Topic: OPPO DV983H

[streetsmart]

This sounds really interesting. I don't know if anyone has done something similar in this forum - blind test for deinterlacing/upscaling.

Paul will have to help me to develop the procedures! 

We should try to make it as scientific as possible. Offhand, we need to adjust brightness and contrast (and maybe color and hue) for each player.

We also need big black blindfolds. 

[pchin]

Paul will have to help me to develop the procedures! 

Sure Mark, the HQV Benchmark DVD will be ideal tool to test those video scaler in the DVD Players through a set grueling video obstacle course.

"The video clips and test patterns on this DVD have been specifically designed to evaluate a variety of interlaced video signal processing tasks including decoding, de-interlacing, motion correction, noise reduction, film cadence detection, and detail enhancement. The ultimate quality of the images that you watch is limited by any, and all of these factors. Only the rarest video processor inside certain players can handle all of these tasks successfully!"

[zedric]

I have the Oppo 983
Mark has the HD-A35
Who can lend the Pioneer 600?

Will be great to do a shoot out comparison!

mga sir meron po ako, pio 600 na puwedeng magamit
kung puwede pong sumama sana,
im using the pio600 to project sa optoma hd70.
hope i could also bring the projector to see the the difference. alam ko kasi may macroblocking issues when using fajuoda chips with dlp projectors like the optoma hd70

thanks and hope to meet the gurus of pdvd

[streetsmart]

mga sir meron po ako, pio 600 na puwedeng magamit
kung puwede pong sumama sana,
im using the pio600 to project sa optoma hd70.
hope i could also bring the projector to see the the difference. alam ko kasi may macroblocking issues when using fajuoda chips with dlp projectors like the optoma hd70

thanks and hope to meet the gurus of pdvd

I have a pio 696. Should be the same as the pio 600.

It will be complicated to test the optoma hd70 at the same time as we test several dvd players. We can do that another time.

In any case, you can join the shoot-out. The more the better! 

[streetsmart]

Sure Mark, the HQV Benchmark DVD will be ideal tool to test those video scaler in the DVD Players through a set grueling video obstacle course.

"The video clips and test patterns on this DVD have been specifically designed to evaluate a variety of interlaced video signal processing tasks including decoding, de-interlacing, motion correction, noise reduction, film cadence detection, and detail enhancement. The ultimate quality of the images that you watch is limited by any, and all of these factors. Only the rarest video processor inside certain players can handle all of these tasks successfully!"

Oh ... Sounds really fun!!! 

Having said that, let's do this as scientifically as possible (dami limitations syempre) and as simple as can be so that everyone understands it! 

[danrd]

This project will definitely reveal the pros and cons of all our most chosen dvd players. Goodluck guys and hope you could examine them tediously. 

[streetsmart]

These are the comparisons I want to make:

1. Pio 696 direct to pj vs. Pio 696 through Denon 2808
2. Oppo 983 vs Pio 696 through VP50Pro
3. Oppo 983 vs Pio 696 through Denon 2808
4. Toshiba HD-A35 vs. Oppo 983

I understand that the Pio 696 is equivalent to the Pio 600 sa video processing. Actually, I also have a Panny BD-30 and a Sony DVD upscaler but I think that few people are interested in these.

Any suggestions on other comparisons? Any suggestions on procedures?

I would like to invite a minimum of 5, maximum of 15  Pinoydvd addicts to participate in the shoot-out. Blind test. We will post detailed results.

[barrister]

How about this:

REFERENCE: VP50PRO  (Pio 696 set at 480i for a pure standard signal, to VP50PRO, to display).

COMPARE WITH:

1. Direct to display:  Pio 696 vs Oppo 983 vs Tosh A35; vs.:
2. Through Denon 2808:  Pio 696 vs Oppo 983; vs.:
3. Through VP50PRO: Pio 696 vs Oppo 983.

[streetsmart]

How about this:

REFERENCE: VP50PRO  (Pio 696 set at 480i for a pure standard signal, to VP50PRO, to display).

