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Title: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Munskie on Jan 12, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Since yung isang thread is about the off-season, created a thread for the ongoing season.

Currently, two teams in the East are lording it over (Boston and Detroit).   Sa west naman, a logjam for the West lead between San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas, and gulp, (hold your breath), the Lakers!!!!  ;D ;D

Created the thread out of excitement created by the media attention the young center, Andrew Bynum of the Lakers had been getting.  His averages the past 5 games, all Laker wins:  18.8 pts, 12.8 rebs, 2.8 blks.   Scary fact, he's just 20.  ;D ;D   
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: sardaukar on Jan 12, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Yeah, it seems they were right not to trade him after all. Now if only they can get Butler back for Kwame.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Yeah, it seems they were right not to trade him after all. Now if only they can get Butler back for Kwame.  ;D
Hehehe, you win some, you lose some.  But with their line-up, for me, Im set.  Player development, maturity and experience will get them far, and will be contenders, if not now, but soon.

Mitch Kupchak would have been known as the guy who traded away Shaq and Kobe.  But instead weathered the Kobe demands, and is looking like a genius now.   Drafting Bynum, Farmar and Turiaf are looking like good choices now.  So is the trade for Trevor Ariza.

If they would redo the 2005 draft, Im pretty sure Bynum is in the top 3.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: hubes on Jan 12, 2008 at 11:42 PM
so possible na to have an La-Boston title series again just like in the 80's?
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM
so possible na to have an La-Boston title series again just like in the 80's?
8) sana......
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Jan 13, 2008 at 12:39 AM
LAkers started strong, too, last season but injuries made the cookie crumble. I hope the same doesn't happen this season. Fisher's been a great add-on, as well as the Ariza trade. Bynum's improvement is helping El-Ay a lot coz now they have an inside presence on both ends of the floor. I think he leads the league in FG% (62% ata) and is averaging more than 2 blocks a game.

With Kobe not having to worry about the scoring, he can now concentrate on defense (of course, scoring is an afterthought with Kobe). Kwame's a decent back-up for Bynum as he's probably the LAkers' best low post defender (just have to live with his inability to hold on to the ball). I was hoping that Mihm would stay helathy coz that would give the LAkers a trio of big men who can play D.

Farmar's game has improved and he's showing fans why the team was high on him when they drafted him out of UCLA. I feel for Javaris Crittenton coz he's got a lot of talent, but Phil just won't play rookies. Vujacic now has confidence with his shooting, which is what the LAkers need when they have to kick out when they post Bynum or Lamar. Radmanovich has been pretty much inconsistent, but I think injury to a shooter's hand can be the worst type of injury when a team expects you to provide outside firepower.

Luke and Lamar looks like they're coasting and sometimes, I feel like I'd rather see Ariza start than Luke coz Ariza can flat out play D and is very athletic to boot.

*sigh* A Boston-LA Finals match up is premature and wishful thinking at thiis point; but hell, with the way the LAkers (and how about them Blazers, huh?!) are playing, it looks like they have a shot at the Western Conference Finals. Go El-Ay!!!  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 13, 2008 at 09:14 AM
LAkers started strong, too, last season but injuries made the cookie crumble. I hope the same doesn't happen this season. Fisher's been a great add-on, as well as the Ariza trade. Bynum's improvement is helping El-Ay a lot coz now they have an inside presence on both ends of the floor. I think he leads the league in FG% (62% ata) and is averaging more than 2 blocks a game.

With Kobe not having to worry about the scoring, he can now concentrate on defense (of course, scoring is an afterthought with Kobe). Kwame's a decent back-up for Bynum as he's probably the LAkers' best low post defender (just have to live with his inability to hold on to the ball). I was hoping that Mihm would stay helathy coz that would give the LAkers a trio of big men who can play D.

Farmar's game has improved and he's showing fans why the team was high on him when they drafted him out of UCLA. I feel for Javaris Crittenton coz he's got a lot of talent, but Phil just won't play rookies. Vujacic now has confidence with his shooting, which is what the LAkers need when they have to kick out when they post Bynum or Lamar. Radmanovich has been pretty much inconsistent, but I think injury to a shooter's hand can be the worst type of injury when a team expects you to provide outside firepower.

Luke and Lamar looks like they're coasting and sometimes, I feel like I'd rather see Ariza start than Luke coz Ariza can flat out play D and is very athletic to boot.

*sigh* A Boston-LA Finals match up is premature and wishful thinking at thiis point; but hell, with the way the LAkers (and how about them Blazers, huh?!) are playing, it looks like they have a shot at the Western Conference Finals. Go El-Ay!!!  ;D

yeah....go LA!!!    Nice analysis sir.   Bynum though is 2nd to Biedrins in FG percentage.   Im really pretty high on Bynum right now.   He really plays taller than his height (7'0") because of his wingspan.   And notice that the last few games, he's been showing some of his low post moves, proving thats he's not just a lob, putbacks kind of center.

Big difference in LA right now is their commitment to play better defense this year.  As good as they started last year, it was aided by an easy schedule.     Opponent's FG is a big indicator of team defense, last year they were 18th, now they are 4th in the league.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 13, 2008 at 09:21 AM
could a good soul please post tv skeds or where such skeds can be viewed. thanks!

btv schedule  http://www.btv.com.ph/btv_grid.pdf (http://www.btv.com.ph/btv_grid.pdf)

espnstar schedule  (ill post it later)

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 14, 2008 at 12:33 PM
crap...the curse of the thread....down goes Bynum with an injury.....shucks!!!  >:(
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: choy on Jan 14, 2008 at 12:37 PM
my Heat sucks this year :(
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 14, 2008 at 12:57 PM
my Heat sucks this year :(

Riley mortgaged the Heat's future but got a ring as a result.  Now they are feeling the effects of those trades.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 14, 2008 at 01:01 PM
Riley mortgaged the Heat's future but got a ring as a result.  Now they are feeling the effects of those trades.
yeah, I agree.  Quite a rebuilding to do now...
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Marl☆1 on Jan 14, 2008 at 01:33 PM
btv schedule  http://www.btv.com.ph/btv_grid.pdf (http://www.btv.com.ph/btv_grid.pdf)

espnstar schedule  (ill post it later)



hey thanks for this bud, very helpful!  ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 15, 2008 at 09:02 AM
The curse of January.....Bynum out for 8 weeks!!   shucks!!!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 15, 2008 at 11:29 AM
foe those looking for ESPN and Star Sports NBA games

http://www.espnstar.com/tvtimes/tvtimes_index.jsp (http://www.espnstar.com/tvtimes/tvtimes_index.jsp)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Jan 15, 2008 at 01:06 PM
yeah, I agree.  Quite a rebuilding to do now...

Shaq's $60M for the next 3 years is killing their cap. The Diesel and the Flash should just sit out the rest of the season. Hehe. But I believe Wade returned from injury prematurely. That shoulder of his w/o the proper surgery is a concern.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Jan 15, 2008 at 01:30 PM
derek fisher is also one reason why the lakers has good chemistry, a role imho not suited for kobe...
buti na lang kupchak did not pull the kidd/bynum trade last season...

as for miami, yes 2006 ring is a product of a "win now" game plan but they are still contending if not for the injuries (shaq's hip, ZO's knee, wright's jwill's ankles and wade's whole body) that plague the team...
oh well might as well tank the season and get lucky with pingpong balls



Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: hubes on Jan 15, 2008 at 05:06 PM
LA is now the top seed in the western conference if playoffs starts today. So is Boston in the East.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Jan 15, 2008 at 06:15 PM
When Bynum went dowm El-Ay struggled and barely beat Memphis and they barely got out of Seattle with the W, needing a jumper by Kobe with 4.2 to go in OT.

Someone really has to step up and be a second option for the LAkers and supplant what they lost when Bynum got injured. The rebound, I think they can make up for coz their frontline is doing a pretty good job so far. The inside presence is what they'll badly need and I think this is where Odom should start making his presence felt, since, he's pretty good at posting up if he puts his mind to it. And with the Suns coming up, I'm sure Lamar will be asked to do more offensively. Good thing he's pretty much good at posting up the smaller Suns.

Teka, napansin ko dominated by the LAkers na itong thread. Ibahin naman natin ito.

I was sort of amused at what I read at Yahoo where a Pistons player called Tracy McGrady "half man, half a season". LOL. I can't  understand why Tracy can't seem to fit in every team he's been to. Maybe its his work ethic or maybe he really isn't the the leader type. IMHO, he's more of the complimentary type of player. He's pretty athletic, no doubt about that, but he and Grant Hill reminds me so much of Samboy Lim coz these high flyers usually get injured a lot. Mr. Glass may be a more apt nickname for these type of players. Rumor has it that Tmac is asking for a trade. I pity the team that he'll be sent to.

And how about the Wizards back-to-back win over the mighty Boston Celtics? What's so effing amazing is that they didn't even have Agent Zero when they beat the Cs. Caron Butler's having another All star season and I think they've pretty much adjusted without Gilbert.

And New Orleans pretty much improved on what they did last season.They have a young core that would probably compete for years to come. Chris Paul is putting up MVP numbers with averages of 21 ppg, almost 11 apg and almost 3spg. They're currently at 25-12, which is good for third in the tough South West division.

Dissapointing team so far would be the Chicago Bulls. They've been great the past two season and everyone was hoping that this might be the year they get to the Finals. I really don't know what happened, but it seems like their players have lost the "hunger" that they've shown in the past. You can add the fact that two of their players Gordon and Deng didn't get the contracts they wanted. And man, I used to think the signing of Ben Wallace was a sound investment, but the former Defensive Player of the Year's been pretty much a non-factor.

And dayum! Are those Blazers for real?! Everyone pretty much wrote them off when this season's number one pick, Greg Oden, suffered a season-ending injury. But these young team caught everyone by surprise with their December rampage as they won 13 straight games that month and have been 18-3 up to January with wins over New Orleans, Denver (twice), Utah (twice) and Golden State (twice). I hope they sustain that momentum and reach the playoffs.

Share nyo pa ibang observations nyo (wag na muna Lakers hehehe) about what's happening in the NBA.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 16, 2008 at 10:04 AM

as for miami, yes 2006 ring is a product of a "win now" game plan but they are still contending if not for the injuries (shaq's hip, ZO's knee, wright's jwill's ankles and wade's whole body) that plague the team...
oh well might as well tank the season and get lucky with pingpong balls

Sad but true, the quickest way the Heat can remedy their situation is to hope that Shaq will retire soon, and agree to a buyout.  That would leave some salary cap relief that would be beneficial for them in seeking a big time free agent next season.   The only untouchables for them I believe is Wade and Haslem.   And oh yes, if they cant improve the way they play in the next ten games (with Shaq around this time), yeah better to tank the season.... :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Jan 16, 2008 at 02:31 PM
pare do remember that ricky davis contract will soon expire...

there are big names in the trade rumor mill....here's a link tamad na ako mag post he,,he
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/-quot-Name-quot-players-could-be-dealt-before-F?urn=nba,61426
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Wiggum on Jan 16, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Quote
Share nyo pa ibang observations nyo (wag na muna Lakers hehehe) about what's happening in the NBA.

Sorry, Laker fan here.  :)  Just had to throw this in - here's an interesting write-up (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22670150) on the latest melodrama involving the Lakers. 

It was really agonizing to see Bynum go down, just as the Lakers were starting to surge.  Bynum will be missing something like 20+ games, including a stretch of about 12 road games (9 straight) in February!  I just hope the other Lakers like Odom, Fisher, Farmar, Turiaf, Ariza step up too and help Kobe, who will now become the target of opposing team's defenses.       

There are rumors that LA is thinking of signing Chris Webber, PJ Brown or even Mbenga (huh?) to shore up that frontline.  Check out InsideHoops.com (http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml).  My vote goes to the veteran PJ Brown.  Malas ata si Webber.   
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Jan 16, 2008 at 10:06 PM
As much as PJ Brown is more of a fit coz of defense and inside presence, he hasn't played in more than a year (?) and you can't just shake rust off. and I doubt he'd really want to go back into active play.

Webber is more of a fit in the Triangle offense and the LAkers would benefit from his inside scoring coz that's what they lack (coz Odom seems to be in cruise mode at times) and his passing is superb for a big man. You might never see Chris Webber and Defense in the same sentence, but hell, he's still a big body who can rebound and box out.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 17, 2008 at 06:36 AM
Sabi dati Webber will only be playing for the Pistons...so I don't think C-Webb in LA will happen.

Heat...rebuilding mode na yan. Actually dapat this off season they started it na. Kaso la sila masyado trade pieces. Masyado nila inasa na makakahabol sila sa 7th or 8th seed with Wade's return. Kaso wala talaga support...aside from Udonis. Trades (PG: Bibby or Andre Miller and someone to replace Zo) will probably help them reach the playoffs but not win another ring.

Suns will still rule the Pacific, especially with Bynum out for 2 months. Kwame won't do half what Bynum was doing. And we know what happens when Kobe start taking more shots  :P

How about them Blazers...contending for the Northwest Division! When almost everyone thought that they will be a lottery team again because Oden (who is he again!?) was out for the season. Roy is outstanding...All Star baby!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Jan 17, 2008 at 07:30 AM
If Webber badly wanted to play for Detroit, he would've been with them right from the start of the season. I think he's really choosing his options as he wants to piggy-back for his sought-after championship. Chances are, he'll try his luck with the Celtics.

I don't think having Bibby or Andre Miller wil help the Heat reach the playoffs since both will take some time to adjust playing with their new team. Having Shaq would help, but I doubt his body would be able to stand the rest of the season.

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Jan 17, 2008 at 12:16 PM
If Webber badly wanted to play for Detroit, he would've been with them right from the start of the season. I think he's really choosing his options as he wants to piggy-back for his sought-after championship. Chances are, he'll try his luck with the Celtics.

Walang tatalo kay Mitch Richmond when he piggy-backed his way to a ring with the Lakers! Opps, LA ulit. Hehe, sorry. Bulls naman, Joakim Noah's had two altercations with the assistant coach and Ben Wallace. Team mates voted to suspend him for a few games. He's boy among men. Just shut up and play.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 17, 2008 at 07:59 PM
Miller/Bibby, Davis, Wade, Udonis and Shaq -- plus some role players (Wright, Cook, Jackson) I think that's possible. Considering how bad the east is (except for the Pistons and Cs) any team has a chance in the East. Imagine you can reach the play offs even if you are under .500.

But thie thing is you have to give some of the pieces I mentioned above in order to get either Miller or Bibby. So it's really a long shot.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Jan 21, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Argh! As if Bynum's injury wasn't enough to remind us of last year's collapse, more bad news comes by way of Trevor Ariza's foot injury. The once big men-heavy frontcourt of the LAkers have been cut down to size with Chris Mihm, Andrew Bynum, Vladimir Radmanovich and now, Ariza, all in the injured list.

When it rains, it pours.  :'(
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Wiggum on Jan 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM
^ Just read about that injury to Ariza too.  If it's a broken foot/toe, that will probably take a long time to heal.  :'(  I hope LA can still salvage some momentum...  I also read somewhere that they will probably settle for Mbenga to patch up their frontcourt.  All I know is that he is a 7-footer with big ears..  Great.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 22, 2008 at 08:51 PM
^ Just read about that injury to Ariza too.  If it's a broken foot/toe, that will probably take a long time to heal.  :'(  I hope LA can still salvage some momentum...  I also read somewhere that they will probably settle for Mbenga to patch up their frontcourt.  All I know is that he is a 7-footer with big ears..  Great.
they just signed up Mbenga.    At least they won vs Denver.   2-1 of 26.   
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Jan 24, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Superman's Demise:  Time for Shaq to Retire

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-shaq012308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-shaq012308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)



I agree.   Nothing left to prove anymore.  He has 4 rings.   His best years were the Lakers Championship trilogy.  But playing those years not in the best of shape and conditioning proved to be devastating to his body.   His style of play, pounding and being pounded, is not good for career longevity.  Sharp contrast to Kareem's body type and style of play, which is more finesse than power. 

If he retires, he is giving his legacy and the Heat that much needed break.


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 30, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Shaq took hit health (and weight) for granted.
He's feeling the cons of going into each season heavier than the previous season.
If he intends to finish his final 2 years of his contract he needs to be more disciplined with his weight and conditioning.

If has half the discipline and dedication of Zo, he could last the 2 years as a very good role player for the Heat. They need to draft a good big next year (Hibbert, Hansborough, Beasly etc). Or then can gamble on OJ Mayo.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:49 AM
in 2003 yes... shaq was overweigh but not now... his age really is showing
but surpridingly   he's still playing at full speed with injuries and all
where he should be 3rd tier in his remaining years, (like kareem when he had magic and worthy)
problem is they are blaming his huge salry for his lack of playing time whereas
 he already took a salary cut of 10M a year... magine that...

and admittedly riley said he made a whole bunch of mistakes in his player trades it shows pat... it shows





Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:52 PM
He could be better once he improves his FT shooting.
However, I think the Cavs are gaoing to have a hard time come playoffs this year.
LBJ is surounded by less than role players.
He needs more of those 4th Q efforts to come up as the East champs.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:56 PM
possible scenario from yahoo din
Nets in three-way talks for Kidd (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Asb.7WJqaD3jQ3YqsUAkdeK8vLYF?slug=aw-kiddtrade013008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

NETS get
-Devean George
-Jerry Stackhouse
-Travis Outlaw
-Channing Frye
-Jarrett Jack

Trailblazers get
-Devin Harris

Mavs get
-Jason Kidd
-Malik Allen
-Jamaal Magloire


NETS-with stack and devean's expiring contracts the nets would have the leverage to attract big name free agent.. plus with kidd gone marcus williams maturity would be now on track plus travis outlaw and frye... bigs who would'nt want bigs

BLAZERS- i dont know about this.. they already have a solid backcourt... hmmmm can you trade an injured player? on NBA 2k kasi you cannot he..he but if you would rethink about it its just outlaw for harris...

MAVS-kidd vs nash...west finals... book it!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 31, 2008 at 07:16 PM
If I'm Portland I won't pull the trigger.
Outlaw has been a big part of Portland's resurrection in the West.
Brandon Roy is outstanding, but Outlaw contributes a lot as well.
Blake and Jack are not your ideal PGs but they are doing the job.
Plus Roy also

Devin Harris won't make up for the hole that Outlaw will create.
Some of it will be compensated since Harris will play point and Roy can move to the Shootig Guard position (more touches in scoring position).

But overall I don't like that deal for Portland.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: rusty on Feb 01, 2008 at 09:48 AM
here are your 2008 NBA All-Stars from the Eastern Conference:

    * Jason Kidd
    * Dwyane Wade
    * LeBron James
    * Kevin Garnett
    * Dwight Howard
    * Chauncey Billups
    * Chris Bosh
    * Caron Butler
    * Richard Hamilton
    * Antawn Jamison
    * Joe Johnson
    * Paul Pierce
    * Dwyane Wade

your 2008 Western Conference All-Stars:

    * Allen Iverson
    * Kobe Bryant
    * Carmelo Anthony
    * Tim Duncan
    * Yao Ming
    * Carlos Boozer
    * Steve Nash
    * Dirk Nowitzki
    * Chris Paul
    * Brandon Roy
    * Amare Stoudemire
    * David West
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 01, 2008 at 12:05 PM
haha oo nga ano.. good thing its just the all stars game...

excited to see the kiss the rim dunk by dho  on the dunk contest!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Feb 01, 2008 at 04:44 PM
I hope Byron Scott gets to coach the West All Stars.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 02, 2008 at 05:16 AM
Whoa! Great news! Tamang-tama habang wala pa si Bynum..
****************************************************

Lakers trade for Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtyK.WC2in1RrSUErwiCvby8vLYF?slug=aw-gasoltrade020108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

The Los Angeles Lakers have acquired Memphis center Pau Gasol, league sources said Friday afternoon.

The Lakers will send center Kwame Brown and rookie point guard Javaris Crittenton to Memphis in the trade, along with at least one future No. 1 pick.

It is possible the Lakers will re-sign free agent Aaron McKie to send to Memphis to balance the contracts in the deal.

Gasol, a 7-footer, can play center for the Lakers until Andrew Bynum returns from a knee injury sometime in March. Then, Gasol, who is averaging 18.9 points and 8.8 rebounds, can slide over into the power forward spot. His passing and shooting skills are ideal to operate in the triangle offense. This move pushes the Lakers into championship contention.

For Memphis, Brown’s $9 million contract comes off the salary cap at the end of the season. Gasol has three years left and nearly $50 million left on his contract. He is averaging nearly 19 points and 8.8 rebounds for the Grizzlies.

The Memphis Commercial Appeal first reported the story Friday in its online edition.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 02, 2008 at 06:23 AM
I was so frustrated yesterday with the Piston's late seconds' 3 to bury the Lakers, but Kupchak surely made up for it by this trade!!!   Imagine a Bynum, Gasol and Odom frontcourt???   Wow!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Its unbelievable so little the Lakers gave up for Gasol.   I think he is perfect for the triangle.   So ano, papa trade pa ba si Kobe now? 


some reaction from Suns fans:

"Lakers are going to Kill us on the boards with Bynum, Gasol, and Odom. Will we get a rebound against them. Wow Lakers are scary now."

"What the F!!! Are you kidding me, Kwame, Crittenton, and two first that are going to be late first rounders!
I think I am going to be sick!!! "

"When deals like this go down, it makes the deals we have made the past couple years look so horrible.
It's a very good trade for the Lakers. "

"I'm actually worried about Kobe, Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol being on the court together."

(http://forums.lakersground.net/images/smiles/bananarock.gif)


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 02, 2008 at 07:11 AM
When Bynum gets back and picks up where he left off, astig yung twin towers ng Lakers.. Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Kobe and Fisher yung starting 5.. then you've got a pretty reliable bench now with Farmar, Ariza, Walton, Vujacic and Radmanovic.. just no more injuries.. Now, they're really back to being contenders.. Exciting 'to come playoff time.. looks like Kobe's going to be a Laker for quite a long time..  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 02, 2008 at 07:28 AM
Rumors are flying that Bynum is gonna be out much longer.   Ok lang, basta huwag madaliiin.  :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 02, 2008 at 08:17 AM
looking at the other side of the coin what does, Kwame Brown, Stromile Swift and Darko Milicic have in common?


1st and 2nd Overall Picks gone Busts
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 02, 2008 at 08:43 AM
looking at the other side of the coin what does, Kwame Brown, Stromile Swift and Darko Milicic have in common?


1st and 2nd Overall Picks gone Busts
its a fire sale in Memphis......
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Post by: kimpOy on Feb 02, 2008 at 11:48 AM
he..he
based on this http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/memphis.htm

with kwame's damon's contracts come off the book and swift might be traded soon... memphis is way under the salary cap with a young core of mike conley, rudy gay, juan carlos navarro, hakim warrick...

familair? yep portland route to rebuilding plus cap room to lure big name free agent.... nice call too by memphis management

the west just got tougher...

celtics vs lakers anyone?
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 02, 2008 at 01:09 PM
well i for one can't wait for a lakers-celtics finals again

but i also can't wait to hear the final news on bynum. ric bucher of espn indicates he may be out...for the season. wag naman sana.
Getting Gasol means they dont have to hasten the return of Bynum.   But im also anticiapating how will the twin tower line-up will play out in the Laker tri-offense.

I was browsing the Suns and Spurs forums.....they are all putting out trade probabilities to improve their fave teams' line-up. That after cursing the trade...  ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 02, 2008 at 01:33 PM
twin towers?

with odom now able to slide to the 3 (a more natural position for him i think) make that three towers!
how do the Spurs counter the three towers?

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/372320334_b8183d49e6_o.png)

Hehehehe  ;D ;D
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Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 02, 2008 at 02:27 PM
I'm so happy about Pau Gasol coming to the Lakers! Yey!

Hope Bynum rumor isn't true (about him being out for the season, i mean).
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Post by: clea on Feb 02, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Jerry West just did for Lakers what McHale did for Boston! ;D
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Post by: Battousai on Feb 02, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Grand theft Pau was how ESPN described it. Waaaay better upgrade than begging a loser like Webber to join them.

I am glad Pau Gasol ended up in P&G, but I am sad that they had to let go of Crittenton, coz, in the long run, I think he's got better skills than Farmar. And no matter how much it makes me cringe when Kwame's on the floor, he was probably the best defender the LAkers had on the post. Oh well, can't wait to see Pau's debut with the LAkers. Oh, and Kobe erupts for 46 as the Lakers burry the Raptors, 121-101.

I don't think The Logo's running the Girzz anymore, but I think the youth rebuilding is all set with Rudy Gay leading them and Javaris ready to show what he's got with (I'm assumimng) increasede PT at Memphis.

And holy crap! How long are the Lakers front court gonna be with Pau at PF, Bynum a Center and Odom (if he doesn't get traded) at SF?  :o That's not counting Ariza and Radmanovich coming off the bench along with Luke.


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Post by: Munskie on Feb 02, 2008 at 04:07 PM
This trade elevates LA from darkhorse status to legitimate contenders, assuming Bynum gets back 100% healthy this season.   

With them over the salary cap, Im a little worried how are they gonna sign Bynum to a max contract when renewal time comes.  Im pretty confident though that Kupchak will find ways, as there are still huge contract to get rid off, like Odom's and Radma's.   

This is rebuilding on the fly for the Lakers.   And I am pretty sure Stern is smiling.   A Lakers-Celtics Finals will make Stern smile up to his ears!!!
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 02, 2008 at 05:57 PM
their game against the Raptors earlier showed how excited they were with the acquisition of Gasol.. they came out totally on fire.. after that disappointing loss to Detroit, I thought they were going to start out cold.. it was an easy 46 points for Kobe.. almost everything he threw up went in.. he seems to love playing against the Raptors..

if they keep playing that way, and with Gasol now, they have a legitimate post threat again.. he may not be like Bynum defensively, his offense will more than make up for it.. their bench has got to be consistent as well.. I hope Bynum gets back alright even though it takes him a bit longer..
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 02, 2008 at 06:02 PM
hehe, parang LA thread nato  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 02, 2008 at 06:10 PM
hehe, parang LA thread nato  ;D ;D ;D

oo nga eh.. i guess they've just been really in the news this entire time.. from the off-season trade demands of Kobe, their surprise showing and big improvement of Bynum, the injury to Bynum and now this trade with Gasol.. then you add the possibility of a Lakers-Celtics championship, they're certainly going to be talked about the whole season..
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 02, 2008 at 11:30 PM

I don't think The Logo's running the Girzz anymore, but I think the youth rebuilding is all set with Rudy Gay leading them and Javaris ready to show what he's got with (I'm assumimng) increasede PT at Memphis.

That's right...this was a Chris Wallace move and not Jerry West.
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Post by: Battousai on Feb 03, 2008 at 12:27 AM
That's right...this was a Chris Wallace move and not Jerry West.

What's ironic is that Chris Wallace was a former Celtic GM.  ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on Feb 03, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Hope Bynum rumor isn't true (about him being out for the season, i mean).

Yikes.  Where did this rumor come from?  I thought the initial diagnosis was that he will be gone until mid-March only.  I've been reading a lot of Gasol trade analyses online, but I didn't come across any report about Bynum being out for the season.  Any updates? 

It was obvious that the Lakers pulled the trigger on this trade at least to salvage momentum for what was turning out to be a promising season, which was highlighted by Bynum's stellar play.  But without Bynum for the rest of season, the Lakers won't be able to realize the fruits of this trade completely.  Gasol makes their frontcourt formidable but IMO still not strong enough to compete against the best in the West (especially on the defensive end) this year.  Of course there are projected long term benefits, but Kobe and Lakers fans like me can be quite impatient.

Yeah, maybe this thread should be changed and renamed a Lakers fans' thread.  :)  Pasensya na sa ibang NBA fans.  I have a feeling though that there will be other big-time trades in the coming weeks.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 03, 2008 at 10:57 AM
o sige let's talk about another team naman.

memphis.

kwame brown and darko milicic are now on the same team  ;D

Now they only need to unretire Michael Olowakandi.   :D
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 03, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Now they only need to unretire Michael Olowakandi.   :D
sama nyo si stromile swift dyan...hehehe, just like Darko, 2nd overall pick na bust...
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Post by: sebman on Feb 03, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Now they only need to unretire Michael Olowakandi.   :D

nice addition... number 1 and 2 pick bust team..  :D  ;D
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Post by: Ctlim on Feb 03, 2008 at 02:33 PM
ang lupet talaga ni Kobe. Lebron aint sh*t.

Kobe is the next best thing to Michael Jordan. Period. Now with a supporting cast, the Lakers now have what it takes to beat the best of the west.

Boston could make it all the way, theres only ONE BIG PROBLEM they got. the DETRIOT PISTONS with Big Shot Chauncey.
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 03, 2008 at 07:24 PM
Kwame Brown, despite his shortcomings as a player, has been touted by some columns as a very good teammate, in terms of camaraderie on and off the court.  It showed when his ex- Laker teammates came up to defend and support him when he was booed in Staples in a home game two weeks ago. 

He even apologized to Kupchak, LA's GM, for not living up to expectations right after being informed of the trade.     On the business side of basketball though, Because of Kwame, Washington got Butler, and the Lakers, Pau Gasol. 

Wishing a good guy the best though.  ;)
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Post by: Ctlim on Feb 03, 2008 at 11:23 PM
that game reminded me of the bloopers of charles smith of the new york knicks when they shouldve beat the jordan led bulls....
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 04, 2008 at 02:46 AM
sir munskie, remember this? you posted it at the NBA '07 thread when the lakers drafted his brother.. dilang-anghel..  ;D

LA Lakers have Gasol!!!!  ::)

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Post by: Battousai on Feb 06, 2008 at 10:23 AM
As per ESPN, there are talks of Phoenix and Miami swapping Shawn Marion for Shaq.

 A healthy Shaq will no doubt boost Phoenix, but I somehow doubt Shaq's knees would last the wear and tear of Phoenix' up-tempo game. I would love for this trade to happen coz, while I hate the Suns, I'd love to see what Shaq can provide for a team in desperate need of frontline help.

Makes the LAkers-Suns games something to look forward to.  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 10:44 AM
As per ESPN, there are talks of Phoenix and Miami swapping Shawn Marion for Shaq.

 A healthy Shaq will no doubt boost Phoenix, but I somehow doubt Shaq's knees would last the wear and tear of Phoenix' up-tempo game. I would love for this trade to happen coz, while I hate the Suns, I'd love to see what Shaq can provide for a team in desperate need of frontline help.

Makes the LAkers-Suns games something to look forward to.  ;D
If the Suns get Shaq,  what happens to their run and gun offense?   I think it will slow down a bit, and they feel that Shaq can give them an inside presence in the half court set, offense and defense.  Teams have been killing them inside, and the Laker's trade for Pau surely made them consider this move heavily.   Barring any injuries, Shaq might ressurect a declining game a bit with the presence of Nash.  I think they're feeling that their window for a Championship is fast closing.  Id welcome the move, a LA-PHX game would surely be great to watch.   ;D ;D  On the other end, Miami would surely be a flyer team now....with Marion joining the acrobatic Wade.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 06, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Gasol just led the Lakers past New Jersey 105-90 with 24pts and 12rebs in his debut.. Kobe only had 6pts on 3-13 shooting..
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 06, 2008 at 12:32 PM
We've just seen a glimpse of how deep and dnagerous the Lakers can be.
Kobe scoring only 6 pts but still blowing the Nets (even if they suck).

They have a long and tall starting 5 in Kobe, Odom, Bynum, Gasol and Fisher but what other teams should be concerned about is the 2nd and 3rd stringers of the Lakers. You have Radmanovic, Vujacic, Farmar, Walton, Ariza and Turiaf coming off the bench. Those are not exactly push overs...I think they (the Lakers' bench scoring) are ranked in the top 3 in the NBA.

Plus you have a proven coach in Phil Jackson...other teams don't want this team in the 1st round (Utah?)
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Both Bynum and Gasol are long, 7 footers who both have 7'6" wingspan.  That means more deflected passes, blocks and changed shots.

 Questions have been raised if they could play together efficiently.   I think they can.  The triangle promotes proper spacing.   Gasol can man the post in the strong side, where his post moves (whether face up or back to basket) and his passing will thrive.  Bynum can be at the weakside, waiting for lob passes and offensive rebounds.    Oh man, its really a good time to be a Laker fan.  ;D ;D
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Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 06, 2008 at 01:34 PM
if the Suns get Shaq:

1. they will be saddled by his HUGE salary for the next two years.
2. they will have to slow down their game for him to be effective. They would veer away from their bread and butter which is the fast break style.
3. they will have to get used to the fact that Shaq will only play for half a season every year coz of his myriad of injuries (hip, knees etc).

IMHO its not worth it for them to pull the trigger on this trade.  Too much money for a declining superstar who has an average game now at this point in his career...same reason why Dr. Buss decided not to grant him his contract extension 3 years ago.

In retrospect, what the Lakers did way back when they traded Shaq turned out to be a very big blessing in disguise. If they had signed Shaq for that 5 year deal then they will be saddled with the problems that Miami has today. the Shaq - Kobe run officially ended when they lost to the Pistons. The year following that (Malone and GP year) it was very evident that Shaq's game was obviously on the decline already.  It really didnt make sense to invest big bucks in him as compared to a younger guy in Kobe.
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Post by: dobler on Feb 06, 2008 at 01:57 PM
The Suns should do it only if Miami includes:

1. South Beach
2. Anna Kournikova

The Heat can keep Enrique Iglesias
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:13 PM
Over in Memphis, cake insurance rose to 4% immediately after the trade.  ;D ;D
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Post by: dobler on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Over in Memphis, cake insurance rose to 4%.  ;D ;D

Hehe, check this out:
Cake Love: L.A. & Kwame
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2008/02/cake_love_la_kwame.html
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:26 PM
Its official:   Shag back in the Pacific...traded to the Suns!!!!  ;D ;D


note:  pending on a physical test.
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:39 PM
The Phoenix faithful arent convinced.  A poll in their forum suggests they will "CRASH and BURN".  ;D
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Post by: dobler on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:40 PM
Its official:   Shag back in the Pacific...traded to the Suns!!!!  ;D ;D


note:  pending on a physical test.

Please let him fail that. Please, please, please.... Why do I have the feeling that the Suns just sold their soul to the devil? Oh wait, they just did.
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Post by: kimpOy on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:57 PM
he..he nasa end court na phoenix players while si diesel nasa half court pa alng he..he
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Post by: dobler on Feb 06, 2008 at 03:01 PM
It's not April fools yet, right?

Shaq trade just wouldn't add up for Suns
By John Hollinger
ESPN Insider

The Phoenix Suns have the best record in the Western Conference, a game and a half ahead of their closest rival. They have the best scoring margin in the conference. They're 8-2 in their past 10 games (while outscoring opponents by nine points per game). And the Suns have a slew of home games coming up because their early schedule was so road-heavy.

In other words, after 48 games they're in as good a position as they've ever been in to win their first conference title since Sir Charles and KJ did it 15 years ago.

And their solution? Blow it up!

The Suns are reportedly in negotiations to trade Shawn Marion -- a man everyone agrees is a vital cog in their attack because of his ability to run opponents into submission from the power forward spot -- for Shaquille O'Neal. (The Suns would include Marcus Banks.)

Good call. Clearly this Nash-Marion-Stoudamire nucleus isn't working out; they've won only 62 and 61 games the two years they were together. This year they were on pace for a meager 58, so I guess they thought it had run its course.

My first reaction to hearing reports about this deal was that I was being Punk'd. After that, I checked the calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1, and verified that the voice on the other end of the phone didn't belong to Orson Welles.

But there was no Ashton Kutcher, no Orson Welles, and the calendar says it's February.

Believe it or not, this is a real, live trade discussion that might actually happen. I'm not sure I've adequately conveyed my shock at this development, but suffice it to say nobody I've talked to finds it even remotely sensible.

Shaq may be the one player who is least capable of thriving in the Suns' system. Run the break? No, thank you. Set a high screen and dive to the cup? Maybe 10 years ago. Space the floor for 3s? Please.

He's 35 and out of shape; at the moment he's also hurt. Even when healthy, he's had difficulty staying out of foul trouble long enough to make an impact. While I'll grant that Shaq can still be an offensive force -- even with his struggles this year his PER is a very solid 18.17 -- he's toasted regularly on defense. And if you thought Marion complained about not getting shots, you ain't heard nothing yet.

Even if you subscribe to the idea that Marion had to go -- there have been mutterings about his attitude for quite a while -- you can't seriously tell me this was the best deal on the table.

While matching his $17 million contract is difficult, the fact that there's only a year and a half left on it means there are partners out there. Just thinking out loud, for instance, you'd think New Jersey would have taken Marion in a heartbeat for Vince Carter or Richard Jefferson, and the Andrei Kirilenko deal that was so heavily discussed before the season also would seem preferable.

Marion, by the way, hadn't let his dissatisfaction and his own offseason trade demand affect his play. His 20.25 PER nearly matches last year's 20.87, and he's made up for a reduction in shots by cutting his turnovers and increasing his assists.

But despite his performance they're trading him for an older, less effective player, and one who could not be more of a square peg in a round hole in their system.

And get this -- the deal will worsen their cap situation, too. Shaq is on the books for two years after this one at $20 million a pop, whereas Marion only has one year left at less money, and may opt out after this season. So in addition to messing up their own team, the Suns will be basically handing Pat Riley a big fat Get Out of Jail Free card.

In short, this deal feels like one of these movie scenes where the lead character has a plan and says, "It's crazy ... but it just might work!"

I'm not sure about the working part, but it's definitely crazy. I'm praying this trade doesn't really happen, because the Suns have been too entertaining for too long to screw up their title chances like this.
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 03:14 PM
I do have a gut feeling that Shaq will give his all to help Phoenix and stick it one last time to Kobe and Buss.   ;D ;D  The Suns felt that they wouldnt win the West anyway if they keep the same roster.

Stern would surely pray for this........ Phoenix vs LA in WCF, and a possible LA-CElts finals.  :D
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Post by: Battousai on Feb 06, 2008 at 03:23 PM
I think it's gonna be a done deal (Shaq to Phoenix) coz the Suns are friggin desperate to plug their main weakness and they are really hoping Shaq will take this as a challenge and miraculously keep pace with the Suns offense. They (and I think everyone) panicked when the LAkers got another big to go along with their already-tall frontline.

Phoenix vs El-Ay in the playoffs would make Stern cream his pants.  ;D
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Post by: pekspert on Feb 06, 2008 at 03:24 PM
heat must be laughing their guts out. what a dumb move by the phoenix gm
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 03:27 PM
heat must be laughing their guts out. what a dumb move by the phoenix gm
That would be Steve Kerr  ;D ;D ;D He wants to reunite the '96 East All-Stars (Shaq and Hill)  :D :D

Heat can now rebuild around Wade and Marion  ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 05:10 PM
just got a glimpse of basketball in HD.   im salivating and cant wait for us to have HD broadcast.

here's  the HD highlights of Pau Gasol's debut as a Laker, indicator on how he fit in the Triangle offense.

download the file, copy in a USB flash, and play it thru PS3 or your divx player in your HDTV.

http://www.stage6.com/user/jd2k/video/2196961/ (http://www.stage6.com/user/jd2k/video/2196961/)

great stuff!!!
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Post by: dobler on Feb 06, 2008 at 05:46 PM
just got a glimpse of basketball in HD.   im salivating and cant wait for us to have HD broadcast.
here's  the HD highlights of Pau Gasol's debut as a Laker, indicator on how he fit in the Triangle offense.
download the file, copy in a USB flash, and play it thru PS3 or your divx player in your HDTV.
http://www.stage6.com/user/jd2k/video/2196961/ (http://www.stage6.com/user/jd2k/video/2196961/)
great stuff!!!

Pre, iba talaga HD Basketball. Had a chance to watch a couple games last time I went to the US. Favorite angle ko is top of the key. With 16x9, you get to see the whole key from baseline to baseline, without the camera panning in order to follow the ball. Heaven!

That would be Steve Kerr  ;D ;D ;D He wants to reunite the '96 East All-Stars (Shaq and Hill)  :D :D

Heat can now rebuild around Wade and Marion  ;D ;D

I really thought Steve Kerr was one of the smarter ones. But let's see if this gamble works out.
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Post by: Wiggum on Feb 06, 2008 at 08:55 PM
I do have a gut feeling that Shaq will give his all to help Phoenix and stick it one last time to Kobe and Buss.   ;D ;D  The Suns felt that they wouldnt win the West anyway if they keep the same roster.


I have the same feeling.  Assuming that Shaq passes his physical and recovers from whatever's ailing him, I think he will prove all the critics wrong and be a positive contributor to the Suns.  He usually plays well and is driven/motivated after he's traded (championships for LAL and MIA).  Obviously, his best years are behind him and he can't run the break, but I think he'll be more of a role player in PHX, which should work.  He's still good for double-digits in rebounds (to start the Suns' running game) and can match up against the top big guys in the West.  He will also allow Amare to slide to his natural position.

We don't have to wait long for the first salvo of the new Kobe-Shaq wars..  Mark it - Feb. 20, LAL @ PHX! 

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Post by: Munskie on Feb 06, 2008 at 09:04 PM
Malayo pa Feb 21 deadline......I feel marami pa trades mangyayari!!!  ;D ;D  Now, now I have to restart my 2K8 league again??
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Post by: X-®an™ on Feb 06, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Quite ironic!

When Shaq was with the Lakers, they used to kid Kobe that he will be traded to Phoenix for Marion. Back then, that deal would have been a steal for Phoenix.

It will be ironic if it ended up that it was him who will be traded to Phoenix for Marion. But this time around, I see the Suns on the losing end of this deal.
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Post by: kimpOy on Feb 06, 2008 at 11:27 PM
one word come to mind PLAYOFFS ... this is what he needs, fourth, fifth option heck he can back up amare...

imagine playoffs, west is a big man's game... amare/shaq vs

yao and scola?
dirk and diop/dampier?
chandler/west?
duncan/oberto?
camby kmart?
boozer/okur?

with hill, bell, barbosa and nash..  lakas pa rin  suns... they can still run just plug diaw there somewhere...
mind you only lakers can match that firepower...


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Post by: X-®an™ on Feb 06, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I think it's gonna be a done deal (Shaq to Phoenix) coz the Suns are friggin desperate to plug their main weakness and they are really hoping Shaq will take this as a challenge and miraculously keep pace with the Suns offense. They (and I think everyone) panicked when the LAkers got another big to go along with their already-tall frontline.

Phoenix vs El-Ay in the playoffs would make Stern cream his pants.  ;D

They should get this deal done... or else, the Suns will have a very pissed Marion in their hands!!!

But...
will this get the Suns over the Spurs?
    Nash vs. Parker/Damon S. - almost even
    Bell/Barbosa vs. Ginobili - almost even
    Hill/Diaw vs. Finley/Horry/Bowen - almost even
    Amare vs. Duncan - advantage Spurs
    Shaq vs. Oberto - slight advantage Suns

And finally, will this get the Suns over the Lakers?
    Nash vs. Fisher/Farmar - advantage Suns
    Bell/Barbosa vs. Kobe/Sasha - advantage Lakers
    Hill/Diaw vs. Odom/Ariza/Walton - advantage Lakers
    Amare vs. Gasol - almost even
    Shaq vs. Bynum - slight advantage Lakers  ;D
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 07, 2008 at 08:01 AM
looks like Shaq's really headed to the desert.. he passed the physical.. this season is just getting more and more exciting..
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 07, 2008 at 08:09 AM
Exciting!!!!  As a Laker fan, lets bring it on!!!  ;D ;D

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Post by: kimpOy on Feb 07, 2008 at 08:56 AM
shaq will be effective as 3rd or 4th option...
dont count out shaq he still has left...

plus no more half-hearted marion, no more useless bank and most importantly
bye bye 20M in 2010 and hello cap space....

but wait... if kwame brown's expiring 9M contract was able to produce a pau gasol
what more can a 20M expiring contract can do... hmmmm
 
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Post by: runner10 on Feb 07, 2008 at 10:50 AM
It looks like a stupid move from the Suns and it probably is.  From the PHX POV, Kerr did this because he knows that PHX will have to get past the Spurs if it wants to get to the finals.  They need someone to match up agains Timmy.  Obviously wit this major move, the Suns want to win a championship NOW -- not next year, no next next year.   Kerr's gambit may be good for the short term but definitely not for the medium-long term. 

If I were the PHX GM, I would keep Marion.
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Post by: dobler on Feb 07, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Best headline so far regarding the Shaq trade from The Arizona Repubic:

Where "OMG, Shaq's a Sun" happens

So is this really why Amare Stoudemire changed his number from 32 to 1? That's some foresight.
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/16512
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 07, 2008 at 11:46 AM
It looks like a stupid move from the Suns and it probably is.  From the PHX POV, Kerr did this because he knows that PHX will have to get past the Spurs if it wants to get to the finals.  They need someone to match up agains Timmy.  Obviously wit this major move, the Suns want to win a championship NOW -- not next year, no next next year.   Kerr's gambit may be good for the short term but definitely not for the medium-long term. 

If I were the PHX GM, I would keep Marion.


Kerr must be using Riley's tactics in Miami...Riley also gambled the team's future though he did win a ring.  And look at Miami now.

Is it really worth years of losing to win that one title compared to consistently winning but never getting the top prize?  Kerr seems to think so.
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Post by: Battousai on Feb 07, 2008 at 11:56 AM
I think the thinking here is that Shaq's only got 2 years left on his contract, unlike when he signed with Miami for 5 years (I think?). Now, the majority thinks that Shaq's done already, but take note that that's what people have said when he was first traded to Miami. The Diesel, lazy and fat as he is, has been known to take up challenges just to prove people wrong. The season he was in Miami, he got in shape, lost some weight and was lean and ready to run.

On the other hand, Phoenix loses their best rebounder and defender. They will soon find out that Shaq's not as good in rebounding and will miss those athletic put-backs MArion does for their team and those steals and blocks that he provides them. And hell yeah, aside from Amare, who will make those alley-oop plays that Phoenix loves running for Marion? Shaq, perhaps; but I doubt he's pretty mobile this season.

Oh, and the LAkers lost to Atlanta 98-95.  :'(
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 07, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Oh, and the LAkers lost to Atlanta 98-95.  :'(

Siyet, I think Kupchak made a mistake.  Bring back the Cakemaster!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 07, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Kerr must be using Riley's tactics in Miami...Riley also gambled the team's future though he did win a ring.  And look at Miami now.

