - no Laker games! 

meron, sa C/S ...on Thursday 1030 am game 2.  Just saw it in the BTV website.....  

[dobler]

meron, sa C/S ...on Thursday 1030 am game 2.  Just saw it in the BTV website.....  

Thanks for this!  For those who continue to suffer as Skycable subscribers without BTV, here's the NBA telecast sked this week on ESPN/Star Sports/C/S Sports:

Wednesday, April 23 - PHX @ SAS, Game 2, 9:30 a.m. (ESPN)
Friday, April 25 - CLE @ WAS, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (STAR)
Saturday, April 26 - NOH @ DAL, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (ESPN)
Saturday, April 26 - SAS @ PHX, Game 3, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Sunday, April 27 - HOU @ UTAH, Game 4, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Monday, April 28 - NOH @ DAL, Game 4, 9:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)


Dang - no Laker games! 

Salamat. Why do I suddenly long for the days of Sky Cable's NHK feed? I still remember watching the Bulls-Jazz game when Jordan had the stomach flu. Live clear feed with no commercials. Hay those were the days... hehe...

[Munskie]

NBA 2008 Sixth Man Awardee

[bumblebee]

He's really not a "Sixth Man" is he?

[john5479]

He comes off the bench so technically he's a "Sixth Man". He can easily be a starter though

[Munskie]

I think he came off the bench 51 of the 74 games he played.   I dont know the exact NBA ruling on being a sixth man nominee.

[bumblebee]

The NBA should change rules regarding the sixth man. Just imagine Kobe or LeBron coming off the bench. And if SA becomes champion, Manu will be Sixth Man and Finals MVP.

[john5479]

So given the chance, who would you think should be the sixth man awardee this season?

[bumblebee]

I'm a Suns fan so I'd pick Leandro.

[john5479]

Not bad, he was my second choice. Leandro can start for other teams as well though.

[bumblebee]

Not bad, he was my second choice. Leandro can start for other teams as well though.

Yeah, but not for any team. I wouldn't start him on the Suns. That would be too reckless

[Munskie]

Im on level on what bumblebee is thinking. 

The NBA ruling is simple:

To be eligible for the award, a player must come in off of the bench in more games than he starts. The winner is voted on by a group of basketball journalists.


But come to think of it, to be more appropriate, the sixth man should not play starter's minutes too. 

Ginobili and Barbosa's minutes per game average are 31 and 29 minutes respectively.

[john5479]

That's the thing, they come off the bench but play for the majority of the game, even finish the game or in manu's case take the winning shot Lets turn it the other way around, how about a "sixth man" getting props and be named to the all nba team?

[bumblebee]

For me, the sixth man should not be all-star caliber.

[Munskie]

1982-1983    Bobby Jones    Philadelphia 76ers   24mpg
1983-1984    Kevin McHale    Boston Celtics   31mpg
1984-1985    Kevin McHale    Boston Celtics    34mpg
1985-1986    Bill Walton    Boston Celtics     19mpg
1986-1987    Ricky Pierce    Milwaukee Bucks     32mpg
1987-1988    Roy Tarpley    Dallas Mavericks   29mpg
1988-1989    Eddie Johnson    Phoenix Suns    29mpg
1989-1990    Ricky Pierce    Milwaukee Bucks   29mpg
1990-1991    Detlef Schrempf    Indiana Pacers    32mpg
1991-1992    Detlef Schrempf    Indiana Pacers  33mpg
1992-1993    Clifford Robinson    Portland Trail Blazers    31mpg
1993-1994    Dell Curry    Charlotte Hornets   27mpg
1994-1995    Anthony Mason    New York Knicks    32mpg
1995-1996    Toni Kukoč    Chicago Bulls     26mpg
1996-1997    John Starks    New York Knicks    27mpg
1997-1998    Danny Manning    Phoenix Suns    26mpg
1998-1999    Darrell Armstrong    Orlando Magic   30mpg
1999-2000    Rodney Rogers    Phoenix Suns   28mpg
2000-2001    Aaron McKie    Philadelphia 76ers    32mpg
2001-2002    Corliss Williamson    Detroit Pistons   22mpg
2002-2003    Bobby Jackson    Sacramento Kings  28mpg
2003-2004    Antawn Jamison    Dallas Mavericks   29mpg
2004-2005    Ben Gordon    Chicago Bulls   24mpg
2005-2006    Mike Miller    Memphis Grizzlies   31mpg
2006-2007    Leandro Barbosa    Phoenix Suns   33mpg
2007-2008    Manu Ginóbili     San Antonio Spurs   31mpg

After researching.......I am pretty sure that Manu's award is legit.   He's not even the winner with highest minutes played on the average.   That belongs to Kevin McHale, at 34 mpg. 

[Munskie]

For me, the sixth man should not be all-star caliber.

  IMHO, it shouldnt matter what caliber the player is.  If I have the power to change eligibilty rules for the nominees, here are my take:

1.  Should come off the bench 60% of the games he played.
2.  Should not average more than 28 mpg  (I just feel more than this, you are already playing starter's minutes)

Then the media voters can choose who they think is the most productive bench player and whose contributions greatly helped the cause of the team.

Classic example based on my criteria

1.  Toni Kukoc--  95-96   13ppg on 26mpg, becoming the third wheel in the magical 72-10 season of the Chicago Bulls.

2.  Ben Gordon--  04-05  15.1ppg on 24mpg, helping the Bulls come back to the play-offs for the 1st time since the Jordan era.

@  I was wondering as I was posting the list of the winners...no Vinnie "Microwave" Johnson of the old Piston Bad Boys?

[bumblebee]

But Munskie, the sixth man can't be your team's best player. Manu has been a go-to-guy for the Spurs most of the season. All-star caliber players should be nominated for the MVP, not the sixth man award.

I admit Kukoc is all-star caliber (I should have qualified my post, my apologies). But Pippen and Rodman are too.

[Munskie]

But Munskie, the sixth man can't be your team's best player. Manu has been a go-to-guy for the Spurs most of the season. All-star caliber players should be nominated for the MVP, not the sixth man award.

I admit Kukoc is all-star caliber (I should have qualified my post, my apologies). But Pippen and Rodman are too.

Oh well, only 1 of the 124 media voters might agree with you.   Manu got 123 first place votes.   It doesnt matter if he is the Spurs best player this season.  He is eligible.  Yes, he is an all-star caliber player, but he came off the bench more than he started.   Just happened that his contribution has been somewhat more meaningful all season long against his more celebrated teammates like Parker and Duncan.

On the other hand, if the NBA hears my plea on my criteria, no superstar or all-star caliber will qualify.   No player of that caliber will play for paltry average of less than 28 minutes per game.   

But if  someone puts up all-star caliber numbers within that limit, then he truly deserves the NBA Sixth Man awardee.   

[Munskie]

Cavs-Wizards 2-0 na

and so is Utah, 2 up on Houston.


Looks like Arenas and Stevenson are shooting themselves on the mouth.....nagalit tuloy ang Da King.

[RNIverson]

No one will dare to call him overrated again    I hope the Cavs sweep the Wiz

[Munskie]

No one will dare to call him overrated again    I hope the Cavs sweep the Wiz

What is with these athletes making these ridiculous predictions??  Almost all of them shoot themselves with their mouth.....except maybe Joe Namath.....

[john5479]

Looks like New Orleans will go up 2-0 against Dallas, Chris Paul is running circles around Kidd 

[Munskie]

The more Chris Paul puts up huge numbers, the more I believe that Dallas made a mistake in trading for Kidd while giving up Harris and Diop.

 

[john5479]

It all started when dallas traded steve nash