COMPARE WITH:

1. Direct to display:  Pio 696 vs Oppo 983 vs Tosh A35; vs.:
2. Through Denon 2808:  Pio 696 vs Oppo 983; vs.:
3. Through VP50PRO: Pio 696 vs Oppo 983.

Baka matagal masyado. I estimate that each comparison will take around 10 minutes. Baka mainip at maduling ang tao.

Having said that, let's see what others say.

[Munskie]

How about this:

REFERENCE: VP50PRO  (Pio 696 set at 480i for a pure standard signal, to VP50PRO, to display).

COMPARE WITH:

1. Direct to display:  Pio 696 vs Oppo 983 vs Tosh A35; vs.:
2. Through Denon 2808:  Pio 696 vs Oppo 983; vs.:
3. Through VP50PRO: Pio 696 vs Oppo 983.

Im up for this....   

[ESi]

ditto marvin.

If your interested guys to compare the OPPO 980's performance just tell me. I might just be of a little help.

[MAtZTER]

Ok. Got it. Maganda nga raw ang video processing ng Onkyo 875. It would still be nice to compare it to the Oppo 983! 

I wonder who is going to be kind enough to lug a 61 lb Onkyo 875 to a shootout, hehe. 

We also need big black blindfolds. 

How about polka dot or floral design? Will it affect PQ? 

[pchin]

a Sony DVD upscaler but I think that few people are interested in these.

Yes, agree. I own a SONY DVD upscaler cost P15,000 about 2 years ago & it fails terribly on the HQV benchmark test

Any suggestions on other comparisons? Any suggestions on procedures?

Can we include the highly popular PS3 since many Pdvd members own it? Sony PS3 vs Pioneer 696 or 600

Mark, have you managed to review the HQV test? It evaluates a variety of video processing tasks including decoding, de-interlacing, motion correction, noise reduction, film cadence detection & detail enhancement. We can select those essential & simpler tests only.

[streetsmart]

Can we include the highly popular PS3 since many Pdvd members own it? Sony PS3 vs Pioneer 696 or 600

Mark, have you managed to review the HQV test? It evaluates a variety of video processing tasks including decoding, de-interlacing, motion correction, noise reduction, film cadence detection & detail enhancement. We can select those essential & simpler tests only.

I agree that the PS3 is a must cuz a lot of guys own it. Someone needs to bring a unit - Paul? 

Yes, I reviewed the HQV test. It actually looks pretty awesome! Why don't we test it sa HT ko so we can decide how to use it. 

[streetsmart]

ditto marvin.

If your interested guys to compare the OPPO 980's performance just tell me. I might just be of a little help.

The Oppo 980 is likewise quite interesting. If you can bring one, that will be great. 

[streetsmart]

I wonder who is going to be kind enough to lug a 61 lb Onkyo 875 to a shootout, hehe. 

If you think of it, pwede rin ang Onkyo 875 kasi we would just look at the video. No need to connect all the audio sources and power amps. Only one cable from pj and one cable from the source.

Malaking tao ka naman, Matz! Kaya mong bitbitin yun. 

[leomar]

I would also suggest that the PS3 in the blind test should be updated with the latest firmware (v2.20 ata ?) and with the settings

Frame Noise Reduction ( 3 )
Block Noise Reduction ( 3 )
Mosquito Noise Reductions ( 3 )

 

I know talo ang PS3 sa 983 sa dvd playback pero i want to know the views of the experts and gurus in PDVD din 

[pchin]

I agree that the PS3 is a must cuz a lot of guys own it. Someone needs to bring a unit - Paul? 

Hehe...sure but I will be the last resort, will give other participants the opportunity to contribute & showcase their PS3. My initial test on the PS3 is quite impressive...much better than my Sony DVD upscaler!

Yes, I reviewed the HQV test. It actually looks pretty awesome! Why don't we test it sa HT ko so we can decide how to use it.

Yes, will keep in touch with you this weekend once I'm available.

[streetsmart]

Hehe...sure but I will be the last resort, will give other participants the opportunity to contribute & showcase their PS3.

Hehe! Really kind of you, Paul. 