Is it really worth years of losing to win that one title compared to consistently winning but never getting the top prize?  Kerr seems to think so.
  Yes.  For a franchise that has never won a NBA title, even if they mortgaged their future, yes, the Phoenix faithful would embraced it.   At worst, if the trade is a failure, they will fall into mediocrity.  Still a good gamble.  The bad thing is, we will never know if they had won had they stayed with Marion.    ;)

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Post by: dobler on Feb 07, 2008 at 01:14 PM
  Yes.  For a franchise that has never won a NBA title, even if they mortgaged their future, yes, the Phoenix faithful would embraced it.   At worst, if the trade is a failure, they will fall into mediocrity.  Still a good gamble.  The bad thing is, we will never know if they had won had they stayed with Marion.    ;)

Yeah, that's precisely what most columnists are saying. With most teams adopting a smaller and quicker line up to match their running game, the Suns basically are giving up what made them so fun to watch in the first place.

On a related note, months before the season started, Steve Kerr had a podcast session with ESPN's Bill Simmons. At one point, they talked about the role of a loose canon player (eg, Rodman, Stephen Jackson) in a championship team. Sometimes, you need that kind of player to give you an extra edge. With the Shaq trade, I never thought that Kerr would turn out to be the loose canon for the Suns.  :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: runner10 on Feb 07, 2008 at 01:34 PM
The Diesel, lazy and fat as he is........

If Shaq is able to run with the Suns for the whole month of Feb, he will be in shape by Mar 1!   ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 07, 2008 at 01:43 PM
We know what the Suns ended up when they stuck with Marion. As far as the Conference Finals.
I don't think that will change this year esepcially how they are having problems not only on the court but in the locker room.
For the columnists to pick up something like that (locker room problems) it means it's more than guys like Grant Hill and Steve Nash can handle. Those 2 guys are (as what they call it) good locker room players.
I'm not saying the Suns will suddenly walk over the West into the Finals...they're not going to -- with the Lakers, Spurs and Mavs in the same conference.
I think it's a good move before something really bad happens in the Suns locker room.

Still on the Suns...
Heartbreaking loss to NO this morning. The game went into 2 OTs with a possible 3rd one if not for Peja's buzzer beater over Amare for the win. The Suns suddenly look to have gotten back the life/fun they had the past couple of years. There was that bounce in the steps of the Suns especially Nash.

After Paulmissed the potential game winner in regualation the Suns were down 4 with 15 secs before they forced the 2nd OT. Barbosa for the fade away 3, after 2 free throws by Pargo, Nash got open for another uncontested 3. Last shot by Peja missed to end the 1st OT. The teams exchanged leads until the last 10 secs, with the Suns down 3. Suns miss a shot but Grant Hill keeps the ball alive and passes a rebound from the corner to Barbosa on the top of the key to tie the game again with a three. That left NO with 2 seconds left on the game clock and that's when Peja hit is game winner.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 07, 2008 at 01:54 PM
We know what the Suns ended up when they stuck with Marion. As far as the Conference Finals.
I don't think that will change this year esepcially how they are having problems not only on the court but in the locker room.
For the columnists to pick up something like that (locker room problems) it means it's more than guys like Grant Hill and Steve Nash can handle. Those 2 guys are (as what they call it) good locker room players.
I'm not saying the Suns will suddenly walk over the West into the Finals...they're not going to -- with the Lakers, Spurs and Mavs in the same conference.
I think it's a good move before something really bad happens in the Suns locker room.

Still on the Suns...
Heartbreaking loss to NO this morning. The game went into 2 OTs with a possible 3rd one if not for Peja's buzzer beater over Amare for the win. The Suns suddenly look to have gotten back the life/fun they had the past couple of years. There was that bounce in the steps of the Suns especially Nash.

After Paulmissed the potential game winner in regualation the Suns were down 4 with 15 secs before they forced the 2nd OT. Barbosa for the fade away 3, after 2 free throws by Pargo, Nash got open for another uncontested 3. Last shot by Peja missed to end the 1st OT. The teams exchanged leads until the last 10 secs, with the Suns down 3. Suns miss a shot but Grant Hill keeps the ball alive and passes a rebound from the corner to Barbosa on the top of the key to tie the game again with a three. That left NO with 2 seconds left on the game clock and that's when Peja hit is game winner.
After the Lakers lost, they are still just 2 and a half away from the West lead.   Thats how tight is the race in the West.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 08, 2008 at 07:54 AM
With all the negativity that surrounded the trade, Im pretty sure Shaq-Fu is fired up.   I do believe in the power of motivation and the strong urge to prove doubters wrong.   He can be effective in stretches and will contribute in the offensive end, if he is healthy.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 08, 2008 at 08:24 AM
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he..he ayos
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 08, 2008 at 11:25 AM
shaq might not be able to help the suns much during the remainder of the season.  his trade prognonsis would have to be judged during the playoffs where he should contribute or else.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 08, 2008 at 06:58 PM
Has anybody been watching the Heat last year and this year? How has Shaq played? Last I remembered they didn't even make the playoffs last year. Just curious how effective he will be this year.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 08, 2008 at 07:05 PM
What the mind can conceive, the body can achieve.   A big FACT or FICTION for Shaq.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 09, 2008 at 12:01 AM
tonedeaf,
The Heat reached the playoffs last year and was swept by the Bulls in the first round.

Tim Legler had a good point when he was analyzing the trade. He mentioned and tried to compare the Suns with the Showtime Lakers of the 80s. It had Magic, Worthy, Cooper, Scott and Kareem...yes the balding and slow Kareem. His point was it they had to run it was Cooper, Scott, , Worthy and Magic running the break. But when the games slows down they go to Kareem.

I think that's the same picture the PHX SUNS wants to paint. Run with the same group of people (Nash, Amare, Hill, Bell, Barbosa and Diaw) but when forced to play the half court game you have a commanding presence in Shaq. And this is very true in the playoffs. You'll notice that games slows down compared to the regular season. Maybe it's because teams focus on adjustments for a single opponent as compared to the regular season game where you don't have time to practice everything you have scouted on the other team.

Overall Shaq is Shaq...opponents will still need to guard him and at times double team him. He can still score (konti), rebound (konti) and block (mas konti). But his mere presence on the low block is what the Suns are looking for and not for the regular season but in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Feb 09, 2008 at 06:31 AM
Everything depends on Shaq's health and conditioning.

Whether Shaq still makes a difference during the playoffs is something that he's got to prove; but one thing's certain, the Suns will have a hard time running the break with less rebounds, less steals and without their best fast break finisher coz they traded him to a plodding HOF center.

I like Shaq and I hope he still has some diesel in him to last a few more years, but after seeing C-Webb play for the Warriors, well, good luck with that.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: X-®an™ on Feb 10, 2008 at 01:00 AM
CWebb's an entirely different player from Shaq, in the sense that how many rings has he got?  He hasn't proven anything, and right now his aim is just to piggyback his way to a championship.  I wondered what he thought when he heard the news that the Lakers got Gasol.  He must be thinking... "Damn, I chose the wrong team".

As for Shaq, he better back up what he promised.  One thing that bothers me with him is that why does he need to feel slighted to play motivated?  Is 20 million dollars not enough of a reason?  If only he has half the dedication that Kobe has for the game, he may still be with the Lakers now... and still in top form.  He has the physique to be the best center there is, but he's just plain lazy.

As for the Laker game today... Kobe and Gasol both had monster games.  But is just me, or am I seeing Vlad play very well these days?  If he can keep it up, he can very well play the Toni Kukoc role once the playoff starts.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Wiggum on Feb 10, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Update on Bynum's knee injury (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-streeter10feb10,1,1866040.column?ctrack=2&cset=true). 

I hope it heals in time so that we can finally see LA's powerhouse starting line-up in action.  Pahilot na lang niya sana!
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 11, 2008 at 08:07 AM
^Meron kami kilala diyan lang sa may likod ng SM City.
Magaling mang-hilot. Walang "hilot fee" donation lang :):):)
Refer ko kaya kay Bynum :)

2 games that I am very intersted to see:
1. Phoenix vs who ever (with Shaw in the line up)
2. Lakers (against who ever) once Bynum is back

I bet all the Spurs, Cavs and Mavs in the world will be terrified it these 2 teams make it work.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: a2 on Feb 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM
ganda ng dunk contest this year!! eto na ata yung pinakamaganda at pinakacreative na dunk contest na napanuod ko. move over shaq, there's a new superman in the nba, the man child, dwight howard!! ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Feb 17, 2008 at 11:40 PM
See sig to see the Black Superman....although I would not have counted that attempt as a dunk, seeing as he didn't even touch the rim.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: hubes on Feb 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
See sig to see the Black Superman....although I would not have counted that attempt as a dunk, seeing as he didn't even touch the rim.

reminds me of michael jordan's dunk in space jam :)
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Post by: Ctlim on Feb 18, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Dwight Howard is.........




NASTY!!!!!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: aRujoN on Feb 18, 2008 at 01:16 AM
Dwight Howard must really love that CRANK DAT soulja boy superman song.....

YOOUUUU!!!! ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jht3 on Feb 18, 2008 at 07:19 AM
^ Yep, he really does. Have you seen him dancing to that song? It's also seen in the Adidas commercial. The extended version can be seen in youtube though  ;D

Sayang si Jamario Moon, may preview pa naman siya ng dunk niya, 2 steps behind the free throw line ang tinalon niya.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 18, 2008 at 07:24 AM
^ Oo. Pero hindi niya nagawa :( I was cheering for him. Kaso....

SUPERMAN IS BACK iN THE BUILDING!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jht3 on Feb 18, 2008 at 07:32 AM
Oo nga eh, sana mas maging exciting pa yun competition next year, and dapat kasali ulit si Moon!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 18, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Jason Kidd now confirmed to be a Mav...New Jersey will receive the semi-retired Keith Van Horn in addition to Trenton Hassell, as well as Devin Harris, Sagana Diop, Maurice Ager, two first-round picks and cash.  Dallas will get Kidd and Malik Allen.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 18, 2008 at 05:38 PM
tonedeaf,
The Heat reached the playoffs last year and was swept by the Bulls in the first round.


Ah ok. I stand corrected.

I still have mixed feelings about the Shaq trade. On one hand, I'd be so happy if it explodes in Phoenix's face. Para LA can get the best of Phoenix after the last few years' of frustrations.

On the other hand, I like Shaq. He is such a goofy guy, and always fun to watch. Very even tempered too, considering the abuse he took over the years (double standard sa kanya because it always seemed as if even the strongest shove or foul never affected him). It would be nice if he ends his career on a bright note (not a championship, pero at least di naman as humiliating as all the things being said of him prior to the trade).

Pero from what I can recall of the few games I've watched him play, he can't jump as high, he's not as quick, he misses point blank shots, he still can't shoot free throws, he doesn't rebound as well, he doesn't play much defense (but then again, so does the entire suns team)...ano nga kaya? i'll definitely watch a Suns game every opportunity I can get. abangan!

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 18, 2008 at 08:19 PM
Shaq's Suns debut might be against the Lakers.  hoping it will be televised by BTV.

Bring it on!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 18, 2008 at 08:23 PM
Shaq's Suns debut might be against the Lakers.  hoping it will be televised by BTV.

Bring it on!!!  ;D ;D

ABC 5 is showing that on thurs..so baka iba yun i-televise ng BTV in the morning.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 18, 2008 at 08:29 PM
ABC 5 is showing that on thurs..so baka iba yun i-televise ng BTV in the morning.
BTV website has a different game on their sked.  Hoping they are flexible on their sked, kasi delayed yung sa ABC.  Ill watch it only if the Lakers win...heheheh  ;D ;D
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 18, 2008 at 11:06 PM
ABC 5 is showing that on thurs..so baka iba yun i-televise ng BTV in the morning.

This will be aired on House of Hoops (Thursday ba yun) sa BTV.
But I know they also show this in a local channel (baka ABC 5 nga).

Bibby traded to ATL (this was all over the AS weekend) for 5 players a draft.
Funny thing is ATLs first game after the AS break will be in SAC against the Kings :)

Also, Kidd has been traded to the Mavs -- Grorge and Stack out Van Horn and Hassell in -- pending league approval.
He might debut on Thursday against the Hornets. Not an impressive trade (for me) overall.
They let go of Harris and Diop -- now they don't have anyone in their line up to guard Parker, Nash, Paul (h\Harris can keep up with these guys). And they don't have a big after Dampier (Diop was better guarding the goal than Dampier). They're gonna be killed by the bigs of the Spurs (Duncan), Lakers (Bynum and Gasol) and Suns (Shaq and Amare).

Very very tight race in the West...Division winners are lucky. They get the top 3 seeds.
Everyone else is a toss up after that....the only saving grace of finishing in a higher seed it homecourt.
Kasi lahat ng teams ang lalakas. Imagine, NO is seeded #1 but they are just 5 games from being out of the playoffs.
I bad week (or 2 weeks) delikado na agad -- Houston nga e 8 game win streak + a winning record eh wala pa sa 8th seed.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: a2 on Feb 19, 2008 at 12:29 AM
the lal-phx game sa thursday will be aired on house of hoops sa abc 5.  :)
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Post by: jht3 on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:38 AM
^ LOL. Nice one hehe.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: John E. on Feb 19, 2008 at 10:11 AM
back to their origin: just another thought :D keith van horn get to retire at new jersey ;D as kidd may do with mavs  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Feb 19, 2008 at 04:13 PM
the lal-phx game sa thursday will be aired on house of hoops sa abc 5.  :)

What time po ba ito sa Channel 5? Thanks.  :)

Oh, and go to ESPN's Phoenix Suns clubhouse and watch the Shaq interview. He sounded drunk or whatever. LOL

And find in their videos the Shaq's take on Bill Walton's comments about his trade to Phoenix. "Shaq's arrogance is an insult to those who think"...then Shaq made a great comeback with, well, just watch the whole thing:

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3241540&n8pe6c=2&categoryId=2459788

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Post by: a2 on Feb 19, 2008 at 11:05 PM
7pm sir kung hindi ako nagkakamali. right after nung big news.  :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Feb 20, 2008 at 12:07 AM
7pm sir kung hindi ako nagkakamali. right after nung big news.  :)

Thanks po sa info, a2. :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Feb 21, 2008 at 03:00 PM
LAkers vs Suns... ;D  Not a bad debut for Shaq, but his former teammate stole the show.

Will definitely watch this later on ABC 5.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Yeah baby!!!    I predict Lakers will win the Pacific.....looking at their schedule, so much easier than that of the Suns.   What finger??  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Kobe was incredible!  41pts for someone with a torn ligament in his pinky!!!!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:27 PM
F*ck House of hoops on ABC.   Too much talk and so little on NBA action.   They show you the first half highlights, and after a very boring and long looney halftime show, they start with only a third of the third quarter left...... >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: lendgr8t on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:48 PM
May btv pa rin b sa skycable??  ???
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 22, 2008 at 08:14 AM
new trades

Cavs land James some help

By Adrian Wojnarowski
Thursday, Feb 21, 2008 4:05 pm EST

Finally, LeBron James has a supporting cast.


In an 11 player three-team blockbuster trade, the Cavaliers acquired Chicago's Ben Wallace and Joe Smith, Seattle's Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West before the trade deadline closed on Thursday, two league sources confirmed.
The Cavaliers sent Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Shannon Brown and Cedric Simmons to the Bulls, and Donyell Marshall to the Sonics. Seattle also gets the expiring contracts of Chicago's Adrian Griffin and Cleveland's Ira Newble.

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Feb 22, 2008 at 08:43 AM
F*ck House of hoops on ABC.   Too much talk and so little on NBA action.   They show you the first half highlights, and after a very boring and long looney halftime show, they start with only a third of the third quarter left...... >:( >:( >:(

Yeah, very much what I was thinking when I saw that show. Reminded me of the old NBA on GMA program that Quinito Henson hosted where they show highlights of the first half then the tail end or the full 2nd Half of an NBA game. At least Quinito was bearable as an analyst unlike the House of Hoops' male host (Bobby Yan ba yun?) who seems like he gets his basketball info from Wikipedia. He inadvertently even spoiled the outcome of the game when he mentioned that the Laker fans were happy with the result.  :P
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Post by: jht3 on Feb 23, 2008 at 02:54 AM
May btv pa rin b sa skycable??  ???

Wala na po. Sa destiny meron hehe.  :D
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Post by: dobler on Feb 23, 2008 at 09:35 PM
Yeah, very much what I was thinking when I saw that show. Reminded me of the old NBA on GMA program that Quinito Henson hosted where they show highlights of the first half then the tail end or the full 2nd Half of an NBA game. At least Quinito was bearable as an analyst unlike the House of Hoops' male host (Bobby Yan ba yun?) who seems like he gets his basketball info from Wikipedia. He inadvertently even spoiled the outcome of the game when he mentioned that the Laker fans were happy with the result.  :P

Agreed. It's a marketing ploy I guess. Hey lets suck at our coverage on free TV so that people will have no choice but to switch cable providers and get Solar Sports. I say crap em.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Feb 25, 2008 at 07:25 AM
just found another site where you can watch nba games online, free, and in high definition too.
and they have archives. how cool is that. watching yesterday's games in hd right now.

www.raptorsnation.net

enjoy!
thanks a lot bro!!!   this is a saver!!  ;D ;D ;D  hope the link stays alive!!   all nba games live!!!  ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 25, 2008 at 08:29 AM
its a lot better than just looking at stats...... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: rusty on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Thanks for the link too, i miss nba tv.  Medyo mabagal nga lang ang internet connection ko.
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Thanks for the link too, i miss nba tv.  Medyo mabagal nga lang ang internet connection ko.
yep....it needs a fast connection, and a fast PC/latop too.  Pero yung archived files medyo mas faster sa pag play.
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Post by: kimpOy on Feb 27, 2008 at 08:00 AM
too bad for the rockets...
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 27, 2008 at 08:02 AM
too bad for the rockets...
Houston, we have a problem.   

Parang perenial na yung foot problems ni Yao.....
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Post by: kimpOy on Feb 27, 2008 at 09:57 AM
yesmarvs.....lalo na with a 11-month a year obligation to nba/china.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2008 at 09:54 AM
Kobe will be MVP. And as much as I want the Suns to be champions, the Lakers are gonna get it.
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Post by: garee on Feb 29, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Lakers cruise to victory over Miami for their 10th straight win.

Next stop @Portland.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 01, 2008 at 09:25 AM
anybody know what's showing at C/S sports today? I'm keeping my fingers crossed that its the Lakers-Portland game.
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Post by: Munskie on Mar 03, 2008 at 08:09 AM
time to change bookmarks:
www.raptorsnation.tk

lakers-mavs, what a game. kobe for 52, and you can see he's got his old game face back. j-kidd missed a ft that would have sent it to 2ot. at least he was on the floor at crunch time, this time.
thanks!!!   thanks for the update....I know this will be a routine affair.....running away from licensing hunters!!

nice game!!   they have to win...I woke up 4:30 am just to watch them...hehe  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Wiggum on Mar 11, 2008 at 05:01 PM
How about them Houston Rockets?  I'm not a Rockets fan, but 19 straight wins in this league is amazing.  Without Yao.  ??? 

I think they can easily go to 21 straight with a road win over ATL and another home win over CHA.  What I want to see is their home game vs. LAL on March 16.  Will this be televised?  That'll be Monday morning here so I'm hoping C/S Sports will show it since I'm stuck with crappy Skycable.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Mar 11, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Yup, Houston is indeed amazing -- pero mga 7 games lang naman wala si Yao. Not the entire 19 game streak.
I think it's more on other people scoring (Alston, Scola, Battier, Head etc) that's giving them the edge.
Kasi you know that you'll get something from TMac (and Yao) pero before the others were inconsistent.
Pero the streak becomes a hollow record if they don't show up sa Playoffs.
They might have a tough first round in Utah (I think they lost the series to Utah last year).

The LA-Houston game will be aired on BTV. There is a chance that they air it at the same time in C/S.
They (C/S) always have a Monday telecast of an NBA game.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Battousai on Mar 11, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Houston doing well with Half-man-half-a-season Tmac still standing? Efiing amazing, especially since Yao's gone for the season! I hope they play as hard come playoff time.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Mar 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM
I think they've been good on defense even before this season -- that's what Jeff Van Gundy brought to Houston.
I think the players are now more comfortable on offense since they are more free under Adelman.
And again the players (outside of T-Mac and Yao) are more consistent offensively.

Monday is a big test for this team -- it's a good measuring stick for them in terms of how they can perform in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dexterc on Mar 17, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I think they've been good on defense even before this season -- that's what Jeff Van Gundy brought to Houston.
I think the players are now more comfortable on offense since they are more free under Adelman.
And again the players (outside of T-Mac and Yao) are more consistent offensively.

Monday is a big test for this team -- it's a good measuring stick for them in terms of how they can perform in the playoffs.

and they passed the big tst today...despite tmac palying sub par..4-16 shooting..kobe was also not efficient..11-33 FG shooting. thanks to shane's defense,alstons 3 pt shooting 8-11 and bobby jacksons contribution from the bench..19 pts
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jeyps11_c on Mar 17, 2008 at 12:45 PM
22 wins in a row!!! WOW!!!! Even the 72-10 Bulls didn't rack up a win streak like that! Phenomenal!
Now only 11 more to go and they even the 33-win streak of the Lakers of old (West, Goodrich and Chamberlain ata yun).
They have a tough roadie ahead of them...I think in the strecth they have Boston, NO, GS, and Phoenix.
But this streak catapulted them from 10th to 1st -- and almost half of that without Yao.

Also, the Nuggets drop 168 pts on the lowly Sonics!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: TOY 01 on Mar 26, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Sir ito yun link pwede niyo na mapanood ang NBA live online lahat ng game.........

http://www.janeironation.5gigs.com/cc.html#top


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Mar 27, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Laker Rhapsody... ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7_AlZFpsXQ&eurl=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/extramustard/03/26/hotclicks.0326/index.html (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7_AlZFpsXQ&eurl=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/extramustard/03/26/hotclicks.0326/index.html)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Wiggum on Apr 03, 2008 at 02:02 PM
The season is winding down, with only a couple of games left for each of the teams.  While the Celtics virtually have a lock on the top seed over-all and the playoff teams in the East are more or less determined (except for the seeding of the teams that will not have homecourt advantage), the playoff picture out West is still a bit unclear.  There are a couple of crucial games coming up in the final two weeks of the season involving these Western contenders which will finally decide who gets the top seed (NOH?  SAS?  LAL?).  This may not amount to much though, given the level of competition from the other contenders (PHO, HOU, DAL, DEN, UTA - I think GSW will drop out now that Dirk's back).  Should be an exciting prelude to what promises to be a more exciting post-season in the West.

But there's a lot of online talk too coming from several NBA "experts" about the race for the individual awards, particularly this year's MVP.  CP3?  Kobe?  KG?  King James?  IMO, if LAL bags the top seed in the West, it's going to be Kobe.  If LAL doesn't get the top West seed, it's going to be KG, which is also deserving.  No disrespect to CP3 (if they get the top seed in the West), but I don't think he's "popular" enough or is at the level of these other superstars to get the votes needed to be MVP.  Lebron is a special player too, but I don't think you can give the MVP award to a player from a team that's hovering around the middle of the pack of this year's Eastern Conference.

What do you guys think?

This year's All-NBA first team: these four players + Dwight Howard.

Can't wait for the playoffs to begin!  ;D  Back to work...  >:(

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 03, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Pretty exciting play-offs, especially sa West.  Free for all dun.  Imagine, a 50 win team may not make it to the post season?

Regarding the MVP race, I feel its gonna be a three player race between Kobe, CP3 and KG.   Kobe and CP3 has the numbers, while KG anchored the Celtic turnaround, and their impressive team defense.   Kobe and CP3 though has the advantage if they put their team on the top of the West.  KG will be the darkhorse....

Lebron has the best stats of all the contenders, but no 50 win season in the East, no MVP for him..... ;)
 
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: sardaukar on Apr 04, 2008 at 08:34 AM
Also, browsing through ESPN, I just now realized that with only 2 weeks to go, no one in the West has claimed a playoff spot! :o
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 04, 2008 at 11:52 AM
9th place: denver (no offense, nuggets fans)

I don't think they deserve it anyway with the way Denver is playing. But I still hope they make it and face the Hornets instead of the Spurs.

mvp, finals: mamba

 ???

They're not even playing in the finals  :P

I hate to post this in a Laker thread, but I see a Celtics-Spurs matchup.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Wiggum on Apr 14, 2008 at 08:25 AM
From the Bryant family:  :)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KobeMVP.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 14, 2008 at 08:37 AM
From the Bryant family:  :)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KobeMVP.jpg)


If they dont get their wish now......then, Kobe will never win one.  Ever. 



Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: runner10 on Apr 14, 2008 at 09:50 AM
In my opinion, MVP should be Chris Paul.  Look what he has done to the Hornets.

But I am sure, the voters will give it to Kobe.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: staind01 on Apr 14, 2008 at 10:33 AM
i'll play devil's advocate...

sana BOS-PHX sa finals!  ;D


also, i hope the NUGGETS would clinch the 8th spot in the WEST! go NUGGETS!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Apr 16, 2008 at 02:11 PM
While reading Bill Simmons's latest column, I came across this youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc11PUnFgkQ

It's destined to be a classic.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 16, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Lakers clinch no. 1 seed in the West......waiting for Denver or Dallas.


Let the real games begin!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: jrcrunch on Apr 16, 2008 at 02:24 PM
lapit na playoffs! wala ba talaga nba coverage sa skycable??   >:(  ???
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 17, 2008 at 09:51 AM
First Round Play-off Match-ups
(1) LA Lakers vs (8) Denver Nuggets
(2) New Orleans vs (7) Dallas Mavericks

(1) Boston Celtics vs (8) Atlanta Hawks
(2) Detroit Pistons vs (7) Philadelphia 76ers
(3) Orlando Magic vs (6) Toronto Raptors
(4) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (5) Washington Wizards
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I was hoping for the Mavs to get the 8th seed. NBA awards Kobe the MVP. A first round upset, #8 defeating #1. Dirk gets his justice! Oh well, maybe on his next lifetime  ;D

Any news on Bynum? IMO they can rest him until the second round. They probably won't need him against the defenseless Nuggs.

Does anyone know how will the rankings be affected with the Jazz-Spurs game? I can't believe I'm actually afraid for the Spurs to go against the Suns in the first round. They're built to destroy the Spurs, but unfortunately that's the only award they'll get this playoffs  :P
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 17, 2008 at 10:17 AM
I was hoping for the Mavs to get the 8th seed. NBA awards Kobe the MVP. A first round upset, #8 defeating #1. Dirk gets his justice! Oh well, maybe on his next lifetime  ;D

Any news on Bynum? IMO they can rest him until the second round. They probably won't need him against the defenseless Nuggs.

Does anyone know how will the rankings be affected with the Jazz-Spurs game? I can't believe I'm actually afraid for the Spurs to go against the Suns in the first round. They're built to destroy the Spurs, but unfortunately that's the only award they'll get this playoffs  :P

HOUSTON-PHOENIX-UTAH-SAN ANTONIO (Seeds 3 to 6)
(Higher Seeded team has homecourt in first round unless otherwise indicated)

If Houston and San Antonio win:
3-San Antonio
4-Utah
5-Houston (homecourt)
6-Phoenix

If Houston, Utah and Phoenix win:
3-Utah
4-Phoenix
5-Houston (homecourt)
6-San Antonio

If Utah wins and Phoenix loses:
3-Utah
4-San Antonio
5-Houston
6-Phoenix

If San Antonio and Phoenix win and Houston loses:
3-San Antonio
4-Utah
5-Phoenix (homecourt)
6-Houston

If San Antonio wins and Houston and Phoenix lose:
3-San Antonio
4-Utah
5-Houston
6-Phoenix

If Utah and Phoenix win and Houston loses:
3-Utah
4-Phoenix
5-San Antonio
6-Houston
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Apr 17, 2008 at 10:59 AM
HOUSTON-PHOENIX-UTAH-SAN ANTONIO (Seeds 3 to 6)
(Higher Seeded team has homecourt in first round unless otherwise indicated)

If Houston and San Antonio win:
3-San Antonio
4-Utah
5-Houston (homecourt)
6-Phoenix

If Houston, Utah and Phoenix win:
3-Utah
4-Phoenix
5-Houston (homecourt)
6-San Antonio

If Utah wins and Phoenix loses:
3-Utah
4-San Antonio
5-Houston
6-Phoenix

If San Antonio and Phoenix win and Houston loses:
3-San Antonio
4-Utah
5-Phoenix (homecourt)
6-Houston

If San Antonio wins and Houston and Phoenix lose:
3-San Antonio
4-Utah
5-Houston
6-Phoenix

If Utah and Phoenix win and Houston loses:
3-Utah
4-Phoenix
5-San Antonio
6-Houston

Best case scenario for San Antonio is Houston. Considering their recent play specifically on the offensive end, a match up against Utah or Phoenix would be a nightmare. Manu will be ready for the playoffs but they need a shooter like Barry to improve their spacing against the Jazz or the Suns. Unfortunately for them, Horry is a complete non factor because of injuries.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Best case scenario for San Antonio is Houston. Considering their recent play specifically on the offensive end, a match up against Utah or Phoenix would be a nightmare. Manu will be ready for the playoffs but they need a shooter like Barry to improve their spacing against the Jazz or the Suns. Unfortunately for them, Horry is a complete non factor because of injuries.

Looks like its gonna be like this:

3.  San Antonio
4.  Utah
5.  Houston
6.  Phoenix

*Houston will have homecourt advantage
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Looks like its gonna be like this:

3.  San Antonio
4.  Utah
5.  Houston
6.  Phoenix

*Houston will have homecourt advantage

Lagot. Hehe  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Challenging road for the Suns
Round 1: Spurs
Round 2: Dallas (Yes, I'm underestimating the Hornets)
Round 3: Lakers

 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Viewing parties na at  morning booze!!!  ;D ;D  Woohoo!!!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Challenging road for the Suns
Round 1: Spurs
Round 2: Dallas (Yes, I'm underestimating the Hornets)
Round 3: Lakers

 ;D


Can they beat any of those teams with a 7 man rotation? Baka bumigay na ulit yung mga paa ni Grant Hill at likod ni Steve Nash.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Don't forget Shaq's big toe  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26 AM
They are fortunate.....Big Shot Rob is injured.  Nobody to the hip checking on Nash.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: dobler on Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Don't forget Shaq's big toe  ;D

Actually hindi lang big toe kay Shaq. Buong katawan nya eh. Hehe  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM
First Round Play-off Match-ups
(1) LA Lakers vs (#8) Denver Nuggets
(2) New Orleans Hornets vs (7) Dallas Mavericks
(3) San Antonio Spurs vs (6) Phoenix Suns
(4) Utah Jazz vs (5) Houston Rockets

(1) Boston Celtics vs (#8) Atlanta Hawks
(2) Detroit Pistons vs (7) Philadelphia 76ers
(3) Orlando Magic vs (6) Toronto Raptors
(4) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (5) Washington Wizards


Match-up to Watch
San Antonio Spurs vs Phoenix Suns
Cleveland Cavaliers vs Washington Wizards


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: runner10 on Apr 17, 2008 at 01:58 PM
My fearless forecast...

For the East, I expect the 1-4 seeds to advance to the 2nd round.  Celtics vs Pistons for the Easter Final with Detroit representing the East.

For the West, I think the Mavs & Suns will upset their higher seeded opponents.  Lakers vs Suns in the West Final with the Suns winning in 7.

Suns then goes on to be World Champs.   ;D
Title: it's NBA play-offs time!
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 18, 2008 at 09:51 AM
which team do you think would emerge as champs?

as for me, i hope the steve nash-led phoenix suns would. :)
Title: Re: it's NBA play-offs time!
Post by: viperkid on Apr 18, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Lakers

Celtics Vs Lakers sa finals and Hornets vs Lakers sa West finals.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: Munskie on Apr 18, 2008 at 04:43 PM
Most exciting match-up would be Spurs-Suns.    Very hard to predict.   Almost evenly matched.   


Breaks of the game na lang ito at intangibles.....
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on Apr 18, 2008 at 07:13 PM
(AP) - A look at the eight first-round series in the NBA playoffs, which start on Saturday:

EASTERN CONFERENCE

No. 1 Boston Celtics (66-16) vs. No. 8 Atlanta Hawks (37-45)

Season series: Celtics 3-0. They won all three by double digits and didn't even need to play their Big Three in the fourth quarter of the last meeting to do it. Atlanta never reached 90 points in any of the three games. Kevin Garnett averaged 23.7 points and 13.7 rebounds while shooting 62.5 percent from the floor.

Storyline: After rolling to the NBA's best record in the largest one-season improvement in NBA history, the Celtics are back in the playoffs against the Hawks, who ended the league's longest postseason drought with their first appearance since 1999.

Key Matchup I: Garnett vs. Josh Smith. Garnett, a favorite for Defensive Player of the Year, against a player who should get some votes. Smith was in the league's top 10 in blocks and steals, but lacks Garnett's offensive skills and can get distracted yelling at referees, coaches or teammates. Nothing makes Garnett lose his focus.

Prediction: Celtics in 4.

No. 2 Detroit Pistons (59-23) vs. No. 7 Philadelphis 76ers (40-42)

Season series: Tied 2-2 after the 76ers won the last two meetings. Philadelphia averaged 80 points in the first three games before scoring 101 in a victory on April 9, when Richard Hamilton was out and none of Detroit's starters played 30 minutes.

Storyline: Picked to finish near the bottom in the East, the 76ers instead turned into one of the league's biggest surprises and made the playoffs for the first time in three years. The key was an 11-4 March that included a one-point win at Detroit.

Key matchup I: Chauncey Billups vs. Andre Miller. Miller averaged a career-high 17.1 points as the veteran leader on a young team. The 76ers will need him to be just as good against Billups, a clutch postseason performer who was in double figures in every game this season against Philadelphia.

Prediction: Pistons in 5.

No. 3 Orlando Magic (52-30) vs. No. 6 Toronto Raptors (41-41)

Season series: Magic, 2-1. Orlando found things to be pretty easy against Toronto on the offensive end, shooting 49 percent from the field and averaging 105.7 points. Chris Bosh scored 40 points in the Raptors' lone victory, but was out with an injury when the Magic clinched the season series with a 102-87 rout on March 4.

Storyline: Despite their 52 wins, the Magic are the overlooked team in the East, not considered much of a threat to Boston or Detroit, and this is their first chance to prove otherwise. Series matches two of the NBA's best 3-point shooting teams, but the Raptors will have to find a way to slow All-Star center Dwight Howard.

Key matchup I: Rashard Lewis vs. Bosh. The Magic are without a true power forward, using Lewis as an undersized 4, and now they have to face one of the best in the East. Bosh averaged 33 points against Orlando and should put up big numbers in this series. But Lewis creates his own matchup problems with his 3-point shooting and scored 20.7 per game against the Raptors.

Prediction: Magic in 6.

No. 4 Cleveland Cavaliers (45-37) vs. No. 5 Washington Wizards (43-39)

Season series: Tied 2-2. It's tough to gather much from the regular season, because the teams were never at full strength at the same time. Gilbert Arenas missed all four games, while All-Stars LeBron James and Caron Butler each sat out a loss because of injuries. James averaged 27 points, 10 rebounds and 7.7 assists in the three he played.

Storyline: Third straight year these teams are meeting in the first round. Cleveland won the previous two, sweeping a Washington team missing Arenas and Butler last year. The Cavaliers have lost just once at home in the previous two matchups with the Wizards.

Key matchup I: James vs. Butler. Butler averaged 23 points in Washington's two wins, but was limited to 10 in the one loss he played in. Anxious for a good performance after missing last year's series with an injury. Whichever of these players survives will be a nightmare for Boston in the second round.

Prediction: Wizards in 7.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

No. 1 Los Angeles Lakers (57-25) vs. No. 8 Denver Nuggets (50-32)

Season series: Lakers 3-0. All three meetings were in the first half of the season before the Lakers added Pau Gasol. Los Angeles shredded Denver for 118 points per game, only needing 22 per game from Kobe Bryant. Allen Iverson had 51 for Denver in one loss and averaged 32 points, but Carmelo Anthony managed only 20.7.

Storyline: A strong finish gave Bryant and the Lakers the No. 1 seed, but they get a dangerous first-round opponent that was only seven victories worse. Bryant (28.3), Iverson (26.4) and Anthony (25.7) ranked 2-3-4 on the NBA's scoring list.

Key matchup I: Bryant vs. Iverson. May not spend much time defending each other, but who cares? Two great scorers from the deep 1996 draft respect each other and both should put on a show. Lakers don't always need Bryant to score, but the Nuggets need points from Iverson.

Prediction: Lakers in 6.

No. 2 New Orleans Hornets (56-26) vs. No. 7 Dallas Mavericks (51-31)

Season series: Tied 2-2. The Mavericks earned the split to set up this series by beating the Hornets 111-98 on the last night of the season. The teams also split two meetings since Dallas acquired Jason Kidd, with the Hornets winning 104-93 in Kidd's Mavericks debut in the first game after the All-Star break.

Storyline: A year after losing in the first round as the No. 1 seed, the Mavericks are now the dangerous underdogs against a New Orleans team with little postseason experience.

Key matchup I: Chris Paul vs. Kidd. Paul had easily been getting the better of this matchup this season, both when Kidd was playing for New Jersey and Dallas, but the veteran collected his 100th career triple-double in the Mavs' victory in the season finale. Kidd struggles against Paul's speed, but always finds other ways to get by.

Prediction: Hornets in 7.

No. 3 San Antonio Spurs (56-26) vs. No. 6 Phoenix Suns (55-27)

Season series: Suns 3-1. Phoenix won both games after acquiring Shaquille O'Neal. Tim Duncan was a combined 15-for-40 in those two games, while O'Neal averaged 15 points and 12.5 rebounds. The Suns won twice in San Antonio.

Storyline: Second straight year these teams meet in the postseason. Spurs won last year's tense Western Conference semifinal in six games, aided by suspensions to the Suns' Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw in Game 5.

Key matchup I: Duncan vs. O'Neal and Stoudemire. Stoudemire was frequently in foul trouble trying to defend Duncan, but now is free of that responsibility with O'Neal there to do it. Duncan, one of the league's top low-post defenders, probably has to take turns defending both.

Prediction: Spurs in 7.

No. 4 Utah Jazz (54-28) vs. No. 5 Houston Rockets (55-27)

Season series: Jazz 2-1. They won the season series with a 105-96 victory on Monday. The Rockets handed the Jazz one of their four home losses with a 106-95 victory on Nov. 1.

Storyline: Rematch of a first-round series from a year ago, with similar circumstances. The Jazz are the No. 4 seed as a division champion, but the Rockets have home-court advantage because of their better record. That didn't help in 2007 - Utah won Game 7 at the Toyota Center.

Key Matchup I: Carlos Boozer vs. Luis Scola. Scola has played in numerous big games in Europe and the Olympics, where he helped Argentina win the gold medal in 2004. His first taste of postseason play in the NBA has him trying to contain Boozer, who led Utah with 21.1 points and 10.4 rebounds per game.

Prediction: Jazz in 6.


Title: Re: it's NBA play-offs time!
Post by: Hitman on Apr 19, 2008 at 08:53 AM
phoenix vs boston
 
or

san antonio vs boston will be exciting
Title: Re: it's NBA play-offs time!
Post by: d4nu65+3R on Apr 19, 2008 at 01:34 PM
phoenix na lang.  it's about time they got their turn in the sun.   ;D
Title: Re: it's NBA play-offs time!
Post by: kristerocky on Apr 19, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Celtics vs Lakers sa finals..
Celtics emerging as champs.. ;D
Title: Re: it's NBA play-offs time!
Post by: Marl☆1 on Apr 19, 2008 at 03:08 PM
TIME TO PLAY!!! INCOMING:

(http://www.nba.com/media/playoffs2008/matchup_0.jpg)

(http://www.nba.com/media/playoffs2008/matchup_1.jpg)

(http://www.nba.com/media/playoffs2008/matchup_2.jpg)

FOR ALL THE BALLERS:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/2424965804_e422b3a116_b.jpg)


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: X-®an™ on Apr 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM
My predictions:
(1) LA Lakers beats Denver Nuggets
(2) New Orleans Hornets loses to Dallas Mavericks
(3) San Antonio Spurs loses to Phoenix Suns
(4) Utah Jazz beats Houston Rockets

(1) Boston Celtics beats Atlanta Hawks
(2) Detroit Pistons beats Philadelphia 76ers
(3) Orlando Magic beats Toronto Raptors
(4) Cleveland Cavaliers loses to Washington Wizards
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 20, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Stoudewhiner must be very proud  ::)

"I just wanted to play aggressive, but the floppers prevailed today. Amare and myself are going to continue to play aggressive," O'Neal said of his foul trouble. "Hopefully those guys will compete rather than just fall down."


The Spurs were very lucky. I mean, being saved by a Duncan 3?!? But I'm sure Coach Pop will make adjustments.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on Apr 20, 2008 at 10:52 AM
The Basketball gods are still smiling on San Antonio....what a game!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: pekspert on Apr 20, 2008 at 11:14 AM
woke up early to wathc this series live and boy glad i did! this is the series to watch.. too bad though the san antonio dirtyfloppers prevailed :(   the officiating was really horrible in favor of the floppers just like last year when there was a dirty referee in favor of SA

the nba should really have a rule against flopping just like the NHL where a flop (called a dive in the NHL) gets a foul/penalty then maybe ginobili would foul out in just the 1st quarter ;D :D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on Apr 20, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I was really hoping for a third OT.  I just love intense play-off basketball.    ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: viperkid on Apr 21, 2008 at 07:53 AM
Lakers take game one and Gasol finally wins a playoff game.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on Apr 21, 2008 at 08:09 AM
Lakers take game one and Gasol finally wins a playoff game.

Yeah....big game for Pau, 36 points 16 rebs, 8 ast, 3 blks.   Impressive.  And thats against last years DPOY.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on Apr 21, 2008 at 09:01 AM
Upset special......76ers just beat Pistons in game 1 of their series.
Title: Re: it's NBA play-offs time!
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 21, 2008 at 09:27 AM
darn...the suns lost!  :'(
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 21, 2008 at 09:37 AM
I thought Nene was ready for the playoffs  :-\
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: blackie on Apr 21, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Upset special......76ers just beat Pistons in game 1 of their series.

Grrrrrrrr!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: runner10 on Apr 21, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Upset special......76ers just beat Pistons in game 1 of their series.

I am impressed with these group of Sixers.  No All-Star in their line-up. Just goes to show that hard work, intensity and teamwork gets the job done.  Of course, playing without anything to lose and everything to gain, worked in their favor.  Everybody was expecting the Pistons to sweep them.  
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Post by: pekspert on Apr 21, 2008 at 12:25 PM
i have a feeling the pistons will lose this series, i hope im wrong :o
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Post by: dobler on Apr 21, 2008 at 01:14 PM
yabang kasi ng detroit. yeah they're contenders but they only have one title to show for it. ika nga ni luke skywalker: "your over confidence is your weakness" hehe...
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Post by: runner10 on Apr 21, 2008 at 01:40 PM
i have a feeling the pistons will lose this series, i hope im wrong :o

I hope you are right!  If the Pistons get elimindated though, it gives Boston an easier path to the Finals.
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 21, 2008 at 02:37 PM
Just saw the schedule of BTV this week...medyo crappy yung line-up......No San Antonio-Phoenix?  >:(
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 21, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Just saw the schedule of BTV this week...medyo crappy yung line-up......No San Antonio-Phoenix?  >:(

it will be on espn.. 9.30 am..
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Post by: dobler on Apr 21, 2008 at 03:08 PM
it will be on espn.. 9.30 am..

what's the schedule on ESPN/Star? Is it still Friday's and Saturday's like the regular season?
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 21, 2008 at 03:16 PM
what's the schedule on ESPN/Star? Is it still Friday's and Saturday's like the regular season?

wednesdays and saturdays for espn.. fridays for star.. that's what their schedule shows..

http://www.espnstar.com/tvtimes/tvtimes_index.jsp
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 21, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Thanks boredfilmmaker!!


Just great..... ;D
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Post by: dobler on Apr 21, 2008 at 03:52 PM
i have a feeling the pistons will lose this series, i hope im wrong :o

things to consider:

1. all 4 games between the pistons and sixers during the season, decided by 8 points or less.
2. sixers are 10-0 in 1st round series when they win the opening game.
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Post by: Wiggum on Apr 21, 2008 at 08:16 PM
wednesdays and saturdays for espn.. fridays for star.. that's what their schedule shows..

http://www.espnstar.com/tvtimes/tvtimes_index.jsp

Thanks for this!  For those who continue to suffer as Skycable subscribers without BTV, here's the NBA telecast sked this week on ESPN/Star Sports/C/S Sports:

Wednesday, April 23 - PHX @ SAS, Game 2, 9:30 a.m. (ESPN)
Friday, April 25 - CLE @ WAS, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (STAR)
Saturday, April 26 - NOH @ DAL, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (ESPN)
Saturday, April 26 - SAS @ PHX, Game 3, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Sunday, April 27 - HOU @ UTAH, Game 4, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Monday, April 28 - NOH @ DAL, Game 4, 9:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)

Dang - no Laker games!  >:(

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Post by: Munskie on Apr 21, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Thanks for this!  For those who continue to suffer as Skycable subscribers without BTV, here's the NBA telecast sked this week on ESPN/Star Sports/C/S Sports:

Wednesday, April 23 - PHX @ SAS, Game 2, 9:30 a.m. (ESPN)
Friday, April 25 - CLE @ WAS, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (STAR)
Saturday, April 26 - NOH @ DAL, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (ESPN)
Saturday, April 26 - SAS @ PHX, Game 3, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Sunday, April 27 - HOU @ UTAH, Game 4, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Monday, April 28 - NOH @ DAL, Game 4, 9:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)

Dang - no Laker games!  >:(


meron, sa C/S ...on Thursday 1030 am game 2.  Just saw it in the BTV website..... ;) 
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Post by: dobler on Apr 21, 2008 at 08:49 PM
meron, sa C/S ...on Thursday 1030 am game 2.  Just saw it in the BTV website..... ;) 
Thanks for this!  For those who continue to suffer as Skycable subscribers without BTV, here's the NBA telecast sked this week on ESPN/Star Sports/C/S Sports:

Wednesday, April 23 - PHX @ SAS, Game 2, 9:30 a.m. (ESPN)
Friday, April 25 - CLE @ WAS, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (STAR)
Saturday, April 26 - NOH @ DAL, Game 3, 8:00 a.m. (ESPN)
Saturday, April 26 - SAS @ PHX, Game 3, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Sunday, April 27 - HOU @ UTAH, Game 4, 10:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)
Monday, April 28 - NOH @ DAL, Game 4, 9:30 a.m. (C/S Sports)


Dang - no Laker games!  >:(





Salamat. Why do I suddenly long for the days of Sky Cable's NHK feed? I still remember watching the Bulls-Jazz game when Jordan had the stomach flu. Live clear feed with no commercials. Hay those were the days... hehe...
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:17 AM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0804/nba.playoffs.si.bestshots/images/076240802.jpg)

NBA 2008 Sixth Man Awardee
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:30 AM
He's really not a "Sixth Man" is he?
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Post by: john5479 on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:39 AM
He comes off the bench so technically he's a "Sixth Man". He can easily be a starter though ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:41 AM
I think he came off the bench 51 of the 74 games he played.   I dont know the exact NBA ruling on being a sixth man nominee.
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:53 AM
The NBA should change rules regarding the sixth man. Just imagine Kobe or LeBron coming off the bench. And if SA becomes champion, Manu will be Sixth Man and Finals MVP.
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Post by: john5479 on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:11 AM
So given the chance, who would you think should be the sixth man awardee this season?
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:16 AM
I'm a Suns fan so I'd pick Leandro.
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Post by: john5479 on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Not bad, he was my second choice. Leandro can start for other teams as well though.
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Not bad, he was my second choice. Leandro can start for other teams as well though.

