Author Topic: Ayaw mag Dolby/DTS (Read 5149 times)

anchit · « **on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 12:15 PM »

Hi guys

im been using my yammy 363 for quite some time now. It was onlly last night na nakita ko sa boss ko na yung kanya would automatically set to Dolby, then the speaker indicator lalabas is 5 speakers. Pero sakin i cant seem to make it work. ang sabi nung taga SnS, dapat yung pio dvd ko, gamit ko dapat sa coax nakakabit. Here;'s how it is connected now:

TV--> HDMI--> DVD pioneer--> monster component cable--> AVR

in the pix below, yung nasa right side, thats the speaker indicator, sa boss ko would show 5 speakers, pero sakin Left and Right lang, but still sound are coming out from my rear speakers, pero iba pa din yung sound nung nasa boss ko.

what do you think i need to do?

thanks!

barrister · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 12:30 PM »

Tama yung taga SnS.

TOY 01 · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 12:47 PM »

+1 or optical po

ment · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 12:49 PM »

tama ba yung pagka intindi ko na monster component cable ay RCA cable? so basically RCA cable connection ninyo from DVD player to receiver?

in that case use coax o optical cable po instead of the monster cable thingy...

hattori_hanzo · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 01:26 PM »

fiber optic cable aka optical cable po sir gamitin nyo meron din ang monster brand nyan

joepaps · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 01:56 PM »

just plug the digital audio out of your pio to your yamy's digital audio input by using optical or coaxial cable ayos na yan.

gearhead000 · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 03:55 PM »

punta ka electronic boutique... mura lang optical cable doon. meron manhattan brand saka audiopro.

anchit · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 11:02 PM »

thanks for the replies! im confused, hindi ba dapat HDMI can do it all?

gisan925 · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 07, 2009 at 11:33 PM »

piodvd>AVR>Flat Panel (all via hdmi)

jojitv · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 02:04 AM »

Quote from: anchit on Mar 07, 2009 at 11:02 PM

thanks for the replies! im confused, hindi ba dapat HDMI can do it all?

Yup, HDMI should work. But you have to connect your Pio directly to the yammy 363.

Quote from: gisan925 on Mar 07, 2009 at 11:33 PM

piodvd>AVR>Flat Panel (all via hdmi)

Ganito po dapat.

gearhead000 · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 02:27 AM »

but isn't the 363 doesn't do audio through hdmi?

jojitv · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 02:33 AM »

Quote from: gearhead000 on Mar 08, 2009 at 02:27 AM

but isn't the 363 doesn't do audio through hdmi?

Good point. That we'll have to verify.

Hehe

jojitv · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 02:44 AM »

From the 363 manual.

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"Audio signals input at HDMI jack are not output from any speaker terminals but output from the connected video monitor.
To enjoy the sound from speakers connected to this unit,
-make an analog or digital connection besides the HDMI connection (see page 16)

HDMI audio is only available with the RX-V463 model and up. So an optical or coax cable will still be needed for audio. Thanks for the correction gearhead.

anchit · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 08:06 AM »

yes thats what i heard! so ano po dapat ang connection?

joepaps · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 08:21 AM »

Quote from: anchit on Mar 08, 2009 at 08:06 AM

yes thats what i heard! so ano po dapat ang connection?

OPTICAL CABLE or COAXIAL CABLE, your choice sir

anchit · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 08:23 AM »

sorry ha, please bear with my noob questions.

right now here's how the Pio DVD is connected to the AVR:

Pio DVD to TV:

tama po ba na ang dapat kong gawin is instead na HDMI yung Pioneer dvd to TV, dapat sa Coax ko isaksak yung optical cable connected to TV? Then yung PIo dvd to AVR is HDMI?

Maraming salamat!!!!

TOY 01 · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 08:44 AM »

optical/coax dvd to optical/coax receiver.... OT pa check na lang din yun cable antenna mo bakit parang tagilid...

jojitv · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 08, 2009 at 08:55 AM »

Option 1

Pio ->[HDMI & COAX]->363->[HDMI]->TV

or

Option 2

Pio ->[COAX]->363
->[HDMI]->TV

Basically, they will work the same way. Option 1 is ideal if you have multiple HDMI devices. So you will be able to utilize the HDMI switching of the receiver. Option 2 will save you an HDMI cable. And also allow you to use the dvd player even with the 363 off. Hope this helps.

anchit · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 08:12 AM »