[streetsmart]

I would also suggest that the PS3 in the blind test should be updated with the latest firmware (v2.20 ata ?) and with the settings

Frame Noise Reduction ( 3 )
Block Noise Reduction ( 3 )
Mosquito Noise Reductions ( 3 )

 

I know talo ang PS3 sa 983 sa dvd playback pero i want to know the views of the experts and gurus in PDVD din 

If no one has any objections, we will use these settings. I'm not a PS3 owner so I can't really comment.

[ricky]

Excited ako to know the result since megatron crumpled my 676 :'( so I need a new player asap Blinfold test reviewing dvdps or cover for the players? Dapat yung magswi-switch ng players hindi kasama sa magre-rate ng result para hindi biased

[MAtZTER]

If you think of it, pwede rin ang Onkyo 875 kasi we would just look at the video. No need to connect all the audio sources and power amps. Only one cable from pj and one cable from the source.

Malaking tao ka naman, Matz! Kaya mong bitbitin yun. 

As long as there is:

LECHON BAKA! LECHON BAKA!

 

ROFL LMAO

[streetsmart]

Excited ako to know the result since megatron crumpled my 676 :'( so I need a new player asap Blinfold test reviewing dvdps or cover for the players? Dapat yung magswi-switch ng players hindi kasama sa magre-rate ng result para hindi biased

Grabe pala si Megatron! Wasak! 

Blindfold talaga kasi lalabas pangalan ng player sa screen at the beginning.

Ako at si Paul ang taga-switch ng players. Di kami kasama sa raters.

[streetsmart]

As long as there is:

LECHON BAKA! LECHON BAKA!

 

ROFL LMAO

Ang bigat naman ng kundisyon mo! 

[MAtZTER]

Ang bigat naman ng kundisyon mo! 

Mabigat din yung amp eh. 

Joke lang sir, I love joking around w/ you specially on that Lechon thing...

Pero sana meron talaga! hee hee hee  

[barrister]

Baka matagal masyado. I estimate that each comparison will take around 10 minutes. Baka mainip at maduling ang tao.

Gawin nating straight connection lahat:

REFERENCE: VP50PRO  (Pio 696 set at 480i for a pure standard signal, to VP50PRO, to display).

COMPARE WITH:

1. Straight Pio 696 vs
2. Straight Oppo 983 vs
3. Pio 696 at 480i through Denon 2808 vs.
4. Straight Tosh A35 vs.
5. Straight PS3.

At 10 mins. each, around 1 hour total!

How about burning the demo clips on 4 separate DVD-Rs, each having identical contents.  Each player will have its own disc for faster switching.

[streetsmart]

Gawin nating straight connection lahat:

REFERENCE: VP50PRO  (Pio 696 set at 480i for a pure standard signal, to VP50PRO, to display).

COMPARE WITH:

1. Straight Pio 696 vs
2. Straight Oppo 983 vs
3. Pio 696 at 480i through Denon 2808 vs.
4. Straight Tosh A35 vs.
5. Straight PS3.

At 10 mins. each, around 1 hour total!

If the VP50Pro wins all the A-B tests (which is likely), you don't really prove anything. This may not be a good idea.

The Oppo 983 is very interesting. I think people would be interested in the following (all straight):

1. Pio 696 vs Oppo 983
2. Tosh A35 vs Oppo 983
3. Pio 696 vs Tosh A35
4. PS3 vs Oppo 983
5. PS3 vs Pio 696
6. Oppo 980 vs Oppo 983
7. Oppo 983 vs Pio 696 thru VP50Pro

Before doing the test, Paul and I will determine the optimum setting for each player (contrast, brightness, color, tint, sharpness, noise reduction).

[Weng!]

wow, ang dami ng choices for comparison. dapat documented to kasi di madali mag gather ng mga gears for a shootout. i'm very interested to know, "3. Pio 696 at 480i through Denon 2808 vs." on how far this stands against the rest.

baka pagkatapos ng shootout magta-traffic na ang website ng hkflix at JAC sa mga order ng oppo983 from pinoydvd lang

[barrister]

Tama yata si sir streetsmart.

I vote for his procedure on Reply #116!

[sanmig_ph]

ps3 competitive yan ganda din ng picture quality