Yeah, but not for any team. I wouldn't start him on the Suns. That would be too reckless ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Im on level on what bumblebee is thinking. 

The NBA ruling is simple:

To be eligible for the award, a player must come in off of the bench in more games than he starts. The winner is voted on by a group of basketball journalists.


But come to think of it, to be more appropriate, the sixth man should not play starter's minutes too. 

Ginobili and Barbosa's minutes per game average are 31 and 29 minutes respectively.
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Post by: john5479 on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:42 AM
That's the thing, they come off the bench but play for the majority of the game, even finish the game or in manu's case take the winning shot ;D Lets turn it the other way around, how about a "sixth man" getting props and be named to the all nba team?
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:56 AM
For me, the sixth man should not be all-star caliber.
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:56 AM
1982-1983    Bobby Jones    Philadelphia 76ers   24mpg
1983-1984    Kevin McHale    Boston Celtics   31mpg
1984-1985    Kevin McHale    Boston Celtics    34mpg
1985-1986    Bill Walton    Boston Celtics     19mpg
1986-1987    Ricky Pierce    Milwaukee Bucks     32mpg
1987-1988    Roy Tarpley    Dallas Mavericks   29mpg
1988-1989    Eddie Johnson    Phoenix Suns    29mpg
1989-1990    Ricky Pierce    Milwaukee Bucks   29mpg
1990-1991    Detlef Schrempf    Indiana Pacers    32mpg
1991-1992    Detlef Schrempf    Indiana Pacers  33mpg
1992-1993    Clifford Robinson    Portland Trail Blazers    31mpg
1993-1994    Dell Curry    Charlotte Hornets   27mpg
1994-1995    Anthony Mason    New York Knicks    32mpg
1995-1996    Toni Kukoč    Chicago Bulls     26mpg
1996-1997    John Starks    New York Knicks    27mpg
1997-1998    Danny Manning    Phoenix Suns    26mpg
1998-1999    Darrell Armstrong    Orlando Magic   30mpg
1999-2000    Rodney Rogers    Phoenix Suns   28mpg
2000-2001    Aaron McKie    Philadelphia 76ers    32mpg
2001-2002    Corliss Williamson    Detroit Pistons   22mpg
2002-2003    Bobby Jackson    Sacramento Kings  28mpg
2003-2004    Antawn Jamison    Dallas Mavericks   29mpg
2004-2005    Ben Gordon    Chicago Bulls   24mpg
2005-2006    Mike Miller    Memphis Grizzlies   31mpg
2006-2007    Leandro Barbosa    Phoenix Suns   33mpg
2007-2008    Manu Ginóbili     San Antonio Spurs   31mpg

After researching.......I am pretty sure that Manu's award is legit.   He's not even the winner with highest minutes played on the average.   That belongs to Kevin McHale, at 34 mpg. 
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 11:02 AM
For me, the sixth man should not be all-star caliber.
  IMHO, it shouldnt matter what caliber the player is.  If I have the power to change eligibilty rules for the nominees, here are my take:

1.  Should come off the bench 60% of the games he played.
2.  Should not average more than 28 mpg  (I just feel more than this, you are already playing starter's minutes)

Then the media voters can choose who they think is the most productive bench player and whose contributions greatly helped the cause of the team.

Classic example based on my criteria

1.  Toni Kukoc--  95-96   13ppg on 26mpg, becoming the third wheel in the magical 72-10 season of the Chicago Bulls.

2.  Ben Gordon--  04-05  15.1ppg on 24mpg, helping the Bulls come back to the play-offs for the 1st time since the Jordan era.

@  I was wondering as I was posting the list of the winners...no Vinnie "Microwave" Johnson of the old Piston Bad Boys?
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2008 at 11:16 AM
But Munskie, the sixth man can't be your team's best player. Manu has been a go-to-guy for the Spurs most of the season. All-star caliber players should be nominated for the MVP, not the sixth man award.

I admit Kukoc is all-star caliber (I should have qualified my post, my apologies). But Pippen and Rodman are too.
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 11:37 AM
But Munskie, the sixth man can't be your team's best player. Manu has been a go-to-guy for the Spurs most of the season. All-star caliber players should be nominated for the MVP, not the sixth man award.

I admit Kukoc is all-star caliber (I should have qualified my post, my apologies). But Pippen and Rodman are too.

Oh well, only 1 of the 124 media voters might agree with you.   Manu got 123 first place votes.   It doesnt matter if he is the Spurs best player this season.  He is eligible.  Yes, he is an all-star caliber player, but he came off the bench more than he started.   Just happened that his contribution has been somewhat more meaningful all season long against his more celebrated teammates like Parker and Duncan.

On the other hand, if the NBA hears my plea on my criteria, no superstar or all-star caliber will qualify.   No player of that caliber will play for paltry average of less than 28 minutes per game.    ;)

But if  someone puts up all-star caliber numbers within that limit, then he truly deserves the NBA Sixth Man awardee.   
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 01:34 PM
Cavs-Wizards 2-0 na

and so is Utah, 2 up on Houston.


Looks like Arenas and Stevenson are shooting themselves on the mouth.....nagalit tuloy ang Da King.
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Post by: RNIverson on Apr 22, 2008 at 03:07 PM
No one will dare to call him overrated again  8)  I hope the Cavs sweep the Wiz
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 22, 2008 at 03:11 PM
No one will dare to call him overrated again  8)  I hope the Cavs sweep the Wiz

What is with these athletes making these ridiculous predictions??  Almost all of them shoot themselves with their mouth.....except maybe Joe Namath.....

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Post by: john5479 on Apr 23, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Looks like New Orleans will go up 2-0 against Dallas, Chris Paul is running circles around Kidd  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 23, 2008 at 09:51 AM
The more Chris Paul puts up huge numbers, the more I believe that Dallas made a mistake in trading for Kidd while giving up Harris and Diop.

 
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Post by: john5479 on Apr 23, 2008 at 09:53 AM
It all started when dallas traded steve nash ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 23, 2008 at 09:55 AM
It all started when dallas traded steve nash ;D
actually, they didnt resign him and Nash left for free agency...
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Post by: john5479 on Apr 23, 2008 at 10:07 AM
I stand corrected, Dallas should have just tried to keep Nash instead of making changes which is like what they do every year.
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 23, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Cuban didn't think Nash is gonna stay healthy for long so he let him go.
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Post by: RNIverson on Apr 23, 2008 at 12:15 PM
IMO Dallas needed that change before. With Nash, they're just pure offense, no D

3 mins to go and Spurs will have a 2-0 lead!!! Hang on Spurs!
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Post by: bumblebee on Apr 23, 2008 at 01:05 PM
I believe Avery brought D to Dallas, not Nash's going.

Talo na naman Suns :'(
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 23, 2008 at 05:43 PM
The Dallas and Phoenix Gamble on the trades are not panning out so far the way they envisioned them to be.

Dallas traded for Jason Kidd, but his defense on Paul so far is atrocious, allowing him to get a 2 game average of 33.5ppg 13.5apg while shooting uber hot 64% on FG shooting.  While team defense is more to blame, I have to state that Kidd has lost some of his lateral movement that has helped him become a 4 time first team all-defense and 5-time 2nd team all-defense.

Phoenix has somewhat lost its run and gun mentality that made them exciting to watch.  They were outscored, 23-4 on fastbreak points by the very methodical (and boring but effective) Spurs.  And Shaq isnt doing a good job his teammates when the speed guys drives the lane..

At least Miami got a NBA championship to show when they mortagaged their future.
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Post by: RNIverson on Apr 24, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Wow, 20pts for Kobe on the 1st Qtr. Nice defense Nuggs  :-[
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Post by: garee on Apr 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 24, 2008 at 02:16 PM
LA 2-0 up vs Denver.

Denver...1 pass.  Shoot.  1 pass.  Shoot.  That was all game long.   Result?  Only 12 assists, compared to 33 assists for LA.   

I have a theory why Camby leads the league in blocks.   He constantly cleans up the mess when his teammates are being passed on by slashers in the paint.   If Denver aims to come back in the series, they should exert more effort in team defense, and improve their shot selection.   
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Post by: dobler on Apr 24, 2008 at 02:38 PM
team defense

Sadly it's not part of their vocabulary. Hehe. I still expect them to win one game though. Fans in Denver will sure try to remind Kobe of his legal problems before. Drama talaga ng playoffs.

Nag laro pala si Coby Karl since Turiaf was out with tonsillitis. Father coaching against his son. Cool that.
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 24, 2008 at 03:37 PM
Charles Barkley said that the Nuggets are really "Enver".   Coz they got no "D".
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Post by: edboy7 on Apr 24, 2008 at 04:24 PM
it's nice to hear Marv Albert saying
"Kobe for three! He is on fire!" 8)
If they could stop Kobe which I doubt next prob would be the passing Odom to Gasol :) 
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Post by: RNIverson on Apr 24, 2008 at 05:55 PM
GS Warriors should've replaced the Nuggs in the playoffs. At least the series will be more exciting. Better yet, the Rockets should've dropped. They were just lucky with their 22 wins.
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Post by: Battousai on Apr 26, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Phoenix now down 0-3 against Team Duncan (I love that name for the Spurs, courtesy of an ESPN columnist) thanks to Tony Parker's 41 points and an early lead for San Antonio. I think Steve Nash hasn't really been in the groove in this series (credit that to Spurs defense coz I don't see any bloody noses this time around). I bet the Suns wish they still had Shawn Marion and still running their oppenents to the ground. But hey, the series needs 4 to win and until SA picks up another W, Phoenix fans shouldn't label the Shaq experiment a failure.

Another shocker is the Sixers a$$ whoopin of the Deeetroit Pistons. I thought this was gonna be an interesting match-up right from the start coz The Sixers have always played the Pistons tough. But to dismantle the Pistons like that, even at home, that was really unexpected. Billups and Rasheed didn't show up for the Pistons in game 3 and they should thank their lucky stars that Andre Iguodala hasn't shown up, either. Sixers up 2-1. Hope they win the series.

Boring series so far has to be Boston vs Atlanta. With the way the Celtics are playing, they should just advance Boston to the second round by default...or better yet, replace the Hawks with the Warriors just to make things interesting. But hey, I'd love for the Hawks to prove me wrong here. Just win one game, d@mnit!

Washington-Cleveland. Hmm...I dunno what Deshawn Stevenson was smoking when he proclaimed Lebron James overrated, but you have to at least respect LBJ for what he did last year, guiding a not-so-impressive Cleveland team to the Finals (and beating Detroit in the ECF at that!), even if it was still a weak East. I'll give this series to Cleveland, if only to see Lebron ask Stevenson if he's still overrated.
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Post by: Munskie on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:31 PM
   Ten Things I Think I Think About Phoenix-San Antonio Game 3

1.  I think it is wrong for the league to seriously consider any requests to disallow any type of Hack-a-Shaq strategy.   My take: you are a Pro, you should make freethrows.

2.  I think when the announcers say that to effectively defend a left-handed Giniobili, you must cover his left side.   But this guy shoots his 3's better when fading to his right.   Easier to say, much harder to do.

3.  I think when Popovich calls the Hack-A-Shaq strategy, the missed freethrows are a bonus.   The big pay-off is the Suns cannot dictate any tempo for a series of plays.   Its a big confidence downer too.   Popovich is a very good strategist.

4.  I think the Spurs made Flopping an art.    In today's NBA where you can't touch perimeter players anymore, its actually part of a very good defense.

5.  I think Shaq is really a very poor defender in the pick and roll.   San Antonio has really figured it out...even in his Laker days.

6.  I think Stoudamire's game will dip the time he has no Steve Nash.   He thrives on their pick and roll play, and this is no secret:  he has no go-to isolation post moves, except for that face-up jumper.

7.  I think San Antonio still doesnt get enough respect.   The past few years they have been written off as an old team.   But come play-off time, they just know how to flick on the switch.   But theyll be busier this offseason.   The Lakers and the Blazers will be big next season.

8.  I think Shaq should retire by season's end.   His iso move is basically the jump hook.  No more baseline spin move.  No more up and under power move.  And he still cant shoot freethrows.  The Suns fans needs a rebate.

9.  I think I cant believe the Suns Fans booed their own team.  They miss Shawn Marion.   They are out to get Steve Kerr's head.

10.  I think San Antonio played one of their best play-off games in Game 3.   Its boring, but they were merciless and very efficient.   Like a machine.
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Post by: X-®an™ on Apr 26, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Spurs-Suns Series

From being branded as the series to watch... to a possible sweep.. this series has really fooled everyone including me.  Without Marion, Nash is being exposed as a very, very weak defender.  And without their 3-point shooters, his only option is Amare.  Remind me again, why they gave him 2 MVP awards.

As for the Spurs, the Lakers will see you in the WCF... of course, if they can get past the Mavericks.  ;D
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Post by: X-®an™ on Apr 27, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Can the Nuggets win at least one?

Can the Suns avoid getting embarrassed?  It's either Kerr's or D'Antoni's ass who's on the line.

Can the Pistons win in Game 4 to reclaim home court advantage?

Will Soulja Boy's presence help the Wizards win one again?


This playoffs really is one for the ages!!!

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Post by: RNIverson on Apr 27, 2008 at 02:45 PM
Will Soulja Boy's presence help the Wizards win one again?

A better question, will Jay-z show up for Game 4?  ;D
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Post by: X-®an™ on Apr 27, 2008 at 08:50 PM
A better question, will Jay-z show up for Game 4?  ;D

If you were to believe Lebron's analogy, you'd say "No".  An unproven king can sometimes say the darndest things.  ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on Apr 27, 2008 at 09:29 PM
Random thoughts on this year's playoffs (so far):

* San Antonio is definitely proving why they're the defending champions.  I think they can handle whoever will advance in the NOH-DAL series, and will be tested in the Western Conference Finals in what should be a classic match-up with the Lakers (I hope).  :)  If the Lakers will return to the NBA Finals, it's only fitting that they hurdle the Spurs to get there. 

* About the NOH-DAL series, I have a feeling this will go the distance, with Dallas scoring an upset.

* I feel sorry for Phoenix.  Looks like their window is gradually closing with fading superstars on their roster.  Steve Kerr will probably pull the trigger on more major changes in the off-season.

* I hope Denver puts up a better fight, what with a roster like that.  The Lakers need the challenge, in the same way that Boston is now being tested by Atlanta.

* Houston will not go far in the playoffs without Yao.  Sorry, T-Mac.

* Everyone was expecting the Western Conference match-ups to be more fun to watch.  But so far, the first round match-ups in the East are showing more promise and drama.

* I hope Atlanta wins Game 4.  The Celtics are still expected to advance, but another Atlanta win will turn this battle into a war.

* Byron Scott will probably win Coach of the Year, but they should give it to Maurice Cheeks for what he has done to the 76ers.  The DET-PHI series looks like it will go the distance, but I have a feeling the Pistons will still advance.

* I hope Cleveland wins its series vs. WAS.  BOS-CLE in the East semifinals!

* Does anyone really care who wins in the ORL-TOR series?  :)

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jeyps11_c on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:24 AM
Phoenix beating SA badly but still needs a miracle to win this series.
Raja Bell was on fire the entire game.
Also, I think the Suns just discovered a possible weakness in the Spurs arnesal -- Diaw.
SA can't find a match up to neutralize Diaw in the post.
Pop is a great coach and will find a way to slow it down -- just like how the Suns played Parker in the pick-and-roll.
By the way, I got to watch Game 3 live :)....but it sucked because Suns got blown out of the game :(

My pick:
LA and NO in the West
BOS and ORL --> just because the CAVS and BOS meet in the Semis
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on Apr 28, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Five Things I Think I Think about Dallas Mavericks (after game 4)

1. I think it is a pretty hard fall for Mark Cuban and his team. Picked to contend the last two years, and losing the NBA title two years ago (Sorry Miami, you didn't win it, Dallas lost it), losing in the first round two years running is pretty painful. Especially if you have mortgaged your future getting Jason Kidd.

2. I think trading or signing for veterans like Kidd or Shaq has serious drawback. You are trading for what they used to be. Lakers found it out with they signed Malone and Payton in 2004. But at least they were only given 1 year contracts, and they were free agents. Hard pill to swallow when you given up much but took less in return. Dallas and Phoenix needs some rebate. Somewhere, Marion and Harris are smiling.

3. I think Josh Howard was pretty frank and honest but practices poor judgement. It doesn't give you smart points for blurting out that you smoked weed in the middle of a series you are trailing. And then follow it up with a stinking 6 point 3 for 16 shooting performance. Now Cuban and Avery has someone to blame. Kidd will thank him for it.

4. I think Coach K should give CP3 serious consideration for a roster spot in Team USA in the Beijing Olympics. He should give Kidd's slot instead.

5. I think Avery Johnson's job is secured. But I'm not the owner. The impatient Mark Cuban is.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: wedge on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM

* Does anyone really care who wins in the ORL-TOR series?  :)

Well, I do. Hehe ;D. Btw, Orlando won the series, so it's going to be an interesting round 2 in the East. The problem with Orlando, the way I see it, is their consistency. Personally, I don't expect them to live through Detroit (if the Pistons knock the Sixers in the first round), though it would be a tough series.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM
2-2 na Atlanta-Boston.. mas may drama pa yung East playoffs compared to the West..
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dobler on Apr 29, 2008 at 11:55 AM
2-2 na Atlanta-Boston.. mas may drama pa yung East playoffs compared to the West..

Atlanta and Philadelphia. Pesky buggers. Hehe
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: viperkid on Apr 29, 2008 at 02:57 PM
Lakers swept the Nuggets. I guess even Nuggets with Iverson doesn't have an answer to the Lakers. ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on Apr 29, 2008 at 07:16 PM
ESPN will air Game 5 of the Hornets-Mavs series tomorrow, 7 a.m. and another game on Saturday (I'm praying it's Game 6 of the Celtics-Hawks series  :-\)  Star Sports should also air one on Friday, probably Game 6 of the Pistons-76ers series.  Any news on what C/S Sports plans to show this week?

Hirap talaga pag walang Basketball TV at this time of the year.  >:( 
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Post by: viperkid on Apr 30, 2008 at 01:22 AM
Hopefully Mavs win tomorrow.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: blackie on Apr 30, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Not looking good for Mavs right now.........
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: viperkid on Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Dallas has been eliminated.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: blackie on Apr 30, 2008 at 10:22 AM
DEEEE-TROIT!!! B_A_S__K_E_T_B_A_L_L!!!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 30, 2008 at 10:44 AM
I love it when everyone's complaining about the Hack-a-Shaq strategy NOW that the Suns are losing when it's been used by past coaches as well.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: sanmig_ph on Apr 30, 2008 at 11:03 AM
tony parker so FEARless binabastos lang si shaq.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jeyps11_c on Apr 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM
How about refs helping the Spurs clich the series. What a bad call by that ref after Bowen tapped the ball. It was clear that it never touched Nash...the refs signal was it went off of his leg after the tap. All series long Parker initiates the contact and gets the whistle. Thomas flops all the time and gets the whistle. But the Suns free throw shooting did them. If they made half of what they missed we will be seeing game 7.

Let's see if the Spurs can work their magic with the Hornets -- who are better defenders than the Suns. Plus Parker will find a good match up against Chris Paul.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 30, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Phoenix is gone as well.. Houston, on the other hand, lives to fight another day.. interested to see how New Orleans is going to play against the Spurs..
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on Apr 30, 2008 at 01:01 PM
Phoenix and Dallas will be licking their wounds this off-season, after their mid-season trades didnt work for them this season.  Experts weighed in, and the future is dim too.   They mortagaged their future for two aging stars.   
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dobler on Apr 30, 2008 at 02:19 PM
Phoenix and Dallas will be licking their wounds this off-season

mas masakit yung financial wounds...
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: viperkid on Apr 30, 2008 at 05:22 PM
They mortagaged their future for two aging stars.   
Exactly, Shaq is already past his prime while Shawn Marion is in his prime same goes with Kidd and Harris. The only big deal trade that worked was for the Lakers.

Go Lakers!!! ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 01, 2008 at 07:50 AM
So, Dallas just fired Avery Johnson.. it's really going to be a busy off-season for the Mavs..
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: john5479 on May 01, 2008 at 08:09 AM
The Suns had a lot of opportunities so saying that officiating was the main culprit is something I dont buy. Its the hornets that will be in for a challenge, the spurs will change strategies depending on the teams they face.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 08:14 AM
Tony Parker so nasty i think he's the best take charge point guard in the NBA today. He's improving his game every year i can still remember in the championship series against Detroit some years back na nagkakalat pa yan due to inexperience and Coach Popovich would pull him out everytime na masakit na sya tingnan sa court. Over the years he improved tremendously and is now San Antonio's take charge guy. He along w/ Manu Ginobili form the NBA's deadlist penetrating backcourt tandem i've ever seen in years. They create there own plays by slashing thru defenses thus freeing Duncan for dunks and setting up jump shooters like Bowen , Finley and Barry. My heart is w/ the LAKERS< i love to see a LAKERS CELTICS finale but the way SAN ANTONIO's playing, its hard to tell. We'll see more of PARKER against Chris Paul and i wont be surprised he's up to the challenge and take it personal against PAUL who i predict is gona be the Regular Season MVP for leading NEW ORLEANS to the second seed in the western playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 08:17 AM
So, Dallas just fired Avery Johnson.. it's really going to be a busy off-season for the Mavs..
Its time for him to go out. Mark Cuban has invested a lot on DALLAS in thats why he impatient he want results and quick.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 01, 2008 at 08:38 AM
My prediction.....Kobe will win MVP.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on May 01, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Its time for him to go out. Mark Cuban has invested a lot on DALLAS in thats why he impatient he want results and quick.

Yeah.  Too bad for Avery.  He was under too much pressure to deliver.  But a large part of the blame should be pinned on some of the Mavs.  But I'm sure we'll see Avery coaching some other team soon.  I just hope they don't make him a commentator with that big mouth of his.  :)

Game 5 of BOS-ATL on C/S Sports na!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 09:20 AM
My prediction.....Kobe will win MVP.
kobe is the more celebrated player of the two. He's a good plAYER W/ TREMENDOUS TALENT BUT HE DOESNT HAVE THE LEADERSHIP QUALITY OF cHRIS pAUL. i DONT THINK THE lAKERS WOULD HAVE GONE THIS FAR W/O THE gASOL TRADE W/C ADDS DEPTH TO THEIR TEAM AN INSIDE SCORER AND A VERSATILE BIG MAN gasol makes Bryant look better whereas at new orleans its really Paul leading the show w/ tremendous performances and it really cause the turn around for his teams success this year. I dont like chris paul but his performance has convinced me that he deserves to be MVP
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: X-®an™ on May 01, 2008 at 10:57 AM
kobe is the more celebrated player of the two. He's a good plAYER W/ TREMENDOUS TALENT BUT HE DOESNT HAVE THE LEADERSHIP QUALITY OF cHRIS pAUL. i DONT THINK THE lAKERS WOULD HAVE GONE THIS FAR W/O THE gASOL TRADE W/C ADDS DEPTH TO THEIR TEAM AN INSIDE SCORER AND A VERSATILE BIG MAN gasol makes Bryant look better whereas at new orleans its really Paul leading the show w/ tremendous performances and it really cause the turn around for his teams success this year. I dont like chris paul but his performance has convinced me that he deserves to be MVP

Huh?  No leadership qualities?  Have you watched any of the Lakers game before they got Gasol?

With or without the Gasol trade, the Lakers are contenders because of Kobe.  CP3 is good, but for me, David West is the key to defeating New Orleans.  Shut down West and you can shut down NO.

And don't give me that sh!t about CP3 making his team mates better, West was already a double-double monster before CP3.  Peja has always been a deadly shooter.  And, Chandler was a defensive monster in Chicago.  (Chicago really erred big time when they chosed Big Ben over Chandler).
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Huh?  No leadership qualities?  Have you watched any of the Lakers game before they got Gasol?

With or without the Gasol trade, the Lakers are contenders because of Kobe.  CP3 is good, but for me, David West is the key to defeating New Orleans.  Shut down West and you can shut down NO.

And don't give me that sh!t about CP3 making his team mates better, West was already a double-double monster before CP3.  Peja has always been a deadly shooter.  And, Chandler was a defensive monster in Chicago.  (Chicago really erred big time when they chosed Big Ben over Chandler).

Do you think the Lakers will be at the top of the west w/o the Gasol trade? I think they land 5th or sixth in the west w/o Gasol in the line up. And pls do remember that ANDREW BYNUM was injured so w/o Gasol and that kinda tough race in the west, the LAKERS wont even stand a chance at the top. Kobe's a selfish player far from the class of JORDAN. Anyway thats just my personal opinion. U can think your way i can think my way. It doesnt really matter if the MVP goes to KOBE but my vote stays w/ CHRIS PAUL
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: sardaukar on May 01, 2008 at 11:57 AM
One of the columnists from ESPN described Kobe and CP this way:

Kobe's teammates are afraid of him. He's got your back as long as you don't screw up.

CP on the other hand commands the respect of his teammates. They'll go to war with him.

I agree with that assessment.


With regard to MVP, though, I'd give it to Kobe, but that's just me.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 01, 2008 at 12:56 PM
kobe is the more celebrated player of the two. He's a good plAYER W/ TREMENDOUS TALENT BUT HE DOESNT HAVE THE LEADERSHIP QUALITY OF cHRIS pAUL. i DONT THINK THE lAKERS WOULD HAVE GONE THIS FAR W/O THE gASOL TRADE W/C ADDS DEPTH TO THEIR TEAM AN INSIDE SCORER AND A VERSATILE BIG MAN gasol makes Bryant look better whereas at new orleans its really Paul leading the show w/ tremendous performances and it really cause the turn around for his teams success this year. I dont like chris paul but his performance has convinced me that he deserves to be MVP

Wow.  My short statement ruffled some feathers.   I didnt say who is more deserving over the other.  Whoever wins, between Kobe and CP3, they both deserve it.   

But to say that Kobe doesnt have the leadership quality of Chris Paul, now thats another matter.   Here are some figures that would challenge some of your statements, particularly those underestimating Kobe and his leadership.   For your information, Pau Gasol played only 26 games for the Lakers this year, and Bynum 35 games.  So for you to overestimate their contributions and question Kobe's is rather unfair.   Somebody has to keep the team afloat during those games when they only have Turiaf or Mbenga playing Center.   And to do that while playing with an injured finger in his shooting hand requiring surgery, it say a lot of his resolve in winning games.   

Kobe is playing the best team ball in his life, and is doing it in a higher echelon level only Lebron can presently reach.  And he is doing it in a team whose general health is far below that Chris Paul had enjoyed.   

And oh by the way, you dont have to post with some caps letters......I get your point, I just dont agree with it.


Marc Stein's MVP Ballot

"For all of Paul's undeniable brilliance -- and for all of you who can't wait to angrily dismiss this as a lifetime achievement award for the guy considered the best player to never win an MVP award -- I'm sorry. But Bryant had to deal with and do more this season than even CP3.

Bryant has seen more double- and triple-teams and junk defenses. He's endured a far lower grade of overall team health; Andrew Bynum will end up having played less than half the season and Pau Gasol has missed 11 games just since his Feb. 1 arrival in Los Angeles. Kobe has also played through a hand injury of his own that still requires surgery and is asked by his coach and teammates to be All-NBA at both ends, all while shouldering higher expectations than those of any other player in the league."


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 01, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Do you think the Lakers will be at the top of the west w/o the Gasol trade? I think they land 5th or sixth in the west w/o Gasol in the line up. And pls do remember that ANDREW BYNUM was injured so w/o Gasol and that kinda tough race in the west, the LAKERS wont even stand a chance at the top.

Yun nga eh......Kobe still led this team to the top of the WC, with Bynum playing only 35 games, and Gasol only 25 games (he was injured for 9 games after the trade).   

Kobe's a selfish player far from the class of JORDAN. Anyway thats just my personal opinion. U can think your way i can think my way. It doesnt really matter if the MVP goes to KOBE but my vote stays w/ CHRIS PAUL

Oh cmon, Jordan is also selfish in his younger days with Chicago.   Kobe gets this media hate because he has  arrogance that ruffles the feathers of anybody that isnt a Laker fan.   I am not out here to bash Jordan, I am and still a Jordan fan, but really, you woudnt be a top scorer in the league without being a little selfish right?   And they were forced to take matters too.   Kobe played with the likes of Smush and Kwame, and Jordan played with the likes of Brad Sellers etc.   But when the roster complemented the triangle offense that they both played, they played within the system.  Just like what Kobe is doing now.   

I'll hate Kobe too if im not a Laker fan.  But I am.  And just love it when people react when he succeeds.
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Post by: kimpOy on May 01, 2008 at 02:17 PM
ah KOBE its either you like him or hate him he..he

oh rumors has it that mike d antoni is out too..tsk tsk too bad that cant fire amare stouamire (no D... he..he)
 
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Battousai on May 01, 2008 at 05:00 PM
"If Kobe hasn’t won it,” James said. “I got no chance.”* (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-lebronsmvpcase&prov=ap&type=lgns)
 *LBJ asked about his MVP chances.

Game respects game.

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: X-®an™ on May 01, 2008 at 05:51 PM
Do you think the Lakers will be at the top of the west w/o the Gasol trade? I think they land 5th or sixth in the west w/o Gasol in the line up. And pls do remember that ANDREW BYNUM was injured so w/o Gasol and that kinda tough race in the west, the LAKERS wont even stand a chance at the top. Kobe's a selfish player far from the class of JORDAN. Anyway thats just my personal opinion. U can think your way i can think my way. It doesnt really matter if the MVP goes to KOBE but my vote stays w/ CHRIS PAUL

Do you think the Hornets will be in 2nd place in the Western Conference without David West?  This what-if scenarios are just that, what-ifs.  The Lakers have Gasol, and they won the West race.  That's reality!  And if Kobe doesn't win it, uh-oh... you'll know he'll try to win Finals MVP instead.

Let's just try this one instead, if the Lakers were to trade Kobe with CP3... I'm very positive that the Hornets with agree in a heartbeat.  The Lakers on the other hand wouldn't even consider a trade of Kobe for CP3 and West.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 05:56 PM
Wow.  My short statement ruffled some feathers.   I didnt say who is more deserving over the other.  Whoever wins, between Kobe and CP3, they both deserve it.   

But to say that Kobe doesnt have the leadership quality of Chris Paul, now thats another matter.   Here are some figures that would challenge some of your statements, particularly those underestimating Kobe and his leadership.   For your information, Pau Gasol played only 26 games for the Lakers this year, and Bynum 35 games.  So for you to overestimate their contributions and question Kobe's is rather unfair.   Somebody has to keep the team afloat during those games when they only have Turiaf or Mbenga playing Center.   And to do that while playing with an injured finger in his shooting hand requiring surgery, it say a lot of his resolve in winning games.   

Kobe is playing the best team ball in his life, and is doing it in a higher echelon level only Lebron can presently reach.  And he is doing it in a team whose general health is far below that Chris Paul had enjoyed.   

And oh by the way, you dont have to post with some caps letters......I get your point, I just dont agree with it.


Marc Stein's MVP Ballot

"For all of Paul's undeniable brilliance -- and for all of you who can't wait to angrily dismiss this as a lifetime achievement award for the guy considered the best player to never win an MVP award -- I'm sorry. But Bryant had to deal with and do more this season than even CP3.

Bryant has seen more double- and triple-teams and junk defenses. He's endured a far lower grade of overall team health; Andrew Bynum will end up having played less than half the season and Pau Gasol has missed 11 games just since his Feb. 1 arrival in Los Angeles. Kobe has also played through a hand injury of his own that still requires surgery and is asked by his coach and teammates to be All-NBA at both ends, all while shouldering higher expectations than those of any other player in the league."



i think i just hurt a kobe diehard here in this forum. Well thats how i see it and and thats how i will say it. Some of you may agree and some may not. Everybody's entitle to his or her own opinion right? End of discussion.
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Post by: Munskie on May 01, 2008 at 06:44 PM
i think i just hurt a kobe dieheart here in this forum. Well thats how i see it and and thats how i will say it. Some of you may agree and some may not. Everybody's entitle to his or her own opinion right? End of discussion.
  Well,  a long time Laker fan do have the right to discuss against shortsighted comments.   And when Kobe gets MVP, at least most of the media voters, who by the way have more expert insight than us,  would agree with me.   

Again, Im not saying that CP3 doesnt deserve it if he wins.   Ill applaud him too for a job well done.   He really did a great job leading that NO team.

Its just that you're being bias and  shortsighted  if you will diss Kobe's accomplishments this season just like that.    Just like your previous posts indicated.


Oh by the way...whats a dieheart??  ;D ;D

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Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 07:16 PM
dude as i have said end of discussion i will not engage in a word war w/ u becoz of kobe bryant. U think kobe is MVP thats ur opinion. I think Chris Paul is MVP thats my opinion. This is a forum dude we are suppose to relate and share our opinions w/ one another. There's no sense arguing w/ one another. We make our comments based on observations and beliefs, do pros and cons and eventually we conclude.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 07:51 PM
Do you think the Hornets will be in 2nd place in the Western Conference without David West?  This what-if scenarios are just that, what-ifs.  The Lakers have Gasol, and they won the West race.  That's reality!  And if Kobe doesn't win it, uh-oh... you'll know he'll try to win Finals MVP instead.

Let's just try this one instead, if the Lakers were to trade Kobe with CP3... I'm very positive that the Hornets with agree in a heartbeat.  The Lakers on the other hand wouldn't even consider a trade of Kobe for CP3 and West.
This is not about who's the better player between the two, It is the overall performance of a player that is significant and deserves recognition in a yearly basis. Players no matter how good they are cant consistently win MVP every year that they play. Look at Steve Nash who would ever believe that he'll win the regular season MVP twice in a row. He was able to do that because of how he was able to make his team play better. Basketball is a team game its five versus five no great player can win it alone w/o the help of his teammates. David West is playing well becoz he plays w/in the system. His team mates specially Chris Paul open up situations for him to excell in his game this year. I doubt if he can play like that if traded to other teams. .
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 01, 2008 at 08:08 PM
His team mates specially Chris Paul open up situations for him to excell in his game this year. I doubt if he can play like that if traded to other teams. .

I don't really agree with this.. if you've seen the games of New Orleans, David West creates for himself most of the time.. he gets most of his points his own way.. he posts up mostly and at times, takes a jumper.. he doesn't need Chris Paul for him to get his points.. I would even say that he's better than Amare Stoudemire.. and this is one reason why New Orleans have been successful.. they have both an inside and outside game.. they can post up West or they drive and dish to their outside shooters.. it's not all Chris Paul.. it's Chandler and Stojakovic who benefit most from Paul's assists.. put West in any team and i'd bet he'd play just the same..
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: X-®an™ on May 01, 2008 at 08:14 PM
This is not about who's the better player between the two, It is the overall performance of a player that is significant and deserves recognition in a yearly basis. Players no matter how good they are cant consistently win MVP every year that they play. Look at Steve Nash who would ever believe that he'll win the regular season MVP twice in a row. He was able to do that because of how he was able to make his team play better. Basketball is a team game its five versus five no great player can win it alone w/o the help of his teammates. David West is playing well becoz he plays w/in the system. His team mates specially Chris Paul open up situations for him to excell in his game this year. I doubt if he can play like that if traded to other teams. .

Agree with the reasons posted by boredfilmmaker one post up. 

And... please review the years when David West was already with the Hornets and Chris Paul was not.  He was already a double-double machine back then... I know coz he basically won me my Fantasy league the first time he broke through.  He might even have more game winners than Chris Paul... so give the guy his due.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 01, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Every great player has to play within a system. i agree West is a double double machine but is that enough to lead a team to the playoffs w/ those criteria? Did West ever had a winning season before Chris Paul came? West"s performance this year is recognized becoz the Hornets have a winning season. New Orleans on paper isnt as invincible compared to other teams but the chemistry among its players excells over other teams. Why do you think Byron Scott win the coach of the year award this year? Why wasnt he recognized when he took New Jersey to consecutive nba finals appearances b4? Doc Rivers has done a complete turn around w/ Boston this year but why did they give it to Scott? Its the X factor that determines the results. This is not a discussion about who the better player is. Its who's the most deserving player to win the award this season.My choice of Chris Paul for MVP is based on his overall performance this season and becoz of that NEW ORLEAN's enjoying a winning season as a team. I would love to watch a LAKERS vs CELTICS finale but i think otherwise.
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Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 01, 2008 at 11:13 PM
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He's a good plAYER
    9 time all-nba team member.  and all I can get is good player? 

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gasol makes Bryant look better
   Gasol was 0-12 in play-offs.   With Kobe, He is now 4-0 so far.    Hmmm.  Maybe even Gasol will disagree.

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at new orleans its really Paul leading the show w/ tremendous performances and it really cause the turn around for his teams success this year
  Great job by CP3.   They improved by 17 wins versus last season.  But Kobe's leading his team too.   Lakers won 15 more games than their previous season.........   

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Kobe's a selfish player far from the class of JORDAN
   Really.   Kobe's career FGA average is 19.  Jordan's is at 23.   And Kobe's more selfish?


ah KOBE its either you like him or hate him he..he

Yeah Kim, thats why Im no longer surprised with the posts.  I know the type na.   End of discussion.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: bumblebee on May 02, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Kobe and CP3 deserve it. Since the Lakers won the conference, it's just right to give it to Kobe.

Hey, Nash deserves his MVPs.


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: kimpOy on May 02, 2008 at 11:35 AM
both players deserves it.. heck even KG and Lebron deserve it, sentimental votes will be a huge factor and most likely will swing in kobe's favor...

picture getting clearer...
 
East
Celtic/Hawks vs Cavs/Wiz
Magic vs Psiton

West
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Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: sardaukar on May 03, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Great Bos/Atl game. Wow, Atlanta able to force a 7. Kakahiya talaga Suns ko. And felt even worse after reading Simmon's article (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080501).
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 03, 2008 at 11:16 AM
the Celtics haven't won on the road yet this playoffs.. if they can't win against a sub-par team like Atlanta on the road, they're going to have their hands full in the next rounds, if they advance..
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Post by: skylynx888 on May 03, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Boston-Atlanta ------ hhhmmmmmm...... a Dallas - Golden State series in the making.....  ;D ;D  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sport032.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on May 03, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Hanep ang Hot-lanta!  ^ Yup - could they be this year's Warriors?!!  Odds are still against them winning Game 7, so that'll be the Celtics' game to lose.  Boston looks like it's becoming overconfident, as typified by that ill-advised trey attempt by Ray Allen in the closing seconds of Game 6 when they could've gone for the equalizer instead.  ???  
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Post by: Wiggum on May 03, 2008 at 11:38 AM
(AP) - A look at the matchups in the second round of the NBA playoffs, which begin Saturday (with regular-season record, first-round series mark in parentheses):

No. 2 DETROIT PISTONS (59-23, 4-2) vs. No. 3 ORLANDO MAGIC (52-30, 4-1)

Season Series: Tied, 2-2, with Orlando snapping Detroit's 10-game winning streak with a 104-99 victory at The Palace of Auburn Hills in the first game after the All-Star break. Richard Hamilton averaged 21.7 points and shot 58 percent from the field in three games for the Pistons, who scored 100.5 points per game against the Magic. Hedo Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis and Dwight Howard all averaged at least 17 points for the Magic.

Storyline: Swept by Detroit in the first round last year, here's a chance for the Magic to show how far they've come -- and end the Pistons' quest for a sixth straight conference finals appearance. The Magic got a huge first-round series from Howard, who averaged 22.6 points and 18.2 rebounds, with three 20-20 games. He'll need to be just as good on the boards, because the Pistons outrebounded the Magic by an average of eight per game during the regular season.

Key Matchup I: Tayshaun Prince vs. Turkoglu. Prince, the Pistons' top individual defender, will get a chance to slow the winner of the NBA's most improved player award. Turkoglu averaged 19.5 points against the Pistons but shot only 41 percent. Prince contained Philadelphia's Andre Iguodala in the first round and also had a terrific series offensively, scoring 16.3 points per game on 66 percent shooting.

Key Matchup II: Chauncey Billups vs. Jameer Nelson. Nelson had an excellent first-round series against Toronto's point guard tandem of T.J. Ford and Jose Calderon, averaging 17.2 points on 52 percent shooting. Though Billups wasn't particularly sharp in the first round, he's a big step up in competition, and his strength can give Nelson trouble.

X-Factor: Keith Bogans. Besides having to chase Hamilton around screens, Bogans will try to offer something on the offensive end. He made 15 of 20 shots against Detroit this season, but struggled badly with his shot in the first round.

Prediction: Pistons in 6.

No. 2 NEW ORLEANS HORNETS (56-26, 4-1) vs. No. 3 SAN ANTONIO SPURS (56-26, 4-1)

Season Series: Tied, 2-2, with both New Orleans wins coming in blowouts. The Hornets sent a loud statement they were a contender with a 102-78 victory in San Antonio on Jan. 26, and later beat the Spurs 100-75 at home. The Spurs limited the Hornets to 87 points per game in the other two games. Chris Paul averaged 14 assists in the Hornets’ two wins, 5.5 in the losses.

Storyline: Both teams had surprisingly easy first-round victories, but this should be a competitive series between the up-and-coming Hornets and the defending champion Spurs, who have never made it beyond the second round in any of their three previous title defenses. New Orleans won the tiebreaker to earn the Southwest Division title and home-court advantage for this series.

Key Matchup I: Paul vs. Tony Parker. Two of the NBA’s speediest point guards, who expertly work the pick-and-roll and can get to the basket against almost any defender. The Spurs frequently used Bruce Bowen to defend Steve Nash in the first round, but Paul probably has too much foot speed for the Spurs’ 36-year-old defensive ace. Parker, a better scorer, averaged 29.6 points in the first round. Paul went for 24.6 points and 12.0 assists.

Key Matchup II: Peja Stojakovic vs. Bowen. Stojakovic was a sizzling 17-of-28 (61 percent) from 3-point range in the first round while averaging 15.8 points. Bowen, a physical perimeter defender, will try to make sure Stojakovic doesn’t get too comfortable.

X-Factor: Jannero Pargo. Gave the Hornets 14.6 points per game in his reserve role against Dallas, either spelling Paul or playing together in the backcourt to help them quicken the pace. Combined with Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright, he gives New Orleans an edge in athleticism off the bench.

Prediction: Spurs in 7.


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: sardaukar on May 03, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Boston looks like it's becoming overconfident, as typified by that ill-advised trey attempt by Ray Allen in the closing seconds of Game 6 when they could've gone for the equalizer instead.  ??? 

That's usually the philosophy in those types of games. Go for the tie at home, the win (the 3)  on the road. Plus, they may not have liked their chances in OT with Pierce out.


Muntik pang patalo si Bibby. Bato ng bato.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 03, 2008 at 12:24 PM
KOBE IS THE MVP  ;D ;D ;D

As per ESPN there are some reports from media men that Kobe beat CP3 for this seasons MVP.

I agreee that either way it would have been a deserving winner.
CP3 led NO to a very impressive season and current playoff run.
Kobe led the Lakers to the #1 seed in the ultra competitive Western Conference.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: tonedeaf on May 03, 2008 at 06:34 PM
^just saw the same news being carried by latimes.

btw, is it just me, or are the major sports websites down? i've been trying to get some news on boston-atlanta, and kobe winning, and i can't get through espn, or cnnsi.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 03, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Great Bos/Atl game. Wow, Atlanta able to force a 7. Kakahiya talaga Suns ko. And felt even worse after reading Simmon's article (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080501).
Suns tough luck lng sa draw San Antonio agad 1st round at contrapelo tlga sila. Coach Greg Popovich seems to know how to beat the Suns.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: pekspert on May 03, 2008 at 07:35 PM
^just saw the same news being carried by latimes.

btw, is it just me, or are the major sports websites down? i've been trying to get some news on boston-atlanta, and kobe winning, and i can't get through espn, or cnnsi.

both espn and cnnsi are working fine for me, you can try foxsports too.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jht3 on May 04, 2008 at 12:21 AM
I used to hate Kobe for being a ball-hog but I think he has become more mature now and started to act as a real leader. My MVP vote goes to Kobe, but if CP3 wins the award, it would be okay since he also has those MVP characteristics.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 04, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Andrew Bnum is out for the season :( Kobe is sure gonna earn his MVP honors if they want to win it all.
But I think other teams had a big sigh of relief after learning Bynum will be out.
That's a very BIG problem to solve when you play the Lakers with Bynum in the line up.
Just imagine: Bynum, Gasol and Odom in the front line then Kobe in the wing and Fisher running the point.

Watch out for the Paul and PArker match up. It'll be fun :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on May 04, 2008 at 06:32 AM
(AP) - A look at the matchup between the Los Angeles Lakers and Utah Jazz in the second round of the NBA playoffs, which begins Sunday (with regular-season record, first-round series mark in parentheses):

No. 1 LOS ANGELES LAKERS (57-25, 4-0) vs. No. 4 UTAH JAZZ (54-28, 4-2).

Season Series: Lakers, 3-1, with three of the meetings coming back in late 2007. The Lakers won the most recent game, handing the Jazz one of their four home losses with a 106-95 victory on March 20. All the games were decided by double digits, and the Lakers shot a combined 54 percent from the field in their wins.