Quote from: jojitv on Mar 08, 2009 at 08:55 AM

Option 1

Pio ->[HDMI & COAX]->363->[HDMI]->TV

or

Option 2

Pio ->[COAX]->363
->[HDMI]->TV

Basically, they will work the same way. Option 1 is ideal if you have multiple HDMI devices. So you will be able to utilize the HDMI switching of the receiver. Option 2 will save you an HDMI cable. And also allow you to use the dvd player even with the 363 off. Hope this helps.

sir sorry ha, yung ang monster cable is an optical cable?o audio/video cable sya? sa Option 2 sir, can i replcae it with an optical cable instead of COAX?

heto ba sir ang optical: http://www.home-theater-accessories-resource.com/Images/Pictures/optical%20cable.jpg

heto rin ba sir ang itsura ng coax: http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dcoaxial%2Bcable%2Bimage%26rd%3Dr1%26meta%3Dvc%253Dph%26fp_ip%3DPH&w=165&h=158&imgurl=www.home-theater-accessories-resource.com%2FImages%2FPictures%2Frf%2520coaxial%2520cable.jpg&size=6.6kB&name=rf+coaxial+cable.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.home-theater-accessories-resource.com%2Fconnectingcomponents%2Fcoaxial-cable.html&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.home-theater-accessories-resource.com%2Fconnectingcomponents%2Fcoaxial-cable.html&p=coaxial+cable&type=jpeg&no=2&tt=76%2C839&oid=f29cc19e9a069dc6&tit=rf+coaxial+cable.jpg&sigr=12orpscva&sigi=12ifchlft&sigb=12p4bq9pb

im looking at option 2 sir, Pioneer --> Coax or Optical to AVR---> then AVR ---> HDMI---TV. tama sir?

jojitv · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 08:46 AM »

Quote from: anchit on Mar 09, 2009 at 08:12 AM

sir sorry ha, yung ang monster cable is an optical cable?o audio/video cable sya? sa Option 2 sir, can i replcae it with an optical cable instead of COAX?

Yes sir, pwede optical cable na lang gamitin instead of coax.

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heto ba sir ang optical: http://www.home-theater-accessories-resource.com/Images/Pictures/optical%20cable.jpg

Yup, that's an optical cable.

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heto rin ba sir ang itsura ng coax: http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dcoaxial%2Bcable%2Bimage%26rd%3Dr1%26meta%3Dvc%253Dph%26fp_ip%3DPH&w=165&h=158&imgurl=www.home-theater-accessories-resource.com%2FImages%2FPictures%2Frf%2520coaxial%2520cable.jpg&size=6.6kB&name=rf+coaxial+cable.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.home-theater-accessories-resource.com%2Fconnectingcomponents%2Fcoaxial-cable.html&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.home-theater-accessories-resource.com%2Fconnectingcomponents%2Fcoaxial-cable.html&p=coaxial+cable&type=jpeg&no=2&tt=76%2C839&oid=f29cc19e9a069dc6&tit=rf+coaxial+cable.jpg&sigr=12orpscva&sigi=12ifchlft&sigb=12p4bq9pb

Yung pic po sa may baba ang coax na sinasabi namin. Yung Digital coaxial cable. Yung may rca connector.

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im looking at option 2 sir, Pioneer --> Coax or Optical to AVR---> then AVR ---> HDMI---TV. tama sir?

No sir. Coax or optical only carries audio. While HDMI can pass carry both signals, unfortunately, the yammy 363 does not support audio thru HDMI. So you have to connect both optical or coaxial, along with the hdmi cable in order to get both video and audio.

So here's the suggested connection.

Pio ->[COAX]->363
Pio ->[HDMI]->TV

ment · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 09:44 AM »

bunutin mo po yung monster RCA cables both sa AVr and dvd player .... cannot use this as multichannel so keep it nalang for some other use.

buy optical cable .....

connect it sa AVR and player using the optical port

para umpisa na enjoy sa multichannel

if di ka buy optical cable. no multichannel output talaga ....

am not familiar with the 363 pero supposedly nga HDMI should be the only cable connection you need

please double check manual but since our guru said it doesn't support audio, then it doesnt ....

hopefully the yammy supports upscaling though

that would be a good compromise. But it would mean you should buy another HDMI cable ...

wag mu na pansinin last paragraph ehehe baka lalo ka lang malito .... just follow sir jojitv's recommendation and everything will work fine

anchit · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 11:28 AM »

nakabili nako ng Optical cable! sa Electronic Boutique, ang mahal ah! 545pesos.

kasi yung cheaper na 299pesos, wala daw warranty.

tama po ba tong nabili ko?:

at heto na ang mangyayari:

Pioneer DVD to TV is connected via HDMI for Video purposes

Pioneer DVD to Yamaha 363 AVR is thru Optical/Coax for Multichannel Audio

Ang question ko lang mga sir, though the AVR reflects only the L & R speaker indicator, bakit may mga sound din naman na lumalabas sa surrounds ko na as if naka multichannel sya? ang issue ko lang mahina at halos di ko na sya napapansin p[wera na lang kung itatapat mo yung tenga mo or papansinin mo talga.