Storyline: The Lakers had an easy time with Denver in the first round, giving them plenty of rest before facing the physical Jazz. Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer will score against the Lakers, but the Jazz must defend much better than they did while yielding 111 points per game in the regular-season series — and they never even faced Los Angeles with Pau Gasol in the lineup.

Key Matchup I: Kobe Bryant vs. Ronnie Brewer. The athletic Brewer likely gets the first crack at defending Bryant, who torched the Jazz for 29.8 points on 56 percent shooting and made 10 of 18 3-pointers. Brewer did have some of his best offensive numbers against the Lakers, scoring 14.8 points per game. Andrei Kirilenko and perhaps even Williams could get turns at Bryant.

Key Matchup II: Gasol vs. Boozer. Boozer averaged 16 points and 11.7 rebounds in the first round against Houston, but shot an uncharacteristically low 43 percent. Gasol had things much easier in his first postseason with the Lakers, shooting 58 percent while recording 22.3 points and 9.0 rebounds per game. Gasol was out with a sprained ankle when the teams met in March, so the Jazz haven't experienced his impact on the triangle offense yet.

X-Factor: Paul Millsap. Utah's energetic second-year reserve had one of his best games of the season when he started in Boozer's place on Nov. 30, scoring 20 points on 10-of-14 shooting and grabbing nine rebounds in the lone Jazz victory. He totaled only 22 points in the other three games, and the Jazz need more of a spark than that.

Prediction: Lakers in 6.


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Congrats to Kobe on your first MVP!  Definitely well-deserved!  Makes it sweeter, given the level of competition this year ;D ;D ;D

Too bad Bynum is out for the season.  :(  At least that's certain now, and the Lakers can stop playing the waiting game and focus on the task at hand. 

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on May 05, 2008 at 11:31 AM
(AP) - No. 1 BOSTON CELTICS (66-16, 4-3) vs. No. 4 CLEVELAND CAVALIERS (45-37, 4-2).


Season Series: Tied, 2-2, with Boston winning a game that LeBron James missed and Cleveland taking the one that Kevin Garnett sat out. The Celtics also won the lone meeting that came after the Cavaliers’ big trade at the deadline. James averaged 32.3 points, 9.7 assists and 7.0 rebounds, with huge games in both Cleveland victories, but sat out a Dec. 2 loss with a sprained finger. Ray Allen scored 23.8 per game for Boston, but neither Garnett nor Paul Pierce had extraordinary numbers.

Storyline: The Celtics had a surprisingly difficult time in the first round, needing seven games to eliminate Atlanta. Things won’t get any easier now, because James and the rest of the defending Eastern Conference champions will be fresher, with Boston getting just one day off before the series starts.

Key Matchup I: Pierce vs. James. James shot only 41 percent against Boston during the regular season, going 7-for-24 in the Celtics’ 92-87 victory on Feb. 27. But he took 40 free throws in three games, and the Celtics will have to double-team him frequently. The Celtics need Pierce to make James work on the other end, but their All-Star forward managed only 13.5 points on 25 percent shooting against the Cavs.

Key Matchup II: Garnett vs. Ben Wallace. The Cavs’ deadline deal gave them one of the NBA’s top defenders to match up with Garnett, the league’s Defensive Player of the Year. Wallace won the award four times this decade and is still a good rebounder and shot blocker, but provides little on the other end. His horrendous free throw shooting (25 percent in the first round) could be a liability in close games. He’ll try to keep Garnett, who averaged 21 points in the first round, closer to the 15.3 he put up against the Cavs.

X-Factor: Delonte West and Wally Szczerbiak. James will find open shots for his teammates, and he needs these two former Celtics to make them from the outside. The Cavs were 4-0 in the first round when one of them scored at least 15 points.

Prediction: Celtics in 7.


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR
Post by: X-®an™ on May 05, 2008 at 10:04 PM
My picks:
(1) LA Lakers beats Utah Jazz
(2) New Orleans Hornets loses to San Antonio Spurs

(1) Boston Celtics beats Cleveland Cavaliers
(2) Detroit Pistons loses to Orlando Magic
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: blackie on May 05, 2008 at 10:28 PM
DEEEETROIT ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 06, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Looks like D'Antoni and the Suns will part ways. There are some rumors that th Bulls and NY are very interested in the soon to be ex-Suns coach. Ben Gordon and Luol Deng is eager to have the offensive minded coach in Chicago. However, another possibility that Stephen A. Smith is pointing out is D'Antoni moving to Canada and Sam Mitchell moving to Toronto. If you guys remember it was Bryan Colangelo (Toronto GM) was the one who hired D'Antoni and not Kerr. Plus with a bunch of international players in Toronto D'Antoni is sure to be excited about it. It's like coaching back in Europe. Apparently Suns GM (Kerr) and D'Antoni have differences in their philosophy that seems to suggest that D'Antoni moving out of Phoenix is all but final. Last week Kerr said that he won't permit any team to conduct an interview with his coach but that changed this morning.

So long to the Run-and-Gun Suns. I wonder what are they going to do with Shaq and Grant Hill.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: a2 on May 06, 2008 at 07:09 PM
lakers all the way!! purple and gold reign!! ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: kristerocky on May 07, 2008 at 08:58 AM
With the way the Hornets has beaten the Spurs in two games, I think they'll go deep in this playoffs. But then, they're still facing the defending champs.

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2008/series/series_w2s2.html (http://www.nba.com/playoffs2008/series/series_w2s2.html)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 07, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Celtics win game 1 versus Cavs in an ugly game.

Kudos to Kobe for winning MVP.    Dream season for him and the Lakers if they will go all the way.  So far, sila ang pinaka consistent.   Just shows how Phil Jackson has them playing the way he wants them too.   
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: kimpOy on May 07, 2008 at 01:54 PM
Game 2 bukas
1030am Channel 9 or C/S sports

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: a2 on May 07, 2008 at 05:00 PM
playoffs telecast update (btv, c/s-rpn)

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2857/schedil4.jpg)

may 12 (btv)

jazz-lakers @ 330am
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on May 07, 2008 at 07:03 PM
Game 3 of SAS-NOH will also be shown on Star Sports this Friday, 9:30 a.m.  Obviously a must-win for the defending champs.  How to stop Chris Paul...  ???
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 08, 2008 at 01:59 PM
Yahoo!!  Lakers 2-0 na.....  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: dobler on May 08, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Yahoo!!  Lakers 2-0 na.....  ;D ;D ;D

Nakita mo yung box score? Grabe, talk about balanced scoring with Kobe leading the way with 34 points.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: bumblebee on May 08, 2008 at 02:17 PM
Kobe reminds me of the after-retirement Jordan, the Lakers of the 2nd 3peat Bulls. Keep it up Lakers.
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Post by: kristerocky on May 08, 2008 at 02:19 PM
Lakers are definitely playing on high octane fuel, 6-0 in the playoffs.  ;D
I'd certainly want Lakers-Hornets in the conference finals.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 08, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Kobe reminds me of the after-retirement Jordan, the Lakers of the 2nd 3peat Bulls. Keep it up Lakers.

I agree.  Kobe is very efficient now.  He is playing within the system of the tri-offense.  He still scores a lot, but gets to involve his teammates too.   The other Lakers are not mere spectators now.   

The only Laker who gets the ire of PhilJax now is the "Space Cadet" Radmanovich.   Hehehe...   
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: bumblebee on May 08, 2008 at 02:32 PM
That makes him explosive. I wonder how Steve Kerr compare him now to MJ.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: blackie on May 08, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Argh! talo bad boys :-\
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Post by: Wiggum on May 08, 2008 at 08:30 PM
MVP!!! MVP!!! MVP!!!

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KobeMVP01.jpg) (http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KobeMVP06.jpg)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KobeMVP05.jpg)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KobeMVP03.jpg) (http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KobeMVP08.jpg)
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Post by: Battousai on May 09, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Kobe told the Staples crowd that they'll still be playing in JUNE. Man, I really hope Kobe can back it up and lead the LAkers to the Finals (and the championship!)

Go El-Ay!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Marl☆1 on May 09, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Time Ta Fly!  8)

(http://api.ning.com/files/7FsqP4Rxc86ew4tcxoa82a3-KNMw8bd*6EKDxUt7FCc_/Kobe_Bryant_Supernatural_Wallpaper.jpg)
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Post by: RNIverson on May 09, 2008 at 03:41 PM
(http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3930.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3118.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3704.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3007.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3818.jpg)
 
Bryant, Garnett, Paul, Howard, James voted to first team (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3387097)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: viperkid on May 09, 2008 at 04:39 PM
(http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3930.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3118.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3704.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3007.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3818.jpg)
 
Bryant, Garnett, Paul, Howard, James voted to first team (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3387097)
No surprises here...
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Post by: a2 on May 09, 2008 at 04:45 PM
nike congratulatory ad

(http://www.kb24.com/content/images/mvp_nike_latimes.jpg)

go for 3-0!!
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Post by: sanmig_ph on May 09, 2008 at 09:21 PM
mga paps pa post sched laro bukas :)
espn meron bukas?
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 09, 2008 at 09:27 PM
mga paps pa post sched laro bukas :)
espn meron bukas?

one game lang sked bukas.. LA vs. Utah at 9am, both at C/S and ESPN..
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 09, 2008 at 10:29 PM
(http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3930.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3118.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3704.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3007.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3818.jpg)
 
Bryant, Garnett, Paul, Howard, James voted to first team (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3387097)

I'll take Amare Stoudemire over Dwight Howard
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 10, 2008 at 06:59 AM
No surprises here...
well deserve mythical five for this nba season
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Post by: dyerds on May 10, 2008 at 07:31 AM
I'll take Amare Stoudemire over Dwight Howard


I think any of the two deserves to be in the first team.
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Post by: sanmig_ph on May 10, 2008 at 09:12 AM
one game lang sked bukas.. LA vs. Utah at 9am, both at C/S and ESPN..

thanks bro, home court pala ng jazz ngayon.
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Post by: kimpOy on May 10, 2008 at 01:40 PM
I'll take Amare Stoudemire over Dwight Howard


I'll Take a Defensive Minded Center Anyday
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 10, 2008 at 06:05 PM
I'll Take a Defensive Minded Center Anyday
Wait for Greg Oden next season he'll surely be a force to reckon with.
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Post by: a2 on May 10, 2008 at 06:22 PM
tsk, talo lakers. pau gasol and the bench mob were non exsistent in the game. bawi na lang sa monday.
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Post by: Munskie on May 12, 2008 at 08:10 AM
Talo ulit Lakers....ang masakit eh, natalo na sila...puyat kapa.... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: dyerds on May 12, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Talo ulit Lakers....ang masakit eh, natalo na sila...puyat kapa.... ;D ;D ;D

Heheheh... 3:30 ata nagsimula yung game. Ako patulug-tulog. Spurs is crushing Hornets right now.  :D ;D :)
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Post by: kristerocky on May 12, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Spurs tied the series 2-2. That's what I call a lock down.

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Post by: Battousai on May 12, 2008 at 02:36 PM
As much as I like Kobe's game, I just can't believe he kept forcing it inside and out, knowing full well that he's not as mobile coz of his bad back. All those off-form threes and forced drives that looked like it wouldn't go in (and majority of it didn't or was blocked) made me wince and want to turn off the t.v. Fisher was on fire and Pau was shooting well (damnit he missed a dunk after spinning off Okur, I think). Oh well, here's hoping that LA takes care of business at home in game 5.
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Post by: bumblebee on May 12, 2008 at 03:25 PM
I really hate it when Kobe (or any other player) takes 30+ shots.
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Post by: Battousai on May 13, 2008 at 05:18 PM
I really hate it when Kobe (or any other player) takes 30+ shots.

As long as majority of those 30 shots are falling, I odn't mind. Those forced shots, though, they're quite an eyesore.

Boston has yet to win a road game in the playofs. I guess they're thanking their lucky charms that they've got homecourt advantage during the playoffs.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 13, 2008 at 05:48 PM
D' Antoni to coach NY KNICKS dats great i cant wait how he turns the KNICKS into a run and gun team. He surely will bring glamore to the Big Apple.
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Post by: dyerds on May 13, 2008 at 10:03 PM
As long as majority of those 30 shots are falling, I odn't mind. Those forced shots, though, they're quite an eyesore.

Boston has yet to win a road game in the playofs. I guess they're thanking their lucky charms that they've got homecourt advantage during the playoffs.

I really think so. Maybe they're thinking that all they need to do is win all their home games and they'll win the crown since they have the best record this season.  lol
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Post by: blackie on May 14, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Detroit takes first Eastern COnference Finals Seat.... ;D  The long wait for the 2-2's to finish up begins ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: bumblebee on May 14, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Two-man game for NO. Can they keep it up?
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Post by: dyerds on May 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Right now they're devouring the Spurs. I hope that Spurs can come back this last minute of the 3rd and 4th quarter.
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Post by: bumblebee on May 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM
That's one ugly 3Q for the Spurs.
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Post by: tonedeaf on May 14, 2008 at 09:15 PM
hope LA wins tomorrow... :)
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 14, 2008 at 09:31 PM
hope LA wins tomorrow... :)
if LA loses tomorrow, its doom for them
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Post by: jht3 on May 14, 2008 at 09:55 PM
C'mon Lakers!  ;D
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Post by: sanmig_ph on May 15, 2008 at 08:36 AM
live kaya sa espn ngayon? go lakers :D
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Post by: a2 on May 15, 2008 at 08:44 AM
^ sa c/s-rpn sya ipapalabas. live naman ngayon sa btv yung cle-bos.

let's go lakers!!
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Post by: Munskie on May 15, 2008 at 01:39 PM
As much as I like Kobe's game, I just can't believe he kept forcing it inside and out, knowing full well that he's not as mobile coz of his bad back. All those off-form threes and forced drives that looked like it wouldn't go in (and majority of it didn't or was blocked) made me wince and want to turn off the t.v. Fisher was on fire and Pau was shooting well (d**nit he missed a dunk after spinning off Okur, I think). Oh well, here's hoping that LA takes care of business at home in game 5.
I really hate it when Kobe (or any other player) takes 30+ shots.

Oyan, narinig kayo....26pts on 10 shots.   ;D ;D  Im just glad LA won.   Now, Utah is one game away from "doom".
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Post by: bumblebee on May 15, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Di ba mas ok? ;D
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Post by: Munskie on May 15, 2008 at 01:59 PM
Di ba mas ok? ;D
Definitely.  Much more efficient, and within the system.   I really dont care whether he took 10 or 30 shots, as long as its within the system.   And I have to admit, his game 4 blunder was reminscent of his old self.

On a side note, props again to Lamar Odom, who has been holding the fort for the Lakers inside the paint.   I just cringe everytime Gasol gets outrebounded or banged around.   Pau is really suited to a finesse game, and will never be a bruiser inside the paint.  Buti na lang he made the important points in the end game.      ;)
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Post by: Battousai on May 15, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Bah! I hate it when the game smells very much like home cookin'. Di ako makuntento sa panalo ng Lakers. I may need glasses now, but I clearly saw Pau shove Okur away for that ofensive rebound (which led to an uncontested dunk). I hope the LAkers finsih things off in Utah in game 6.
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Post by: a2 on May 15, 2008 at 07:17 PM
^ that was a flop. okur was manuesque on that play. ;D
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Post by: Munskie on May 16, 2008 at 08:27 AM
^ that was a flop. okur was manuesque on that play. ;D
That play was a huge topic of discussion, especially in truehoop.   Upon closer review, it was a flop indeed.   Gasol has his forearm planted on Okur back, but didnt shove.   Memo flopped.  The shove though came earlier in the play, normal in jockeying for position.   

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Truehoop's Henry Abbott writes...

But nothing was quite like that moment when Pau Gasol hammered Mehmet Okur.

That's the play when we all learned the Jazz were unlikely to win this series. They had been hanging around with a puncher's chance. They got the key miss. But when it came time for the all-important rebound, their guy started the play with Pau Gasol all over his back, and ended it with Okur stumbling forward out of the play entirely as Gasol dunked the de facto game-winner.

It's in these highlights, near the very end. (UPDATE: And here.)

In fact, that Tivo trick I just told you about? I acted that out pretty well. "Are you kidding me?" I barked at the screen.

Rewind. Slow motion. I watched several times. Hard to tell. By any measure, Gasol was more intimate with Okur than the rules would strictly allow, but welcome to the playoffs, you know? What I wanted to see was the moment when Gasol shoved Okur out of the way. With all the contact, that moment was tough to isolate.

I assumed I had been correct, however.

A few minutes later, though, TNT showed another view, as Doug Collins announced that Okur tried to pretend he had been shoved, but in fact wasn't.

This made me even angrier. There had been a terrible no-call, and now the announcer was going to add insult to injury by accusing Okur, essentially, of being a dramatic baby?

Let us not forget, all this is going on with a shot at the Western Conference Finals likely on the line. It was 105-102. Deron Williams had been hitting threes. There were twenty seconds left.

Let us also not forget that the Utah Jazz are generally considered to be one of the roughest and toughest teams in the NBA.

I hit the rewind button on that second angle, followed by the slow-motion button. I watched it again and again.

And I was shocked.

Look, maybe there's something I missed. But that angle sure seemed telling. And the more times I watched it, the more clear it was: Okur did flop.

He had been shoved in the back moments before with a Gasol forearm that was still planted in his back. It was the kind of thing that is never called. Just battling for position. But Okur had been pushed a little deeper into the lane than he probably wanted to go. Sasha Vujacic's 3 from the corner bounced off the back of the rim, and took a perfect carom almost directly to the spot Gasol had freshly stolen from Okur.

Even though the Jazz had boxed out all the way around the rim, this ball was even money or better to make its way over Okur's head and into the waiting hands of Gasol.

My best interpretation of the video is that Okur tried to get his team possession another way -- by dramatizing a foul that had actually occurred seconds earlier.

He did a pretty good job of it too. But in the end, it was a rebound, dunk, game, and likely series to the Lakers.

And so I stopped being mad at the no call. And I started getting mad at the flopping.
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Post by: Wiggum on May 16, 2008 at 11:42 AM
^ Thanks Munskie - no doubt it was a flop.  Nice try by Okur, but he should improve his rebounding/defensive skills rather than his acting.  Good thing the refs didn't fall for that one.  Speaking of Okur, I'm always reminded of that NYK-UTA game last season where Marbury went coast-to-coast for a last-second lay-up to win the game.  It was Okur who had the last and best chance of defending Marbury on that play.  And what did he do as Marbury drove to the basket?  Turn his back on Marbury.  Niiiice....  ??? 

Spurs are clobbering the Hornets.  Game 7 should be a toss-up, even if it's going to be at the Hornets' arena.  I'm betting on the Spurs.  :)

Hope LA wins tomorrow.  Utah's too dangerous to face in a Game 7.

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Post by: kristerocky on May 16, 2008 at 11:47 AM
The Spurs tied the series 3-3. Now the Hornets' back is against the wall. It'll be one heck of a game 7.  ;D
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 16, 2008 at 11:52 AM
The Spurs tied the series 3-3. Now the Hornets' back is against the wall. It'll be one heck of a game 7.  ;D

Actually it's still San Antonio's back that is against the wall as all games each team has won has been in their homecourt.  Game 7 is in NO.
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Post by: bumblebee on May 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM
If there's any team that can bounce from 3-2, in the NBA, this season, it's SA.
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Post by: dyerds on May 16, 2008 at 12:06 PM
This is the trend right... win in your own turf.  ;D I think only Detroit won on the road in the 2nd round but I hope Spurs would be the 2nd team to do that. Let's go Spurs!  ;D
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Post by: runner10 on May 16, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Are the game 6s tomorrow (Saturday) going to be televised on ESPN or any other channel other than BTV?

Boston @ Cleveland
LA @ Utah

Sky subscriber here - no BTV for me.
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Post by: kimpOy on May 16, 2008 at 01:42 PM
ESPN and C/S sports (channel 9) 10:30am Utah Jazz vs LA Lakers
the other game will aired live at BTV @ 8:00am (sorry dude)

hey munskie wala ka bang gif after gasol made that dunk.. maiyak iyak sya he..he

 
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Post by: Munskie on May 16, 2008 at 08:35 PM

hey munskie wala ka bang gif after gasol made that dunk.. maiyak iyak sya he..he
 
hehehe...Boozer was in disbelief...

In the other series, Robert Horry has legitimately morphed himself from Big Shot Rob to Cheap Shot Rob.   Last year he hip-checked the Suns out of the play-offs.   This time, a hard screen right into David West's bad lower back may also save their season.    :-[

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Post by: dobler on May 16, 2008 at 09:52 PM
hehehe...Boozer was in disbelief...
In the other series, Robert Horry has legitimately morphed himself from Big Shot Rob to Cheap Shot Rob.   Last year he hip-checked the Suns out of the play-offs.   This time, a hard screen right into David West's bad lower back may also save their season.    :-[

Geez, what's up with this guy? For fun, I just did a google news search on him. Came up with 2 interesting hits:

http://deadspin.com/5009314/cheap-shot-rob-strikes-again
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/05/16/is-big-shot-bob-quietly-becoming-a-thug/

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Post by: Battousai on May 17, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Nakows! Horry's teammate, Bruce Lee Bowen, is the dirtiest NBA player around, so, baka nahawa lang si Horry sa kanya. I think may "Bowen's Greatest Hits" sa youtube. Grabe sa flying kick yang si Bowen and I'm shocked that the NBA hasn't done a thing to ban the guy.
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Post by: dobler on May 17, 2008 at 01:09 AM
Nakows! Horry's teammate, Bruce Lee Bowen, is the dirtiest NBA player around, so, baka nahawa lang si Horry sa kanya. I think may "Bowen's Greatest Hits" sa youtube. Grabe sa flying kick yang si Bowen and I'm shocked that the NBA hasn't done a thing to ban the guy.

Agreed on Bowen. Hindi naman siguro nahawa si Horry sa kanya. Robert's 37  and just made his 238th playoff appearance this week, eclipsing Abdul Jabbar's record. As one article pointed out, he's just an old guy trying to hold on.  :) Then again, maybe that's the role Coach Pop has given him the past few seasons, going after a key player of your opponent (Nash and West) . Hehe.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 17, 2008 at 05:50 AM
This is playoffs time. Even the great Michael Jordan suffered the same faith as Nash and West. Anyone remembered how he got hit and clobbered by the Bad Boys of Detroit somes year ago during the playoffs? How he was able to live up to the challenge and surpass the agony of pain? I think West should live up to the challenge as Jordan did if they wanna go to the NBA Finals. Its gonna be very physical come game 7 of the NO vs SA
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Post by: dyerds on May 17, 2008 at 06:20 AM
This is playoffs time. Even the great Michael Jordan suffered the same faith as Nash and West. Anyone remembered how he got hit and clobbered by the Bad Boys of Detroit somes year ago during the playoffs? How he was able to live up to the challenge and surpass the agony of pain? I think West should live up to the challenge as Jordan did if they wanna go to the NBA Finals. Its gonna be very physical come game 7 of the NO vs SA

I agree.
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Post by: Munskie on May 17, 2008 at 06:34 AM
Easier said than done.  Getting physical play and being clubbered (and taking it) during the play-offs and being injured is a far different matter. 

A really bad lower back is major pain.   Its like a dagger thrust into your lower back all the time.   You cant jump.   You cant move that much laterally.   The back is part of the core, which  is the foundation of the body.  You cant do much being in the court if that back is stiff.   I know it coz I have experienced it as Im a former athlete myself. 

But I do agree that in some manner, West can will his young body through the pain and sucked it up.   But again, sometimes, what the mind can lead, the body wont follow, especially if its injured.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 17, 2008 at 06:38 AM
The Spurs aren't defending champions for nothing. They earned their glory and they wont give up their crown that easily. Chris Paul and David West must be ready to endure wat is expected to come in game 7 and it is certain.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 17, 2008 at 06:57 AM
hehehe...Boozer was in disbelief...

In the other series, Robert Horry has legitimately morphed himself from Big Shot Rob to Cheap Shot Rob.   Last year he hip-checked the Suns out of the play-offs.   This time, a hard screen right into David West's bad lower back may also save their season.    :-[

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base on this gif image i can only say its part of the game that the incident happened. West was backing down and Horry was about to set a screen and it happened on the defensive end .  He wasnt hit ur hacked airborne .
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Post by: Munskie on May 17, 2008 at 07:04 AM
base on this gif image i can only say its part of the game that the incident happened. West was backing down and Horry was about to set a screen and it happened on the defensive end .  He wasnt hit ur hacked airborne .
It was called an offensive foul.  Its an illegal screen.     Horry doesnt have to hack West, cant you see, all he has to do is plant those crossed forearms right on the lower back of West.   Thats like putting another set of daggers right through that already hurting back.

Anybody who has played the game, and you know West has a bad back (which the Spurs knew), its a cheap shot.  No doubt about it. 

Its  a hard screen, and it was perfect timing for Horry.   Its like a quarterback being sacked on his blind side.   A perfect time to immobilized an opponent.

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Post by: Munskie on May 17, 2008 at 07:08 AM
From Truehoop,

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A photo of Robert Horry at the moment David West's back really started to hurt. Deep thoughts about cheap shots. Basketbawful on the same play: "Horry measured West and gave him a shot right in the lower back. Horry knew West's back was injured. Everybody knew West's back was injured. It was a textbook example of a cheap shot. Look, I've played a lot of basketball over the years, both organized and not-so-organized. Stuff like that doesn't happen by accident. It just doesn't. And if you think otherwise, then you're fooling yourself. Horry measured West and gave him a really hard -- and clearly illegal, since it resulted in an offensive foul -- shot into a part of West's body that was known to be injured. Did Horry intend to take West out of the game, or even incapacitate him for Game 7? Probably not. But that barely makes the act any less senseless. And whether he meant for it to happen or not, there's a pretty good likelihood that West will be far from 100 percent for Game 7. Which is a pretty good tradeoff for a simple offensive foul, isn't it?

And for those of you who are inevitably going to defend Mr. Cheap Shot, go ahead and answer this question in your defense: How would you react if you were playing pickup basketball and somebody purposely took a shot at your injured back/knee/ankle/whatever? Would you laugh it off as just a good, hard basketball play? Or would you want to strangle the guy?"
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 17, 2008 at 07:25 AM
There's no sense defending Horry if he's got the role as an enforcer for his team. As far as i'm concern wat happened is just part of the game and warriors on the court should live w/ dat. If thats how the Spurs gona play, then the Hornets should be prepared to beat the Spurs at their own game. Dallas was able to do that two years ago when Nowitski ( unknown for driving hard to the basket) drove hard contested to the basket forcing overtime w/c Dallas eventually won.
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Post by: dyerds on May 17, 2008 at 09:35 AM
Cheap shot or not again it's the play-offs as long as there is no intention of hurting the player that is a good thing in basketball (as far as the refs are concern since they only call it an offensive foul rather than a flagrant). Star players should always be ready with those cheap shots coz they will be the target of somebody like Horry  eventhough I don't think that he wants to be tag as "Cheap Shot Bob" in his mind this is just how we play basketball here in San Antonio and that is why we are the champs. Look at what the Wizards did to Lebron, they clobbered him every game but you haven't heard anything from him because he knew that Wizards will be aggressive on defense against him. Wizards was so vocal about how they are going to play Lebron and that is to get physical with him. The only thing is it didn't work coz they lost the series. If they win that series I think that Wizards will be tagged as "Cheap Shot Wizards".  ;)
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 17, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Anybody else thinks that Paul Pierce sold out in Game 6?
Check how many passes he gave away throughout the game.
Also, can someone tell KG to post up and take the ball to the rack!
No chance of winning it all if they play that way.

Home team wins....home team wins...home team wins...
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Post by: kristerocky on May 17, 2008 at 01:43 PM
The Lakers are advancing to the Western conference finals. Utah made a last minute heave but they came up short :(  Well-deserved win for the Lakers.  :D
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Post by: Munskie on May 17, 2008 at 01:46 PM
Yahoo!!!   My heart stopped a beat two times during the last seconds.    Two game tying attempts there by Utah.   That was really close.

P.S.  I wish some Utah fans would show some class to their visitors...they pelted the Laker bench with cups and whathaveyou.   
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Post by: Battousai on May 17, 2008 at 02:20 PM
I think those classless Jazz fans were even chanting "Cancer" just to spite Derek Fischer. Hey, didn't Jerry Sloan's wife die of cancer? What the hell are the fans smoking up in Utah?  >:(
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Post by: Battousai on May 17, 2008 at 02:44 PM
Re: Horry's foul

Well, I do agree with some that it was a cheap shot. It would've been nothing but a bump if West wasn't injured, right? Everything would've been brushed aside as being part of the game. Sure, it's the playoffs and everyone's got to put an extra effort into doing everything to help your team win; but it's still no excuse to intentionally hit the opposing team' injured player. Of course, the argument here is that if West was really injured, then why the heck would he risk playing and hurting his back more. It's because he wants to help his team win, which is ironic coz that's exactly what Horry wants to do.

Sure the foul may look blatantly intentional, but if you're going up against a player the size of David West, where would you place your forearm or hands on his body to stop him from moving (within the allowed rules of the NBA)? It's gotta be the back, right? Especially if the guy's about to back you down or move towards you back-first. Would it have been any more cheap if it was someone like Duncan who knocked West down? Look at the animated gif and you'll see that Horry was just going through the motions of setting a pick. It was West who came jumping to Horry with his back to the basket. If you look at it on a different perspective, you'll think that Horry was just trying to wind-up to set a screen (illegal or not).
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Post by: a2 on May 17, 2008 at 02:46 PM
purple and gold reign!!
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Post by: Munskie on May 17, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Re: Horry's foul

Well, I do agree with some that it was a cheap shot. It would've been nothing but a bump if West wasn't injured, right? Everything would've been brushed aside as being part of the game. Sure, it's the playoffs and everyone's got to put an extra effort into doing everything to help your team win; but it's still no excuse to intentionally hit the opposing team' injured player. Of course, the argument here is that if West was really injured, then why the heck would he risk playing and hurting his back more. It's because he wants to help his team win, which is ironic coz that's exactly what Horry wants to do.

Sure the foul may look blatantly intentional, but if you're going up against a player the size of David West, where would you place your forearm or hands on his body to stop him from moving (within the allowed rules of the NBA)? It's gotta be the back, right? Especially if the guy's about to back you down or move towards you back-first. Would it have been any more cheap if it was someone like Duncan who knocked West down? Look at the animated gif and you'll see that Horry was just going through the motions of setting a pick. It was West who came jumping to Horry with his back to the basket. If you look at it on a different perspective, you'll think that Horry was just trying to wind-up to set a screen (illegal or not).

i do agree now.   and Byron Scott has also himself to blame, he didnt put out West in the bench soon enough.....it was a blowout.
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Post by: dyerds on May 17, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Well, West has the luxury of 2-3 days of rest before the next game. I think that would be enough for him to recover from Horry's blow.  ;D

Would it be great if Celtics and Lakers will go out of it in the Finals just like the 80's? Hmmmm...I hope not I'm a Spurs fan.  ;D ...but on the second thought that would be really cool.
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Post by: Ctlim on May 17, 2008 at 04:07 PM
I hope LBJ plants the dagger on the Celtics with a 50pt. performance in Boston for Game 7. Whether its the Celtics or the Cavaliers, they'll have trouble getting past the Pistons in the conference Finals.

Out in the West, both New Orleans and SA have what it takes to knock out LA.

Fearless forecast: DETRIOT vs. NO, SA or LAL.
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Post by: dyerds on May 17, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Pick only one in the West.  ;D  :P
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 17, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Basketball is a contact sport. Players went on rigid physical conditioning and weights training so their bodies can take these contacts. 
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Post by: Munskie on May 18, 2008 at 07:48 AM
(http://i32.tinypic.com/25kihd0.jpg)

And 1. "Then taunts the rowdy Jazz fans..."CANT STOP ME.....CANT STOP ME!!!"

Yabang no...... ;D ;D ;D  If I aint a Laker fan....I would've hate him too!  ;D ;D
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 18, 2008 at 07:53 AM
very nice gif images galing ni Bryant resembles Jordan's famous fadeaway in your face jumpers.
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Post by: Munskie on May 19, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Eastern Finals is set.

Boston Celtics vs Detroit Pistons

Ill be rooting for the Celts to win.    Para kung sakali makalusot ang LA sa West, it will be a match-up to watch.   The dream goes on.   And if it came true....more viewing parties!!!!  ;D ;D
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Post by: a2 on May 19, 2008 at 09:05 AM
detroit in 6!! ;D
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Post by: bumblebee on May 19, 2008 at 09:48 AM
(http://i32.tinypic.com/25kihd0.jpg)

And 1. "Then taunts the rowdy Jazz fans..."CANT STOP ME.....CANT STOP ME!!!"

Yabang no...... ;D ;D ;D  If I aint a Laker fan....I would've hate him too!  ;D ;D

Hey, I would too. A fade-away jumper is one thing. But to pump it?
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 19, 2008 at 09:56 AM

ABC is going to cover the NBA finals again, which they have done for the past several years.
They show the NBA finals on Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. thats what i noticed.

Now, what is the problem with that? The Philippines and other Asian countries are not able to watch it live (at least not during weekends when you are at home). Unlike when NBC covered it they have a Friday game which allowed us to watch it on Saturday morning in our homes.

Can we write ABC to at least have a Friday game instead of Thursday, though i know this may be near impossible (suntok sa buwan ika nga). Pero, can we try. Para naman we can watch it live AT HOME not at work. :( :(. 
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 19, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Ill be rooting for the Celts to win.    Para kung sakali makalusot ang LA sa West, it will be a match-up to watch.   The dream goes on.   And if it came true....more viewing parties!!!!  ;D ;D

Yeah, im also looking forward to a CELTICS - LAKERS dream finals!

i think Lakers will it against the Celtics if that happens.
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Post by: Munskie on May 19, 2008 at 10:14 AM
ABC is going to cover the NBA finals again, which they have done for the past several years.
They show the NBA finals on Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. thats what i noticed.

Now, what is the problem with that? The Philippines and other Asian countries are not able to watch it live (at least not during weekends when you are at home). Unlike when NBC covered it they have a Friday game which allowed us to watch it on Saturday morning in our homes.

Can we write ABC to at least have a Friday game instead of Thursday, though i know this may be near impossible (suntok sa buwan ika nga). Pero, can we try. Para naman we can watch it live AT HOME not at work. :( :(. 
Puck!!!  Huwag naman sana. 

 Meron na tie-up ang ABC with ESPN on their coverage.   ESPNSTAR has already expanded its airtime during the play-offs.  Meron na sya mid week coverage, during wednesdays here (tuesdays in US).   This is aside from the usual, Friday (star) and Saturday (espn) airtime alloted for NBA.   C/S also sometimes do simulcast with the espn.

Last year ba, paano yung airtime?  I didnt care to watch kasi last year's Finals.
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Post by: dyerds on May 19, 2008 at 10:41 AM
I think cs/rpn 9 will air it live naman everytime na may game, yun lang tagalog commentator baka hindi nyo feel kasi ako badtrip din kapag tagalog,  problem is when it's played in LA sometimes madaling araw sa'tin. Usually Sunday afternoon sa kanila Monday ng madaling araw sa'tin. Luckily for me I'm hooked-up with Cablelink here in Pque and they show it live everyday in NBA League Pass.

About the Cav-Celt game a while ago, I really hate it when Cavs just watch Lebron do his move at nagiging predictable yung game nila. That is why they can't win the crown with a team like that. It reminds me of LA last year when Kobe averages 30 shots per game (I guess) because nobody wants to shoot the ball except him and I guess he doesn't also trust his teammates as well.  ;D

Boston-SA or Boston-LA. I hope Spurs win the game tomorrow. Go Spurs!  ;D
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 19, 2008 at 11:40 AM

in the previous NBA finals. the game is always PRIMETIME... its either at 730am if Monday... and 9AM when weekdays. thats what i recall.

so there's no games to watch LIVE when we are at home on Saturday and Sunday.

Last year and the years when ABC handled the Finals, ganun ang Sked: Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday (US Time).

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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 19, 2008 at 11:49 AM
As I remember it last year, the finals was televised live from a local channel as well as BTV.  So this year most probably ganun pa rin.  This time C/S will air it live.  The "problem" is that the finals aired on the local channel had filipino broadcasters.  BTV aired the US broadcast.  I assume the same set up will still be applied.
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Post by: Munskie on May 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM
As I remember it last year, the finals was televised live from a local channel as well as BTV.  So this year most probably ganun pa rin.  This time C/S will air it live.  The "problem" is that the finals aired on the local channel had filipino broadcasters.  BTV aired the US broadcast.  I assume the same set up will still be applied.

chino trinidad and quinito henson??  >:(
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 19, 2008 at 12:28 PM
chino trinidad and quinito henson??  >:(

most probably... ;( ... thats why its better watching it from the japanese channel (Ch.51 for cablelink subscribers)
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Post by: Battousai on May 19, 2008 at 01:32 PM
I'm betting the NBA "makes it possible" for an LA-Boston Finals. David Stern is wetting his pants right now thinking of the ratings and moolah that a Celtics-LAkers retro match-up will generate.  ;D

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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 19, 2008 at 01:36 PM
I'm betting the NBA "makes it possible" for an LA-Boston Finals. David Stern is wetting his pants right now thinking of the ratings and moolah that a Celtics-LAkers retro match-up will generate.  ;D



No doubt about it after last year's all time ratings low finals.  But to Boston & LA's credit, they can get their even w/o Stern's "help".
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Post by: Munskie on May 19, 2008 at 01:40 PM
So it will be Spurs 5 versus Hornets 8 tomorrow.... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on May 19, 2008 at 01:46 PM
I hope the Spurs win tomorrow, because that should make this year's Final Four a classic: Detroit and San Antonio - the two dominant teams so far this decade - matching up against Boston and the LA Lakers - the most dominant franchises in the NBA ever.  

* * * * * * * * * * * *

(AP) - A look at the matchup between the Boston Celtics and Detroit Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals, which begin Tuesday night (with regular-season record, playoff series marks in parentheses):

No. 1 BOSTON CELTICS (66-16, 8-6) vs. No. 3 DETROIT PISTONS (59-23, 8-3)

Season Series: Celtics, 2-1. The Pistons handed the Celtics their first home loss when Chauncey Billups made two free throws with 0.1 seconds left for an 87-85 victory on Dec. 19. Boston won the last two meetings, holding Detroit to 81.5 points per game. The Pistons shot just 38.6 percent in the three games. Kevin Garnett averaged 24 points for Boston, while Billups went for 22.7 per game but made only 16 of 41 shots (39 percent).

Storyline: The teams with the top records in the NBA meet in the Eastern Conference finals matchup that most everyone expected. Detroit had little trouble getting here for the sixth straight year, but Boston was pushed to seven games in each of the first two rounds, winning all its home games while going 0-6 on the road.

Key Matchup I: Paul Pierce vs. Tayshaun Prince. Pierce scored 41 points in the Celtics’ Game 7 victory over Cleveland, but he was inconsistent in the series, struggling through 2-for-14, 6-for-17 and 5-for-15 performances. Now he gets a superb postseason defender in Prince, who shut down Philadelphia’s Andre Iguodala in the first round and contained Orlando’s Hedo Turkoglu in key spots in the last series. And he’s played very well offensively in the postseason, averaging 16 points on 56 percent shooting. Pierce was held to 15 points on 37 percent shooting against Detroit in the regular season.

Key Matchup II: Richard Hamilton vs. Ray Allen. They’re regarded as the two best players from UConn, but there’s no debating which one has been better in this postseason. Hamilton is averaging 21.5 points, leading Detroit in scoring and boosting that to 31.5 per game in the last two games against Orlando, when the Pistons were without Billups. Allen was horrible against the Cavaliers, managing just 9.3 points and making less than one-third of his shots. One of the best outside shooters in league history, he didn’t hit a 3-pointer in either of the last two games.

X-Factor: Backing up their points. Pistons rookie Rodney Stuckey showed he can run the team when Billups missed nearly three games with an injured hamstring in the last round, but Boston’s backup to second-year point guard Rajon Rondo looks more unsettled. Sam Cassell, signed late in the year for playoff experience, hasn’t made a shot since Game 2 and fell out of the rotation. If Rondo struggles, it may be Eddie House who inherits his minutes.

Prediction: Pistons in 6.
-> I SAY BOSTON IN 7.  :)

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Sana nga Boston-LA sa Finals!  I'm sure the Celtics and Lakers of old will be showing up in full force (like Greg Kite and A.C. Green he he).  And I hope they wear retro unis during the series - kaso hanggang ngayon, retro pa rin pala ang Boston most of the time.  :P 

The only problem for the few who will be stuck with watching the Finals on C/S Sports (like me) - more inane commentary from Chino Trinidad and/or Andy Jao.  >:(  Pwede pa si Vito Lazatin & Quinito Henson.



 

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jiggs84 on May 19, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Sana nga Boston-LA sa Finals!  I'm sure the Celtics and Lakers of old will be showing up in full force (like Greg Kite and A.C. Green he he).  And I hope they wear retro unis during the series - kaso hanggang ngayon, retro pa rin pala ang Boston most of the time.  :P 

yeah, im thinking of RETRO shorts for the finals. kahit na 1-half of the game lang like what Lakers did towards the latter part of this season...

a Lakers-Celtics finals would be great for the NBA... Lakers in 7 if that happens
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 19, 2008 at 03:52 PM
In the 80's, the Celtics and the Lakers were the toast of the NBA.  The last time they met in the Finals, Michael Jackson was still the King of Pop.

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AADQ010~Larry-Bird-and-Magic-Johnson-Posters.jpg)


While this man
(http://www.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/08/shaq.jpg) helped the Lakers win 3 of the four NBA titles they added since,

the Celts were stuck in constant mediocrity (http://www.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0206/nba_dailydime_268.jpg)


And when former Celts McHale and Ainge facilitated the resurgence of Boston this year by forming the Big 3 (http://cache.boston.com/images/sports/celtics/2007/0801big3_1024768.jpg)

Their rival, the Lakers countered and were not to be outdone.............(http://www.pe.com/imagesdaily/2008/04-03/trail_blazers_lakers_basket_400a.jpg)


And now, with the Lakers and the Celtics both in NBA's Final Four:

the 80's fever is rising up!!!! (http://www.nba.com/media/shortslakers_300_071230.jpg)



And with Jackson (http://www.unc.edu/~bretd/images/philjackson.jpg)
threatening to fill all his fingers with rings, an old guard of Boston might just roll over his grave, and smoke that cigar once again....... (http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_RA_66_ap.jpg)


I know that Im not alone praying for this match-up (http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper1060/stills/38ck5od7.jpg)

I have big help........(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/07/24/sports/basketball/24nba-600.jpg)

Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jiggs84 on May 19, 2008 at 03:59 PM
nice one sir munskie.
bring on the Celtics-Lakers finals.
ganda niyan!
i hope they have 1 game scheduled on the June9 holiday already!
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 19, 2008 at 04:56 PM
basta LAKERS sa finals...kahit Detroit pa yan :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on May 19, 2008 at 05:09 PM
nice one sir munskie.
bring on the Celtics-Lakers finals.
ganda niyan!
i hope they have 1 game scheduled on the June9 holiday already!

According to this Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NBA_Finals), Game 1 of the NBA Finals will start on June 5 (Thu) in the US.  But Game 2 will be on June 8 - so perfect for our June 9 holiday.  Sunday-Tuesday-Thursday nga ang sked ng ABC sa US - puro weekday sa atin.  :-[ 

This thread has really got me psyched for a Celtics-Lakers finals!  Parang Toyota-Crispa!  Lots of NBA fans (except those in the late teens or early 20's) will be very disappointed if it's not going to happen.  Pero sige na nga, pwede na rin ang Lakers-Pistons.  :)
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: tonedeaf on May 19, 2008 at 05:45 PM
i'm a laker fan, and would love a lakers-boston final. even lakers-detroit would be nice, an opportunity for payback for 2004.

if you were david stern, however, wouldn't you have nightmares of a spurs-detroit finale? can you say low ratings?  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 19, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Old rivalry in the making. Everyone's praying for a CELTICS vs LAKERS NBA FINALS. This will be great for the league specially for advertisements and endorsers.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 19, 2008 at 06:16 PM
i'm a laker fan, and would love a lakers-boston final. even lakers-detroit would be nice, an opportunity for payback for 2004.

if you were david stern, however, wouldn't you have nightmares of a spurs-detroit finale? can you say low ratings?  ;D

Even scribes sa ESPN are predicting low TV ratings if this is another Detroit-Spurs finlas. No disrespect to the 2 great teams but they lack the "showtime" that Boston, Lakers and Cavs (let's throw in NO because of CP3) that captures more viewers.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dyerds on May 19, 2008 at 08:47 PM
That is what I like about the Spurs, many don't like them but they don't mind it for them it's all about winning. Who cares about low or high ratings sila David Stern lang naman makikinabang dun. Kaya nga nila ginawang 7 games ang first round para umpisa pa lang ng play-offs kumikita na sila. ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 19, 2008 at 09:01 PM
That is what I like about the Spurs, many don't like them but they don't mind it for them it's all about winning. Who cares about low or high ratings sila David Stern lang naman makikinabang dun. Kaya nga nila ginawang 7 games ang first round para umpisa pa lang ng play-offs kumikita na sila. ;D
The Spurs is definitely one of the elite teams in the NBA. They're always there and if any of the western teams would like to go to the NBA finals must first get pass them just like the PISTONS in the east.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 19, 2008 at 09:03 PM
Yup ganun nga ang Spurs.  They do whatever it takes to win the title.  Kahit intentionally manakit ng player sa kabila.  Lalo na si Bowen.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dyerds on May 19, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Love them or hate them they are still the champs until someone beat them. Unfortunately , because of Bowen and Horry Spurs are being tagged as a dirty team when in fact those are just role players that surround Duncan who is really the major reason why they won 4 titles.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 19, 2008 at 09:22 PM
Yup ganun nga ang Spurs.  They do whatever it takes to win the title.  Kahit intentionally manakit ng player sa kabila.  Lalo na si Bowen.

A plethora of youtube videos, on how dirty Bruce Bowen is.   He's a master at sticking his leg out right when a player is about to descend from jumping.

I was a player then, and that is a big no no in basketball.   Its one of those unwritten rules in Basketball.   This is a sample when you have crossed the line from being rough and physical to being dirty.   

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KubRIzcLIA4&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KubRIzcLIA4&feature=related)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tdxXvkMB6gA (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tdxXvkMB6gA)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OiMpWIlk8GE (http://youtube.com/watch?v=OiMpWIlk8GE)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGQMubkHKPE (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGQMubkHKPE)

Even if you are a Spurs fan, it will be very hard to deny this stuff.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 19, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Love them or hate them they are still the champs until someone beat them. Unfortunately , because of Bowen and Horry Spurs are being tagged as a dirty team when in fact those are just role players that surround Duncan who is really the major reason why they won 4 titles.
Sir may i add Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili together w/ Tim Duncan are the main reasons why the Spurs are hard to beat. I would also like to give some credits to Coach Greg Popovich for transforming the Spurs to what they are now, a tough team to beat.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dyerds on May 19, 2008 at 09:51 PM
Well nobody is denying the fact that sometimes he (Bowen) plays dirty but that is not the reason why they win championships. He is one of the toughest defenders there is right now in the NBA and that is what Spurs wants from him and not because those dirty stuff. Did someone tell Bulls that they won 3 titles because of Rodman's dirty tactics?  ;D No, because you know who really is the reason behind Bulls' 3-peat.
 
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Well nobody is denying the fact that sometimes he (Bowen) plays dirty but that is not the reason why they win championships. He is one of the toughest defenders there is right now in the NBA and that is what Spurs wants from him and not because those dirty stuff. Did someone tell Bulls that they won 3 titles because of Rodman's dirty tactics?  ;D No, because you know who really is the reason behind Bulls' 3-peat.
 
The league knows that the players know that the referees know that even the spectators know that but still Bruce Bowen is still allowed to play in the league and he hasnt been thrown out of the games for quite a long time. not even suspended nor fined for quite a while. Bruce Bowen is a significant figure in the Spurs line up becoz of he's intensity and aggressiveness. His talent is nothing compared to Kobe Bryant but he plays w/ a lot of heart. Truly he may be considered a dirty player it is his job to stop the opponent's most lethal weapon. For a coach, you'll love to have a player like him to do all the dirty jobs for you.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 19, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Don't get me wrong.  Duncan, Ginobli & Parker are the main reasons why the Spurs are multiple champs.  What I am saying is it also a major factor and it "helps" their cause to deliberately hurt the other teams' best player.  Like I said, the Spurs do whatever it takes to win.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM
The league knows that the players know that the referees know that even the spectators know that but still Bruce Bowen is still allowed to play in the league and he hasnt been thrown out of the games for quite a long time. not even suspended nor fined for quite a while. Bruce Bowen is a significant figure in the Spurs line up becoz of he's intensity and aggressiveness. His talent is nothing compared to Kobe Bryant but he plays w/ a lot of heart. Truly he may be considered a dirty player it is his job to stop the opponent's most lethal weapon. For a coach, you'll love to have a player like him to do all the dirty jobs for you.

Actually what you posted is incorrect.  Bowen was suspended by the league just last March 2008 for deliberately kicking Chris Paul while he was down on the floor.  This also reflects on a coach who encourages such actions.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM
  Like I said, the Spurs do whatever it takes to win.
The Championship is at stake definitely any team should and must do whatever it takes to win. Intimidate their opponents, setting statements and enduring pain. The bottom line is w/c team wants it more? Play hard or go home.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 19, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Actually what you posted is incorrect.  Bowen was suspended by the league just last March 2008 for deliberately kicking Chris Paul while he was down on the floor.  This also reflects on a coach who encourages such actions.
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Battousai on May 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM
The only thing that the Spurs can't seem to do is repeat as champs.  ;D

Oh, and Bruce Bowen is a thug. He might play good defense, but he's a dirty player overall. I was really hoping someone from the Hornets would give him a taste of his defense, especially with what Bowen did to CP3.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Oh, and Bruce Bowen is a thug. He might play good defense, but he's a dirty player overall.

Which is the reason why sportswriters' say he hasn't won the defensive player of the year award despite landing on the 1st team all defense several times.
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Post by: dobler on May 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Oh, and Bruce Bowen is a thug. He might play good defense, but he's a dirty player overall.

That's the main reason why he pratically didn't play as a member of the USA Basketball World Championship Team. Nobody really likes the guy except for Coach Pop. There was even an article about his experience with USA Basketball a while back which mentioned that it was just a wasted opportunity for him in the roster. Hehe
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 19, 2008 at 11:15 PM
That's the main reason why he pratically didn't play as a member of the USA Basketball World Championship Team. Nobody really likes the guy except for Coach Pop. There was even an article about his experience with USA Basketball a while back which mentioned that it was just a wasted opportunity for him in the roster. Hehe
Its always good to have an enforcer in the US team coz you'll never know how physical international competition is nowadays and players of other nations arent afraid of NBA players anymore they love to challenge them and play physical w/ them just to get the goat out of these celebrated NBA players.
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Post by: dobler on May 19, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Its always good to have an enforcer in the US team coz you'll never know how physical international competition is nowadays and players of other nations arent afraid of NBA players anymore they love to challenge them and play physical w/ them just to get the goat out of these celebrated NBA players.

True but sayang lang talaga yung roster spot in Bowen. I think he didn't even score a field goal the entire tournament. Bit OT but a consistent outside shooter would have been better in his place.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 01:02 AM
The league knows that the players know that the referees know that even the spectators know that but still Bruce Bowen is still allowed to play in the league and he hasnt been thrown out of the games for quite a long time. not even suspended nor fined for quite a while. Bruce Bowen is a significant figure in the Spurs line up becoz of he's intensity and aggressiveness. His talent is nothing compared to Kobe Bryant but he plays w/ a lot of heart. Truly he may be considered a dirty player it is his job to stop the opponent's most lethal weapon. For a coach, you'll love to have a player like him to do all the dirty jobs for you.
The Championship is at stake definitely any team should and must do whatever it takes to win. Intimidate their opponents, setting statements and enduring pain. The bottom line is w/c team wants it more? Play hard or go home.

One word.  Machiavelli.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 20, 2008 at 06:29 AM
True but sayang lang talaga yung roster spot in Bowen. I think he didn't even score a field goal the entire tournament. Bit OT but a consistent outside shooter would have been better in his place.
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You can tell that to Coach K and his staff. Its hard dealing w/ celebrated NBA players, Bowen wont mind being benched coz he's only a role player. Since Tayshaun Prince plays the lead role defender is doin fine, there's no need for Mr Bowen to come in conquer at that time. We'll see whats the final composition of the USA team after the NBA finals. Should Mr Bowen still be included then perhaps Coach K has his reasons.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: sanmig_ph on May 20, 2008 at 09:00 AM
bro anung chanel kaya live game7 spurs & NO?
thanks
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 09:16 AM
bro anung chanel kaya live game7 spurs & NO?
thanks
BTV bro
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Post by: sanmig_ph on May 20, 2008 at 09:20 AM
thanks bro,sayang wala kami BTV.
limited lang kasi dito samin espn,solar,star sports lang
ben sports wala pang signal
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Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 09:27 AM
thanks bro,sayang wala kami BTV.
limited lang kasi dito samin espn,solar,star sports lang
ben sports wala pang signal
tanong mo cable provider mo, kasi kung meron ka solar sports, might be possible special channel ang BTV sa inyo.   BTV kasi is part of solar group.
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 20, 2008 at 09:37 AM

try it sa channel 9 sa free tv, it may be seen live CS channel like the Lakers game last saturday.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Wiggum on May 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM
^ No game on C/S Sports today.  But here's their sked for the rest of the week:

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/CSMay19-26.jpg)

Ayos na tayong mga walang BTV until Monday.  Alternatively, there should be live telecasts from ESPN (Wed, Sat) and Star Sports (Fri). 

Spurs are looking good in their Game 7...
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Post by: dyerds on May 20, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Hahaha!  ;D Hirap talaga ng ganitong naghihintay kung saan natin papanoorin ang NBA ng live. Buti na lang ipapalabas ng ESPN ang game kahit weekday. Problema lang sa ESPN malabo ang PQ pero okay na rin basta mapanood. Problema din kasi sa Cablelink kapag umuulan nawawala sa Channel 51 yung game.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Yep....the Spurs looks good so far.

The Spurs' play-off experience is pretty evident.

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Post by: jiggs84 on May 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Problema din kasi sa Cablelink kapag umuulan nawawala sa Channel 51 yung game.

hmmm... i never noticed that. pero PQ is good ha.
even dun sa CS channel, clear ang picture.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 10:37 AM
As much as I castigated Horry for slowly transforming into a thug in the twilight of his career, there he goes, and does his imitation of his old self, cashing in two 3s.  This guy has 7 rings, more than MJ, more than Magic.   

And boy, I must do agree, Manu eats game 7s for breakfast.   Its the one big difference I have seen after 3 quarters so far.   The Spurs know the mentality going into a game 7.   The Hornets so far are searching for it.  Game 7 mentality, only experience can teach you how to get it.
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Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2008 at 10:39 AM
19 of the Spurs' 71 points came from the bench. I like the way the Spurs are handling this.
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Post by: dyerds on May 20, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Yep....the Spurs looks good so far.

The Spurs' play-off experience is pretty evident.



It's not over until it's over. Eventhough lamang ang Spurs ng 11, Hornets can get hot lalo na si Paul and that is scary but I do hope Spurs win.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM
sa bench talaga nagkakatalo.. that has been the problem of the Hornets eh.. if they can't get enough contribution from their bench, mahihirapan talaga sila..
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Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 10:46 AM
It's not over until it's over. Eventhough lamang ang Spurs ng 11, Hornets can get hot lalo na si Paul and that is scary but I do hope Spurs win.

Yes...there are on a mini-run now.   
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Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Yes...there are on a mini-run now.   

And no time-out yet from SA!
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Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 10:50 AM
sa bench talaga nagkakatalo.. that has been the problem of the Hornets eh.. if they can't get enough contribution from their bench, mahihirapan talaga sila..

That Bonzi Wells should just retire.   He just doesnt have the right attitude.   No heart for the game.   He belongs with the likes of Marbury, JR Rider (retired), and the like.
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 20, 2008 at 11:03 AM
looks like the road to the championship really has to go through the Spurs.
still up by 4, 2:59 left
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Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2008 at 11:05 AM
NO seems panicking.
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 20, 2008 at 11:09 AM

its going to be a great Conference Finals, great NBA Final Four

Celtics - Pistons and
Lakers - Spurs
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Post by: jht3 on May 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Too bad for the Hornets  :(
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Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Credit to Pargo. CP3 should have wanted the ball more. Win or lose.
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 20, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Too bad for the Hornets  :(
yeah, but its alright. they have to do it one step at a time.
thats what happened to the pistons and the bulls before they became champs.

the pistons have to go thru the celtics,
the bulls have to go thru the pistons
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Post by: jht3 on May 20, 2008 at 11:55 AM
yeah, but its alright. they have to do it one step at a time.
thats what happened to the pistons and the bulls before they became champs.

the pistons have to go thru the celtics,
the bulls have to go thru the pistons

I see. Good point bro  ;D
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Post by: dyerds on May 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM
What happened to West?  :o He is non-existent in the fourth quarter. I agree that CP3 should take over eventhough Pargo is hot. I believe it's the lack of experience that really costs them Game 7. Btw, si Stojakovic another disappointment, tulad nung game nila dati against Lakers when he is still with Sacramento and that is also game 7, ang lalayo ng tira nya eventhough he made 1 or 2 3-point shots but still he did not make any impact in the game.
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Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 01:27 PM
Are you in need of good sleep?

(http://k53.pbase.com/u26/digitalgee/upload/43838234.sleepy.jpg)


If not....l hope this happens.....

(http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2008/0421_large.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: DaSilva on May 20, 2008 at 01:34 PM
suicide watch for ray allen

after disappearing against the cavs and having a tough time chasing the slow-footed wally world, the celtics' 2-guard faces the prospect of guarding the following players in the next two rounds:

- rip hamilton
- kobe bryant or manu ginobili
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Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 01:48 PM
suicide watch for ray allen

after disappearing against the cavs and having a tough time chasing the slow-footed wally world, the celtics' 2-guard faces the prospect of guarding the following players in the next two rounds:

- rip hamilton
- kobe bryant or manu ginobili
Marami na rin history na foot injuries si Allen...then you factor in his age plus he is not exactly a good defender......ayun, mahihirapan talaga sya.   Thats why they have Posey around...
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 20, 2008 at 01:49 PM
Are you in need of good sleep?

If not....l hope this happens.....

 ;D ;D ;D


appropriate phrase - the ultimate crowd pleaser!
two the the greatest franchise in NBA history going at it again!
Phil Jackson to complete both hands with R-I-N-G-S!!!

who will take the last shot? - Kobe/Pierce
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 20, 2008 at 06:49 PM
So the Spurs's experience prevailed. Now the reckoning begins, its gonna be WAR! The Lakers must pray for the strength to endure what is expected to come coz the Spurs will do anything to retain their crown. This is gonna be a hell of a series. Kobe Bryant must stay focused on his game coz Mr Bowen will surely be goin at him all game long.
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Post by: Munskie on May 20, 2008 at 07:14 PM
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2008/05/19/lakers.practice.ap/p1.duncan.ap.jpg)
Boo!!   Andito uli kami....

(http://www.respectkobe.com/img/guns.jpg)
My Guns will be ready, Tim.

(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/05/31/PH2007053100049.jpg)
Ready na daw sya oh...ako bahala sa kanya..

(http://images.ocregister.com/newsimages/sports/2008/04/19_lakerspre1_medium.jpg)
Bweehehehehe...mababantay ba tayo lahat ni Brusko??
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 20, 2008 at 07:32 PM
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2008/05/19/lakers.practice.ap/p1.duncan.ap.jpg)
Boo!!   Andito uli kami....

(http://www.respectkobe.com/img/guns.jpg)
My Guns will be ready, Tim.

(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/05/31/PH2007053100049.jpg)
Ready na daw sya oh...ako bahala sa kanya..
Nice pixs bro Mr Bowen looks like a devil here.he he.
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Post by: dobler on May 20, 2008 at 09:00 PM
Trevor Ariza's off the injured list. Cleared for full contact
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 20, 2008 at 09:59 PM
LA BOSTON fans, there wont be any walk in the park for both teams. For both to enter the grand finale both have to surpass great obstacles Boston has Detroit and LA has San Antonio. Very excellent final 4. I hope both series reach game 7. 
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Post by: blackie on May 20, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Let's GO Bad Boys, Let's Go!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 21, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Lakers in 4!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 21, 2008 at 12:06 AM
yeah, but its alright. they have to do it one step at a time.
thats what happened to the pistons and the bulls before they became champs.

the pistons have to go thru the celtics,
the bulls have to go thru the pistons

Actually, the Pistons have to wait for Bird's age to catch up with him.  And the Bulls got their chance when the Pistons got satisfied with only a repeat.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 21, 2008 at 05:06 AM
Lakers in 4!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Against the Spurs? u gotta be kidding. You should be more generous and give atleast 2 games for the defending champs.
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Post by: Wiggum on May 21, 2008 at 06:13 AM
REPORT: Bad sign for the Spurs? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=jl-spurstarmac052008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

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(AP) - A look at the matchup in the Western Conference finals, which begin Wednesday night (with regular-season record, playoff series marks in parentheses):

No. 1 LOS ANGELES LAKERS (57-25, 8-2) vs. No. 3 SAN ANTONIO SPURS (56-26, 8-4).

Season Series: Tied, 2-2, with each team winning both its home games. The Spurs were never at full strength in Los Angeles, missing Tim Duncan and Tony Parker in their first loss and Manu Ginobili on April 13, when the Lakers rolled to a 106-85 victory to clinch the Pacific Division title. That was the only meeting after the Lakers acquired Pau Gasol. Kobe Bryant averaged 24.3 points for the Lakers, while Parker scored 20.7 per game for the Spurs. Ginobili managed just 14.3 on 31 per cent shooting.

Storyline: The sixth post-season meeting between the Western Conference powers in the last 10 years, but the first since 2004. The Spurs knocked out the Lakers on their way to titles in 1999 and 2003, while the Lakers eliminated the Spurs in 2001, '02 and '04, winning championships the first two times.

Key Matchup I: Bryant vs. Bruce Bowen. Bowen, perhaps the league's best perimeter defender, tries to contain the NBA's MVP. Bryant, the leading scorer in the playoffs with 33.3 points per game, said the back injury that slowed him in the second round is healed. Bowen will certainly try to find out if that's true, using his physical defensive tendencies that have annoyed plenty of opponents. And the Lakers better be alert when Bowen has the ball. He made 12 of 15 three-pointers and averaged 12.3 points against Los Angeles, his best performance against any opponent.

Key Matchup II: Derek Fisher vs. Parker. Spurs fans need no reminder that Fisher is a clutch post-season performer, recalling his game-winning jumper with 0.4 seconds left in the Lakers' Game 5 victory at San Antonio in 2004. He is averaging 11.9 points in the playoffs, shooting 51 per cent from the floor and making 17 of 29 3-pointers. He might be more important defensively, because the Lakers must control Parker's penetration and keep the NBA finals MVP out of the paint. If Fisher can't do it, Bryant may have to expend energy to guard him.

X-Factor: Ime Udoka. Bowen's backup seemed to win coach Gregg Popovich's trust in the latter half of the second round and played well during his extended minutes, making 11 of 17 three-pointers (65 per cent) in the final four games. He should get some chances to check Bryant.

Prediction: Lakers in 5.


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Post by: steelcrazy on May 21, 2008 at 06:31 AM
REPORT: Bad sign for the Spurs? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=jl-spurstarmac052008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

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(AP) - A look at the matchup in the Western Conference finals, which begin Wednesday night (with regular-season record, playoff series marks in parentheses):

No. 1 LOS ANGELES LAKERS (57-25, 8-2) vs. No. 3 SAN ANTONIO SPURS (56-26, 8-4).

Season Series: Tied, 2-2, with each team winning both its home games. The Spurs were never at full strength in Los Angeles, missing Tim Duncan and Tony Parker in their first loss and Manu Ginobili on April 13, when the Lakers rolled to a 106-85 victory to clinch the Pacific Division title. That was the only meeting after the Lakers acquired Pau Gasol. Kobe Bryant averaged 24.3 points for the Lakers, while Parker scored 20.7 per game for the Spurs. Ginobili managed just 14.3 on 31 per cent shooting.

Storyline: The sixth post-season meeting between the Western Conference powers in the last 10 years, but the first since 2004. The Spurs knocked out the Lakers on their way to titles in 1999 and 2003, while the Lakers eliminated the Spurs in 2001, '02 and '04, winning championships the first two times.

Key Matchup I: Bryant vs. Bruce Bowen. Bowen, perhaps the league's best perimeter defender, tries to contain the NBA's MVP. Bryant, the leading scorer in the playoffs with 33.3 points per game, said the back injury that slowed him in the second round is healed. Bowen will certainly try to find out if that's true, using his physical defensive tendencies that have annoyed plenty of opponents. And the Lakers better be alert when Bowen has the ball. He made 12 of 15 three-pointers and averaged 12.3 points against Los Angeles, his best performance against any opponent.

Key Matchup II: Derek Fisher vs. Parker. Spurs fans need no reminder that Fisher is a clutch post-season performer, recalling his game-winning jumper with 0.4 seconds left in the Lakers' Game 5 victory at San Antonio in 2004. He is averaging 11.9 points in the playoffs, shooting 51 per cent from the floor and making 17 of 29 3-pointers. He might be more important defensively, because the Lakers must control Parker's penetration and keep the NBA finals MVP out of the paint. If Fisher can't do it, Bryant may have to expend energy to guard him.

X-Factor: Ime Udoka. Bowen's backup seemed to win coach Gregg Popovich's trust in the latter half of the second round and played well during his extended minutes, making 11 of 17 three-pointers (65 per cent) in the final four games. He should get some chances to check Bryant.

Prediction: Lakers in 5.



You forgot all about what kinda clutch player Manu Ginobili is. He's a tough nut to crack and i feel his performance together w/ Tony Parker will determine the result of their battle against the Lakers. They are the best penetrating backcourt tandem in the entire NBA. They create for themselves offensively thus making life easier for Duncan under the basket and Mike Finley beyond 3 pt region. LA and SA are the two elite teams in the NBA & their showdown is worth watching. Expect War immediately after the first tip off.
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Post by: dyerds on May 21, 2008 at 08:05 AM
West
Game 6: San Antonio Spurs - If Spurs want to win against the Lakers it should be done within 6 games if not Spurs would hate to go to LA on a Game 7 where Bryant and co will have homecourt advantage. Compare to Hornets, Lakers has what it takes under pressure and with Bryant around it is always very dangerous on a crucial game. So if Spurs want to win this series it should be done on Game 6, this means that Spurs should split the first two games and go back to San Antonio winning all of their home games, losing in LA on Game 5 and beating the Lakers on Game 6.

Game 7: Lakers -  Lakers and San Antonio will win on their own respective turfs. With Lakers having the homecourt advantage, they will prevail on Game 7. 

East
Games 5 or 6: Piston -  Piston will prevail if their defence will be effective against the Celtics. I don't think they can stop the big 3. All they need to do is stop 1 or 2 of these big 3 and the supporting cast and they will win this series. 

Game 7: Boston - This means that all that Celtics should do is win all of their games in Boston, which is their trend right now, and they will go to the NBA finals!  ;D ;D ;D In order to beat the Piston they need to play a fast pace game to defeat Detroit's hard-nose defence. They should also stop Hamilton and Bbbbbbillups  scoring from the outside and let other do the job. I am giving Celtics a slim chance of winning this series because they seem to have a hard time finding their sync in the play-offs which was very evident on both of their series against Atlanta and Cleveland. With 3 all-stars in their line up, they don't know who will take over their team. Would it be Pierce, Garnett or Allen? If Celtics want to win this series KG must know when to be selfish and  unselfish,  Pierce must play like what he did in game 7 of their series against the Cavs and Allen must be a consistent outside shooter. Lastly, they need the support of their role players which I think was the very reason why they are the no. 1 team this season.
                         
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Post by: Wiggum on May 21, 2008 at 08:48 AM
You forgot all about what kinda clutch player Manu Ginobili is. He's a tough nut to crack and i feel his performance together w/ Tony Parker will determine the result of their battle against the Lakers. They are the best penetrating backcourt tandem in the entire NBA. They create for themselves offensively thus making life easier for Duncan under the basket and Mike Finley beyond 3 pt region. LA and SA are the two elite teams in the NBA & their showdown is worth watching. Expect War immediately after the first tip off.

I lifted my post from the Associated Press, dude.  :)  IMO, Manu's an even bigger X-factor in this series, as in the last series vs. the Hornets.  Definitely, he's not going to be overlooked by anyone.  Kobe (and maybe Vujacic) will probably get this defensive assignment.  I just hope Kobe does not spend too much energy or get called for poor fouls while guarding Ginobili.  The Duncan-Gasol match-up should also be critical.

Boston's off to a good start...
 
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Post by: dyerds on May 21, 2008 at 08:53 AM
What!?! 8 - 0 kaagad!  :o
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Post by: kristerocky on May 21, 2008 at 08:57 AM
I fancy a Lakers-Celtics finals.. ;D
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Post by: pekspert on May 21, 2008 at 09:25 AM
DEEEEETROIIIIIT all the way!!! ;)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 21, 2008 at 10:20 AM
So far the pace is benefiting the Celtics.  Ray Allen is coming along nicely.  Detroit is actually giving him the open shots...he's just hesitant to shoot them.
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Post by: RNIverson on May 21, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Most ESPN experts didn't expect the Spurs to beat the Hornets and especially the Suns, using their key matchups and statistics as basis. Can't wait for them to be disappointed for the third time  :P

I hope the Spurs can upgrade their center position next season, because without the usual dominant Mavs and Suns, no one else can challenge the Lakers with Bynum next season. Oops, forgot about the rising Hornets  ;D

BTW, if you're the Bulls GM, who'd you pick #1  ;)
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Post by: kimpOy on May 21, 2008 at 10:44 AM
micheal beasley...

anyways going into 4th sa mga walang BTV

 http://www.justin.tv/psn_tr3s
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 10:49 AM
BTW, if you're the Bulls GM, who'd you pick #1  ;)

Easy pick actually.  Its 6'10" PF Beasley.  They need it more than picking PG Rose.   They already have all the jumpshooters.   Beasley can provide the interior scoring that is lacking since they traded away Elton Brand.   

The Miami Heat is still fortunate picking 2nd behind the Bulls.   PG Rose definitely fills a need for them at the position.   A Rose-Wade backcourt will be explosive.   With Marion there too, and it will a run and gun team for them.  Rose was described by scouts as a Kidd with a jumpshot.

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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 21, 2008 at 10:51 AM
^Beasly and probably get a trade for Thomas and/or Noah (but I'd keep Noah instead of Thomas).
Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Beasly and Noah --> young core group that you can continue to build around.
Although you can also make a case for D-Rose.
Bulls can get something for Hinrich plus I think Duhon wants out of the Bulls roster.
Rose, Gordon, Deng, Thomas, Noah --> not bad at all

Either way, Heat will benefit from the left overs of Chicago.
Then release all the D-Leaguers they have to clear cap space and go after some free agents.
They don't need stars, they already have D-Wade and the #2 pick, they'll need good role players.
You'll probably see Heat fighting for #7 or 8 seed in the East next year.

Sonics will have a another high pick to place beside KD.
I think they need a 2, who do they have at that position?
PG positon is also in question. They have Green at the 3 position so they're good with that.
I think they also have a young duo of centers -- but none are scorers.

Munskie: hehehe same observation tayo...swerte pa din Heat. Kasi they get #2, at least they will get either Beasly or Rose.
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I hope the Spurs can upgrade their center position next season, because without the usual dominant Mavs and Suns, no one else can challenge the Lakers with Bynum next season. Oops, forgot about the rising Hornets  ;D


Thats why as a Laker fan, I wont be heartbroken that much if they fail to win it all this year.   Future is pretty bright for them.  A Bynum-Gasol frontline will be huge with their freakish length.
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 11:10 AM
^Beasly and probably get a trade for Thomas and/or Noah (but I'd keep Noah instead of Thomas).
Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Beasly and Noah --> young core group that you can continue to build around.
Although you can also make a case for D-Rose.
Bulls can get something for Hinrich plus I think Duhon wants out of the Bulls roster.
Rose, Gordon, Deng, Thomas, Noah --> not bad at all

Yeah, I can sense that if they pick Beasley, Thomas will be expendable, especially if Thomas doesnt relish being a back-up to a rookie.   

As for making the case of the Bulls picking Rose, it is a possibilty yes, and I wont be surprised, since point guard play has been pretty big in NBA today.  Case in point, if you were to redo the 2005 draft, Deron Williams and Chris Paul will  either be 1 or 2, instead of Bogut and Marvin Williams.   

But common sense says its gonna be Beasley for the Bulls.   It fills a big need.  And if Beasley fills whats expected of him, guard play should improve for them, despite how we view Hinrich as average.
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 11:17 AM
DREAM MATCH-UP is ahead. 

For those hoping for a LA-BOSTON Finals, we're gonna need 8 wins.

So 1-0 na, after Celts defeat Pistons in game 1 of East Finals.

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Post by: DaSilva on May 21, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Thats why as a Laker fan, I wont be heartbroken that much if they fail to win it all this year. 

but i will definitely be upset...especially if they lose against the %$&*#! celtics. sorry, hehe, i've been a laker fan and celtic hater for the longest time.

but first they have to beat the san antonio freddy kruegers.

things to watch, for me:

- i think we'll see what gasol is really made of. his rep is that he suffers when playing against a strong 4. traditionally, lakers have defended duncan by making him operate "like he is in a box," to use phil's words. but they had shaq before;  it could be a problem for pau.

- mamba mano-a-mano against manu is interesting, as it pits two of the fiercest playoff pit bulls. hard to bet against those two hombres. they'll be going at each other from opposite sides of the floor, though, as bowen will almost certainly take on kobe.

- whatever defense the lakes can devise to keep tony longoria out of the lane. containing 2 playoff-mvp-caliber players is tough enough, let alone 3.

- can the spurs keep hot at the 3 point line. they buried the hornets from there, especially.
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM
but i will definitely be upset...especially if they lose against the %$&*#! celtics. sorry, hehe, i've been a laker fan and celtic hater for the longest time.
  Im keeping my expectations low. hehe.   So I dont have to be upset.   Winning it all is a bonus for me.  ;D ;D


- i think we'll see what gasol is really made of. his rep is that he suffers when playing against a strong 4. traditionally, lakers have defended duncan by making him operate "like he is in a box," to use phil's words. but they had shaq before;  it could be a problem for pau.
  Yup, he is labeled as soft.   But Gasol will never be a physical player.   He will be pushed and banged around, but his length keeps him afloat defensively.  I hope thats enough.

- mamba mano-a-mano against manu is interesting, as it pits two of the fiercest playoff pit bulls. hard to bet against those two hombres. they'll be going at each other from opposite sides of the floor, though, as bowen will almost certainly take on kobe.
  Less playing time maybe for Radmanovich.   We'll definitely see more of Kobe going SF during endgames.   Just like in the Utah series.

- whatever defense the lakes can devise to keep tony longoria out of the lane. containing 2 playoff-mvp-caliber players is tough enough, let alone 3.
They survived Deron Williams last time out.   But I agree, a three headed monster is much harder to contain. 
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 21, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Quote
They survived Deron Williams last time out.   But I agree, a three headed monster is much harder to contain. 

Was thinking the same thing...Deron is pretty close to Parker (actually Deron has a stronger upper body) and Fisher was able to run side by side with him. I am sure he can handle Parker and the pick and roll (unlike the Suns).

We'll probably see Vujacic-Bowen and Kobe-Manu when Lakers is on D. And the switch when SA is on D. I'm not sure if Bowen still got what it takes to handle Kobe all game long. His age was showing against the Suns and definitely NO. That is why they switched him over to Peja becasue no one can stop CP3. PLus Kobe was matched up against Harpring and AK47 in the previous round and we saw how that turned out.

I'd give the edge (a very close one at that) to the Lakers. You have to give what is due to the Spurs. Done it before and doing it again with an older line up. I jsut hope it's not like the SA-NO series where each game is a blow out by the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dyerds on May 21, 2008 at 02:30 PM
Expect Fisher to post Parker from time to time because of Fisher's strength but on the otherhand Fisher will have a hard time matching Parker's pace. Duncan will dominate Gasol in the painted area but not if they double team him everytime he has the ball. I think Bowen cannot stop Bryant for the obvious reason, there is no way that he can stop him. He just need to make it hard for Bryant to score every point he makes. Problem match-up for San Anotnio...Odom, I don't see anyone in San Antonio to match this 6'10 small forward not unless Jackson put him in no. 4 position. I am a Spurs fan so I would say Spurs in Game 6. Go Spurs!  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 02:48 PM
Problem match-up for San Anotnio...Odom, I don't see anyone in San Antonio to match this 6'10 small forward not unless Jackson put him in no. 4 position. I am a Spurs fan so I would say Spurs in Game 6. Go Spurs!  ;D
bro.... Odom has been playing the PF position all season long.  ;)   
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Post by: dyerds on May 21, 2008 at 03:01 PM
I see...sorry bro I haven't watch many Lakers games this season.  ;)  ;D If that's the case he will have a hard time matching up with Spurs' big men eventhough he has the advantage in speed.
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Post by: blackie on May 21, 2008 at 03:04 PM
GRRRRRRRRR talo bad Boys >:(
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Battousai on May 21, 2008 at 04:34 PM
I believe there's no one in the Spurs line-up that can match-up well with Odom. Duncan? Sure, he can probably stop Lamar if he posts up, but face-up one-on-one, Odom's speed and ball-handling will break TD's ankle. Bowen? Odom wil just post him up. Oberto? Nahhhh. Thomas? Just like Duncan. And what I like about Odom is how well he moves and cuts the lane. With Pau and Kobe's excellent passing, Odom would continue what he did against Utah, slicing the lane and waiting for the pass.

San Antonio is consistent in not repeating as champs, so, El-Ay has history backing their "sure" series win.  ;D
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Post by: RNIverson on May 21, 2008 at 04:49 PM
There's a first time for everything  ;) ;D
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Post by: Battousai on May 21, 2008 at 04:56 PM
Problem is, San Antonio's "first time" doesn't involve being in the Finals for two consecutive years. ;) ;D
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 05:11 PM
I believe there's no one in the Spurs line-up that can match-up well with Odom. Duncan? Sure, he can probably stop Lamar if he posts up, but face-up one-on-one, Odom's speed and ball-handling will break TD's ankle. Bowen? Odom wil just post him up. Oberto? Nahhhh. Thomas? Just like Duncan. And what I like about Odom is how well he moves and cuts the lane. With Pau and Kobe's excellent passing, Odom would continue what he did against Utah, slicing the lane and waiting for the pass.

San Antonio is consistent in not repeating as champs, so, El-Ay has history backing their "sure" series win.  ;D

Yeah, Odom and Gasol did withstood the likes of Okur, Boozer, kirilenko and Milsap in their semis series.   I know Duncan is of the higher breed, but the Utah big men are no slouch either.   So I like LA's chances.

Great analysis on Odom.   Many moments there in the Utah series where he blitzed by Boozer off the dribble.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 21, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Especially going down on transition. There were a number of backdoor cuts that opened him up for a dunk.
Expect the same thing with SA, he's gonna be matched with Oberto, Thomas and Horry so advantage goes to Odom (plus he can stroke the trey every now and then).

People are underestimating the length of Gasol on D. Just like Munskie mentioned, he'll never be a banger dow low but he defends well with those long arms. Plus Jackson is sure to have something up his sleeve against Duncan, Parker and Manu.

My sleeper -- Vujacic. He's been shooting a good percentage in their past 2 series. Plus he's very agressive on D. Manu will sure have his hands full with Kobe and Vujacic shifting on him.
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 21, 2008 at 10:40 PM
My sleeper is Jordan!  :o

Plus, Kobe is the only player that gives the Spurs a run for their money.  If you don't believe me, dig up the stats.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 21, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Sleeper? How about BIG SHOT ROB for the Spurs. Everyone know what he can do offensively and DEFENSIVELY.
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Post by: Munskie on May 21, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Sleeper? How about BIG SHOT ROB for the Spurs. Everyone know what he can do offensively and DEFENSIVELY.
say that again?   Im sorry, Im pretty confused....did you say.....Cheap shot Rob? Yeah, David West and Steve Nash certainly knows that...  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 22, 2008 at 05:57 AM
say that again?   Im sorry, Im pretty confused....did you say.....Cheap shot Rob? Yeah, David West and Steve Nash certainly knows that...  ;D ;D ;D
Pardon me bro, if your a Laker fan you should have remembered the few times Mr Horry bailed them out when he was still a Laker. No three peat for the Lakers, for Phil, Shaq and Kobe w/o BIG SHOT ROB by their side during those days. This guy's a winner, he is one of the very few perhaps the only NBA player in NBA history that is lucky enough to win multiple championships (not on the bench ha but as contributor) for every team he plays for. 2 (back to back) w/ Houston, 3 peat w/ LA, 2 (alternately) w/ SA. A lucky charm indeed to w/c ever team he lands. Yes Nash and West knows him defensively, now its time for KB24 to know him DEFENSIVELY too.
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Post by: bumblebee on May 22, 2008 at 09:32 AM
Not sure about West's, but the hip check on Nash was cheap. The guy's 6'3", 178lbs.

Anyway, how to beat the Lakers? Make Kobe shoot 30+.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dyerds on May 22, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Not sure about West's, but the hip check on Nash was cheap. The guy's 6'3", 178lbs.

Anyway, how to beat the Lakers? Make Kobe shoot 30+.
Right now he's not yet doing it. I think their strategy is to make other shoot the ball first and then Kobe will do his job in the second quarter or second half.
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Post by: RNIverson on May 22, 2008 at 09:53 AM
Wow, Radmanovic 5/5 fg for 10 1st qtr pts   :o

Looks like Kobe is just a decoy... for now
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Post by: kimpOy on May 22, 2008 at 09:58 AM
http://www.tnt.tv/sports/nba/playoffs08_live/
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Post by: RNIverson on May 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Can someone explain why Kobe has only attempted 2 shots so far? I'm only monitoring the game thru gamecast
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dyerds on May 22, 2008 at 10:19 AM
He is making other shoot the ball. I think he is pacing himself. Ayun na tumira na sa loob pasok!  :D 
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 22, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Kobe is trying to get his teammates involved first.  He'll do his thing in the second half specially in the latter part of the game.
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 22, 2008 at 10:29 AM
http://www.tnt.tv/sports/nba/playoffs08_live/

thanks for the link. will they show the FINALS?  ???
buti pa ang tnt !!!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 22, 2008 at 10:40 AM
thanks for the link. will they show the FINALS?  ???
buti pa ang tnt !!!
probably not...the Finals will be carried by ABC.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: RNIverson on May 22, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Kobe is trying to get his teammates involved first.  He'll do his thing in the second half specially in the latter part of the game.

Looking at Game 1 in progress, Kobe needs to start early
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: john5479 on May 22, 2008 at 11:16 AM
I would still want kobe to start scoring early, make the Spurs catch up. Anyway kobe and pau are heating up and its now a ball game hehe.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 22, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Looking at Game 1 in progress, Kobe needs to start early

Yup Kobe is trying to dominate the game now after a meek first half.
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Post by: Munskie on May 22, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Rants from a Laker Fan:

1.  Where's Odom?

2.   I cringe when Fisher drives to the basket.   Poor finisher.

3.  Turiaf taking jumphots:  Bad shot if missed...lucky if made.

4.   Turiaf cant guard Duncan 1 on 1.


Ill post raves if they win...hehe  ;)


Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: dyerds on May 22, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Score is tied right now. I really don't like it when Spurs goes small. They were very effective in the 1st quarter with two big guys.
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Post by: kimpOy on May 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM
http://www.justin.tv/psn_tr3s eto pa isa
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Post by: Munskie on May 22, 2008 at 11:56 AM
YAHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!    WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!


Never say die baby!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 22, 2008 at 11:57 AM
dont you just hate it when the spurs do this kind of thing?
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Post by: bumblebee on May 22, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Lakers bench played well. Maybe Pop should make Ginobli come off the bench again.
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Post by: skylynx888 on May 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM
YIPEE LAKERS WON!!!!!!

Boston - 1
Lakers - 1

6 more wins - matutupad na dream matchup!!!!  :D :D
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Post by: dyerds on May 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM
There is nothing to blame but the Spurs in losing Game 1. They became complacent after establishing a 20-pt lead. Lakers defence also did a great job in stopping Ginobili and Parker. Bawi na lang sa Game 2.  ;D
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Post by: a2 on May 22, 2008 at 12:25 PM
kobe with an mvp performance!! go for 2-0!!
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 22, 2008 at 01:07 PM
Random Thoughts on Game 1.

1.  The Spurs were very successful in their pick and roll offense early on.   They went away from it in the 2nd half, relying mainly on Duncan's post isolation.

2.  Odom tried early early on to assert his speed advantage over the Spurs big men, but was unsuccessful.   Oberto and Horry did a good job putting up a brick wall, resulting in numerous missed lay-ups by Odom.

3.  Vujacic is an underrated defender.   He was mainly responsible for limiting Manu Ginobili to 3-13 shooting.   

4.   The Laker bench outplayed the Spurs bench, not much in numbers, but in energizing the tempo.   Farmar and Vujacic were the primary contributors.   The Spurs bench was non-existent, save for Uduoka.   Finley was 0-5 overall, all of them on 3point attempts.  Overall, the Laker bench was +30 for the game (Vujacic was +25), while the Spurs bench was -25 (Finley was -21).

5.  Kobe Bryant must be aggressive early on.  He doesnt have to dominate in scoring, but he cant do a passive 2 point first half against the Spurs again.   They are too smart and disciplined to let a 20 point lead vanish again.   
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Post by: john5479 on May 22, 2008 at 01:09 PM
The problem with the spurs is they are prone to long dry spells, and they are not fast starters. I like the spurs' chances when manu is invloved in the scoring which was not the case in this game.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: Munskie on May 22, 2008 at 01:18 PM
The problem with the spurs is they are prone to long dry spells, and they are not fast starters. I like the spurs' chances when manu is invloved in the scoring which was not the case in this game.
They went scoreless for 6.5 minutes in the 4th.
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Post by: blackie on May 22, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Detroit Fan here.  If I may say, what a come back by Mr. Bryant :o
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Post by: alx on May 22, 2008 at 04:18 PM
YIPEE LAKERS WON!!!!!!

Boston - 1
Lakers - 1

6 more wins - matutupad na dream matchup!!!!  :D :D

same here!!!  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: kimpOy on May 22, 2008 at 05:04 PM
manu was shut down by sasha plus the lakers played great team defense...
add the perennial closer kobe bryant...1-0

but what a game whew.... kaka tense he..he
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 22, 2008 at 05:06 PM
Obviously Kobe is still at the top of his game.  He can simply turn it on whenever he wants.
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Post by: dyerds on May 22, 2008 at 07:59 PM
2.  Odom tried early early on to assert his speed advantage over the Spurs big men, but was unsuccessful.   Oberto and Horry did a good job putting up a brick wall, resulting in numerous missed lay-ups by Odom.

That is why I don't know why Pop decided to go small. Spurs play became predictable too when they went to Duncan in their every possession in the fourth.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 22, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Today the Lakers did what is needed to beat the Spurs. They beat them as a team. Hats off to Kobe Bryant. He played this game w/ a lot of maturity and patience. He didnt charge like a bull when they're down by 20 but he let his teammates go w/ the flow of the game thus boosting their confidence that resulted to their great comeback in this game. Credit should also go to Phil Jackson for shuffling his inexperienced 2nd unit and just let them play hard. With this come from behind win i'm sure the Laker's 2nd unit will be a lot more confident in the suceeding games to come.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 22, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Black Mamba just proved why he's MVP.
Led his team to a comeback not jsut by scoring but involving teammates as well (passes to Gasol and Odom).
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: steelcrazy on May 22, 2008 at 08:36 PM
Manu Ginobili was a none factor in today's game. He was harrassed all game long by the Laker's defense on him. He wasnt able to create and dictate the tempo he wanted. If the Laker continue to shut him down, then the series is over.
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Post by: DaSilva on May 23, 2008 at 07:44 AM

1.  The Spurs were very successful in their pick and roll offense early on.   They went away from it in the 2nd half, relying mainly on Duncan's post isolation.

that's because phil changed the way they defended that play. with sasha single-covering manu (and doing a heck of a job with that), the lakes were able to be more aggressive in defending the high p&r. frenchie got confused in the 2nd half on that play, and pau started to be less tentative in stepping up to duncan.

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2.  Odom tried early early on to assert his speed advantage over the Spurs big men, but was unsuccessful.   Oberto and Horry did a good job putting up a brick wall, resulting in numerous missed lay-ups by Odom.

i've been silent on odom, mainly because i find him to be a tease. he's too inconsistent for my taste.

3.  Vujacic is an underrated defender.   He was mainly responsible for limiting Manu Ginobili to 3-13 shooting.  

Manu Ginobili was a none factor in today's game. He was harrassed all game long by the Laker's defense on him. He wasnt able to create and dictate the tempo he wanted. If the Laker continue to shut him down, then the series is over.

manu was shut down by sasha plus the lakers played great team defense...

yeah! sasha was my mvp of the game. his defense enabled the vital adjustments the home team made against that darn high pick-and-roll. it must be said, though, that manu is not 100%; he jammed his ankle against the suns and has been playing hurt. plus, there's a reason pop likes him off the bench -- the energy of el contusión drops off significantly after 30 mins. of p.t.

5.  Kobe Bryant must be aggressive early on.  He doesnt have to dominate in scoring, but he cant do a passive 2 point first half against the Spurs again.   They are too smart and disciplined to let a 20 point lead vanish again.   

agree. mamba has to be more consistent throughout the game. he's courting danger with this switch-on/switch-off approach. of course, when he's on, he's really on.

hey, how about that staples crowd! haven't seen them this energetic since the conference finals against sacto in the three-peat era.

still, i'm not going to count out the spurs, just yet. expect pop to get them to swing the ball around better to get extra space and better perimeter shots, among other adjustments.
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Post by: Munskie on May 23, 2008 at 08:10 AM
i've been silent on odom, mainly because i find him to be a tease. he's too inconsistent for my taste.

Yup.   The Spurs know how to play him.   He was big in the Utah series coz the Utah big men doesnt defend on their feet.   What I do like about him though, is he doesnt settle for jumpers anymore.   

If he doesnt get any tempo offensively in the series, I do expect him to have double digits in rebounding.   I hope yesterday's game will be his weakest one.  Ditto with Fisher, who was 1-9 shooting, mostly on hurried jumpers and horrible fishing expedition on drives.
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Post by: Munskie on May 23, 2008 at 08:19 AM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/chris_mannix/05/22/spurs.lakers/p1.gasol.jpg)
Gasol:  Sa susunod, wag ka mawawala sa first half ah, nahirapan ako eh...
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Post by: dyerds on May 23, 2008 at 08:40 AM

hey, how about that staples crowd! haven't seen them this energetic since the conference finals against sacto in the three-peat era.


Lakers heard a lot of boos in the third when they were down 20.
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Post by: DaSilva on May 23, 2008 at 09:05 AM
about the boos...we hardly heard that before, either!

back to the players:

about fisher, he played mostly good d, but yeah, he has to get going offensively. in terms of on court/off court rating, fisher is +31.5 in the playoffs, highest on the team, bryant is only 2nd at +15.2. fish was -7 yesterday.

and to underscore the gamble that phil made on farmar and vujacic in the second half, those 2 were the lowest so far, a combined  -50.2. yesterday they were the highest, a combined +36.0.

on the spurs side, finley has been the highest at +11.0, ginobili second at +8.3. yesterday they were a combined -40.0. they were clearly off and have to get going soon, for the spurs' sake.




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Post by: bumblebee on May 23, 2008 at 09:13 AM
It also helped that the Spurs collapsed. Very uncharacteristic of the Spurs to give up 20.
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Post by: jiggs84 on May 23, 2008 at 10:26 AM

still posting from yesterday's game?
guess no one interested in the celts-pistons series... ???
game tied 54-54 3Q 8 mins
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Post by: Munskie on May 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Looks like Detroit will tie it up.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 23, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Well no choice for Boston but to win on the road.
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Post by: blackie on May 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM
YEHEHEHEHEHEAH!

DETROIT WINS!  SERIES TIED 1-1! 

Go Bad Boys!!!!

YEAH!!!!!!!!
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Post by: bumblebee on May 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Well no choice for Boston but to win on the road.