Cant wait to go home and try this out.

I hoep this works! Marming salamat mga sirs!

gearhead000 · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 11:46 AM »

Quote from: anchit on Mar 09, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Ang question ko lang mga sir, though the AVR reflects only the L & R speaker indicator, bakit may mga sound din naman na lumalabas sa surrounds ko na as if naka multichannel sya? ang issue ko lang mahina at halos di ko na sya napapansin p[wera na lang kung itatapat mo yung tenga mo or papansinin mo talga.

i'm sure it was reverting either to dolby prologic or one of the yammy multi-channel implementations.

congrats on your new purchase. you'll now enjoy full discrete 5.1-multichannel surround sound.

anchit · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 12:09 PM »

thanks bro! excited na nga ako makauwi ng bahay. sana maayos ko hehe.

barrister · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 04:57 PM »

Quote from: anchit on Mar 09, 2009 at 11:28 AM

nakabili nako ng Optical cable! sa Electronic Boutique, ang mahal ah! 545pesos. kasi yung cheaper na 299pesos, wala daw warranty.

tama po ba tong nabili ko?:

Ayos ang nabili mo, sir. Good quality, fair price.

Quote from: anchit on Mar 09, 2009 at 11:28 AM

at heto na ang mangyayari:

Pioneer DVD to TV is connected via HDMI for Video purposes

Pioneer DVD to Yamaha 363 AVR is thru Optical/Coax for Multichannel Audio

Iyan na nga yung sinabi ng SnS. Hindi lang kayo nagkaintindihan...

Quote from: anchit on Mar 09, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Ang question ko lang mga sir, though the AVR reflects only the L & R speaker indicator, bakit may mga sound din naman na lumalabas sa surrounds ko na as if naka multichannel sya? ang issue ko lang mahina at halos di ko na sya napapansin p[wera na lang kung itatapat mo yung tenga mo or papansinin mo talga.

Dolby Pro Logic yan sir.

Quote from: anchit on Mar 09, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Cant wait to go home and try this out.

I hoep this works! Marming salamat mga sirs!

Sigurado na yan sir.

Pasalamat ka kay boss. Kung hindi dahil sa set-up niya, hindi mo sana napansin ang deperensiya ng set-up mo...

pooch · « **Reply #25 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 05:04 PM »

mahal yung nabili mong optical pero yan yung magandang brand

odyopayl · « **Reply #26 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 05:18 PM »

Actually you can also use Coax for Digital Audio Signal all you have to do is set your AVR to received digiatl signa via coax.

Your case is using HDMI output of your DVD player going to your TV
and the audio signal from Your player to your AVR is digital coax or tosslink

-Make sure you set-up your AVR input to digital IN instead of HDMI
- Set-up your Player to "output Digital" out too (bitstream)

anchit · « **Reply #27 on:** Mar 09, 2009 at 06:41 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Mar 09, 2009 at 04:57 PM

Ayos ang nabili mo, sir. Good quality, fair price.

Iyan na nga yung sinabi ng SnS. Hindi lang kayo nagkaintindihan...

Dolby Pro Logic yan sir.

Sigurado na yan sir.

Pasalamat ka kay boss. Kung hindi dahil sa set-up niya, hindi mo sana napansin ang deperensiya ng set-up mo...

haha oo nga

salamat din sayo sir! i can still remember, ikaw yung unang ni-PM ko about sound set up, binigyan mo pa nga ako ng pix ng set up mo, dun angsimula ang inspiration.

anchit · « **Reply #28 on:** Mar 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM »

have successfully connected it! all i can say i Im impressed! I kept on telling my freinds before " bitin ako sa 363", mali lang pala setting ko

before naririnig ko naman na may surround sound, pero ngayon nairirnig ko na talga yung separation ng each channel. im happy, very happy.

thanks guys!!!!!!

pooch · « **Reply #29 on:** Mar 10, 2009 at 11:16 AM »

congrats