Something they have not done in the playoffs.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Something they have not done in the playoffs.

maybe the loss from their home court might push them to get better on the road since they can no longer rely on winning at home to win the east.
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Post by: dyerds on May 23, 2008 at 02:10 PM
maybe the loss from their home court might push them to get better on the road since they can no longer rely on winning at home to win the east.
I agree. They must learn how to win on the road if they want to win the championship.
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Post by: a2 on May 23, 2008 at 05:54 PM
lakers-pistons part 2!! it's time for revenge!! ;D
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Post by: kristerocky on May 23, 2008 at 06:30 PM
I hope Lakers win game 2 tomorrow..
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 23, 2008 at 07:12 PM
The Pistons kept their composure during the end game. They didnt fell apart like they usually did most of the time during playoffs.
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Post by: dyerds on May 23, 2008 at 08:11 PM
I hope Spurs win tomorrow.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 23, 2008 at 11:58 PM
One can only hope  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 24, 2008 at 01:17 AM
One can only hope  ;D ;D ;D
coz there's always hope even if there's no more hope
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Post by: kimpOy on May 24, 2008 at 09:15 AM
LA/SA game 2 http://www.justin.tv/psn_tr3s
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Post by: a2 on May 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM
grabe ang energy ng lakers!!
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Post by: dyerds on May 24, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Talo na naman Spurs ko.  :'(
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Post by: Munskie on May 24, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Talo na naman Spurs ko.  :'(

It aint over till the fat lady sings....  ;)
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Post by: Munskie on May 24, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Popovich has given up with 8 minutes remaining.
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Post by: DaSilva on May 24, 2008 at 11:33 AM
die, san antonio, die!!!
 :)
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Post by: Munskie on May 24, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Lakers up 2-0.

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Post by: Munskie on May 24, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Six Things I Think I Think: Game 2 LA vs San Antonio   

1.  Telling statistic of the game:  Field Goal Percentage, LA shot 54%, San Antonio 35%.    Goes to show that the Lakers are underrated as a defensive team.

2.  While Kobe Bryant played a pedestrian but efficient game (+24, highest for the game), Lamar Odom (20 pts 12 rebs, 4 blks) and Derek Fisher (11 points on 5 shots) were the big contributors, far off from their game 1 showing.  Big Bounce back.

3.  Ginobili again was shut down (7 pts on 2-8 shooting).  This guy is hurting and needs rest.   And it doesnt help when Vujacic is pesky on defense.

4.  The alternate day scheduling favors the younger, fresher Lakers.   The Spurs need more than a day's rest.  They have played more play-off games than the Lakers, and are overall, much older.   It is just coincidence I know, but it doesnt help to debunk any wild conspiracy about a LA-Boston Finals.

5.  Spurs bench were again outplayed by the young Laker bench.  Expect to see some changes this off-season.  Horry and Finley maybe are on their last ride.

6.  With a 0-2 deficit, the Spurs have the ability to bounce back, highlighted by winning their series against the Hornets, after climbing back from the same deficit.

But these Lakers are no Hornets.
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Post by: dobler on May 24, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Six Things I Think I Think: Game 2 LA vs San Antonio   

1.  Telling statistic of the game:  Field Goal Percentage, LA shot 54%, San Antonio 35%.    Goes to show that the Lakers are underrated as a defensive team.

2.  While Kobe Bryant played a pedestrian but efficient game (+24, highest for the game), Lamar Odom (20 pts 12 rebs, 4 blks) and Derek Fisher (11 points on 5 shots) were the big contributors, far off from their game 1 showing.  Big Bounce back.

3.  Ginobili again was shut down (7 pts on 2-8 shooting).  This guy is hurting and needs rest.   And it doesnt help when Vujacic is pesky on defense.

4.  The alternate day scheduling favors the younger, fresher Lakers.   The Spurs need more than a day's rest.  They have played more play-off games than the Lakers, and are overall, much older.   It is just coincidence I know, but it doesnt help to debunk any wild conspiracy about a LA-Boston Finals.

5.  Spurs bench were again outplayed by the young Laker bench.  Expect to see some changes this off-season.  Horry and Finley maybe are on their last ride.

6.  With a 0-2 deficit, the Spurs have the ability to bounce back, highlighted by winning their series against the Hornets, after climbing back from the same deficit.

But these Lakers are no Hornets.

Blowing out the defending champs. It's the kind of win Phil Jackson wants this time of year. Was this a statement game by the Lakers? I say yes...
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM
im thinking it's safe to say the spurs are finished for this season. :-[
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Post by: clea on May 24, 2008 at 01:37 PM
im thinking it's safe to say the spurs are finished for this season. :-[

not really, this was also the case against New Orleans during the last round so anything's still possible...

though I don't really like Spurs brand of basketball  ::)
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Post by: kimpOy on May 24, 2008 at 02:18 PM
stat shows 14 of the 222 teams to lose the first two games have come back to win, including this  Spurs versus the Hornets. so its still not 100% safe he..he




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Post by: JEcHb0Y on May 24, 2008 at 02:20 PM
not really, this was also the case against New Orleans during the last round so anything's still possible...

though I don't really like Spurs brand of basketball  ::)

One can only hope, but how many times have the Spurs done this kind of thing?  Starting big but faltering at the home stretch?  :-\
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 24, 2008 at 02:25 PM
The Spurs also lost the first two games at NO by what.... an average of 22pts.  So it's still premature to say the Spurs are done.  Though I do want the Spurs to be done..hehehe!
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Post by: bumblebee on May 24, 2008 at 03:08 PM
Man, that was the longest 4Q I've ever watched.
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Post by: Munskie on May 24, 2008 at 06:53 PM
I guess if the Spurs come back to win the series, it will be the first time Phil Jackson will lose a series after leading 2-0.

He is 40-0 so far when leading a series by 2-0.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 24, 2008 at 07:51 PM
So its 2-0 for the Lakers. They just pulvurize the Spurs in todays game. Again the LAKERS play as a team. Morale was high again & their confidence greater than ever. Winning game 1 was very significant for the Lakers coz in that game, the Lakers never fell apart even when they're down by 20pts midway in the third quarter. They crawl back together as a team each and everyone contributing in there own special way they didnt loose hope and just continue to play hard. When there efforts showed results, their morale just gets higher and their energy was just relentless. Every Laker (even the 2nd team) was so involved in the game that the Spurs got confused on who to guard since every Laker at that time was so pumped up. The Spurs lost their focus on Bryant thus paving way for the current MVP to do his stuff in strides. The Spurs obviously burned out from the NO series didnt play like defending champions.
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Post by: Battousai on May 24, 2008 at 07:54 PM
It ain't over until one team wins 4 games in this playoffs, so, the Spurs aren't licked....yet. Hehehe.

I never expected Poppovich to pull out his stars with still 8 minutes to go. They could've made a push with that much time, even if it is the 4th Q.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 24, 2008 at 08:05 PM
It ain't over until one team wins 4 games in this playoffs, so, the Spurs aren't licked....yet. Hehehe.

I never expected Poppovich to pull out his stars with still 8 minutes to go. They could've made a push with that much time, even if it is the 4th Q.
Perhaps the strategy was one step backward , two steps forward. It was a lost game no matter how hard the Spurs will play, they just couldn't much the Laker's intensity so Coach Popovich decided to rest his key players (obviously drained from that NO series), let them watch the game on the bench and prepare them for the next battle.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 24, 2008 at 08:08 PM
I kinda understood why he pulled out his starters early.. it was obvious they were tired.. remember, Kobe wasn't even inside the court in the early minutes of the 4th.. even if they tried to mount a comeback, Kobe would just do his thing.. that 9-0 run towards the end of the 2nd quarter really told the story.. the Spurs were just too slow.. Vujacic scored on a jumper and a three during that run and Ginobili just couldn't keep up with him..
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Post by: dyerds on May 24, 2008 at 08:18 PM
Perhaps the strategy was one step backward , two steps forward. It was a lost game no matter how hard the Spurs will play, they just couldn't much the Laker's intensity so Coach Popovich decided to rest his key players (obviously drained from that NO series), let them watch the game on the bench and prepare them for the next battle.

...and hope they win their games at home. This is a very scary situation for the Spurs because they will have to put big effort to win 4 games with only 5 more games remaining  when it seems they are very exhausted right now. I think their energy were drained in their series w/ NO which was very evident particularly in their first game with Lakers and the age factor is creeping them now.  :(
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Post by: Munskie on May 24, 2008 at 08:49 PM
age factor is creeping them now.  :(

Derek Fisher is the only Laker in active rotation that is over 30.   On the other side, Tony Parker is the only Spur in active rotation that is under 30.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 24, 2008 at 09:26 PM
...and hope they win their games at home. This is a very scary situation for the Spurs because they will have to put big effort to win 4 games with only 5 more games remaining  when it seems they are very exhausted right now. I think their energy were drained in their series w/ NO which was very evident particularly in their first game with Lakers and the age factor is creeping them now.  :(
In order for the Spurs to win, Ginobili must play his usual game. He must be able to create for himself offensively. The Lakers have put the clamps on him this past two games.
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Post by: dobler on May 24, 2008 at 09:56 PM
In order for the Spurs to win, Ginobili must play his usual game. He must be able to create for himself offensively. The Lakers have put the clamps on him this past two games.

Injured rin pala si Manu...
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 25, 2008 at 07:52 AM
In order for the Spurs to win, Ginobili must play his usual game. He must be able to create for himself offensively. The Lakers have put the clamps on him this past two games.

Part of this is because of the jammed ankle of Manu. So yung explosiveness wala masyado, parang 1 time lang nangyari yun (he drove and beat Radmanovic and got that 3pt play).

Celtics will really be tested when they go to The Palace for Game 3. I haven't followed the series like the West but this might dictate if we will see a Lakers-Boston finals. Detroit is a very good and experienced team. If they protect their home court this is a done series. So far Celtics havn't show any sign that it can win on the road...and we all know you can't win a chamionship that way.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 25, 2008 at 07:58 AM
So far Celtics havn't show any sign that it can win on the road...and we all know you can't win a chamionship that way.

Technically the Celtics can win a championship even w/o winning a game on the road.  Unfortunately, they lost their last game in Boston.  So throw that notion out the window.
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Post by: kimpOy on May 25, 2008 at 09:18 AM


He is 40-0 so far when leading a series by 2-0.

nice.... that's  a better stat than the 93.5% (14 of 215 team) he..he
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Post by: dyerds on May 25, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Right now Celtics are very impressive in Auburn.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Detroit is making their run now.
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Post by: skylynx888 on May 25, 2008 at 10:40 AM
up 23points, 35 seconds to go in the 3rd, i can smell celtics victory  ;D ;D

celtics - 2
lakers  - 2

4 games to go, dream match na  :D :D
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Post by: Munskie on May 25, 2008 at 11:55 AM
up 23points, 35 seconds to go in the 3rd, i can smell celtics victory  ;D ;D

celtics - 2
lakers  - 2

4 games to go, dream match na  :D :D
yup, it looks good so far.

I expect the Spurs to give it all tomorrow.   Popovich didnt give up so early to rest his starters in game 2 for nothing. 
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 25, 2008 at 01:35 PM
2 more wins for both Lakers & Celtics and all prayers are answered. The much awaited Lakers vs Celtics NBA FINALS.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 25, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Technically the Celtics can win a championship even w/o winning a game on the road.  Unfortunately, they lost their last game in Boston.  So throw that notion out the window.

I agree (technically they can), but winning on the road is all about a team's character.
Good thing with the Celtics is they will have homecourt advantage thoughout the play offs.
I'd say that notion can't be thrown away just like that.

Another win by the Lakers and the Spurs have dug themselves a very big hole that only the Red Sox has climbed out of. Also, anyone who comes out of the east and if the Lakers wins the west it'll be a good series.
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Post by: dyerds on May 25, 2008 at 06:03 PM
I agree (technically they can), but winning on the road is all about a team's character.

I still think that they (Celtics) are lacking on this aspect but this is the time for the big three to prove their crictics wrong. Lalo na si KG.  ;D

Another win by the Lakers and the Spurs have dug themselves a very big hole that only the Red Sox has climbed out of. Also, anyone who comes out of the east and if the Lakers wins the west it'll be a good series.

I agree. It's a do or die game for the Spurs tomorrow.
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 25, 2008 at 06:44 PM
In order for the Spurs to win, Ginobili must play his usual game. He must be able to create for himself offensively. The Lakers have put the clamps on him this past two games.

Based on stats, Ginobili's game dips below his average against the Lakers.  14pt/game lang ata as against his scoring average of 20.  (Not too sure of the numbers though)
But what this means is that the Lakers has at least two things going for them:
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 25, 2008 at 06:55 PM
And oh, Boston in 5!!!

The Celtics woke up just in time... that lost at home really woke them up.. expect them to dominate this Detriot team on the way to a much-coveted Lakers-Celtics Final!!!
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 25, 2008 at 07:14 PM
Based on stats, Ginobili's game dips below his average against the Lakers.  14pt/game lang ata as against his scoring average of 20.  (Not too sure of the numbers though)
But what this means is that the Lakers has at least two things going for them:
  • 1. Kobe is the only player that the Spurs find difficult to stop
  • 2. The Lakers have Ginobili's number

The Lakers won game 1 & 2 not mainly becoz of Bryant but becoz they plays as a team. The Spurs just cant match the intensity being rendered by every Laker that was put into the game. Of course Ginobili's sub par performance in both games tells it all. The results of game 1 could have gone either way and game 2 wouldn't have been a blowout had the Spurs win game 1. Well if the Spurs can't win game 3 then the series is over.
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 25, 2008 at 07:45 PM
The Lakers won game 1 & 2 not mainly becoz of Bryant but becoz they plays as a team. The Spurs just cant match the intensity being rendered by every Laker that was put into the game. Of course Ginobili's sub par performance in both games tells it all. The results of game 1 could have gone either way and game 2 wouldn't have been a blowout had the Spurs win game 1. Well if the Spurs can't win game 3 then the series is over.

Kobe carried the Lakers in Game 1!  If SA was just able to stop him it would have been 1-1.  For Game 2, it was Lamar and Fish who made the big difference.

As for Manu, does it need to be called sub-par performance when historically it looks like the Lakers have got his number? (One of these days I'll dig those darn stats  :))
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Post by: Munskie on May 25, 2008 at 09:29 PM
The results of game 1 could have gone either way and game 2 wouldn't have been a blowout had the Spurs win game 1.
how can you tell that game 2 wouldnt have been a blownout game had Spurs won game 1?  ;)
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Post by: Wiggum on May 25, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Just saw C/S Sports' ad - Game 4 of the Boston-Detroit series will also be shown live on free TV Tuesday morning.  Ayos!  Looks like we can expect continuing/daily live telecasts of the Conference Finals this week until early next week on C/S Sports (if both match-ups last that long  ::)).
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 26, 2008 at 05:59 AM
how can you tell that game 2 wouldnt have been a blownout game had Spurs won game 1?  ;)
becoz of the morale factor.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 26, 2008 at 08:27 AM
becoz of the morale factor.

I remember the Sixers won game 1 but the Pistons who had home court still blew out the Sixers in game 2.
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Post by: Munskie on May 26, 2008 at 09:04 AM
Manu is fresher tonight. 
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Post by: Munskie on May 26, 2008 at 09:06 AM
(http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0523/nba_g_lakers_412.jpg)

Euro Lakers

(Kobe lived in Italy for a while)
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Post by: dyerds on May 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Manu is fresher tonight. 

Now I believe na "homecourt-homecourt" lang yan.  ;D
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Post by: RNIverson on May 26, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Kobe's jacking up 3s in the 4th  :-\  Although still impressive at 4-9
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 26, 2008 at 11:08 AM
spurs win!!  abangan susunod na kabanata!!
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Post by: Munskie on May 26, 2008 at 11:12 AM
2-1 na.   

Bounce back game for all of the Spurs, which was I expected (but praying it wont happen).   Great game for them.


I do expect PhilJax to make the necessary defensive adjustments for the Lakers.   


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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 26, 2008 at 11:28 AM
There was a definite extra bounce in the steps of the Spurs.
Manu was defenitely his usual getting 4 treys in the 1st half.

I'd say that the Spurs still have their backs against the wall in game 4.
If they don't come up with a win, the Lakers can close it out at home (where are the Spurs have been atrocious).

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Post by: kristerocky on May 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Talo Lakers.. :( :-\ Oh well..
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Post by: Munskie on May 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Talo Lakers.. :( :-\ Oh well..

Its rather expected.  The Spurs are still the defending champs.   They jumped over the possible 3-0 hole.   Im expecting to see a more tight game 4.  If it goes 2-2, pressure will be on the young Lakers to win game 5 at home.

Game 4 will be on Wednesday, 9am local time.
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Post by: dyerds on May 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM
I expect Spurs to win game 4 because if they don't the series is definitely over. There is really something about the homecourt this playoffs.  ;D Biglang lumakas si Ginobili nung napunta na sa San Antonio and everybody from their team is shooting the basket well especially Barry who is virtually non-existent in Games 1 and 2.  :D
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Post by: Munskie on May 26, 2008 at 12:57 PM
There was a definite extra bounce in the steps of the Spurs.
Manu was defenitely his usual getting 4 treys in the 1st half.

I'd say that the Spurs still have their backs against the wall in game 4.
If they don't come up with a win, the Lakers can close it out at home (where are the Spurs have been atrocious).



Yeah, they played like a defending champ should.   Getting those early blows, but getting back up to punch some of its own.   They may be called floppers, but Pop has taught them how not to make excuses.   Ginobili never made an excuse for his game 1 and 2 blunders.   

Its a refreshing trend, unlike the Big Cactus from Arizona, who always find an excuse for every loss his team takes.

Classic Line: "we just need more time to blend together".   He said that from the time he got traded from up to they were ousted by the Spurs.
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Post by: Munskie on May 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I expect Spurs to win game 4 because if they don't the series is definitely over. There is really something about the homecourt this playoffs.  ;D Biglang lumakas si Ginobili nung napunta na sa San Antonio and everybody from their team is shooting the basket well especially Barry who is virtually non-existent in Games 1 and 2.  :D
I heard they didnt practice and just had team meetings.   I think that helped too. 
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 26, 2008 at 02:25 PM
The Spurs are after all 4-time champs.  They are not just going to roll over to the Lakers.
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Post by: Munskie on May 26, 2008 at 03:14 PM
If Lakers win game 4, Spurs are on a hole.

If Spurs win game 4, they have slight momentum.

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Post by: Munskie on May 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM

2-2 na sa EAST!!
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Post by: Wiggum on May 27, 2008 at 11:38 AM
^ Yeah!  Detroit got a big lift from McDyess and Maxiell - Joe Dumars really makes excellent picks.  Game 5 should be a classic! 

I hope the other series out West will have a 3-1 count tomorrow, instead of 2-2.  :)
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Post by: kristerocky on May 27, 2008 at 01:04 PM
I hope will win it tomorrow. They cannot afford to let the Spurs tie the series.
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Post by: blackie on May 27, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Let's Go DETROIT! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 27, 2008 at 07:18 PM
Let's Go DETROIT! ;D ;D ;D
Do you think both series will go full length? Whats your fearless forecast?
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Post by: bumblebee on May 27, 2008 at 07:25 PM
Let the East finish ASAP and the West go to Game 7.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 27, 2008 at 07:30 PM
Let the East finish ASAP and the West go to Game 7.
Which team for the East? and which for the West?
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 27, 2008 at 08:01 PM
wouldnt it be funny if things turned out to a celtics-spurs or a lakers-pistons match up?  a lot will be definitely pissed off no?
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 27, 2008 at 08:18 PM
wouldnt it be funny if things turned out to a celtics-spurs or a lakers-pistons match up?  a lot will be definitely pissed off no?
Everyone's praying for a LA vs BOSTON Nba Finale.
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 27, 2008 at 08:25 PM
my point exactly.  everyone is so gung ho to see a la/boston matchup that to think that it'll go otherwise is unacceptable.  the thing is, there is still that possiblity that we'll get the otherwise.

bottom line:  it aint over til its over!
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 27, 2008 at 08:30 PM
my point exactly.  everyone is so gung ho to see a la/boston matchup that to think that it'll go otherwise is unacceptable.  the thing is, there is still that possiblity that we'll get the otherwise.

bottom line:  it aint over til its over!

Many will consider it to be a dream come true w/ the Lakers Celtics finale yet many will also be disappointed when it turns otherwise. So near yet so far. . .
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 27, 2008 at 08:39 PM
the foremost of which will definitely be nba head honcho david stern! 
                                                 ;)
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 27, 2008 at 08:55 PM
the foremost of which will definitely be nba head honcho david stern! 
                                                 ;)
parang Ateneo vs La salle yan pagnatuloy he he
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 27, 2008 at 09:43 PM
As for me, as long as it's not a Spurs-Pistons matchup...

But, of course, a Lakers-Celtics Finals would definitely rock!!!
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Post by: Munskie on May 27, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Spurs-Pistons??

I wont be dissapointed.   Extra sleep is always good!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 27, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Spurs-Pistons??

I wont be dissapointed.   Extra sleep is always good!!!  ;D ;D ;D
he he but of course Lakers vs Celtics will keep you alive and kicking!!! Niot only you pala but the whole world!
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Post by: dyerds on May 27, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Spurs-Pistons??

I wont be dissapointed.   Extra sleep is always good!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Not for us Spurs fans eventhough I would prefer a Celtics-Spurs or Celtics-Lakers in the finals.
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Putsa...akala ko tapos na.... ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Putsa...akala ko tapos na.... ;D ;D



Walang foul??????


Buti na lang!!  ;D ;D


3-1 na!!!


The Champs are on the ropes.





Me galit pa si Joey Crawford sa Spurs??
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Post by: dyerds on May 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM
I didn't see the last play. I turned off my tv after a 7-pt lead from the Lakers with less than a minute to go but it seems there is a controversy regarding that play.  ??? Wala bang video ng last play diyan?
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM
I didn't see the last play. I turned off my tv after a 7-pt lead from the Lakers with less than a minute to go but it seems there is a controversy regarding that play.  ??? Wala bang video ng last play diyan?

Contested play.  2.1 seconds, Spurs ball down by two.   

Barry got the ball at the top of the key, 3-5ft beyond the 3point line.  He faked the shot, got bumped by Fisher.  No call.


It will be talked a lot.  ;)
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Post by: Battousai on May 28, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Breaks. Of. The. Game.


No time to be complacent for the LAkers coz it takes 4 to move on. They have to take care of business at home and hope the Spurs choke under the 3-1 pressure.
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Post by: dyerds on May 28, 2008 at 12:21 PM
There will be much talk about that play especially when the lead ref of that game was Joey Crawford who was suspended last year I think for the rest of the season after a controversial call that he made which threw Timmy out of the game. Hmmmm...
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM
the referees were just being consistent... on making bad calls, that is.. too bad the Spurs were at the receiving end of that last one.. LA has to win big in game 5..
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I agree with Battousai....


Breaks of the game na lang yan.   


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Post by: dyerds on May 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I agree on that but in a crucial game and a crucial play that is unforgivable. Well...wala na rin magagawa series is 3-1 na. Hats off on the Lakers because they played a good defence all throughout the game. Now Spurs needs to think of getting young reinforcement next year to battle it out with the younger teams.  :'( Series is almost over. Bawi na lang tayo next year.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM
n retrospect,

1.   Where's Manu??  Bounce Back game uli sya.  But this time in a bad way.  6 points on 2-8 shooting.   He is fortunate Barry filled up the void, saving his ass.

2.  The Spurs is really doing a good job keeping Kobe out of the FT line.   He didnt attempted any freethrows in game 4.   Only 6 FT attempts the whole series.   That is pretty unbelievable.

3.  Tim Duncan got tired in the 4th quarter.   Popovich has no choice but to leave him there.  Manu may been their team's best player whole season, but Duncan is still their pillar of strength.

4.  Odom kept his promise to play a better game.   His 8 4th quarter points were crucial in giving the Lakers a sizeable lead in a close game.

5.  Wondering there was no foul in that last play?   It really doesnt help debunk that conspiracy for a dream series most of the fans want.





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Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I agree on Kobe's free throw attempts.. Bowen's doing a good job keeping in step with him.. good thing though, Kobe is hitting his jumpers.. but he has to take it inside more just like he did in the 2nd half of game 1.. they can't win if he just takes jumpers all game long..
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 28, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Barry should have just gone up for the shot.  Refs rarely make a call to decide the game or save a player's butt.
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Post by: dyerds on May 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM
n retrospect,

1.   Where's Manu??  Bounce Back game uli sya.  But this time in a bad way.  6 points on 2-8 shooting.   He is fortunate Barry filled up the void, saving his ass.

2.  The Spurs is really doing a good job keeping Kobe out of the FT line.   He didnt attempted any freethrows in game 4.   Only 6 FT attempts the whole series.   That is pretty unbelievable.

3.  Tim Duncan got tired in the 4th quarter.   Popovich has no choice but to leave him there.  Manu may been their team's best player whole season, but Duncan is still their pillar of strength.

4.  Odom kept his promise to play a better game.   His 8 4th quarter points were crucial in giving the Lakers a sizeable lead in a close game.

5.  Wondering there was no foul in that last play?   It really doesnt help debunk that conspiracy for a dream series most of the fans want.


1. I think he's really injured today but that is not an excuse.

2. At the start of this series, I thought that Bowen cannot stop Kobe but with  what I've seen Kobe is really having a hard time with his defence. He became a jump shooter in this series that is why he don't have many FT attempts.  

3. It's a crucial game for the Spurs that is why Pop gambled of putting Duncan in the game overtime. He has no choice because Lakers is playing well and only Barry and Duncan are doing a great job on the offensive end.

4.He is an inconsistent player. You really don't know when he is going to play well.

5. Break of the game.
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 01:03 PM
With that,

I expect the Lakers to close out the series in game 5.

1.  Spurs will be the more tired team.    Duncan and Parker played 45 and 42 minutes in a hard-fought game 4.

2.   Game 5 will be in Staples, and the Lakers obviously dont want to go back in San Antonio.

3.  The Lakers didnt play game 4 the way they wanted too.   But they had better pacing in the game, so they will be fresher coming to game 5.   The morale boost of winning a hard fought game will also add to their confidence.



Disclaimer though,  the Spurs are still the defending Champs.   They are maybe on the ropes, but ala Rocky Balboa, they will fight to the end.   And this Lakers surrendered the same lead to Phoenix two years ago, although it is not the same team.
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Post by: a2 on May 28, 2008 at 01:06 PM
popovich, barry and duncan admitted that it was the right call.

pop: "If I was the official I wouldn’t have called that a foul.”
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Post by: Battousai on May 28, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Bowen's still purposely extending his leg whenever he defends anyone. Just watch him defend Kobe in the series and when Kobe pulls for a J, Bruce Lee's leg finds it way to where Kobe's feet should land. That's an excellent way to break someone's ankle(s). I hope Kobe lands his feet on Bowen's knees if he doesn't stop doing that.
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Post by: Brian_mico on May 28, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Bowen's still purposely extending his leg whenever he defends anyone. Just watch him defend Kobe in the series and when Kobe pulls for a J, Bruce Lee's leg finds it way to where Kobe's feet should land. That's an excellent way to break someone's ankle(s). I hope Kobe lands his feet on Bowen's knees if he doesn't stop doing that.

this is one of the reason why I don't like Spurs >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 28, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Not really a disappointing playoffs for the Spurs.  It's almost a given that they don't defend their title or repeat as champs.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 28, 2008 at 02:18 PM
they just had a tougher road than the lakers did.. phoenix agad sila sa 1st round tapos 7 games against a younger and quicker hornets..
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 03:52 PM
popovich, barry and duncan admitted that it was the right call.

pop: "If I was the official I wouldn’t have called that a foul.”

they knew that they also had a break....the fisher shot grazed the rim before hitting Horry's leg then going out of bounds.   The shot clock should have been reset.



Quote of the Night:

Brent Barry, asked to comment on how he felt playing a huge game despite the loss:

"Its like putting whipped cream on sh*t!!"
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 05:20 PM
the disputed non-call

(http://i32.tinypic.com/8vvq4m.jpg)

Your call.   Looks like a travel too (different pivot foot).
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Post by: bumblebee on May 28, 2008 at 05:31 PM
I agree w/ travelling but that would too close to call.

I didn't watch but were the Lakers in penalty then?
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Post by: Munskie on May 28, 2008 at 05:37 PM
I agree w/ travelling but that would too close to call.

I didn't watch but were the Lakers in penalty then?
yes.  too close.

Yes, the Lakers were in the Penalty.  If called, 2 FTs to tie.
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Post by: bumblebee on May 28, 2008 at 05:47 PM
yes.  too close.

Yes, the Lakers were in the Penalty.  If called, 2 FTs to tie.

The none call is good. Barry should have taken the shot.
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Post by: DaSilva on May 28, 2008 at 06:40 PM
good of the spurs not to contest the call. the contact didn't alter barry's shot. anyway if they did complain that would be kinda hypocritical, considering that bowen deliberately fouled lebron in game 3 of the finals last year in a similar situation, and got away with a non-call.

and, yes, they lost the game way before that. more than any other factor, i think the lakers' defense does not get enough credit. the spurs are the best in the league at swinging the ball around the perimeter, and the lakers' rotations are unbelievably quick enough to recover. (manu not being himself makes it slightly easier, but does not take away from the lakers' outstanding defense.)

on the negative side, that was bad game management by kobe and co. at the end of the game. rushing shots, not setting up plays well, etc. they can't give the defending champs any room in the next game.
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Post by: Wiggum on May 28, 2008 at 07:54 PM
^ I agree.  The Spurs have no one to blame (certainly not the refs) but themselves for that loss.  They should have played well enough not to be placed in such a situation.  Good thing Barry didn't pull off an acting job on that play and exaggerated the *impact* of Fisher's move.

I hope LA closes this out on Friday and won't disappoint the way they did in 2006 against the Suns after leading 3-1 in that series (esp. with home court advantage this time around).  Time for the kill...
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 28, 2008 at 09:45 PM
Agree...good non-call. I think Barry was the one who said, after the game, that it was the right call. In a regular season game it might have been called but not in the playoffs.

Spurs are really trying to have someone else beat them instead of Kobe. Bowen does a good job (decent to be exact) of covering Kobe but the other Spurs also help out to make sure that the ball comes out of Kobe's hands.

Manu was due to have a game like the one in game 3. The more interesting question is if he can be consistent in the playoffs with that kind of play. He can do it, we've seen it in the regular season, but it has been absent in this Lakers series. All might be too late.

Overall I think it's the bench factor that gives the Lakers an upper hand. When Vujacic, Walton, Turiaf and Farmar enters the game they are able to maintain the level of the starter's game (more often it's probably a notch lower than the starters). The Spurs on the other hand have no bench to match the Lakers:
Horry -- too old (I think he's 0-9 in the series)
Vaughn -- not a threat (we've seen this in other series)
Finley/Manu -- inconsistent
Udoka -- the only bench player to provide some consistent scoring (but not that much)
Barry -- aside from Game 4, nothing much really.
Title: Re: NBA 2007-2008 Season on BTV/ESPN/STAR--Play-offs na!!
Post by: skylynx888 on May 29, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Hope the Celtics can maintain the lead till end game..... dream matchup is about to become a reality  ;D ;D

so far....

Lakers - 3
Celtics - 2

3 more wins to go  ;)

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Post by: Munskie on May 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM
The Spurs on the other hand have no bench to match the Lakers:
Horry -- too old (I think he's 0-9 in the series)
Vaughn -- not a threat (we've seen this in other series)
Finley/Manu -- inconsistent
Udoka -- the only bench player to provide some consistent scoring (but not that much)
Barry -- aside from Game 4, nothing much really.

Actually listened to the Dan Patrick show, and this was being discussed.  If the Spurs win, they are experienced and battle-tested.  If they lose, they are old.  Dan was confused.

My take:   The Spurs basic core aint old.  Manu, Parker and Duncan are in their prime.   Their bench is, but they dont play too significant minutes anyway.   

Mychal Thompson, the ex-Laker, said it best.   If the Lakers were to win the series, it simply means one thing, the Lakers are the better team.   
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Post by: Munskie on May 29, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Hope the Celtics can maintain the lead till end game..... dream matchup is about to become a reality  ;D ;D

so far....

Lakers - 3
Celtics - 2

3 more wins to go  ;)



Man, Im an NBA fan who was enticed because of the Lakers-Celtics battles in the 80s.

Expect to see some appearances from retired players from both teams.......they'll be around pre-game shows I bet.  ;)



If both teams take care of their business.
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Post by: skylynx888 on May 29, 2008 at 11:53 AM
its THRILLA in BOSTON!!!!!!

Celtics - 3
Lakers - 3

2 MORE WINS TO GO!!!!!

Jabbar - Worthy - Scott - Magic - Cooper
Parish - Johnson - Bird - Mchale - Ainge




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Post by: a2 on May 29, 2008 at 12:08 PM
sana hindi masayang to. ;D

(http://nba.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p4816544dt.jpg)

let's go lakers!! close it out tomorrow!!
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Post by: DaSilva on May 29, 2008 at 12:13 PM
good return to form and a big jumper at the end for jesus shuttlesworth. i've been among those who have been on his case, so good for him to show up. wonder if he can do that each game though. i've been a non-fan since his non-appearance in a big game back in college, where iverson and georgetown kicked his uconn team's butt.

but just like yesterday with the lakes, the celts showed shaky poise in the last minute. anyway, one more win for each before the big reunion.

bro a2 - nice shirt, but i'll hold out for the final design  ;)
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 29, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Both Lakers and Celtics are one win away from the Dream NBA Finals. This will certainly be one of the most exciting NBA Finals in history.
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Post by: DaSilva on May 30, 2008 at 06:30 AM
a comment about commentators while we're waiting for the game, and before collins becomes the bulls coach.

for me, the team at the bottom is the abc team. just a lot of hype and hot air, and they're too personality-oriented, commenting on players constantly like they were either heroes or villains. mark jackson is especially bad. jeff van gundy can provide some insights, but too often he gets caught up bitching about referees' calls. wish he would comment more about defense, about which he's supposed to be a genius of sorts.

collins is sober, insightful, informative. he has calmed down from previous seasons where he got too hype-ful.

best of all for me is doris burke. at first, the chauvinist pig in me said, "what, a female commentator?" but she is filled with insight and information. hardly a wasted word.

of course, malapit na finals. quinito and chino are coming soon!


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Post by: steelcrazy on May 30, 2008 at 06:37 AM
Game 5 in LA the Lakers must finish the series tonight to avoid goin back to San Antonio and have the Spurs play like defending champions again. Its gona be the Spur's last stand so i expect them to give it all tonight to extend the series and be back at San Antonio and try to force a Game 7 by w/c they will have the edge in terms of experience even if the Lakers will have homecourt advantage.
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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 08:05 AM
This is the day....this is the day....  ;D ;D ;D




to be continued....  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 30, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Not a good sign for the Lakers...Kobe shooting too much in the 1st.
I like it better when he's aggressive but looking for teammates.
It builds the confidence of the other Lakers.

Oh and Finley is making it hard for the Lakers right now.
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Post by: sardaukar on May 30, 2008 at 09:38 AM
The NBA plans to impose fines for flopping next season. It's a step in the right direction but what good is a fine to these people who make 50 to 100 thousand dollars or more per game. There should be in game penalties like football where you can get carded. Or make it a technical. Free throws; 2 and you're ejected; 15 per season and you're suspended.
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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 09:43 AM
Not a good sign for the Lakers...Kobe shooting too much in the 1st.
I like it better when he's aggressive but looking for teammates.
It builds the confidence of the other Lakers.

Oh and Finley is making it hard for the Lakers right now.
They are tentative......its pressure, coz everyone expects them to close it out.  And now, they are in an early hole.

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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 10:18 AM
I think Fisher should know he is better at making jumpshots than driving the lane.... ;)


11-2 run to end the half.   6 point deficit.  Ok pa.  ;)
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Post by: dyerds on May 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Buhay pa kahit konti Spurs. I hope the series go back to San Antonio but it looks like a reminiscent of Game 1.
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 30, 2008 at 10:46 AM
not keeping my hopes up.  typical spurs play.  start strong. sputtering end play.  as far as im concerned, lakers has got the western title bagged.
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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Doug Collins trying to cheer the Spurs up.  Hes hoping to extend his stay as commentator, much less pressure than being a coach.  ;D ;D


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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Unstoppable!!!!
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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 11:45 AM
The Jello's jiggling in the REF!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D



Its your turn Boston Celtics!!!
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: dyerds on May 30, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Well...there it is...Lakers is going to the Finals.  :'(

 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: DaSilva on May 30, 2008 at 11:46 AM
die, san antonio, die!!!
 :)


dead!
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 30, 2008 at 11:47 AM
30 secs to go and the Spurs will do what is expected of them..not repeat.   :D
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Post by: Marl☆1 on May 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Wow, superb news - Go LAKERS!  ;)  May replay ba yan mga kasama?
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Vujacic shouldnt have shot that last second shot....ethics yan sa NBA.  He should have dribbled it away.  Oh well, super excited yung bata.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 30, 2008 at 11:56 AM
I'm sure Vujacic didn't mean anything.  Excited lang talaga.

Hey I just saw Bynum in the background...he's gotten fat during his injury.
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 30, 2008 at 12:00 PM
in light of this development, CELTICS na lang ako!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: a2 on May 30, 2008 at 12:01 PM
present si bynum. ;D si the machine loko tumira pa ng tres sa huli, masyadong na excite. nagalit tuloy si finley. hehe

pistons, it's your turn!! :P
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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Well deserved commendation for GM Mitch Kupchak by Laker Legend Jerry West.


This is still a dream coming true for us Laker fans.   We really had no expectation going to the season.  The offseason was such a mess that theres no way to go but up.

They are not done yet, but Ill be very happy with it already.  Bonus na lang ang Championship.



Taas ni Kupchak no?   Ex-Laker din sya, a PF at 6'9".
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Post by: DaSilva on May 30, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Bonus na lang ang Championship.

ayoko  :)

not even the championship this year would satisfy me. i won't be happy till they get the back-to-back next year, with bynum coming back to push odom to his normal position at sf, ariza giving kobe backup minutes, vlade off the bench to join farmar, vujacic, walton, and turiaf. they'll tear up the league.

yeah i'm greedy. champions now, back-to-back champions next year.  :) :)

then bron can start his dynasty, hehe.  ;D
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 30, 2008 at 12:13 PM
ayoko  :)

not even the championship this year would satisfy me. i won't be happy till they get the back-to-back next year, with bynum coming back to push odom to his normal position at sf, ariza giving kobe backup minutes, vlade off the bench to join farmar, vujacic, walton, and turiaf. they'll tear up the league.

yeah i'm greedy. champions now, back-to-back champions next year.  :) :)

then bron can start his dynasty, hehe.  ;D

How can the Lakers win back to back titles if Boston wins this year?   :D  Boston na muna this year.  The Lakers are young.  They can go for a three-peat again in the coming years.
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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 12:14 PM
ayoko  :)

not even the championship this year would satisfy me. i won't be happy till they get the back-to-back next year, with bynum coming back to push odom to his normal position at sf, ariza giving kobe backup minutes, vlade off the bench to join farmar, vujacic, walton, and turiaf. they'll tear up the league.

yeah i'm greedy. champions now, back-to-back champions next year.  :) :)

then bron can start his dynasty, hehe.  ;D

Low expectations, no heartbreak.  ;D ;D

shoutout lang.......


We are back in the Finals!!!



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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Probable Dream Season for Kobe Bryant

1.   NBA Regular Season MVP
2.  NBA Champion
3.  NBA Finals MVP
4.  Olympic Gold Medalist



Last player to do it?


Michael Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Six Things I Think I Think:  Game 5 Lakers vs Spurs

1.  Staples homecrowd chanting MVP.   Now they have valid reason to cheer it next time, this time for Finals MVP.   Kobe validated his MVP status, pumping 17 4th quarter points.  Almost all of them keeping the Spurs at bay.

2.  Jordan Farmar exemplified the vast improvement of the young Laker bench.   He sparked the Laker comeback.

3.  Game 5 is kinda reminiscent of Game 1.   The 20 and 17 point lead in both games didnt feel insurmountable.   

4.  Another huge performance by Duncan in a losing cause, a triple double at 19pts, 15 rebs, 10 ast.   He averaged 22 pts and 17 rebs in the series.  Those are huge numbers, and are made ordinary just because he is Duncan.

5.  As effective as the core trio of Duncan, Manu and Parker, the Spurs need frontcourt help.   Their draft pick Tiago Splitter can be a project, but Tau Ceramica may keep him coz of more Euros.   Tsk tsk...they shouldnt have let go of Scola.

6.  The Spurs and the Lakers should be the blueprint on how to run a successful franchise.  The Lakers are back in the Finals, after only three mediocre seasons, and have totally rebuild their roster.   Let us see how the Spurs will rebuild their bench.

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Post by: john5479 on May 30, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Hope kobe doesn't exert himself too much in the finals, he will still play in the Olympics  ;D Lets see if the celtics can close out the series against detroit, looks like rip is injured.
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Post by: Wiggum on May 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/WestChamps1.jpg)

Congrats to the LA LAKERS!!!

I really like LA's chances going into the Finals, whether it's going to be Boston or Detroit.  And I think being the road team will work in their favor.  Kobe's on a mission!  

To be continued...   :)
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Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Hope kobe doesn't exert himself too much in the finals, he will still play in the Olympics  ;D
OK lang...marami naman sya maasahan sa Team USA.  ;) ;)
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Post by: Battousai on May 30, 2008 at 05:03 PM
Really didn't like the fact that Sasha still went for a shot at the end and the way the Los Angeles crowd booed the Spurs when The Logo asked them to give the Spurs a big hand for an excellent series.
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Munskie on May 30, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Really didn't like the fact that Sasha still went for a shot at the end and the way the Los Angeles crowd booed the Spurs when The Logo asked them to give the Spurs a big hand for an excellent series.

Sasha is the machine, he wasnt thinking.  ;D ;D

Some said it was for the fans, as there is always free tacos if the Lakers reach 100.

Kidding aside though, it was indeed wrong for Sasha to rub it in.   I read he was reminded of it in the locker room.  It was a mental mistake.

As for the Laker fans in Staples, it aint a class act indeed.   Oh well, thats why theres a lot of Laker Haters too.   They are everywhere.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 30, 2008 at 06:36 PM
The Lakers have done their job now its up to the Celtics to fulfill their destiny by winning Game 6 against Detroit thus making a dream come true for all NBA fans all over the world.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on May 30, 2008 at 08:06 PM
Hope kobe doesn't exert himself too much in the finals, he will still play in the Olympics

1. Very unlikely. Remember everyone is playing for this, if you reach that point and cruise because of an event a few months ahead that's jsut insane. Also, Kobe is known for being very competitive taht's why you can expect 110% every finals game. Lastly, he's trying to prove something (MVP was deserved and he can win it without Shaq) so he'll go all out.

2. Sasha was just not thinking but it was still wrong...that was disrespectful.

3. I like Detroit in the East but with Rip and Mr. Big Shot hurt it'll be an unfair Finals series. So an 80s Finals will be more entertaining.

4. Lakers are going to be fine for the next 3-4 years (if they stay intact). 1st and 2nd group (especially) are really proving to be very formidable. The major obstacle will be free agency.

5. Lastly, MVP voters did not go wrong with Kobe. He showed why he is on top of the NBA right now. Taking over a close-out game during this point of the season. Very MVP-esque indeed.

Who do you think will guard Kobe in a Boston-Lakers finals...Posey and Pierce?

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Post by: synchro_01 on May 30, 2008 at 08:52 PM
both Detroit and Boston played the Lakers during the regular season prior to the arrival of Gasol. They are in for big surprise this time around. The Lakers will be even more formidable next year with the arrival of a healthy Bynum and Ariza to boot. The only problem that they have would be that both Turiaf and Vujacic are both on the free agent list after this season and a lot of teams are keeping an eye on those two. Those teams might just offer big bucks to those two that the Lakers cant match due to their gigantic payroll.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 30, 2008 at 08:58 PM
both Detroit and Boston played the Lakers during the regular season prior to the arrival of Gasol. They are in for big surprise this time around. The Lakers will be even more formidable next year with the arrival of a healthy Bynum and Ariza to boot. The only problem that they have would be that both Turiaf and Vujacic are both on the free agent list after this season and a lot of teams are keeping an eye on those two. Those teams might just offer big bucks to those two that the Lakers cant match due to their gigantic payroll.
I think they will both stay w/ the lakers for a chance to defend their crown should they win this year and if not, i think they will still be around for another chance to win a title.
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Post by: sov19 on May 31, 2008 at 02:21 AM
It seems that the barometer for the spurs is manu ginobili, if you check the stats, whenever he's playing well the spurs are tough to beat, unfortunately for the spurs manu struggled in this series. 1 good game(game3 with 30pts) = 1win for the spurs. Lakers vs Celtics finals would be interesting..
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 31, 2008 at 06:07 AM
It seems that the barometer for the spurs is manu ginobili, if you check the stats, whenever he's playing well the spurs are tough to beat, unfortunately for the spurs manu struggled in this series. 1 good game(game3 with 30pts) = 1win for the spurs. Lakers vs Celtics finals would be interesting..
Lakers vs Celtics is the match up evryone's praying for. I hope the Celtics will end their series against Detroit today so the casts for the NBA finals will be complete.
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Post by: skylynx888 on May 31, 2008 at 11:13 AM
GO BOSTON!!! GO CELTICS!!!! 2 minutes na lang!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on May 31, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Feels like Im a 12 year old NBA fan again.....


Let's bring it on!!!

Los Angeles Lakers vs Boston Celtics!!!!


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Post by: dyerds on May 31, 2008 at 11:19 AM
It looks like a Lakers-Celtics series.
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Post by: Munskie on May 31, 2008 at 11:23 AM
David Stern and most of the fans got their wish!!!
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Post by: skylynx888 on May 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM
89 - 81  ;D ;D

Finally, the BOSTON CELTICS  - L.A. LAKERS HAVE COMEBACK TO THE NBA FINALS!!!!


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Post by: a2 on May 31, 2008 at 11:52 AM
the rivalry is back!! lakers in 5!! ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on May 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/KB24KG08-1.jpg)

'Nuff said.  :)  It's all going to boil down to who wants it more.  Go LA!!!       

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Post by: clea on May 31, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Really didn't like the fact that Sasha still went for a shot at the end and the way the Los Angeles crowd booed the Spurs when The Logo asked them to give the Spurs a big hand for an excellent series.

Hahaha plenty of people who bet on games were angered by this shot as the spread was 8 pts  ;D
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Post by: dobler on May 31, 2008 at 02:12 PM
ESPN Page 2's Bill Simmons on Lakers Celtics finals matchup:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080530
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Post by: john5479 on May 31, 2008 at 02:19 PM
Lakers Vs. Celtics, David Stern should be very happy ;D
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Post by: kimpOy on May 31, 2008 at 03:16 PM
ESPN Page 2's Bill Simmons on Lakers Celtics finals matchup:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080530

BS is a solid Boston Fan...he's just jinx-ing it he..

basketball fans around the world are blessed with the dream matchup...lets get it on!
go Lakers! woohoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7r6vXeOfyQ
a refresher lang he..he rambis vs mchale
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Post by: dobler on May 31, 2008 at 05:30 PM
All ESPN NBA analysts pick the Lakers to win. Hehe
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 31, 2008 at 08:32 PM
Both the LAKERS and CELTICS have fulfilled their destiny now its FACE OFF time for both teams. WHO WILL BE THE 2007-2008 NBA CHAMPS? Will Kobe win his first title w/o SHAQ and also be crowned Finals MVP? Will Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen get their first taste of an NBA Championship Ring. The excitements awaits.
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 03, 2008 at 02:39 PM
i'd rather have garnett, pierce and allen (who's due one!) get their rings than have kobe win yet another one.  make no mistake, he IS good, kaso nakaka turn off yabang nya e.
that's just me.  :-\
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 03, 2008 at 02:55 PM
4-1 for the Lakers. This is their time.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 03, 2008 at 03:16 PM
make no mistake, he IS good, kaso nakaka turn off yabang nya e.
that's just me.  :-\

A very good article on why Kobe irks some, err..many people...

Kobe's well-honed Killer Instinct (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/chris_ballard/05/27/kobe0602/index.html)





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Post by: dyerds on Jun 03, 2008 at 03:33 PM
i'd rather have garnett, pierce and allen (who's due one!) get their rings than have kobe win yet another one.  make no mistake, he IS good, kaso nakaka turn off yabang nya e.
that's just me.  :-\

That is why I don't like him too as a player. He kinda mellowed down this past few seasons though, maybe because of maturity. Well I think this is his moment. No more MJ, he's in his prime and in the Finals and best of all no more Shaq in his team. 
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Post by: patupup on Jun 03, 2008 at 03:48 PM
i'd rather have garnett, pierce and allen (who's due one!) get their rings than have kobe win yet another one.  make no mistake, he IS good, kaso nakaka turn off yabang nya e.
that's just me.  :-\
same here, di ko gusto angas ni bryant....

am a magic/jabbar laker fan, but this time am rooting for the CELTICS.

Boston in 5 or 7 games.... ;)
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Post by: -sniper- on Jun 03, 2008 at 03:53 PM
i'd rather have garnett, pierce and allen (who's due one!) get their rings than have kobe win yet another one.  make no mistake, he IS good, kaso nakaka turn off yabang nya e.
that's just me.  :-\


i agree with you on that.

i like phil jackson, BUT kobe off-sets my liking for phil to a great extent. just a personal opinion, and i do not mean to offend kobe fans out there.

a team with team players is better than a one-man team.

BOSTON in six. :)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 03, 2008 at 03:55 PM
...
a team with team players is better than a one-man team.
...

But the Lakers is not a one-man team anymore.
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 03, 2008 at 05:38 PM
^^ That's Kobe the MVP for you - either you like him or hate him.  :)  Even the behavior of KG and Pierce on-court might tick off fans of the opposing team, but obviously not to the same extent as Kobe for some fans.  Well, at least he's got the skills, the stats and the awards to back it up.  Should be interesting how he'll handle himself at Boston.

If LA steals one of the first two games in Boston, I think the championship will be LA's in Game 5.  But if this has to go back to Boston, lagot ang LA.  Historically and with the 2-3-2 format, the home team should be favored when the NBA Finals reaches a Game 6 or 7.



             
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 03, 2008 at 05:41 PM
I feel LA will win the first 2 games. Lose the 3rd and win 4th and 5th.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 03, 2008 at 06:08 PM
^^ That's Kobe the MVP for you - either you like him or hate him.  :)  Even the behavior of KG and Pierce on-court might tick off fans of the opposing team, but obviously not to the same extent as Kobe for some fans.  Well, at least he's got the skills, the stats and the awards to back it up.  Should be interesting how he'll handle himself at Boston.

If LA steals one of the first two games in Boston, I think the championship will be LA's in Game 5.  But if this has to go back to Boston, lagot ang LA.  Historically and with the 2-3-2 format, the home team should be favored when the NBA Finals reaches a Game 6 or 7.

I agree.   With Kobe, its either you like him or not.   Im an avid Laker fan so, theres no denyin, I should be on his side.   But tell you, if I aint a Laker fan, Id hate him too.   So I undertsand the folks who hate him where they are coming from.

But the way he had been on and off the court lately, you have to accept the fact that he reached a certain level of maturity that earned respect from his detractors.  And even the media has accepted it.  They voted him for MVP, so thats really something.   At least, he had gotten their respect.

from cnnsi's Chris Ballard

So, you see, this is Kobe, all of this. Sometimes childish, sometimes regal, sometimes stubborn, always relentless. This is a guy who, according to Nike spokesperson KeJuan Wilkins, had the company shave a couple of millimeters off the bottom of his signature shoe because "in his mind that gave him a hundredth of a second better reaction time." A guy who has played the last three months with a torn ligament in the pinkie of his shooting hand. A guy who, says teammate Coby Karl, considers himself "an expert at fouling without getting called for it." (Watch how Bryant uses the back of his hand, not the front, to push off on defenders and a closed-fist forearm to exert leverage.) A guy who says of being guarded by the physical Bowen, "It'll be fun" -- and actually means it. A guy who, no matter what he does, will never get the chance to play the one game he'd die for: Bryant versus Jordan, each in his prime. "There'd be blood on the floor by the end," says Winter, who has coached them both.

This is Kobe Bryant, age 29, in pursuit of his fourth NBA title. Even if it's hard for us to understand him, perhaps it's time that we appreciate him.



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Post by: Munskie on Jun 03, 2008 at 06:25 PM
If the Celtics are going to win a championship, theres no better time than now.    Their window of opportunity isnt that as wide as the Lakers.   The Lakers are in a much better position for the next 3-5 years than the Celtics.




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Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 03, 2008 at 11:55 PM
This is my two top teams... so I wouldn't be that sad whoever wins!!!

I agree with what Munskie said above post... if Garnett wants a ring.. now is his only chance.  Once Bynum plays next year, everyone else's chances has just become slimmer.

The Lakers' best chance to steal a game is in Game 1... in that game, they can surprise the Celts with how much they've improved as a team since their acquisition of Gasol.  I think that Gasol is the key... if the Lakes establish an inside-out game featuring Gasol in the opening minutes, KG and Perkins may be in foul trouble before the end of the first quarter.  Either that or Gasol would be getting double digits already.

If I were to predict a winner, I'll say Lakers in 6!  But what I really want is Lakers in 7... 7 games for this retro-series that has captured almost everyone's attention.
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 05, 2008 at 06:12 AM
Kailan ba start ng Finals mamaya o bukas? Go Spurs...next season!  ;D
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 05, 2008 at 06:20 AM
Kailan ba start ng Finals mamaya o bukas? Go Spurs...next season!  ;D
yes kelan ba? anyone who knows the shcedules pls share to us. tnx!
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Post by: garee on Jun 05, 2008 at 08:59 AM
Lakers in 5 or 6.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:22 AM
yes kelan ba? anyone who knows the schedules pls share to us. tnx!

Go LA!!!

Game 1- June 6 at 9am Friday
Game 2- June 9 at 9am Monday
Game 3- June 11 at 9am Wednesday
Game 4- June 13 at 9am Friday
Game 5- June 16 at 9am Monday
*Game 6- June 18 at 9am Wednesday
*Game 7- June 20 at 9am Friday

*not necessary ;D ;D ;D

aired on C/S RPN and BTV..
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:29 AM
Kailan ba start ng Finals mamaya o bukas? Go Spurs...next season!  ;D

Gawa na ako ng Off-Season thread........tutal malapit na rin ang draft.


http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=80147.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=80147.0)
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Post by: dobler on Jun 05, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Go LA!!!

*Game 6- June 18 at 9am Wednesday
*Game 7- June 20 at 9am Friday

*not necessary ;D ;D ;D

Mismo!  ;D

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Post by: dyerds on Jun 05, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Gawa na ako ng Off-Season thread........tutal malapit na rin ang draft.


http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=80147.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=80147.0)

Thank you for the info sir.


*not necessary ;D ;D ;D


Parang dapat if necessary yan ah!  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 05, 2008 at 03:27 PM
(http://cuzoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/celticpride.gif)

(http://cuzoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/goodluckpaul.gif)

(http://cuzoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/theincrediblehulk.gif)

and lastly....

The Celtics' nightmare..........

Paube Gayant

(http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nba_experts__7/ept_sports_nba_experts-738539230-1212510465.jpg?ymCUwe_CS0p0zykV)
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:13 PM
 I'm with the Celtics coz they're d underdogs. Its now or never for BOSTON. Paul Pierce has endured rough sailing as a Celtic and i feel he should be rewarded now for staying w/ the organization. Same goes to Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen its time for them to rip the fruits out of their harvests.
 GO CELTICS!!!
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:23 PM
less than 12 hours to go... ;D
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:27 PM
Wow! Bukas na pala ang laban. Do you think underdog ang Celtics dito? I feel the other way around.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:35 PM
Ay naku...

Celtics led the league with 66 wins.

They have homecourt advantage.

They have Garnett, Pierce and Allen, who by the way are perennial all-stars.



How could they be underdogs??   ::) ::)
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:40 PM
in terms of hype, definitely.  i mean how can they compete with the kobe juggernaut?  it's also the same reason why most people want to see the celtics  take this series.  me, included. 

BurN, Kobe, BUrN!!!!

           :P
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:43 PM
because they have underachieved in the playoffs.. it took them 20 games to get to the finals compared to the Lakers' 15 and in a tough Western Conference at that.. that's why they are the underdogs.. plus, LA has Kobe.. ;D
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:44 PM
Ay naku...

Celtics led the league with 66 wins.

They have homecourt advantage.

They have Garnett, Pierce and Allen, who by the way are perennial all-stars.



How could they be underdogs??   ::) ::)
Sir, what you stated is true but they are still the underdogs coz the Celtics dont have championship experience like what the Lakers enjoy. Doc Rivers, in his first stint to coach in an NBA finals is up against the ZEN Master w/ various playoffs and championship experience plus 9 titles, all in threepeat fashion. Its still David vs Goliath.
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:47 PM
yun na yung sagot dun sa tanong kung bakit underdogs ang celtics:

KOBE.

 :D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:50 PM

BurN, Kobe, BUrN!!!!
           

Kobe's on fire!!!  ;)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 05, 2008 at 09:51 PM
Sir, what you stated is true but they are still the underdogs coz the Celtics dont have championship experience like what the Lakers enjoy. Doc Rivers, in his first stint to coach in an NBA finals is up against the ZEN Master w/ various playoffs and championship experience plus 9 titles, all in threepeat fashion. Its still David vs Goliath.
  Sarcasm dude......sarcasm.
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 05, 2008 at 10:10 PM
  Sarcasm dude......sarcasm.
whether you like it or not, thats the truth.
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Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 05, 2008 at 11:20 PM
If you're looking for the underdog, let me list them:
Rondo IS against Fisher
Allen IS against Kobe
VladRad IS against Pierce
Odom IS against KG
Perkins IS against Gasol
Plus, the Boston bench IS against Lakers bench

And last but certainly not least, Rivers IS against Jackson.

So, yep... the Celtics look like the underdogs here.  :)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 05, 2008 at 11:25 PM
With the way LA played to get into the finals versus the Celtics, I can see Boston being the underdog.  But as proven in the past, defense wins championships.  And Boston is the superior defensive team compared to the Lakers.
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 05, 2008 at 11:27 PM
If you're looking for the underdog, let me list them:
Rondo IS against Fisher
Allen IS against Kobe
VladRad IS against Pierce
Odom IS against KG
Perkins IS against Gasol
Plus, the Boston bench IS against Lakers bench

And last but certainly not least, Rivers IS against Jackson.

So, yep... the Celtics look like the underdogs here.  :)
fearless forecast?
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Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:12 AM
fearless forecast?

Lakers in 6
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 06, 2008 at 05:19 AM
Lakers in 6
That means the LAKERS have to win and be crowned in BOSTON GARDEN.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 06, 2008 at 07:47 AM
that means...PERFECT SCENARIO

This is Bill Simmons' worst nightmare.




A split in Boston.   2 out of 3 in LA.  Game 6 in Boston.   






I hope Solar doesnt meddle with the broadcast, and bring in local commentators like Chino and Quinito.


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Post by: jiggs84 on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:32 AM
If the Celtics are going to win a championship, theres no better time than now.    Their window of opportunity isnt that as wide as the Lakers.   The Lakers are in a much better position for the next 3-5 years than the Celtics.

i agree with sir munskie. the best time for Celtics to win a championship is now. unless they can do something in the off season to further enhance their team. the Lakers is a budding team, they are young and will have nowhere to go but UP. factor in bynum's return next year and they're probably be the best team in NBA overall.

id say still - Lakers in 6... but my heart goes to Garnett's winning his 1st ring. Kobe can have his next 3 rings in the next 3 years... and Phil Jackson's 4th three-peat!
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:49 AM
This is Bill Simmons' worst nightmare.




A split in Boston.   2 out of 3 in LA.  Game 6 in Boston.   






I hope Solar doesnt meddle with the broadcast, and bring in local commentators like Chino and Quinito.




I guess Solar has indeed meddled with the broadcast already.   :D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 06, 2008 at 10:31 AM
I guess Solar has indeed meddled with the broadcast already.   :D

Salamat na lang meron options.

BTV for the ABC broadcasters,  C/S for Chiquito (Chino and Quinito) tandem.



Lakers up by 5 at halftime.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 06, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Dito samin walang option kundi pakinggan sina Quinito.  :( >:(

Lakers is having a good game. If this game goes down the wire Lakers will have a big chance to win it in Boston.  Ooops! Pierce is down!
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 06, 2008 at 11:49 AM
I'm not watching but I gotta admire Pierce. Currently 7-10 for 22pts. Explosive.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 06, 2008 at 11:56 AM
It looks like Boston has Game 1 in the bag. Ouch! A big follow-up dunk by Garnett.  ;D
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Post by: jht3 on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:01 PM
maalat si kobe ngayon ah hehe.  ;D
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Post by: a2 on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:04 PM
and it is all over for the lakers. they were outhustled by the celts. :( bawi na lang sa next game.
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Post by: JEcHb0Y on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:05 PM
yes!!!  celtics win!!!!
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Celtics win 98-88!!!  Looks like that stat of Philjax going 41-0 when he wins game one is now thrown out the window.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:12 PM
maalat si kobe ngayon ah hehe.  ;D
I just don't know why he keeps settling for jumpshots. I think he getaway with this in their series with San Antonio. If they are going to win their series with Boston he needs to dominate the game by going strong to the basket. This will also helps to set up his teammates for a good shot.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Celtics win 98-88!!!  Looks like that stat of Philjax going 41-0 when he wins game one is now thrown out the window.

actually, it's not.. he's still 41-0 when he wins game one.. if they won today but lost the series, magiging 41-1 na siya..
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:18 PM
actually, it's not.. he's still 41-0 when he wins game one.. if they won today but lost the series, magiging 41-1 na siya..

No...  I mean that stat is no longer relevant since he already lost game 1.  So throw that out the window.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Great job by the Celts containing Bryant when it matters most.




Yeah..its irrelevant now.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:21 PM
I just don't know why he keeps settling for jumpshots. I think he getaway with this in their series with San Antonio. If they are going to win their series with Boston he needs to dominate the game by going strong to the basket. This will also helps to set up his teammates for a good shot.

i think Gasol has to get his own shots.. this has been his problem during the latter part of the playoffs.. against denver he was able to impose his will.. but after that, di na masyado.. Garnett can get 30pts by himself but Gasol can't with the way he is playing now.. he gets his points courtesy of Kobe.. and that's not good especially if Kobe is shooting 9-26..
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Turning point of the game, Pierce coming back from the injury and scoring 2 straight 3s.   The Lakers never really got momentum after that.
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:03 PM
like i said,

BuRn, KoBe, bURn!!!   ;D

kidding aside, this still has a long way to go and it could go both ways.

let's wait and see...
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Post by: -sniper- on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:18 PM
one down...three more to go...

i hope pierce recovers for next game.


I hope Solar doesnt meddle with the broadcast, and bring in local commentators like Chino and Quinito.


too late bro...sadly.  :( :( :( >:(


C/S for Chiquito (Chino and Quinito) tandem.


nice one.  ;D ;D ;D

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Post by: Munskie on Jun 06, 2008 at 04:10 PM
Random Thoughts: Game 1 2008 Finals

1.  Paul Pierce, ala Willis Reed, returned from what it looks like a serious injury, and fueled the Celts by sinking 2 straight 3s in the end of the 3rd quarter.  That was the turning point of the game.   The Lakers were never the same after that.

2.  If the Lakers were to lose the series because of rebounding problems, the Laker faithful will always wonder, "what if Bynum was there?".   They were outrebounded in game 1, 46-33.

3.  The difference between the Celtic Defense and that of the Spurs, the Celtic big men are more adept and quick in protecting the rim.   That was a major factor in Kobe's 9-26 night.  Allen and Posey played him tight, resulting to contested jumpers.   They know they have help on their backside. 

As Fisher added, Kobe has to get more shots coming off screens, rather than from isolation plays.

4.  Doc Rivers outcoached Jackson in this one.   The "protect the rim strategy" was impressive, but also didnt allow the Lakers to get hot in the perimeter.   He also got points from the 1 guard position, courtesy of Rondo and Cassell.   

5.   The injury to Paul Pierce looks more serious than it seems.   According to reports, its pretty sore right after game.   Adrenaline prompted him to return, and it resulted in a win.   He has 48-72 hours to heal.    I do hope so, Im for fair match-up, even if injuries are part of the game. 
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 06, 2008 at 06:21 PM
Cheers! The Celtics won game 1. Paul Pierce really carried his team, he's the main man in this Boston team.
The Lakers didnt play well perhaps they were intimidated by the Boston Crowd. They should be back w/ vengeance in game 2 before bringing the series to Hollywood for the finishing kicks.
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Post by: sanmig_ph on Jun 07, 2008 at 06:22 AM
babawi din kami sa game2 ;)
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 07, 2008 at 06:34 AM
babawi din kami sa game2 ;)
he he Lakers fan k pala. Goodluck sa game 2 i hope the game will finish down to the wire.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 07, 2008 at 11:00 AM
I'm expecting a great game on Monday.. :D
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Post by: Marl☆1 on Jun 07, 2008 at 01:24 PM
anybody knows the replay sked of G1 - when and where? TIA
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Post by: ruth2art on Jun 09, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Ayan... mag-start na game 2. Tutok na!!!
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Don't like the calls of the refs. Boston is playing great but they're getting a lot of help from the refs.
To many no calls on Lakers end...end of the half Boston 19 FTA versus Lakers 2.
It's not like all Lakers' attempt were all jumpshot from the outside.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 09, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Don't like the calls of the refs. Boston is playing great but they're getting a lot of help from the refs.
To many no calls on Lakers end...end of the half Boston 19 FTA versus Lakers 2.
It's not like all Lakers' attempt were all jumpshot from the outside.

You can never do anything about the refs.  The Lakers just have to be more aggressive to stay alive in the game.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 09, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Don't like the calls of the refs. Boston is playing great but they're getting a lot of help from the refs.
To many no calls on Lakers end...end of the half Boston 19 FTA versus Lakers 2.
It's not like all Lakers' attempt were all jumpshot from the outside.

Advantage of homecourt  ;)

Go Boston! Take advantage of Kobe's 3 fouls!
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 09, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Gasol is finally playing aggressive.. the Boston defense is just excellent.. the Lakers defense is almost non-existent.. ang bagal ng rotation nila sa shooters.. kung si Kobe at Gasol lang gagawa, patay na naman LA.. next year na lang sila bumawi pagbalik ni Bynum..
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Unfortunately that is true. I hope the refs review the 1st half and see the calls they missed.

Looks liek it's 2-0 for Boston...I'm calling it even if there's 1.5 quarter left to play :)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:00 AM
the refs just have to be consistent to be perceived as fair.  if tatawag sila ng touchy fouls...then dapat buong game ganun.
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Boston is playing really well on both ends of the court.  Have to give them credit for that, despite the glaring disparity in FT opportunities c/o of the refs.  On the other hand, the Lakers (esp. Kobe) are obviously letting the pressure of being branded "favorites" in this series (rightly or wrongly) get to them, despite not having the home court advantage.  I hope they just keep their composure and keep within striking range of Boston.  I'm not giving up on them in this game yet.  
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:14 AM
18 point lead by the Celtics! AMAZING!
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Tambak na Lakers!  ;D Massacre!  ;D
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Phil Jackson is going to give it one last push in the start of the 4th.
After 3-4 mins and nothing develops I think he's going to send in the bench.
Can't do anything about this game, they just have to go home and prepare for Game 3.
I won't be surprised if he plays mostly the bench in the 4th.
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:23 AM
No way LA can recover from this.  I felt that this was the road game they had to win if they wanted to bag the title.  I hope they do a Miami Heat: win the next three home games, and win Game 6 back at Boston.  :-[
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:23 AM
it's in an opponent like the Celtics that you miss a defensive presence and excellent rebounder like Bynum.. they have to be quicker to the ball in game 3 or else they will get swept.. their bench has to step up as well..
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:28 AM
hahahaha... how is Kobe similar to Michael Jordan again???

Kobe is only a copy cat. This years finals just proves how TINY he is compared to Jordan. And to think they let him win the MVP.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:30 AM
I'm hoping for a sweep for the so-called dream finals  ::)
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:40 AM
And to think they let him win the MVP.

I'm no Kobe fan, but after seeing the Lakers defeat the defending champs when Paul's Hornets couldn't, I think he deserves it. Anyway, the NBA has to give him the award at least once during his entire career, so his best season w/o Shaq is the perfect time.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Big credit to Rondo on his 16-assist (so far) game as well. I was afraid he's gonna disappear during the finals.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:47 AM
And when did Ray Allen become a defensive player?  ::)  ::)  ::) Come on Kobe you can do better than that with Allen guarding you. Eventhough if there is help, at least he can go around Allen w/o trouble. I still don't know why he keep shooting jumpshots and even posting him when he sees than its not making any difference. Why not drive to the hoop and dish it to your teammate when help comes.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:50 AM
ctlim - he never compared himself to MJ. Kobe has always said he can never be MJ and there can only be one MJ. But the talent Kobe has is something that no other NBA player has. A lot of people/writers aknowledge how he is the best in the NBA right now (I know there is a lot of argument there) just like MJ was during his time.

If one wants to be great you have to copy great players ahead of you and try to improve on it. They are your idols and you really try to mimic them.

As for the MVP, I don't suppose you wanted MJ to win this years MVP. Truth is Kobe is one of the best this year -- that is why they are in the Finals.

Kobe will always be -- either you hate him or love him. No in between just because you have to appreciate how good he is at playing basketball. I just think it's unfair Kobe is shot down with a comparison to MJ yet he never said anything that he is comparable to MJ.

PS: Yes, I am a Kobe fan :)
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Jesus Christ! this ain't over yet!  :o
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:52 AM
He deserves to be the MVP this season no question about that. It's only a 4-pt lead!  :D
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:55 AM
dyerds -- thye're really doing a great team defense against Kobe. They are forcing him to give up the ball. What the Lakers really need is for the role players to hit their shots. That will free him to operate and drive to the basket.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:56 AM
WTF, 2 pt lead na lang!?  :-X
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Wow!  :o What a turn around!  :o Now we have a game!  ;D
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Traveling yung steal-fastbreak ni Ramdanovic  ;D buti na lang hindi tinawagan.
I was hoping The Truth will miss 1 of 2 to make it a 1 posession game and no need for a 3.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 11:59 AM
dyerds -- thye're really doing a great team defense against Kobe. They are forcing him to give up the ball. What the Lakers really need is for the role players to hit their shots. That will free him to operate and drive to the basket.

...but he is contented with his jumpshots...why not drive to the hoop and get some fouls
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Nice Game! pinasarap pa ng 4th quarter! nice way to spend your holiday  ;D
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Great defense by Pierce, the Finals MVP, if ever Celtics win it all
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:03 PM
2 wins na lang at may ring na yung big three ng Celtics. Yah! I think Pierce would win the Finals MVP if they become champs.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:04 PM
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...but he is contented with his jumpshots...why not drive to the hoop and get some fouls
I agree, but we're not seeing what he's seeing on the floor. Baka wala talaga driving lane.
I think he's taking slightly contested shots compred to driving against 2-3 defenders and 1 on them is KG.
Plus the refs are not calling the fouls so you'd like more space to take your shot rather than hands holding you down but no calls coming.
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Congrats to Boston.  Nice end-game rally there by LA - something they can build on when they return to the Staples Center, where I hope they can be more aggressive offensively.  Phil Jackson and the coaching staff have their work cut out for them.  Lots of adjustments needed here, especially on the defensive end and in rebounding.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I agree, but we're not seeing what he's seeing on the floor. Baka wala talaga driving lane.
I think he's taking slightly contested shots compred to driving against 2-3 defenders and 1 on them is KG.
Plus the refs are not calling the fouls so you'd like more space to take your shot rather than hands holding you down but no calls coming.

Maybe. Anyway, sana hindi naman sweep. I am hoping that Lakers will win all their games at home kasi mahina sa road ang Celts sa playoffs para naman maganda yung series.  ;D
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:12 PM
kobe WILL never be jordan.

kala ko ba babawi lakers game 2?
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:22 PM
coming back from that lead was big for LA.. it would have been more difficult going into game 3 down 0-2 and getting blown out in game 2..

no one will ever be Jordan the same way no one else will ever be Kobe..
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:23 PM
jeyps, i never said kobe compared himself. i'm talking about those who do it for him. PS: i also think kobe is currenty the nba's most skilled player.

why would I want MJ to be this years MVP? no need to be sarcastic here.

sure they beat the spurs.... but they had to get gasol midway to get there. chris paul was doing it the whole year. marketing aside, chris paul should have won. remember the mvp award is given out for the 82 games and with little consideration to the playoffs.
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I think the Lakers could steal some Home advantage on the next games, I'm not impressed on the Heart of the Celtics on the road, though I want them to be the 2008 Champs  ;D

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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Traveling yung steal-fastbreak ni Ramdanovic  ;D buti na lang hindi tinawagan.
I was hoping The Truth will miss 1 of 2 to make it a 1 posession game and no need for a 3.

Traveling nga yun.  Nag no call na lang yun ref.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:41 PM
ct - my bad on the sarcasm ;D either way, Paul or Kobe this year was a fair decision. Both played great. You also have to take into consideration that this is the 1st time Paul has played with all of his teammates without any injuries. My take on the Gasol trade...if he was sent to Miami would he have made a big difference -- I don't think so, he wouldn't have been able to carry that team to the Finals. We can say that Kobe and the Lakers were even better with Gasol.

Ash - even if the Lakers win games 3 through 5 they won't have homecourt advantage. They had to win one one out of the first 2 games -- we all know what happened there. Dahil sa 2-3-2 format games 6 and 7 will be in Boston.

bored - agree, if you are Phil Jackson you hvae to be happy with the intensity you saw in the last 6 minutes of the game. If only they can play like that for the entire 48 minutes.

Also, I think there were some lapses during that great run by LA. There were easy baskets made by Allen and Pierce plus there were rebounds that they should have come up with. The 2nd chance points the Cs got from those rebounds might have been the difference (in the final score) of this game. I still think Boston got a very huge lift from their FTA -- I think it ended with 28 to 8 (correct me if I am wrong).
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Celtics vs Lakers sa finals..
Celtics emerging as champs.. ;D

Mukhang magkakatotoo na to.. ;D
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:48 PM
i think boston really improved defensively throughout the playoffs... maybe also due to the detroit matchup. and the lakers are looking for "great offense to beat great defense." problem is, boston has three premier offensive players. lakers have to step up the defense and pound it inside... something detroit wasnt able to do as rasheed wanted to shoot 3's.

lakers should slow down the game and use post ups with kobe and gasol and put boston into the penalty early to disrupt their rythm.

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Post by: Munskie on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:49 PM
2-0 siyet hole na. 

Again, better game by the Celts, no doubt about it.    Powe was the difference maker.

Radmanovic meanwhile was the difference maker for the Lakers, in a negative kind of way.   

The Lakers got the worst end of the calls, but I understand it, the home team usually get the breaks.


About Kobe settling for jumpshots, again he has to take what the defense gives him.    The Celtic defense is very good in collapsing and in rotating in covering open men.  They even limited  Lebron for a 2-18 shooting in a game in the conference semis.   Easy lang kasi natin sabihin, but it is really tough out there.   



About the numerous Kobe debates,

Its this simple:   

If a fan hate or dislikes Kobe,  whatever he brings to the game, or whatever accolades he got, it will always be doubted. 

Its like asking some guy why he voted for FPJ, and the guy says  "idol nya si FPJ".      Thats its.   End of argument.  How can you argue with that?

In Kobe, its either you like him or hate him.   

     
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 09, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Go Celtics!!  :D
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 09, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Well said Munskie.

I agree with Radmanovic playing a big role in that Lakers 3rd quarter collapse.
He took 2 ill-advised jumpers after making a 3 which started the big rally.
You'll see Kobe tapped him (almost slapped him) on the bench during a time out.

Fisher is still missing in these year's finals. No good offensive game so far and he's being eaten by Rondo (rebounds and setting everything for the Celtics).

Overall, I am still very positive of the Lakers (in this series and the next few to come). If they eventually lose this series it'll be a great experience for them. They have enough young players and a very good core (Kobe, Gasol, Odom and Bynum) to contend for the new couple of seasons. Game 3 is a must win for the Lakers or they can kiss this series goodbye.
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Post by: Battousai on Jun 09, 2008 at 02:10 PM
hahahaha... how is Kobe similar to Michael Jordan again???

Kobe is only a copy cat. This years finals just proves how TINY he is compared to Jordan. And to think they let him win the MVP.

Ah, the Kobe-is-no-MJ debate still rages. I'd like to think fans have become intelligent nowadays and get past that ridiculous notion that someine is the next someone; but I think marami pa rin nakasuot ng blinders. Kobe is Kobe and MJ is MJ. Period.

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Post by: Munskie on Jun 09, 2008 at 03:43 PM
hear, hear. enough of mj comparisons and let's focus on 2008!

speaking of focus, what happened to the focus of my team  :(
their inside game has disappeared. they went to gasol early, with good results, but went away from that and let the celts dictate their offense (outside jumpers). the disparity in free throws is quite instructive.

these are not the lakers of the past rounds and they need to wake up. kobe needs to read the d better, or better yet, make them react to him instead of the other way around.

but take nothing away from the celts, they have become better with each round.

actually, LA did attempted more shots in the paint than the Celts....

Celtics:
45 perimeter shots
23 shots in the paint
38 free throws

Lakers:
42 perimeter shots
41 shots in the paint
10 free throws

Breaks of the game lang talaga on why there wasnt more calls coming their way. 

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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 09, 2008 at 03:47 PM
expect a laker win in game 3.  that's a given and 4 at the very least...
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 09, 2008 at 04:14 PM
What can I say? There goes my 4-1 forecast for the Lakers. The Celtics played like there's no tomorrow, which is probably the case. And just like Jimmy McGinty said, that makes them vey dangerous people. They are everywhere. Makes you feel there's 7 Celtics playing. And 38 free throws vs Lakers' 10!

I hope the Lakers win at home. I wanna see the Laker team that beat the Spurs. And yes, a game 7 would be nice.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 09, 2008 at 05:20 PM
defense always wins championships!  and boston by far is the superior defensive team.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 09, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Another thing, no one in Lakers roster can stop Pierce. He is another reason why Celts won its first 2 games in Boston.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 09, 2008 at 07:38 PM
Another thing, no one in Lakers roster can stop Pierce. He is another reason why Celts won its first 2 games in Boston.

Sinabi mo pa bro.    Radma?  No way.   Walton?  No way rin.  Ariza....pwede, but too much out of sync pa sa game.   Kobe?   Na ooverpower sya. 

The Knee??   What Knee??  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Battousai on Jun 09, 2008 at 09:21 PM
The thing that scares me the most is that in this playoffs, the LAkers haven't found themselves trailing any team. Sure, they got beat back-to-back, but they had the luxury of a 2-0 advantage when they got beat two straight at Utah. I hope they can adjust and beat the Celtics at home.

IMHO, it's Ray Allen that's killing the LAkers. They can live with Pierce and Garnett scoring, but once they get Allen involved, it's a tricky, tricky situation coz he opens everything up. It's very difficult to guard him coz he's just so fast, especially in releasing the ball.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 09, 2008 at 09:33 PM
Ive noticed that Allen is moving like Hamilton or Miller off the ball, getting free from screens, and make it double screens provided by Celtic big men at that.    Thats why he is getting good looks.   Poor job by Laker big men in rotating to cover Allen. 

The thing that scares me the most is that in this playoffs, the LAkers haven't found themselves trailing any team. Sure, they got beat back-to-back, but they had the luxury of a 2-0 advantage when they got beat two straight at Utah. I hope they can adjust and beat the Celtics at home.

This is the adversity of adversities for them.   I hope it gets better.   Thats the worst Ive seen them play D.  Talo rin talaga sa breaks.  Just like the long rebounds off Garnett's jumpers that fell on Celtic hands.  3-4 times ata nangyari yun.

I think PhilJax has to speed up their offensive tempo.  Talo talaga sa halfcourt set coz the Celtic D is really good.     
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 09, 2008 at 09:46 PM
Ive noticed that Allen is moving like Hamilton or Miller off the ball, getting free from screens, and make it double screens provided by Celtic big men at that.    Thats why he is getting good looks.   Poor job by Laker big men in rotating to cover Allen. 

this really pisses me off.. ang bagal ng rotation sa shooters.. kanina, when kobe got called for his 3rd foul when he pushed off on Pierce habang hinahabol si Allen.. that could have been avoided had the one guarding Pierce covered Allen instead of waiting for Kobe to get out of the screen..
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 09, 2008 at 09:55 PM
this really pisses me off..

Hehe, thats why my mindset going to this postseason is that bonus na lang kung Champs ang Lakers.   Para di na ako mainis.   

Going back, wala man lang sa top ten sa pre-season ranking ang Lakers.  So kahit na anong mangyari, for me, the season is already a success. 

But I know, andyan narin sila, and we never know what might happen in the future.   So until the Celts win 4 games, theres always hope. 
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 11, 2008 at 09:02 AM
Game time.  It's do-or-die for the Lakers.  Good luck!

Hope Chi-Qui-to will not interview some clown like Lucky the Leprechaun this time.  Also read somewhere that David Cook will sing the national anthem at Staples. :)
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 11, 2008 at 09:38 AM
Game time.  It's do-or-die for the Lakers.  Good luck!

Agree...if they don't get this game they can forget about their championship hopes.
I don't think any team in the NBA has ever climbed out of an 0-3 hole. Boston did it once -- in the MLB.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 09:49 AM
That's why I'm hoping that Lakers win this game para naman gumanda yung series.  :) Boston is playing good though, this maybe bad news for Lakers.
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Post by: joey on Jun 11, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Tied @ 20 for 1st Qtr

it seems na nagstrugle ang boston in first minute of game, there aces cant connect the shots.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 11, 2008 at 09:51 AM
Pierce 0-4, 2 fouls
KG 0-5, 7reb 3blks
Allen 2 fouls

...and still tied at 20  ;)  Boston bench stepping up.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Pierce 0-4, 2 fouls
KG 0-5, 7reb 3blks
Allen 2 fouls

...and still tied at 20  ;)  Boston bench stepping up.

That is the most scary part about that for the Lakers fan.

If Lakers can be consistent with these 3 then maybe Lakers can win.
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 11, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Game 2's ft's are 38-10 for Boston.

Right now, w/ 10 mins to go in the 2Q, it's 16-2 for LA. Home court advantage?
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Stern maximizing profit until Game 7  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Mukhang 60-10 advantage nito sa FT attempts...
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM
There can only be one.

(http://images.courtcatastrophe.multiply.com/image/4/photos/upload/300x300/SE8TAAoKCqEAAE5aYF81/PHOTO_1320961_23767_2654351_main.jpg?et=D5f04I0tul8WFzeauuAvpw&nmid=100474232)
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Looks like it'll be a 40+ min game for Kobe
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Post by: joey on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM
37-43 for lakers 1st half.

i think if lakers continue the aggressiveness, they can win this game. i like the isolation they doing for kobe.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Its a tight game to the end..
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Odom with very fresh legs might be a problem for the Celtics. And Pierce, KG, and Gasol needs to show up at the second half
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Stern maximizing profit until Game 7  ;D

I wonder how true this (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AiRhB3a0DTvmv9fYF2FKn_e8vLYF?slug=ap-bettingprobe&prov=ap&type=lgns) is.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:40 AM
There can only be one.

(http://images.courtcatastrophe.multiply.com/image/4/photos/upload/300x300/SE8TAAoKCqEAAE5aYF81/PHOTO_1320961_23767_2654351_main.jpg?et=D5f04I0tul8WFzeauuAvpw&nmid=100474232)

That is why I really think Sam is very familiar. Now I know why.  ;D

Lakers is leading at the half because...
- their bench is playing good offensively
- they are playing good defence on the big three (it also helps na dinadaga na naman si KG)  ;D
- Lakers' advantage in ft attempts (it just shows that they are playing it inside and not settling for jumpshots)
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Post by: kings5504 on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:50 AM
I wonder how true this (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AiRhB3a0DTvmv9fYF2FKn_e8vLYF?slug=ap-bettingprobe&prov=ap&type=lgns) is.

I sure hope it is. In the end, I know my team still choked, but at least people would stop calling us conspiracy nuts after all our whining at the end of game 6. ;D

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Post by: blackie on Jun 11, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Two minutes to play in the third.  Tight game!!!!!
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 11, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Nyah...lamang na Boston :(:(:( Lakers was leading most of the 1st half and 3rd quarter.
Baka 3rd quarter melt down na naman ito :(

Ray Allen having a big game for the first time in this year's playoffs.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Nice fake no?
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Panalo Lakers.. 87-81
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Yahoo!!!! Lakers back in the series!
Now Game 4 is as crucial as Game 3.
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:10 PM
as expected, but the Laker's lead is not impressive...
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:12 PM
as expected, but the Laker's lead is not impressive...

They missed a lot of FTs.
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:16 PM
was expecting that win.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM
If the Lakers win the game 4, we have a series..
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Post by: Battousai on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:27 PM
as expected, but the Laker's lead is not impressive...

Doesn't matter, it's the W that matters.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:30 PM
as expected, but the Laker's lead is not impressive...

It was actually an ugly game.   But a win whether a point or a blow out still counts. 

Some thoughts:

1.   Defense reigned throughout the game.   Lakers shot 43.5% while the Celts were limited to 35%.    KG was 6-21 while Pierce was an awful 2-14.  Now its Celts fans to wonder why KG is settling for those long jumpers and fade-away shots.  He is shooting 35% for the series (16-62)

2.  Lakers should still be worried.   Garnett and Pierce were a combined 8-35, but the Celtics still managed a close game.    The Lakers still need to get significant contributions from Gasol and Odom.  There played poorly most of the game.

3.  Efficient games by Kobe and Sasha.   They were 12-20 and 7-10 respectively.   When Sasha was in the game, Lakers were +12, the highest of the game.

4.  Lakers this time were awarded 34 FTs but missed 13 of those.   Celtics were not as good either, missing 7 of 22 attempts.

 
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Must be a weird time for David Stern.   

Here comes Donaghy with another set of allegations that Refs altered play-off games.   And this right in the middle of one of the most anticipated Finals series ever.
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 11, 2008 at 01:09 PM
Excellent composure by the Lakers in crunch time.  Should be a confidence-booster for the coming games, although they have to be concerned that, even with Pierce playing badly, Boston was still in a position to make it 3-0.  If only LA shot better from the FT line...  I'm expecting a big game from Pierce and KG next time. 

Also, what's happening to Odom??  He has to break out of that slump he's in.  Good thing Vujacic played well to support Kobe.   

Didn't catch the 3Q - how bad was the injury to Rondo?
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Post by: kimpOy on Jun 11, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Must be a weird time for David Stern.   

Here comes Donaghy with another set of allegations that Refs altered play-off games.   And this right in the middle of one of the most anticipated Finals series ever.

the boy who cried wolf  is really not the reliable source  here... but im afraid his telling the truth...
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 01:26 PM
Also, what's happening to Odom??  He has to break out of that slump he's in.  Good thing Vujacic played well to support Kobe.   

Silly touch fouls.  Silly offensive fouls.

Its good though he's trying to be aggressive, although he cant properly finish.    But PhilJax is right.   He looks confused out there.
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 11, 2008 at 02:14 PM
ugly game indeed... lakers with 17 assists. boston with 19. Kobe had only 1 assist.

dismal shooting from both garnett and pierce. (they both had their worst playoff game on the same day)

celtics shot the ball 83 times, lakers only 69. not enough touches for gasol and odom, the later didnt even get to the free throw line.

Pierce and Garnett, missed 27 shots Lakers only won by 6. Boston is a tough team to beat.

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Post by: CeeV on Jun 11, 2008 at 02:24 PM
 ;D What i did enjoyed best is the intermission Dance number  of the Laker Girl....galing nung Get LOW (Flo Rida) dance number nla ::)..
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 02:40 PM
Boston is a tough team to beat.

Very good team defense.   KG is shooting a horrible 35% in the series, but they're still ahead.   
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Post by: STRIKER on Jun 11, 2008 at 02:44 PM
;D What i did enjoyed best is the intermission Dance number  of the Laker Girl....galing nung Get LOW (Flo Rida) dance number nla ::)..

FYI lang... FLO RIDA arrived here in manila last week.
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Post by: CeeV on Jun 11, 2008 at 02:51 PM
yeah..pero those Gorgeous Laker Girls..will ease your tension out..lol..I had to switch channel sa BS1 (japanese channel) just to see what happening on a timeout..Basketball TV was full of commercials and channel 9 you have but to get amused or laughed off sa commentator.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 02:56 PM
Also, what's happening to Odom??  He has to break out of that slump he's in.  

He is a very inconsistent player, that's it. That is why I won't be surprise if they trade him next season if they do not win the chamiponship this year.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:21 PM
channel 9 you have but to get amused or laughed off sa commentator.

Hahahaha!  Same sentiments here.  I mean some of their comments are bordering on idiotic kindly put.  I remember in Game 2 where Quinito Henson mentioned that maybe Leon Powe is the next FPJ...as in Fernando Powe!  WTF!!!
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Post by: sardaukar on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Yeah sarap batukan ni Quinito. May pa-Baaa-sten Baaa-sten pa siya. Kainis. Halata namang trying hard kasi maya-maya pag nakalimutan na niya, Boston naman pagkasabi niya. ::)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I don't know if I heard correctly, but here goes.

Chino: Pierce already has 8 pts.
Quinito: That's not too bad for 6-9 shooting.

???
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:33 PM
Salamat na lang sa BTV.   Jeff Van Gundy is a delight as analyst.  He's goofy, but does a good job in giving an expert insight on plays  ;) ;) 

I also like it when Mike Breen hollers...."Bang!!!"
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:36 PM
That is why I won't be surprise if they trade him next season if they do not win the chamiponship this year.

Gusto ko Mike Miller or Shane Battier.  ;D ;D ;D

Donation muli from Memphis???
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:41 PM
I don't know if I heard correctly, but here goes.

Chino: Pierce already has 8 pts.
Quinito: That's not too bad for 6-9 shooting.

???

Baka naman kasi from the ft line.  ;D

Anyway, I really hate to watch nba with tagalog commentaries.  >:( Kaya minsan inaaway ko customer service ng Cablelink kapag ganyan eh. Wala ka kasi choice kundi panoorin ng live yung sa RPN.  >:(
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Gusto ko Mike Miller or Shane Battier.  ;D ;D ;D

Donation muli from Memphis???

How bout Bruce Bowen?  :D
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Post by: -sniper- on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:47 PM
it's 2-1. and i'll expect another loss from boston...it's better to net the trophy at home. :) (just the product of a very playful mind. as with other boston fans, i do not want another loss for them.) :) :) :)

but it would also be good to finish on the road. :)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:49 PM
How bout Bruce Bowen?  :D

Hindi match eh...tanda na ni Bowen.   Odom is just 28 y/o.    Tsaka di mahilig magbigay ng donation si Kupchak.  ;D ;D
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 03:53 PM
Hindi match eh...tanda na ni Bowen.   Odom is just 28 y/o.    Tsaka di mahilig magbigay ng donation si Kupchak.  ;D ;D

I'll probably go with Battier I think both teams will benefit from this trade.  He is with Houston right? :)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 04:03 PM
I'll probably go with Battier I think both teams will benefit from this trade.  He is with Houston right? :)
Yup....I feel Odom would be in the trading block, win or lose.

Odom hasnt played SF in 5 years.   And they need some cap room for Bynum's contract extension.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 11, 2008 at 05:36 PM
Wouldn't any team challenge the Lakers for Bynum? I mean he's a restricted free agent, right?
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 11, 2008 at 05:47 PM
hahahaha buti nalang may BTV ako.

kaya gumanti kayo sa kasibaan ng ABSCBN.... switch to Destiny Cable.

anyways, agree. Odom is very inconsistent. LA should trade him. In the opinion, he's become just as useless as Rasheed Wallace. (the most inconsistent player on the planet)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 11, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Wouldn't any team challenge the Lakers for Bynum? I mean he's a restricted free agent, right?

Lakers picked up Bynum's option for $2.7 million next season.   He will be a restricted free agent after 2008-09 season.   Lakers is just evaluating his injury.  He is Jim Buss' pick, he will be offered a contract extension, probably near the max deal of $75 million. 
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Post by: a2 on Jun 11, 2008 at 07:06 PM
kahit may btv kami, di ko mapigilang manood sa c/s. ibang klase ang duo na chino-quinito. ;D

chino: sasha vusashish

lol

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Post by: Munskie on Jun 12, 2008 at 09:31 AM
and as a phil jackson admirer i have to say i'm disappointed with col. sanders so far. he's been outcoached by tom thibodeau, whose defensive schemes have been superb. tom's been turning kobe into his old self, trying to take over and going away from the offense.

Boston is excellent in rotating whenever a double team comes up.   So far, they have taken away the easy baskets on inside passes.   Yan ang nawala sa Laker offense.   And thats where Odom and Gasol used to have bunches of their points.   


About Simmons naman, die hard Boston fan talaga yan.   Mapa Red Sox or Patriots.   

I do agree with him though that the Staple crowd is pretty lifeless.    Kahit naman nung 80s ganun na eh.   Di talaga boisterous compared to other crowd, like in Boston, Utah or Phoenix.   Halos raw kasi ng tao dun naka Botox, kaya di makasigaw........sabi naman ng iba, sanay na raw sa Finals games kaya di na raw gaano excited.   At sabi rin ng iba, napakamahal raw ng ticket, wala raw yung mga ordinary joes among the crowd.   Puro stiff-faced executives.

Sa Boston, talagang magiging hyper mga fans dun.   20 years na silang gutom sa Finals eh.  ;)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Siguro sa location na rin.  Iba na yata yun crowd sa Staples Center.  I remember watching the crowd dun sa THE FORUM...people wore LA color make up and made signs from cardboards to cheer for the Lakers.  And they were loud.  Meron pa nga each person holding a letter when held up together spelled SHOWTIME!!!
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 12, 2008 at 09:17 PM
Game 4 na bukas.. Let's go! Let's go Celtics!!
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Post by: tonedeaf on Jun 12, 2008 at 11:19 PM

and as a phil jackson admirer i have to say i'm disappointed with col. sanders so far. he's been outcoached by tom thibodeau, whose defensive schemes have been superb. tom's been turning kobe into his old self, trying to take over and going away from the offense.


i agree on this. simmons, in his latest article, listed down the must-do's against the celts, which the Hawks and the other teams used successfully against the team (pressing the guards etc). The Lakers have used these sparingly.

i can't actually believe that the celtics are a better defensive team than the spurs (though i'm no expert). except that the lakers offense seemed so much more fluid in the spurs series.

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Post by: STRIKER on Jun 12, 2008 at 11:55 PM
i agree on this. simmons, in his latest article, listed down the must-do's against the celts, which the Hawks and the other teams used successfully against the team (pressing the guards etc). The Lakers have used these sparingly.

i can't actually believe that the celtics are a better defensive team than the spurs (though i'm no expert). except that the lakers offense seemed so much more fluid in the spurs series.



i am a spurs fan.... been one for quite sometime now, and its really sad to see that their age is showing compared to younger teams like hornets and lakers. yes, its quite obvious that the celtics play better defense compared to the spurs.

"offense will get you to the finals but, defense will win you the championship!"
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 09:09 AM
It's game time!!!
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 09:26 AM
16-6..Mainit ang Lakers..Odom with 8 pts already..
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Good start from the Lakers offensively and defensively.  :) Odom is having a good game too!
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 09:48 AM
35-14 end of 1st quarter..Superb offense from the Lakers..
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 13, 2008 at 09:56 AM
As expected, a must-win for the Lakers.

Bawi na lang sa Game 5 to end it at Boston. Pero habol pa sana!
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:00 AM
c'mon It's too early, this ain't no PBA  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Good bonehead foul by Radmanovic.....leads to a Laker 3.    ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM
18 point halftime lead, with Kobe scoring only 3 pts so far.  Finally, the other Lakers show up!  ;D  Hope they keep the lead and not be complacent.  The 3Q will be crucial...
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Don't count out the Cs just yet...they have enough firepower to comeback from this game.
You saw the Lakers come back for 20+ down in the 4th...Cs can do that as well.

3rd quarter is crucial indeed. They have to go out with the same intensity (and luck) in the 1st.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:01 AM
JVG is really a gem as an analyst.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:14 AM
9 pt. Laker lead na lang..
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:17 AM
73-71.. Lakers lead only by 2 pts..  ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Boston's back in the game.  Momentum's on their side now.    
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Lakers getting owned in all 3rd quarters of the series.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Nice comeback! Any status on Rondo? He only played 13 mins
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:28 AM
This could be the best game of the series......Pierce vs Bryant, going head to head...offense and defense.   Pierce still have the upper hand.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:30 AM
We got a game now!  ;D I'm sure ang dami Lakers fans na kinakabahan.  ;D A reminiscent of Game 1 between Spurs and Lakers.  ;D I still hope Lakers win para best of 3 na lang.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM
A great Celtic comeback. They're now up by 5 pts.  ;D
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:47 AM
What a turn around this  is. Gosh! 5 pts and its only less than 3 mins to go, it looks like a 3-1 seires to me.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Cs up by 5 now...if they steal this consider the series over. Even if the Lakers win game 5.
Its hard to win 3 straight plus the impact of this game on the morale of the players.

Some key points (for me) if the Cs go on to win this:
> Lakers relaxed in the 3rd quarter, they weren't attacking like the 1st quarter.

> Wahtever happened to Fisher...Farmar isn't playing great why is he in.
> Kobe opting to pass...but he's covered by 4 people...can't blame him.

> Odom doesn't know how to take advantage of his mismatch. He keeps on spinning against Posey but he knows how to play D. Just pound it in and take the jumphook so there's no way he can pull of the chair on you.

> Wow...Pierce can really sell a foul even on a very sight contact
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:00 PM
no comment na lang.

kobelaat!!! ;D
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Tsk...tsk... 3-1 na. Better luck next season Lakers. ;D
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM
If the Cs wins the series you really have to give it to them...this game shows why they are deserving champs. They never gave up on the game. Posey was the main difference in this game especially when they started playing small. Odom kept on leaving him and made the Lakers pay.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Kobe lost it for LA.. he waited too long to get his game going.. good job by the Celtics.. bawi na lang next year with Bynum.. but wouldn't be great if they come back from a 1-3 deficit and win it in Boston? well, wishful thinking..
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM
total meltdown by the lakers....very unlikely for a PhilJax team!
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:12 PM
The Celtics win it!!!  ;D
Lakers played a great 1st half but ended up in a meltdown.
I thought that this game will end in their favor but the Celtics played as if there was no tomorrow.
Game 5 will be very interesting.  ;D
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I'm toying with the idea of the Big Three sharing the MVP award.  ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Congrats to Boston.  This win effectively bagged the title for them.  They proved that they're definitely the better team, especially in terms of defense and half-court execution.  Saludo ako.  I also agree with one of the earlier posts - it's Ray Allen who has been most consistent and reliable in this series and deserves to win the MVP.  But I doubt if he's going to get it - sentimental favorite either si KG or Pierce.  

As for LA, well, I just hope they have some desire and pride left to at least win the next one - their last at Staples this year.  :-[  
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Interesting who wins the Finals MVP.

The outstanding plays came from Pierce especially after injuring his knee.
But I think Rey Allen hsa been the most consistent of the 3.
Even in the Game 3 loss he was the one who kept them in the game.
But I think it'll be Paul Pierce.

Too bad Stern didn't get all his 3 wishes...he would have wanted this series to go to game 7.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I think Sasha taunted Ray Allen too much.  Kaya naging all pumped up si Ray Allen.  Na-challenge siya!
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM
My hats off to Boston.

It was a heartbreaking loss indeed, but if the Lakers were to lose, then it would rather be to the season's best team.   

The Celtics played an almost perfect lockdown defense in the 2nd half.   This game ultimately proves that defense can win games and championships.  Thats why Phoenix fired D'Antoni.

Great job by Rivers.  He has totally outcoached Jackson.   Going small ball worked wonders for them.   And it is a blessing in disguise that Rondo and Perkins were hurt, Posey and House contributed a  lot.   Philjax countered late.  The damage has been done in the third.


I sound like Im conceding the title already.  I would like to be optimistic but cant.   Lakers can win 3 straight yes....but I dont see it against Boston, they are the better team so far.


kobelaat!!! ;D

Thanks for rubbing it in bro.
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Post by: john5479 on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Allen just blew by sasha in the closing seconds, you should see his face during the timeout.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I think Sasha taunted Ray Allen too much.  Kaya naging all pumped up si Ray Allen.  Na-challenge siya!

Chino Trinidad even said about Vujacic from "game 3 hero to game 4 goat". Something to that effect.  ;D
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Downhill na ang Lakers  ;D
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Allen just blew by sasha in the closing seconds, you should see his face during the timeout.

naiiyak na nga si sasha eh.. i'd give the MVP to Pierce.. Allen has been the most consistent and has held his own against Kobe but Pierce has the biggest impact every game..
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM
naiiyak na nga si sasha eh.. i'd give the MVP to Pierce.. Allen has been the most consistent and has held his own against Kobe but Pierce has the biggest impact every game..

Yup I think Pierce will win it too.  Ray Allen might be the most consistent but Pierce has the bigger impact.  Remember he was the one responsible for limiting Kobe throughout the series.
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:56 PM
I agree with you bored Pierce should be the Finals MVP. You really can't blame Lakers for this Boston really played a great 2nd half offensively and defensively. I considered this the best game this series so far.
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:57 PM
If LA loses on Game 5, do you think Kobe will cry again for a trade?  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Downhill na ang Lakers  ;D

This series, yes.   No one has come back from a 3-1 deficit in the Finals.   But they'll be legit contenders for years to come.   Looking at the bright side, at least the young Lakers got a lot of valuable play-off experience.     ;)  This will serve them in the future.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:58 PM
If LA loses on Game 5, do you think Kobe will cry again for a trade?  ;D

Only a fool would do that with this current Laker team.    ;)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:00 PM
I agree with you bored Pierce should be the Finals MVP. You really can't blame Lakers for this Boston really played a great 2nd half offensively and defensively. I considered this the best game this series so far.

Boston is really good.   I think assistant coach Tom Thibodeau should get coaching offers from other teams......he is the mastermind in their defensive schemes.   
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:06 PM
Only a fool would do that with this current Laker team.    ;)

I agree. Kobe still has 5-6 good years in his career. He can make a run for the championship on these years.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:08 PM
If LA loses on Game 5, do you think Kobe will cry again for a trade?  ;D

This is a good team for years to come.  Inexperience lang talaga by their bench players did them in.  Also they need Bynum.  Winnie Gasol needs to play the 4.  Dun papasa pa pagka-soft niya.  But he can't play the 5 playing like a winnie.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Boston is really good.   I think assistant coach Tom Thibodeau should get coaching offers from other teams......he is the mastermind in their defensive schemes.   

yeah, he would have been a perfect fit for Kerr's idea of a coach.. I don't think Kobe would ever ask for a trade again.. he still has Bynum next year.. if Bynum got to play in this series, they wouldn't have had match up problems with Pierce.. they would have been tougher defensively and on the boards.. so I think Kobe will settle for an MVP trophy and an olympic gold.. he'll get the ring next year..
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:14 PM
yeah, he would have been a perfect fit for Kerr's idea of a coach.. I don't think Kobe would ever ask for a trade again.. he still has Bynum next year.. if Bynum got to play in this series, they wouldn't have had match up problems with Pierce.. they would have been tougher defensively and on the boards.. so I think Kobe will settle for an MVP trophy and an olympic gold.. he'll get the ring next year..

I look at it this way.....if Bynum was in the NBA draft just this year, he will be the top pick.  Its like the Lakers getting the top pick after playing the Finals.   Thats why Odom looks expendable now.   I dont see him playing SF in a Bynum-Gasol frontcourt.

@Bored,

We're talking off-season na.   Time na ba to move on??  It aint over till the Jello's jiggling in the ref, but it doesnt look good now.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:19 PM
I look at it this way.....if Bynum was in the NBA draft just this year, he will be the top pick.  Its like the Lakers getting the top pick after playing the Finals.   Thats why Odom looks expendable now.   I dont see him playing SF in a Bynum-Gasol frontcourt.

@Bored,

We're talking off-season na.   Time na ba to move on??  It aint over till the Jello's jiggling in the ref, but it doesnt look good now.  ;D ;D ;D

a little reverse psychology, maybe?  ;D i'm conceding but deep inside i'm hoping for history in the making.. after all, I did say Games 6 & 7 are not necessary..

I wouldn't trade Odom just yet.. maybe mid-season.. just see how the Bynum-Gasol-Odom would turn out..
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Post by: Battousai on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:28 PM
Low expectations leading to this season, like what Bro Munskie said earlier (if I'm correct) in this thread, makes a probable LAkers Finals series loss bearable for me. ;D

But still...the series is not over until Boston wins another one....or the LAkers sweep the next three (enter Mission Impossible theme here).

Oh, and my LAkers choked in game 4; no excuse whatsoever.  ;D
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:33 PM
Virtually  it's all over for the Lakers pwera na lang talaga kung kabugin yung big 3 ng Celts on their last 3 games which is very impossible.

Lakers should remove Odom in their lineup, I think he is an overrated player.  I just don't believe that they can rely on him night in and night out whatever position he takes.
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Post by: -sniper- on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:36 PM
one to go! that was one hell of a game.

i love the double pump reverse lay-up of ray allen so much.  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Low expectations leading to this season, like what Bro Munskie said earlier (if I'm correct) in this thread, makes a probable LAkers Finals series loss bearable for me. ;D

Just imagine the Lakers if they gave in to Kobe's trade demands  ;)


Basketball gods dont give (Pau, internal improvement) it all in one season.   

Well, the gods is about to give it to the Celts, the Big Three has endured a lot, they deserve it.   For their career, and for playing very well this season.

 ;)
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:40 PM
Well, the gods is about to give it to the Celts, the Big Three has endured a lot, they deserve it.   For their career, and for playing very well this season.

 ;)

Sana lang huwag naman sumobrang yabang sina Pierce at KG pag nagkataon.  ;D
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Post by: Battousai on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:40 PM
The Celtics deserve a break after the spate of bad luck that hounded them (Reggie Lewis' death, Rick Pittino, Antoine Walker, Pierce's stabbing etc.) and what fitting way to win another one than against the Lakers. Argh! 3 wins na lang champion na LAkers. Hehehe ;)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:41 PM
I think LA should keep Odom.  When Bynum gets back...no team in the NBA can boast that the Lakers 4th best player or 4th option on offense, is as good as Odom.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Lakers should remove Odom in their lineup, I think he is an overrated player.  I just don't believe that they can rely on him night in and night out whatever position he takes.

 Inconsistent.   Alanganin talaga sya.   He's versatile yes, but he's not a reliable outside shooter, and he's not reliable as a post-up man too.   So, you dont exactly know what you get from him in a game.  What the Lakers get from him though is rebounding, but with Gasol playing PF next year, playing SF would be a tough proposition for him, especially in today's NBA were small ball rules.

I think LA should keep Odom.  When Bynum gets back...no team in the NBA can boast that the Lakers 4th best player or 4th option on offense, is as good as Odom.

Im ok with it.  If he doesnt demand too much in his contract renewal.   And he agrees to come off the bench.   It will a good three man rotation in the 4 and 5 spot.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:52 PM
I think LA needs a more reliable 3.. Radmanovic really isn't.. Ariza can be but more on the defensive side.. Walton's too inconsistent.. if Odom can adjust well playing at 3, LA will be better off keeping him..
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:54 PM
The Celtics deserve a break after the spate of bad luck that hounded them (Reggie Lewis' death, Rick Pittino, Antoine Walker, Pierce's stabbing etc.) and what fitting way to win another one than against the Lakers. Argh! 3 wins na lang champion na LAkers. Hehehe ;)

Yan ang mahirap to lower expectations di ba??  Ako nagawa ko, yung mga barkada ko na die-hard Lakers hindi....kasi raw, andito na raw sila.   Baka raw hindi na mangyari ulit. (injuries, bad luck, trades etc)

Feel ko kasi, this Laker season its too good to be true eh.   Everything that has happened to the Lakers so far this season has ups and downs...extreme pa.

1.  Kobe Demand Trade somehow resulted in internal improvement especially Bynum.
2.   Bynum went down, and it triggered the trade for Gasol.
3.  REaching Finals......then probable loss.




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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:59 PM
I think LA needs a more reliable 3.. Radmanovic really isn't.. Ariza can be but more on the defensive side.. Walton's too inconsistent.. if Odom can adjust well playing at 3, LA will be better off keeping him..

I'm not sure if the numbers will work, but what about Shawn Marion?  Nangangarap lang...  ;D
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 01:59 PM
actually I did have low expectations going into this series.. I even just really started following every Laker game this season after they got Pau.. but watching how they finished the regular season and how they played in the playoffs, you can't help but get your hopes up.. they really had a chance.. even after the 1st half of today's game I thought they could actually win this series.. but, crash! damn, celtics!  ;D but it has been a great year for a Laker fan..
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:03 PM


Thanks for rubbing it in bro.

sorry bro.  just couldnt resist eh, but i admit that was way too LOW. :-[ :D
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:04 PM
I'm not sure if the numbers will work, but what about Shawn Marion?  Nangangarap lang...  ;D

Oh that won't work.  by leaving Phoenix...Marion has proven that it's more important for him to be THE MAN and get paid than staying on a winning environment.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:06 PM
I'm not sure if the numbers will work, but what about Shawn Marion?  Nangangarap lang...  ;D

Theres a $3M difference......Marion for Odom pwede.....they can even throw in Radma/Walton  there.    ;D ;D ;D


Hehehe, napansin ko, parang Laker thread na to.    Thats why lost of people are anti-Lakers.  ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:08 PM
sorry bro.  just couldnt resist eh, but i admit that was way too LOW. :-[ :D

Im ok now.  I could have just ignored it.  Just frustrated with the loss.   Who wouldnt if yer a Laker fan?    :)



On a sidenote, I told myself right after the loss, that I would go off-line for a while, and just watch movies or play PS3.  BUt PinoyDVD is very good for therapy!!!   See......moving on isnt hard to do  ;D ;D ;D ;D 

Even if it aint a good sports day.  (Tiger shot 1 over in US Open, the Laker loss.........puyat pa)

PAMASAHE NGA MAMAYA  :-*
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Hehehe, napansin ko, parang Laker thread na to.    Thats why lost of people are anti-Lakers.  ;D ;D

I'm anti-Lakers too but a big fan of basketball.  ;D  :D  :P

Marion for Odom? Baka marami na naman mag-react nyan katulad ng Gasol trade. I don't think it will happen kaya nga na-trade si Odom from Miami to Lakers because they don't beleive in him. Besides, Marion is wayyyy far better than Odom in terms of basketball skills.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:13 PM
yeah, i agree Marion prefers to be the main man on his team and get paid big bucks than win a championship.. looking at the free agent pool, only Jamison and Arenas are the big names.. they would probably resign with the Wizards..

one thing I like about Odom though is that he has no attitude problems.. he'll accept whatever you ask of him, he just doesn't deliver often.. in a team with Kobe in the line-up, having a player like Marion wouldn't be good..
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Im ok now.  I could have just ignored it.  Just frustrated with the loss.   Who wouldnt if yer a Laker fan?    :)

I know how you feel sir. Isang tulog lang yan mamaya wala na yan. Kaso ang hirap matulog kapag ganyan.  :D :D :D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:19 PM
I'm anti-Lakers too but a big fan of basketball.  ;D  :D  :P

All for basketball.  I must admit, contra-Ginebra naman ako.   I hate Jaworski.   So nakaka relate ako sa anti-Lakers or anti-Kobe.    ;D ;D

But PBA isnt good in the eyes na.   Buhat nung NBA ruled local TV, it was downhill na in ratings ang PBA.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:24 PM
All for basketball.  I must admit, contra-Ginebra naman ako.   I hate Jaworski.   So nakaka relate ako sa anti-Lakers or anti-Kobe.    ;D ;D

But PBA isnt good in the eyes na.   Buhat nung NBA ruled local TV, it was downhill na in ratings ang PBA.

hey, same here.. Ginebra hater as well.. but a big basketball fan.. I was frustrated with the loss as well but it was a great game.. my 2 hours+ wasn't really wasted.. it just hurt a bit..  :'(
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:43 PM
yeah, i agree Marion prefers to be the main man on his team and get paid big bucks than win a championship.. looking at the free agent pool, only Jamison and Arenas are the big names.. they would probably resign with the Wizards..

I think it was reported already that Arenas won't resign with the Wizards.

All for basketball.  I must admit, contra-Ginebra naman ako.   I hate Jaworski.   So nakaka relate ako sa anti-Lakers or anti-Kobe.    ;D ;D

What the? I don't agree with your comparison here. I'm a Ginebra fan but a Laker/Kobe hater  :P
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:46 PM
It ain't over till it's over, right?
We'll see in game 5 how the Lakers surpass this seemingly insurmountable mountain named Celtics. ;)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:49 PM
What the? I don't agree with your comparison here. I'm a Ginebra fan but a Laker/Kobe hater  :P

I wasnt comparing.   I was just trying to explain the feeling of being "anti" to a certain team. 

Did I make a generalized statement?  ::)
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 13, 2008 at 02:56 PM
I wasnt comparing.   I was just trying to explain the feeling of being "anti" to a certain team.

Noted then  ;)  Anyway, I think this'll be a busy offseason.

BTW, ever thought of who will win with a Celtics-Spurs matchup? I know, I know Lakers have beaten the Spurs, and the Celtics are about to beat the Lakers. Just playing in my mind  ::)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 03:02 PM

BTW, ever thought of who will win with a Celtics-Spurs matchup? I know, I know Lakers have beaten the Spurs, and the Celtics are about to beat the Lakers. Just playing in my mind  ::)

Difficult to tell coz certain  teams do match-up differently with other teams.

But I just dont see the Spurs being successful offensively against a great Boston D.    Kung Spurs nahirapan sa Laker D...ano pa kaya sa BOston D.   Nagkakaroon kasi ng scoring droughts ang Spurs.....oh well, Boston has been doing that for a season sa mga opponent nila...

 ;)
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 03:05 PM
  Anyway, I think this'll be a busy offseason.


If the other East teams dont reload....expect to see Celtics contend in the East again.  Unless they drown themselves with success.....well thats another matter anyway.
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Post by: sardaukar on Jun 13, 2008 at 04:27 PM
I think it was reported already that Arenas won't resign with the Wizards.


Last I read Arenas will stay if they also re-sign Jamison. Unless your news is more recent.
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Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 13, 2008 at 04:34 PM
Munskie -- parehas tayo I told myself to stay away from ESPN and this thread to stay away from the big Lakers collapse. But the thread is too tempting to ignore. Ako din emdyo concede na sa series na ito.

Lakers have 2-3 year window to win it all. With the current line up they can come back here next year. Great learning season for the team -- especially in the Finals. You have to remember that only Kobe and Fisher has been here before (tama ba?). So as a Laker (or Kobe) fan, you have to be optimistic.

Let's go SUNS!

Arenas won't re-sign if the Wiz don't re-sign Jamison. But I think they need more than that to be able to get over the hump in the East. This was almost the same line up where they stretched the Cavs. But this year the Cavs was not even in the East Finals. Plus a lot of East teams are going to be better (Bulls, Heat, Atanta)...their current roster will be a playoff team but not a championship team.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 05:47 PM
I think it was reported already that Arenas won't resign with the Wizards.

What the? I don't agree with your comparison here. I'm a Ginebra fan but a Laker/Kobe hater  :P

Last I heard is that Arenas opted out of his current contract.  But it doesn't necessarily mean he will not re-sign with the wizards.
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Post by: DaSilva on Jun 13, 2008 at 06:11 PM
mga kaibigan

meron po tayong off-season thread  :)

hindi pa po tapos ang season na ito  :)

kahit hindi pa nagpapakita ang lakers  :(
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 13, 2008 at 06:16 PM
Di pa naman off-season di ba?
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 13, 2008 at 07:22 PM
What went wrong Lakers? Not enough food? Sleep?
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 07:29 PM
mga kaibigan

meron po tayong off-season thread  :)

hindi pa po tapos ang season na ito  :)

kahit hindi pa nagpapakita ang lakers  :(

hehe sorry sir......ako pa naman nagcreate ng off-season thread....just cant help it.    Anti-depressant and pagpopost eh... ;D ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2008 at 07:44 PM
What went wrong Lakers? Not enough food? Sleep?

Oh well, hirap talaga Lakers.    They just dont match up well with Boston.   Contrapelo nila  ang Celtics.

Anyway, nine out of ten ESPN experts picked the Lakers to win it.   And they could all be wrong soon.   Sa Lakerground.net, some are optimistic and some are conceding na...........Im leaning on the latter. 

I dont have to admit that Boston is the better team so far.....its pretty obvious.     
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 13, 2008 at 09:00 PM
you suck kobe!!!! hahaha.... he's probably gonna stay away from downtown LA for awhile.... hehe joke lang.... ;D

its all about matchups, i think the spurs would have had a better chance against the celtics, and detroit would have probably beaten LA but not the spurs.

next year... look for alot of big name trades to happen... i think odom is gone... rasheed is gone... maybe even fisher & billups, the suns, mavs, cavs, denver (with camby, martin, anthony and iverson) have to shake things up also

i hope atlanta moves up next year.... very exciting team to watch. all the teams will be forming line-ups to beat boston. unless KB24 averages 120ppg in 3 straight games, this series is over.
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Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Detriot beating LA?  Spurs beating the Celtics?  Please...  :o

Kaya pa yan... although I can't help feeling happy for KG and Pierce, if ever they win!

Regarding offseason trades or targets for the Lakers, there's Billups and Prince (who I think both comes from LA)... tanggapin kaya nila si Odom?  heheh
There's Elton Brand... who can play PF with Gasol sliding to SF.. (sabi nya SF daw siya dati sa Europe eh)..

At any rate, with the success of both Boston and the Lakers... many team will try to improve via trades.  So, I'm expecting a very busy offseason.

Go Lakers!!!
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Post by: DaSilva on Jun 14, 2008 at 08:55 AM
interesting analysis of the mvp...
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2f0aqo1.jpg)
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Post by: JT on Jun 14, 2008 at 09:45 AM
All for basketball.  I must admit, contra-Ginebra naman ako.   I hate Jaworski.   So nakaka relate ako sa anti-Lakers or anti-Kobe.    ;D ;D

Speaking of Ginebra, its the only team I know who manage to come back and win from the 3-1 deficit in the finals. I dont think Lakers has the same tenacity and determination ...


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Post by: dyerds on Jun 14, 2008 at 11:10 AM
OT: Ginebra! Ginebra!  :D I was a big fan of this team.  ;D

Anyway, DaSilva nice review on Kobe.  :D 

Wouldn't it be great if the series goes to 7, don't you think?

 
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 14, 2008 at 11:14 AM
interesting analysis of the mvp...
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2f0aqo1.jpg)


that last quote on the red side is the very reason why im still in the anti-kobe faction.
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Post by: sardaukar on Jun 15, 2008 at 01:51 PM
May isa pa palang hirit, si Chino naman. Sabi niya Kobe and Pierce are going mano y mano. Sweet naman nila. ;D

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Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 15, 2008 at 03:14 PM
From someone who admires Kobe as a basketball player:
What you said is the very reason why I believe that you would never be a Kobe fan even if he averages 20 assists per game while not taking any field goal attempt.

that last quote on the red side is the very reason why im still in the anti-kobe faction.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 16, 2008 at 07:38 AM
Game 5.. Malapit na.. Close it out!!  ;D
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Post by: Wiggum on Jun 16, 2008 at 07:56 AM
"... I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.  A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.  An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this dayThis day we fight!"

Pinalabas kasi ROTK last night ;D 

Lakers pa rin!!!

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Post by: dyerds on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:16 AM
May bukas pa ba ang Lakers? Abangan... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:18 AM
Game time.. Leon Powe started replacing the injured Perkins..
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:27 AM
Lakers with a great start.. Just like how they started on Game 4..
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:29 AM
...I believe that you would never be a Kobe fan...


right on the head bro.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 16, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Lakers lead 55-52 in the halftime..
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 16, 2008 at 10:28 AM
That was a big 3 from Pierce. Why do I have a feeling that Boston is gonna get it today?  ::) ::) ::) Lakers! Wake up! Give us a game 6!  ;D
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 16, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Wow, both teams playing small ball...
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM
CRUNCH TIME! 91-92 lakers lead as 0f 3:54! :o

anyone's game!
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Post by: ruth2art on Jun 16, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Two (US Open & NBA) nerve-wracking finishes in one day. TUBIG!!!!!!
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 16, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Looks like the celebration is in Boston  ;D
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 16, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Lakers hanging on for the win.. The series returns to Boston where the championship will be sweeter..
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 16, 2008 at 12:29 PM
it was obvious the lakers would bag game 5 from a strategic pov.  now, the kid gloves are off for game 6.
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Post by: STRIKER on Jun 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM
yes, it was like boston was just playing backyard basketball kaya medyo obvious na they want to bring it back home.

At least we have ONE more game to enjoy!!!  ;D
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 16, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Yup! There is a game 6!  ;D I think Boston did make an effort to win todays game but on the back of their head they still have two games in their turf to win it.
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Post by: Marl☆1 on Jun 16, 2008 at 01:41 PM
Congrats to LA, but they do have major tweaks to do to avoid from collapsing in the next game.  Otherwise Boston's celeb is imminent.  It should be a good one.  ;)
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Post by: a2 on Jun 16, 2008 at 02:09 PM
i think sa defense talaga kailangan ng major adjustments ang lakers. hirap talaga sila sa pick & roll. saka more intensity and hustle pa sana.

one game at a time. i still believe. let's go lakers!!
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Post by: mattia on Jun 16, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Boston's defense is really something to marvel at.  Tom Thibodeau (Celtics' defensive coach) is credited for transforming
the Celtics into a defensive force.  They literally shut down scorers to make easy baskets.  This the same defense that forced Lebron to shoot bricks in their series.  I think Boston's defensive alignment takes away the money shots --- layups and 3-point shots. Teams are forced to shoot long 2s -- like what happened to LA in Games 1&2.  They literally defend the paint like a wall against scorers like Kobe and Lebron.
 
Phil Jackson has countered with better spacing. This helped Kobe pick good spots for his shots and pass to open players. Problema dito pag di gumana si Kobe at yun iba.  If LA wants to beat Boston on the road, the second unit like Farmar, Sasha, Walton must make open shots.  Kobe can't do it alone. 

Game 6 is an interesting one.  Yes, it's a must win for LA to stay alive.  But, IT'S ALSO A MUST WIN for Boston.  Should they lose Game 6, geez, imagine the pressure it will give them.  So it's either Boston in Game 6 or else, it's gonna be LA in 7. 

Boston gunning for their 1st ever championship in more than 20 years.  LA going for a first ever comeback from a 3-1 deficit.  Is it gonna be History or Hollywood in the making?
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Post by: Battousai on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:40 PM
This the same defense that forced Lebron to shoot bricks in their series. 

Boston's D is good, no doubt about it; but Lebron's not really known as a shooter and bricks a lot fo his outside shots (weakest point of his game IMHO).

Boston's gonna crap in their pants if they lose game 6.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:45 PM
Boston's D is good, no doubt about it; but Lebron's not really known as a shooter and bricks a lot fo his outside shots (weakest point of his game IMHO).

Boston's gonna crap in their pants if they lose game 6.

I think game 6 is gonna be it.  But in the event that they lose, i don't think they will just fold up.  They have been in elimination games before and have thrived.  The Lakers are far more prone to pressure showing their inexperience in the finals.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 17, 2008 at 02:11 PM
Tahimik ang thread ah.......ano ba meron??   Meron ba game bukas??   (my own style....reverse jinxing)  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: mattia on Jun 17, 2008 at 05:08 PM
9 am.  Ready nyo na mga popcorn nyo dudes.  It's the NBA's version of Crispa Toyota.  Credit David Stern for successfully bringing back the rivalry and thus, making more moolah for the NBA.  MVP si David Stern!
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 17, 2008 at 05:23 PM
hahahaha

Boston playing backyard basketball just so they can bring it back home?

I don't think they are THAT GOOD and THAT ARROGANT. Even the 72-10 Chicago Bulls didn't mind winning on the road. You close out on the road or at home. It doesnt matter where.
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Post by: STRIKER on Jun 17, 2008 at 05:52 PM
hahahaha

Boston playing backyard basketball just so they can bring it back home?

I don't think they are THAT GOOD and THAT ARROGANT. Even the 72-10 Chicago Bulls didn't mind winning on the road. You close out on the road or at home. It doesnt matter where.

yes you have a point there but, keep in mind that the jordan may have had many rings on his fingers at that time. its just that the championship celebration is sweet the first time, and much much sweeter when attained at home.
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Post by: dmaximus on Jun 17, 2008 at 08:35 PM
yes you have a point there but, keep in mind that the jordan may have had many rings on his fingers at that time. its just that the championship celebration is sweet the first time, and much much sweeter when attained at home.

its such a cliche to say that pinatalo nila talaga yung game 5 to celebrate it at home. they always say that. not to mention "to sell more tickets". haha. i don't think theres an organization in the NBA dumb enough to gumble.  ;)
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 17, 2008 at 08:49 PM
I'm hoping for a close out tomorrow.. The Celtics can't afford a game 7 against Kobe and the Lakers..
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Post by: sardaukar on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:25 PM
its just that the championship celebration is sweet the first time, and much much sweeter when attained at home.

While that part may be true, no team will purposely lose a game and risk losing the championship altogether, just so they can win at home. Because they can never be 100% sure they can win at home, so why take the chance.
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Post by: Ctlim on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:31 PM
^^^ bottom line, if you're playing for the NBA Championship, don't you think every player and coach dreams of a sweep? Why take a chance by purposely losing a game just to win it back home? (thats just pure stupidity)

its not as if the Celtics are up against the Angola National Team, its the LA Lakers with Kobe Bryant.
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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:54 PM
the Celtics were down 19 after the 1st Quarter of game 5 but came back and were down only by 3 at the half.. they were down by 14 early in the 4th but came back and had a chance to tie with less than a minute to go.. if that was the Celtics purposely losing a game, even 100 points from Kobe won't help LA..
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 17, 2008 at 09:57 PM
The Celtics tried to close it out in game 5.   No professional team in the verge of bagging an elusive crown will pull back their punches just so they could celebrate at home.   They know you give the opposing team hope, and then, they start to believe.

They start to believe, then the Mount Everest the Lakers have to climb isnt as hard to climb as it used to be.

For me, I still dont like the Laker's chances in game 6.   But an "upset special" is always a possibility.   "Bilog and bola" sabi nga dito sa atin.  ;)
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 18, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Well, Today is a GREEN DAY  ;D
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:11 AM
Game time..Let's close it out! Let's go!!!
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:24 AM
But an "upset special" is always a possibility.   "Bilog and bola" sabi nga dito sa atin.  ;)

so true.  as much as i want the celtics to win, nothing is definite until it's over.
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Celtics lead 58-35 in the halftime..
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Boston is eating the Lakers alive!  ;D
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Post by: RNIverson on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Hope Boston already learned their lesson from Game 2...
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:34 AM
After halftime...looks like the Lakers won't win any game in Boston this whole season.  Yes that's 0.
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:53 AM
At half-time,

FG:
Lakers - 8-27
Celtics - 20-43
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Post by: dyerds on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I don't think that Lakers can get back in this game. It's very obvious that Boston is going to win it today.  ;D Congrats to all Boston fans!!!!!  ;D
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:16 AM
I don't think that Lakers can get back in this game. It's very obvious that Boston is going to win it today.  ;D Congrats to all Boston fans!!!!!  ;D

Yep.   Just shows whois the better team all season long.   I tip my hat to them, they really deserve this one.   Great to see KG, Pierce and Allen win one.   

As a Laker fan, all is good.   The opportunity was there to win it all, but for me, it doesnt take away the gains (internal improvement, Gasol) made in the season.   Just hoping this game 6 drubbing will motivate the young Lakers to work harder in the off-season, and for Laker management to look for some needed tweaks in the roster.    ;)
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:17 AM
84-54. 

grabe.
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Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:20 AM
KG is Angry! GARNET SMASH!  ;D
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:23 AM
End of 3rd quarter.. 12 more minutes for the championship..
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Post by: skylynx888 on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Its Boston vs PBA  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:31 AM
I wonder who's MVP. Is it possible to give to 3 players?
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:32 AM
I wonder who's MVP. Is it possible to give to 3 players?

I think it will be Pierce.
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Post by: STRIKER on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM
dumb enough? pulling back their punches?

are you watching the same series? or just never say die laker fans? i respect your opinions coz people will always believe what they wat to believe.

they are just too good for the lakers... to pullack punches, make the series one game longer. by regulation of game 5 they had a feel or enough confidence to know how much a threat the lakers are.

yes, bilog ang bola pero they knew the risks and obiously it was a low risk move.
 
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:43 AM
This is a blow out.. I didn't expect this foreboding win in such fashion..
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM
guess kobe will have to contend with that monkey on his back for at least another year.
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:48 AM
dumb enough? pulling back their punches?

are you watching the same series? or just never say die laker fans? i respect your opinions coz i believe people will always believe what they wat to believe.

they are just too good for the lakers... to pullack punches, make the series one game longer. by regulation of game 5 they had a feel or enough confidence to know how much a threat the lakers are.

yes, bilog ang bola pero they knew the risks and obiously it was a low risk move.
 

Then can you tell me how the Celtics played backyard basketball in game 5 just to extend it for game 6 and celebrate at home?  Any instances, or any play?   The fact is, they really tried to close it out.  

Yes, Im a Laker fan, and Im watching the same series, but Im not dumb enough not to admit that the Boston is the better team.  Yes, Boston was the better team than my beloved Lakers.  

But to say that Boston purposedly lost game 5 just to win and celebrate it at home, thats arrogance.  Not by the Boston team, but by the fan who think of that notion.  



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Post by: throwbackchampion on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:51 AM
BOSTON CELTICS 2008 NBA Champions!

laki ng tambak sorry LAKERS fans! kahit taga LA ako.  :D
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Post by: Battousai on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:52 AM
It's like slapping the face of every Celtic player and coach who won a championship when you say that the Celtics tanked game 5 to win at home. No team would want to give an opponent a victory that would lessen their chances of winning the series.
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Post by: -sniper- on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:54 AM


BOSTON in six. :)

i was right!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Go Boston... I think final score na lang ang pinag uusapan!!!
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Post by: Munskie on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM
BOSTON CELTICS 2008 NBA Champions!

laki ng tambak sorry LAKERS fans! kahit taga LA ako.  :D

Congrats to the Boston Celtics!!!  They deserve it.     No.1 in regular season, no. 1 in play-offs.


It has been a great season, and there's also a huge improvement in activity in the thread.   As your thread starter, I want to share that last season's thread was doubled this season.   Iba talaga pag contention ang Celtics at Lakers.  ;D ;D    
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Post by: kristerocky on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Celtics vs Lakers sa finals..
Celtics emerging as champs.. ;D

NAGKATOTOO NA NGA!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: STRIKER on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Then can you tell me how the Celtics played backyard basketball in game 5 just to extend it for game 6 and celebrate at home?  Any instances, or any play?   The fact is, they really tried to close it out.  

Yes, Im a Laker fan, and Im watching the same series, but Im not dumb enough not to admit that the Boston is the better team.  Yes, Boston was the better team than my beloved Lakers.  

But to say that Boston purposedly lost game 5 just to win and celebrate it at home, thats arrogance.  Not by the Boston team, but by the fan who think of that notion.  







you could be right... arrogance by a fan or maybe sour graping by a laker fan.

2 sides to a coin bro!
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: kristerocky on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:04 PM
How sweet it is!!!  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: RNIverson on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Iba talaga celebration pag first timers  :D

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7124/28ded6d4066049f0905bfcexy9.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: kristerocky on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Congratulations!!!

Paul Pierce

2008 NBA Finals MVP.. ;D
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: throwbackchampion on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:24 PM
2008 FINALS MVP
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4533/ppio2.jpg) (http://throwbackchampion.blogspot.com)

Congrats Boston Celtics!
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Ashburndaride on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:25 PM
(http://usera.imagecave.com/ashburndaride/KOBULOWNED.jpg)
 ;D       ;D      ;D
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:29 PM
(http://usera.imagecave.com/ashburndaride/KOBULOWNED.jpg)
 ;D       ;D      ;D

priceless ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Wiggum on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Congrats to Boston.  Well-deserved.  What's the contract situation with the Celtics - are they in a position to keep this team intact for another run next year and so on?

Nice run this year by LA, but it was definitely Boston's season from the very start with the KG and Ray Allen deals.  With (hopefully) a healthy Bynum next year, I think LA should keep its roster intact (except for Radmanovic at least).  They shouldn't evaluate the team based solely on how it fared in the Finals, although this match-up with Boston really showed a lot of flaws in the team's make-up.  Lakers pa rin!  :)



Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: mattia on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:09 PM
priceless ;D ;D ;D

LA looked like the Laguna Lakers earlier.  Geez!  Well, let's give it to Boston.  They deserved to win.  Given their lineup, they were expected to win.  I rooted for LA but they were simply overpowered by the C's.  Meron pang daga
yung mga bata ni Kobe.  LA needs to play more games.  The only cure for them is Repetition!  LA has to Play through
more games like these to gain POISE especially in the closing minutes.
 
Looking ahead it seems mas tatagal 'tong Lakers team kaysa sa Celtics.  There are only 2 players over 30 in the Lakers team (Fisher and Newble).  Puro bata pa 'to. Kobe is what, turning 30 next month.
 
However, with their lineup now, here is LA's dilemma: Gasol can't defend the paint; Odom is inconsistent;
Bynum does not have an offensive game. 
 
They cannot play those three at the same time!  There are rumours that LA will
trade Bynum or Odom for a big-time swingman: Luol Deng?? Who knows,
Mitch Kupchack might steal another player without giving up a starter.

Right now, let's cheer for the new champs, Boston.  At least East naman,  and after 20 years!  How sweet it is talaga.  As for the Lakers, they need to regroup, maybe enhance their lineup para naman di mukhang Laguna Lakers pag championship!!
 
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:17 PM
LA looked like the Laguna Lakers earlier.  Geez!  Well, let's give it to Boston.  They deserved to win.  Given their lineup, they were expected to win.  I rooted for LA but they were simply overpowered by the C's. 

Actually the C's weren't expected to win by the majority.  9 out of 10 predicted the Lakers to win...mostly 4-1 and some 4-2.
 
Right now, let's cheer for the new champs, Boston.  At least East naman,  and after 20 years!  How sweet it is talaga.

Actually an East team won the title just two years ago which is the Miami Heat.
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: xage on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:31 PM
June 17 , 2008 - Boston's 17th NBA title

17+17 = 34 (NBA FINALS MVP - Paul Pierce's Jersey)
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: mattia on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:38 PM
Actually the C's weren't expected to win by the majority.  9 out of 10 predicted the Lakers to win...mostly 4-1 and some 4-2.
 
Actually an East team won the title just two years ago which is the Miami Heat.

Oh sorry what I meant was, 20 years ++ for a Boston championship to happen. The East saw two teams winning recently -- Detroit and Miami.

My prediction was correct too 4-2 unfortunately it went to Boston.  He he. 
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: STRIKER on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Iba talaga celebration pag first timers  :D

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7124/28ded6d4066049f0905bfcexy9.jpg)

totoo yan .. iba talaga lalo na kapag nasa HOME COURT !!

Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 18, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Oh sorry what I meant was, 20 years ++ for a Boston championship to happen. The East saw two teams winning recently -- Detroit and Miami.

My prediction was correct too 4-2 unfortunately it went to Boston.  He he. 

Oh ok.  Sorry I misread...hehehe!  Don't worry.  Let us Celtics fans enjoy this one.  When Bynum gets back, the Lakers can start their own three-peat starting next year!  So let the Celtics get this one first.   ;D
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: bono on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:17 PM
congrats to celtics.  :)
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: dyerds on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:21 PM
At the start of the season I doubted Boston to win the championship because it includes Pierce, KG and Allen (3 of the biggest losers in NBA before they became champs)  ;D but they proved today that they have what it takes to be champs.  ;D Congrats to all Boston fans!  ;D

However, with their lineup now, here is LA's dilemma: Gasol can't defend the paint; Odom is inconsistent;
Bynum does not have an offensive game. 
 
They cannot play those three at the same time!  There are rumours that LA will
trade Bynum or Odom for a big-time swingman: Luol Deng?? Who knows,
Mitch Kupchack might steal another player without giving up a starter.


LA was really no match to Boston  eventhough they won 2 games. This is the reason why I believe that LA is the underdog in this series. I also believe that even with Bynum around they don't stand a chance of beating Boston. They can give Boston some headaches but because of those reasons above they really won't win it. I think Lakers needs 2 more years to become a real championship contender. Another thing, if Lakers' mgt is really serious of getting a ring they need to remove Odom and Radmanovic in their roster. IMO.  ;D

See you next season. Go Spurs!!!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Marl☆1 on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:07 PM
(http://www.nba.com/media/finals2008/doccigar_587_080617.jpg)
Congrats to Doc and the beantown boys!  ;)
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 18, 2008 at 06:23 PM
and with that, we go to the off season thread...
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: a2 on Jun 18, 2008 at 07:37 PM
congrats sa boston. they were the better and hungrier team.

looking forward to a better laker team next season. :)
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: blackie on Jun 18, 2008 at 08:57 PM
Congrats Boston Fans ;D

Well deserved victory!
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM
im a lakers fan kaya nakakalungkot  :( ,buti may pasok sa work kaya walang drinking session.

congrats sa celtics, kevin top of the world baby ;)
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Congrats to Boston and some of its classy fans... as for the rest, its quite understandable coz they haven't had practice the last ten years or so.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Wiggum on Jun 19, 2008 at 07:17 AM
Congrats to Boston and some of its classy fans... as for the rest, its quite understandable coz they haven't had practice the last ten years or so.  ;)

Nice one he he..  :) 

Somewhere out there, Kwame Brown must also be grinning from ear to ear..

Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: kimpOy on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:10 AM
kwame brown? i doubt the lakers will gone far with kwame on board how will be grinning he's contract is up and nobody would take him, grizz are selling their team that's why they went for the trade, its easier to sell a under the cap team rather than over.

Title: Re: NBA 07-08 Season on BTV/ESPNSTAR/CS--PLAY-OFFS NA!!
Post by: Wiggum on Jun 19, 2008 at 08:56 AM
kwame brown? i doubt the lakers will gone far with kwame on board how will be grinning he's contract is up and nobody would take him, grizz are selling their team that's why they went for the trade, its easier to sell a under the cap team rather than over.


I was just making fun of the likelihood that Kwame Brown, after being dumped by LA, is reveling along with some Boston fans and feasting off the Lakers' misfortunes.  ;)
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Post by: John E. on Jun 19, 2008 at 09:02 AM
(http://usera.imagecave.com/ashburndaride/KOBULOWNED.jpg)
 ;D       ;D      ;D

nice! and also true.